February 12, 2025 • 39 mins
D'Arcy Waldegrave returned to wrap this week's sporting news, On today's agenda:
Andrew Hore - Blues CEO - On their 'Pack the Park' season opener
Sean Maloney - Stan Sport Lead Rugby Commentator - On the Australia teams challenging for Super Rugby supremacy.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Waldegrave
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
Good evening of welcoming the Sports Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It's a Wednesday night, Feb twelve, twenty twenty five, coming
up eight minutes after seven.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Welcome to the program.
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Looking forward to you joining on eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. You can text as well ZBZB nine two
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lined up for you this evening, besides myself and yourself.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Towards the end of.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
The program, we'll talk with stand Sport League rugby commentator
Sean Maloney looking up the Australian team's chances.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Ahead of Super Rugby Pacific.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Twenty twenty five. Do they have an Iceberg's chance in Hell?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
And how much more.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Effective will Australian rugby be now that they've gassed the
Rebels and they've pushed the remaining players into the other franchises.
Seawan joins us Ladder on the piece to talk about that.
First up, we go to the chief executive officer of
the Blues. His name is Andrew Hoare looking toward what
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they think it's going to be a huge match coming
up on Saturday night, a replay of the final where
the Blues slapped the Chiefs. What are the presses around this?
How big is this going to be? How many tickets
have you sold? How much? What's in it for the fans?
The list goes on and on and on plenty to
talk about with the CEO, Andrew Hord, and he'll join
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us shortly after that. Will take your calls on this.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
There's been.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Robust debate in and around the office around the excitement
for Super Rugby, some people claiming they're more excited than you.
I've been excited for weeks. You've only just become excited
last week. Therefore I win. My dad's a fireman, my
older brother's tougher than yours. And it was like, oh,
well wait till it starts, I don't know. It could
be good, it could be bad. Where do you sit
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is the hype building for Super Rugby? Can you feel
it in your bones? Can you smell it in the air?
I like your thoughts on that one hundred eighty ten
eighty free foe nationwide, but we're not going to do
that yet. We'll do that after Andrew Whore who will
talk to.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
After this sport today and in sports.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Today, debutantes will be on display in round one of
Super Rugby Pacific. Now Highland is a running seven of them.
Coach Jamie Joseph lays down the expectations.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It was freshies.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Things are going to change in the weekend. There's going
to be different kinds of pressures that we haven't prepared for.
What it comes down to, this guy's just doing the
job and if the guys who do their job well,
this is their their teammates will get selected underd percent.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Don't make any mistakes, don't drop the ball, don't get
red carded. Nottingham Forest's still the toast of the town
after moving to the next round of the FA Cup
exit the city put the frighteners at them, but Robin
Hood's band of mary min got on top, winning in
a penalty shootout.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
It's Williams and.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Notting of Forest are into the fifth round of the
FA Cup.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
They've been taken all the way.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Former KeyWe hardbastard Frank Pritchard thinks Auckland's specific player base
will be.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Perfect for the NRL.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
He's all smiles around, apping an already massive slice of
the pie.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
At these days were forty percent in the NRL, and
I believe the numbers higher in the Soil's Cup in
Jersey Flagg, I think that we sit around sixty percent
of PACIFICA kids in the game, so just imagine having
a teen of this in the NRL.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
The any tragedy has enged forward with the duplicitous British
oil outfit claiming poverty. Halo Sport player agency boss Simon
Porter joined the Husk this morning and says the Brits
probably thought they could easily wriggle out of their commitments.
Speaker 8 (04:18):
They might just be becking themselves that the All Blacks,
being one of the biggest brands in the world, can
just replace them quite easily given what there is to
offer with its based on the jersey and the training jersey.
Except you and going yep, well we've broken the contract,
but you've now got a duty to mitigate.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
You lost beer and it won't end soon or positively
for anyone.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And that's sport today, probin.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
It's after seven more.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Welcome now to the program to the chief executive officer
of the reigning Super Rugby Pacific champions, the Auckland Blues,
Andrew Hoare joins us.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Good evening mate.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Good a.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
How are you very very well and I'm presuming you
are as well. On the cusp of a new season.
First up, you want to fill eating part Andrew? How
many tickets have you sold?
Speaker 9 (05:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (05:01):
Well we're well on the way, reck ahead of we've
ever been for a first game, so we're of our target,
which is fantastic. I've got to take my head off
to the Auckland Rouby Union and North Harbor a re
unions who allows us to have a direct relationship through
to the clubs, which has been great because I've been
able to do some special things there for the clubs,
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which has been brilliant, and really looking forward to welcoming
them and having a big crowd. It sounds like the
Hurricanes Crusader game too is looking good as well, so
definitely some real green shoots here which is fantastic.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Strikes me as strange. You don't have the relationship already
with Auckland and North Harbor. How did that materialize and
why isn't it been there before?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Andrew?
Speaker 10 (05:47):
Oh, the pu's have been fine, but that we generally
operated through the pus. But it's been really good being
able to talk directly and I think that's just part
of the evolution of getting more customer focused and fan centric,
which has been real up for us. It's liberating actually,
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So now looking forward to a great kickoff, I think
we've got a great show in store, pre game and
at halftime, so it should be an action pack night.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You want to fill it out like you got fifty
to fifty to go the twenty ten deal. Talk us
through that one. As far as ticket prices.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, no, we.
Speaker 10 (06:31):
Know that some people have done it really tough at
the moment, and there's also some combo deals out there too,
because the other criticism we had was taking the kids
was also the food, So there's the staff worked really
hard was eating Park and the caterer's eating Park to
get those all up and running. And then yeah, there's
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the ten and twenty buck deals, which is pretty good
value and actually when we've compared it, one of the
best arounds. So we're really delighted with that, and it's
going and creating this momentum as well. If we get
that Barmie night on top of it, and people can
feed their kids and get in out pretty easily, then
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you're halfway there. You're just got to put on a
hell of a show.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
What's changed between the end of last season the start
of this season as far as the way you're looking
after the Blues, the way Super Rugby has been approached,
and not only because it's a new leaf, but of
course you are now the reigning Super Rugby champions.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
How much have you benefited from that?
Speaker 10 (07:33):
Oh, I think that's been I think it's sort of
a monkey off our back in a way. But the
thing we talked about in the off season, Darcy was
the fact that pressure will come in a different way
now and we've got to make sure if we're going
to continue to develop all backs create a gate game,
then we've got to understand that you're most vulnerable that.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Year after winning a championship.
Speaker 10 (07:59):
That's when ultimately you know you're the full crocodile at
the bottom of the river who's just read thing, and
we just don't want to be that. We've got to
be up, vibrant and ready to go. So I think
that everybody had a view after the end of the
season that we needed to really rip into this take
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on this challenge of attempting to go back to back
and and grab it.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
And that's what we've done and.
Speaker 10 (08:27):
Alongside that has started this commission is starting to grow
arms and leagues now to support some of the ambitions
of the club. I think you've seen with the evolution
of the Fantasy League and a proper launch and where
where where some you know, some pretty high profile players attended,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
There's a there's a momentum and it'll built.
Speaker 10 (08:50):
And it is early in the year, but I think
there's I think the staff and coaching staff here have
grabbed hold of this year and and have a point
to prove as much as we did last year.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Andrew Hall, the CEO of the Blues, interesting sounds like
something out of Sesame Street operation. You'll listen to the
fans Super Rugby are listening to you. It sounds like
everybody's aligning and actually are open to ideas and concepts
and constantly improving.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Yeah, there has been there has been a shift.
Speaker 10 (09:21):
There definitely has and I think it all comes down
to the fact that we have a great product, right
we have.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
We are the only competition in this country that.
Speaker 10 (09:29):
Has the world's best talent playing in a week in,
week out.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
That that was a given.
Speaker 10 (09:34):
The high performance part, Yes, there's some rule changes and
things that and even there we had some success last year.
