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five run victory by the black Caps to level their
T twenty cricketeries one all against Sri Lanka and Dan Buller,
defending the third lowest total by a Test playing nation
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in a full T twenty international. They only made one
hundred and eight, but then bolt Sri Lanka out for
one hundred and three. No problem. Glenn Phillip's a massive
part of that is with us out of Lanka very shortly.
Incredible game of rugby at Twickenham yesterday morning, Australia forty two,
England thirty seven, the Wallaby's winning try coming well after
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Mentioned the black Caps have defended the third lowest total
by a Test playing nation in a full T twenty
cricket international to level their series won all against Sri Lanka.
They've won the second and final match in dan Buller
by five runs, making one hundred and eight and then
bowling Sri Lanka out in the final over for one
hundred and three. Helped earlier on in the innings by
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this from Lockey Ferguson.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Waste season.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Oh hand on a minute, it's a little tickle ah
speak Giff.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
This is the craziest hat tricks I've seen in recent years.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Lockie Ferguson taking a hat trick. He had three for
seven from two overs before injury forced him off. Glenn
Phillips took three wickets in four balls in the final
over of the innings to secure the win. He joins
us now out of Sri Lanka. Glenn, Let's take it
back to the innings break. What was the feeling at
the break with just one hundred and eight on the
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board to defend.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Obviously there was a little bit daunting.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
We obviously went out there and tried to fire some
shots and unfortunately it didn't.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
It didn't pay off.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
And the nature of the subcontinent pictures means that you
can be behind it all quite quickly.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
But Youngie when he was.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Out there, actually thought it was probably a one fifty
par wicket. And I mean a few of us were
probably a little bit bewildered, but the guys in some
serious forms so I think for the rest of us
in anything around there, one and twenty mark would have
been I think probably par for as normal mere mortals.
So the fact that we were the fact that we
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scrapped to something at least defendable that gave us a chance,
was still very pleasing. You know, boys chipping in from
all all areas, all the way down to number ten
and eleven.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
So obviously not an ideal score.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
But yeah, you with her, with us scrapping nature, we
definitely thought we had a chance on a on a
wicket that was very tricky.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So at what point during Sri Lanka's innings did you
did you feel like you were in the hunt? Was
it when Luckie got his hat trick?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I think it was actually when.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
When we saw sat and absolutely rag that first ball
of the innings, understanding that the pitch was still spinning
just as much as it was for our inings, and
I think that gave us probably a real belief that
potentially that was enough when we managed to keep them
to twenty one in the power play with only one boundary,
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I think we definitely had the belief that we could
defend it from a dot balls perspective if we managed
to keep taking wickets. But then obviously when Lockie ran
through three guys in a row, that definitely helps the case.
And the belief system was real, There was really there.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
But.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Until we managed to tie down Nasanka, it was always,
you know, in the balance, and a boundary here and
a couple of runs there really meant the difference between
the game, you know, for the likes of Beast on
the boundary with a diving save to save six, you know,
and then went in by five that that simply could
have been the difference whole game. So small margins like
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that really really mattered, and the boys all had a
lot of belief the whole way through.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
So take us into the last few. I was you
bowled the seventeenth. Was was the first over year bowled
in the innings. Michael Bracewell had the eighteenth. Then there
was just you and Zach Folks left to bowl the
last two. How did it get decided that you would
bowl the last over?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
I think it comes down to the tactics of if
I had gone the nineteenth, then it really depends on
how well I bowled to determine whether Zach had enough
runs to play with and with.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
The ball being more conducive to spin.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
I think it was one of those situations where Zack's
bowled a lot more death overs than me. He's probably
the more experienced bowler, So it came down to what
I think the Probably the nineteenth is the harder over
to bowl, it's probably the more important over, and you've
got to give it to the guy who it's his
job to be able to do that, and he did
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it incredibly well.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Again, so then you come to the twentieth, they need eight,
they're seven down, they're opener Nasanka. As you mentioned still
there on fifty odd, did it feel like you'd need
to get wickets in that last over to win the
game rather than just try and restrict them.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Obviously wickets is ideal, but I think the nature of
a spinning track does mean that as long as they're
not necessarily getting twos, there is always a chance to
be able to defend it.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
It happens quite a lot in India.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
It happens quite a lot in the Caribbean as well,
where spinner's bowl the last over and if you get
