November 4, 2024 • 6 mins
Melbourne Cup day is almost here - and all eyes will be on Flemington Race course tommorow.
Thad Taylor from the TAB joined Piney to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Duncy Wildergrave
from News Talk ZB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Before the Melbourne Cup tomorrow, the race that stops two nations,
the one hundred and sixty fourth running of the Melbourne
cupps tomorrow around five o'clock New Zealand time at Flemington.
Sat Taylor with us from the TAB. Fag great to
jet you looking for some advice here, mate, But first
of all, how big a day is this for you?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
How big a day for the TAB? Is this your
biggest day of the year.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah? Absolutely, it is the biggest day of the year
for the TAB, There's no doubt about that. Look. Cup
Day down in christ Church coming up and around a
week's time will be the second biggest day the Trotting
Cup they're held at Addington, But certainly the Melbourne Cup
is the biggest day for the New Zealand TAB. Still look.
Just to give you some idea, you know, the total
turnover on the day for just racing will be up
(00:57):
close to thirty million dollars. The sales on the Melbourne
Cup alone will be hovering between thirteen and fourteen million,
and in the busiest time before the Melbourne Cup tomorrow
afternoon we'll be processing around close to seven thousand bits
a minute for the Melbourne Cup. So speaking of busy
to be all hands to the pump come Melbourne Cup time.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Incredible, all right. No New Zealand trained horses last year,
three this year. Who are they and what are their chances?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, that's the first great thing that we had got
some great Kiwi interest in the race because there has
been a little bit scant in terms of New Zealand
trained horses in the Melbourne Cup in the last few years,
just for the way the Melbourne Cup has gone sort
of heading towards the European Stars. But we do have
three runners in the race, was unfortunately going to be
four before Maharajan failed a veterinary scan prior to the
(01:45):
race of Maharajan as unfortunately not going to be there.
But we do have three runners. I'd say the best
of them would be Sharp and Smart. It's a horse
trained by Graham Rogers Graham and Debbie Rogerson. He ran
a very good third in the Mooney Valley Gold Cup
last time out, getting home strongly, which is what you
want to see if they're stepping up to the two
miles of a Melbourne Cup and book. He won our Derby,
(02:05):
he placed it a v I see Derby's coming back
to formers Sharp and Smart. Look he's still sixty to one.
I'm not going to suggest he's a leading chants, but
he is our best chance will be at a long shot.
Chance is Sharp and Smart. The other two runners their Positivity,
trained by Andrew Foresman. Look, she's been very good. The
last start was a little bit disappointing, and that then
(02:25):
she's out there at a one hundred to one is Positivity,
but her form leading if you can forgive her last
start failure form prival, that had been very good. So
I few willing to entertain the hundred and ones around Positivity.
The other horse's a horse called trust In You. He's
a really a very solid galloper. He never puts in
a bad race where he's out of his depth from
(02:48):
a class perspective. He's trained by Bruce Wallace and Grant Cooksley.
But he's been running some very good races in Sydney
and some strong races coming out of fourth and a
cint ledger up there in Sydney, and look he gets
his chance. It's great to have a runner in the
Melbourne Cup. Again, I'm probably padding because they are one
hundred to one in this market. Would be surprised to
see it here we win the Melbourne Cup. But it
is great to have three Kiwi runners and as I say,
(03:10):
the best of those three will be sharp and smart.
I see him sitting in around sixty to one. He's
number six in the.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Book tomorrow, all right, leck zooman. Then on the favorites,
the race favorites. Who did the punters like? Who do
you like?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah? Look, I mean Buckeroo's been sort of setting the
benchmark this so far this season. It was a very
good second in the Melbourne in the core Field Cup
last so much to the traditional leader to a Melbourne Cup.
But he then he came out and drew Barrier twenty
one of twenty four, which has probably just indented his chance.
As no surprise where he's going to get to in
the run he will get back a long way and
(03:42):
whether he can make a big run. Bukarub trained by
former key we say, former key we keiw Chris Waller
who trains now in Sydney, the great trainer Chris Wallace.
So Buckaroo has been favorite for a long time, but
just been taken over just in the last sort of
twenty four hours by all's called vau Barn, who brings
some brilliant European form over came over last year and
(04:03):
he was very very well backed. I think he almost
started favorite in the race last year, just didn't do
it for whatever reason. But his trainer Willy Mullens is
an absolute genius, thinks he's got vau Barn better this
time and look chased over horse champion called kitp Brios
last time out and up there at the curR. And
I think Willie Mullens thinks he think has vau Barn
ready to go at his second crack in a Melbourne Cup.
(04:25):
But the Europeans do sort of hold the key here.
