February 27, 2025 • 42 mins
D'Arcy Waldegrave returned to wrap another day of sports news! Highlights for tonight include:
Chiefs CEO Simon Graafhuis on Clayton McMillan's departure.
Kiwi Supercars driver Ryan Wood on how his season is going so far.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Wildergrave
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome to Sports Talk. My name's Darcy Aldergrave. Great to
have you on board.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
If you are, I'm sure you will be seven minutes
up to seven on a Thursday night, twenty seventh February
twenty twenty five. Tonight's program, we're going to look at
supercars because I can, and we're going to look at
play McMillan. He's fleeing what it's hardly fair. He's not
really running away from anything. He's off to monster. He
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caught a lot of people by surprise. One more year
in charge of the Chiefs and then it's Seida Powell.
I'm off to experience the wonders of Northern Hemisphere and
Irish Rugby. He probably enjoyed the Guinness a little too
much when he's over there with the All Blacks fifteen
late last year. And to talk about that. Shortly, the
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CEO of the Chief Simon Grafis, joins us at the timeline.
What happens next? Was he a good coach? How much
are they going to miss him? And so on and
so forth, and then we'll take your calls on eight
hundred eighty ten eighty talking about what Clayton McMillan has
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brought to the party. Is he a successful coach and
what denote success in Super rugby? Are we going to
miss him? Lots of questions and you can provide lots
of answers. And Ryan would Va supercar driver, a young
man who had his debut year last year, terrible start
to a season, a couple of DNFs, but this year
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he's turned it around a tad.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Talked to him about.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Supercars, the upcoming season and of course the launch of
topor the third round of it this season.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
A place you did reasonably? Will it last year?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
That's what our master plan is. But before we fully
engaged in that cartage, let's do something.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Something that we do with.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Alarming regularity.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Here It is sport today and in sport today. Clayton
McMillan enjoyed his time in.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Munster so much with the All Black fifteen.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Enjoyed it so much as going back for more of
the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Grand Pooba will cut short his a mulu Esh contract
at the end of the Super Rugby Pacific Tournament and
boost to the Emerald Isle into our general manager of
professional rugby crist Lendrum. It's pretty sure he'll be back,
though with a big fat doss here.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
We would love to get the benefit of what he's
about to learn at Munster and in Europe coming back
to us at some point in the future, and I
think he's got every intention of coaching in New Zealand again.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Qucomber Cool ravishing. Rick Ravendra is pragmatic, albeit modest around
his One Dame's national form. He's the first person to
wack a century on debut at the ODI World Cup
and their first crack of the champions trophy.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Unique Honestly, I just think it's been good with us
to dat on and I've been given opportunities to play
at the top of the order and that's been really
enjoyable and for me it's exciting to have a campaign
and a tournament and a hopeful trophy to work towards.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Phoenix Cafe Gan Carlo chiefy Youtelliano has spoken of his
team's slothful A League season so far.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It's a fair tam Is that fair?
Speaker 6 (03:33):
We've had several turning points in the last three or
four weeks. It probably runs with the theme of how
our season's going at the moment, you know, we're not
getting the rubb of the ground, but so not an excuse.
They still won six to one and deservedly.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Well.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It kind of is an excuse partially, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Am I wrong? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
And Josh Geary has gotten off to a good start
of the ins and open put himself in a good
position for tomorrow's second round at Karinet. He shot five
under at the remarkables and in teens on charging harder.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Probably like it better to be honest.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Over the last few years, I've played that more. I
know what to do.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
The weathers day has come a little bit of a shootout.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So you're just got to keep your foot down and
he has a lot of baddies and that's.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
It.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Is eleven minutes after seven. This is News Talk ZB
Sports Talk. I'm Darcy Waltergraver going to talk a bit
of rugby union now talking about Clayton McMillan, and we
are joined by Simon Grafis. He is the CEO of
the White Couple Chiefs and Simon welcome.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's a it's a it's a big day for the club.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Yeah, it is a big club, hey, And just to
clarify it's not just the Wakado Chiefs were obviously whole
Chiefs Region which is one of them. But yeah, happy,
happy to happy to carry on.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I think that's very important that you define that and
you've made a lot of Chiefs fans very happy.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
My apologies, that's all good.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
Yeah, but yeah, big day for the club in terms
of obviously the news that break today around around Clayton,
then yeah, he's certainly been had a massive presence with
the club and although disappointed, it's also we do celebrate
that stuff too. You know. We in a lot of ways,
we're here to developed players and coaches and it's good
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to see them go on to bigger and better things
and hopefully we're you know, we're an important part of
that development cycle.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
How long have you known?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
How long has it been chatted about, because obviously he
had to peel away from his contract. We're at the
club and end z are so long negotiations signing.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
No, I don't think it's been that long. And look,
Clayton and I have got a really good, good relationship
and Clayton's kept me informed right from when it was
highly unlikely. But as the process has gone through, it
seems to have got more and more likely until sort of,
you know, last week it was like jeep as this
thing looks like it's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Quite a distraction.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'd expect for everybody pretty good to get it out
of the way now before we get our hands on
it and start circulating rumors.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Right ah, And look to me, that's what we you know,
we were we were actually planning on trying to trying
to keep a lid on it until our by around.
We thought that would be a better way to deal
with in terms of the team. But it is what
it is, so therefore we've just set to front foot
and just come out with it. But yeah, look, I
hope we want to minimize the distraction the team of
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you know, they've got to focus week to week and
if they do a job each week, then then we
might be in a position to have a crack at
another title.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
You know, I'm presuming they approached him or did he
have feel as out looking to advance his career.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
I'm not one hundred percent sure, but obviously Clayton was
up in Ireland with the All Black fifteen and they
played Monster, so I imagine he probably you know, we've
got a John Ryan came down to play for the
club a couple of seasons ago. Alex Nankevill's up there.
There are a couple of other players that he's coached,
so he knows some of them. He I don't know.
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It's while he was up there, I imagine he probably
he might have. He might have made some connections. Yeah,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
They pretty small area rugby coaching rugby players. Every one
talks that operates. Simon Grafis joins the CEO of the Chiefs.
Did you try and keep them?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Did you resist?
Speaker 7 (07:18):
Look, we obviously wanted to want to keep Clayton. He
was coming towards the end of his contract though, and
Edolays made it pretty clear that he wanted to you know,
he was keen to go off and see what else
he could do. I mean, yeah, I personally I would
have been pretty keen to keep him. But like I say,
we're pretty proud of what he's achieved.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
You said before, Simon that it's very much as sort
of development club because you're there to win titles. But
there's a lot of trains that going on, with players
advancing and with coaches advancing as well. He happy with that.
As a club in the way things work through.
Speaker 7 (07:56):
Well, I think it's just part and parcel of it,
you know, Like in terms of players, you'd probably have
up to twenty percent of players normally change each season,
and there's an element of always changed. At a coaching group,
I think, you know, the head coach is probably a
little bit different. But if you have a lookover history,
you know, five years out of a head coach is
actually probably a good run. So as a club, we
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have to have plans in place for succession for all
our roles, whether that's head coach, the rest of the
coaching group, players, back off of staff, you know, like,
so we need to we need to make sure that
we've got things in place to carry on past any
one person.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Oh, it's interested in the nature of contracts in the
sporting world. They don't appear to actually mean a great deal.
You've got to walk away from them if it suits you.
Is that a fair thing to say? Contracts aren't really that.
They don't stick people to their roles, do they.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Ah?
Speaker 7 (08:52):
No, I'm not sure about that, because I mean, you're
looking they don't want to get into the technicalities of it.
But Clayton was contracted here till till the end of
twenty six, but he actually had an exit clause at
the end of twenty five, so he's actually what he's
doing is actually inligned with his contract, so there's no
he's not walking away from anything. He always had an
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option to get out of it. Hoped I'd hoped obviously
that he would have done the full term, But so
this is probably just a year earlier than we're probably
what we're planning for.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
What happens now.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You are plenty going to try and strive to win
this elusive title for the club and Clayton McMillan, When
do you start looking for a replacement? Who do you
talk to around that? Have you already done that? What
is that process Simon to find the next man off
the rank?
