December 4, 2024 • 38 mins
D’Arcy Waldegrave is back to round up this today's sporting news. Highlights for tonight include:
Greg Barclay - Former ICC Chairman
Talkback - Should the Blackcaps have been docked points by the ICC?
Joe Parker - On his upcoming world title bout.
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(01:08):
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hard crack that little orbital hole is ugly, ugly, ugly,
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Joe Parker joining us later on and the peace up first.
Former Chairman of the International Cricket Council the ic C,
Greg Barker say, former hon he lives in rob like
four days ago and the media are and honest case
I talk Joys. We're going to talk to him about
the the fine meets it out to England and New
(01:57):
Zealand and the deduction of points the World Test Championship
for slow over rates during the first Test in christ Church. How, why, where,
what for? How far does this go? And then we'll
take your calls on at that very subject. Should the
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black Caps or indeed England been sanctioned points as well
as a fine for the slow overrate. We've had very
different opinions up here in the studio across the Sports department.
I'd be really keen to hear yours. But before we
go there, let's go here Sport Today, in Sports Today,
(02:38):
slow over store England bowler Chris Wipe says no interest
in carrying on the conversation though.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I don't think it's been spoken.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I'll to be honest with that.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Obviously, the game finished the day and half early, so
I think that's all it needs to be said. Yeah, no,
that doesn't matter, mate. You didn't know what was going
to finish a day and a half early, right you did?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
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of the home, domestic and international season, after having a
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(04:15):
of course a small matter of at twenty Women's World
Cup Cup. It makes sense, Champion.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
It's our job and I love doing it, training and playing,
and I think it's utilizing the time at home. Yes,
we're busy and we're playing. That actually being able to
spend time in your own home and it does feel
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of a suitcase.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
And that's the sport today.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's eleven minutes after seven. This is Sports Talk on
News Talks. There b Greg Barkley to join us now
former chairman of the International Cricket Council, to talk us
through the decision made by the ICC to not only
find the Englishman and the New Zealanders for slow overrates
in that first Test, but also to dock them championship points.
(05:03):
That's three points each. Engle don't care because they've transgressed
so many times. It doesn't matter. I'm amazed they're still
on positive points quite frankly, doesn't matter to New Zealand. Well,
it kind of does. They had a very slender chance
of getting through to that World Test Championship final and
that's got Well there's still a chance. There's still a chance.
It's minimal, but there is still a chance. So the
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question is why do you put a fine out like that.
Are you actually punishing the fans? Are you punishing the players?
Is it entirely necessary when it's been pointed out by
so many people the game first, the day and a
half early anyway, why so niggly over time to answer that,
we hope in a whole lot more. Greg Barkley, the
(05:45):
former chair joins us. Now, Greg, welcome to the show.
Good good, what You've only been out of the job
a few days and already the media are on your case.
It doesn't stop, does it. The issue around at the moment,
of course, is the slow overrate, something that you'd suggest
has been dogging international cricket, well Test cricket for some
time now. In your former position, the attitude that's been taken,
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the rules that have been put in place, Why what
are you trying to achieve? What was the ICC trying
to achieve by putting these restrictions and penalties.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
In the first of all, it is just about the
fans and making sure that they get what they're paid for,
which is a certain amount of cricket every day. So
it was it was all designed to ensure that, you know,
there was a minimum standard and a minimum amount of
cricket that was delivered through the course of a day,
and it was deemed at the time, and I think
that most teams are able to comply that that was
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a fair number of overs to expect any team of
Test cricket to get through. There's a second consideration as
well as the fans and fan expectation. That's there's a
commercial consideration overlay, because a number of broadcasters will actually,
as part of their contracts, take the time in between
overs to sell advertising. So of course, if they've paid
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an amount for broadcasts and broadcast rights and they're getting
ady overs in a day not ninety, that's ten five
whatever slots that they don't have available to them in
terms of advertising return. So there is a commercial consideration
out of this as well, which potentially puts boards at
odds with the broadcast or their media rights agreements. Primarily,
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it is about setting ammum standard to ensure that a
certain amount of cricket has actually played each day.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I do would agree though with teams like news in
and in England the most recent TRANSGRESSI is of this law.
Is it actually working because it's just in that case not.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Yeah, Statistically, I don't know whether since this particular rule,
and bear in mind that that was something that was
put in place in consultation with the players and their
representatives the icec's Credit Committee to actually, I guess, do
something other than just find them more impose a monetary penalty.
So this was the agreed outcome that maybe they docked
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a few points for they are only the games that matter,
of course, that will championship games. That's what we're talking
about here. As I say, to get a minimum standard
and have all the teams consistent across in the number
of owners that they're delivering in a day's play. So
is it working. I think generally most teams are trying
hard to comply and to meet that standard, so I'd
(08:25):
suggest that yes, it probably is. Is it perfect clearly not.
Is there a better way to do it? Probably mine's
better than mine across those credling committees, and you know,
the guys that have played and been involved in the
game at that level, you might have to go back
and see if there's another alternative that they could bring
to beer. But this was certainly the agreed consensual position
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to land on was to dock points, and I think,
as I say, generally, most teams seem to be able
to get through. They're over some in New Zealand has
been an excellent performer date. I think that this is
if I'm right, there is a ce first transgression in
terms of being dock points. So you know, we traditionally
run the medium pace and medium fast attack. We don't
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use spinners a lot of New Zealand. We still hit
the ninety overs a day, so it is keenly achievable.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Greg Barkley joins Greg. I'm interested in the ninety overs
a day being possible. I'm presuming tests will run around that.
And there's also the interference of maybe you have twenty
six is hit and you lose the ball. Maybe there
are too many bowler changes, maybe drinks, maybe too many wickets,
mid pitch meetings, injuries, the list goes on. So when
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you look at that ninety overs, how do you take
into account the actual timing of that throughout the day,
with the possibility of interruptions. And at the bottom line,
it is possible, I presume if nothing too much goes on.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
Yeah, and all of that is taken into account. There
is the mechanism is in place to make adjustments to
take an account injury or as you said, the number
of times the ball across as a boundary, any mirory
of the kind of things, time that it's lost for
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legitimate reasons has taken into account. So it's not a
hard and fast ninety overs. That might end up being
eighty seven overs depending on whatever. But ninety is that
that's the benchmark and that's the standard. And then I
guess that you know, you come back from there and
better minds than mine across the referees and the umpires
or whatever.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
We'll use the.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Tools that they've got to make those calculations to bring
it back to a fear number without unduly penalizing players
or teams.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I'm sure this has been discussed, but this situation look
in New Zealand, that was already a pretty slim chance
to get to the World Test Championship Final. It's pretty
much gone now. I'm into mathematical change are granted, but
by deducting points in the World Test Championship, surely that
is more of a punishment to the fan base than
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the players themselves, because the fans are the ones that
want to see their team play at the highest level.
So in a sense, they get punished for something that
the players did.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
Yeah, you're absolutely right, And again that's another consideration, isn't it.
And that's precisely what happened to Australia in the first
round of the World Test Championship. They were dock points
and I think in A. Nash's series from memory and
that that was critical. It meant that they actually missed
their slot in the World Test Championship Final. But you know,
(11:28):
I guess that the opposite applies as well, doesn't it.
