February 25, 2025 • 42 mins
D'Arcy Waldegrave returned to wrap another day of sports news! Highlights for tonight include:
Former Sky TV chief executive John Fellet on the report that DAZN is negotiating with NZ Rugby.
Talkback - If DAZN took the rugby off Sky, would you switch?
Kiwi Indycar driver Scott Dixon ahead of St Petersburg.
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Toward the end of the show, we'll catch up with
Scott Digson, six times IndyCar Champion's picked up a Indy
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a four hundredth year racing. I don't know how long
this guy's been around. He must be touching core of
a centuries, which ridiculous. In fact, I think he's been
in INDYCA as long as I've been stinking up the
joints here. I believe it. Anyway, So we'll be talking
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thank you guy who hits buttons An's millicice so Scott.
Later on in the piece, the IndyCar Championship starts at St.
Petersburg on Monday morning. Zeal in time Cracker. We're going
to get things running with John flat to x CEO
of Sky Television odd as they come, and I know
(01:38):
that Gregor Paul was on today with Ryan Bridge on
Heather to Plas Yellen Drive Show talking about the chances
of the Zone climbing on and whipping out the rights
of n Z Rugby right from underneath the noses of
Sky Wow. What kind of effect would that have on
SkyTV on the viewing public? Would de zone go further
(01:59):
and maybe buy Sky flatter? I don't know, there's lots
to talk about. I'm going to take your calls on
that situation after John Phillip joins the show, which is
coming up next. But as per before we do that,
let's do this Sport Today and Sport Today, Kayla Clark
is in the hot water, scoring his backside he is
(02:20):
the all black winger rode his minorcycle too fast and
didn't stop with the cops and the laws. Plainly not happy.
Blue Skipper and Patrick three. Potter two has offered support
for his friend and teammates.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
He knows he's made a mistake. He's shown he's sorry
about the options and look, we just got to get
around them. He knows the procedure now and the precess
that has to go through. So being a close friend
and a teammate, I think you can do nothing else
but be beside him and help him to.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I've got to respect the English there that Patty Tuops used.
He said he made a mistake, as opposed to he
made a poor decision, which is kind of pretty standard
this day and age tell it like it is. Carle Jamison, Jamison, Jummerson,
depending on who you listen to. His back and a
black cap, the towering Seema is getting his huge feet
under the desk again. But he loving being back where.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
He belongs, trying to, I guess readjust to what the
subcontinent looks kind of bring as a seema and what
that role looks like. But yeah, like it was, it
was just nice to be back out with the boys
and forget where I left off twelve months ago.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Luke Metcalf has the seven jersey for the War's first
up NRL fixture this year. Assistant coach and former seven himself,
Stacey Jones tells us why he's got a really strong
kicking game and defends really well and he talks really well.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
So you know, it's still relatively young.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It's all go on Sunday for the Warriors as they
take on the Raiders in Vegas, and Joe Parker's manager
David Higgins has revealed a brightest spot in his Chargers future.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
If Dubar Usak happens, there'll be a unified champion and
then Joseph can have a crack at that unified champion
towards the end of the year perhaps, So I wouldn't
be at all surprised to see Joseph Parker have a
go at unifying maybe unified towards the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
They're all terrified of him, and I understand and why.
And that's Sport today coming up eleven past at seven,
that's Tuesday evening, and we're going to talk now about dezones.
You can say a hostile takeover or an offer to
pick up ins are All Black Rights? Maybe takeover Sky?
(04:27):
I don't know. Great story broken today by New Zealand
The heralds Gregor Paul. You want to read more about
it insidherld dot co dot inz is where you can go.
So John joins us now he's the former CEO of
sky TV. Good evening, John, I trust you well, I am.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
I'm good Josee.
Speaker 8 (04:44):
How you doing.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I'm doing very well. Great to have you on board again.
It's been a while. Crazy story today coming out in
the world of sports broadcasting, I suppose of anything. It
says that the sands that are shifting are shifting in
a hurry. Now there's word that the possibility that Dezone,
the big boxing stream who are involved in other sport,
might roll in and pick up All Black Rights, swipe
(05:08):
them from underneath sky TV's nose. How big is something
like this for the sporting landscape here in New Zealand.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Well, it's really hard to predict right now. I mean,
the Zone is a global streamer and the All Blacks
we all love and probably the most valuable sport content
in New Zealand. But even like across the Tasman. You know,
it would be like the fourth or fifth most important
sporting franchise over there. So it's tough to be I
(05:38):
remember when I had when Sky started, we had ESPN
and it would jump from a IX soccer match in
the Netherlands over to badminton and from Indonesia. And so
it was tough to be a global streamer because sports,
something like the squid game works everywhere, but sports with
(06:00):
some rare exceptions you know, Super Bowl or FA World
Cup and that sort of stuff a fecal work up. Sorry,
it's much more localized. The fact that they're talking is interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I would say, well the nature of streaming that landscape's
changed dramatically as well. It's not a brave new world.
It's not so scary as it was when sparking, for example,
turned up. So timing wise, it seems right that the
public will actually engage with this, they understand it.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Yeah, And probably the biggest breakthrough has been practically all
new television sets have a streaming capability built in most
of the key apps. As an example of Television New
Zealand a TVs A plus, just about every television set
you buy will have an app that you can go
to and try it out. I'm sure I'm not seeing
(06:50):
the designe on mine, but my set's four or five
years old. But you know, sixty percent of the people
in the States look at streaming through their smart TV sets,
so and I imagine New Zealand wouldn't be far behind that.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And look through the phones as well, on every devices
possibly gone, So it does start getting very very broad out.
That designer talked before about being This is with Alex
Smith on News talks EB about being the home of
sport in New Zealand. In order to do that, you
have to have the All Blacks, don't you Otherwise you
can't say that.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Look, that's true.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
The All Blacks are number one in first place in
sports content New Zealand, and it's probably no second, third,
or fourth. And then you get to the other codes.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
How valuable is this code to Sky Sport if they
were to lose this, what kind of body blow does
that represent? John?
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Look, it's it's been six years since I ran Sky,
so I don't know all the economics of it now.
But back when when I was there, we had the
Disney Channel and Discovery and you know, thirty semi channels
all the movies, and sport was just part of it.
Now six years later, the movies kind of go directors
(08:03):
streaming to the Netflix and Prime and Apple TV, and
Sky has a great selection of movies, but not as
strong as they were a couple of years ago. And
in some of those channels like Disney and has disappeared
in ESPN. Now you can get from a couple of
different sources. It sounds like from reading so it would
(08:24):
be it would be their most important piece of content
they have right now.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
What the situation Insida find themselves in, we expect because
Spark has now dissipated, it means Sky in a slightly
stronger position playing being there for sex years. So you
don't know, but they are in a position which Well
said that they will lobel. Insida haven't got a choice.
So maybe some of this from Rugby and Z is
(08:50):
a bit of posturing going, well, you better up it
because we've got these guys around the corner. This game continues,
and I suppose it accelerates, it doesn't it.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
You know what I loved about Sky when I'm CEO
there was that it was a poker game that never stopped,
and every day is a new deal and a new
service to go after. Keep in mind you use the
pejority of term low balling. Scott doesn't have as many
subs as they had when I was there, and so
I don't know how they can afford to pay as
much as they did five six years ago when they
(09:21):
did the deal last deal, So.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
It's less of a.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
Low ball and more of the economic realities.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Would they lose subscribers if Sky lost Rugby, you'd suggest
that would also be I use the term body blow.
I'll use it again.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Look, it certainly would you think would damage them, And
that's why they probably pay more for it than any
of the piece of content they have.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
As far as the public concerned and their ability or
they want to move providers. We covered it off before,
but is that more likely in this day and age?
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Look more likely, But there's still if you look at
Sky's churn numbers, there's still that group the population out there,
age and older that really feel quite comfortable with the
deacoda in the my Sky and have had it for years.
And to have them jump right away, I'm not saying
(10:17):
they couldn't do it, but I remember when I was
at Sky, a group called Coliseum got the PGA and
they just got killed. The PGA was had the oldest
audience and you were asking them to, you know, act
like they were nineteen as far as their viewing habits.
And so it's a Sky with a combination of streaming
(10:42):
and also linear, it would probably be in a better
position than just doing one or the other.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
John phillet Form, CEO of Sky, how about this for
an idea? And this has been thrown up as well
with Design now purchasing Foxtel and looking to basically take
that over. If you will sport in Australia, what are
the chances of made be Design rolling and going you
know what will take the whole of Sky? Do you
(11:09):
reckon that's within the capabilities or desires?