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Yeah, look, that's a great question. But look we're pretty
focused on making sure this isn't a big distraction. So
I think the key thing for us is to keep
everyone aligned with what they've got to do week by week,
and then we will go through a process once we've
finished the season, done our review process, and then go
through go through a process for head coach.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Would you like it to be an internal promotion, is
that likely or you open it up to everybody consumed
both here in a way.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
I think we've got you know, a personal view at
this stage is I think we've got really good capability internally. Yeah,
and so I think there's some really good contenders internally.
So yeah, I think what happens in the next in
the next twelve to fourteen weeks will probably probably you know,
it could well determine where we end up.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I think he's been a success simon when you look
across well it will be five years into the season
that he's coached in Hamilton coach the Chiefs. A successful tenure.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Absolutely, I think I think there's another media outlet today.
I mean he's got the highest highest winning winning ratio
out of any coach, any super coach. So I think
his recorded it self speak speaks for itself. And you
know what people won't have seen is what he's actually
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also done in the club. So he's been a big
part of a focus on the whole organization and culture
and values. So he's been he's been a big part
of that. Those that have watched Tony Fahre and Leish
on TVs Plus will have will have probably seen the
presence of that. So you're just a little bit of
a plug for plug for the doc.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Absolutely going and take a look. Good value he development wise,
he would have had a lot to play in that.
So his legacy will live on through bringing through the younger,
less experienced players.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I'm presuming.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Yeah, Yeah, and there's and there's a look, there's a
whole coaching group and Pathways team that that work on
that as well. And but obviously Clayton's the figure then
he drives the style of how they play and and
and the specific culture that's in the rugby and the
rugby team.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
But like I said, I think we all and the
Clayton Clayton has been conscious of working on that too,
is how do how do we set the organization up
to succeed even even when certain individuals aren't are no
longer with us.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, get away from local coaching. They always say you
got a coach overseas to get that job. Presuming from
what you know of Clayton, he's a fairly he wants
to do very very well. Is this another step toward
the top job in New Zealand rugby is an ambitious character.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Yeah, I mean, I think that seems to have been
almost proven pathway for coaches, so you know, I think
that'll probably be that that's part of the logic of
him doing that that New Zealand Rugby is often in
encourage the coaches to go off shore and get off
your experience, and yeah, a good, good opportunity to give
give an experience to his family, I think too. You know,
he's given a lot, a lot of time to New
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Ziana rugby and yeah, island's not the west part of
the world to go and spend some time.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
No, it looks like a very popular destined nation.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I tell you what.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
This is going to put a rocket up the players,
not that they haven't gone it already. Would an amazing
start to the season to see Clayton McMillan off as
a success after what a few finals not quite getting
it over the line.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
There'd be some great energy around this from the team.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
Yeah, you'd hope. So, I mean, I don't think that's
shorter motivation, but yeah, it might. It might be might
add a little bit, and you'd hope. You know, there's
a huge amount of respect from everyone from the board
through the through to the playing group, to the back
office team. So yeah, I think everyone everyone's pretty keen
to make sure that Clayton and and the others. That
are a few other key people who are finishing this.
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You two would be nice to see them off with
a you know, with a trophy or something.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Fantastic work there, Thank you very much. Simon Grafts.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
There, here's the CEO of the Chiefs, not the white
couple Chiefs. I don't want to get put in place
by our guests and well done rightly, so they're the Chiefs.
Maybe tag them with their sponsor able to sharance. Simon
the CEO of the.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Side has just lost their coach. Yikes.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Claate McMillan is off understandably five years at the helm
of the Chiefs. Can I say no success or is
that incredibly cruel? I'm still trying to work this out.
I talk about Ian Foster failing at the World Cup
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and some people are like, dude, that's really cruel. You
can't say that he took the team to the finals.
Will you be lost? We don't deal with lost very
well in his Zealand rugby and I'm talking to rugby
fans here, rugby fans of Super Rugby and you look
at what Clayton McMillan has done. Yeah, and astonishing when
last record appears in final after final and semi finals.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
But what does he have to show for it? Nothing?
Your first or your last? Right, you don't.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Compete for I mean the Olympics to compete for a
silver medal, but anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Do you compete to run? No, you don't.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I'm sure infuriates him and gets under his skin. And
you'd like to think that this is the year he
gets the trophy and walks away going there you go,
I told you five years bang after months to now
will he be missed? Is this the right move for
Clayton McMillan.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I think it is.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I think it's the only move. I think it's the
best move. It's the move that all coaches who have
got all black aspirations should consider and then put it
into action when they can.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Well.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Oh, it took a long long time for Razor. In fact,
can you ever win anywhere?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
He just stayed here.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And grumped it out until he got the job. But
the general thought processes you do very well throughout maybe
schools and then clubs and then op to MPC level
then you go to super level and then the tariff
overseas and coach a big club over there or maybe
you know, Whales or something like that, and then you
come wandering back. So I think it's necessary. I think
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it's a good move. I think he will be missed.
But the regeneration of ideas, of enthusiasm, of attitude of
personnel is the key to clubs or franchises to carry
on progression and look towards winning things. And the only
argument there is what didn't happen with Razor? As soon
as he left it all turned pair shape. Maybe he
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was just a freak. I think players will miss them,
the club will miss them.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
But this is the right move.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
I believe this is the way you do. And you
put yourself into an uncomfortable zone, uncomfortable space, challenge yourself
somewhere else completely differently, and look up and look forward.
That's a great move for Clayton McMillan.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Do you think it is?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I do, and good on you, and I look you know,
I'm a fan of a red and black team. I
can't help myself for I was born down there. This
thing sticks with you. It's like, you know, excrement and
bare foot. It's really hard to what you just can't get.
I'm stuck here as a great lader. I would love
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to see Clayton McMillan walk away with a championship. I
just think he's been an amazing coach. He's been a
great person to deal with. I'd love to see.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Him go.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
And maybe that's just what the Chiefs need after the
great starts like let's not let's not cough it up now.
I eight hundred eighty ten eighty Will.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
He be missed? Is this the right move?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I got more questions for you after that as well,
but I want to stick with those two.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Let us know. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty progression.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Good on your Clayton, well done.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
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at the end of this Super Rugby.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Season.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Right move for him? I'm still trying to work out.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Well.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I've been reading articles as you do.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
For tendency two.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I love reading what New Zealand heralds Gregor Paul has
to write about New Zealand rugby. You think he comes
up with some fantastic points that are well worth laboring over.
I'm not sure if I agree with this one, and
this sits in with the Clayton McMillan situation. The headline
on his story is that New Zealand and Rugby are
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struggling to retain top leaders. There's an exodus of coaches.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
The drive behind end Zar is to keep.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
The best players, but what about the best coaches.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
The things?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
He can't keep them all. It's not possible, and New
Zealand will generate fantastic coaching talent that may come back
to bite us.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
But coaches have.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
To know they've got a career path, and that career
path might not necessarily be here in New Zealand, and
they can take that ip off shore and hopefully they
get more of a season bring it back over here again.
But there's only one pop job and there's nothing New
Zealand Rugby can do about that. I mean, assistant all
black coach. Sure sounds good, asked Leo on McDonald.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
How enjoyable it is? He didn't last long.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
So the fact that Clayton's going this is good in
the fact that it's a turnover as a room for
other coaches to grow and experience super rugby, which is
basically the top level they can experience sort of international rugby.
They you shift people along or they shift themselves along.
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It creates new space for new routes to come through,
like with players.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Injured. Are can't have all the coaches. It's not possible.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Even if they get a roll like the New Zealand
All Black fifteen like Clayton McMillan. God, it's fun for
a year, but after that and I don't want the
bigger job. I don't think there's an exodus. I think
it's just a necessary shedding and that will always happen.
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And maybe by that process of elimination you end up
with the best that stay. But it's often hear the
best are the ones that go away and come back.