You know, those players are effectively letting their fans down
and missing an opportunity to get to a World Test
Championship final by being sort of slow or not giving
enough consideration to getting through those overs. Because it, as
(11:50):
I said, it's not like we're not talking about an
unreasonable target here. Most teams in most games managed to
hit that ninety over thing, and there is the mechanism
to adjust if there are good reasons to bring that
over a number of overs down. So we're talking about
leggeds here. You know, if they're just simply not getting
through their overs, then maybe the fans have got a
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cause to take the team or the players to account.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Is there a thought, greg, is it talked about maybe
changing the amount of over is extending maybe the hours
of play? Is there a move to take all that
into account? Should this carry on? Because it doesn't happen
all the time, And I think England the chief protagonists
here when it comes to not completely they're over. But
(12:38):
that does that looked at from an ic C level
like we got this right?
Speaker 7 (12:43):
Absolutely does. And you know there are a number of
other considerations as to why you know, tests play, the
number of hours through the course of the day, that
is to deal with light and weather and other conditions
like that. So again I guess that the happy medium
has been met somewhere there, so there is consistency, you know,
(13:03):
the subcontinent and we stend it's sorry they lose a
light very quickly. A little bit different, say in New
Zealand where you could extend play. But again I think
that you know where the ninety is, that is the
right number, imposing a minimum standard and making them get
through their overs, because there's nothing more frustrating to a
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fan and watching teams that are just dawdling is they're
getting through the course of the day. You know, they're
stopping there talking, it's more drinks, it's all that sort
of stuff. So you know, and I think the umpires
have a rolled to plan this as well, to move
things along so we're all learning and hopefully it will
get better. But yeah, again I think the standard is
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not unreasonable. I don't think and that's not necessarily my view.
That's a view that a lot of people are involved
with cricket X players across the committees and all the
rest of it, seem to think that is fair and
that is reasonable and if that's right, then I guess
the other teams, as you say there, those that transgress
will come into line hopefully. If if they don't and
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enough teams aren't able to do that, maybe something needs
to change in terms of the way that we're doing this.
But look, as I said at the outset, accept that
it's probably not perfect and probably needs to have some
more time and some more consideration to see if there's
a better way of doing it, because it didn't work
when they were financially penalized. So going to the next
alternative is what's been agreed and this is what we're
(14:31):
working with at the moment.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I'm a cricket nafi. I know when time's being wasted.
I can see it. But I wonder how many fans,
casual fans of the game actually even notice. That's another consideration,
isn't it.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
Yeah, I think that that's dead right, And you know
this is probably you know if you and I were
sitting there and eighty seven zero is not nineteen the day,
would we really notice? Probably? Probably not. But again I
think that for the safety consistency, if all those teams
are to be on an equal footing, going to the
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World Test Championship. Then some team aren't delivering the others
that they need to know they should be some somehow, somewhere,
there has to be a consistency across standards that are
being imposed. And you know that's just one of them.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I guess no need for the DMO. We've got the
breakdown on Sports Talk News Talk two.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
That's Greg Barclay, former chairman of the ic C, only
four days out of the job and already he is
on the phone. Interesting subject, Great words as well from Greg,
justifying why the ICC give fines and further punishments to
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teams that transgress the laws of the game. When you
look into the future, you don't know the game is
going to end with a day and a half to play.
You don't know that. You can't know that. It's not
possible to know that. So you shouldn't treat each day
like it's okay, We're going to have plenty of time. Look,
chances are there will be tests of finishing quicker in
(16:11):
this day and age. Question for you and you're the fans,
because I talk to a lot of people in the
office today varying opinions, some people saying the rules are rules,
and the rules must be stuck by because the rules,
there's no point in ever having a game other people
like lighting up. It's test cricket. It's slow, who cares?
So it's another few overs? Do you really notice? Because
(16:34):
I do? Because I'm a nuffy. You can start it faster,
So I want your opinion. Should the black Caps and England?
Of course, although England just get fined out of the
game all the time. Should they have been sanctioned points
because the find doesn't seem to work? According to Greg Barkley,
should there have been sanctioned to points for a slow
over rate? Absolutely? They should have absolute right decision from ICC.
(17:01):
They can't make laws of the game and then only
apply them on a whim. Oh it was only wee,
but over the pop increasingly delivered that Lad's akay, it
can be a wick. It's not a bit orry, but
it's fine, do you I The boll might have just
bounced in front of him, but it's pretty close to all.
Given the catch, you can't do that. There'll be w
(17:24):
while it just scraped the bail. Sadi's out. You can't
do that. This is a rule, This is a law,
This is a playing condition. If you don't do this,
we are going to find you and dock you points. Now,
it might seem manifestly unfair that the amount of points
are being docked and the application of that rule, But
(17:45):
I'll go back to this old thought again. Control the narrative.
That's what you have to do. If you don't give
them the opportunity to find you, it doesn't happen. So
don't do it. There's my thoughts. Anyway, I'd love to
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hear yours, because I know there is so much around this,
so many different opinions. Should they have been sanctioned points?
This is the right way to go for slow overrate?
Or is it just an over extension and petty when
you look at the length of test cricket full stop?
What does this do for you? Let us know, oh,
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Speaker 2 (19:11):
Sports Talk on News Talks AB or eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty lines are open, whether they should or
shouldn't have been sanctioned or fine. That is one story talk.
This new phrase being used in sport putting the fans
at the center of the room. Listening to Greg before,
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so it's plainly a commercial activity as well, and they've
got to look after the sponsors. Understandable. If you're putting
the fans at the center of the room and you're
the fan, you're at the center of the room, right,
it's all about you. Do you even care about slow overrates?
Do you get tangled up when you know that things
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are slow? You're at the ground, You're tapping your wrist.
What's going hold on? Hold on, no, No, I paid for
more than this. I'm not going to do eighty three
overs and be happy. Time is money. When you're sitting
it home, does it upset your rhythm?
Speaker 8 (20:17):
Because you could.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Say mountain out of a molehill and I know there
are people out here in the building and go look
it's a few overs to us. They don't worry about it.
And then you get to the end of the test
and it's a few overs and suddenly you lose the
game because ran out of time. Then you worry about it.
You can't predict the future. I watch test cricket all
day and there's probably something wrong with me, but I
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do and I know when it's slow, and I don't
like it. You've got a job, and your job is
to entertain me. Get out there and entertain me. Standing
around for hours pointing at the field and adjusting this
and tweaking him. It's stop it, stop it entertain me
and I'm not entertained by constant stoppages and breaking No,
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I don't want it work for me. We pay your wages, right,
it's a horrible thing to say. Remember salesman who studies
me years ago. You know, don't forget I pay your wages.
You look after the clients. No, I didn't hit them,
but I should have done. But in this case it's true.
It's about fan centric. Put us at the center of
the room. So you. I want to know from you
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whether you actually give two hoots or not, whether the
overrate is slow, I care, I may be an outlier.
I don't know. Good day, Chris, how are you?