a couple to spin and beat the bat and there's
a few dot balls, and it obviously builds a lot
of pressure, but the plans were very simple to both
different em batsmen, and obviously you do need a little
bit of luck to go your way as well. The
fact that Sri Lanka extended the boundaries out to this
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series definitely helps a lot as well.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
You know.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Where misheads can't just fly over the rope, so that
definitely helped the case. And as I said, a little
bit of luck does go a long way. But I
wasn't necessarily going for wickeds per se. It just just
happened to be that way.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Well, you've got a sunk with the second ball then,
Buttalana straight away, did you think you were going to
get a hatrick as well?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
We're definitely were't going to change the field for it,
that's for sure. Yeah, when a guy standing there, when
you're on a hat trick and he's got a baseball
start for his bat pretty much over his head, yeah,
I feel like it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Could literally go anywhere.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
So actually, I feel like there was probably more of
a chance for me to get a hat trick there
than any of the two chances that have had Test cricket.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
So we nearly got it. He nearly hit it down
to down a chap.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
You just didn't quite hit it well enough, which at
the end of the day I think I'm quite grateful
for because the way the way it all ended was
the way it should have been.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Just we're just happy days absolutely.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
So you got the win, low scoring series, right, one
hundred and thirty five and one forty for six in
the first one, one eight and one o three in
this one. What was that mainly the wicket, do you think?
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Yeah, the wicket was definitely tough, but I think it's
also a combination of a lot of the boys not
having faced spin of that coliber before on a turning wicket,
you know, with the likes of Hasaranga where he's got
an incredibly hard gurglely to pick a lot of boys
wouldn't have faced them before, and then it's turning big
both ways. That definitely adds to a little bit of
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a struggle.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
And then the life of pic Shano as well, who
sends down absolute rockets that rag.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
So for the boys, it's definitely experiences that they'll be
able to grow and learn from going into the future.
But you know, as all home teams do, you try
and make a pitch's conducer to your skill set in
you winning, but obviously if you do produce a track
that's going to be a little bit of a grind
and I guess a bit of a fifty to fifty
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sort of head out. So then it does bring both
teams into it, especially when we had four four spinners
of our own, and obviously guys at bowl incredibly good
slow balls as well, so we always thought that we
were in it. But yeah, triguy kind of pitch and
I think obviously all that is like runs, but I
think when it comes time for the bowlers to step up,
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you know they're always ready, and you know, we play
on such flat pitches so often that when the bowl
is actually get a chance and have a sniffs, it's
actually really enjoyable to see things go the other way around.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Now, I know you've had to move on pretty quickly,
but have you still got a bit of a rosy
glow after the Test series sweep in India?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Absolutely, I think the confidence instilled from that series more
than anything else. Obviously, it was really cool to make
history and all that sort of stuff, and we definitely
did our fair show of celebrating for that sort of scenario.
But I think coming forward, we know that we can
compete in conditions that are foreign to us, and it
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was more just instilled in a bit of a belief
system that you know, we're not the only ones that
struggle in subcontinent pitches.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
The subcontinent batters also struggle as well. So if we.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Can do our things well and keep firing our shots
and have that sort of intent about how we go
about our business and also the way that we do
things in the field in terms of being able to
get around each other and make sure that from the
outside it always looks like we're on top even if
we're not. Those little things all go a long way
into at least giving yourself a fighting chance in these conditions.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And I know you've got three one days now before
you come home, but how much are you looking forward
to the three Test matches against England back here before Christmas?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, that's going to be a whole nother challenge of
its own.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Obviously, England with their current approach to Test cricket is
really formidable, but it also definitely brings us into the
game as it's shown over the year as well.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
You know, they win a lot, but they also lose
a lot.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
So with the opportunity potentially to make a World Test
Championship final again. You know, the boys are really excited,
We're really pumped. But we're just going to go out
there and take it one ball at a time, one
game at a time, and obviously just keep trying to
scrap and do our best the way that we always do.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
And keep getting around each other.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
And you know, if we keep doing our simple things
well and we match up with their players on each
given day, then you know we definitely have a side
that can easily beat them three nil as well. So we,
as I said, we need to take it one game
of time, stick to our process and just enjoy the
moment for what it is.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, well it seems to be working. Congrats on this one, Glenn,
thanks so much for taking the time for a chat mate.
