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February 20, 2025 42 mins

D'Arcy Waldegrave returned to wrap todays sporting news - On the agenda:

David Moffett - CEO of the South Island Kea NRL Bid 

Joe Parker - Heavyweight Boxer - Ahead of his IBF title fight this weekend. 

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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That's what we want to do. We prefer your voice
lost to talk about and a couple of interviews for
your joy as well. Toward the end of the program,
Joseph Parker. Jesus took a while and wrote this guy
and trust me, but I managed to get him. Joe Parker,

(01:18):
the former WBO Heavyweight Champion of the World Heavyweight boxer
fighting this weekend in Sadie is Daniel Dubois. That's for
the IBF Heavyweight Strap. And then on to there maybe
just maybe sick, but let's worry about that later. First up,

(01:39):
a small matter of Daniel Batoire. You trust me, Dubai,
it is not small. We'll talk to Joe about that,
the preparation, how he's feeling, what he's changed, what his
expectations are, and so on and so forth. Joe Parker
toward the end of the show up first, CEO and
chairman of the South Island at KRE Rugby League bid.
You're one of the many consortiums who think it's a

(02:02):
good idea to get their hooks into the NRL the
competition for another team over here in New Zealand's David
joins us talking about well, there was a very interesting
piece today in their Herald Trip mcn X, CEO of
the Warriors, talking about the arm wrestle between Cameron George

(02:24):
and other bids in New Zealand, suggestion that maybe one
New Zealand Warriors are sabotaging. They don't want a secondary
team purely because it will get in the way of
what they're doing. Truth is in that no one does know,
but it's worth a discussion. Are they actually interested in
growing the game? Are they blocking? Are they stopping what

(02:47):
a secondary team here in New Zealand actually be good
not for the Warriors but for rugby league in general.
We'll talk about that David Moffatt shortly and then we'll
take your course. Like, are the Warriors they got a
monopoly now over rugby league here in New Zealand you
never hear of means really the Kiwi play for now
and then, but they're kind of You hear more about

(03:08):
Fox memory than you do about that. But the Warriors
too powerful here in rugby league and New Zeeland? Do
they need to have this singular grasp on rugby league
with the NRL? Is it right? Is it fair? Should
they be called out for it? Or does it even matter?
I'll get your thoughts on that our eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty. We're going to go to David Moffatt shortly,

(03:29):
Joseph Parker later. But before any of that, guess what
s today in sports today? Black Cabs opener Will Young
slapped the Sentry against Pakistan in the first Champions Trophy match,
along with the resurgent Tom Latham, with whom Young shared
a brilliant century partnership and a very brutal Glenn Phillips.

(03:55):
The New Zealand cricketers were just they were just too good.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
The games in the balance at that point at one
hundred and forty odds for three after thirty overs, I
think it was.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
And then from there we had a platform to launch
from and obviously.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
The way that Tommy and mngp finished and it's was
just brilliant.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
It was.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Indeed, Crusado's first five eighth to Hakamara is in full
bromance mode. James O'Connor has called on the most naturally
gifted pivot he's worked with, and Taha is inhaling the
Aussies mentorship and compliments as well. I'm sure.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
Oh, he's just feal.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
He's my time, his time, and he takes a lot
of time.

Speaker 6 (04:31):
Out of his day to help me out.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Whether he's playing on the bench or not even playing
at all.

Speaker 6 (04:34):
He's he's almost putting me before himself.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Nice up Manchester City's wreckage of a season that's continued
after being bounced out of the European Champions League and
they've been well slapped around the head and face three
one in the Second League. It's a real Madrid for
a six to three aggregate defeat in the ripper charged round.
Manager of Pep Guardiola was dignified in defeat them.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
They deserve to go through. We didn't deserve. With you,
the Mecca is the frasierder.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
With you the MEKA a good champion league a season
and accept it in faith for next season to be
here again.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
And the warren has spoken Gatlan. The freshly ousted former
Welsh Ruby coach Regancy might not be done on the
international scene. I experienced in terms of preparing for World Cups.
I'd be excited by something like that. You know, there's
that's probably just not jumping back into the into the
fire to quite so. So I need it. I need

(05:31):
a little bit of a bit of a break, wo
sack of a punishment and that's sport today. David Moffatt
now CEO and chair of the South Island of Kia
Rugby League, but in RL joins just now around the Warriors,
around the various organizations that attempted to climb on and
basically the Warriors are they are they playing a blocking

(05:56):
role anyway? Talked to David about no. David David moffat
good evening.