Speaker 10 (21:39):
Yeah? Good days? Listen to three points. If you lose
twelve hours a day over three to four days and
the game goes five days, it could kill the result.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, that's exactly what Greg Barkley was saying before.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
Yes. And the other thing is Stokes is an idiot.
He wow, he had not the lot, an absolute anguish tosser,
even though I was born here. When he said I
don't care we can't get to the fire of the
World Test Championship, Well, what's that thattitude?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Is that it's terrible? But does that necessarily mean that
New Zealand had to fall into the same track They didn't,
and they didn't have to and they did, so they're
problem not.
Speaker 10 (22:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, yes, you're right they did. I
know the fact that they're bowling four quicks. But does
that mean now that the only time you're going to
get ninety overs in the day is in India when
you're buying four spinners.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Well, I've talked to I've talked to other people crickets.
They look's almost impossible to get ninety overs and in
the day it's actually a lot of overs to get
it in one day. They need more time to do it.
And of course Greg Barkley just told us that it's
finding it ninety overs in just get.
Speaker 10 (22:53):
Amongst all over time, but before your time.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, just a bit. I like saying. I like it
when someone makes me feel young, Thank you very much.
But I think you got your trim bits off the
day's play instead of stand around having a conference in
the middle of the Patriotary captain about how fine your
leg's going to be get on the game. And if
that adds up slowly bit surely a minute, there are
sixty seconds, ninety seconds. Oh wow, we've gone through our
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ninety overs. It's a directive do it.
Speaker 10 (23:22):
And but the other thing is asked, they don't care.
They make so much money out of twenty twenty leagues
around the world playing cricket. Now there's over finding them
because they don't care. They're all making they're all making
anywhere between two and ten million of a year.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, and that's what Greg said. We tried fining. That
didn't work, so we're trying to do something slightly more
punitive to see if that works. And Chris, we've got
a fly, plenty of callers on, but thanks for your time,
and it's they still don't care. Let's go to the
text line nine two nine to two zed b z B.
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There's a guy that reckons if you start affecting the
game result, then things might change. It's simple, you mow Foes,
writes this character. I won't expand on that. I think
you know Bowllion ninety eight was. It's not very much
to ask. If it was up to me, teams would
lose a wicket per over shortfall. Then you'd never see
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a sub ninety over a day again. I guarantee it,
how I reckon? He's right? Hi Allen?
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Yeah, Hi mate? I think the worst defender in the
news team is Tim Souvey. You could just grow across
the savages as cabbages in the time it takes him
to walk back to his mark.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Just a wee bit quicker, isn't It doesn't take much
to make up all you at a time, does it.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
Well? You compare him to the rest of the quicks.
They walk back twice as quick as he does.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
One might put a stopwatch on him and find out.
Do you think it would work? Alan though, if teens
would docked wickets, not Test championship points, not money. But
would that see them hurry out?
Speaker 8 (25:11):
I don't know that. I think the umpires ord to
just put a bomb under Southian people like him that
wander back to their mark and don't send to give
a damn about how quick the game goes.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, the producer and he just talked to my ear
and this has come through on takes as well. What
about a shot clock. I mean they tried using it
in rugby and that doesn't work because none of the
referees can like read a clock. They got no idea,
but maybe that and maybe that's something to do. I
don't know if it's necessary up to the umpire in
the middle to wipe the noses of these players and
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wipe their backsides for them.
Speaker 8 (25:48):
Well, no, I agree with that, But I think the
worst example is it doesn't look the slightest interest. I
know that his performances don't them out because he doesn't
look the slightest bit interested. When he's walking back, he's
probably ticking over what he's going to do next, but
he just looks as though he could rather be out fishing.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Well, he will be in about two weeks time. Alan
thanks very much for your call. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
If you'd like to join on everything, he's in isolate
Tim South although Allen did so, just just tim. A
lot of them do it, and it's just incremental and
minute there, ninety seconds there, forty five seconds there. I'll
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just change that field. No, you want to come forward
to where you want to go. Oh, I'm a thirsty
all my gloves are wet on my ah. If they
were losing wickets, it had speed up very fast. More
punitive measures will stop this. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
(26:57):
Someone agree, same word. They need to be far more punitive.
They did for no balls or the free hit, and
they drive them up overnight. It's true capable stop the
batters having a change of gloves and a drink every
two hours as well. I already get thirty minutes extra
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to allow for missed overs. I mean, how can they
not organize that with an extra harp? And that's a
fair point. Find them their entire match fee. That's some
financial punishment that might work. See a lot of people
climbing on board on text. We're all administrators, aren't we?
It is twenty three minutes to eight coming up next,
(27:40):
Joseph Parker. Explosive Joseph Jurassic Parker. I will leave you
with this thought. Penalty runs five added to the batting
teams score that every over that hasn't been bold see
one way or the other. Runs wickets runs wickets make
it palpable and then it might change. There's news talks
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there BM Darcy, thanks for listening. No so Red now
want you to make it you said in mind especially
you know from minutes to eight leaked out a day early.
Result was the same, though. Joe Parker has another crack
(28:22):
at a world heavyweight title in his way. Is Daniel
Dubois seek to go mid late February and Joe joins
us now the former WO champ looking to go one
better with Danny. I trust you well, Joe, welcome to
the show and you are ready for this fight. Huh?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I am very well and it's taken. You know what
was taking me. It was to get a fight, but
with landed with a big one. My last fight was
in March against Jane and it was great to get
that win. And then from then I was just waiting,
a waiting game, you know, I was I was told
there was a fight in September, October, December, but now
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we're playing Loft in the big one in February, and
I'm very happy, happy to be lockdown for Fairy twenty two.
It's not only a big fight, but it's a massive
card to be involved in back in Saudi Arabia. So
all this waiting is going to come to it's going
to come to come to an end because there's a
big fighting, big challenge for ahead of us.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
You're always on track after your dismissals of Shag of
Dante Wilder, which is stunning, But to get a crack
now at the world title, is it sooner than you
expected considering what you've been doing, or around about the
right timing.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I feel like it's I feel like it's around about
the right timing, you know, with the Water and Jane fight.
We've always talked about it, not inly myself, but when
I talk, when I say we it's Andy Lee, George
lockout myself. We're always talking about, you know, just doing
the right things at the right time and taking the
right fights at the right time. And we spoke about
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fighting for the IBA Championship of the World a year
ago or a year and a half ago, and now
we're here. Now, we didn't know we're going to get there.
A lot of things had to happen, you know, Joshua
had to know, Joshua losing to Dubois and you know,
to beating her convention. All these things had to happen
in order for us to be in this position. So
I'm really aesthetic that we're here and now it's you know,
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it's just now. It's just the beginning. It's the beginning
of the journey, because the title was where it's at
on the twenty second of February button to get there,
there's a lot of things that have to happen, you know,
it's hard work, flying to Ireland, leaving the family for
Christmas and New Year's, meeting up of the team and training,
you know, two or three times a day, six days
a week, eating, breathing, and just doing everything boxing.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Joe Parker joins the show. Joe, how hard of a
fight was this to make? I mean, it's not your job.
It's a managerial situation. I expect because it was released early.