Thank you, Jesson, thanks mate, cheers. That's glem Phillips out
of Shri Lanka. So one all series stale, mate, I
guess you call it a one all series draw. Next
up is three one day Internationals before they come home.
I get the feeling someone like Glen Phillips just wants
to get home and get ready for these the Test
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series to come. But they've got these three one days.
The first of them is Wednesday night our time from ten,
then Sunday night at ten, Tuesday night at ten and
then they can all hop on a plane get home.
And the first Test, which is what we're all I
think really looking forward to, is on November the twenty eighth,
or from November twenty eighth at Hagley Oval and christ Church. Yeah,
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this for a T twenty series. There were no runs
in this series across the two matches. The most runs
by in New Zealander was Will Young's forty nine. Now
that's total across the two innings, so across the two
innings he got forty nine runs. Next best, I think
was Mitchell Santner who got thirty five across the two
and Zach Folks got thirty three and twenty seven and
out of those were in the first one. So not
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a particularly fruitful series for our batters bowling wise, though
much better a guy like Glen Phillipsy took three this morning,
four for eighteen across the two games. Zach Folks got
four wickets, Michael Bracewell three couple for Mitchell Santner, three
for Locky Ferguson all in that one hat trick spell
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this morning. So yeah, it's a funny little series sort
of wedged in between what was an historic Test Series
win in India and back home for as I said before,
a really mouth watering upcoming series of Test matches against England.
I know a lot of the guys that come home,
but for guys like Glenn Phillips, he's probably the main one.
Will Young, the guys who may may be involved back
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here in the Test series, potentially Mitchell Santona, potentially Michael
brace Will, but mainly really Phillips and Young, you'd think
they'd probably just want to get home because I'm not
going to have a heck a lot of time once
they get home to get ready for Test matches. Anyway,
that can all wait. I'm sure seven nineteen is the
time we're going to take a break when we come back.
When I flick across to rugby, I think the most
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exciting game of rugby over the weekend wasn't the one
we expected it to be. It was the game between
Australia and England at Twickenham. Where as I said on
the show yesterday, it looked like defending was optional. There
were only thirty six points total in the All Blacks
Island Test match, and both teams in this game scored
that and more forty two thirty seven. The Wallabies won it.
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How was it received on the other side of the Tasman,
I would imagine with great joy. We'll find out when
our old mate Brett McKay pops him for a chat
right after this.
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Remarkable scenes, remarkable at Twickenham yesterday morning.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Nick, it's out for Jorgensen, Max Jorvison, Max Joginson.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
No they didn't.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Oh my goodness me.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Oh, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
It's one of the greatest moments in Wallaby's history and
it belongs to Jorginson.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
They have stunned eng them a try well after the
hooter from Max Jorgensen has given the Wallabies a forty
two thirty seven when over England. It's Australia's first when
at Twickenham since the twenty fifteen Rugby World Cup. Let's
bring in one of our favorite Australians rugby broadcast journalist,
columnist and co host of the eight nine Combo Rugby
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podcast Brett McKay Brett, I know you've watched a lot
of rugby, You've watched a lot lot of Wallaby's rugby.
Where does this game rate among the ones you've seen?
Speaker 7 (15:12):
Oh, it's I'm literally in the middle of writing writing
my conference for Rugby Pass as we speak, Piney, and
I've just written the paragraph that I can't think of
it readily. Think of anything in the last four or
five seasons that were top it, and you could probably
push it back to that, but that's about as far
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as the memory goes these days. I must have been.
So it was. It was just phenomenal, It really was,
And it was phenomenal for so many reasons, but most
of all it was the fact that we went through
all the emotions that we did morrow ToJ scores that
try in the minute, and you know, I know I
wasn't the only well fan at four o'clock in the
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morning thinking oh God, not again. And then for them
to pull out that play, you know, three minutes after
the after the bell, you know, wasn't it wasn't from
it. It wasn't from a line out drive. It wasn't it
wasn't a scrum set play. They'd handled for four or
five or six phases or whatever it was, and then
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they just tried something out on the edge and they
pulled it off and they scored one of the great
Wallaby tries, it has to be said. And it was
just a phenomenal performance across the board that has made
burning an Australian rugby fan a pretty enjoyable experience in
the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Certainly, absolutely well, I want to talk about it in
a greater context as far as the years concern both
what we've had and what is to come. But I
want to ask you about a couple of players, a
lot of a lot of hype around, a lot of
chat around about Joseph Sali and his Wallaby's debut. How
did you assass his contribution?