Speaker 7 (05:59):
Mate, good evening, dark, How you doing.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I'm doing very well. Interesting story today in the herald
Trevan McEwan from former cel as it goes off the
Warriors writing this down about the Warriors, about are the
Key and other expansion teams coming through? Suggestion here is
that the Warriors are probably more interested in looking after
their patch than they are for the good of rugby
league in this country. Is that a fierce statement, do

(06:25):
you think, David?

Speaker 7 (06:26):
I think it absolutely is. You know that what have
they done in the last twenty five twenty seven years,
whatever it is, they've by any measure, I mean, I
think they managed to get to a Grand Final once,
but outside of that, you know, and it's still happening,
then they just don't perform on the field. For them
to suggest that there shouldn't be another team in New

(06:46):
Zealand shows that they don't have any knowledge about the
game in this country and they actually don't have much
knowledge of our sport because all they need to do
is look next door at what's happening with the with
the AFC, the Auckland Football Club and the amount of
interest there is because of this rivalry they have built

(07:07):
in with with Wellington Phoenix, and it would be even
more than that with rugby league. You know what do
we enjoy our rivalries here in New Zealand, and there's
no bigger rivalry between Auckland and christ Church.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
It's not well the Warriors, though it looks like actively
blocking or being heard to be blocking this. Do you
understand from their point of view that they are looking
after their patch and they see that as being something
that is rightly theirs. If you're a ce, are you
be doing the same thing, wouldn't you? David?

Speaker 7 (07:44):
I don't think so, mate, because I can understand that
if you've got another team it'll actually make you perform better.
But then again, I think I think this guy who's
running the Warriors comes out of a racing background, which
actually is a monopoly. Racing is a monopoly both in
Australia and in this country, and he's now trying to
actually maintain a monopoly that I said, he's done nothing,

(08:05):
that they've done nothing with for twenty five years. They
started coming down here and playing an odd game down here,
but that's all. You know. My view is that you know,
we would most likely show them up if we got
a license, and you know, I have no doubt that
we would certainly get them to improve their own organization

(08:28):
because let's face it, it's hardly fit for purpose. We
actually want, fervently want the Warriors to be successful because
whilst ever they're unsuccessful, the NRL says, oh, well, look
New Zealand, you know, hasn't got enough talent, even though
fifty percent of the players playing in the NRL come
from this part of the world and the Islands. I mean,

(08:48):
you know, so we want them to be successful, but
they're not.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
There's a number of consortiums looking to climb into this
and have this second franchise, but there's been nothing from
the ARL. Has there come a time when something like
the lights of the care and so and so forth go.
We've gone as far as we can. We're besting a
head against a brick wall. They don't want us know more,
because you've been very insistent, but there's nothing come back
that almost suggests like you're wasting it time.

Speaker 7 (09:15):
Well, yeah, we could be, but we're not a group
of people that are going to give in. You know,
we are doing this for one reason only and that
is for christ Church. You know, we are a city
that has come through some horrific times, you know, with
the earthquakes, and the city is being rebuilt and it's
it's going to be a great city and the council

(09:36):
are doing a phenomenal job and so therefore we're doing
this for christ Church, the city and also rugby league
fans in the South Island. I mean, we've got we've
got access to two covered stadiums in the South Island
because we'd take a game or two down to Dunedin
and what what sort of stadiums are they playing up
there in Auckland will be it'll be twenty years before

(09:56):
they get a decent stadium up there the way they're going,
and you know, we're already, we're ready to go. We're
fit and ready to go. Does and yeah, we're not
going to give it. What I've said is, look, we
understand where you're at, but if you want to reopen
negotiations and discussions, then we're here and we're ready to

(10:18):
go at a moment's notice.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
I think they should be able to have to reapply
for their license. So it's actually a battleground you can
both engage in because to the man of Born, they
do have this license and it looks like they're not
going to let it go. Is there a thought process
here that maybe they shouldn't hang on to it forever.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Well.