I think the news maybe the day before it was
supposed to have been. But difficulty in putting this together
from a management perspective, do you know.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Well, if you know it was it was some putting
any fight together because we've been waiting since April, so
when we had the opportunity, there's a lot of people
working behind the scenes to make this happened, is Spencer Brown,
David Higgins, Andy George, myself and it is It's one
of those things when the opportunity gets given to you,
then you then it's you take it. But then there's
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things that happen behind the scenes where you have to negotiate,
You have to get the right terms, you have to
make sure that things are okay, because there's there's it's
not just about this fight, it's the fights after it,
one loser drawer that you have to set yourself up
for after these this fight.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
If you know what I mean, are you gonna try
and punch to Ba in the ice socket? Because it
worked for Joe Joyce. I still remember that fight. It
was brutal the way he fell. Apart is that one
of your clear imprisoned targets, Joe.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Pargett watching those fights and seeing them being susceptible to
those to that spot in particularly, you.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Are gonna you are going to want to aim for
that spot.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
But Dubois and the team that he has now I
think really works while for him. And with each fight
that you had a big baby Miller onto Philip Hokovich,
Anthony Joshua, he's growing in confidence each and every time,
and you can see that in a few of those
fights he has to show to really dig deeper so
grip and determinations get through those hard times in the fight.
(32:28):
So but going back to your question, of course I
want to punch them directly in that spot.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
That's what I want to hear. As far as the
build up and the training, he means you're going to
go back. You've got a massive fight camp. What adjustments
if any, have you made with Andy Lean, of course
your nutritionists who's done so much for you. George Lockhart's
been one of the stars of your camp quite frankly,
But anything adjusted, anything change as far as the build
up for this fight, when you consider how important it
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is for the heavyweight strap.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
You know when you're when you're when you're just training
with no fight in front of you, you're just training
with no real goal or overal aim. And And now
that I have an opponent and Daniel Dubra. Everything is
more specific now going into this camp. But by training
since April, I've put on some good weight. I think
it's all muscleway. A lot of people will be to this,
(33:20):
but I think it's all muscle away. I put on
about ten kgs and now it's time for me to
put all of this ten extra ten kgs into action,
and that's to trim down. My endurance is still at
the best. My power has gone up, and I feel
like my ring IQ has grown just just knowing and
understanding and what I'm doing in the ring and why
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I'm doing certain trainings schedules each and every day.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
You know.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
So I'm in a great place and I'm really I'm
ready to take on the training camp and put in
the best work for this massive fight.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
And I've been stalking your Instagram. I swear your arms
are bigger than my legs. Now. You've definitely grown, there's
no doubt about that, and I think with your ring
on IQ, this is something you'd treasure over recent times.
You're now pacing your fights particularly well. You know ween
to strike, how to strike, and how that operates with
your opposition, and that's been a huge part of what
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you're doing. You're not green behind the ears anymore, are you,
Joe Parker. You're an experienced pugilist, and people thought you
were a journeyman and too old. You're probably hitting the
straps right about the right time.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I feel like I'm hitting into my prime, and I
think with all this experience I have behind me, I'm
able to go into this ring. Not only like you said,
I'm not greeting anymore. I've been in this game for
a while now. But do you know what the best
thing about it is, Darcy. The best thing about it
is that I enjoy it way more now, and I
love it way more now because I understand what I'm doing,
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and there's certain things that were introduced now, like holy moly,
if I knew this a while ago, things would have
been different back then. But you learn to appreciate the
journey and what you've been through, the ups and downs,
and it really makes you appreciate the now and what
I'm doing now.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Some eight years ago when you picked up that title.
I don't think anybody can prepare anyone for picking up
the world title when it comes to being a heavyweight
boxer and you were so young then too. Probably if
you knew it now you do different. But how did
that work for you? Was it a shock? Did you
deal with it as well as you could have done?
(35:23):
What lessons did you take that to apply? Because being
chaining of the world at twenty four, so it's a
little on the stream side, Joe.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
So it's very different. You know, we're twenty four years old.
You want to be your whole goal is to be
champion of the world in the sport of boxing. And
then you're doing it for New Zealand, you're doing it
for some or you're doing it for your dad, you're
doing it for your coach Kevin Barry, doing it for
your team. But I didn't really do it. I did
it for myself, obviously, I wanted to do it for myself.
I'm not really fully for myself. Was more for everyone else.
(35:54):
And I think winning the championship of the world at
twenty four as a young age and I'm still I
was still learning, and i was still growing, and i
was still experimenting with life. But now that I'm at
this age thirty two and I'm a father and I'm
a married man, it's very different going into this fight
with standing the bar. I feel like if I had
the chance now to win the championship the world on
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the twenty second February, I would I would. I would
treat it very into how I treated it before when
I was twenty four years old. I feel like I'm
a lot more mature now and I will appreciate it.
And my goal is to keep that belt once I win.
It is to keep it and hold on to it
for as long as they can and it It would
be nice to be nice to finish off at the top.
I'm thirty five years old, finish off from the boxing
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world at the top of my game, champion of the
world or unified or undisputed.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Well, it was that your target thirty five? You're going
to hang it up regardless are you? Have You given
us a retirement.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Around thirty five, But listen, if I'm dominating, I might
even make it thirty six.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
How does your mate Tyson fiery? He must have responded
really well to that. He must be loving this. Fore,
you're at this all part of your rise and rise
as well. You're good friendship with the Gypsy King.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
He's been very helpful in my career through the ups
and downs and on. My plan is to be there
to support him. In two and a half weeks time,
he's fighting USA for the second time in a rematch,
and I'd love to go over and support him and
back him and see him come on top. You know,
if any man can do it, Tyson Fury can do
it through the things that he's been through the comeback
(37:22):
to it. But he's been really very supportive and I'm
sure that he's very happy for me as well. And
it's imagine that too. You know, we're not brothers, you know,
DNA brothers, but brothers and boxing brothers in life, and
if we could both take over, that'll be truly amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
And this is it I promised the last one. Does
that mean at some stage you might actually fight him
if there's a couple of straps on the line that
you can both pick up?
Speaker 9 (37:45):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I know you seed you would before, But is that
still a possibility?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Never say never? Brother brother against brother, England against New Zealand,
Tyson against Parker.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Never know USO on USO and on that one, Joe Parker,
thanks very much, congratulations, looking forward to watching you do
what you do best and good luck with your diet
of a crystals make that is torture. No more cakes
for you, big man.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Ha haha. Might just have a secret.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
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Joseph Parker. I finally confirmed that he will be fighting
at Daniel Dubois, another crack at a heavyweight strap, eight
(01:08):
years after he picked up his first. One young man
twenty four is able to do now at thirty two.
Will find out how he's training, what he's doing was
that was having Next? Is he going to punch Dany
Dubai in the eye. I'd say that'd be a good idea.
And now on who knows the fight game will know
exactly what I'm talking about, Okay, I reveal or Joseph
Joyce punched him in the ice so many times, so
(01:30):
hard crack that little orbital hole is ugly, ugly, ugly,
So he might try that when he will find out.
Joe Parker joining us later on and the peace up first.