Speaker 7 (16:52):
Yeah, he was. He was fantastic, There's no there's no
doubting about that. He's I mean, I've seen him why
and I know he was only won the official Man
of the match, but I would suggest there was probably
four or five at least other Wallabies who are easily
in front of him, And that's not to downplay that
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he had a fantastic game, but more to make the
point that it was a reel across the board performance
from the Wallabies, and the fact that it was at
least four or five and it might ever be six
or seven or eight sort of speaks to how widely
this performance was shared across the board. But he was
great that I made the point of upon the podcast
in our post mortum yesterday that the best compliment that
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I can give him, whilst also trying to you know,
drill down the hype a little bit, is just to
say that he looks like a rugby player. He doesn't
look like it didn't look like that was his first
game rugby in four years or whatever it was. He
just looks like a rugby player. And his hands are good,
his instincts are good. You know, he's still there's plenty
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of things for him to work on his game, but
he you know, even just little things where he placed
the ball on the ruck and you know how he
rolled away from tackles and his rugby instincts are still
really really strong. And that's really exciting, mate, because you
know they're going in last week the expectation was, you know,
it looks like he's going to play. Do you starting
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on the wing? Do you start him on the bench.
The easy thing to do would have been to start
him on the bench and bring him in, But he
certainly impressed plenty at the camps leading into it. They've
thrown him to the deep end and he's just delivered,
and so it's actually really exciting to think what he
could do from here, and then more so to think
about what he could actually do in a war tars
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jumper in Super Rugby next year.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, we're looking forward to seeing that as well. You
mentioned that there are other players who were on a
par in terms of their performance. Was one of those,
loose head prop Angus Bell?
Speaker 7 (18:53):
Oh? Yeah, absolutely absolutely he was. I could flip a
coin between he and Rob Valentine as my picks. His
stats sheet is just incredible, Angus Bell. Nine defenders beaten
and I think I think I've heard or read this
morning that that's the most from a Wallaby player in
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a presume it's in the UK or maybe even Sat
twiggt maybe it's overall. I can't quite remember the contest,
but it was context. It was the most of it
a Wallaby players since Marika Coro Betsy beat eleven in
a game in twenty nineteen. Wow, and so you're not
nine defenders beaten from a loose head proper. He played
seventy and a half minutes, which is just it's absolutely
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phenomenal and it was a well earned rest when he
came off. What he did, but he was he carrying
was great, you know, showed a bit of footwork in contact,
showed some deft hands at times. He's just his game
has come on leaps and bound. He was always going
to be a really good footballer, but he's he's I
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think he's one of the best Louise Heads getting around
right at this point in time. And he's been getting
better all year and you know, I think that was
probably his his best performance in a Test match, which
is which is saying something.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
So teats to come in the next three weekends against Wales,
Scotland and Ireland. How much more optimistic do you feel
about those Test matches given what happened at Twickenham.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Yeah, And it's a really good question and it's a
really dangerous one from an Australian fan because it's because
because experience says or you know what could go wrong
here now and you can't help but think about that
because we've seen this, This happens so many times, and
particularly on northern tours. I think the expectation going into
this tour was they win two of those two of
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the four tests. You know, that's that's going to be
a that's that's probably fairly fairly fair for where this
team is. You know, should beat Wales Scotland is the
danger game England and Ireland at either end, he is
going to be too big tests. You're okay to England
at Twickenham now and straight away you're thinking differently about
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Wales this weekend and Scotland next weekend because the expectation
now will be should beat Wales pretty well. They've gone
down to Fiji, you know, just this morning our time,
so you know you'd think that they should do the
job there pretty well. And then Scotland this morning. You know,
they looked in the end I think pretty well beaten
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by South Africa, which is not a slot on Scotland
necessarily because plenty of teams have been well beaten by
South Africa this year, Australia included. But you know, I
think it was also the way that they were beaten
that sort of suggests that, you know, it's actually probably
a good matchup, and it was. It was always a
dangerous game, but I think it's it's certainly very very
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winnable for the Wallabies now and again having beaten England
a twicken them, the expectation I think now will be
that they definitely.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Can after just the one win from six and the
Rugby Championship. How much pressy do you think was building
on Joe Schmidt.