Speaker 7 (11:14):
You know, you'd have to ask to them. It certainly
be one sixth the purchase price that that Foxdale was
looking at today's market price for Sky.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So something that would be worthwhile. If you're looking at expanding,
because they've got Australia so to kind of make sense
that New Zealand, maybe you should be a part of that.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Look, there's two ways to make an impact. You buy
a company that has lots of sports rights, or you
start trying to go after sports rights, and you know
the sports rights are typically spread over a four or five.
Sky just got the cricket and so, and I think
that deal was for six years something like that. It
doesn't start for another year by and so you know
(12:00):
you couldn't you can't rule it out. But the Zone
would have a better explanation that I would have it.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
The right call is your call on eight eighty Sports
Talk Call on your home of Sports News Talk zby.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
CEO of Sky from six years ago. He left that
role's names John Filett talking about the situation find ourselves
in today's story Broken by Gregor Paul Rugby scribed scribe
excuse me out of the New Zealand Herald. That design
negotiating with en Z are right under Sky's nose. I'm
(12:42):
holding my breath of that one because that's a smack
in the face. Look, I think they should go and
knock on the door of that Mobray character from zero
and try and sell rights to him. You become a
national hero. Given z are a billion dollars because he's
got heaps of it, and he can just license all
of the all black gear and all the toys he
(13:03):
wants and he'll become a national hero just by walking
out a bit of Money's Wednesday? Are they do you reckon?
Anyone's actually got knocked on the door of that mansion said,
can't give us some coin with the all But anyway,
so insed are negotiating with Sky and now Design have
turned up shifting sands constantly. When it comes to sport
(13:26):
coverage here in New Zealand, expect the unexpected. The only
constant has changed. The list goes on. So my question
out here to you is this the end for Sky.
I don't think anyone wants to see the end of Sky.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
There.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
There'll be a lot of people out there who have
Sky for a number of reasons. And it's not one
hundred sport well, as John pointed out, it's fragmented somewap
because of the streaming services that are out there. When
it comes to I suppose regular terrestrial TV, you can
pick all that up on your apps on your smart TV.
(14:05):
When it comes to move usually got Netflix. Look, the
list goes on. It all comes in a nice, easily
managed home on your top box to Sky. So I
get why it's popular. And of course there's sport, which
I think drives a lot of people, and as John said,
this is possibly the All Blacks their most valuable commodity.
(14:26):
This is what keeps them breathing. They've joined that now
with the Cricket so a couple of staples in New Zealand.
Sport so ends and are enormously important to Sky, enormous
If they lose it, would it be the end of
their story? Is that the final nail? If you will?
(14:50):
Second question? Would you stay?
Speaker 9 (14:54):
Now?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I'm not talking to the hardcore s guy fans who
want to watch Desperate Housewives and whatever else they have
on them, because I don't watch any of that, right,
I got a frown there from producer Milices. I've got
no idea, Yeah, what's on regular tvacause I don't watch it?
Watch sport. The only other thing I watch on my
television is my cat climbs up on it, which is
(15:15):
quite the trick because it's like a low pridefile skit.
It doesn't matter, be quiet, So we'll just stay. If
Sky loses the rights to the All Blacks and the
Super Rugby, would you stay? I mean, finally, would that
(15:35):
finally make you up take streaming? Would you finally go
all right, Okay, I get it. I don't quite understand it.
I'm getting a bit long in the tooth. I really
don't want to know about it, but I have to.
This is the trigger for people to go I'm going
to a streaming service. That's it. I can't do this
(15:56):
top box stuff anymore. O eight one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is at the end for Sky? Would you stay?
And that finally pushed you over the line to get
you involved in twenty first century technology O eight hundred
eighty ten eighty. I'd stick with Sky because they got
(16:20):
sport on. I can't find anywhere else. I'm then I'm
not leaving my gain anywhere. But what about you? How
important is rugby coverage to the future of Sky and
for the future of your subscription? O eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. Lines aren't open. It is seven twenty three.
This is News Talk ZEB. You can call on that number.
(16:42):
You can text nine two ninety two that's z b ZB.
This is sports Talk.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
No need for the TMO. We've got the breakdown on
sports Talk.
Speaker 10 (16:54):
Call oh eight hundred eighty News Talk ZIBE.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Six Sports stock Care on News Talks ABM, Darcy our
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty lines are open nineteen
ninety ZBZB. If you want to text on n I'll
run through some of your texts shortly, but I'm more
interested in your phone calls. Hi, Kevin, what's on your mind?
And welcome?
Speaker 11 (17:26):
Hey, good Evan Darcie a regular regular listener and regular caller.
Hell are you?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I'm very very well, what's what does this mean to you?
This decision? If indeed Desone manages to flog the rugby.
Speaker 11 (17:38):
I've been following kind of a similar situation with the
whole design Fox cell situation as well as I'm kind
of curious. It's like how it's because remember their deal
is subject to the hill see, which is the equivalent
of our commerce commission deals subject to them. But however,
at the end of the day, it would be a
(17:59):
really interesting broad because, as you say, if someone didn't
mention Spark Sport earlier, because it's the game has quite
changed quite a bit since since Spark has come in.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
But hugely right product wrong time. They were just too.
Speaker 11 (18:11):
Early, however, was I'm physically staring at my TV screen
right now as it Right now, I'm staring at at
the official I've got the Oudsie broadcaster of Super Rugby.
I'm actually I'm actual still at their screen their content
right now on my TV. Legally I'm staring at it because,
(18:34):
as I said, i've and I've been pretty surprised. But
the some of the presentation of it, mean, do.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
You keep him with the coverage? Say it does disappear
and suddenly Designer there and Sky no longer has it?
How does that alter your subscription payment, your ability to
stay with Sky? Do you care? Do you run if
they lose the Rugby in essence is what I'm asking.
Speaker 11 (18:59):
Uh maybe maybe not because for the all black Amsters,
but all black Super Rugby. Yeah, but like your NPC stuff,
probably not. It's like a kind of a fifty to
fifty rock and a hard place.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And I'd expect this idea was struck that would have
to include the MPC, which I'm not entirely sure a
lot of people want those broadcast Wise, what about or
what about the idea that they design, roll it and
just buy all of Sky flat out, write a check?
Speaker 11 (19:29):
Or how about I was thinking I had kind of
long thought about it. What about maybe as an alternative
to Zone? What about maybe nine Entertainment, which is parent
the parent of STAN or Paramount, which is the parent
company of Network ten. Over there, maybe who knows, Maybe
throw these throw those two into the into the whole
discussion of what I mean, Well, who knows?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I think design and Kevin, thanks for your call. They've
got a lot of money behind them, and as John
pointed out, you either buy all the separate rights, so
you just buy the whole station and from there what
happened said they get rid of the top boxes and
go that's it there over everybody has to stream like
it's an idea. Let's move on to a next caller.
(20:12):
Dam good evening to you, sir.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, good, good good. Hey, look you know
I've just canceled Sky after fifteen years customer three three moldiboxes.
By the way, they offer you off the years if
you if you try and pull out. But look, they
actually have some new skyboxes that they're released really poor
(20:37):
quality compete with my that's my experience, and actually turned
me off Sky for about three months. So I ended
up turning to my streaming services pretty heavily, to a
point that I realized I didn't need Sky anymore. The
only reason I had it was pretty old blakes for
if one I can get one shrimming on TV yep.
(20:58):
So that leaves to rugby as a problem. I just
couldn't justify the cost of Sky just for rugby. But
I can't get it from a end they say on
skygo or something like that for the important games the.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Most valuable commodity, isn't it. This is what I think
keeps a lot of people with Sky without a doubt.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
The last ten years of the fifteen years was because
of the rugby, and so I think injured are actually
missing a trick by staying with Sky, and they've got
a problem if they continue to go down that route
because the sky TV or the traditional way of TV
is dying and they need to move quickly to give
(21:37):
us good content, good data and a bit more of
an experience and the streaming side of things which they
can do which they can't do as much with SKYK.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I think with the sky an't they changing the way
they broadcast their satellite is kind of at the end
of it's used by date. The changing that look. I've
got the skybox and by and large I've got no
problem with it. I'm still getting used to surfing on
them because it takes me while. I'll look into things,
but I think I'm an outlive because I've got it
(22:09):
because of what I do and how high water. No
one's going to take it off me regardless, So it's
a little different. So Dan, it's curtains for you and
you're unlikely to go back.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
Wow, I definitely won't. And I'm waiting for ends that
are to release a strength of the streaming services from
what I understand.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, but then they can't do it, Dan, because they've tried.