I don't think there's an exodus of coaches. I think
there's coaches out there who want to work and they
have no choice and they can't stay here.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
There's nothing for them to do. What are they going
to do? In saying that, when you do start.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Life as a coach, I'm sure most coaches started off
because they enjoyed the process.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
One of the kids, there.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Are no guarantees about where you're going and the security
of your job. Looking into the future. There's many aren'ts
like being a rugby player, and it's not he'seeing rugby's
job to support everyone to be coach. Right, they'll put
a structure up help that the players out and a
lot of players can be employed.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Maybe not so much the coaches, which leads on to
the next question.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Who replaces him? I read a poll on the Herald
around who should come up next? Joe Schmidt's favorite amongst
the respondents to the pole. Another couple of names that
jumped up were Leo McDonald okay, and other name is
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Ross Filipo. Now here's a guy on the ups coached
through the stages as an assistant coach.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
That makes more sense to me and than another name
thrown around as Warren Gatlan.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I think the Chiefs will be insane to go backward
and look, there's no doubt that Joe Schmidt is class.
We've seen what he does. But Joe Schmidt does it
for a bit, then wants to spend more time with
his family, which is quite welcome.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
To do.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
His decision.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
But is that progressive, forward thinking move from the Chiefs
because it's a place saver, more of an assistant coach
to help out. Warren Gatlin is not the future. He
wasn't two years ago and the last gave him the job,
or however long ago.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
It was.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Five years Leo McDonald.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Maybe will that be enough for him after coaching at
the Blues.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I don't know, so many questions, so a little answers.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I think it's great that McMillan's going. I'm pleased as
hell for them. I don't think New Zealand and Rugby
are taking a body blow here because they simply can't
apploy all the coaches out that it is not possible
who replaces them. I have no idea your thoughts, Oh,
I'd had an eight ten eighty con text nineteen ninet
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two that is z B Z to B, and we'll
run through some of those texts for you. Shortly you're
on Sports Talk.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
You can see.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Don't you race?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Car driver Ryan Wood that joins the program eventually talking supercars,
one of five peddlers involved in.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Supercars changing the season as well this year.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
As far as the fight the playoffs, OK a NASCAR
situation at the end, it's not the man with the
most points at the end of the season wins, they
are going to funnel down into a finals series. Find
that a bit about that hopefully with Ryan up next,
A had a bit more interest to what is allow
me anyway.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's very interesting series. Love my Supercars.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Run through some text now our nineteen nine two ZBZB
they'll a track the standard text charge Darcy. The ends
that are and their fluid contracts have given anyols and
their lawyers a great defense and the lawsuit ever want
out of a contract. That's sweet as you see, but
has pointed out when we talked with Simon out of
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the Chiefs before, he actually had an exit clause already
in his contract that he triggered. So it wasn't walking away.
He thought, I'll be here X amount of times and
maybe the sixth there might be too much. I might
find something else, so I'll set that go. But you're
right in the form of contracts are very loose. There's
always a way out of them some way, I think
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in Injedr's situation though, as if any signed deal to
pay you money and then they walch on and don't
give you any money. They said you want together after
you've provided the services he said you would. They've maybe
got a bit a few more legs to stand on Darcy,
I think Warren Gatlan might be available again.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
No, no, no, no, and no.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Say that all of the Chiefs fans had a great career,
did some incredible things that they're the operative words hadn't did.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
Not anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Now the text week It sucks that half of his
losses came in the finals, but he did turn around
the Chief's longest losing streak. All the best to him
that what does that say to you about a coach
where they're winning lots of games, they're winning a high
percentage of games, but in the fixtures that really count
they drop ball literally and figuratively. Does this mean they're
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a good coach or only a good coach to a degree?
How much baggage do you hang around the neck of
the coach when that happens as opposed to what the
players should accept is their problem? This debate will go
on for any and ever. Amen, it's a good one. Obviously,
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part of him leaving is the law of the salary
that would have been part of his decision. Good on him,
but will he takes some Chiefs with him? We will
see I think, keV.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I'm not entirely sure where that came from. It the ego,
it's there. Whatever the music says, the music does.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
We'll come back shortly with Ryan Wood here on News Talks.
He'd be eighteen minutes to eight Sports talk here on
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news Talks.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Thereb right, we're just round the corner.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Young man running the HB cars went last year.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Back in the.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Seat again walking raw Walking, Shaw Andretta united as the team.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
He is in join us shortly before we go to that.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Just a couple of quick text me thanks very much
for sending these in, and I've completely lost them. I
believe that's the kind of last hour I've been having.
But that's all right, ah Darcy for sure. Oh mate,
Joe Smith all the way. But will Gatland's why couple
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history give him the front running? No, sorry, Warren's had
his day, but thank you for that, cheers Shane. Well.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I think that's true.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
But a big decision to be made. But I suppose
the big thing for the chiefs now is to focus
on the here and the now and not worry about
what happens next. Right, let's get away from that. Let's
talk about of Motor Sport now and we are joined
by the aforementioned Ryan Wood.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Ryan joins us now today.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Mate, how are you?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I'm very well and I suppose not quite as good
as you because you're a full time racer in supercars
and you're into year two now. Ryan runs for Walking
Shaw Andretta United. He's running the mobile truck Assess number
two car, the Mustang. And Ryan, you got off to
a much better start in Sydney than you did last
year in Baththurst.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
You must be happy enough about that.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Yeah, obviously a bit better start.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
It's always nice when you leave around one with some
points in hands. So yes, in the championship, not really
where I want to be, but like I said, it
gives me a bit of a platform to roll into
to round two with and then obviously after that we
have Taupo. So I'm really excited to get back here
to New Zealand and race in front of a home
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crowd and yeah, hopefully that'll that'll give me a bit
of extra spirit because I definitely know what did last year,
so can't wait to get back here. And you know,
obviously to start the season a little bit better is
a nice way to kick off twenty twenty five and
and my second year in the main game, So yeah,
bring it on.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
You're feeling a little more comfortable about where you sit
now look at that top tree where you were sitting
right now. And it's often said that the older guys
team to bully the younger guys because they're just not
experienced with these supercars and how they operate. And it's
pretty easy to qualify high, but dropped down guys aren't
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just used to their elbows being out. Do you experience
that in the first year that that rookie feel.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
I think it even goes into year two where they
definitely don't just back down. So it's I think that's
what makes supercars so tough and what makes it hard
for the young guys coming in.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
It's not exactly just the qualifying sort of stuff, but
it's the racing.
Speaker 9 (30:30):
You know, you've got guys, even on my teammate chairs
Brodie Kisticki, there's so many good guys that are hard races,
that don't just lie down when you try to go
for a move. So I think that's what makes it
really really tough and what makes supercars so exciting to
watch and I feel like Sydney was one of those
weekends where I feel like Supercars is coming back to
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its best with the action on track and even off track.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
So you reckon it just eased up a wee bit
over the last couple of years. You probably can't say
that you'll get sacked, but maybe it's a little heavier
than it was the previous couple of additions.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Is that fair?
Speaker 6 (31:09):
I wouldn't say it was eased up.
Speaker 9 (31:11):
I feel like there was always probably a dominant factor
or a dominant driver in previous years, where now it
feels like it's a bit more open and saying that
cam Water is just one three from three. But I
feel like, you know, even when someone is that dominant,
you look how hard he had to work on Saturday
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night in that race with Brock, Like it's yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Definitely not just it's weird.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
You know, you have those those times where the main
driver or like the guy to beat sort of just
goes past everyone and they sort of let him go past.