Speaker 7 (22:01):
I don't know that pressure was building, but I think
the questions were being asked, perhaps more pointedly. And I
say that in the realm of you know, his whole
theme since he took the job on earlier this year
has been, you know what, we need to see incremental
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improvements each week, and we have been seeing that, and
we did see that through the Rugby Championship, but certainly
by the end of it when they did go one
from six, I think the questions were being asked, and
I think I even wrote as much at some point
was that yes, there were incremental improvements, but the improvements
made one week weren't necessarily on top of the improvements
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from last week. They were often at the expense of
the improvements from last week, so they might have gone
up in one area but down in other areas, and
so you know, they just they were the improvements were there,
but as I say, they weren't compounding. They didn't sort
of feel like they're necessarily taking bigger steps forward than
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you than we might have hoped. And that's what makes
the Wales Test this weekend actually a challenge in itself
because now you've got expectation on the top of the
confidence from that win at Twickenham, and you know, they've
now got to be able to show that the twicken
And win wasn't a one off. And as I say,
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that's something that we've experienced also often in the last
four or five years and again probably going back further.
So the questions who are certainly being asked for Joe Schmid,
I've always liked the way that he's just not panicked
about about anything and he's explained his methods pretty well.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
And so.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
You know, how do you have how do you have
had a one from four or indeed, if he does
have a one from four Spring tour, those questions might return.
But yeah, there's certainly no day everyone knows that he's
there to get the wall of his as competitive as
they can be for the line next year, so there's
there's certainly not going to be any raised decisions after
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after the way twenty twenty three paid out.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
All right, well, a wonderful one. We all enjoyed it.
Here I have to say Bred as well. We were
chairing for Max Jorgenson running down the left hand side
in the eighty fourth minute as well. It was a great,
great contest made of what some of you, some of
your footage, your podcast etc. Afterwards. Just delighted for you, mate,
and what a what a moment for all wall of
these rugby fans. Thanks for taking the time for.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
A chat mate, No no problems, but good chat and
as I say, it's been enjoyable twenty four hours, no
doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I better Brett, thanks indeed. Brett McKay then Rugby Broadcast
a podcast, a journalist, columnist, co host of the eight
to nine, a rather eight nine combo rugby podcast. Find
him on social was always good fun. Brett McKay always
good to chat to him. I was thinking about the
all Blacks went over Ireland. Ireland, weren't even that good
were they? Where was the island we were promised the
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island that was at a doll forty seven to beat us.
I've watched back the highlights two or three times, and
I've sort of watched the game and sort of flick
through moments. I know, hindsight's a wonderful thing, but it
never felt like they were going to beat us, especially
in the second half when they started just making mistake
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after mistake after mistake. And I can only think the
only reason I can think of really is that they
haven't had a heck of a lot of rugby lately.
In fact, they've had none. They haven't played since they
played those test matches in South Africa around about the
same time that England were down here playing us. Because
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they just they look short of a gallop. And I
think this, and we shouldn't really be surprised, should we,
because you do need to be playing rugby to be
rugby fit, if you know what I mean. I know
they can turn around and say, well, we're coming in
fresh We're up against an all Black side that's seen up,
been beaten up in the Rugby Championship and had some
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tough games. But what that's done is hardened as herded
the All Blacks because I look at the scores over
the weekend of the Southern Hemisphere sides up against the
Northern Hemisphere sides and they all say exactly the same thing.
The margins of victory aren't perhaps all the same. But
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New Zealand twenty three, Ireland thirteen. We've just talked about,
Australia forty two, England thirty seven. South Africa, as Brett
pointed out, were relatively comfortable rarely against Scotland thirty two fifteen.
Fi G beat Wales, who are terrible at the moment.
Doesn't matter if they've played or not they have, They've
haven't won for ten tests. It's ten straight defeats for Wales.
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The last time they won was the World Cup last
year and Argentina putting fifty on Italy fifty points to eighteen.
The only Northern Hemispheare side that emerged with any credit
or a victory over the weekend from the Six Nations
was France and they beat Japan fifty two twelve. So
you look ahead and you say, okay, well, now they've
had a game or two some of them. You look
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ahead to the games they've got coming up this weekend.
Let's leave Italy out of it for the meantime. Let's
look at the Old Five Nations. Or we can bring
Italy and if we like it, I can find out
who they're playing. If we like this, I didn't mean
to discriminate against the Italians. We can check on their
game this weekend as well. But of the others, I
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look at, you know, potential winners in these games, and
they all seem to me to be from the South.