Former Chairman of the International Cricket Council the ic C,
Greg Barker say, former hon he lives in rob like
four days ago and the media are and honest case
I talk Joys. We're going to talk to him about
the the fine meets it out to England and New
(01:57):
Zealand and the deduction of points the World Test Championship
for slow over rates during the first Test in christ Church. How, why, where,
what for? How far does this go? And then we'll
take your calls on at that very subject. Should the
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black Caps or indeed England been sanctioned points as well
as a fine for the slow overrate. We've had very
different opinions up here in the studio across the Sports department.
I'd be really keen to hear yours. But before we
go there, let's go here Sport Today, in Sports Today,
(02:38):
slow over store England bowler Chris Wipe says no interest
in carrying on the conversation though.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I don't think it's been spoken.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I'll to be honest with that.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Obviously, the game finished the day and half early, so
I think that's all it needs to be said. Yeah, no,
that doesn't matter, mate. You didn't know what was going
to finish a day and a half early, right you did?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
It doesn't matter. Let's move on well. Number twenty one
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which is pretty sharp work from tournament director Nico Lambren,
who had to hustle fast to get Keys over the line.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
She was getting married ten years ago, so we had
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Speaker 6 (03:38):
For I'm thinking of at least one four minutes stead
in each quarter and then depending on how the flow
of the game's going. That's when you look to maybe
we can bring it up a little bit more. He's
having a really big impact in this one. Let's get
him out there for another minute here, another minute there,
And that's when you sort of add up to twenty
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Speaker 2 (03:54):
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Wouldn't you? Wow? And white Fern cricketing superstar because she
is merely Kerr is reveling in her work commitments ahead
of the home, domestic and international season, after having a
mad old time of it overseas with the Ossies and
(04:15):
of course a small matter of at twenty Women's World
Cup Cup. It makes sense, Champion.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
It's our job and I love doing it, training and playing,
and I think it's utilizing the time at home. Yes,
we're busy and we're playing. That actually being able to
spend time in your own home and it does feel
almost like a rest just because you're not living out
of a suitcase.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
And that's the sport today.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's eleven minutes after seven. This is Sports Talk on
News Talks. There b Greg Barkley to join us now
former chairman of the International Cricket Council, to talk us
through the decision made by the ICC to not only
find the Englishman and the New Zealanders for slow overrates
in that first Test, but also to dock them championship points.
(05:03):
That's three points each. Engle don't care because they've transgressed
so many times. It doesn't matter. I'm amazed they're still
on positive points quite frankly, doesn't matter to New Zealand. Well,
it kind of does. They had a very slender chance
of getting through to that World Test Championship final and
that's got Well there's still a chance. There's still a chance.
It's minimal, but there is still a chance. So the
(05:24):
question is why do you put a fine out like that.
Are you actually punishing the fans? Are you punishing the players?
Is it entirely necessary when it's been pointed out by
so many people the game first, the day and a
half early anyway, why so niggly over time to answer that,
we hope in a whole lot more. Greg Barkley, the
(05:45):
former chair joins us. Now, Greg, welcome to the show.
Good good, what You've only been out of the job
a few days and already the media are on your case.
It doesn't stop, does it. The issue around at the moment,
of course, is the slow overrate, something that you'd suggest
has been dogging international cricket, well Test cricket for some
time now. In your former position, the attitude that's been taken,
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the rules that have been put in place, Why what
are you trying to achieve? What was the ICC trying
to achieve by putting these restrictions and penalties.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
In the first of all, it is just about the
fans and making sure that they get what they're paid for,
which is a certain amount of cricket every day. So
it was it was all designed to ensure that, you know,
there was a minimum standard and a minimum amount of
cricket that was delivered through the course of a day,
and it was deemed at the time, and I think
that most teams are able to comply that that was
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a fair number of overs to expect any team of
Test cricket to get through. There's a second consideration as
well as the fans and fan expectation. That's there's a
commercial consideration overlay, because a number of broadcasters will actually,
as part of their contracts, take the time in between
overs to sell advertising. So of course, if they've paid
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an amount for broadcasts and broadcast rights and they're getting
ady overs in a day not ninety, that's ten five
whatever slots that they don't have available to them in
terms of advertising return. So there is a commercial consideration
out of this as well, which potentially puts boards at
odds with the broadcast or their media rights agreements. Primarily,
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it is about setting ammum standard to ensure that a
certain amount of cricket has actually played each day.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I do would agree though with teams like news in
and in England the most recent TRANSGRESSI is of this law.
Is it actually working because it's just in that case not.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Yeah, Statistically, I don't know whether since this particular rule,
and bear in mind that that was something that was
put in place in consultation with the players and their
representatives the icec's Credit Committee to actually, I guess, do
something other than just find them more impose a monetary penalty.
So this was the agreed outcome that maybe they docked
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a few points for they are only the games that matter,
of course, that will championship games. That's what we're talking
about here. As I say, to get a minimum standard
and have all the teams consistent across in the number
of owners that they're delivering in a day's play. So
is it working. I think generally most teams are trying
hard to comply and to meet that standard, so I'd
(08:25):
suggest that yes, it probably is. Is it perfect clearly not.
Is there a better way to do it? Probably mine's
better than mine across those credling committees, and you know,
the guys that have played and been involved in the
game at that level, you might have to go back
and see if there's another alternative that they could bring
to beer. But this was certainly the agreed consensual position
(08:45):
to land on was to dock points, and I think,
as I say, generally, most teams seem to be able
to get through. They're over some in New Zealand has
been an excellent performer date. I think that this is
if I'm right, there is a ce first transgression in
terms of being dock points. So you know, we traditionally
run the medium pace and medium fast attack. We don't
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use spinners a lot of New Zealand. We still hit
the ninety overs a day, so it is keenly achievable.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Greg Barkley joins Greg. I'm interested in the ninety overs
a day being possible. I'm presuming tests will run around that.
And there's also the interference of maybe you have twenty
six is hit and you lose the ball. Maybe there
are too many bowler changes, maybe drinks, maybe too many wickets,
mid pitch meetings, injuries, the list goes on. So when
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you look at that ninety overs, how do you take
into account the actual timing of that throughout the day,
with the possibility of interruptions. And at the bottom line,
it is possible, I presume if nothing too much goes on.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
Yeah, and all of that is taken into account. There
is the mechanism is in place to make adjustments to
take an account injury or as you said, the number
of times the ball across as a boundary, any mirory
of the kind of things, time that it's lost for
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legitimate reasons has taken into account. So it's not a
hard and fast ninety overs. That might end up being
eighty seven overs depending on whatever. But ninety is that
that's the benchmark and that's the standard. And then I
guess that you know, you come back from there and
better minds than mine across the referees and the umpires
or whatever.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
We'll use the.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Tools that they've got to make those calculations to bring
it back to a fear number without unduly penalizing players
or teams.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I'm sure this has been discussed, but this situation look
in New Zealand, that was already a pretty slim chance
to get to the World Test Championship Final. It's pretty
much gone now. I'm into mathematical change are granted, but
by deducting points in the World Test Championship, surely that
is more of a punishment to the fan base than
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the players themselves, because the fans are the ones that
want to see their team play at the highest level.