The likes of one smooth operator for Brian Allison, Craig
Williams the Great Ossi jockey Board, he won the Geelong
Cup and the lead up to this he'll be your
player at eight dollars fifty, as were the likes of
Sea King, who won the Bendigo Cup only about seven
or seven or so days ago into this at thirteen dollars,
(04:45):
So it's not surprised in the Europeans that to hold
the hand here, you would say with the likes of
vau barn one smooth operator and seeking of the Ossie
changers of Dozy trained by James James Cummings and the
grandson of the great Bart Commings gave Dozho run on
the Saturday just a couple of days ago before the
(05:06):
mal Cup, just like his grandfather would have and does.
He's been very well backed in the race. And then
a horse called Okeita Sushi trained by Kieren Maher won
the Mooney Valley Gold Cup last time we opened them
up around twenty three dollars. He's worked his way into
fourteen dollars. But if a move for a horse called
Okeita Sushi trained by Karen Marr.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
All right, some good horses to look at. There a
lot of people that only bet once a year and
it's on Melbourne Cup Day. It's there once a year.
Flutter if there are first time punters listening, and I
know there will be any advice for them.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, I mean the great thing about the Melbourne cupp
is you're in with a charge. You r all them with
a chance. So look, the race has changed so much
over the last twenty five years Jason. I mean we
would have recognized a lot of the horses, you know,
twenty five years ago they would have been old Australian
and the Kiwi stayers, but you sort of headed that
European way and they are generally the stronger staying horses.
(06:00):
So if I could give you one piece of advice
to entertain those European developers, I think that they will
be so one of them will be saluting the judge,
which one wouldn't be one hundred percent sure, but the
European staying form is very very strong, So look for
some of those European horses will be mined by certainly
put them in new Quanella entro effectors, because they've got
the recipe now to be competitive a Melbourne Cup and
(06:21):
they have been for a fair few years now.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Great advice from yours always. Thanks for joining us on
Melbourne Cup Eve, Sad all the best for a great day.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Tomorrow, exciting Jason, Thanks for having me and good luck
to everyone out there tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, good luck to you too, mate. Thanks indeed, Sair
Taylor there from the tab one hundred and sixty fourth
running of the Melbourne Cup tomorrow around five o'clock New
Zealand time, the biggest race day on that side of
the Tasman and on the side of the Tasman too.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
For more from sports Talk, listen live to News Talks
it'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
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You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Duncy Wildergrave
from News Talk ZB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Before the Melbourne Cup tomorrow, the race that stops two nations,
the one hundred and sixty fourth running of the Melbourne
cupps tomorrow around five o'clock New Zealand time at Flemington.
Sat Taylor with us from the TAB. Fag great to
jet you looking for some advice here, mate, But first
of all, how big a day is this for you?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
How big a day for the TAB? Is this your
biggest day of the year.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah? Absolutely, it is the biggest day of the year
for the TAB, There's no doubt about that. Look. Cup
Day down in christ Church coming up and around a
week's time will be the second biggest day the Trotting
Cup they're held at Addington, But certainly the Melbourne Cup
is the biggest day for the New Zealand TAB. Still look.
Just to give you some idea, you know, the total
turnover on the day for just racing will be up
(00:57):
close to thirty million dollars. The sales on the Melbourne
Cup alone will be hovering between thirteen and fourteen million,
and in the busiest time before the Melbourne Cup tomorrow
afternoon we'll be processing around close to seven thousand bits
a minute for the Melbourne Cup. So speaking of busy
to be all hands to the pump come Melbourne Cup time.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Incredible, all right. No New Zealand trained horses last year,
three this year. Who are they and what are their chances?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, that's the first great thing that we had got
some great Kiwi interest in the race because there has
been a little bit scant in terms of New Zealand
trained horses in the Melbourne Cup in the last few years,
just for the way the Melbourne Cup has gone sort
of heading towards the European Stars. But we do have
three runners in the race, was unfortunately going to be
four before Maharajan failed a veterinary scan prior to the
(01:45):
race of Maharajan as unfortunately not going to be there.
But we do have three runners. I'd say the best
of them would be Sharp and Smart. It's a horse
trained by Graham Rogers Graham and Debbie Rogerson. He ran
a very good third in the Mooney Valley Gold Cup
last time out, getting home strongly, which is what you
want to see if they're stepping up to the two
miles of a Melbourne Cup and book. He won our Derby,
(02:05):
he placed it a v I see Derby's coming back
to formers Sharp and Smart. Look he's still sixty to one.
I'm not going to suggest he's a leading chants, but
he is our best chance will be at a long shot.