Speaker 7 (10:36):
I actually suggested the other day in the media that
perhaps it's about time they were asked to reapply for
their license and to see how they do under those conditions,
and then put conditions upon keeping a license, you know,
I asked myself. I thought was an interesting question. Is
there any sunset clause on any licenses for any of

(10:58):
the clubs or are they there in perpetuity or until
one of them might go broke or whatever. Yeah, I
mean I think that's a very valid question. But anybody,
I think who is taking the view that the Warriors
owners and management are taking at the moment that they

(11:19):
don't want any other team in New Zealand. I mean,
I don't give us stuff about or They can look
after Auckland, they can look after the whole of the
North Island. But we are a very proud rugby league
community down here and it's growing.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Sorry, the growth of the game obviously is important from
a New Zealand perspective as well as opposed to just
the growth of one club. Do you propose to help
with the growth of the game as opposed to maybe
just looking after your own interests?

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Well?

Speaker 7 (11:45):
Absolutely, We've already made contact with numerous of the islands
and you know, if we were to get a get
a license, we would immediately get involved with the other islands,
some Tonga, the Cook Islands, you know, to get that
stuff going there. We want to become like Penrith, We

(12:08):
want to become a net exporter of talent into the
NRL and that's something that we've been very clear on.
But I think you know, it's all about people looking
after their own interests. And let me make this point
as well. Rugby in New Zealand is a little bit
on its knees at the moment. And if ever rugby

(12:30):
League the NRL wanted to take on rugby in this country,
they shouldn't be waiting another five years because rugby will
get it back together eventually. We're starting to see a
little bit of a change in the way the game
is played, certainly in the Northern Hemisphere, and I don't
think that bodes well for us, but they are starting
to move the ball about a bit more than we've

(12:51):
been seeing in the last twenty years.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Have you had any contact with the Warriors. Does it
even come into the equation at all? Does it matter?

Speaker 7 (12:59):
I know it doesn't matter. I'd actually don't want to
talk to them. I just want to be, you know,
a bur under their saddle cloth. I want to develop
a real strong rivalry from day one, because that's what
I mean. And the NRL should be bending over backwards
to develop this rivalry between Auckland and christ Church. Where

(13:19):
is the natural rivalry between P and G and anybody
or the Western You know, they'll say, oh, the Bears,
but you know they haven't got anywhere near the following
that they claim. But then the biggest natural rivalry, it's
almost and it's sort of state of origin like would
be between the North Island and the South Island. And
it's a bit frustrating when you can't seem to get

(13:41):
that message through.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
It is the National Rugby League though, isn't it. Surely
they need to look after their own interest and they
need to go to Western Australia as opposed to going overseas,
and maybe that's why they're reticent to actually give anyone
the time of day when it comes to your proposals.

Speaker 7 (13:58):
And I've actually said that to my guys and to
other people. It is their competition. It's an Australian competition.
But I think that by having another team over here,
which let's face it, I mean it's closer to get
to here than it is to get from from Sydney
than it is to get to Perth, you know, and
Papua New Guinea for example. We're just across the ditch

(14:22):
here and the players won't have to live in a
compound in christ Church. You know, it's one of the
safest cities that I've ever been, I've ever lived in,
and you know, we've got a so much going for us.
But it's their decision and I and I it's not
what am I saying is there. It's the NRL's decision.

(14:43):
It's not Auckland's decision, which they seem to think it
is right, and it's definitely not their decision.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
And finally, David Moffatt, CEO of the Southland Kabird for
the ner and we all watch, I thank you for
your time. How much of us say, do you think
the Warriors have gotten this? If any, they probably shouldn't,
but you suspect that is there maybe some power game
being played for on them about their position.

Speaker 7 (15:09):
They shouldn't have a say at all, you know, they
well they'll have a say along with all the other clubs,
and they will go to the other clubs and they'll say, well,
what do you think about this bid? The clubs will say,
what's in it for us? And that's fair enough. We
can't compete with sixty million dollars that's going to go,
or six hundred million dollars that's being put up by
the Australian government, or even one hundred and fifty to

(15:32):
two hundred million dollars being put up by the Western
Australian government. We can't compete with that. And but what
we what we can compete on is the future of
the game, the number of kids and are playing the game,
and women playing the game. I mean, you know, where
do most of the women playing in NRLW come from.

(15:52):
They're coming from this part of the world, you know.
I mean, so we've got all an actual fact our bid.
We said we would put a team into the NRLW.
This would be a world first in any sport. We
said we would put a team went to the NRLW
before the men's team, a year before the men's team,
whenever that would take place.

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Speaker 2 (16:33):
Kia Rugby League get bid to want to get another
team as part of the NRAL in New Zealand. We
know this conversation has been going on for a very
very long time and every few weeks someone else because
I have to go, I'll have to go. The latest
one was Mana Pacifica. We've also had Orcove moved from
Wartington to christ just try and launch a bid down there.