We got a wee bit of a mojo back because
we actually changed some rules in lineberhole. Some people adopted
them not and and so that's that was sort of
the start, if you like. And and as this commission
and as the clubs have have realized around the fan,
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you know, the importance of the fan, and and actually
shifting the pendin a little bit, I think there's a
there's real energy and I think you're seeing a revitalization
of a lot of people that they're seeing an evolution
to this beyond where we've been, which is bloody exciting.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
I've got to say. It's given us a new lease
of life here really has.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Super Rugby specific have said the lovely quote this one
here is putting the fan at.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
The center of the room.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
That sounds like what's going on? So the tweaks and
the changes, the adjustments for the referee and what actually
the interpretations I suppose will on the paddock. What's changed there?
What's improved? Do you think has anything been left behind
that didn't quite work because the constant tweaking is so important.
Speaker 10 (10:43):
Yeah, I think the key thing here, Duarci is there hasn't.
There has been changes slightly an interpretation this year. I
can't remember all the changes that interpreted but not demonstrative
changes that actually confused the fan. So this year is
about getting smoother, better in your processes, et cetera. I know,
for example, that the Commissioner's reviewing with both national bodies
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this year on a Monday. If there's something that has
to be said, they will be transparent, open and saying.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Well, that's a big shift, and.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I look forward to that.
Speaker 10 (11:19):
I think it's those kind of things that the fan
wants to see. They want to be part of the game,
they want to understand what's going on. And look, you
can say sometimes it's corporate gobbedygook that comes out of
these places, but I think there is a real intent
in this group too to vor to be fan first.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
What have you guys done as far as fan and
public engagement, actually getting a message out there, telling people
what's going on, who you are, and what you need
to expect, what they can expect not only quality rugby,
but what actually happens.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Because you've got a.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Big opening ceremony going on, the launch of the championship banners.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
The list goes on.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
But as far as your work with the Blues, what
have you actually done to reach out and can.
Speaker 10 (12:08):
Yeah, well, obviously we had the Big Blue Bus. We
then kill into the start of the year and and
use those platforms, But there's some other things going on
behind the scenes as well.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
All of the clubs.
Speaker 10 (12:21):
We've invested together in a new customer database platform which
is coming on, which is partially online.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
It's sort of one of.
Speaker 10 (12:28):
Those I T things, but it's going to make it
more effective to speak to a customer and communicate with them,
which I think is really really important, and getting that
getting that message out there, making it easy for people
to understand what's going on, and and and the big
thing is accessibility making making and I think speaking to
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your players about their role in this and for those
that monitor and follow our players, I think you've seen
this year shifting them to and from oding the game
and being a part of it, which is which I've
seen before. So there's a there's a even I was
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really pleased with Caleb's comments set down the paper explaining
why he doesn't want to decency.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
No, no, just it's not as focus.
Speaker 10 (13:26):
He doesn't want to get the broad in that, and
that's okay, like we reach their own. There's not many,
but at least he is open and honest about it.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, and we all appreciate it in the media because
without people telling us, we start making up our own stories.
You know how it rolls. And for the record, I've
picked Big Patty two ups to go hard in fantasy rugby,
So tell the big fellow not to let us all down.
And on that, Andrew Horse, CEO of the Blues, thanks
so much for your time. You have a wonderful weeking,
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wishing you the best.
Speaker 10 (13:56):
Yeah, thanks mate, We'll actually see you down there.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
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Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, Andrew Horse, CEO of the Auckland Blues, you see
me down there. The question is am I brave enough
to wear my Crusaders jersey? Or is that just crappy behavior?
Should I wear my Kiwi's jersey or maybe rock along
in a Phoenix jersey. I don't need to know the
answers to those questions. I've already been told by my
protuca just go in normal clothing, you mate, Andrew Horse
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CEO talking about the start of a Super Rugby gets
underway on Friday night. It's been a long hard summer
without any Super rugby to support, been a long hot
summer without any cricket to support either, But there's been
nothing around, and that in itself, you'd think people would
be pretty enthused to watch some competition sport. So my
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question to you is relatively simple. It's very straightforward. You
what Andrew said. They're about the deals, the species they're doing,
changing of the food, the reduction of the ticket prices,
that entertainment and so on and so forth. Really making
an effort to, as they say, put the fan at
the center of the room. Included a bit of fantasy
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rugby in there as well. Here's my question, you're genuinely
more excited. Are you actually going to go this weekend? Look,
there's only two games this weekend in New Zealand. The
Crusaders are hosting the Hurricanes. The Blues are hosting the Chiefs.
This is the start of a season where the finalists
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are repeating their fun well hopefully for the Chiefs, no.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
But for the Blues.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yes, Crusaders are going to show everybody maybe they're not
the drifted that they were washing up in the tides
last week? Are you going to go? Has there been
enough promotion behind the game? Is there enough in you
to think? You know what? Last year was pretty damn
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good and it was some really good rugby Last year
they've made more tweaks. They're running with few of the
laws that they ran with last year that made the
game better. The referees and the touch judges are keeping
their goddamn noses out it for the best part. It's
quick a game, it's a better game. But do you
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think doesn't matter what I think? I'm not the crowds.
I want to know what you think?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Is it enough?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Are you tempted in to watch Super Rugby this time around?
Are you going to get off your lard ass or
your skinny ass and go and check out some Super rugby?
Even though my team aren't playing. I'm sorely tempted to
do so. Sunday night championship team some all blacks playing
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not that far away on the train.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Are you going? Are you going to attend?
Speaker 6 (17:04):
At least?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Are you going to turn up on the TV and
have a look? How amped are you for Super Rugby
Pacific twenty twenty five. I'm looking forward to my weekend
being dominated by rugby again, I've had nothing to do.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Well, that's a lie, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Twenty five minutes after seven Sports Talk here on News
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you looking forward to it? Are you going to go?
What's doing it for you? In Super Rugby Pacific twenty
twenty five, it's got an explain.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Why do I sit in a wait till this gone?
Speaker 11 (17:47):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I'll tell you I got enough, no need for the DMO.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
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Speaker 2 (18:03):
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Speaker 3 (18:08):
Eight sports Talk on a Wednesday evening and Darcy looking
forward to your calls oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty At least are you willing to give Super Rugby
Pacific chance this year? You're going to go in and go,
you know what, out of a crack of a go,
not even going to the actual games, but just sitting
and getting his sky script and watching and going. You know,
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I'm going to start because I think last year was
a very good competition and it's been staggering for a
long time. I'd like to think it'd carry on in
that vein this season. A few little adjustments refinements, if
you will, or talked about those later on, but let's
go to our first quarter on eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Hi, Chris, they does.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
This year?
Speaker 9 (18:54):
So I like watching Super Rugby. I fucking have it.
Oh oh sorry, anyway, bad man. We see them, Yeah,
we see the guys coming through this year. I get
the jersey to the Mixed World Cups. For anyone that
that blooded last year and blooded this year is the
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grooming period for them to come through and be at
peak behavior for the next World Cup. So like last
year and Grater he blooded a few new guys. Now
we're going to think these guys come through and retain
their slash earned them. And I'm really excited to see
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who's going to come out of Super Rugby this year
and come through out of the blue.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Well there's always one or two of guys, isn't there.
It always happens, happened GPC, happens at a Super Rugby.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
Level one hundred percent. So I'm really excited about this
because you know there might be a couple of positions
where I'm thinking, you know, we're not We're not punching
gold like center for example. I mean, I'd rather have
you only on the wing or not there at all.
But a new center might come through and dominate. So
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I'm really looking forward to seeing how the centers and
Super Rugby go from our franchises. And you never know,
there's a start to be born. And we've got plenty
of quality players in New Zealand who can set up
this year and maybe earn themselves a spot in the
World Cup squad.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
So Chris, you're saying that you're interested in the explosion
of young players who will better players toward the All
Black as opposed to Super Rugby as a standalone product.
Speaker 9 (20:53):
Super Rugby is the breeding ground. They do well there,
then they get the opportunity to play international rugby because
you know, you start at the Club rugby, you go
the n PC, and then you go to Super Rugby.