So in a sense, they get punished for something that
the players did.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
Yeah, you're absolutely right, And again that's another consideration, isn't it.
And that's precisely what happened to Australia in the first
round of the World Test Championship. They were dock points
and I think in A. Nash's series from memory and
that that was critical. It meant that they actually missed
their slot in the World Test Championship Final. But you know,
(11:28):
I guess that the opposite applies as well, doesn't it.
You know, those players are effectively letting their fans down
and missing an opportunity to get to a World Test
Championship final by being sort of slow or not giving
enough consideration to getting through those overs. Because it, as
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I said, it's not like we're not talking about an
unreasonable target here. Most teams in most games managed to
hit that ninety over thing, and there is the mechanism
to adjust if there are good reasons to bring that
over a number of overs down. So we're talking about
leggeds here. You know, if they're just simply not getting
through their overs, then maybe the fans have got a
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cause to take the team or the players to account.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Is there a thought, greg, is it talked about maybe
changing the amount of over is extending maybe the hours
of play? Is there a move to take all that
into account? Should this carry on? Because it doesn't happen
all the time, And I think England the chief protagonists
here when it comes to not completely they're over. But
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that does that looked at from an ic C level
like we got this right?
Speaker 7 (12:43):
Absolutely does. And you know there are a number of
other considerations as to why you know, tests play, the
number of hours through the course of the day, that
is to deal with light and weather and other conditions
like that. So again I guess that the happy medium
has been met somewhere there, so there is consistency, you know,
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the subcontinent and we stend it's sorry they lose a
light very quickly. A little bit different, say in New
Zealand where you could extend play. But again I think
that you know where the ninety is, that is the
right number, imposing a minimum standard and making them get
through their overs, because there's nothing more frustrating to a
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fan and watching teams that are just dawdling is they're
getting through the course of the day. You know, they're
stopping there talking, it's more drinks, it's all that sort
of stuff. So you know, and I think the umpires
have a rolled to plan this as well, to move
things along so we're all learning and hopefully it will
get better. But yeah, again I think the standard is
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not unreasonable. I don't think and that's not necessarily my view.
That's a view that a lot of people are involved
with cricket X players across the committees and all the
rest of it, seem to think that is fair and
that is reasonable and if that's right, then I guess
the other teams, as you say there, those that transgress
will come into line hopefully. If if they don't and
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enough teams aren't able to do that, maybe something needs
to change in terms of the way that we're doing this.
But look, as I said at the outset, accept that
it's probably not perfect and probably needs to have some
more time and some more consideration to see if there's
a better way of doing it, because it didn't work
when they were financially penalized. So going to the next
alternative is what's been agreed and this is what we're
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working with at the moment.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I'm a cricket nafi. I know when time's being wasted.
I can see it. But I wonder how many fans,
casual fans of the game actually even notice. That's another consideration,
isn't it.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
Yeah, I think that that's dead right, And you know
this is probably you know if you and I were
sitting there and eighty seven zero is not nineteen the day,
would we really notice? Probably? Probably not. But again I
think that for the safety consistency, if all those teams
are to be on an equal footing, going to the
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World Test Championship. Then some team aren't delivering the others
that they need to know they should be some somehow, somewhere,
there has to be a consistency across standards that are
being imposed. And you know that's just one of them.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I guess no need for the DMO. We've got the
breakdown on Sports Talk News Talk two.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
That's Greg Barclay, former chairman of the ic C, only
four days out of the job and already he is
on the phone. Interesting subject, Great words as well from Greg,
justifying why the ICC give fines and further punishments to
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teams that transgress the laws of the game. When you
look into the future, you don't know the game is
going to end with a day and a half to play.
You don't know that. You can't know that. It's not
possible to know that. So you shouldn't treat each day
like it's okay, We're going to have plenty of time. Look,
chances are there will be tests of finishing quicker in
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this day and age. Question for you and you're the fans,
because I talk to a lot of people in the
office today varying opinions, some people saying the rules are rules,
and the rules must be stuck by because the rules,
there's no point in ever having a game other people
like lighting up. It's test cricket. It's slow, who cares?
So it's another few overs? Do you really notice? Because
(16:34):
I do? Because I'm a nuffy. You can start it faster,
So I want your opinion. Should the black Caps and England?
Of course, although England just get fined out of the
game all the time. Should they have been sanctioned points
because the find doesn't seem to work? According to Greg Barkley,
should there have been sanctioned to points for a slow
over rate? Absolutely? They should have absolute right decision from ICC.
(17:01):
They can't make laws of the game and then only
apply them on a whim. Oh it was only wee,
but over the pop increasingly delivered that Lad's akay, it
can be a wick. It's not a bit orry, but
it's fine, do you I The boll might have just
bounced in front of him, but it's pretty close to all.
Given the catch, you can't do that. There'll be w
(17:24):
while it just scraped the bail. Sadi's out. You can't
do that. This is a rule, This is a law,
This is a playing condition. If you don't do this,
we are going to find you and dock you points. Now,
it might seem manifestly unfair that the amount of points
are being docked and the application of that rule, But
(17:45):
I'll go back to this old thought again. Control the narrative.
That's what you have to do. If you don't give
them the opportunity to find you, it doesn't happen. So
don't do it. There's my thoughts. Anyway, I'd love to
(18:06):
hear yours, because I know there is so much around this,
so many different opinions. Should they have been sanctioned points?
This is the right way to go for slow overrate?
Or is it just an over extension and petty when
you look at the length of test cricket full stop?
What does this do for you? Let us know, oh,
(18:27):
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Twenty five minutes after seven still to come on the program,
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heavyweight boxing.
Speaker 9 (18:46):
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Speaker 1 (18:58):
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Speaker 2 (19:11):
Sports Talk on News Talks AB or eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty lines are open, whether they should or
shouldn't have been sanctioned or fine. That is one story talk.
This new phrase being used in sport putting the fans
at the center of the room. Listening to Greg before,
(19:33):
so it's plainly a commercial activity as well, and they've
got to look after the sponsors. Understandable. If you're putting
the fans at the center of the room and you're
the fan, you're at the center of the room, right,
it's all about you. Do you even care about slow overrates?
Do you get tangled up when you know that things
(19:56):
are slow? You're at the ground, You're tapping your wrist.
What's going hold on? Hold on, no, No, I paid for
more than this. I'm not going to do eighty three
overs and be happy. Time is money. When you're sitting
it home, does it upset your rhythm?
Speaker 8 (20:17):
Because you could.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Say mountain out of a molehill and I know there
are people out here in the building and go look
it's a few overs to us. They don't worry about it.
And then you get to the end of the test
and it's a few overs and suddenly you lose the
game because ran out of time. Then you worry about it.
You can't predict the future. I watch test cricket all
day and there's probably something wrong with me, but I
(20:39):
do and I know when it's slow, and I don't
like it. You've got a job, and your job is
to entertain me. Get out there and entertain me. Standing
around for hours pointing at the field and adjusting this
and tweaking him. It's stop it, stop it entertain me
and I'm not entertained by constant stoppages and breaking No,
(21:04):
I don't want it work for me. We pay your wages, right,
it's a horrible thing to say. Remember salesman who studies
me years ago. You know, don't forget I pay your wages.
