March 6, 2025 • 10 mins
The Black Caps have secured their ticket to the Champions Trophy final in emphatic fashion.
They beat the Proteas by 50 runs in the semifinal and will now face India in the final on Sunday night.
Opening batsman Rachin Ravindra spoke to D'Arcy Waldegrave on Sportstalk.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Wildergrave
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be let's get into a bit of cricket and
why would we not celebrate who will be celebrate? Worth well?
Quite frankly the star of the game, although there were
plenty of them. It was a genuine team effort last
night as the proteust just didn't have enough in the
barrel to deal with what the black Caps released. We
(00:32):
joined now by a man that scored has fifth ton
and white ball I see see tournaments managed to roll
his arm over to great effects as well. His name
is a Ruction Revenger. He joins us now, Good evening, Rutchian.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Hey, good morning, Darcy. How are you not?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
While I'm really quite happy, but not as happy as
you and the team first and foremost, because it is
a team game. The flight back and away down to Dubai,
it must have been very satisfying for you all.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I mean it's always a great feeling being able to
want to knock out a game of.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Cricket and books off the place in the final.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
But I think more was just the emphatic fashion that
we did it, and the complete team performance was extremely pleasing.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You say complete team performance. I don't think that is
an overstatement at all. Everybody's positions, everybody's roles, they all
applied and it all worked out. Could you even believe
what was happening out there? Like, you're not like scored
five hundred runs, but to a man, everybody performed.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
But I think that's been the theme of the BLACKFS
team throughout the Champions Trophy entry series. You know, the
roles are clear, anyone sort of executing the skills, well,
we know that sometimes happens, sometimes doesn't, but you know,
everyone's clear about what they're supposed to do and it's
worked out reasonly well, and that's when the cool part
and seeing it all come together.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Guys worked really well, worked quite hard during the start,
Will Young You know they put together a reasonable partnership
to start, but it probably wasn't as easy as it
looked insily. There was some mucky there wasn't there.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
To get through. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I think really well at the top and bother very straight,
didn't really give us much to score and then broke
the shackles.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
But it's actually Younger.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
You hit a couple of nice, nice shots to get
us going, and I followed soon and we're just able
to build a nice partnership going forward.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Your relationship and partnership with Caine Williamson, they talked about
the Master and the Apprentice. Was there a touch of
that about that.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Or about that?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
It's still a very, very very long way to be
even considering an apprentice that came with episodes.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
But he's unbelievable to bet with. I really enjoy.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I think we've shared some core partnerships over the last
year and a half, and you know, it's special to
be able to bet with one of my idols and
witness a truly world class player in full flight.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
At the other end, I was talking to former black
Caps coach John Bracewell today and John said, the difference
in the way you apply yourself when Caine's at the crease,
it's market It's almost like he brings a big calm
around what you're doing and you play beyond joy years.
Is that a fair enough statement? Russian?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Ah, I'm not sure. I haven't really thought too much
about it.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Maybe just because he's a coming presidence, he brings the
serenity to the crease, and maybe it helps me out
to him, and maybe it's a little bit of I
don't want to let him down because he's player of us, so.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I want to impress him.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I guess it's just the way the partnership goes, and
we get well, you know, we get a while off
the field and be able to relay on the field
in terms of the way we be at So yeah,
I guess we know each other's games reasily well and
able to help each other out.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Amazing strike rate. You played really really well. Shot making
was exquisite, especially the finding of the gaps. You must
be satisfied with that. It was it was pinpoint, of course,
it was so fast the outfield. All you had to
do was piers that in a ring. She's all over.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, I mean the beauty of playing in this part
of the world and these pictures and you know, you
don't really need to.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Try to force anything.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
You get into good positions, hit good cricket shots and
hopefully you can score quickly at.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
A good clip. And that's something I pride myself on.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
How I can continue doing as my career progresses, is
hitting good cricket shots and you know, backing my technique
and timing because like I'm not the biggest guy in
the worlds I can't necessarily muscle it all the time.