You've got to earn your badge as you go. So
I'm quite happy to think and you don't come through
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because we've got a few guys that in that All
Blacks team that I don't think have lived up to expectations.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
They want to be looking over their shoulder, right, and
this is the perfect opportunity.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
What interests me.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Around what you're saying there, Chris, is if you look
at who do you believe are the two players battling
it out to be the pivot the first five eighths
for the All Blacks this year?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Who are those two players?
Speaker 9 (21:42):
Well, look, that's an easy one that the two people.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
That tell the pot tell me who they are.
Speaker 9 (21:47):
The two people are going to play number ten for
the All Black Yeah, I've got to be Bogy Yeah,
and Damien.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
And where are they playing this weekend?
Speaker 9 (21:56):
They're both playing a full back and that's what I
wanted to go and that's that's where I want to
go to because they're both full backs. So what we've
got to do is at the Auckhand Blues, the Crusaders,
the Hurricane PILs is we've actually got to breed and
bring through ten who are like the proper tens that
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we have had in the past, who are specialist number
three like my one then cut even though you could
play everywhere forget about him, but you know, like stuff
and Fox.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Well, there's opportunity, Chris, and that's what you're saying, and
super rugby gives opportunity, and when you got your two
so called teens that are fighting at playing at fifteen,
you do Wonderchros, we're going to go because we've got
more people online. Well, I just appreciate your time. Thanks
so much for calling in if you want to join
in eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Chris to Chris
Gray made.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Hello, Chris? Two areas Hello Chris.
Speaker 12 (23:03):
Yeah, that's a second No you and.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
I've been talking to a Chris. You're another Chris. Hello Chris.
Speaker 12 (23:11):
Yeah, sorry about that. That's all right, Yeah, yeah, listen,
I'm not over the impressed. You know, you can gloss
it up all the all the record, you can gloss
up see with rugby now, it hasn't been the same
since since the best side in the world for the
last six years of Springboks left. We're almost back to
Super ten, which was the which which was well, actually
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I remember going to a few Super ten games twenty
five thirty years ago. My view is it's the middle
of summer start far too early. I'll probably get mildly
interested in it sometime at the end of March, early April's.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
There's a common complaint, Chris that it starts too early,
but I think we've been complaining about that for two decades.
It doesn't start, It starts when it starts. And I
think the best thing in this time around is there's
no cricket because they decided to give up on that.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
We need to keep.
Speaker 12 (24:05):
That's right, you're right there, Yeah, there's no competing there,
there's no competing. Well, well we have got the Black
Cap playing in Pakistan next week.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Well the Champions Tropa yet absolutely in the middle of
the night.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
But so are you going to get Are you willing
to give it a choice, a chance, or are you
going to wait till it gets toward the more crucial games?
Speaker 12 (24:25):
Gets a bit more crucial games, I suppose. You know,
I think it's pretty flap happy Barbarian seven style rugby
February March. You know, it's not that there's not much
there's not much grunt in it. They're all pretty average. Really,
I think doesn't doesn't excite me at all.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Well, yeah, Chris didn't get any cut through to you
who did it, But thanks very much for your call. Anyway,
people are quite entitled their opinion around this and that
that whole. It starts too early, I find odd because
it's been starting at this time for years and years
and years and years and years and years. You think
we've got bored to that narrative?
Speaker 11 (25:07):
You could I Graham good, How I do I think?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Rayham?
Speaker 9 (25:10):
How?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
I I'm well.
Speaker 11 (25:12):
Great, Yeah, I'm I'm excited. Yeah. I get sick of
people saying it starts too early. I remember in twenty
ten it started on Valentine's Day and that's what fifteen
years ago. It's like it's suddenly made it early. Now
it starts, starts.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
When it starts, just when it starts, it starts being
I don't.
Speaker 11 (25:34):
Think people don't complain about Midsummer football, you know, I
love that. I'm not I'm not trying to get all
football fans right, but people complain about the placement of games.
But well they're not interested, so why bother? That's just
my attitude anyway. I mean, there's been no cricket, you know,
that was terrible, with the teest cricket not having any more,
(25:58):
no tests in January, February March unbelievable. But on the
sleeper rugby, yeah I am. I mean there's obviously a
lot of talk and a lot of people, you know,
pretty good at writing the Crusaders off because of last year.
But I think they should check the team sheets for
Friday's game.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
What they should do is look at the loose forward
tree of the Crusaders and gus they don't break in half.
That is a terrifying six seven eight combination. And I
say that, you know, with a shit slight smile, because
we know that you know, Black has had a terrible time.
That says grace, but Leil Willie, I think I said,
that's a mean six seven eight.
Speaker 11 (26:32):
Combo, that one that is yeah, he Eathan Black added
playing great, and then you got a guy like Cory
Kello off the bench and Tom Christy not even the Yeah,
they got great depths there. And it's only around one.
But you know, I'm very I mean, I think there's
two great Derby's Crusaders Hurricanes here in forty eight hours.
And then the Blues chief the rematch of last year's
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fine off in Auckland, and I think Andrew or you know,
I spoked really well about it the Blue Ceo and
hopefully got two. I think there's two great crowds actually
because I think people go the weathers a bit better
than what it was in January. The weather's sort of
come right here in christ It so, yeah, it's going
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to be great. I feel positive about the Crusaders. Yeah
then here as.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Well as I say, you know, it starts too early
because the nature of the planet and the way it
is developing, it gets hotter later. December's pants now, but
January is too someone doesn't really start. Took God of
February and sleeper. Rugby has an adjuster, but it is
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where it is and it's not going to change. They've
got to fit this into the schedule. And I think
that the whole summer the winter sport argument, I don't
think that argument has much traction anymore.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
The nature of global sport.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Going to Rugby on a Friday night in the sun,
it sounds pretty fun to me, which of course can't go.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
I'm stuck here.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
This is one thing I do like. But I'm interested
when it comes to these returning law innovations as they
call them, and I wonder how well this goes, because this,
to me is key. The TMO referrals are driven by
the on field team, so the TMOS will only intervene
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unprompted if the on field match officials have missed a
piece of serious foul play or a clear and obvious
infringement leading to a try.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I think we all want to see that. Whether we
do or not, it's another question. But I'll be keeping
a bed on.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
That advancement, trust me.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Seven thirty eight Sports Talk on News Talks there B
talk more rugby with our man from stand Sport, Sean Maloney.
What are the Aussies got lined up for US? Five
teams compressed into four? Does that make them a.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
More vibrant proposition? A more threatening proposition?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
We'll find out from Maloney shortly. I got some more
texts if you want to roll them with your calls.
By all means, L eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
has a free phone number if you want to call.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Are you willing to give it a chance this year?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Go on? This is Sports Talk.
Speaker 9 (29:25):
Mercy O the painted of their until Dad it forget.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
For the to come.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Forty two the Sports Look on News Talks there B
show Maloney just around the corner. It's wander through some
texts for you. Now, Wow, what a reactive effort by
the Blues.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
CEO. He didn't mention the elephant in the room. Auckland
f C is scared.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
But Jesus out of him. A big thank you must
go to Auckland FC for showing Super Rugby what.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
They're doing wrong.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Colin.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
That's interesting, but they they are very different beasts. Auckland CITYFC.
Auckland FC are one football team in a city that
hasn't had a professional football team in what seems like decades.
They've got a much smaller ground now they're going to
do well. They're at the top of the table, but
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it's still new and like I hope it carries on
and goes gang busters. But Super Rugby are dealing with
five different franchises right up and down the whole length
of the country and it's been around quite a while.
The need to inject fresh ideas. So I think any
comparison between Auckland FC and the Blues is unnecessary at best.
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This Texas says, I one don't have a live band
beforehand and a half time to get the people going along,
and aren't real rugby.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
People gets sick sixty down there? May you celebrate five times?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
And Peter said fans want home and away games for
every side. You want a hard rivalry, not peripheral stuff.