You look after the clients. No, I didn't hit them,
but I should have done. But in this case it's true.
It's about fan centric. Put us at the center of
the room. So you. I want to know from you
(21:27):
whether you actually give two hoots or not, whether the
overrate is slow, I care, I may be an outlier.
I don't know. Good day, Chris, how are you?
Speaker 10 (21:39):
Yeah? Good days? Listen to three points. If you lose
twelve hours a day over three to four days and
the game goes five days, it could kill the result.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, that's exactly what Greg Barkley was saying before.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
Yes. And the other thing is Stokes is an idiot.
He wow, he had not the lot, an absolute anguish tosser,
even though I was born here. When he said I
don't care we can't get to the fire of the
World Test Championship, Well, what's that thattitude?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Is that it's terrible? But does that necessarily mean that
New Zealand had to fall into the same track They didn't,
and they didn't have to and they did, so they're
problem not.
Speaker 10 (22:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, yes, you're right they did. I
know the fact that they're bowling four quicks. But does
that mean now that the only time you're going to
get ninety overs in the day is in India when
you're buying four spinners.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Well, I've talked to I've talked to other people crickets.
They look's almost impossible to get ninety overs and in
the day it's actually a lot of overs to get
it in one day. They need more time to do it.
And of course Greg Barkley just told us that it's
finding it ninety overs in just get.
Speaker 10 (22:53):
Amongst all over time, but before your time.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, just a bit. I like saying. I like it
when someone makes me feel young, Thank you very much.
But I think you got your trim bits off the
day's play instead of stand around having a conference in
the middle of the Patriotary captain about how fine your
leg's going to be get on the game. And if
that adds up slowly bit surely a minute, there are
sixty seconds, ninety seconds. Oh wow, we've gone through our
(23:19):
ninety overs. It's a directive do it.
Speaker 10 (23:22):
And but the other thing is asked, they don't care.
They make so much money out of twenty twenty leagues
around the world playing cricket. Now there's over finding them
because they don't care. They're all making they're all making
anywhere between two and ten million of a year.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, and that's what Greg said. We tried fining. That
didn't work, so we're trying to do something slightly more
punitive to see if that works. And Chris, we've got
a fly, plenty of callers on, but thanks for your time,
and it's they still don't care. Let's go to the
text line nine two nine to two zed b z B.
(23:58):
There's a guy that reckons if you start affecting the
game result, then things might change. It's simple, you mow Foes,
writes this character. I won't expand on that. I think
you know Bowllion ninety eight was. It's not very much
to ask. If it was up to me, teams would
lose a wicket per over shortfall. Then you'd never see
(24:20):
a sub ninety over a day again. I guarantee it,
how I reckon? He's right? Hi Allen?
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Yeah, Hi mate? I think the worst defender in the
news team is Tim Souvey. You could just grow across
the savages as cabbages in the time it takes him
to walk back to his mark.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Just a wee bit quicker, isn't It doesn't take much
to make up all you at a time, does it.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
Well? You compare him to the rest of the quicks.
They walk back twice as quick as he does.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
One might put a stopwatch on him and find out.
Do you think it would work? Alan though, if teens
would docked wickets, not Test championship points, not money. But
would that see them hurry out?
Speaker 8 (25:11):
I don't know that. I think the umpires ord to
just put a bomb under Southian people like him that
wander back to their mark and don't send to give
a damn about how quick the game goes.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, the producer and he just talked to my ear
and this has come through on takes as well. What
about a shot clock. I mean they tried using it
in rugby and that doesn't work because none of the
referees can like read a clock. They got no idea,
but maybe that and maybe that's something to do. I
don't know if it's necessary up to the umpire in
the middle to wipe the noses of these players and
(25:45):
wipe their backsides for them.
Speaker 8 (25:48):
Well, no, I agree with that, But I think the
worst example is it doesn't look the slightest interest. I
know that his performances don't them out because he doesn't
look the slightest bit interested. When he's walking back, he's
probably ticking over what he's going to do next, but
he just looks as though he could rather be out fishing.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Well, he will be in about two weeks time. Alan
thanks very much for your call. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
If you'd like to join on everything, he's in isolate
Tim South although Allen did so, just just tim. A
lot of them do it, and it's just incremental and
minute there, ninety seconds there, forty five seconds there. I'll
(26:32):
just change that field. No, you want to come forward
to where you want to go. Oh, I'm a thirsty
all my gloves are wet on my ah. If they
were losing wickets, it had speed up very fast. More
punitive measures will stop this. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
(26:57):
Someone agree, same word. They need to be far more punitive.
They did for no balls or the free hit, and
they drive them up overnight. It's true capable stop the
batters having a change of gloves and a drink every
two hours as well. I already get thirty minutes extra
(27:19):
to allow for missed overs. I mean, how can they
not organize that with an extra harp? And that's a
fair point. Find them their entire match fee. That's some
financial punishment that might work. See a lot of people
climbing on board on text. We're all administrators, aren't we?
It is twenty three minutes to eight coming up next,
(27:40):
Joseph Parker. Explosive Joseph Jurassic Parker. I will leave you
with this thought. Penalty runs five added to the batting
teams score that every over that hasn't been bold see
one way or the other. Runs wickets runs wickets make
it palpable and then it might change. There's news talks
(28:02):
there BM Darcy, thanks for listening. No so Red now
want you to make it you said in mind especially
you know from minutes to eight leaked out a day early.
Result was the same, though. Joe Parker has another crack
(28:22):
at a world heavyweight title in his way. Is Daniel
Dubois seek to go mid late February and Joe joins
us now the former WO champ looking to go one
better with Danny. I trust you well, Joe, welcome to
the show and you are ready for this fight. Huh?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I am very well and it's taken. You know what
was taking me. It was to get a fight, but
with landed with a big one. My last fight was
in March against Jane and it was great to get
that win. And then from then I was just waiting,
a waiting game, you know, I was I was told
there was a fight in September, October, December, but now
(29:03):
we're playing Loft in the big one in February, and
I'm very happy, happy to be lockdown for Fairy twenty two.
It's not only a big fight, but it's a massive
card to be involved in back in Saudi Arabia. So
all this waiting is going to come to it's going
to come to come to an end because there's a
big fighting, big challenge for ahead of us.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
You're always on track after your dismissals of Shag of
Dante Wilder, which is stunning, But to get a crack
now at the world title, is it sooner than you
expected considering what you've been doing, or around about the
right timing.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I feel like it's I feel like it's around about
the right timing, you know, with the Water and Jane fight.
We've always talked about it, not inly myself, but when
I talk, when I say we it's Andy Lee, George
lockout myself. We're always talking about, you know, just doing
the right things at the right time and taking the
right fights at the right time. And we spoke about
(29:59):
fighting for the IBA Championship of the World a year
ago or a year and a half ago, and now
we're here. Now, we didn't know we're going to get there.