I think that what we've seen with the way New
Zealand Rugby have looked after their content and the way
they've dealt with silver Lake and the way they've attempted
to package up interesting documentaries and drive its life, they
can't do it. I just don't think they're able. They
might be willing. So that's probably another space that wee
(22:49):
can get it too, Dan. So we've got to go.
We've got more calls coming in eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty lines are open. I watched for some texts
for you seen as well today, Hayden. Oh what was that?
So there was a ghost of a musician just jumped
in my ears, Hayden, what's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (23:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (23:06):
With Sky, where else could we get eventhing in one place?
The alternative would be heaving to maybe by subscriptions for
respective sports. If you want to get EPL, he'd become
twenty five bucks New Zealand a month.
Speaker 10 (23:20):
Right.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
So if you want access to things like NFL, NBA,
all the stuff the pafora of sport that's on Sky,
all in one place, good luck. I mean Sky gets
a bad rep, but I think the package they offer
if you think of all the sports that they bought
particallyally amazing. If they were to lose to all blacks,
that would be a down up that I would not leave.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
So watch precisely, there are so much to watch, isn't there.
I'm a bit of a sport addict, so I love
serving around and finding what they've got that, as I said,
different situation, because this is my profession, I have to.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
The thing is, man, I've got this. I've had all
forms of Sky from basic movies, you name it, sports
package and whatever. But I've got the Sky Sports part now,
which is eleven sports channels standard that they add extra
channels things, the coverage of the Australian Open was insane.
They had basically like I think up the eight all
(24:17):
channels crazy service. The service is pretty good man, and
a lot of people complain about sports so it's lagging, lagging,
But you've got to have high speed live, isn't it
to get the service running at optimum level. I would
not be leaving Sky with the lost all let's and
the zone. You know, I follow a lot of the
(24:39):
NFL in the zone walk.
Speaker 12 (24:41):
After a lot of the NFL, and the complaints about
that service and lagging and blackout and taxilation are insane, man,
like you follow the NFL comments pages on bloody social media.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
So we're going to be careful. We wish we're right.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, absolutely, Hayden, thanks very much for your input. One
hundred eighty ten eighty lines are open. The question is
if the rugby goes, do you leave Sky? Is this
the hook that you hang your watching coat on the rugby?
Oh one and eighty ten eighty lines are open and
(25:19):
this is news Talk. Is zed B still to come
in the program? More of you, more of me, more
Texan Scott Dixon, AH seven thirty eight Sports look on
News Talk zed B got a quick text for your life.
Streaming is a pain in the ass. I'm gram. I
think you've got your wires mixed up. Think about it.
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I don't care about sport. They should all be doctors
and nurses. I'm sorry, Paul. I've got no idea where
you're coming from, but thanks for that anyway, Darcy. Nick
Mobray didn't get rich by making bad financial investments. Why
would he invest in a loss and ends at au Steve.
It's really simple. They've got so much money, billionaires, they
don't care anymore. It's just ego, that's all it is.
(26:05):
You look at the billionaires and I'm buying sports teams
and I don't try and dig to the center of
the earth, flight of Mars. What's not about money making anymore.
They've got more money than able to do with. Become
a hero, buy Henza, give it free to everybody, and
you put zero across the front, and everyone of you happy.
It was just an idea. Let's get back to the phones. Hi, Richard,
(26:27):
hell's going good? How are you going.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
Very good?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Nice?
Speaker 9 (26:35):
I was just going out to say I'm a massive
fan of sky yep with using the standard old I've
got the black bots. I think it's cool and the
because I can watch about three sports at once between injury,
bracks and rugby, can flick over to the NRL, can
flick up to the American TV channels, where with the
streaming you've got to go got to load and you've
(26:56):
got to come out and you've got to find the
next thing, where with the skybox you just fluck between
the channels. I can flick up to Fox and books
Philip prumps up to.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
One hundred percent. Understand what you're saying now, I think
that is a huge bonus. And a little black top
box you just flick love it, gotcha?
Speaker 9 (27:15):
Yeah? And also I can flick over to one channel one,
channel three watch the news, and then which isn't you
know something else on the cricket's on? You can flick
back and watch it. I just I don't really get
what people are complaining about. And people say, I think
I've got an extra box. I think I'm paying one
hundred and thirty five bucks. What you can't even go
out for dinner for one hundred and thirty five bucks. Mean,
while I'm in the Formula one and all the Formula one,
(27:37):
all the NFL, most of the base all most of
the base of all all that, you know, it's just
a great product.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Who goes out to dinner these days? Yeah, I get it.
I know what you're saying, and I thank you very
much for your call. And the whole streaming versus top
box is always going to elicit some interesting arguments. This
guy's texting and the same thing pretty much as Root
(28:07):
and you can watch multiple sports of the touch of
a button, which can't do with a streaming service. And
that's a really good point. What you need is to
have both or a TV going and your computer and
your phone. Good day, Scott. How are you?
Speaker 9 (28:23):
Oh, I see I'm going Well, how are you?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I I'm very very happy. What's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (28:28):
Oh? Well, I've been traveling today and I've just heading
back from the airport and I've heard your mention of
the news about his own and what they might do
with nz Are And yeah, it's brought to mind the
fact that I think, indeed, I've got to be careful
because I used to be a great cricket fan, Darcy,
(28:49):
but the cricket, even cricket, seemed to change broadcasters so
many times I lost track of who was broadcasting cricket.
And I couldn't now tell you who was broadcasting cricket
for me watching cricketers, it's no longer an option for me.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Well, Sky I've got it and they've got it back
for another six years. So and I know what you
mean though, that when you go popping back and forth
between formats like I can't do this anymore.
Speaker 9 (29:18):
Yeah, that's right. You've got so many platforms and how
many times do you mention something to someone about what
you're watching and they go, what platforms are on? I
don't know.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
I don't know, and it ends.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
It up to me just don't have a great product.
I saw I'm one of those sky Chat shows at
the balls and play about thirty four minutes, which you know,
it's pretty tragic, and you can see why people just
love NRL. I'm a big NFL fan, have been since
(29:52):
nineteen seventy eight, and I wouldn't if Fred we left Sky,
I wouldn't leave Sky, but I'd stayed because of the
NRL and NFL and.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
That's what we want. Yeah, it's not. And thanks for
your call, Scott on your way home. Not all about rugby,
lots of sport, heeads. It is all about rugby. But
there are other offerings, so maybe not the death now.
Maybe yes, it's a very valuable product. Might be a
(30:25):
relief it's gone on. Let's just say this one hundred
million bucks. We're all right, We'll just keep the formula one.
Let's have a quick chat with Ross and then Scott
Dixon surely go Ross?
Speaker 9 (30:39):
Was that?
Speaker 8 (30:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (30:40):
Here you can see, Hey, I went from the setbox
to streaming on the Sky sky Sport now thing.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
But I believe they've got a TV at now smart TV,
which if you download the Sky up now, you can
then go through each channel channel by channel without re
refreshing at the moment. If you're on a if you're
on Nightpad, you've got a refiche every time it gave
from Sky Sport one, two, three, four, five, whatever, which
(31:15):
I'm in an email l pick thing for work. So
this week, you know, I'm going to and spend some
money on a new TV. But I've just got to
verify that that's what I can do.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I'm pretty sure on my white box I can still
fleck through, but I can't go from streaming back to
that streaming that It still takes some time. It's getting
better and better and better. And this is the nature
with streaming. It accelerates so fast, and when you've got
a fast acceleration technology, you never know, do you what's
(31:44):
going to come up next, what's going to be around
the corner, and how much more efficient it's going to be.
I mean, push comes to shove. We're the fan, We're
at the center of the room. The companies and the
manufacturers they'll do as much as they can to make
it easy as possible for us so they can take
our money. Love being a consumer. Coming up next, Scott
Dixon joins us as we look forward to the start
(32:08):
of Indy Cars. His news talks thereb twelve and half
away from eight. Marcus Lash up after eight o'clock talk
to talk to Scott Dixon. Out at Scott Dixon was
this was the twenty third year angs that we work out. Wow,
(32:29):
crazy crazy still there, six times champion and he's competing again.
Saint Pete starts off on Monday morning and Scott joins us.