Ireland are playing Argentina. Argentina will give them a real run.
Scotland are playing Portugal least I'll probably win that, but
they're playing against another European side, England to play in
South Africa. South afrigable. When that we're playing France, I've
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got us winning that. And Australia are going to Cardiff
to play Wales. They'll win that. Italy are hosting Georgia,
so again a couple of Europeans, so in competent. In
contests where it's North up against South, I'd have South
all day long. I saw this Freddy called thing today
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said there's a fine line between rugby supremacy and mediocrity.
It's called the equator. I love that.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I love that, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I feel more confident about us against France than I
did against Ireland, and I thought would beat Ireland. I
know hindsight again is a wonderful thing, but I was
pretty confident would beat Ireland, probably for the reason that
I just outlined that they just haven't had any rugby
and as someone's pointed out on text here, Simon says,
Ireland is just getting old, just getting old and tired.
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I feel like they've missed their chance, right, They missed
their chance to capitalize on their golden generation, and that
was last year's Rugby World Cup. They missed the opportunity.
Richard says, you just have to look at whoever the
All Blacks play in their first game of the season.
They never play well. Great point, Richard, absolutely bang on.
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We always expect the All Blacks to be good first up,
but they never are, even after a whole season of
super rugby. Kevin says, Piney watch out for the Wallabies
next two years. Joe schmid stuchron Lions to a World Cup.
Exciting times. Exciting times, indeed, Kevin, exciting times and deed
like I think we all down here want Australia to
be competitive. Don't we said this a lot. You know,
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we don't want to bleed Uslow Cup just to be
a fatal com plea every single time. I think we
all want to keep winning it. Yeah, but I think
we want. I think we want Australia to be strong.
I don't know I was. If it's Australia against England
and rugby, then I'm at the moment I'm cheering for Australia.
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That isn't always the case in all sport and cricket
for example, I don't know who I cheer for when
England play Australia and cricket, but in rugby, at the
moment it is absolutely the Australians, so I cheer four,
probably because they're the underdogs. The richest race of New
Zealand Cup Week is tomorrow's one million dollar New Zealand
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Trotting Cup at Addington. Let's bring in harness racing expert
from the Tab, Matt Smith. Matt, thanks for joining us
on the eve of this of this big day at Addington.
How big a day is this on the New Zealand
Racing calendar? For well, I guess for horse racing enthusiasts,
but also for the tab.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
Yeah, hi Jason, you look it's a massive day. It's
traditionally in the last few years been the second biggest
day of the year behind the Melbourne Cup itself. So
domestically it is right up there. We've had have been
a competition at the start of the years in the
crack of millions meeting. But yeah, Addington and New Zealand
trotting Cup days only as I started right up there.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Now, talk to me about the field because it seems
to me as though there's been a lot of back
and forth as far as this field is concerned. Can
you unpack this for us?
Speaker 8 (31:04):
Yeh's starts out with nominations several months ago and everything
was kind of going along a swowingly. He had a
few nominations from Australia, which is fantastic to see. There's
an amazing horse called Lead to Fame who was in
the field. He's won forty four of US fifty five starts.
But he's just had a couple of issues just in
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the last week or so, so when it looked like
he might be in a little bit of doubt, last
year's a winner. Swayzy his connections. Actually Lates nominated for
the race, which was I think was a five figure
costs to actually nominate Late for the race. Leap to
Fame has gone out, Swayzey's in and so that's kind
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of changed the whole confection of the race actually to
be fair, because Leap to Fame was drawn to get
away from the front row and make things very interesting
and now yeah, things have been turned upside down a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
So in overall terms, then how strong is the field?
Speaker 8 (32:01):
Very strong? Yeah, I think as Leap to Fame was
in there, it's probably one of the strongest cuts from
fifteen to many years. I think it's still right up
there anyway, especially when you have last week, last year's
winner in Swaysey, Maryland, who's the leading New Zealand chants.