And I think all of you for your text, including
Doug who's going to wear as charcoal colored Hurricanes jersey
at his local against our rivals, the best way to
start footy, and quite a few people saying hey, I'm
going to the Blues and I'm super super excited. Good
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to hear that positivity. Let's get away from New Zealand
based Super Rugby Pacific and head over to the west
onto Australia.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
We go.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Stand Sports lead rugby commentator mister Sean Maloney joins us.
Speaker 13 (31:36):
Welcome Sean, Hello mate, how I'm hoping I can answer
it for you, and I'm hoping I'm going to say
that you're as pumped as I am with Super Ropey
banging down the door on Friday.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Well, I'm a Crusaders fan, so I can only look.
Speaker 13 (31:51):
Up yeah, yeah, And I used to play for the
war Retards as a kid, so I'm doing the same
thing from further back than you.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Let's look at these from an Australian perspective, because we're
all tied up what's going on over here in New
Zealand with also mo One bussy if Ker and the
Fijian drew it too that there is a small case
of a rather large island to the west that's got
a concentrated set of teams. Now with the demise of
the Rebels, your staff now have been focused into a
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smaller amount. What does that say about the lightly success
for all of the teams representing the Lucky country.
Speaker 12 (32:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (32:30):
I don't want to get too far ahead, because as
you will well know, you can often take a little
while for these squads and these teams and these franchises
to the gel with new players.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
So I don't want to get too far ahead. But
if we just check out the depths.
Speaker 13 (32:45):
Now across each of those four Aussie sides that are left,
it goes a lot further down than it has in
recent years.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
With the exit of the Melbourne Rebels.
Speaker 13 (32:55):
And I think, mate, we're in a great position now
where once we hit that mid point of the year,
once we hit the three quarter point.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Of the year, a few injuries start creeping in.
Speaker 13 (33:02):
We've now got guys who are super rubby level, who
can stay opion and feel those spots, whereas last year,
he is previous, we had guys who just weren't ready
for it. So that's I think that's where we'll start
to see if it's really worked. It's worked, it's magic
around the halfway, the three quarter point of the tournament.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Where's the excitement levels at its highest. As far as
the teams, I know words have been spoken about the
stack nature of the Wartars and the Reds. They seem
to be the favorites amongst Australians. Can you shed more
light on that for short?
Speaker 13 (33:35):
Yeah, and I will by bouncing further south to the Brumby.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
So it's such a weird setup.
Speaker 13 (33:41):
So the Brumbies are the humble perennial winners, right, they
win more than they lose.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
They go bang wwwww, They just get on with it.
They just tradesmen like there's no who are and the
rest of it.
Speaker 13 (33:53):
Whereas the Reds and the g Tars that's where the
majority of Ossie Ruby fans live, That's where the majority
of the numbers watch on from. So there's automatically this
hype attached to the war Retars. And when you throw
in are a lie when you're throwing Tanniel or.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
Two when you're throwing Andrew Kellaway.
Speaker 13 (34:11):
When you're throwing a host of other guys that they've
picked up.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Then the hype gets louder and louder.
Speaker 13 (34:15):
But if they beat the Highlanders on Friday night, Week
two will be enormous for the Tars and then it
just it'll game them into really quickly.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
So Ossie Rugby needs each of those three teams.
Speaker 9 (34:28):
To go well.
Speaker 13 (34:29):
But if the Tars go well, watch it float the
other two alongside and the resil the x time this
year as well.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Man, we know that great last year.
Speaker 13 (34:35):
They play phenomally fun ruby to watch and they've got
a hard edge to them as well.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
So those three sides will head up.
Speaker 13 (34:43):
The fore Ossie teams making up the things on this
side of the Tasmun and it's.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Hard to split that.
Speaker 13 (34:51):
I would narrowly say that Brambi's ahead of the Tars
and the Reds of the moment.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
No means to the fourth thing.
Speaker 13 (34:58):
No, I won't, No, I woodn't dorm at the surface
because when I speak, and there's no way, mate, you watch,
you watch them, you watch the ambush as it's a
home the wish those early games this year right, So
I was over there for the first sevens the other
week where we have that airpic Women's Final.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Between the Aussie Women and New Zealand Women. It was
it was so hot, it was baking hot.
Speaker 13 (35:20):
So that first game Western faces against Mine of PACIFICA,
it's going to be a million degrees over there. And
then you've got the added challenge of visiting teams, especially
from New Zealand through the early part of the year.
It's a fine hour time difference, and they're gonna know
what's going on when they get there.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
We're not going to go what's going on? We try
and watch it either.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
That's another distinct disadvantage. Sure, maloney, it's all sorts of crazy.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I was trying to watch that.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
What's the thought around what happened last year and how
that transfers into this year. You would have heard these
phrases as much as I have put the fan at
the center of the room, let's be fan centric, that's
so on and so forth. Do you think it's accelerated.
Do you believe we're going to get more of the same.
Do you think it's got some tracks?
Speaker 6 (36:08):
I think I don't think that we're going to have
as many blowouts.
Speaker 13 (36:11):
I think that it's going to be tighter for the
duration of the year. I think we've seen the emergence
of the Reds, especially last year, being able to match
it with the New Zealand sides, which makes me think
there's no reason they should about as similar in twenty
twenty five and obviously the task finished with a wooden spoon,
but they took down the Crusaders twice. So there's an
added excitement on this side around Super Arabi because we
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have the benefit of the Wallabies doing what they did
on that screen tool last year and we've got the
lines to come in June July.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
So for the I mean, I'm not going to say
for the first.
Speaker 13 (36:45):
Time a long time, so that wouldn't be true, but
there is there's an added interest level around the game
in the broader sporting community here in Austra at the moment,
and a lot of it too will be drawn and
centered on Joseph Akuso.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Ali mate, he's.
Speaker 13 (37:01):
Dominating all the headlines and he's not even played SUPERABI.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Yet, dominating I'd say Super Rugby Pacific Fantasy as well,
and a lot of people have climbed in the back
of his wagon. He from a coaching perspective, Sean, we
know that Joe Schmidt who worked magic with the Wallaby,
showing that the cattle is there, they just need a
decent coach. He's going come the end of the championship.
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Out of the Aussie coaches, any of them got a
thought patent that they might even get close to that
job through super rugby.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
It's an interesting one, isn't it. So if you look
at the three most likely so look down mccallot at
the Lauritars.
Speaker 13 (37:40):
Who was previously inside Dave Rennie's coaching staff are going
along well and many had suggested that he might have
might even have been his successor to Dave if he
hadn't been unfairly shown the door decision that many of
us still now scratch our heads around. So if Dan
had to stay there, who knows what happened?
Speaker 6 (37:59):
Start indoors only went to lesser.
Speaker 13 (38:01):
He's back with guitars, so we know that he's done
at that level.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
Stephen Larkham, he's.
Speaker 13 (38:05):
Obviously not rugby legend are great and has kept the
brummy sticking along with win after win after win.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
So he's accomplished at a super level. Then let's kiss
is another one.
Speaker 13 (38:15):
Who's drawing a lot of attention because he has had
a previous relationship with Joe Schmidt has got the Reds
firing very similar, I would suggest in terms of personality
as well Le's and Joe Schmidt.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
So who knows, mate, I don't know. I don't know
which one they'll go with it. Warren Gatlin's on the
market now as well as you know So's.
Speaker 13 (38:36):
It'll be an interesting byeline side story, side quest, that's
what I'm for. The side quest, that's what the kids say,
side quest for a number of the Aussie Super Ruby
coaches this year.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I love the fact Sean Maloney, you're down with the kids.
So I got no idea what they're talking about, nor
should I. I need to understand my place in society
and that's the wrong in stand Sport League comments man
Shaw Maloney, always a pleasure.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
I know we'll do it again. You enjoy the launch
of Super Rugby.
Speaker 13 (39:03):
Yeah, let's and it'll be Warreta's Highlanders from the s
A first and I'll see you on the sky your
side of the tasmum.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Indeed, thank you, Sean. Also live on Gold Sport. I
hasten to add if you want to listen to Dulcid
Tones as supposed to watch the Pickies eight minutes away
from eight side quest.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I'm still dealing with Sigma. This is News Talks.