Scott Dixon, how you doing.
Speaker 13 (32:41):
I'm doing good man good excited for the new season
to kick off.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Good to hear, always excited. It doesn't matter how many
times you do this. It kicks in, doesn't it all
the time? What is it about?
Speaker 13 (32:52):
Well, I think it's the long off seasons. But you know,
luckily I'm able to do a bit at i'm So
racing as well in sports car stuff with Daytona and
then prepping for for Sebring twelve hour here recently. So yeah,
the off season this year was pretty quiet on the
NY front, with no real testing. Kind of had one
day at Seabrain before we kick off this week. So yeah,
(33:13):
last year we had quite a bit just due to
the fact of the hybrid testing and all that kind
of stuff. So yeah, it's there's been a lot of
drivers sitting around for a little while, so it's good
to get going here.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
What's new this year, if anything at all, when it
comes to the season, when it comes to the series,
when it comes to the car, when it comes.
Speaker 13 (33:31):
To the team. So quite a few changes, mostly on
the team front. We went from five cars back down
to three, which I think is a great move. They've
done a new engineering alliance deal with my Shank Racing,
which they previously had been with Andretti, so it's kind
of five cars. You know, Armstrong is still a teammate,
(33:51):
he's you know, kind of leased out or used out
to shank my shank racing. And then obviously, you know,
being back with an ex teammate, Felix rosen Quest, so
you know, it's quite a great combo. I think on
the car side there's not too much. I think energy
levels change a little bit on the hybrid, you know,
just more usage. I think per lap is kind of
(34:13):
one of the key differences. And then some bigger differences
on the tire front. I think between the you know,
the black or you know, standard tire to the option tire,
which I think is green or red this year will
have a bigger difference, so you know, the softer tire
will degrade a little bit more, but have you know,
kind of a higher peak speed. And then for the series,
(34:34):
you know, a new new deal with the broadcaster with Fox,
which has been fantastic advertising and all the stuff at
the Super Bowl and you know they've been really knocking
out of the park, so you know, all of the
races in America will be on live TV, which is great.
Hasn't been like that for quite a few years, so
that's a big push forward. I think definitely for the sport,
(34:55):
a bit.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
More pressure on you and the team to make sure
you put on a good display.
Speaker 13 (35:00):
That pressure is a waste, man, Pressure is a privilege,
and you know, for us it's just you know, it's
always same mindset, right, You're just going out there to
try and win each race and that will still obviously
with the first one this weekend, but no different on
that front.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Him As far as picking up what last year, if
you had a big off season, you had plenty of
time to think, I'm sure what was the main takeaway
from twenty twenty forty I think for you and Chip
Ganassi Racing.
Speaker 13 (35:27):
Yeah, frustration. I think on the nine car side, you know,
it was still another great year for the ten obviously
going back to back championships, so you know, a championship
year for the team again, which was fantastic. You know,
Alex and the ten Card group did a phenomenal job.
You know, for us, we led kind of the first
half of the season and then and then you know,
(35:47):
we just had issue after issue with tire failure and
then a hybrid failure, and you know, then got crashed
out a couple of races. And as soon as you
get knocked out of one or two, man, you're really
out of the running, and you know, the ten Card
did a fantastic job of having rough weekends and still
turning them into two great points point stays. So you know,
for us, I think the performance was there. We had
(36:09):
some great races, obviously a couple of wins. The win
count for a lot of people. It was kind of
spread last year, you know, for Alex only two race
winds but still won the championship. We had two race wins,
but just didn't really capitalize on the low points. But yeah,
I think for us, you know, definitely a rebuilding off
season and just making sure that we cover you know,
(36:29):
all avenues and making sure that you know, we get
the most out of each session and each race. And
you know, you only need to average kind of a fourth,
fifth or sixth finishing position to win the championship, so
you know, you've got to make the most out of
the bad days.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
The hybrid. Do you think that's settled down a wee
bit to pick much up from last season that when
you had that failure, I'm sure you've jumped straight on
to anything in that space you need to look at.
Speaker 13 (36:54):
Yeah, some of that is frustrating, you know, for us,
they think the first race. You know, it didn't even
make the start pace laps. You know, kind of went
out of the pits and then you know it kind
of got into a bit of a cycle and drained
the battery and then killed the cart. So you know,
those hopefully a little worked out. I think the parameters
and kind of settings, you know a little bit better
to try and stop that stuff. We still actually had
(37:16):
a failure at the one day preseason testing with ours,
so you know it was a high mileage unit. So
hopefully that's a lot of those issues out. But I
think when you add you know, kind of more items
to you know already a pretty you know, a pretty
you know, interesting kind of setup for the car, and
you know all the systems that you have. You just
(37:37):
hope that you know, one of those things don't catch
you out. So you know, a lot of that stuff's
out of your hands. Man, You can't worry about it.
You just got to get after it and make the
most of it and hopefully it doesn't happen to you.
What are you coming up quarter of a century racing?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
This has it got an arter or easier as far
as what happens in the cockpit, not the racing itself.
How do you think it's developed as a series.
Speaker 13 (37:56):
Yeah, I think it kind of you know, it's it's
a bit of a roller coaster. I think some years
are easier than others. You know, championship years, we've really
been on a roll. It's not like you do anything different,
just sometimes it kind of rolls with you. So, you know,
I think the details, it's always been about the details.
But I think more teams. You know, there are no
small teams now, so you know, I think you've you've
(38:17):
really got the capability from just about everybody on the
grid that's going to have a shot at winnings. So
you know, the competition level is much more stout. You know,
the first championship I won back in two thousand and three,
you know, I think I dnf five or six races.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
You know, you wouldn't even be in the play.
Speaker 13 (38:33):
But that was just because reliability was you know, wasn't on,
wasn't the forefront then, whereas you know, you now have
some drivers completing you know, every lap of the season,
which you know, that's what you've got to really do
to make sure that you're in the running for the championship.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
What about the we skid that you have apparently minor
re damage. You weren't hurt, but a bit of a
shake up. Oh the tests. Yeah, the test was like
the way it's completely forgotten about it already.
Speaker 13 (39:01):
Yeah, you move on. The test was a bit rof
We we actually blew the engine on the first slap,
which took us out of running for the first day.
And that's one of your four engines that you get
for the season, so at some point we'll get a
penalty for that, which was definitely frustrating. And then yeah,
had a locked rear with the increased hybrid, you know,
(39:22):
toll on the real axle, rear axle, and then kind
of got in the grass a bit and just tapped
the wall which bent the upper wishbone. But you know,
we were out kind of thirty minutes later. It was
nothing too crazy, but yeah, you know those are those
are some of the things when you're pushing hard that happened.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I suppose it gives you a distinct reminder of the
extraordinarily fine lines that you guys ride every time we're
talking millimeter is at some stage that'll just I suppose
of anything. Not a shakeout. But you look at this
and go, yep, we're right on the edge here. I
can't forget that because you're a reminder, isn't it, Scott?
Speaker 13 (39:58):
Yeah, it does. You know, you got to you've got
to maximize everything and finding the limit is a you know,
is definitely a big point to that. So you know
sometimes you cross over it and kind of have a
bit of a research.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
And get after it.
Speaker 13 (40:10):
But yeah, you're always pushing to the Maximuman forget.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
The riffs call. You make the call on eight Sports
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Speaker 2 (40:20):
These talks four and a halfway from eight o'clock that
has a new sport and weather is on the horizon.
Up after that Marcus Slash with his program through until midnight.
Scott Dixon, Chip Ga Nassi racing the Honda powered nine car,
looking again to try and scale the mountain that is
(40:43):
IndyCar racing six championships he's got. He's one of what's
three New Zelanders, isn't it involved in the IndyCar which
starts at Peenisburg over the weekend. Scott McGlocklin, of course,
out of Team Penske is one other New Zealander and
Marcus Armstrong. Marcus Armstrong who comes out of the house
(41:05):
and christ its Originally he is there as well. My
shank racing. As mentioned by Scott before, it's gonna be
another huge year. Another way, just downplayed crashing his car
like because I blew my car up first. Hey, thanks
for your attention, Thanks for your time. See, most of
(41:25):
next wealth is the value of his business. It's not
sitting in a bank to dish out willy nilly. I
wouldn't say that, did I. I'm just saying from a
sponsorship point of view, I'm sure they could rustle that up.
It's an amazing idea. Why wouldn't you? I don't know.