But you know, being able to trust that part of
my games been important.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You look filthy when you got out. Understandably, no one
likes to lose in there workout. But you must have thought, oh,
there's an opportunity slip there because I'm so I'm so
in rhythm right now.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, sure, I mean there's sort of been a thing
I'm wanting to do is take it a little bit deeper.
I mean, I wouldn't have chose a different shot to players.
See they've bounced a little bit more than I thought
in his orders. But I mean i'd love to you know,
you never satisfied as the bestment, So he'd love to
beat into the forty forty fifth over and see what
you can really do.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And but to be fair, I can't really complain.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
We've got three hundred and sixty GP and dar Center,
Caine senter, so I think it happens for a reason.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, I Kane really scraped around to start with, but
that's kind of came when him said he really finds
his place and then he goes for it. So when
you left is like, hold my beer watch this and
he went to town. But I'm glad you mentioned dazz
in what he did in GP toward Gen because he
was sure to trot was Mitchell, but he knew exactly
what he was doing. He fulfills a role particularly well
(05:14):
without too much fuss, right.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Rogen, Oh, definitely. I think Darryl is a mess for
our team. For word, his competitiveness and the way he's
able to.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Take the game on and you can just see it
in his eyes that it was pretty stitched on for
this one.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I mean, who wouldn't be, But it's just his intensity
and the way he gets up every game is amazing
and it just brings so much to our group. That
number four positions vitally. And I think he's almost everaging
fifty and one day cricket at strike out of.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Almost hundred, so he's doing his job brilliantly.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well do I hate to think, well, you're averaging when
it comes to ICC whiteball tournaments? What is the fifth ton?
What is it about the big dance that really pushes
you up and beyond? You love that focus or is
it just tournament cricket? What is it? Do you think? Rogen?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah? I know I have a enough question a few
times and.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Sorry to be original. Sorry mate, No.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
No, no, no, no, no, that did not mean that
in a bad way at all. I mean it's more
me trying to find an answer that I'm not sure
what it is. I mean, I'm happy it's happening, but
I guess it's just you play the aim in front
of you, and luckily enough, I'm able to do risonly
well on these stages.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
And look, I know I'm.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Very early in my career and there's a long way
to go, so hopefully long way it continue. But I
don't know. There's something I like playing in these games.
It's you know, you're playing for your teammates and you
know there's a common goal in these tournaments, and you
know each step you take takes you closer to that.
And also I think that's what excites me the most.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Word writing on the captaincy of Mitch Santner. He's a
wily bugger, isn't he. He appears to be able to
pivot very very quickly, understand what the pressures are, what
is needed, and apply that right on the spot, like
when he tucked you the ball, for example. He knows
what he's up to. Must be wonderful playing under a
guy like that.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I mean I love set not on the field, off
the field, he's such an amazing character, so calm, he's
so chill.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
He's a very funny guy.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Although he doesn't really see him on the field, but
he's got such a presence about him and the calmness
that you know, exemplifies our group, you know, and it's
it's perfect, and it's it's great for us, you know,
and something you know, whatever you bowl, something happens right.
Is just such a world class bowler, and it's kind
of reflective and its leadership and his captaincy and the
way he's able to make those changes like timely situations.
(07:22):
And it's worked out so well, you know, so.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Far, and hopefully one more game that can it can
keep going.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, that's it. And I've been saying this for a
few years. You're stepping up. You first to get to
Seemi finals. Don't win them. Quarter finals, don't win them.