Chance is Sharp and Smart. The other two runners their Positivity,
trained by Andrew Foresman. Look, she's been very good. The
last start was a little bit disappointing, and that then
(02:25):
she's out there at a one hundred to one is Positivity,
but her form leading if you can forgive her last
start failure form prival, that had been very good. So
I few willing to entertain the hundred and ones around Positivity.
The other horse's a horse called trust In You. He's
a really a very solid galloper. He never puts in
a bad race where he's out of his depth from
(02:48):
a class perspective. He's trained by Bruce Wallace and Grant Cooksley.
But he's been running some very good races in Sydney
and some strong races coming out of fourth and a
cint ledger up there in Sydney, and look he gets
his chance. It's great to have a runner in the
Melbourne Cup. Again, I'm probably padding because they are one
hundred to one in this market. Would be surprised to
see it here we win the Melbourne Cup. But it
is great to have three Kiwi runners and as I say,
(03:10):
the best of those three will be sharp and smart.
I see him sitting in around sixty to one. He's
number six in the.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Book tomorrow, all right, leck zooman. Then on the favorites,
the race favorites. Who did the punters like? Who do
you like?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah? Look, I mean Buckeroo's been sort of setting the
benchmark this so far this season. It was a very
good second in the Melbourne in the core Field Cup
last so much to the traditional leader to a Melbourne Cup.
But he then he came out and drew Barrier twenty
one of twenty four, which has probably just indented his chance.
As no surprise where he's going to get to in
the run he will get back a long way and
(03:42):
whether he can make a big run. Bukarub trained by
former key we say, former key we keiw Chris Waller
who trains now in Sydney, the great trainer Chris Wallace.
So Buckaroo has been favorite for a long time, but
just been taken over just in the last sort of
twenty four hours by all's called vau Barn, who brings
some brilliant European form over came over last year and
(04:03):
he was very very well backed. I think he almost
started favorite in the race last year, just didn't do
it for whatever reason. But his trainer Willy Mullens is
an absolute genius, thinks he's got vau Barn better this
time and look chased over horse champion called kitp Brios
last time out and up there at the curR. And
I think Willie Mullens thinks he think has vau Barn
ready to go at his second crack in a Melbourne Cup.
(04:25):
But the Europeans do sort of hold the key here.
The likes of one smooth operator for Brian Allison, Craig
Williams the Great Ossi jockey Board, he won the Geelong
Cup and the lead up to this he'll be your
player at eight dollars fifty, as were the likes of
Sea King, who won the Bendigo Cup only about seven
or seven or so days ago into this at thirteen dollars,
(04:45):
So it's not surprised in the Europeans that to hold
the hand here, you would say with the likes of
vau barn one smooth operator and seeking of the Ossie
changers of Dozy trained by James James Cummings and the
grandson of the great Bart Commings gave Dozho run on
the Saturday just a couple of days ago before the
(05:06):
mal Cup, just like his grandfather would have and does.
He's been very well backed in the race. And then
a horse called Okeita Sushi trained by Kieren Maher won
the Mooney Valley Gold Cup last time we opened them
up around twenty three dollars. He's worked his way into
fourteen dollars. But if a move for a horse called
Okeita Sushi trained by Karen Marr.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
All right, some good horses to look at. There a
lot of people that only bet once a year and
it's on Melbourne Cup Day. It's there once a year.
Flutter if there are first time punters listening, and I
know there will be any advice for them.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, I mean the great thing about the Melbourne cupp
is you're in with a charge. You r all them with
a chance. So look, the race has changed so much
over the last twenty five years Jason. I mean we
would have recognized a lot of the horses, you know,
twenty five years ago they would have been old Australian
and the Kiwi stayers, but you sort of headed that
European way and they are generally the stronger staying horses.
(06:00):
So if I could give you one piece of advice
to entertain those European developers, I think that they will
be so one of them will be saluting the judge,
which one wouldn't be one hundred percent sure, but the
European staying form is very very strong, So look for
some of those European horses will be mined by certainly
put them in new Quanella entro effectors, because they've got
the recipe now to be competitive a Melbourne Cup and
(06:21):
they have been for a fair few years now.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Great advice from yours always. Thanks for joining us on
Melbourne Cup Eve, Sad all the best for a great day.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Tomorrow, exciting Jason, Thanks for having me and good luck
to everyone out there tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, good luck to you too, mate. Thanks indeed, Sair
Taylor there from the tab one hundred and sixty fourth
running of the Melbourne Cup tomorrow around five o'clock New
Zealand time, the biggest race day on that side of
the Tasman and on the side of the Tasman too.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
For more from sports Talk, listen live to News Talks
it'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio
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