He's probably going to get in front of Swayze early on,
which will make things quite interesting. And as I mentioned,
there's a couple of other rises and they're better. Eclipses
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are very consistent. Obviously won the Auckland Cup back in May,
and yeah, then you've filled us through a store a
number of New Zealand chances. Don't stop don't stop dreaming,
Republican Party could run a bit of a race at
odds too, So yeah, I think the depths is definitely
there this year.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Do you think there's any sense of a Trains and
Tasman rivalry when it comes to you to a day like.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
This, it's probably it is probably where harness raising is
probably a slight advantage over the Thurbrig Race in New Zealand,
in so much as Australians don't mind coming over having
to go and grabbing our money, we actually do that
quite a bit with the racers over there too often.
Now trotters have have the edge on the on the
Australian trotters, which ironically isn't the this year, which I
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might touch on shortly, but yeah, it's certainly, it's definitely.
It's the flavored. It's more betting in the pubs and
clubs over in Australia on the day too, so there's
plenty you like about that.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
What do you think the attraction of harness racing is.
I don't know, I get you know, Melbourne Cup obviously
racing trotting. What do you think the attraction is.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
It's probably a little bit more tactical. Most of the
race is a minimum of one mile, and you probably
have more races where you're going as from one mile
through the twenty four hundred meters twenty six hundred meters
and this year's well in the Trolling Cup every year
is threey and two hundred meters. And because the tracks
are a little bit smaller competer fur, you do see
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a lot more moved than mid race, so it does
become quite a tactical of fear. And you know, you
might think your horse is in a bad spot than
four hundred meters later be in a good spot. So
that's one of the things for me. It's traditionally been
a big, big racing code down Cannabry as well, and
even South End is producing many great champions over the years,
like Cardigan Bay, which some of your older listeners may recall,
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and also the like the young Quinn. So it's certainly
got a strength in the Cannabry in Southend regions and
also a little bit in the White Kadow too.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
All right, you made it, give us, give us a
peck or two, and maybe a roughie as well.
Speaker 8 (34:27):
Variety Hi. Well, once let Fame had come out, we
had Merlin and Swayzey fighting out favoritism, but all the
money has very much come for Swayzey. Now, if he
can get in front of Milan, let's say, with a
lap and a half two laps out, it could dear
I s Abu race over. Miryland is a very good
sprinter when he gets a little bit of cover too.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
But.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
I'm gonna be a little bit loyal stick with Merlin.
I think hopefully he can make a little bit difficult
for Swayzey to get to the front. So yeah, Meryland
should probably be hovering around just over that three dollar
mark lean into the race, and I think for a
bit of a place money, you're probably looking at the
number four Mwanga, fantastically named of course, who probably should
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get near the markers as they stay just on the
inside of a little bit of cover and should be
kicking on hopefully into you know, into a top three
or top four spot. There's just one more that we're
a little bit worried about here. Beach Ball has taken
a whole lot of money, so we will be a
little bit nervous if beach Ball starts to loom on
the turn. That's number sixteen and currently he's at one
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hundred and ones. So yeah, we're nervous, but not too nervous,
shall we say?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
All right, a big day in prospect tomorrow. I think
it jumps about what five forty six? Did I see?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (35:44):
That's right, yep, eleven of twelve. Another big races on
the card. We've got Dominion trot which, as I mentioned,
a big outstanding aussy trotter and that called just believe
he's at about a dollar twenty or dollar thirty somewhere
around that. And yeah, two other group ones on the day,
so absolutely massive days should be fifteen twenty thousand people
on course, absolutely loving it.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Brilliant stuff. Man, it's a big day in christ Church.
Thanks for calling in mate Matt Smith out of the
tab with a bit of a preview of the New
Zealand Trolling Cup tomorrow goes at five forty six tomorrow
afternoon year, massive week in Christy. Hope everybody down there
is gearing.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Up for.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
A big day at Addington tomorrow. It's called to eight
pinety's power rankings. In a moment, Leon from Melbourne seas piney,
I don't want to step on your toes and preempt
your power rankings, but a shout out to my Kansas
City Chiefs, still the only unbeat inside in the NFL.
They're chasing history as current back to back Super Bowl champions,
attempting to be the first team to three peat in
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the modern era. Thanks Leon, they haven't made my Power rankings, mate,
I'm sure that won't surprise you. But if they do
go back to back to back, then you could be
sure sometime in February, on the Monday following the Super Bowl,
then I'm sure the Kansas City Chiefs will be there
or thereabouts. Tonight's Power rankings coming up next here on
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Sports Talks Our rankings. Indeed, Monday Night Piney's Power Rankings,
rating the best and worst of the weekend sporting action.