Maybe I need a ten percent cut for that one. Hey,
(41:46):
thanks very much for your time. You text, your phone, calls,
your ears. As you know, without people listening, I don't
get to have all this fun anymore. So you keep
listening Ainst Middlesex. Thanks for pushing me around. That's what
producers do, right evening.
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Toward the end of the show, we'll catch up with
Scott Digson, six times IndyCar Champion's picked up a Indy
five hundred title as well, and he's coming back for
(00:56):
a four hundredth year racing. I don't know how long
this guy's been around. He must be touching core of
a centuries, which ridiculous. In fact, I think he's been
in INDYCA as long as I've been stinking up the
joints here. I believe it. Anyway, So we'll be talking
to Scott oh so, yes, four hundred years. Yeah for
thank you, Yes, thank you, executive producer. Actually kind of
(01:16):
drop me down a couple of levels now you said that,
thank you guy who hits buttons An's millicice so Scott.
Later on in the piece, the IndyCar Championship starts at St.
Petersburg on Monday morning. Zeal in time Cracker. We're going
to get things running with John flat to x CEO
of Sky Television odd as they come, and I know
(01:38):
that Gregor Paul was on today with Ryan Bridge on
Heather to Plas Yellen Drive Show talking about the chances
of the Zone climbing on and whipping out the rights
of n Z Rugby right from underneath the noses of
Sky Wow. What kind of effect would that have on
SkyTV on the viewing public? Would de zone go further
(01:59):
and maybe buy Sky flatter? I don't know, there's lots
to talk about. I'm going to take your calls on
that situation after John Phillip joins the show, which is
coming up next. But as per before we do that,
let's do this Sport Today and Sport Today, Kayla Clark
is in the hot water, scoring his backside he is
(02:20):
the all black winger rode his minorcycle too fast and
didn't stop with the cops and the laws. Plainly not happy.
Blue Skipper and Patrick three. Potter two has offered support
for his friend and teammates.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
He knows he's made a mistake. He's shown he's sorry
about the options and look, we just got to get
around them. He knows the procedure now and the precess
that has to go through. So being a close friend
and a teammate, I think you can do nothing else
but be beside him and help him to.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I've got to respect the English there that Patty Tuops used.
He said he made a mistake, as opposed to he
made a poor decision, which is kind of pretty standard
this day and age tell it like it is. Carle Jamison, Jamison, Jummerson,
depending on who you listen to. His back and a
black cap, the towering Seema is getting his huge feet
under the desk again. But he loving being back where.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
He belongs, trying to, I guess readjust to what the
subcontinent looks kind of bring as a seema and what
that role looks like. But yeah, like it was, it
was just nice to be back out with the boys
and forget where I left off twelve months ago.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Luke Metcalf has the seven jersey for the War's first
up NRL fixture this year. Assistant coach and former seven himself,
Stacey Jones tells us why he's got a really strong
kicking game and defends really well and he talks really well.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
So you know, it's still relatively young.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It's all go on Sunday for the Warriors as they
take on the Raiders in Vegas, and Joe Parker's manager
David Higgins has revealed a brightest spot in his Chargers future.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
If Dubar Usak happens, there'll be a unified champion and
then Joseph can have a crack at that unified champion
towards the end of the year perhaps, So I wouldn't
be at all surprised to see Joseph Parker have a
go at unifying maybe unified towards the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
They're all terrified of him, and I understand and why.
And that's Sport today coming up eleven past at seven,
that's Tuesday evening, and we're going to talk now about dezones.
You can say a hostile takeover or an offer to
pick up ins are All Black Rights? Maybe takeover Sky?
(04:27):
I don't know. Great story broken today by New Zealand
The heralds Gregor Paul. You want to read more about
it insidherld dot co dot inz is where you can go.
So John joins us now he's the former CEO of
sky TV. Good evening, John, I trust you well, I am.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
I'm good Josee.
Speaker 8 (04:44):
How you doing.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I'm doing very well. Great to have you on board again.
It's been a while. Crazy story today coming out in
the world of sports broadcasting, I suppose of anything. It
says that the sands that are shifting are shifting in
a hurry. Now there's word that the possibility that Dezone,
the big boxing stream who are involved in other sport,
might roll in and pick up All Black Rights, swipe
(05:08):
them from underneath sky TV's nose. How big is something
like this for the sporting landscape here in New Zealand.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Well, it's really hard to predict right now. I mean,
the Zone is a global streamer and the All Blacks
we all love and probably the most valuable sport content
in New Zealand. But even like across the Tasman. You know,
it would be like the fourth or fifth most important
sporting franchise over there. So it's tough to be I
(05:38):
remember when I had when Sky started, we had ESPN
and it would jump from a IX soccer match in
the Netherlands over to badminton and from Indonesia. And so
it was tough to be a global streamer because sports,
something like the squid game works everywhere, but sports with
(06:00):
some rare exceptions you know, Super Bowl or FA World
Cup and that sort of stuff a fecal work up. Sorry,
it's much more localized. The fact that they're talking is interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I would say, well the nature of streaming that landscape's
changed dramatically as well. It's not a brave new world.
It's not so scary as it was when sparking, for example,
turned up. So timing wise, it seems right that the
public will actually engage with this, they understand it.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Yeah, And probably the biggest breakthrough has been practically all
new television sets have a streaming capability built in most
of the key apps. As an example of Television New
Zealand a TVs A plus, just about every television set
you buy will have an app that you can go
to and try it out. I'm sure I'm not seeing
(06:50):
the designe on mine, but my set's four or five
years old. But you know, sixty percent of the people
in the States look at streaming through their smart TV sets,
so and I imagine New Zealand wouldn't be far behind that.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And look through the phones as well, on every devices
possibly gone, So it does start getting very very broad out.
That designer talked before about being This is with Alex
Smith on News talks EB about being the home of
sport in New Zealand. In order to do that, you
have to have the All Blacks, don't you Otherwise you
can't say that.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Look, that's true.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
The All Blacks are number one in first place in
sports content New Zealand, and it's probably no second, third,
or fourth. And then you get to the other codes.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
How valuable is this code to Sky Sport if they
were to lose this, what kind of body blow does
that represent? John?
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Look, it's it's been six years since I ran Sky,
so I don't know all the economics of it now.
But back when when I was there, we had the
Disney Channel and Discovery and you know, thirty semi channels
all the movies, and sport was just part of it.
Now six years later, the movies kind of go directors
(08:03):
streaming to the Netflix and Prime and Apple TV, and
Sky has a great selection of movies, but not as
strong as they were a couple of years ago. And
in some of those channels like Disney and has disappeared
in ESPN. Now you can get from a couple of
different sources. It sounds like from reading so it would
(08:24):
be it would be their most important piece of content
they have right now.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
What the situation Insida find themselves in, we expect because
Spark has now dissipated, it means Sky in a slightly
stronger position playing being there for sex years. So you
don't know, but they are in a position which Well
said that they will lobel. Insida haven't got a choice.
So maybe some of this from Rugby and Z is
(08:50):
a bit of posturing going, well, you better up it
because we've got these guys around the corner. This game continues,
and I suppose it accelerates, it doesn't it.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
You know what I loved about Sky when I'm CEO
there was that it was a poker game that never stopped,
and every day is a new deal and a new
service to go after. Keep in mind you use the
pejority of term low balling. Scott doesn't have as many
subs as they had when I was there, and so
I don't know how they can afford to pay as
much as they did five six years ago when they
(09:21):
did the deal last deal, So.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
It's less of a.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
Low ball and more of the economic realities.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Would they lose subscribers if Sky lost Rugby, you'd suggest
that would also be I use the term body blow.
I'll use it again.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Look, it certainly would you think would damage them, And
that's why they probably pay more for it than any
of the piece of content they have.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
As far as the public concerned and their ability or
they want to move providers. We covered it off before,
but is that more likely in this day and age?
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Look more likely, But there's still if you look at
Sky's churn numbers, there's still that group the population out there,
age and older that really feel quite comfortable with the
deacoda in the my Sky and have had it for years.
And to have them jump right away, I'm not saying
(10:17):
they couldn't do it, but I remember when I was
at Sky, a group called Coliseum got the PGA and
they just got killed. The PGA was had the oldest
audience and you were asking them to, you know, act
like they were nineteen as far as their viewing habits.
And so it's a Sky with a combination of streaming
(10:42):
and also linear, it would probably be in a better
position than just doing one or the other.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
John phillet Form, CEO of Sky, how about this for
an idea? And this has been thrown up as well
with Design now purchasing Foxtel and looking to basically take
that over. If you will sport in Australia, what are
the chances of made be Design rolling and going you
know what will take the whole of Sky? Do you
(11:09):
reckon that's within the capabilities or desires?