(16:55):
Now this situation with the Warriors and whether they're blocking
expansion in their own interests because on the facehood, if
you look at it, and we all due respect to
New Zealand Rugby, we don't really hear much from them,
do we. Les's the key We are playing great, that's

(17:17):
about it. Arl have gone particularly quiet that there's all
sorts of internal ruckus going or that place, even though
the Fox is a fantastic competition. But rugby league in
New Zealand is the Warriors. That is it. That is
the shop window, it's the whole shop. It's a department store,

(17:37):
is everything. So if you're running the Warriors, and they
can protest all of they want, and that's fine, you're
quite entitled too. But if you're running the Warriors, you're
going to protect your patch. You're going to defend it
for all of your worth. Surely, all of the NRL
merchandise here is Warriors. That's it. If you're a rugby

(18:00):
league fan in New Zealand and you support a home team,
there's only one team to support, you go to buy
a Warrior's duty. All the expat Australians, all those expats,
well the expat is zell on zossies now unless they're naughty,
which case they can send home in a box. But
they all buying Warriors. So you think of it this way.
You're the CEO of the Warriors, You're the boss. That

(18:21):
is your job. Your remit is to make this a
successful franchise. Beyond rugby league and success in rugby league,
it's about financial success and traction. How much money can
we make because that is the modern world. We've got
this unhealthy obsession with how much money we can drag
out of it for ourselves, right, So they're doing it.

(18:42):
So I fully understand, even though they might say, I
know he's an ten to fifteen years and where we
don't think maybe the structure's right up. Ah, No, know
what they're saying is we've got a monopoly club and
we're not let anyone coming anywhere near it. And there's
no way that we're going to aid and a bet
that why would they? Of course they wouldn't. But is

(19:06):
this good for rugby league here in New Zealand? Is
it good to have in essence a monopoly? So I
understand what they're doing. I find it odd to say, oh,
they need another fifteen years. I say absolute called bs
on that. You look what the Auckland franchise and the

(19:26):
A League has done. You just turn up, you pump
some money to have a go. You've got it, You've
got a market, you can do it, you can make
it work and a local derby two teams will be amazing.
We're already spoken about how good that would be. It
was that fierce competition, that rivalry with the Phoenix and
Auckland's amazing. We want that, we'd all like to see it.

(19:50):
But I understand why the Warriors don't want it because
dev cornered the marketplace. They've ring fence that it's theirs.
Why would they open anyone else to it to dip
their fingers in their money bin? Insane? So do you
believe that's the case. I think they are and I

(20:11):
understand why they're doing it. They want to be the voice,
they want to be rugby league here in New Zealand
and don't want anyone else buying on. And is that fair?
Do you think that's the case. I have a problem
with it. I mean, do what you want. It's your franchise.
Not exactly comfortable with it, but it is what it is.

(20:32):
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Speaker 2 (21:17):
Past seven sports Stolf on Newstorms AB started up till
two in the morning last night watching the first things
of the cricket, I couldn't help myself right, brilliant, So
good to see Lathan playing like that, utilizing the skilled
sweep that he possesses. As I mentioned last night, I
thought the biggest problem that Pakistan were going to have

(21:39):
with themselves are dealing with the pressure from the crowd,
from the fact that their hold of major tournament at
home first on what thirty years, and their own pressure.
I didn't think they can handle and they didn't last
ten overs. They squashed themselves with it. The amusement on
the face though of the bats out there was quite good. Anyway,
back to rugby League, I like, Craig, how are you yeah? Good?

Speaker 6 (22:01):
Made?

Speaker 2 (22:01):
How are you not so bad? What's on your mind?

Speaker 6 (22:04):
Made?

Speaker 10 (22:04):
I'm just seen to that mister Muffett talk about christ Church.
I'm wondering whether they've got the right sales pitch because
he mentioned the Phoenix, and yes, the Phoenix strove and
strove to become a club in the soccer. Meanwhile, Auckland

(22:25):
won a World Club Championship still couldn't get in. They
had to do some reconstruction in their thinking and then
they finally got in. Now it's no good sitting back
saying that the North Sydney is not good for this,
and Papua Newgan is not good for that, and West
Australia is not good for that, and we're going to
bring the Island boys in. The Island boys already in mate,
they're in rugby League New Zealand right up to their.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Eyeballs from the South Pacific and Australia. Good on them.
That's the way it goes. A nice place, that's dead right.