Where now I feel like it doesn't matter who it is,
they just battle for any position all the way down
to twenty four to twenty fifth, you know, So I
think that's what makes it quite exciting to be a
part of right now as well.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I'd suggest the Aussie drivers and I know the supercar
fans are fit up to the back teeth about being
schooled by key drivers. You guys been over there a
while now, you slap them around with e so I
expect what is five of you on the grid. I'm
sure that gives them a little extra when they're looking after.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
You in these races. Not only are you a rookie ish,
but you're a Kiwi. They must hate that. Ryan.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
It's definitely.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
Not the easiest sometimes when you've got the Kiwi flag
on the side of the car. But at the end
of the day, you know, I love representing our country
and it's pretty cool to be over there doing that,
and you know, have so much support from other Kiwi
drivers or from all different areas, so it's cool to
be a part of. And you know, obviously being with
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walking Shaw and dred United to come from to be
racing for that team and be guided by Grig Murphy
where he raced for them for so many years, it's
pretty special to be on us.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Not a bad acceleration for you to wie you sit
right now? What Twitter eighty six back in twenty twenty,
ran that for a couple of years. Then I think
you're in Super two and twenty three did well, and
suddenly you find yourself in the main game. Did you
expect to rise that quickly line?
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Definitely not.
Speaker 9 (33:19):
I feel like it's a pretty surreal feeling to be
where I've always wanted to be for so many years.
But it happened so fast for me at the same time,
so it's sort of weird. I remember doing my first
race in cars in twenty twenty and then all of
a sudden, I think it was start of twenty twenty two,
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end of twenty twenty one, I was moving.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
To Australia to raise Porsches.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
So it's yeah, happened pretty quickly, and you know, some
days it's probably a good thing, and some days it's
a bad thing because you know, I probably haven't had
the amount of experience some other guys have had to
get to supercars. But nonetheless I'm taking them with both
hands and just trying to trying to take it by
the scruff of the neck and try to get some
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good results.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
You know, it's spent a bit of time, you said
over to run porches with El Bamba, didn't you.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 9 (34:17):
So I won the Portion New Zealand Scholarship and that
was an awesome program thanks to Giltrap Group and they're
awesome team there and was able to get over to
Australia and probably without them, I wouldn't be in the
position I am now. So it's you know, obviously Earl's
had a great relationship with them for so long and
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then for them to the start the Porstione New Zealand program,
it's pretty special to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You mentioned topol before. It's a massive race.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
It's a crazy old track and when it blows and
the pummus turns up, I suggest it's like no other
from last year.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
What changes for you? Do you believe? What can you
put down this time ramp?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (35:00):
I feel like for us as a team, we just
just need to really make a good cart where obviously
you guys saw last year it was very abrasive and
chewed up the tires and you had a standout team
with Triple Ad and the Dry on Sunday that just dominated.
So I feel like if it rains again will be
quite good because we were very good there last year.
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But we just need to work out a bit of
race car for the longer distance. But all in all,
really excited to get back to Taupo. It's an awesome track.
I feel like it's a really cool atmosphere there last year,
and I feel like it's going to get even bigger
this year.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
So I can't wait to get back.
Speaker 9 (35:40):
And yet hopefully it gets to the glory days like
old Punky used to be.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Like walking Shore Andrew to United de Pedler from their
mobile truck assessed Mustang. It's the number two, I add.
It's a strange old year, isn't it, Ryan, Because at
the end of the year there was a final series.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
It's gone all NASCAR on it. You got your head
around that.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Yet, the way it works, what the top drivers end
up competing in the last three races for that top
prize a little difficult to expect for the fan base
to actually stomach.
Speaker 9 (36:12):
Yeah, it's different, but I think it's exciting. I think
you're going to see more desperate racing, and I think
that's good for our sport. I think it's going to
be more desperate all the way down to tenth because
if you get to tenth and then you make it
into the to the finals, then you end up being
really fast than the last four rounds, you can end
up winning the championship, you know, And I feel like
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that opens it up to so many different different teams,
And to be honest, it's it's not much different to
a final system in a rugby or something like that competition,
you know.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
So I feel like it's pretty fair and pretty exciting.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Race one, two and three, first round of the camp
over in Sydney be touched on that. But you stalled
in race too, And if there's a scarier moment in motorsport,
I think stalling on the start grid is probably Yet
you didn't get clipped, but you must have been squeezing
for a while there when that happened, going oh oh
here we go.
Speaker 9 (37:09):
Yeah, definitely pretty nerve wracking moment.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Yeah, hopefully first then last time stalling.
Speaker 9 (37:15):
But yeah, unfortunately the clutch failed on loading on the
loading phase and yeah it just was a passenger from there.
But you know, we fixed it for Sunday and yeah,
hopefully get some good starts at the Grand Prix.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
What about the start race, I mean, you qualified well
what seventh places you see it, but you kind of
almost ran out of steam toward the end of it,
didn't You just didn't.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Quite carry on with that pace?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
What was the issue there?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
What has to change?
Speaker 6 (37:40):
Yeah, Like on Saturday we were really good.
Speaker 9 (37:43):
We were racing Will Brown there for a while and
sort of looking quite good and good stead for a
good result. And then yeah, we just missed the window
a little bit on pitting and tried to do two
ties and make the time back, but unfortunately the car
balance just went away, and you know, it's very hard
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around that track. And then Saturday obviously still and then
Sunday just got bit up in the first two laps
and yeah, we undercuted a few cars and managed to get.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Back to fourteenth.
Speaker 9 (38:13):
But yeah, I don't know, all know, it's it's one
of those weekends where you just go, well, at the
end of the day, we didn't get everything perfect and
we're fourteenth. I would have been more gutted if I
I was to say I got our team and I
and myself got everything perfect and we were fourteenth.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
You'd be pretty gutted.
Speaker 9 (38:33):
But we've got plenty of stuff to improve on, which
is exciting, and yeah, we'll just try to put our foot.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Forward and one last thing for you Ryan would I
know it's only Ely Dawes did touch on it before
and I mean that was a crazy drag race with
Cam Water.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Is hold on? Who did cam drag race?
Speaker 3 (38:51):
I think it was?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Was it race number two?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:54):
It was wasn't it? That was mad? But three from
three from three?
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Who beats the guy?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Is it Thomas rand or is it man Payin? Is
it Musted? Is it is it Brown? Where does the
challenge come from?
Speaker 9 (39:05):
Hopefully myself that's the goal. Hopefully the Grand Prix will
be good. I live in the Albert Park, so hopefully
a bit of home track advantage. But no, I think
anybody can stop him. I don't think he's Yeah, I
think it's just going to be like that all year.
I think it's going to be wide open. But I
think cam Cam just drove very well and they obviously
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had their car tuned in, but you saw it wasn't
easy for him, especially in race too, So I think
it shows that it's still wide open even if you
do have the fastest car.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
It's your home track. Please don't tell me.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
You get out on the weekend and we smalls and
squirt around the track, just having a crack.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
You don't do you you behave yourself?
Speaker 6 (39:45):
Right, yeah, I behave myself. I wouldn't do that, so
I want to keep my job and your license.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Ryan would there joining us? I love that d through
the end. Who's going to really or me?
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I'm going to do it? Okay? Fine? Sorry, yep, right,
put in your place.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
It's been old night of that, which I don't mind
at all. Ryme Wood currently sitting fourteenth in the championship
races still to come a couple of weeks away before
the Melbourne Super Sprint, that of course, is part of
the package that is the Melbourne Grand Prix, the start
of the Formula One season, and then the action comes
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to Toeports the ITM toeportse Super four forty and it's
the eleventh to the thirteenth of April. Tickets will sell quick.
Not sure how much they've got there, but there is
a number of different packages you can pick up, just
general admission tickets and you can go right the way
through the big old fancy pants pitt Lane experience that
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cost you an art in a leg, but I'm sure
it's worth it all great times last year, I see
no reason why it wouldn't be any different this time
around as well, and thanks Ryan Wood for joining us
on the program. One of five New Zealand drivers at Supercars.
Seems like ages ago since Scott mcgloughlin and Shane Van
Giersberg and those boys were owning it over there. Yeah huh.