Speaker 7 (11:14):
You know, you'd have to ask to them. It certainly
be one sixth the purchase price that that Foxdale was
looking at today's market price for Sky.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So something that would be worthwhile. If you're looking at expanding,
because they've got Australia so to kind of make sense
that New Zealand, maybe you should be a part of that.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Look, there's two ways to make an impact. You buy
a company that has lots of sports rights, or you
start trying to go after sports rights, and you know
the sports rights are typically spread over a four or five.
Sky just got the cricket and so, and I think
that deal was for six years something like that. It
doesn't start for another year by and so you know
(12:00):
you couldn't you can't rule it out. But the Zone
would have a better explanation that I would have it.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
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Speaker 2 (12:17):
CEO of Sky from six years ago. He left that
role's names John Filett talking about the situation find ourselves
in today's story Broken by Gregor Paul Rugby scribed scribe
excuse me out of the New Zealand Herald. That design
negotiating with en Z are right under Sky's nose. I'm
(12:42):
holding my breath of that one because that's a smack
in the face. Look, I think they should go and
knock on the door of that Mobray character from zero
and try and sell rights to him. You become a
national hero. Given z are a billion dollars because he's
got heaps of it, and he can just license all
of the all black gear and all the toys he
(13:03):
wants and he'll become a national hero just by walking
out a bit of Money's Wednesday? Are they do you reckon?
Anyone's actually got knocked on the door of that mansion said,
can't give us some coin with the all But anyway,
so insed are negotiating with Sky and now Design have
turned up shifting sands constantly. When it comes to sport
(13:26):
coverage here in New Zealand, expect the unexpected. The only
constant has changed. The list goes on. So my question
out here to you is this the end for Sky.
I don't think anyone wants to see the end of Sky.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
There.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
There'll be a lot of people out there who have
Sky for a number of reasons. And it's not one
hundred sport well, as John pointed out, it's fragmented somewap
because of the streaming services that are out there. When
it comes to I suppose regular terrestrial TV, you can
pick all that up on your apps on your smart TV.
(14:05):
When it comes to move usually got Netflix. Look, the
list goes on. It all comes in a nice, easily
managed home on your top box to Sky. So I
get why it's popular. And of course there's sport, which
I think drives a lot of people, and as John said,
this is possibly the All Blacks their most valuable commodity.
(14:26):
This is what keeps them breathing. They've joined that now
with the Cricket so a couple of staples in New Zealand.
Sport so ends and are enormously important to Sky, enormous
If they lose it, would it be the end of
their story? Is that the final nail? If you will?
(14:50):
Second question? Would you stay?
Speaker 9 (14:54):
Now?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I'm not talking to the hardcore s guy fans who
want to watch Desperate Housewives and whatever else they have
on them, because I don't watch any of that, right,
I got a frown there from producer Milices. I've got
no idea, Yeah, what's on regular tvacause I don't watch it?
Watch sport. The only other thing I watch on my
television is my cat climbs up on it, which is
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quite the trick because it's like a low pridefile skit.
It doesn't matter, be quiet, So we'll just stay. If
Sky loses the rights to the All Blacks and the
Super Rugby, would you stay? I mean, finally, would that
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finally make you up take streaming? Would you finally go
all right, Okay, I get it. I don't quite understand it.
I'm getting a bit long in the tooth. I really
don't want to know about it, but I have to.
This is the trigger for people to go I'm going
to a streaming service. That's it. I can't do this
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top box stuff anymore. O eight one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is at the end for Sky? Would you stay?
And that finally pushed you over the line to get
you involved in twenty first century technology O eight hundred
eighty ten eighty. I'd stick with Sky because they got
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sport on. I can't find anywhere else. I'm then I'm
not leaving my gain anywhere. But what about you? How
important is rugby coverage to the future of Sky and
for the future of your subscription? O eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. Lines aren't open. It is seven twenty three.
This is News Talk ZEB. You can call on that number.
(16:42):
You can text nine two ninety two that's z b ZB.
This is sports Talk.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
No need for the TMO. We've got the breakdown on
sports Talk.
Speaker 10 (16:54):
Call oh eight hundred eighty News Talk ZIBE.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Six Sports stock Care on News Talks ABM, Darcy our
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty lines are open nineteen
ninety ZBZB. If you want to text on n I'll
run through some of your texts shortly, but I'm more
interested in your phone calls. Hi, Kevin, what's on your mind?
And welcome?
Speaker 11 (17:26):
Hey, good Evan Darcie a regular regular listener and regular caller.
Hell are you?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I'm very very well, what's what does this mean to you?
This decision? If indeed Desone manages to flog the rugby.
Speaker 11 (17:38):
I've been following kind of a similar situation with the
whole design Fox cell situation as well as I'm kind
of curious. It's like how it's because remember their deal
is subject to the hill see, which is the equivalent
of our commerce commission deals subject to them. But however,
at the end of the day, it would be a
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really interesting broad because, as you say, if someone didn't
mention Spark Sport earlier, because it's the game has quite
changed quite a bit since since Spark has come in.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
But hugely right product wrong time. They were just too.
Speaker 11 (18:11):
Early, however, was I'm physically staring at my TV screen
right now as it Right now, I'm staring at at
the official I've got the Oudsie broadcaster of Super Rugby.
I'm actually I'm actual still at their screen their content
right now on my TV. Legally I'm staring at it because,
(18:34):
as I said, i've and I've been pretty surprised. But
the some of the presentation of it, mean, do.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
You keep him with the coverage? Say it does disappear
and suddenly Designer there and Sky no longer has it?
How does that alter your subscription payment, your ability to
stay with Sky? Do you care? Do you run if
they lose the Rugby in essence is what I'm asking.
Speaker 11 (18:59):
Uh maybe maybe not because for the all black Amsters,
but all black Super Rugby. Yeah, but like your NPC stuff,
probably not. It's like a kind of a fifty to
fifty rock and a hard place.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And I'd expect this idea was struck that would have
to include the MPC, which I'm not entirely sure a
lot of people want those broadcast Wise, what about or
what about the idea that they design, roll it and
just buy all of Sky flat out, write a check?
Speaker 11 (19:29):
Or how about I was thinking I had kind of
long thought about it. What about maybe as an alternative
to Zone? What about maybe nine Entertainment, which is parent
the parent of STAN or Paramount, which is the parent
company of Network ten. Over there, maybe who knows, Maybe
throw these throw those two into the into the whole
discussion of what I mean, Well, who knows?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I think design and Kevin, thanks for your call. They've
got a lot of money behind them, and as John
pointed out, you either buy all the separate rights, so
you just buy the whole station and from there what
happened said they get rid of the top boxes and
go that's it there over everybody has to stream like
it's an idea. Let's move on to a next caller.
(20:12):
Dam good evening to you, sir.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, good, good good. Hey, look you know
I've just canceled Sky after fifteen years customer three three moldiboxes.
By the way, they offer you off the years if
you if you try and pull out. But look, they
actually have some new skyboxes that they're released really poor
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quality compete with my that's my experience, and actually turned
me off Sky for about three months. So I ended
up turning to my streaming services pretty heavily, to a
point that I realized I didn't need Sky anymore. The
only reason I had it was pretty old blakes for
if one I can get one shrimming on TV yep.
(20:58):
So that leaves to rugby as a problem. I just
couldn't justify the cost of Sky just for rugby. But
I can't get it from a end they say on
skygo or something like that for the important games the.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Most valuable commodity, isn't it. This is what I think
keeps a lot of people with Sky without a doubt.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
The last ten years of the fifteen years was because
of the rugby, and so I think injured are actually
missing a trick by staying with Sky, and they've got
a problem if they continue to go down that route
because the sky TV or the traditional way of TV
is dying and they need to move quickly to give
(21:37):
us good content, good data and a bit more of
an experience and the streaming side of things which they
can do which they can't do as much with SKYK.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I think with the sky an't they changing the way
they broadcast their satellite is kind of at the end
of it's used by date. The changing that look. I've
got the skybox and by and large I've got no
problem with it. I'm still getting used to surfing on
them because it takes me while. I'll look into things,
but I think I'm an outlive because I've got it
(22:09):
because of what I do and how high water. No
one's going to take it off me regardless, So it's
a little different. So Dan, it's curtains for you and
you're unlikely to go back.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
Wow, I definitely won't. And I'm waiting for ends that
are to release a strength of the streaming services from
what I understand.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, but then they can't do it, Dan, because they've tried.