A lot of things had to happen, you know, Joshua
had to know, Joshua losing to Dubois and you know,
to beating her convention. All these things had to happen
in order for us to be in this position. So
I'm really aesthetic that we're here and now it's you know,
(30:23):
it's just now. It's just the beginning. It's the beginning
of the journey, because the title was where it's at
on the twenty second of February button to get there,
there's a lot of things that have to happen, you know,
it's hard work, flying to Ireland, leaving the family for
Christmas and New Year's, meeting up of the team and training,
you know, two or three times a day, six days
a week, eating, breathing, and just doing everything boxing.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Joe Parker joins the show. Joe, how hard of a
fight was this to make? I mean, it's not your job.
It's a managerial situation. I expect because it was released early.
I think the news maybe the day before it was
supposed to have been. But difficulty in putting this together
from a management perspective, do you know.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Well, if you know it was it was some putting
any fight together because we've been waiting since April, so
when we had the opportunity, there's a lot of people
working behind the scenes to make this happened, is Spencer Brown,
David Higgins, Andy George, myself and it is It's one
of those things when the opportunity gets given to you,
then you then it's you take it. But then there's
(31:25):
things that happen behind the scenes where you have to negotiate,
You have to get the right terms, you have to
make sure that things are okay, because there's there's it's
not just about this fight, it's the fights after it,
one loser drawer that you have to set yourself up
for after these this fight.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
If you know what I mean, are you gonna try
and punch to Ba in the ice socket? Because it
worked for Joe Joyce. I still remember that fight. It
was brutal the way he fell. Apart is that one
of your clear imprisoned targets, Joe.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Pargett watching those fights and seeing them being susceptible to
those to that spot in particularly, you.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Are gonna you are going to want to aim for
that spot.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
But Dubois and the team that he has now I
think really works while for him. And with each fight
that you had a big baby Miller onto Philip Hokovich,
Anthony Joshua, he's growing in confidence each and every time,
and you can see that in a few of those
fights he has to show to really dig deeper so
grip and determinations get through those hard times in the fight.
(32:28):
So but going back to your question, of course I
want to punch them directly in that spot.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
That's what I want to hear. As far as the
build up and the training, he means you're going to
go back. You've got a massive fight camp. What adjustments
if any, have you made with Andy Lean, of course
your nutritionists who's done so much for you. George Lockhart's
been one of the stars of your camp quite frankly,
But anything adjusted, anything change as far as the build
up for this fight, when you consider how important it
(32:56):
is for the heavyweight strap.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
You know when you're when you're when you're just training
with no fight in front of you, you're just training
with no real goal or overal aim. And And now
that I have an opponent and Daniel Dubra. Everything is
more specific now going into this camp. But by training
since April, I've put on some good weight. I think
it's all muscleway. A lot of people will be to this,
(33:20):
but I think it's all muscle away. I put on
about ten kgs and now it's time for me to
put all of this ten extra ten kgs into action,
and that's to trim down. My endurance is still at
the best. My power has gone up, and I feel
like my ring IQ has grown just just knowing and
understanding and what I'm doing in the ring and why
(33:41):
I'm doing certain trainings schedules each and every day.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
You know.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
So I'm in a great place and I'm really I'm
ready to take on the training camp and put in
the best work for this massive fight.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
And I've been stalking your Instagram. I swear your arms
are bigger than my legs. Now. You've definitely grown, there's
no doubt about that, and I think with your ring
on IQ, this is something you'd treasure over recent times.
You're now pacing your fights particularly well. You know ween
to strike, how to strike, and how that operates with
your opposition, and that's been a huge part of what
(34:14):
you're doing. You're not green behind the ears anymore, are you,
Joe Parker. You're an experienced pugilist, and people thought you
were a journeyman and too old. You're probably hitting the
straps right about the right time.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I feel like I'm hitting into my prime, and I
think with all this experience I have behind me, I'm
able to go into this ring. Not only like you said,
I'm not greeting anymore. I've been in this game for
a while now. But do you know what the best
thing about it is, Darcy. The best thing about it
is that I enjoy it way more now, and I
love it way more now because I understand what I'm doing,
(34:47):
and there's certain things that were introduced now, like holy moly,
if I knew this a while ago, things would have
been different back then. But you learn to appreciate the
journey and what you've been through, the ups and downs,
and it really makes you appreciate the now and what
I'm doing now.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Some eight years ago when you picked up that title.
I don't think anybody can prepare anyone for picking up
the world title when it comes to being a heavyweight
boxer and you were so young then too. Probably if
you knew it now you do different. But how did
that work for you? Was it a shock? Did you
deal with it as well as you could have done?
(35:23):
What lessons did you take that to apply? Because being
chaining of the world at twenty four, so it's a
little on the stream side, Joe.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
So it's very different. You know, we're twenty four years old.
You want to be your whole goal is to be
champion of the world in the sport of boxing. And
then you're doing it for New Zealand, you're doing it
for some or you're doing it for your dad, you're
doing it for your coach Kevin Barry, doing it for
your team. But I didn't really do it. I did
it for myself, obviously, I wanted to do it for myself.
I'm not really fully for myself. Was more for everyone else.
(35:54):
And I think winning the championship of the world at
twenty four as a young age and I'm still I
was still learning, and i was still growing, and i
was still experimenting with life. But now that I'm at
this age thirty two and I'm a father and I'm
a married man, it's very different going into this fight
with standing the bar. I feel like if I had
the chance now to win the championship the world on
(36:15):
the twenty second February, I would I would. I would
treat it very into how I treated it before when
I was twenty four years old. I feel like I'm
a lot more mature now and I will appreciate it.
And my goal is to keep that belt once I win.
It is to keep it and hold on to it
for as long as they can and it It would
be nice to be nice to finish off at the top.
I'm thirty five years old, finish off from the boxing
(36:36):
world at the top of my game, champion of the
world or unified or undisputed.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Well, it was that your target thirty five? You're going
to hang it up regardless are you? Have You given
us a retirement.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Around thirty five, But listen, if I'm dominating, I might
even make it thirty six.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
How does your mate Tyson fiery? He must have responded
really well to that. He must be loving this. Fore,
you're at this all part of your rise and rise
as well. You're good friendship with the Gypsy King.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
He's been very helpful in my career through the ups
and downs and on. My plan is to be there
to support him. In two and a half weeks time,
he's fighting USA for the second time in a rematch,
and I'd love to go over and support him and
back him and see him come on top. You know,
if any man can do it, Tyson Fury can do
it through the things that he's been through the comeback
(37:22):
to it. But he's been really very supportive and I'm
sure that he's very happy for me as well. And
it's imagine that too. You know, we're not brothers, you know,
DNA brothers, but brothers and boxing brothers in life, and
if we could both take over, that'll be truly amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
And this is it I promised the last one. Does
that mean at some stage you might actually fight him
if there's a couple of straps on the line that
you can both pick up?
Speaker 9 (37:45):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I know you seed you would before, But is that
still a possibility?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Never say never? Brother brother against brother, England against New Zealand,
Tyson against Parker.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Never know USO on USO and on that one, Joe Parker,
thanks very much, congratulations, looking forward to watching you do
what you do best and good luck with your diet
of a crystals make that is torture. No more cakes
for you, big man.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Ha haha. Might just have a secret.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
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