Speaker 10 (39:27):
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Speaker 2 (39:29):
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
It's a Wednesday night, Feb twelve, twenty twenty five, coming
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Speaker 4 (00:44):
Welcome to the program.
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Speaker 4 (01:00):
Towards the end of.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
The program, we'll talk with stand Sport League rugby commentator
Sean Maloney looking up the Australian team's chances.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Ahead of Super Rugby Pacific.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Twenty twenty five. Do they have an Iceberg's chance in Hell?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
And how much more.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Effective will Australian rugby be now that they've gassed the
Rebels and they've pushed the remaining players into the other franchises.
Seawan joins us Ladder on the piece to talk about that.
First up, we go to the chief executive officer of
the Blues. His name is Andrew Hoare looking toward what
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they think it's going to be a huge match coming
up on Saturday night, a replay of the final where
the Blues slapped the Chiefs. What are the presses around this?
How big is this going to be? How many tickets
have you sold? How much? What's in it for the fans?
The list goes on and on and on plenty to
talk about with the CEO, Andrew Hord, and he'll join
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us shortly after that. Will take your calls on this.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
There's been.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Robust debate in and around the office around the excitement
for Super Rugby, some people claiming they're more excited than you.
I've been excited for weeks. You've only just become excited
last week. Therefore I win. My dad's a fireman, my
older brother's tougher than yours. And it was like, oh,
well wait till it starts, I don't know. It could
be good, it could be bad. Where do you sit
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is the hype building for Super Rugby? Can you feel
it in your bones? Can you smell it in the air?
I like your thoughts on that one hundred eighty ten
eighty free foe nationwide, but we're not going to do
that yet. We'll do that after Andrew Whore who will
talk to.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
After this sport today and in sports.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Today, debutantes will be on display in round one of
Super Rugby Pacific. Now Highland is a running seven of them.
Coach Jamie Joseph lays down the expectations.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It was freshies.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Things are going to change in the weekend. There's going
to be different kinds of pressures that we haven't prepared for.
What it comes down to, this guy's just doing the
job and if the guys who do their job well,
this is their their teammates will get selected underd percent.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Don't make any mistakes, don't drop the ball, don't get
red carded. Nottingham Forest's still the toast of the town
after moving to the next round of the FA Cup
exit the city put the frighteners at them, but Robin
Hood's band of mary min got on top, winning in
a penalty shootout.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
It's Williams and.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Notting of Forest are into the fifth round of the
FA Cup.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
They've been taken all the way.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Former KeyWe hardbastard Frank Pritchard thinks Auckland's specific player base
will be.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Perfect for the NRL.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
He's all smiles around, apping an already massive slice of
the pie.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
At these days were forty percent in the NRL, and
I believe the numbers higher in the Soil's Cup in
Jersey Flagg, I think that we sit around sixty percent
of PACIFICA kids in the game, so just imagine having
a teen of this in the NRL.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
The any tragedy has enged forward with the duplicitous British
oil outfit claiming poverty. Halo Sport player agency boss Simon
Porter joined the Husk this morning and says the Brits
probably thought they could easily wriggle out of their commitments.
Speaker 8 (04:18):
They might just be becking themselves that the All Blacks,
being one of the biggest brands in the world, can
just replace them quite easily given what there is to
offer with its based on the jersey and the training jersey.
Except you and going yep, well we've broken the contract,
but you've now got a duty to mitigate.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
You lost beer and it won't end soon or positively
for anyone.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And that's sport today, probin.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
It's after seven more.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Welcome now to the program to the chief executive officer
of the reigning Super Rugby Pacific champions, the Auckland Blues,
Andrew Hoare joins us.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Good evening mate.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Good a.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
How are you very very well and I'm presuming you
are as well. On the cusp of a new season.
First up, you want to fill eating part Andrew? How
many tickets have you sold?
Speaker 9 (05:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (05:01):
Well we're well on the way, reck ahead of we've
ever been for a first game, so we're of our target,
which is fantastic. I've got to take my head off
to the Auckland Rouby Union and North Harbor a re
unions who allows us to have a direct relationship through
to the clubs, which has been great because I've been
able to do some special things there for the clubs,
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which has been brilliant, and really looking forward to welcoming
them and having a big crowd. It sounds like the
Hurricanes Crusader game too is looking good as well, so
definitely some real green shoots here which is fantastic.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Strikes me as strange. You don't have the relationship already
with Auckland and North Harbor. How did that materialize and
why isn't it been there before?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Andrew?
Speaker 10 (05:47):
Oh, the pu's have been fine, but that we generally
operated through the pus. But it's been really good being
able to talk directly and I think that's just part
of the evolution of getting more customer focused and fan centric,
which has been real up for us. It's liberating actually,
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So now looking forward to a great kickoff, I think
we've got a great show in store, pre game and
at halftime, so it should be an action pack night.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You want to fill it out like you got fifty
to fifty to go the twenty ten deal. Talk us
through that one. As far as ticket prices.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, no, we.
Speaker 10 (06:31):
Know that some people have done it really tough at
the moment, and there's also some combo deals out there too,
because the other criticism we had was taking the kids
was also the food, So there's the staff worked really
hard was eating Park and the caterer's eating Park to
get those all up and running. And then yeah, there's
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the ten and twenty buck deals, which is pretty good
value and actually when we've compared it, one of the
best arounds. So we're really delighted with that, and it's
going and creating this momentum as well. If we get
that Barmie night on top of it, and people can
feed their kids and get in out pretty easily, then
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you're halfway there. You're just got to put on a
hell of a show.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
What's changed between the end of last season the start
of this season as far as the way you're looking
after the Blues, the way Super Rugby has been approached,
and not only because it's a new leaf, but of
course you are now the reigning Super Rugby champions.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
How much have you benefited from that?
Speaker 10 (07:33):
Oh, I think that's been I think it's sort of
a monkey off our back in a way. But the
thing we talked about in the off season, Darcy was
the fact that pressure will come in a different way
now and we've got to make sure if we're going
to continue to develop all backs create a gate game,
then we've got to understand that you're most vulnerable that.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Year after winning a championship.
Speaker 10 (07:59):
That's when ultimately you know you're the full crocodile at
the bottom of the river who's just read thing, and
we just don't want to be that. We've got to
be up, vibrant and ready to go. So I think
that everybody had a view after the end of the
season that we needed to really rip into this take
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on this challenge of attempting to go back to back
and and grab it.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
And that's what we've done and.
Speaker 10 (08:27):
Alongside that has started this commission is starting to grow
arms and leagues now to support some of the ambitions
of the club. I think you've seen with the evolution
of the Fantasy League and a proper launch and where
where where some you know, some pretty high profile players attended,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
There's a there's a momentum and it'll built.
Speaker 10 (08:50):
And it is early in the year, but I think
there's I think the staff and coaching staff here have
grabbed hold of this year and and have a point
to prove as much as we did last year.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Andrew Hall, the CEO of the Blues, interesting sounds like
something out of Sesame Street operation. You'll listen to the
fans Super Rugby are listening to you. It sounds like
everybody's aligning and actually are open to ideas and concepts
and constantly improving.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Yeah, there has been there has been a shift.
Speaker 10 (09:21):
There definitely has and I think it all comes down
to the fact that we have a great product, right
we have.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
We are the only competition in this country that.
Speaker 10 (09:29):
Has the world's best talent playing in a week in,
week out.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
That that was a given.
Speaker 10 (09:34):
The high performance part, Yes, there's some rule changes and
things that and even there we had some success last year.
We got a wee bit of a mojo back because
we actually changed some rules in lineberhole. Some people adopted
them not and and so that's that was sort of
the start, if you like. And and as this commission
and as the clubs have have realized around the fan,
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you know, the importance of the fan, and and actually
shifting the pendin a little bit, I think there's a
there's real energy and I think you're seeing a revitalization
of a lot of people that they're seeing an evolution
to this beyond where we've been, which is bloody exciting.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
I've got to say. It's given us a new lease
of life here really has.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Super Rugby specific have said the lovely quote this one
here is putting the fan at.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
The center of the room.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
That sounds like what's going on? So the tweaks and
the changes, the adjustments for the referee and what actually
the interpretations I suppose will on the paddock. What's changed there?