I think that what we've seen with the way New
Zealand Rugby have looked after their content and the way
they've dealt with silver Lake and the way they've attempted
to package up interesting documentaries and drive its life, they
can't do it. I just don't think they're able. They
might be willing. So that's probably another space that wee
(22:49):
can get it too, Dan. So we've got to go.
We've got more calls coming in eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty lines are open. I watched for some texts
for you seen as well today, Hayden. Oh what was that?
So there was a ghost of a musician just jumped
in my ears, Hayden, what's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (23:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (23:06):
With Sky, where else could we get eventhing in one place?
The alternative would be heaving to maybe by subscriptions for
respective sports. If you want to get EPL, he'd become
twenty five bucks New Zealand a month.
Speaker 10 (23:20):
Right.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
So if you want access to things like NFL, NBA,
all the stuff the pafora of sport that's on Sky,
all in one place, good luck. I mean Sky gets
a bad rep, but I think the package they offer
if you think of all the sports that they bought
particallyally amazing. If they were to lose to all blacks,
that would be a down up that I would not leave.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
So watch precisely, there are so much to watch, isn't there.
I'm a bit of a sport addict, so I love
serving around and finding what they've got that, as I said,
different situation, because this is my profession, I have to.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
The thing is, man, I've got this. I've had all
forms of Sky from basic movies, you name it, sports
package and whatever. But I've got the Sky Sports part now,
which is eleven sports channels standard that they add extra
channels things, the coverage of the Australian Open was insane.
They had basically like I think up the eight all
(24:17):
channels crazy service. The service is pretty good man, and
a lot of people complain about sports so it's lagging, lagging,
But you've got to have high speed live, isn't it
to get the service running at optimum level. I would
not be leaving Sky with the lost all let's and
the zone. You know, I follow a lot of the
(24:39):
NFL in the zone walk.
Speaker 12 (24:41):
After a lot of the NFL, and the complaints about
that service and lagging and blackout and taxilation are insane, man,
like you follow the NFL comments pages on bloody social media.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
So we're going to be careful. We wish we're right.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, absolutely, Hayden, thanks very much for your input. One
hundred eighty ten eighty lines are open. The question is
if the rugby goes, do you leave Sky? Is this
the hook that you hang your watching coat on the rugby?
Oh one and eighty ten eighty lines are open and
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this is news Talk. Is zed B still to come
in the program? More of you, more of me, more
Texan Scott Dixon, AH seven thirty eight Sports look on
News Talk zed B got a quick text for your life.
Streaming is a pain in the ass. I'm gram. I
think you've got your wires mixed up. Think about it.
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I don't care about sport. They should all be doctors
and nurses. I'm sorry, Paul. I've got no idea where
you're coming from, but thanks for that anyway, Darcy. Nick
Mobray didn't get rich by making bad financial investments. Why
would he invest in a loss and ends at au Steve.
It's really simple. They've got so much money, billionaires, they
don't care anymore. It's just ego, that's all it is.
(26:05):
You look at the billionaires and I'm buying sports teams
and I don't try and dig to the center of
the earth, flight of Mars. What's not about money making anymore.
They've got more money than able to do with. Become
a hero, buy Henza, give it free to everybody, and
you put zero across the front, and everyone of you happy.
It was just an idea. Let's get back to the phones. Hi, Richard,
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hell's going good? How are you going.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
Very good?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Nice?
Speaker 9 (26:35):
I was just going out to say I'm a massive
fan of sky yep with using the standard old I've
got the black bots. I think it's cool and the
because I can watch about three sports at once between injury,
bracks and rugby, can flick over to the NRL, can
flick up to the American TV channels, where with the
streaming you've got to go got to load and you've
(26:56):
got to come out and you've got to find the
next thing, where with the skybox you just fluck between
the channels. I can flick up to Fox and books
Philip prumps up to.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
One hundred percent. Understand what you're saying now, I think
that is a huge bonus. And a little black top
box you just flick love it, gotcha?
Speaker 9 (27:15):
Yeah? And also I can flick over to one channel one,
channel three watch the news, and then which isn't you
know something else on the cricket's on? You can flick
back and watch it. I just I don't really get
what people are complaining about. And people say, I think
I've got an extra box. I think I'm paying one
hundred and thirty five bucks. What you can't even go
out for dinner for one hundred and thirty five bucks. Mean,
while I'm in the Formula one and all the Formula one,
(27:37):
all the NFL, most of the base all most of
the base of all all that, you know, it's just
a great product.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Who goes out to dinner these days? Yeah, I get it.
I know what you're saying, and I thank you very
much for your call. And the whole streaming versus top
box is always going to elicit some interesting arguments. This
guy's texting and the same thing pretty much as Root
(28:07):
and you can watch multiple sports of the touch of
a button, which can't do with a streaming service. And
that's a really good point. What you need is to
have both or a TV going and your computer and
your phone. Good day, Scott. How are you?
Speaker 9 (28:23):
Oh, I see I'm going Well, how are you?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I I'm very very happy. What's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (28:28):
Oh? Well, I've been traveling today and I've just heading
back from the airport and I've heard your mention of
the news about his own and what they might do
with nz Are And yeah, it's brought to mind the
fact that I think, indeed, I've got to be careful
because I used to be a great cricket fan, Darcy,
(28:49):
but the cricket, even cricket, seemed to change broadcasters so
many times I lost track of who was broadcasting cricket.
And I couldn't now tell you who was broadcasting cricket
for me watching cricketers, it's no longer an option for me.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Well, Sky I've got it and they've got it back
for another six years. So and I know what you
mean though, that when you go popping back and forth
between formats like I can't do this anymore.
Speaker 9 (29:18):
Yeah, that's right. You've got so many platforms and how
many times do you mention something to someone about what
you're watching and they go, what platforms are on? I
don't know.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
I don't know, and it ends.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
It up to me just don't have a great product.
I saw I'm one of those sky Chat shows at
the balls and play about thirty four minutes, which you know,
it's pretty tragic, and you can see why people just
love NRL. I'm a big NFL fan, have been since
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nineteen seventy eight, and I wouldn't if Fred we left Sky,
I wouldn't leave Sky, but I'd stayed because of the
NRL and NFL and.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
That's what we want. Yeah, it's not. And thanks for
your call, Scott on your way home. Not all about rugby,
lots of sport, heeads. It is all about rugby. But
there are other offerings, so maybe not the death now.
Maybe yes, it's a very valuable product. Might be a
(30:25):
relief it's gone on. Let's just say this one hundred
million bucks. We're all right, We'll just keep the formula one.
Let's have a quick chat with Ross and then Scott
Dixon surely go Ross?
Speaker 9 (30:39):
Was that?
Speaker 8 (30:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (30:40):
Here you can see, Hey, I went from the setbox
to streaming on the Sky sky Sport now thing.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
But I believe they've got a TV at now smart TV,
which if you download the Sky up now, you can
then go through each channel channel by channel without re
refreshing at the moment. If you're on a if you're
on Nightpad, you've got a refiche every time it gave
from Sky Sport one, two, three, four, five, whatever, which
(31:15):
I'm in an email l pick thing for work. So
this week, you know, I'm going to and spend some
money on a new TV. But I've just got to
verify that that's what I can do.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I'm pretty sure on my white box I can still
fleck through, but I can't go from streaming back to
that streaming that It still takes some time. It's getting
better and better and better. And this is the nature
with streaming. It accelerates so fast, and when you've got
a fast acceleration technology, you never know, do you what's
(31:44):
going to come up next, what's going to be around
the corner, and how much more efficient it's going to be.
I mean, push comes to shove. We're the fan, We're
at the center of the room. The companies and the
manufacturers they'll do as much as they can to make
it easy as possible for us so they can take
our money. Love being a consumer. Coming up next, Scott
Dixon joins us as we look forward to the start
(32:08):
of Indy Cars. His news talks thereb twelve and half
away from eight. Marcus Lash up after eight o'clock talk
to talk to Scott Dixon. Out at Scott Dixon was
this was the twenty third year angs that we work out. Wow,
(32:29):
crazy crazy still there, six times champion and he's competing again.
Saint Pete starts off on Monday morning and Scott joins us.
Scott Dixon, how you doing.