Before we even get started tonight and hit the top ten,
there's an honorable mention for the Welsh rugby team.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
A result that plunges Welsh rugby into frustats.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, I couldn't even put them into the top ten
after a tenth straight defeat. The last time Wales won
game of rugby was against Georgia in the group stages
at the last Rugby World Cup. All right, let's go
Manchester City.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
They are.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
There is no respite, no immediate recovery.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Four defeats in a row, unsharded waters in perhaps illustrious
managerial career.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
It has been a long time since we've seen Manchester
City struggle like this. Nine is the Australian cricket team.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I have a pitch straight.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Down the ground, barbers on with a very heads in
the air.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
The skip of the.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
Same Pakistan and Australia in the.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Series, the first time they've done it in this country
for twenty two years. And a massive series win as
well for Pakistan in Australia in their three match One
Day International series.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
Eight.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Hake Taw Kiwei's.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Back for Johnson to kick for Osaka right there clinically Dons. Yeah,
Johnson giving us some real delightful.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Touches in this secondom something to remember it by. In
the farewell performance. Yeah, fitting seened off for Sean Johnson,
but still only third for the Kiwis in the Pacific Championship.
Seven the black Caps.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
It's gone straight up.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
It's the Capers ask to me and he does it,
and so of the black Caps.
Speaker 7 (39:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I drawn T twenty series against Sri Lanka. Coming back
to Earth, I guess a little bit after their heroic
Test Series win over India six six dogs. Everybody loves dogs.
But while we're watching that, there's a dog on the pitch,
Anily Longo. I think that might be Nily Longo's own dog.
Speaker 9 (39:22):
And now there are all sorts of players trying to
tempt the cane Ie I'm the team to hard and
Longo reunited with her poach versus indeed the feast league
in the world.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Five into the top half we find the Phoenix Men
and their Japanese import herdeki is Shiga.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Going for tech.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Oh my goodness, what ay strike?
Speaker 6 (39:48):
What a way to open your account in the IUZA
You a league an absolute teach from hedeci Ishigia.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
She gave with an absolute screamer, a three nil away
win for the Phoenix bouncing back well from Darby defeats
four Kiwi jockey James McDonald Jason, that's taking the leader
prefitness to Jamie Backs rolled the hat down, finishing the
Melbourne Cup Carnival. James McDonald with a record eleven wins
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three the Wallabies with a win for the Ages.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
It's one of the.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Greatest moments in Wallaby's history.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
And it belongs j Jorginson.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
They have stunning women. Absolutely classic victory at Twickenham two
the All Blacks.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
A statement fend with the All Backs. He no father
the world number one in the All Backs in Irish
fits again.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I stake that in your book, Johnny Sixton one the
best senior golfer in the world is a key wait
Steven Elka. A disapporded reaction for Steven Elker.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
Bernhard lager is going to secure his forty seventh victory
on the Champions Tour.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Pre knows card solution for Steven Alker, who will be
crowded the season one champion. Yeah, pretty nice consolation, all right,
and a bit of cash to boot. He's made seventeen
million New Zealand dollars on that Champions Tour. That's the
over over fifties tour since he started playing on it
about three years ago. Has hope for I was gonna say,
I hope for a shit, Andy, there's hope for you.
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If you keep on your same trajectory, by the time
you reach fifty, you could be in Steve Elka territory.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
Well, that's what I'm really hoping to do, you know.
I shot a sub ninety yesterday, Piny I know, yes.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
I broadcast that. Yeah, I seved got that half folly
for you so that you could you could let us
all know a good roundhow.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
It's absolutely fantastic ground the round of my life so far.
But yeah, just keep an eye out for me anyway. Finally,
just on the some dog's business, it's very Jason Pine
areas to be able to recognize the dog based on
the player.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Who owns the dog.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
It just it just felt felt quite right that you
were able to work that out pretty much did on
the spot.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Well, you know, I like to put in prep for
these commentaries, as you know, and knowing the names and
types and the plate of bread. Yes, I might call
it s talk you got it.
Speaker 7 (42:16):
I don't know, but it was.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
It was quite the moment when Annale Longo's dog, whose
name incidentally is Tiger, made it onto the field yesterday.
Power Rack ex back next week coming up three to way.
That's sports Talk for tonight. It's back tomorrow night between
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