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Now they've gone on to bigger and brighter things. IndyCar NASCAR.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Got their start here.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Thank you A Milice for producing the program. Thanks to
our guests on the program. Simografts is the CEO of
Chiefs Rugby. Mine would be supercar driver Max Laice is
up next. Always enjoy Marcus on the ride home brings
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me great pleasure. I hope it does for you too,
and Darcy Watergrave cat you tomorrow from seven Good Evening.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
If you are, I'm sure you will be seven minutes
up to seven on a Thursday night, twenty seventh February
twenty twenty five. Tonight's program, we're going to look at
supercars because I can, and we're going to look at
play McMillan. He's fleeing what it's hardly fair. He's not
really running away from anything. He's off to monster. He
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caught a lot of people by surprise. One more year
in charge of the Chiefs and then it's Seida Powell.
I'm off to experience the wonders of Northern Hemisphere and
Irish Rugby. He probably enjoyed the Guinness a little too
much when he's over there with the All Blacks fifteen
late last year. And to talk about that. Shortly, the
(01:02):
CEO of the Chief Simon Grafis, joins us at the timeline.
What happens next? Was he a good coach? How much
are they going to miss him? And so on and
so forth, and then we'll take your calls on eight
hundred eighty ten eighty talking about what Clayton McMillan has
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brought to the party. Is he a successful coach and
what denote success in Super rugby? Are we going to
miss him? Lots of questions and you can provide lots
of answers. And Ryan would Va supercar driver, a young
man who had his debut year last year, terrible start
to a season, a couple of DNFs, but this year
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he's turned it around a tad.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Talked to him about.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Supercars, the upcoming season and of course the launch of
topor the third round of it this season.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
A place you did reasonably? Will it last year?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
That's what our master plan is. But before we fully
engaged in that cartage, let's do something.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Something that we do with.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Alarming regularity.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Here It is sport today and in sport today. Clayton
McMillan enjoyed his time in.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Munster so much with the All Black fifteen.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Enjoyed it so much as going back for more of
the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Grand Pooba will cut short his a mulu Esh contract
at the end of the Super Rugby Pacific Tournament and
boost to the Emerald Isle into our general manager of
professional rugby crist Lendrum. It's pretty sure he'll be back,
though with a big fat doss here.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
We would love to get the benefit of what he's
about to learn at Munster and in Europe coming back
to us at some point in the future, and I
think he's got every intention of coaching in New Zealand again.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Qucomber Cool ravishing. Rick Ravendra is pragmatic, albeit modest around
his One Dame's national form. He's the first person to
wack a century on debut at the ODI World Cup
and their first crack of the champions trophy.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Unique Honestly, I just think it's been good with us
to dat on and I've been given opportunities to play
at the top of the order and that's been really
enjoyable and for me it's exciting to have a campaign
and a tournament and a hopeful trophy to work towards.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Phoenix Cafe Gan Carlo chiefy Youtelliano has spoken of his
team's slothful A League season so far.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It's a fair tam Is that fair?
Speaker 6 (03:33):
We've had several turning points in the last three or
four weeks. It probably runs with the theme of how
our season's going at the moment, you know, we're not
getting the rubb of the ground, but so not an excuse.
They still won six to one and deservedly.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Well.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
It kind of is an excuse partially, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Am I wrong? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
And Josh Geary has gotten off to a good start
of the ins and open put himself in a good
position for tomorrow's second round at Karinet. He shot five
under at the remarkables and in teens on charging harder.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Probably like it better to be honest.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Over the last few years, I've played that more. I
know what to do.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
The weathers day has come a little bit of a shootout.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So you're just got to keep your foot down and
he has a lot of baddies and that's.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
It.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Is eleven minutes after seven. This is News Talk ZB
Sports Talk. I'm Darcy Waltergraver going to talk a bit
of rugby union now talking about Clayton McMillan, and we
are joined by Simon Grafis. He is the CEO of
the White Couple Chiefs and Simon welcome.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's a it's a it's a big day for the club.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Yeah, it is a big club, hey, And just to
clarify it's not just the Wakado Chiefs were obviously whole
Chiefs Region which is one of them. But yeah, happy,
happy to happy to carry on.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I think that's very important that you define that and
you've made a lot of Chiefs fans very happy.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
My apologies, that's all good.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
Yeah, but yeah, big day for the club in terms
of obviously the news that break today around around Clayton,
then yeah, he's certainly been had a massive presence with
the club and although disappointed, it's also we do celebrate
that stuff too. You know. We in a lot of ways,
we're here to developed players and coaches and it's good
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to see them go on to bigger and better things
and hopefully we're you know, we're an important part of
that development cycle.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
How long have you known?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
How long has it been chatted about, because obviously he
had to peel away from his contract. We're at the
club and end z are so long negotiations signing.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
No, I don't think it's been that long. And look,
Clayton and I have got a really good, good relationship
and Clayton's kept me informed right from when it was
highly unlikely. But as the process has gone through, it
seems to have got more and more likely until sort of,
you know, last week it was like jeep as this
thing looks like it's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Quite a distraction.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'd expect for everybody pretty good to get it out
of the way now before we get our hands on
it and start circulating rumors.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Right ah, And look to me, that's what we you know,
we were we were actually planning on trying to trying
to keep a lid on it until our by around.
We thought that would be a better way to deal
with in terms of the team. But it is what
it is, so therefore we've just set to front foot
and just come out with it. But yeah, look, I
hope we want to minimize the distraction the team of
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you know, they've got to focus week to week and
if they do a job each week, then then we
might be in a position to have a crack at
another title.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
You know, I'm presuming they approached him or did he
have feel as out looking to advance his career.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
I'm not one hundred percent sure, but obviously Clayton was
up in Ireland with the All Black fifteen and they
played Monster, so I imagine he probably you know, we've
got a John Ryan came down to play for the
club a couple of seasons ago. Alex Nankevill's up there.
There are a couple of other players that he's coached,
so he knows some of them. He I don't know.
(07:00):
It's while he was up there, I imagine he probably
he might have. He might have made some connections. Yeah,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
They pretty small area rugby coaching rugby players. Every one
talks that operates. Simon Grafis joins the CEO of the Chiefs.
Did you try and keep them?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Did you resist?
Speaker 7 (07:18):
Look, we obviously wanted to want to keep Clayton. He
was coming towards the end of his contract though, and
Edolays made it pretty clear that he wanted to you know,
he was keen to go off and see what else
he could do. I mean, yeah, I personally I would
have been pretty keen to keep him. But like I say,
we're pretty proud of what he's achieved.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
You said before, Simon that it's very much as sort
of development club because you're there to win titles. But
there's a lot of trains that going on, with players
advancing and with coaches advancing as well. He happy with that.
As a club in the way things work through.
Speaker 7 (07:56):
Well, I think it's just part and parcel of it,
you know, Like in terms of players, you'd probably have
up to twenty percent of players normally change each season,
and there's an element of always changed. At a coaching group,
I think, you know, the head coach is probably a
little bit different. But if you have a lookover history,
you know, five years out of a head coach is
actually probably a good run. So as a club, we
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have to have plans in place for succession for all
our roles, whether that's head coach, the rest of the
coaching group, players, back off of staff, you know, like,
so we need to we need to make sure that
we've got things in place to carry on past any
one person.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Oh, it's interested in the nature of contracts in the
sporting world. They don't appear to actually mean a great deal.
You've got to walk away from them if it suits you.
Is that a fair thing to say? Contracts aren't really that.
They don't stick people to their roles, do they.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Ah?
Speaker 7 (08:52):
No, I'm not sure about that, because I mean, you're
looking they don't want to get into the technicalities of it.
But Clayton was contracted here till till the end of
twenty six, but he actually had an exit clause at
the end of twenty five, so he's actually what he's
doing is actually inligned with his contract, so there's no
he's not walking away from anything. He always had an
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option to get out of it. Hoped I'd hoped obviously
that he would have done the full term, But so
this is probably just a year earlier than we're probably
what we're planning for.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
What happens now.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You are plenty going to try and strive to win
this elusive title for the club and Clayton McMillan, When
do you start looking for a replacement? Who do you
talk to around that? Have you already done that? What
is that process Simon to find the next man off
the rank?