See me.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
If you start one and.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Then you get to final, that's the next step. You've
got to start winning these things. But the momento behind
what this team has achieved over the last five years,
you must be quietly confident even though it's India. Although
India looking at you guys going not those bogey mean again,
they always blast away.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah, I mean it's it's incredible. I mean the way
we've been playing, and you know the whole thing about
New Zione.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Teams always gett into the knockouts and semis and stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
But yeah, I mean, every time you go and play TORM,
you want to win it, and I think that's always
going to be there.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
But I think if we.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Continue to do what we do, focus on what's important
to us, and hopefully play the credit that we've been playing,
I'm sure we'll be fine and understanding. Like, look, India
are a very good team on a on a big
stage and on the ground that you never quite know
what the pitch is going to do.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And you've got a bit of a rest now before
you take it on board. We've been a travel plenty
of that, but you would have dealt with that quite
easily by now. So what do you have to if
you can, what has to improve between now and the
big final against India. Personally and from the team point
of view.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I think a lot.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
A lot of it personally is getting horizontal and resting
our minds. To be honest, basic, there's it's, it's, it's.
It can not stressful, but it can be. It's exciting,
and there's a lot of things happening, I guess, so
for us it's important to have that downtime and then
come the day before we train what's important and we
know what that challenges facing India look like I said,
we don't know what the work it's going to be like.
(09:01):
It could be spin friendly like it was for our
group game, it could not be. So we'll cover all
basis and we've got you know, the Deffron, the squad
and the guys were playing know that we've got the
ability to at to what ever surface. So I think
the name of the game will be resting up and
then switching on when there's a day to go.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Is there anyone broken because I think that Kane took
a whack on the hand. I think there was a
bit of a rollover as well on the outfield from
Matt Henry.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Thin's okay, Yeah, Caine's fine, He's he's all good. And
I think they're just assessing Tisser at the moment mat
Henry and he came back in bold, which is positive signs.
So we'll see how it goes on the next couple
of days.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And finally, I've started calling you ravishing Rick Revendra, which
probably either confuses your drives you crazy. Do you know
who ravishing Rick Rude actually is?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
It was a lot before my time, but I heard
on the bus that it was a WWE dude.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
American professional wrestler from way back in the day. He's
got quite the rig on my about the tight pants though.
Check out reck Rude. And please don't be upset if
I start calling you like a few other people are
radishing Rick Revendra. Mate, you go well, go hard and
carry on playing the way you're playing. It's a thing
of beauty.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Cheers, Dusty, appreciate it, man. Thank you. Have a good one.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be let's get into a bit of cricket and
why would we not celebrate who will be celebrate? Worth well?
Quite frankly the star of the game, although there were
plenty of them. It was a genuine team effort last
night as the proteust just didn't have enough in the
barrel to deal with what the black Caps released. We
(00:32):
joined now by a man that scored has fifth ton
and white ball I see see tournaments managed to roll
his arm over to great effects as well. His name
is a Ruction Revenger. He joins us now, Good evening, Rutchian.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Hey, good morning, Darcy. How are you not?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
While I'm really quite happy, but not as happy as
you and the team first and foremost, because it is
a team game. The flight back and away down to Dubai,
it must have been very satisfying for you all.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I mean it's always a great feeling being able to
want to knock out a game of.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Cricket and books off the place in the final.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
But I think more was just the emphatic fashion that
we did it, and the complete team performance was extremely pleasing.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You say complete team performance. I don't think that is
an overstatement at all. Everybody's positions, everybody's roles, they all
applied and it all worked out. Could you even believe
what was happening out there? Like, you're not like scored
five hundred runs, but to a man, everybody performed.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
But I think that's been the theme of the BLACKFS
team throughout the Champions Trophy entry series. You know, the
roles are clear, anyone sort of executing the skills, well,
we know that sometimes happens, sometimes doesn't, but you know,
everyone's clear about what they're supposed to do and it's
worked out reasonly well, and that's when the cool part
and seeing it all come together.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Guys worked really well, worked quite hard during the start,
Will Young You know they put together a reasonable partnership
to start, but it probably wasn't as easy as it
looked insily. There was some mucky there wasn't there.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
To get through. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I think really well at the top and bother very straight,
didn't really give us much to score and then broke
the shackles.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
But it's actually Younger.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
You hit a couple of nice, nice shots to get
us going, and I followed soon and we're just able
to build a nice partnership going forward.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Your relationship and partnership with Caine Williamson, they talked about
the Master and the Apprentice. Was there a touch of
that about that.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Or about that?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
It's still a very, very very long way to be
even considering an apprentice that came with episodes.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
But he's unbelievable to bet with. I really enjoy.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I think we've shared some core partnerships over the last
year and a half, and you know, it's special to
be able to bet with one of my idols and
witness a truly world class player in full flight.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
At the other end, I was talking to former black
Caps coach John Bracewell today and John said, the difference
in the way you apply yourself when Caine's at the crease,
it's market It's almost like he brings a big calm
around what you're doing and you play beyond joy years.