Speaker 10 (22:56):
But I'm actually talking about immediately in New Zealand and Auckland.
They may be a bit selfish in their attitude, but
I heard the same selfish attitud when he said we
couldn't give a stuff what Autand's doing. That's exactly what
they're saying, we don't give a stuff what CHROs Shoots
is doing.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
I suppose Craig when you look at it and Cameron
George is like, well, it's too early. We need fifteen
years team, fifteen years. You know, you've got to build
structures that da da DA Dada. Now, that might be
right in his eyes, but when I look at I think, well,
of course you don't want them starting up because it's
going to start chipping into what you've got, and you
have a rugby league monopoly in this country and there's

(23:35):
not a problem with it.

Speaker 10 (23:36):
I think fifteen years is ridiculous. I think I've been
rugby league all my life and I'm seventy two years
old nearly, and I believe i'd like to see cross
Stitts in there tomorrow. I'm not saying don't bring cross Shoots,
and I'm saying I think they need a different spiel,
a different game plan or something. It's no use just
bagging who's here to try and get them the door yourself.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Well, I suppose it's difficult because they don't want to talk,
and that's what that's overarching. We've talked about this six
months now. The RL don't want us. They've got one
team that'll do. They've got one team that's the focus. Inner.
I'm thinking, Okay, the Warriors are our team, they're our representative.
That's easy enough to deal with them. I don't want
another team involved in that. We've got all we want

(24:20):
out of this this one stop shop. So they've just
ignored everybody and that's it's muffleder. How long before you
guys realize that they don't actually want you.

Speaker 10 (24:29):
It's going to be it's going to be very tough, mate,
because once there's two teams working out of this country,
they could risk that trophy and become owners of.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
It the Jersey sales would have and I think that's
the financial problem that the Warriors have got, because that's
you don't want to be giving money away to people
when you've already got a fenced off patch that's entirely
yours to do what you want with. Anyway. Coming George
CEO of the Warriors here, he is well for us.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
We've never said expansion into New Zealand isn't right there.
Opportunity over here for sure and certain, but it's the
timing of that opportunity. To give you an example, the NRL,
as I understand it, have people employed for the NRL
working in the Northern Territory. They have no one working
in New Zealand to grow the game. We're the shop

(25:22):
front window. Our message to the NRL is, if you're
looking at New Zealand as an expansion opportunity. Absolutely, it's
an opportunity, but it's going to take five to ten
years of investment in the local game, so they're better
off to go twenty and thirty five is the third
team and that'll be in New Zealand. But between now
and then we are investing and grow on the game

(25:42):
and taking over that country and we can help them
with that. But it would be devastating in my view
if if they threw one down there now and they're
sending all their teams over with us to play in.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Australia and we can help them with that, and we
can help them with that ten years, maybe longer. I
don't know their capability is actually to do this and
the NRL's come over and do that. Why why isn't
the Indian Rugby League doing that? Why? Anvil? Why does
that have to be the Warriors stand alone franchise and

(26:16):
love Jersey sales? Goodhad Derek? How are you?

Speaker 10 (26:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (26:19):
Could I mate? Yeah? The last time I actually called you,
I actually was after an interview did you did with
common Mansbridge from down in the christ Church And this
is a very similar type of interview I thought, because
I don't know what it is down in Crystach what's
in the water down there. But just because they're getting
a brand new flash stadium built, it doesn't mean all

(26:40):
of a sudden they can they can walk around with
their chests out down there and start telling everybody how
great they think they are. First of all, let's get
one thing straight, and I wish David Moffatt was still
listening now that I'm on here. That is a tax player.
That is a taxplayer funded stadium. And if you look,
as you know anything about commercial reality in New Zealand,
eight of all taxes in New Zealand come out of Auckland.