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Yeah, look, that's a great question. But look we're pretty
focused on making sure this isn't a big distraction. So
I think the key thing for us is to keep
everyone aligned with what they've got to do week by week,
and then we will go through a process once we've
finished the season, done our review process, and then go
through go through a process for head coach.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Would you like it to be an internal promotion, is
that likely or you open it up to everybody consumed
both here in a way.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
I think we've got you know, a personal view at
this stage is I think we've got really good capability internally. Yeah,
and so I think there's some really good contenders internally.
So yeah, I think what happens in the next in
the next twelve to fourteen weeks will probably probably you know,
it could well determine where we end up.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I think he's been a success simon when you look
across well it will be five years into the season
that he's coached in Hamilton coach the Chiefs. A successful tenure.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Absolutely, I think I think there's another media outlet today.
I mean he's got the highest highest winning winning ratio
out of any coach, any super coach. So I think
his recorded it self speak speaks for itself. And you
know what people won't have seen is what he's actually
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also done in the club. So he's been a big
part of a focus on the whole organization and culture
and values. So he's been he's been a big part
of that. Those that have watched Tony Fahre and Leish
on TVs Plus will have will have probably seen the
presence of that. So you're just a little bit of
a plug for plug for the doc.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Absolutely going and take a look. Good value he development wise,
he would have had a lot to play in that.
So his legacy will live on through bringing through the younger,
less experienced players.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I'm presuming.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Yeah, Yeah, and there's and there's a look, there's a
whole coaching group and Pathways team that that work on
that as well. And but obviously Clayton's the figure then
he drives the style of how they play and and
and the specific culture that's in the rugby and the
rugby team.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
But like I said, I think we all and the
Clayton Clayton has been conscious of working on that too,
is how do how do we set the organization up
to succeed even even when certain individuals aren't are no
longer with us.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, get away from local coaching. They always say you
got a coach overseas to get that job. Presuming from
what you know of Clayton, he's a fairly he wants
to do very very well. Is this another step toward
the top job in New Zealand rugby is an ambitious character.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Yeah, I mean, I think that seems to have been
almost proven pathway for coaches, so you know, I think
that'll probably be that that's part of the logic of
him doing that that New Zealand Rugby is often in
encourage the coaches to go off shore and get off
your experience, and yeah, a good, good opportunity to give
give an experience to his family, I think too. You know,
he's given a lot, a lot of time to New
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Ziana rugby and yeah, island's not the west part of
the world to go and spend some time.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
No, it looks like a very popular destined nation.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I tell you what.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
This is going to put a rocket up the players,
not that they haven't gone it already. Would an amazing
start to the season to see Clayton McMillan off as
a success after what a few finals not quite getting
it over the line.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
There'd be some great energy around this from the team.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
Yeah, you'd hope. So, I mean, I don't think that's
shorter motivation, but yeah, it might. It might be might
add a little bit, and you'd hope. You know, there's
a huge amount of respect from everyone from the board
through the through to the playing group, to the back
office team. So yeah, I think everyone everyone's pretty keen
to make sure that Clayton and and the others. That
are a few other key people who are finishing this.
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You two would be nice to see them off with
a you know, with a trophy or something.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Fantastic work there, Thank you very much. Simon Grafts.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
There, here's the CEO of the Chiefs, not the white
couple Chiefs. I don't want to get put in place
by our guests and well done rightly, so they're the Chiefs.
Maybe tag them with their sponsor able to sharance. Simon
the CEO of the.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Side has just lost their coach. Yikes.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Claate McMillan is off understandably five years at the helm
of the Chiefs. Can I say no success or is
that incredibly cruel? I'm still trying to work this out.
I talk about Ian Foster failing at the World Cup
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and some people are like, dude, that's really cruel. You
can't say that he took the team to the finals.
Will you be lost? We don't deal with lost very
well in his Zealand rugby and I'm talking to rugby
fans here, rugby fans of Super Rugby and you look
at what Clayton McMillan has done. Yeah, and astonishing when
last record appears in final after final and semi finals.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
But what does he have to show for it? Nothing?
Your first or your last? Right, you don't.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Compete for I mean the Olympics to compete for a
silver medal, but anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Do you compete to run? No, you don't.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I'm sure infuriates him and gets under his skin. And
you'd like to think that this is the year he
gets the trophy and walks away going there you go,
I told you five years bang after months to now
will he be missed? Is this the right move for
Clayton McMillan.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I think it is.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I think it's the only move. I think it's the
best move. It's the move that all coaches who have
got all black aspirations should consider and then put it
into action when they can.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Well.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Oh, it took a long long time for Razor. In fact,
can you ever win anywhere?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
He just stayed here.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And grumped it out until he got the job. But
the general thought processes you do very well throughout maybe
schools and then clubs and then op to MPC level
then you go to super level and then the tariff
overseas and coach a big club over there or maybe
you know, Whales or something like that, and then you
come wandering back. So I think it's necessary. I think
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it's a good move. I think he will be missed.
But the regeneration of ideas, of enthusiasm, of attitude of
personnel is the key to clubs or franchises to carry
on progression and look towards winning things. And the only
argument there is what didn't happen with Razor? As soon
as he left it all turned pair shape. Maybe he
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was just a freak. I think players will miss them,
the club will miss them.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
But this is the right move.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
I believe this is the way you do. And you
put yourself into an uncomfortable zone, uncomfortable space, challenge yourself
somewhere else completely differently, and look up and look forward.
That's a great move for Clayton McMillan.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Do you think it is?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I do, and good on you, and I look you know,
I'm a fan of a red and black team. I
can't help myself for I was born down there. This
thing sticks with you. It's like, you know, excrement and
bare foot. It's really hard to what you just can't get.
I'm stuck here as a great lader. I would love
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to see Clayton McMillan walk away with a championship. I
just think he's been an amazing coach. He's been a
great person to deal with. I'd love to see.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Him go.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
And maybe that's just what the Chiefs need after the
great starts like let's not let's not cough it up now.
I eight hundred eighty ten eighty Will.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
He be missed? Is this the right move?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I got more questions for you after that as well,
but I want to stick with those two.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Let us know. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty progression.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Good on your Clayton, well done.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
WIV eight Sports Talk ere and Newstalk's ABI eight hundred
and eighty ten At clay McMillan's it apart from Munster
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at the end of this Super Rugby.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Season.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Right move for him? I'm still trying to work out.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Well.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I've been reading articles as you do.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
For tendency two.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I love reading what New Zealand heralds Gregor Paul has
to write about New Zealand rugby. You think he comes
up with some fantastic points that are well worth laboring over.
I'm not sure if I agree with this one, and
this sits in with the Clayton McMillan situation. The headline
on his story is that New Zealand and Rugby are
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struggling to retain top leaders. There's an exodus of coaches.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
The drive behind end Zar is to keep.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
The best players, but what about the best coaches.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
The things?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
He can't keep them all. It's not possible, and New
Zealand will generate fantastic coaching talent that may come back
to bite us.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
But coaches have.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
To know they've got a career path, and that career
path might not necessarily be here in New Zealand, and
they can take that ip off shore and hopefully they
get more of a season bring it back over here again.
But there's only one pop job and there's nothing New
Zealand Rugby can do about that. I mean, assistant all
black coach. Sure sounds good, asked Leo on McDonald.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
How enjoyable it is? He didn't last long.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
So the fact that Clayton's going this is good in
the fact that it's a turnover as a room for
other coaches to grow and experience super rugby, which is
basically the top level they can experience sort of international rugby.
They you shift people along or they shift themselves along.
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It creates new space for new routes to come through,
like with players.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Injured. Are can't have all the coaches. It's not possible.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Even if they get a roll like the New Zealand
All Black fifteen like Clayton McMillan. God, it's fun for
a year, but after that and I don't want the
bigger job. I don't think there's an exodus. I think
it's just a necessary shedding and that will always happen.
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And maybe by that process of elimination you end up
with the best that stay. But it's often hear the
best are the ones that go away and come back.