Is that a fair enough statement? Russian?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Ah, I'm not sure. I haven't really thought too much
about it.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Maybe just because he's a coming presidence, he brings the
serenity to the crease, and maybe it helps me out
to him, and maybe it's a little bit of I
don't want to let him down because he's player of us, so.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I want to impress him.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I guess it's just the way the partnership goes, and
we get well, you know, we get a while off
the field and be able to relay on the field
in terms of the way we be at So yeah,
I guess we know each other's games reasily well and
able to help each other out.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Amazing strike rate. You played really really well. Shot making
was exquisite, especially the finding of the gaps. You must
be satisfied with that. It was it was pinpoint, of course,
it was so fast the outfield. All you had to
do was piers that in a ring. She's all over.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, I mean the beauty of playing in this part
of the world and these pictures and you know, you
don't really need to.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Try to force anything.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
You get into good positions, hit good cricket shots and
hopefully you can score quickly at.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
A good clip. And that's something I pride myself on.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
How I can continue doing as my career progresses, is
hitting good cricket shots and you know, backing my technique
and timing because like I'm not the biggest guy in
the worlds I can't necessarily muscle it all the time.
But you know, being able to trust that part of
my games been important.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You look filthy when you got out. Understandably, no one
likes to lose in there workout. But you must have thought, oh,
there's an opportunity slip there because I'm so I'm so
in rhythm right now.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, sure, I mean there's sort of been a thing
I'm wanting to do is take it a little bit deeper.
I mean, I wouldn't have chose a different shot to players.
See they've bounced a little bit more than I thought
in his orders. But I mean i'd love to you know,
you never satisfied as the bestment, So he'd love to
beat into the forty forty fifth over and see what
you can really do.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And but to be fair, I can't really complain.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
We've got three hundred and sixty GP and dar Center,
Caine senter, so I think it happens for a reason.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, I Kane really scraped around to start with, but
that's kind of came when him said he really finds
his place and then he goes for it. So when
you left is like, hold my beer watch this and
he went to town. But I'm glad you mentioned dazz
in what he did in GP toward Gen because he
was sure to trot was Mitchell, but he knew exactly
what he was doing. He fulfills a role particularly well
(05:14):
without too much fuss, right.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Rogen, Oh, definitely. I think Darryl is a mess for
our team. For word, his competitiveness and the way he's
able to.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Take the game on and you can just see it
in his eyes that it was pretty stitched on for
this one.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I mean, who wouldn't be, But it's just his intensity
and the way he gets up every game is amazing
and it just brings so much to our group. That
number four positions vitally. And I think he's almost everaging
fifty and one day cricket at strike out of.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Almost hundred, so he's doing his job brilliantly.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well do I hate to think, well, you're averaging when
it comes to ICC whiteball tournaments? What is the fifth ton?
What is it about the big dance that really pushes
you up and beyond? You love that focus or is
it just tournament cricket? What is it? Do you think? Rogen?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah? I know I have a enough question a few
times and.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Sorry to be original. Sorry mate, No.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
No, no, no, no, no, that did not mean that
in a bad way at all. I mean it's more
me trying to find an answer that I'm not sure
what it is. I mean, I'm happy it's happening, but
I guess it's just you play the aim in front
of you, and luckily enough, I'm able to do risonly
well on these stages.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
And look, I know I'm.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Very early in my career and there's a long way
to go, so hopefully long way it continue. But I
don't know. There's something I like playing in these games.