(27:03):
So we're paying for eighty percent of that that stadium.
And once that stadium's built, it's going to be brand
new and shiny. That's great, But then they're going to
have to find naming rights. They're going to have to got.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
The naming right. The one have already got the naming rights,
and the citizens of christ Church have got a massive
race builder cover it, so it's not entirely Auckland doing it,
you know.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
And they're also going to need something other than a
super rugby franchise which only plays three months of the
year to actually fill it up now. Obviously the Phoenix
might go down there for one game and the first
year Auckland might go down there for one game. But
in the end they got to think about their season
ticket holders, you know, when you come into a big
season at which Auckland are looking like a real player

(27:47):
at the moment. But David Moffatt came across really is
a bitter man. The way he was talking about the Warriors,
it almost is like he was jealous of what they've
achieved now in the last couple of seasons. I mean
last year they didn't even have a great season on
the field, they sold out every single match and their
sale of their jerseys here and over the Tasman was

(28:08):
going through the roof and we're seeing that now with
the Auckland City sc team as well. It's just been
off the field they've been brilliant so.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
But granted, but really what's happening with the Warriors And
they're business people, I get it, do exactly this, you
keep your market, but they've got a monopoly and they've
got a singular hold on NRL, which is rugby league
in New Zealand because the key we hardly exist. It's
all Warriors. They're not going to relinquish that or give
that up for another team. We want to climb on board.

(28:37):
They'll lose out their jerseys, they lose at all, so
of course they're not going to let it go. And
I'll say we need development this when you've got the whatever. No, no,
you just don't want anyone on your patch. And I
get that. I don't know if it's entirely digestible, but
that's what they're doing.

Speaker 6 (28:51):
Right, Yeah, it is, obviously, and we see it in
the We see it all the time when we go
through the winter season. When you have a look at
the write ups and the papers are on the websites
comparing Super Rabi with NRAL, there's always a always a
slant that Super Rugby is better because you know, obviously
the New Zealand journos are protecting their patch, you know.

(29:12):
And it's been going on for a long time as well,
and you see it all the time. But at the
end of the day, look, Auckland, we pay for everything
in this country and we get a hard time from
the rest of the country. And I'd just like to
see Darcy and I'd like to have somebody to ring
up from Christ. Yes, I'd just like to hear people
be a little bit more grateful for what we do
up here in Auckland with our taxes financially for the

(29:33):
rest of the country. I mean, maybe a minute or
a couple of minutes applause at the start of every
Crusader's game once the stadium starts. I reckon that would
really go down well up here in Auckland, just to
let let us know that we're appreciating.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, and I think Derek and thank you very much
for you coy to stick around. Joseph Parker is up next.
But it's like all black money that they generate, that's
for all of rugby. It's not just for them. Taxes
that Auckland generate is for the whole country. We're all
part of this together. It's not just about you. And
if all come on to take that attitude that we

(30:07):
make eighty percent of our cash, so we're going to
not give you away anything. We'll keep the hydro power
fair right, produce most of it, so we'll keep it
all more. Of course, next though it had an eighty
ten eighty Joe Park around the corner as well. It's
New Zealand money for New Zealanders, Tennessee, Sevybody Tavy Sports Talk,

(30:38):
Joseph Park around the corner. Figuratively, of course, let's get
back to the phone calls Gooday, Mark, what have you
got for us? O?

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Good Warriors were a grunted exclusive twenty year rights in
five at the commencement of their participation in the competition.
Get expired ten years ago, ten years ago, so it's
be a game. Look, a Turkey isn't going to vote
for an early Thanksgiving. So Cameron is completely compromised, and.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
As he should as a CEO, that's what he should
be doing, completely.

Speaker 10 (31:13):
Understanding he should.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
He should actually be thinking about growing the pie, the
overall total pie and his share of it. That's what
he should be thinking about. You bring in another team
based out of the South Island, which is obviously the
probably the fit given what they're offering. Who's going to
buy the jerseys immediately? Better local supporters. Then it will
spread if they're successful to the wider region. They'll have

(31:39):
fans up here.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Ideally the pie grows.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
Maybe it does grow. Currently the Warriors are a bit
of an unusual anomaly, and the fact that they do
have such outstanding Jersey sales and merch sales and the
fact that wearing Warriors gear is associated with and also
an identity of being a Warrior supporter. But in Australia

(32:07):
you're a key with that. It gives it gives you
that that identity and that association back home, which is
a great look. Means you're part of that wider club
that NRL. The conversations can worry you imagine the banter
back and forwards in the workplace with rather a fans.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
It's a good thing market is and I think that, yeah,
we want to expand that. Part of the short term
it's like, oh, we don't want to give anyone any
of our money, Josh, how are you well you don't
take our jersey property?

Speaker 6 (32:35):
Hey? You man?