I don't think there's an exodus of coaches. I think
there's coaches out there who want to work and they
have no choice and they can't stay here.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
There's nothing for them to do. What are they going
to do? In saying that, when you do start.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Life as a coach, I'm sure most coaches started off
because they enjoyed the process.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
One of the kids, there.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Are no guarantees about where you're going and the security
of your job. Looking into the future. There's many aren'ts
like being a rugby player, and it's not he'seeing rugby's
job to support everyone to be coach. Right, they'll put
a structure up help that the players out and a
lot of players can be employed.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Maybe not so much the coaches, which leads on to
the next question.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Who replaces him? I read a poll on the Herald
around who should come up next? Joe Schmidt's favorite amongst
the respondents to the pole. Another couple of names that
jumped up were Leo McDonald okay, and other name is
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Ross Filipo. Now here's a guy on the ups coached
through the stages as an assistant coach.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
That makes more sense to me and than another name
thrown around as Warren Gatlan.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I think the Chiefs will be insane to go backward
and look, there's no doubt that Joe Schmidt is class.
We've seen what he does. But Joe Schmidt does it
for a bit, then wants to spend more time with
his family, which is quite welcome.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
To do.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
His decision.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
But is that progressive, forward thinking move from the Chiefs
because it's a place saver, more of an assistant coach
to help out. Warren Gatlin is not the future. He
wasn't two years ago and the last gave him the job,
or however long ago.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
It was.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Five years Leo McDonald.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Maybe will that be enough for him after coaching at
the Blues.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I don't know, so many questions, so a little answers.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I think it's great that McMillan's going. I'm pleased as
hell for them. I don't think New Zealand and Rugby
are taking a body blow here because they simply can't
apploy all the coaches out that it is not possible
who replaces them. I have no idea your thoughts, Oh,
I'd had an eight ten eighty con text nineteen ninet
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two that is z B Z to B, and we'll
run through some of those texts for you. Shortly you're
on Sports Talk.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
You can see.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Don't you race?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Car driver Ryan Wood that joins the program eventually talking supercars,
one of five peddlers involved in.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Supercars changing the season as well this year.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
As far as the fight the playoffs, OK a NASCAR
situation at the end, it's not the man with the
most points at the end of the season wins, they
are going to funnel down into a finals series. Find
that a bit about that hopefully with Ryan up next,
A had a bit more interest to what is allow
me anyway.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's very interesting series. Love my Supercars.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Run through some text now our nineteen nine two ZBZB
they'll a track the standard text charge Darcy. The ends
that are and their fluid contracts have given anyols and
their lawyers a great defense and the lawsuit ever want
out of a contract. That's sweet as you see, but
has pointed out when we talked with Simon out of
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the Chiefs before, he actually had an exit clause already
in his contract that he triggered. So it wasn't walking away.
He thought, I'll be here X amount of times and
maybe the sixth there might be too much. I might
find something else, so I'll set that go. But you're
right in the form of contracts are very loose. There's
always a way out of them some way, I think
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in Injedr's situation though, as if any signed deal to
pay you money and then they walch on and don't
give you any money. They said you want together after
you've provided the services he said you would. They've maybe
got a bit a few more legs to stand on Darcy,
I think Warren Gatlan might be available again.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
No, no, no, no, and no.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Say that all of the Chiefs fans had a great career,
did some incredible things that they're the operative words hadn't did.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
Not anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Now the text week It sucks that half of his
losses came in the finals, but he did turn around
the Chief's longest losing streak. All the best to him
that what does that say to you about a coach
where they're winning lots of games, they're winning a high
percentage of games, but in the fixtures that really count
they drop ball literally and figuratively. Does this mean they're
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a good coach or only a good coach to a degree?
How much baggage do you hang around the neck of
the coach when that happens as opposed to what the
players should accept is their problem? This debate will go
on for any and ever. Amen, it's a good one. Obviously,
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part of him leaving is the law of the salary
that would have been part of his decision. Good on him,
but will he takes some Chiefs with him? We will
see I think, keV.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I'm not entirely sure where that came from. It the ego,
it's there. Whatever the music says, the music does.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
We'll come back shortly with Ryan Wood here on News Talks.
He'd be eighteen minutes to eight Sports talk here on
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news Talks.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Thereb right, we're just round the corner.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Young man running the HB cars went last year.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Back in the.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Seat again walking raw Walking, Shaw Andretta united as the team.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
He is in join us shortly before we go to that.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Just a couple of quick text me thanks very much
for sending these in, and I've completely lost them. I
believe that's the kind of last hour I've been having.
But that's all right, ah Darcy for sure. Oh mate,
Joe Smith all the way. But will Gatland's why couple
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history give him the front running? No, sorry, Warren's had
his day, but thank you for that, cheers Shane. Well.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I think that's true.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
But a big decision to be made. But I suppose
the big thing for the chiefs now is to focus
on the here and the now and not worry about
what happens next. Right, let's get away from that. Let's
talk about of Motor Sport now and we are joined
by the aforementioned Ryan Wood.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Ryan joins us now today.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Mate, how are you?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I'm very well and I suppose not quite as good
as you because you're a full time racer in supercars
and you're into year two now. Ryan runs for Walking
Shaw Andretta United. He's running the mobile truck Assess number
two car, the Mustang. And Ryan, you got off to
a much better start in Sydney than you did last
year in Baththurst.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
You must be happy enough about that.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Yeah, obviously a bit better start.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
It's always nice when you leave around one with some
points in hands. So yes, in the championship, not really
where I want to be, but like I said, it
gives me a bit of a platform to roll into
to round two with and then obviously after that we
have Taupo. So I'm really excited to get back here
to New Zealand and race in front of a home
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crowd and yeah, hopefully that'll that'll give me a bit
of extra spirit because I definitely know what did last year,
so can't wait to get back here. And you know,
obviously to start the season a little bit better is
a nice way to kick off twenty twenty five and
and my second year in the main game, So yeah,
bring it on.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
You're feeling a little more comfortable about where you sit
now look at that top tree where you were sitting
right now. And it's often said that the older guys
team to bully the younger guys because they're just not
experienced with these supercars and how they operate. And it's
pretty easy to qualify high, but dropped down guys aren't
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just used to their elbows being out. Do you experience
that in the first year that that rookie feel.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
I think it even goes into year two where they
definitely don't just back down. So it's I think that's
what makes supercars so tough and what makes it hard
for the young guys coming in.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
It's not exactly just the qualifying sort of stuff, but
it's the racing.
Speaker 9 (30:30):
You know, you've got guys, even on my teammate chairs
Brodie Kisticki, there's so many good guys that are hard races,
that don't just lie down when you try to go
for a move. So I think that's what makes it
really really tough and what makes supercars so exciting to
watch and I feel like Sydney was one of those
weekends where I feel like Supercars is coming back to
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its best with the action on track and even off track.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
So you reckon it just eased up a wee bit
over the last couple of years. You probably can't say
that you'll get sacked, but maybe it's a little heavier
than it was the previous couple of additions.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Is that fair?
Speaker 6 (31:09):
I wouldn't say it was eased up.
Speaker 9 (31:11):
I feel like there was always probably a dominant factor
or a dominant driver in previous years, where now it
feels like it's a bit more open and saying that
cam Water is just one three from three. But I
feel like, you know, even when someone is that dominant,
you look how hard he had to work on Saturday
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night in that race with Brock, Like it's yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Definitely not just it's weird.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
You know, you have those those times where the main
driver or like the guy to beat sort of just
goes past everyone and they sort of let him go past.
Where now I feel like it doesn't matter who it is,
they just battle for any position all the way down
to twenty four to twenty fifth, you know, So I
think that's what makes it quite exciting to be a
part of right now as well.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I'd suggest the Aussie drivers and I know the supercar
fans are fit up to the back teeth about being
schooled by key drivers. You guys been over there a
while now, you slap them around with e so I
expect what is five of you on the grid. I'm
sure that gives them a little extra when they're looking after.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
You in these races. Not only are you a rookie ish,
but you're a Kiwi. They must hate that. Ryan.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
It's definitely.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
Not the easiest sometimes when you've got the Kiwi flag
on the side of the car. But at the end
of the day, you know, I love representing our country
and it's pretty cool to be over there doing that,
and you know, have so much support from other Kiwi
drivers or from all different areas, so it's cool to
be a part of. And you know, obviously being with
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walking Shaw and dred United to come from to be
racing for that team and be guided by Grig Murphy
where he raced for them for so many years, it's
pretty special to be on us.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Not a bad acceleration for you to wie you sit
right now? What Twitter eighty six back in twenty twenty,
ran that for a couple of years. Then I think
you're in Super two and twenty three did well, and
suddenly you find yourself in the main game. Did you
expect to rise that quickly line?