It's you know, you're playing for your teammates and you
know there's a common goal in these tournaments, and you
know each step you take takes you closer to that.
And also I think that's what excites me the most.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Word writing on the captaincy of Mitch Santner. He's a
wily bugger, isn't he. He appears to be able to
pivot very very quickly, understand what the pressures are, what
is needed, and apply that right on the spot, like
when he tucked you the ball, for example. He knows
what he's up to. Must be wonderful playing under a
guy like that.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I mean I love set not on the field, off
the field, he's such an amazing character, so calm, he's
so chill.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
He's a very funny guy.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Although he doesn't really see him on the field, but
he's got such a presence about him and the calmness
that you know, exemplifies our group, you know, and it's
it's perfect, and it's it's great for us, you know,
and something you know, whatever you bowl, something happens right.
Is just such a world class bowler, and it's kind
of reflective and its leadership and his captaincy and the
way he's able to make those changes like timely situations.
(07:22):
And it's worked out so well, you know, so.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Far, and hopefully one more game that can it can
keep going.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, that's it. And I've been saying this for a
few years. You're stepping up. You first to get to
Seemi finals. Don't win them. Quarter finals, don't win them.
See me.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
If you start one and.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Then you get to final, that's the next step. You've
got to start winning these things. But the momento behind
what this team has achieved over the last five years,
you must be quietly confident even though it's India. Although
India looking at you guys going not those bogey mean again,
they always blast away.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah, I mean it's it's incredible. I mean the way
we've been playing, and you know the whole thing about
New Zione.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Teams always gett into the knockouts and semis and stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
But yeah, I mean, every time you go and play TORM,
you want to win it, and I think that's always
going to be there.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
But I think if we.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Continue to do what we do, focus on what's important
to us, and hopefully play the credit that we've been playing,
I'm sure we'll be fine and understanding. Like, look, India
are a very good team on a on a big
stage and on the ground that you never quite know
what the pitch is going to do.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And you've got a bit of a rest now before
you take it on board. We've been a travel plenty
of that, but you would have dealt with that quite
easily by now. So what do you have to if
you can, what has to improve between now and the
big final against India. Personally and from the team point
of view.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I think a lot.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
A lot of it personally is getting horizontal and resting
our minds. To be honest, basic, there's it's, it's, it's.
It can not stressful, but it can be. It's exciting,
and there's a lot of things happening, I guess, so
for us it's important to have that downtime and then
come the day before we train what's important and we
know what that challenges facing India look like I said,
we don't know what the work it's going to be like.
(09:01):
It could be spin friendly like it was for our
group game, it could not be. So we'll cover all
basis and we've got you know, the Deffron, the squad
and the guys were playing know that we've got the
ability to at to what ever surface. So I think
the name of the game will be resting up and
then switching on when there's a day to go.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Is there anyone broken because I think that Kane took
a whack on the hand. I think there was a
bit of a rollover as well on the outfield from
Matt Henry.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Thin's okay, Yeah, Caine's fine, He's he's all good. And
I think they're just assessing Tisser at the moment mat
Henry and he came back in bold, which is positive signs.
So we'll see how it goes on the next couple
of days.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And finally, I've started calling you ravishing Rick Revendra, which
probably either confuses your drives you crazy. Do you know
who ravishing Rick Rude actually is?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
It was a lot before my time, but I heard
on the bus that it was a WWE dude.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
American professional wrestler from way back in the day. He's
got quite the rig on my about the tight pants though.
Check out reck Rude. And please don't be upset if
I start calling you like a few other people are
radishing Rick Revendra. Mate, you go well, go hard and
carry on playing the way you're playing. It's a thing
of beauty.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Cheers, Dusty, appreciate it, man. Thank you. Have a good one.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
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