Speaker 11 (32:36):
Hey, I could imagine part of the Warriors trouble is
the branding because you've got I know, we probably talked
about this before New Zealand Warriors and as soon as
anyone else comes in, well you're not the New Zealand
Warriors anymore. You're going to have to be the.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Josh. Does anyone really think that I hear this all
the time, and I think people know Auckland, New Zealand
it's the Warriors. That's what people know it as the
war I don't think what are the prefix you attached
to it means any difference.

Speaker 12 (33:12):
It's just, you know, because they're not a they're a
club club team, they're not a national team. You don't put,
you know, object with that with the Breakers. So I
don't like the idea of New Zealand Breakers. It's Auckland.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (33:26):
But we'll say that for another day. But I wanted
to ask you do you know anything about you know,
there's a salary cap within the fielding team, plus reserves,
plus you know, the extras. I think it might be
a thirty man team. But is there actually any any
salary cap for the lower tiers of that?

Speaker 1 (33:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
I don't know. I think that they're not competing at
that high level. There probably isn't. They've probably got X
amount of funds that they want to distribute and they
don't want to throw what little money they've got around
the lower grades. But I don't know, Josh. I'll find
out for you. I really will. Still there news talks
it be as this text to point it out, are

(34:11):
the NRL a lot more interest than trying to get
Trump to come to their game. Now are in any
New Zealand expansion, That's where their heads are right up there.
Joe Parker coming up next when I catch the fight
coming up on Sunday, huge card Joe Parker versus Danny Dubois.
The Zone's got that coverage, get in get a monks
this month.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
And seeing it's been a.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Eleven minutes to eight, Joe Parker joins us now ahead
of huge fight in his career, apparently as a jentlemin
who's pastor but now who is on the cusp of
picking up a world title strap up against Daniel Dubois.
That is on Sunday morning from Reyard. If you'd like
to watch it, you can to Zone. That's where you

(34:57):
will find that pay perview for a stacked fight card.
And Joe joins us now. Joe Parker welcome, So well,
how's your mental space for this mega fight?

Speaker 4 (35:07):
You know, the energy in camp is relaxed, calm and happy.
And I think the reason why it's said this and
the approach to going to the flight is relaxed and
calm because of all the work that we've done. And
when you've done the work, it also works on your
mental side of things. You know, when you've ticked all
the boxes, you've eaten well, you've trained good, you've rested good,

(35:29):
you've said spent good time with the family, and there's
great balance in life going to the fight. There's no
real worries, there's no real doubts. It's just about gathering
all this energy that we were spending camp and putting
it all on fight night.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
On Saturday night, you've changed your hours some what you're
waking up, getting out of bed very late and going
to bed at some ridiculous hour in the morning to
chune yourself for fight night. How long does it take
to get used to that brand new rhythm?

Speaker 3 (35:57):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (35:57):
We have been here for about two and a half
weeks now, and as soon as we got here, we
were straight onto that schedule, which is sleeping around six am,
up at one pm, breakfast at two pm. So the
whole day is shifted for the three weeks that we've
been here, and I think that's when it's fight time
and we're fighting around twelve for eighty one o'clock in
the morning. We'll primed them ready for that time, and

(36:19):
I guess it's worked for us in the past, and
that's why we're doing it again.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
What about other things that have worked for you in
the past. We know that i'd say a change box,
a bit of much more mature box are now both
physically mentally and your tactics too. But is anything tweaked
over the last couple of years that you would like
to either carry on with or maybe upskill if you
will ahead of this, because you've been pretty inactive for
quite a while. I think it was Jang was the

(36:45):
last time you fought Joe.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
In activity and then you fix you. I think if
you're not living your life and I probably listened, it's
probably God's plan to give me your rest so I
don't get injured. You know, I was busy the year
before that, having five fights in nearly a year, So yes,
I didn't want to take this long break, but I
was sort of forced to because your new fights and
no opportunities. But it probably gave me a bit of

(37:07):
rest and my body to recover, and it's been able
to be able to work on combinations, technique, work on endurance,
work on you know, just strengths. Are as many things
I've been able to work on our time off. A
lot of people worry about ring rust, but I don't.
I don't worry too much about it. I think I've
been living a life where I've just stayed in shape

(37:31):
and worked on all these things and working on perfecting
our game plan.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
You're pacing Joe in your last couple of fights has
been top notch. You've not been in a hurry, You've
not been boxing in a reactive manner. If you will,
you appear to be marching to the beat of your
own jump. That that won't change.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
I do know what this fight, I really have to
left my game though, for since fighting Daniel to buy
the champion of the world, who you know, is very
confident in himself, and I think with these results that
he's gotten, he's going to come full of confidence be me,
you know, be me and wanting to prove that he
is the champion of the world. But compared to Jang