What's improved? Do you think has anything been left behind
that didn't quite work because the constant tweaking is so important.
Speaker 10 (10:43):
Yeah, I think the key thing here, Duarci is there hasn't.
There has been changes slightly an interpretation this year. I
can't remember all the changes that interpreted but not demonstrative
changes that actually confused the fan. So this year is
about getting smoother, better in your processes, et cetera. I know,
for example, that the Commissioner's reviewing with both national bodies
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this year on a Monday. If there's something that has
to be said, they will be transparent, open and saying.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Well, that's a big shift, and.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I look forward to that.
Speaker 10 (11:19):
I think it's those kind of things that the fan
wants to see. They want to be part of the game,
they want to understand what's going on. And look, you
can say sometimes it's corporate gobbedygook that comes out of
these places, but I think there is a real intent
in this group too to vor to be fan first.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
What have you guys done as far as fan and
public engagement, actually getting a message out there, telling people
what's going on, who you are, and what you need
to expect, what they can expect not only quality rugby,
but what actually happens.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Because you've got a.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Big opening ceremony going on, the launch of the championship banners.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
The list goes on.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
But as far as your work with the Blues, what
have you actually done to reach out and can.
Speaker 10 (12:08):
Yeah, well, obviously we had the Big Blue Bus. We
then kill into the start of the year and and
use those platforms, But there's some other things going on
behind the scenes as well.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
All of the clubs.
Speaker 10 (12:21):
We've invested together in a new customer database platform which
is coming on, which is partially online.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
It's sort of one of.
Speaker 10 (12:28):
Those I T things, but it's going to make it
more effective to speak to a customer and communicate with them,
which I think is really really important, and getting that
getting that message out there, making it easy for people
to understand what's going on, and and and the big
thing is accessibility making making and I think speaking to
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your players about their role in this and for those
that monitor and follow our players, I think you've seen
this year shifting them to and from oding the game
and being a part of it, which is which I've
seen before. So there's a there's a even I was
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really pleased with Caleb's comments set down the paper explaining
why he doesn't want to decency.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
No, no, just it's not as focus.
Speaker 10 (13:26):
He doesn't want to get the broad in that, and
that's okay, like we reach their own. There's not many,
but at least he is open and honest about it.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, and we all appreciate it in the media because
without people telling us, we start making up our own stories.
You know how it rolls. And for the record, I've
picked Big Patty two ups to go hard in fantasy rugby,
So tell the big fellow not to let us all down.
And on that, Andrew Horse, CEO of the Blues, thanks
so much for your time. You have a wonderful weeking,
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wishing you the best.
Speaker 10 (13:56):
Yeah, thanks mate, We'll actually see you down there.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
All right, call is your call on eight eight Sports
Talk All on your home of Sports News Talks.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, Andrew Horse, CEO of the Auckland Blues, you see
me down there. The question is am I brave enough
to wear my Crusaders jersey? Or is that just crappy behavior?
Should I wear my Kiwi's jersey or maybe rock along
in a Phoenix jersey. I don't need to know the
answers to those questions. I've already been told by my
protuca just go in normal clothing, you mate, Andrew Horse
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CEO talking about the start of a Super Rugby gets
underway on Friday night. It's been a long hard summer
without any Super rugby to support, been a long hot
summer without any cricket to support either, But there's been
nothing around, and that in itself, you'd think people would
be pretty enthused to watch some competition sport. So my
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question to you is relatively simple. It's very straightforward. You
what Andrew said. They're about the deals, the species they're doing,
changing of the food, the reduction of the ticket prices,
that entertainment and so on and so forth. Really making
an effort to, as they say, put the fan at
the center of the room. Included a bit of fantasy
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rugby in there as well. Here's my question, you're genuinely
more excited. Are you actually going to go this weekend? Look,
there's only two games this weekend in New Zealand. The
Crusaders are hosting the Hurricanes. The Blues are hosting the Chiefs.
This is the start of a season where the finalists
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are repeating their fun well hopefully for the Chiefs, no.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
But for the Blues.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yes, Crusaders are going to show everybody maybe they're not
the drifted that they were washing up in the tides
last week? Are you going to go? Has there been
enough promotion behind the game? Is there enough in you
to think? You know what? Last year was pretty damn
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good and it was some really good rugby Last year
they've made more tweaks. They're running with few of the
laws that they ran with last year that made the
game better. The referees and the touch judges are keeping
their goddamn noses out it for the best part. It's
quick a game, it's a better game. But do you
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think doesn't matter what I think? I'm not the crowds.
I want to know what you think?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Is it enough?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Are you tempted in to watch Super Rugby this time around?
Are you going to get off your lard ass or
your skinny ass and go and check out some Super rugby?
Even though my team aren't playing. I'm sorely tempted to
do so. Sunday night championship team some all blacks playing
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not that far away on the train.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Are you going? Are you going to attend?
Speaker 6 (17:04):
At least?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Are you going to turn up on the TV and
have a look? How amped are you for Super Rugby
Pacific twenty twenty five. I'm looking forward to my weekend
being dominated by rugby again, I've had nothing to do.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Well, that's a lie, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Twenty five minutes after seven Sports Talk here on News
Talks eb oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nineteen nine
two zbzb That is the text line, get amongst Are
you looking forward to it? Are you going to go?
What's doing it for you? In Super Rugby Pacific twenty
twenty five, it's got an explain.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Why do I sit in a wait till this gone?
Speaker 11 (17:47):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I'll tell you I got enough, no need for the DMO.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
We've got the breakdown on Sports Talk call oh wait
hundred eighty News Talks by.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Big this card Sun by myself.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Eight sports Talk on a Wednesday evening and Darcy looking
forward to your calls oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty At least are you willing to give Super Rugby
Pacific chance this year? You're going to go in and go,
you know what, out of a crack of a go,
not even going to the actual games, but just sitting
and getting his sky script and watching and going. You know,
(18:31):
I'm going to start because I think last year was
a very good competition and it's been staggering for a
long time. I'd like to think it'd carry on in
that vein this season. A few little adjustments refinements, if
you will, or talked about those later on, but let's
go to our first quarter on eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Hi, Chris, they does.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
This year?
Speaker 9 (18:54):
So I like watching Super Rugby. I fucking have it.
Oh oh sorry, anyway, bad man. We see them, Yeah,
we see the guys coming through this year. I get
the jersey to the Mixed World Cups. For anyone that
that blooded last year and blooded this year is the
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grooming period for them to come through and be at
peak behavior for the next World Cup. So like last
year and Grater he blooded a few new guys. Now
we're going to think these guys come through and retain
their slash earned them. And I'm really excited to see
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who's going to come out of Super Rugby this year
and come through out of the blue.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Well there's always one or two of guys, isn't there.
It always happens, happened GPC, happens at a Super Rugby.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
Level one hundred percent. So I'm really excited about this
because you know there might be a couple of positions
where I'm thinking, you know, we're not We're not punching
gold like center for example. I mean, I'd rather have
you only on the wing or not there at all.
But a new center might come through and dominate. So
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I'm really looking forward to seeing how the centers and
Super Rugby go from our franchises. And you never know,
there's a start to be born. And we've got plenty
of quality players in New Zealand who can set up
this year and maybe earn themselves a spot in the
World Cup squad.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
So Chris, you're saying that you're interested in the explosion
of young players who will better players toward the All
Black as opposed to Super Rugby as a standalone product.
Speaker 9 (20:53):
Super Rugby is the breeding ground. They do well there,
then they get the opportunity to play international rugby because
you know, you start at the Club rugby, you go
the n PC, and then you go to Super Rugby.