Speaker 13 (32:41):
I'm doing good man good excited for the new season
to kick off.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Good to hear, always excited. It doesn't matter how many
times you do this. It kicks in, doesn't it all
the time? What is it about?
Speaker 13 (32:52):
Well, I think it's the long off seasons. But you know,
luckily I'm able to do a bit at i'm So
racing as well in sports car stuff with Daytona and
then prepping for for Sebring twelve hour here recently. So yeah,
the off season this year was pretty quiet on the
NY front, with no real testing. Kind of had one
day at Seabrain before we kick off this week. So yeah,
(33:13):
last year we had quite a bit just due to
the fact of the hybrid testing and all that kind
of stuff. So yeah, it's there's been a lot of
drivers sitting around for a little while, so it's good
to get going here.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
What's new this year, if anything at all, when it
comes to the season, when it comes to the series,
when it comes to the car, when it comes.
Speaker 13 (33:31):
To the team. So quite a few changes, mostly on
the team front. We went from five cars back down
to three, which I think is a great move. They've
done a new engineering alliance deal with my Shank Racing,
which they previously had been with Andretti, so it's kind
of five cars. You know, Armstrong is still a teammate,
(33:51):
he's you know, kind of leased out or used out
to shank my shank racing. And then obviously, you know,
being back with an ex teammate, Felix rosen Quest, so
you know, it's quite a great combo. I think on
the car side there's not too much. I think energy
levels change a little bit on the hybrid, you know,
just more usage. I think per lap is kind of
(34:13):
one of the key differences. And then some bigger differences
on the tire front. I think between the you know,
the black or you know, standard tire to the option tire,
which I think is green or red this year will
have a bigger difference, so you know, the softer tire
will degrade a little bit more, but have you know,
kind of a higher peak speed. And then for the series,
(34:34):
you know, a new new deal with the broadcaster with Fox,
which has been fantastic advertising and all the stuff at
the Super Bowl and you know they've been really knocking
out of the park, so you know, all of the
races in America will be on live TV, which is great.
Hasn't been like that for quite a few years, so
that's a big push forward. I think definitely for the sport,
(34:55):
a bit.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
More pressure on you and the team to make sure
you put on a good display.
Speaker 13 (35:00):
That pressure is a waste, man, Pressure is a privilege,
and you know, for us it's just you know, it's
always same mindset, right, You're just going out there to
try and win each race and that will still obviously
with the first one this weekend, but no different on
that front.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Him As far as picking up what last year, if
you had a big off season, you had plenty of
time to think, I'm sure what was the main takeaway
from twenty twenty forty I think for you and Chip
Ganassi Racing.
Speaker 13 (35:27):
Yeah, frustration. I think on the nine car side, you know,
it was still another great year for the ten obviously
going back to back championships, so you know, a championship
year for the team again, which was fantastic. You know,
Alex and the ten Card group did a phenomenal job.
You know, for us, we led kind of the first
half of the season and then and then you know,
(35:47):
we just had issue after issue with tire failure and
then a hybrid failure, and you know, then got crashed
out a couple of races. And as soon as you
get knocked out of one or two, man, you're really
out of the running, and you know, the ten Card
did a fantastic job of having rough weekends and still
turning them into two great points point stays. So you know,
for us, I think the performance was there. We had
(36:09):
some great races, obviously a couple of wins. The win
count for a lot of people. It was kind of
spread last year, you know, for Alex only two race
winds but still won the championship. We had two race wins,
but just didn't really capitalize on the low points. But yeah,
I think for us, you know, definitely a rebuilding off
season and just making sure that we cover you know,
(36:29):
all avenues and making sure that you know, we get
the most out of each session and each race. And
you know, you only need to average kind of a fourth,
fifth or sixth finishing position to win the championship, so
you know, you've got to make the most out of
the bad days.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
The hybrid. Do you think that's settled down a wee
bit to pick much up from last season that when
you had that failure, I'm sure you've jumped straight on
to anything in that space you need to look at.
Speaker 13 (36:54):
Yeah, some of that is frustrating, you know, for us,
they think the first race. You know, it didn't even
make the start pace laps. You know, kind of went
out of the pits and then you know it kind
of got into a bit of a cycle and drained
the battery and then killed the cart. So you know,
those hopefully a little worked out. I think the parameters
and kind of settings, you know a little bit better
to try and stop that stuff. We still actually had
(37:16):
a failure at the one day preseason testing with ours,
so you know it was a high mileage unit. So
hopefully that's a lot of those issues out. But I
think when you add you know, kind of more items
to you know already a pretty you know, a pretty
you know, interesting kind of setup for the car, and
you know all the systems that you have. You just
(37:37):
hope that you know, one of those things don't catch
you out. So you know, a lot of that stuff's
out of your hands. Man, You can't worry about it.
You just got to get after it and make the
most of it and hopefully it doesn't happen to you.
What are you coming up quarter of a century racing?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
This has it got an arter or easier as far
as what happens in the cockpit, not the racing itself.
How do you think it's developed as a series.
Speaker 13 (37:56):
Yeah, I think it kind of you know, it's it's
a bit of a roller coaster. I think some years
are easier than others. You know, championship years, we've really
been on a roll. It's not like you do anything different,
just sometimes it kind of rolls with you. So, you know,
I think the details, it's always been about the details.
But I think more teams. You know, there are no
small teams now, so you know, I think you've you've
(38:17):
really got the capability from just about everybody on the
grid that's going to have a shot at winnings. So
you know, the competition level is much more stout. You know,
the first championship I won back in two thousand and three,
you know, I think I dnf five or six races.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
You know, you wouldn't even be in the play.
Speaker 13 (38:33):
But that was just because reliability was you know, wasn't on,
wasn't the forefront then, whereas you know, you now have
some drivers completing you know, every lap of the season,
which you know, that's what you've got to really do
to make sure that you're in the running for the championship.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
What about the we skid that you have apparently minor
re damage. You weren't hurt, but a bit of a
shake up. Oh the tests. Yeah, the test was like
the way it's completely forgotten about it already.
Speaker 13 (39:01):
Yeah, you move on. The test was a bit rof
We we actually blew the engine on the first slap,
which took us out of running for the first day.
And that's one of your four engines that you get
for the season, so at some point we'll get a
penalty for that, which was definitely frustrating. And then yeah,
had a locked rear with the increased hybrid, you know,
(39:22):
toll on the real axle, rear axle, and then kind
of got in the grass a bit and just tapped
the wall which bent the upper wishbone. But you know,
we were out kind of thirty minutes later. It was
nothing too crazy, but yeah, you know those are those
are some of the things when you're pushing hard that happened.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I suppose it gives you a distinct reminder of the
extraordinarily fine lines that you guys ride every time we're
talking millimeter is at some stage that'll just I suppose
of anything. Not a shakeout. But you look at this
and go, yep, we're right on the edge here. I
can't forget that because you're a reminder, isn't it, Scott?
Speaker 13 (39:58):
Yeah, it does. You know, you got to you've got
to maximize everything and finding the limit is a you know,
is definitely a big point to that. So you know
sometimes you cross over it and kind of have a
bit of a research.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
And get after it.
Speaker 13 (40:10):
But yeah, you're always pushing to the Maximuman forget.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
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These talks four and a halfway from eight o'clock that
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Up after that Marcus Slash with his program through until midnight.
Scott Dixon, Chip Ga Nassi racing the Honda powered nine car,
looking again to try and scale the mountain that is
(40:43):
IndyCar racing six championships he's got. He's one of what's
three New Zelanders, isn't it involved in the IndyCar which
starts at Peenisburg over the weekend. Scott McGlocklin, of course,
out of Team Penske is one other New Zealander and
Marcus Armstrong. Marcus Armstrong who comes out of the house
(41:05):
and christ its Originally he is there as well. My
shank racing. As mentioned by Scott before, it's gonna be
another huge year. Another way, just downplayed crashing his car
like because I blew my car up first. Hey, thanks
for your attention, Thanks for your time. See, most of
(41:25):
next wealth is the value of his business. It's not
sitting in a bank to dish out willy nilly. I
wouldn't say that, did I. I'm just saying from a
sponsorship point of view, I'm sure they could rustle that up.
It's an amazing idea. Why wouldn't you? I don't know.
Maybe I need a ten percent cut for that one. Hey,
(41:46):
thanks very much for your time. You text, your phone, calls,
your ears. As you know, without people listening, I don't
get to have all this fun anymore. So you keep
listening Ainst Middlesex. Thanks for pushing me around. That's what
producers do, right evening.
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