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Definitely not.
Speaker 9 (33:19):
I feel like it's a pretty surreal feeling to be
where I've always wanted to be for so many years.
But it happened so fast for me at the same time,
so it's sort of weird. I remember doing my first
race in cars in twenty twenty and then all of
a sudden, I think it was start of twenty twenty two,
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end of twenty twenty one, I was moving.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
To Australia to raise Porsches.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
So it's yeah, happened pretty quickly, and you know, some
days it's probably a good thing, and some days it's
a bad thing because you know, I probably haven't had
the amount of experience some other guys have had to
get to supercars. But nonetheless I'm taking them with both
hands and just trying to trying to take it by
the scruff of the neck and try to get some
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good results.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
You know, it's spent a bit of time, you said
over to run porches with El Bamba, didn't you.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 9 (34:17):
So I won the Portion New Zealand Scholarship and that
was an awesome program thanks to Giltrap Group and they're
awesome team there and was able to get over to
Australia and probably without them, I wouldn't be in the
position I am now. So it's you know, obviously Earl's
had a great relationship with them for so long and
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then for them to the start the Porstione New Zealand program,
it's pretty special to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You mentioned topol before. It's a massive race.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
It's a crazy old track and when it blows and
the pummus turns up, I suggest it's like no other
from last year.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
What changes for you? Do you believe? What can you
put down this time ramp?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (35:00):
I feel like for us as a team, we just
just need to really make a good cart where obviously
you guys saw last year it was very abrasive and
chewed up the tires and you had a standout team
with Triple Ad and the Dry on Sunday that just dominated.
So I feel like if it rains again will be
quite good because we were very good there last year.
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But we just need to work out a bit of
race car for the longer distance. But all in all,
really excited to get back to Taupo. It's an awesome track.
I feel like it's a really cool atmosphere there last year,
and I feel like it's going to get even bigger
this year.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
So I can't wait to get back.
Speaker 9 (35:40):
And yet hopefully it gets to the glory days like
old Punky used to be.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Like walking Shore Andrew to United de Pedler from their
mobile truck assessed Mustang. It's the number two, I add.
It's a strange old year, isn't it, Ryan, Because at
the end of the year there was a final series.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
It's gone all NASCAR on it. You got your head
around that.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Yet, the way it works, what the top drivers end
up competing in the last three races for that top
prize a little difficult to expect for the fan base
to actually stomach.
Speaker 9 (36:12):
Yeah, it's different, but I think it's exciting. I think
you're going to see more desperate racing, and I think
that's good for our sport. I think it's going to
be more desperate all the way down to tenth because
if you get to tenth and then you make it
into the to the finals, then you end up being
really fast than the last four rounds, you can end
up winning the championship, you know, And I feel like
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that opens it up to so many different different teams,
And to be honest, it's it's not much different to
a final system in a rugby or something like that competition,
you know.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
So I feel like it's pretty fair and pretty exciting.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Race one, two and three, first round of the camp
over in Sydney be touched on that. But you stalled
in race too, And if there's a scarier moment in motorsport,
I think stalling on the start grid is probably Yet
you didn't get clipped, but you must have been squeezing
for a while there when that happened, going oh oh
here we go.
Speaker 9 (37:09):
Yeah, definitely pretty nerve wracking moment.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Yeah, hopefully first then last time stalling.
Speaker 9 (37:15):
But yeah, unfortunately the clutch failed on loading on the
loading phase and yeah it just was a passenger from there.
But you know, we fixed it for Sunday and yeah,
hopefully get some good starts at the Grand Prix.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
What about the start race, I mean, you qualified well
what seventh places you see it, but you kind of
almost ran out of steam toward the end of it,
didn't You just didn't.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Quite carry on with that pace?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
What was the issue there?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
What has to change?
Speaker 6 (37:40):
Yeah, Like on Saturday we were really good.
Speaker 9 (37:43):
We were racing Will Brown there for a while and
sort of looking quite good and good stead for a
good result. And then yeah, we just missed the window
a little bit on pitting and tried to do two
ties and make the time back, but unfortunately the car
balance just went away, and you know, it's very hard
(38:03):
around that track. And then Saturday obviously still and then
Sunday just got bit up in the first two laps
and yeah, we undercuted a few cars and managed to get.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Back to fourteenth.
Speaker 9 (38:13):
But yeah, I don't know, all know, it's it's one
of those weekends where you just go, well, at the
end of the day, we didn't get everything perfect and
we're fourteenth. I would have been more gutted if I
I was to say I got our team and I
and myself got everything perfect and we were fourteenth.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
You'd be pretty gutted.
Speaker 9 (38:33):
But we've got plenty of stuff to improve on, which
is exciting, and yeah, we'll just try to put our foot.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Forward and one last thing for you Ryan would I
know it's only Ely Dawes did touch on it before
and I mean that was a crazy drag race with
Cam Water.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Is hold on? Who did cam drag race?
Speaker 3 (38:51):
I think it was?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Was it race number two?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:54):
It was wasn't it? That was mad? But three from
three from three?
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Who beats the guy?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Is it Thomas rand or is it man Payin? Is
it Musted? Is it is it Brown? Where does the
challenge come from?
Speaker 9 (39:05):
Hopefully myself that's the goal. Hopefully the Grand Prix will
be good. I live in the Albert Park, so hopefully
a bit of home track advantage. But no, I think
anybody can stop him. I don't think he's Yeah, I
think it's just going to be like that all year.
I think it's going to be wide open. But I
think cam Cam just drove very well and they obviously
(39:27):
had their car tuned in, but you saw it wasn't
easy for him, especially in race too, So I think
it shows that it's still wide open even if you
do have the fastest car.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
It's your home track. Please don't tell me.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
You get out on the weekend and we smalls and
squirt around the track, just having a crack.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
You don't do you you behave yourself?
Speaker 6 (39:45):
Right, yeah, I behave myself. I wouldn't do that, so
I want to keep my job and your license.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Ryan would there joining us? I love that d through
the end. Who's going to really or me?
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I'm going to do it? Okay? Fine? Sorry, yep, right,
put in your place.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
It's been old night of that, which I don't mind
at all. Ryme Wood currently sitting fourteenth in the championship
races still to come a couple of weeks away before
the Melbourne Super Sprint, that of course, is part of
the package that is the Melbourne Grand Prix, the start
of the Formula One season, and then the action comes
(40:21):
to Toeports the ITM toeportse Super four forty and it's
the eleventh to the thirteenth of April. Tickets will sell quick.
Not sure how much they've got there, but there is
a number of different packages you can pick up, just
general admission tickets and you can go right the way
through the big old fancy pants pitt Lane experience that
(40:45):
cost you an art in a leg, but I'm sure
it's worth it all great times last year, I see
no reason why it wouldn't be any different this time
around as well, and thanks Ryan Wood for joining us
on the program. One of five New Zealand drivers at Supercars.
Seems like ages ago since Scott mcgloughlin and Shane Van
Giersberg and those boys were owning it over there. Yeah huh.
(41:07):
Now they've gone on to bigger and brighter things. IndyCar NASCAR.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Got their start here.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Thank you A Milice for producing the program. Thanks to
our guests on the program. Simografts is the CEO of
Chiefs Rugby. Mine would be supercar driver Max Laice is
up next. Always enjoy Marcus on the ride home brings
(41:41):
me great pleasure. I hope it does for you too,
and Darcy Watergrave cat you tomorrow from seven Good Evening.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
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