You've got to earn your badge as you go. So
I'm quite happy to think and you don't come through
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because we've got a few guys that in that All
Blacks team that I don't think have lived up to expectations.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
They want to be looking over their shoulder, right, and
this is the perfect opportunity.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
What interests me.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Around what you're saying there, Chris, is if you look
at who do you believe are the two players battling
it out to be the pivot the first five eighths
for the All Blacks this year?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Who are those two players?
Speaker 9 (21:42):
Well, look, that's an easy one that the two people.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
That tell the pot tell me who they are.
Speaker 9 (21:47):
The two people are going to play number ten for
the All Black Yeah, I've got to be Bogy Yeah,
and Damien.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
And where are they playing this weekend?
Speaker 9 (21:56):
They're both playing a full back and that's what I
wanted to go and that's that's where I want to
go to because they're both full backs. So what we've
got to do is at the Auckhand Blues, the Crusaders,
the Hurricane PILs is we've actually got to breed and
bring through ten who are like the proper tens that
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we have had in the past, who are specialist number
three like my one then cut even though you could
play everywhere forget about him, but you know, like stuff
and Fox.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Well, there's opportunity, Chris, and that's what you're saying, and
super rugby gives opportunity, and when you got your two
so called teens that are fighting at playing at fifteen,
you do Wonderchros, we're going to go because we've got
more people online. Well, I just appreciate your time. Thanks
so much for calling in if you want to join
in eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Chris to Chris
Gray made.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Hello, Chris? Two areas Hello Chris.
Speaker 12 (23:03):
Yeah, that's a second No you and.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
I've been talking to a Chris. You're another Chris. Hello Chris.
Speaker 12 (23:11):
Yeah, sorry about that. That's all right, Yeah, yeah, listen,
I'm not over the impressed. You know, you can gloss
it up all the all the record, you can gloss
up see with rugby now, it hasn't been the same
since since the best side in the world for the
last six years of Springboks left. We're almost back to
Super ten, which was the which which was well, actually
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I remember going to a few Super ten games twenty
five thirty years ago. My view is it's the middle
of summer start far too early. I'll probably get mildly
interested in it sometime at the end of March, early April's.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
There's a common complaint, Chris that it starts too early,
but I think we've been complaining about that for two decades.
It doesn't start, It starts when it starts. And I
think the best thing in this time around is there's
no cricket because they decided to give up on that.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
We need to keep.
Speaker 12 (24:05):
That's right, you're right there, Yeah, there's no competing there,
there's no competing. Well, well we have got the Black
Cap playing in Pakistan next week.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Well the Champions Tropa yet absolutely in the middle of
the night.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
But so are you going to get Are you willing
to give it a choice, a chance, or are you
going to wait till it gets toward the more crucial games?
Speaker 12 (24:25):
Gets a bit more crucial games, I suppose. You know,
I think it's pretty flap happy Barbarian seven style rugby
February March. You know, it's not that there's not much
there's not much grunt in it. They're all pretty average. Really,
I think doesn't doesn't excite me at all.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Well, yeah, Chris didn't get any cut through to you
who did it, But thanks very much for your call. Anyway,
people are quite entitled their opinion around this and that
that whole. It starts too early, I find odd because
it's been starting at this time for years and years
and years and years and years and years. You think
we've got bored to that narrative?
Speaker 11 (25:07):
You could I Graham good, How I do I think?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Rayham?
Speaker 9 (25:10):
How?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
I I'm well.
Speaker 11 (25:12):
Great, Yeah, I'm I'm excited. Yeah. I get sick of
people saying it starts too early. I remember in twenty
ten it started on Valentine's Day and that's what fifteen
years ago. It's like it's suddenly made it early. Now
it starts, starts.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
When it starts, just when it starts, it starts being
I don't.
Speaker 11 (25:34):
Think people don't complain about Midsummer football, you know, I
love that. I'm not I'm not trying to get all
football fans right, but people complain about the placement of games.
But well they're not interested, so why bother? That's just
my attitude anyway. I mean, there's been no cricket, you know,
that was terrible, with the teest cricket not having any more,
(25:58):
no tests in January, February March unbelievable. But on the
sleeper rugby, yeah I am. I mean there's obviously a
lot of talk and a lot of people, you know,
pretty good at writing the Crusaders off because of last year.
But I think they should check the team sheets for
Friday's game.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
What they should do is look at the loose forward
tree of the Crusaders and gus they don't break in half.
That is a terrifying six seven eight combination. And I
say that, you know, with a shit slight smile, because
we know that you know, Black has had a terrible time.
That says grace, but Leil Willie, I think I said,
that's a mean six seven eight.
Speaker 11 (26:32):
Combo, that one that is yeah, he Eathan Black added
playing great, and then you got a guy like Cory
Kello off the bench and Tom Christy not even the Yeah,
they got great depths there. And it's only around one.
But you know, I'm very I mean, I think there's
two great Derby's Crusaders Hurricanes here in forty eight hours.
And then the Blues chief the rematch of last year's
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fine off in Auckland, and I think Andrew or you know,
I spoked really well about it the Blue Ceo and
hopefully got two. I think there's two great crowds actually
because I think people go the weathers a bit better
than what it was in January. The weather's sort of
come right here in christ It so, yeah, it's going
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to be great. I feel positive about the Crusaders. Yeah
then here as.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Well as I say, you know, it starts too early
because the nature of the planet and the way it
is developing, it gets hotter later. December's pants now, but
January is too someone doesn't really start. Took God of
February and sleeper. Rugby has an adjuster, but it is
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where it is and it's not going to change. They've
got to fit this into the schedule. And I think
that the whole summer the winter sport argument, I don't
think that argument has much traction anymore.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
The nature of global sport.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Going to Rugby on a Friday night in the sun,
it sounds pretty fun to me, which of course can't go.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
I'm stuck here.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
This is one thing I do like. But I'm interested
when it comes to these returning law innovations as they
call them, and I wonder how well this goes, because this,
to me is key. The TMO referrals are driven by
the on field team, so the TMOS will only intervene
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unprompted if the on field match officials have missed a
piece of serious foul play or a clear and obvious
infringement leading to a try.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I think we all want to see that. Whether we
do or not, it's another question. But I'll be keeping
a bed on.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
That advancement, trust me.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Seven thirty eight Sports Talk on News Talks there B
talk more rugby with our man from stand Sport, Sean Maloney.
What are the Aussies got lined up for US? Five
teams compressed into four? Does that make them a.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
More vibrant proposition? A more threatening proposition?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
We'll find out from Maloney shortly. I got some more
texts if you want to roll them with your calls.
By all means, L eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
has a free phone number if you want to call.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Are you willing to give it a chance this year?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Go on? This is Sports Talk.
Speaker 9 (29:25):
Mercy O the painted of their until Dad it forget.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
For the to come.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Forty two the Sports Look on News Talks there B
show Maloney just around the corner. It's wander through some
texts for you. Now, Wow, what a reactive effort by
the Blues.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
CEO. He didn't mention the elephant in the room. Auckland
f C is scared.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
But Jesus out of him. A big thank you must
go to Auckland FC for showing Super Rugby what.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
They're doing wrong.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Colin.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
That's interesting, but they they are very different beasts. Auckland CITYFC.
Auckland FC are one football team in a city that
hasn't had a professional football team in what seems like decades.
They've got a much smaller ground now they're going to
do well. They're at the top of the table, but
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it's still new and like I hope it carries on
and goes gang busters. But Super Rugby are dealing with
five different franchises right up and down the whole length
of the country and it's been around quite a while.
The need to inject fresh ideas. So I think any
comparison between Auckland FC and the Blues is unnecessary at best.
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This Texas says, I one don't have a live band
beforehand and a half time to get the people going along,
and aren't real rugby.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
People gets sick sixty down there? May you celebrate five times?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
And Peter said fans want home and away games for
every side. You want a hard rivalry, not peripheral stuff.
And I think all of you for your text, including
Doug who's going to wear as charcoal colored Hurricanes jersey
at his local against our rivals, the best way to
start footy, and quite a few people saying hey, I'm
going to the Blues and I'm super super excited. Good
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to hear that positivity. Let's get away from New Zealand
based Super Rugby Pacific and head over to the west
onto Australia.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
We go.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Stand Sports lead rugby commentator mister Sean Maloney joins us.