(38:09):
and Walda, he throws a lot more punches, and he
phraws a lot of them, nearly all of them more power.
So I definitely to lift my game for this one
and really be on point when I'm in the ring.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
So is it a case of just like not getting
hit I mean your defensive game.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Listen, that's that's yeah, it's that easy, like hit and
don't get hit. It's easy to said than done, though,
you know, when you've got some ferocious chasing you down
the ring, every corner to every bit of rope and
he's just trying to smash you up. But the thing
is with this fight, if I let him have his way,
it's going to be an easy knoight for him. But
I need to give him something to show some respect,

(38:45):
and I need to remind him that it's not really
an easy fight or walk over fighter. This is a
tough thing for you.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
You've been playing an interesting mental game. Joe Parker is
Dubai has been talking about reunification. This is a couple
of weeks back now, and you're like, hey, you've got
to fight right in front of you. If I was you,
i'd focus on that. I'm presuming the carrying along on
the same line very can't but saying, don't get a
head of yourself, mate, this is a serious scrap.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Listen, there is a serious scrap. Anything can happen in boxing.
But do you know in boxing they're always trying to
you know, they're always trying to match up other fighters
for the future and match up and make bigger fights,
you know. But it's very important to look at the
in front of you and focus on that because if
you don't get this right, or me, me or him.
If we don't get this right, there's no point thinking
about what're talking about future fights. So the time is now.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
You said he's going to deliver a lot, He's going
to have a high hurt rate. Do you expect to
take it to him? I not stand back. Are you
going to get to the middle of the ring and
dance with the bloke?

Speaker 4 (39:43):
Yeah, but you have to do it in a smart way.
You can't stand there in exchange because he does pund
a lot of power and you don't want to get caught,
you know, slipping. I think it's just about being being present,
being deliberate and making good movements, but not running away,
if you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
It's a big card. There's a lot of good fights
on it, and I expect the world media very much
focused on yourself and Daniel and all of the other
fighters too. How's that been in the focus. You've been
to Saudi Arabian riard before, but you really are the superheroes,
aren't you of this big event? Is that easy to
deal with now you've done it a few times before

(40:23):
the intense attention.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Yeah, you know what, once you've done it, you've done it.
Like once you've done it once, you can do it again.
And yes, it's nice to be back in Saudi Arabia
because we've had great success here in the last three
flights that we've had here, and it's familiar. We're very
familiar myself, and it's familiar with this place and it
served us right in the last three fights. So it's
nice we're here. Like I said, for the last two

(40:45):
and a half weeks, we've settled and gone on a
good program and I'm just ready ready to go out
there and put them a good performance and give it
my best shot.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
You sound very calm, Joe, and that to me is
a very positive sign. But this is something you've learned
over time that you can't get too carried away. Don't
want to fight your fight before you've fought it.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Oh yeah, you don't want to listen. You don't want
to waste any energy being too hyped up or trying
all fighting to fight in your mind or fighting it
just thinking about it all the time. I mean, the
fight's there and it will happen, and it will come
very soon in the next few days. So it just
got to I mean, I think I've been able to
have a lot of fights where I think I've gained
that experience now staying calm, staying come before a fighting,

(41:30):
just letting it all happen when it's time.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
What are the holes? And Daniel Dubois, are there any
gaps in defeat? Are there any tendencies that he has
that you might be able to exploit because you would
have done a lot of work on tape.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Right.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Yeah, he's got a really good double jab and again
he's he's a basic fighter, but he does the basics
very well. And if you let him dictate, if you
let him start off with double jab and follow through
with all these other combinations and punches that your throws,
and it'll give him more confidence in the ring and
you'll keep pushing forward until he catches you clean. So
it's about being deliberate but also countering when he's taking

(42:07):
his shots, just to look for your openings when he's
taking the shots.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
The zone have got the fight pay per view, get
amongst it's a huge card. Joe Parker, as always, thanks
for taking the time and making the time for us
here at News Talk z'b so close, so close to
fight night. Hugely appreciated. Mate. You get up in there
and bang.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Let's get it on. Let's bang bang bang, stop it Joe.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
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Thanks to whatever, I'm for listening on Darcy Water Go goodbye.

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