Speaker 13 (31:36):
Welcome Sean, Hello mate, how I'm hoping I can answer
it for you, and I'm hoping I'm going to say
that you're as pumped as I am with Super Ropey
banging down the door on Friday.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Well, I'm a Crusaders fan, so I can only look.
Speaker 13 (31:51):
Up yeah, yeah, And I used to play for the
war Retards as a kid, so I'm doing the same
thing from further back than you.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Let's look at these from an Australian perspective, because we're
all tied up what's going on over here in New
Zealand with also mo One bussy if Ker and the
Fijian drew it too that there is a small case
of a rather large island to the west that's got
a concentrated set of teams. Now with the demise of
the Rebels, your staff now have been focused into a
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smaller amount. What does that say about the lightly success
for all of the teams representing the Lucky country.
Speaker 12 (32:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (32:30):
I don't want to get too far ahead, because as
you will well know, you can often take a little
while for these squads and these teams and these franchises
to the gel with new players.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
So I don't want to get too far ahead. But
if we just check out the depths.
Speaker 13 (32:45):
Now across each of those four Aussie sides that are left,
it goes a lot further down than it has in
recent years.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
With the exit of the Melbourne Rebels.
Speaker 13 (32:55):
And I think, mate, we're in a great position now
where once we hit that mid point of the year,
once we hit the three quarter point.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Of the year, a few injuries start creeping in.
Speaker 13 (33:02):
We've now got guys who are super rubby level, who
can stay opion and feel those spots, whereas last year,
he is previous, we had guys who just weren't ready
for it. So that's I think that's where we'll start
to see if it's really worked. It's worked, it's magic
around the halfway, the three quarter point of the tournament.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Where's the excitement levels at its highest. As far as
the teams, I know words have been spoken about the
stack nature of the Wartars and the Reds. They seem
to be the favorites amongst Australians. Can you shed more
light on that for short?
Speaker 13 (33:35):
Yeah, and I will by bouncing further south to the Brumby.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
So it's such a weird setup.
Speaker 13 (33:41):
So the Brumbies are the humble perennial winners, right, they
win more than they lose.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
They go bang wwwww, They just get on with it.
They just tradesmen like there's no who are and the
rest of it.
Speaker 13 (33:53):
Whereas the Reds and the g Tars that's where the
majority of Ossie Ruby fans live, That's where the majority
of the numbers watch on from. So there's automatically this
hype attached to the war Retars. And when you throw
in are a lie when you're throwing Tanniel or.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
Two when you're throwing Andrew Kellaway.
Speaker 13 (34:11):
When you're throwing a host of other guys that they've
picked up.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Then the hype gets louder and louder.
Speaker 13 (34:15):
But if they beat the Highlanders on Friday night, Week
two will be enormous for the Tars and then it
just it'll game them into really quickly.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
So Ossie Rugby needs each of those three teams.
Speaker 9 (34:28):
To go well.
Speaker 13 (34:29):
But if the Tars go well, watch it float the
other two alongside and the resil the x time this
year as well.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Man, we know that great last year.
Speaker 13 (34:35):
They play phenomally fun ruby to watch and they've got
a hard edge to them as well.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
So those three sides will head up.
Speaker 13 (34:43):
The fore Ossie teams making up the things on this
side of the Tasmun and it's.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Hard to split that.
Speaker 13 (34:51):
I would narrowly say that Brambi's ahead of the Tars
and the Reds of the moment.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
No means to the fourth thing.
Speaker 13 (34:58):
No, I won't, No, I woodn't dorm at the surface
because when I speak, and there's no way, mate, you watch,
you watch them, you watch the ambush as it's a
home the wish those early games this year right, So
I was over there for the first sevens the other
week where we have that airpic Women's Final.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Between the Aussie Women and New Zealand Women. It was
it was so hot, it was baking hot.
Speaker 13 (35:20):
So that first game Western faces against Mine of PACIFICA,
it's going to be a million degrees over there. And
then you've got the added challenge of visiting teams, especially
from New Zealand through the early part of the year.
It's a fine hour time difference, and they're gonna know
what's going on when they get there.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
We're not going to go what's going on? We try
and watch it either.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
That's another distinct disadvantage. Sure, maloney, it's all sorts of crazy.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I was trying to watch that.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
What's the thought around what happened last year and how
that transfers into this year. You would have heard these
phrases as much as I have put the fan at
the center of the room, let's be fan centric, that's
so on and so forth. Do you think it's accelerated.
Do you believe we're going to get more of the same.
Do you think it's got some tracks?
Speaker 6 (36:08):
I think I don't think that we're going to have
as many blowouts.
Speaker 13 (36:11):
I think that it's going to be tighter for the
duration of the year. I think we've seen the emergence
of the Reds, especially last year, being able to match
it with the New Zealand sides, which makes me think
there's no reason they should about as similar in twenty
twenty five and obviously the task finished with a wooden spoon,
but they took down the Crusaders twice. So there's an
added excitement on this side around Super Arabi because we
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have the benefit of the Wallabies doing what they did
on that screen tool last year and we've got the
lines to come in June July.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
So for the I mean, I'm not going to say
for the first.
Speaker 13 (36:45):
Time a long time, so that wouldn't be true, but
there is there's an added interest level around the game
in the broader sporting community here in Austra at the moment,
and a lot of it too will be drawn and
centered on Joseph Akuso.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Ali mate, he's.
Speaker 13 (37:01):
Dominating all the headlines and he's not even played SUPERABI.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Yet, dominating I'd say Super Rugby Pacific Fantasy as well,
and a lot of people have climbed in the back
of his wagon. He from a coaching perspective, Sean, we
know that Joe Schmidt who worked magic with the Wallaby,
showing that the cattle is there, they just need a
decent coach. He's going come the end of the championship.
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Out of the Aussie coaches, any of them got a
thought patent that they might even get close to that
job through super rugby.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
It's an interesting one, isn't it. So if you look
at the three most likely so look down mccallot at
the Lauritars.
Speaker 13 (37:40):
Who was previously inside Dave Rennie's coaching staff are going
along well and many had suggested that he might have
might even have been his successor to Dave if he
hadn't been unfairly shown the door decision that many of
us still now scratch our heads around. So if Dan
had to stay there, who knows what happened?
Speaker 6 (37:59):
Start indoors only went to lesser.
Speaker 13 (38:01):
He's back with guitars, so we know that he's done
at that level.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
Stephen Larkham, he's.
Speaker 13 (38:05):
Obviously not rugby legend are great and has kept the
brummy sticking along with win after win after win.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
So he's accomplished at a super level. Then let's kiss
is another one.
Speaker 13 (38:15):
Who's drawing a lot of attention because he has had
a previous relationship with Joe Schmidt has got the Reds
firing very similar, I would suggest in terms of personality
as well Le's and Joe Schmidt.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
So who knows, mate, I don't know. I don't know
which one they'll go with it. Warren Gatlin's on the
market now as well as you know So's.
Speaker 13 (38:36):
It'll be an interesting byeline side story, side quest, that's
what I'm for. The side quest, that's what the kids say,
side quest for a number of the Aussie Super Ruby
coaches this year.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I love the fact Sean Maloney, you're down with the kids.
So I got no idea what they're talking about, nor
should I. I need to understand my place in society
and that's the wrong in stand Sport League comments man
Shaw Maloney, always a pleasure.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
I know we'll do it again. You enjoy the launch
of Super Rugby.
Speaker 13 (39:03):
Yeah, let's and it'll be Warreta's Highlanders from the s
A first and I'll see you on the sky your
side of the tasmum.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Indeed, thank you, Sean. Also live on Gold Sport. I
hasten to add if you want to listen to Dulcid
Tones as supposed to watch the Pickies eight minutes away
from eight side quest.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I'm still dealing with Sigma. This is News Talks.
Speaker 10 (39:27):
It'd be.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Hino. Youreful for more from sports talk.
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