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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Waldegrave
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
Greetings, Greetings, Welcome on into Sports Talk seven and it's
Thursday night, aprilteenth, twenty twenty five on Darcy Vauldegrave bumper
edition of Sports Talk Tonight Action A plenty. Towards the
end of the program, we'll talk supercars. Brody Kostecki joins
us from Dick Johnson. Ray Sing won the championship back
(00:57):
in twenty three. Talk to us about the two four
Super four forty This week in Graham A. Gars makes
an appearance on the program forty four forty four Masters
that he's covered forty four. He's been to forty two
of them. The twolines got wrecked by some global pandemic. Anyway,
we'll talk to him about Augusta and the Masters. Teeing off.
(01:22):
Is it overnight or at about eleven o'clock tonight Most
of us have been bid by then, anyway, any who.
Graham joins us later in the Piece's going to kick
things off with Andrew Hoare though Auckland Blues chief executive
looking at the timing of the Super Rugby Opicky Final.
Innocent prime time classes with a men's game down in
(01:46):
to even with the Highlanders. It's an interesting placement. Did
they do it, who did it? Why did they do it?
Is it going to actually work? We don't know. We'll
find out more than Andrew Whore shortly. Then we'll take
your calls. Should ends that I've actually given the Super
Rugby Final a clear prime time slot on a Saturday
(02:07):
night night. No, they're not muddy the waters with Super
Rugby blokes, but left it purely for O Picky. We'll
take your thoughts on that after Andrew Whare. But like
we normally do, it's kick things off with our bitterness
sort today and in Sport Today Blues O Picky Skipper
and Black Fern Maya Evan Colony. Russ has outlined the
(02:32):
strain on her fellow players. Changes need it. They're busy.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
We have girls coming on Thursday, We train on Thursday,
Captain John Friday play Saturday review Sunday, and then half
of our girls go back to their normal jobs. If
they're to do that for any more than ten weeks,
that would be really hard. Hopefully we get more resources
to expand the competition in a more ethical and sustainable.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Way supercar part of Andre him Gartner is all over
the possibility of Christcher's Hula Puna Motors Spark hosting the
other New Zealand round of supercars. He has a fine
history of monstering the tarmac bear For.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Me, that's a great track. It's where I've done the
most laps out of any track in the world. It's
where I cut my teeth and form of the forward
and I think no doubt the area is amazing for
it the great part of the country and the track
is suitable for supercars too.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Jordan Speith there hasn't worn the master's famed green jacket
for a decade three times and major winner is set
to repeat his Wire to Wire twenty fifteen heroics if
you can only extricate himself from the space time continuum
that he's trapped in.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
It was a different place in life for me than
I'm at now, But at the same time it's it
kind of all blends together here too, so it can
feel like it's yesterday at the same time. So good memories.
But you know, I feel like I've got another chance
this week.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
As you are and former no current, Oh, I don't know.
In Flux Silver fin Grass Wicker has slipped into a
role she was apprehensive over when she started Super Equal.
The two point long shot is now a focus for
the new South Wales. Swift's new girl on the block.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Initially in pre seas and I was like, I don't
like this and it's not my strength and its changes
the game.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
It brings teams through a.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Drop down back in.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
I think to give myself license to turn and shoot
both for the shots. I know I need to do
the work at training to put that volume up. And
that's sport today.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Eleven minutes after seven lads talk Final Live Super Rugby.
Oh Vicky's coming up five past seven on Saturday night
at Eden Park. For that the Blues Men take on
Mowana Pacifica. Talking now about that with the Chief Executive
of the Blues, Andrew Whore. Good evening, Andrew, and it's
all welcome to CEO of the Blues. His name is Andrew.
(04:52):
Hoare big weekend a head?
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Good day, Andrew, How are you You're right?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, very well, looking forward to the weekend's sport as
of course you are as well. Big weekend for the
Blues franchise, not only for the men, more so for
the women an o picky you get a final coming
up Andrew.
Speaker 8 (05:09):
Yeah, back to back, which has been an outstanding achievement.
And when I think about that first season where we
started from, I just take my hat off to Willie
and the management team on how they've built the culture
and the environment and they're thriving so close competitions.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
This whole season has been.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
I mean, we're just be able to put by the
Chiefs here at home and the team scored a fantastic
late try being tipped for tats.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
So it'll be another classic or picky game.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
And I think for those that have watched it, they
love the movement and the space on the field and
it's great rugby to watch.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's a very settled lineup that you've got up against
a Mutta two. It's a great traditional ivory blue white,
red blake and our roles, even the two is the
whole of Pinami. It's not carried away around that one.
The games set to go at five past seven on
a Saturday night. This is prime rugby viewing. Do you
(06:07):
think that in z Are? I don't know actually who
makes this decision? Yourself? Super Rugby in zet Are should
have given this final, this Opeki final a clear prime
time spot because there is rugby competition from the Super
rugby from Highlanders. Do you think it deserves to be
elevated above that and give its own space.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
I think there's an argument definitely for that moving forward.
I think in this instance it fell well for us.
I mean it could have very well not been here,
but we had a weird delighted that a men's team,
for example, we've got an afternoon fixture and that's great,
and that left a window open which now elevates this
(06:51):
final being a Saturday night.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
But I think you're right.
Speaker 8 (06:55):
I think having a clear window enables you to market
and fit it in where it best fits the market.
That said, I think Saturday night is befitting of a
final final tonight, and I think they'll get the broadcast
ratings for or Piggy has actually continued to climb even
this year beyond sort of fifteen percent growth, So I
(07:17):
think it's in a really good space. And I hope
people take the opportunity to, if they haven't watched it before,
dial in and get exposure to it, because I think
you'll find you're likely to follow it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I believe you because It is fantastic to watch, very different,
but still fantastic to watch. Who makes the final call
on that? Is that nst R Or is that Super Rugby?
Speaker 8 (07:41):
No, that's an ensido and or Picky comes under the
management of Super Rugby is the commission now in that respect,
but ultimately it's broadcaster and national body.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Sarah want do you think to maybe have a standalone
planner You can see the benefits of it and see
what would be a good idea, but community wise, rugby wise,
do you think it would actually float?
Speaker 8 (08:05):
After being working in Australia where they put a lot
of the female games after male games, we actually found
that work quite well because it does take a while
for people to appreciate both sexes in the game and things,
and so by making it convenient it can actually work
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in my experience from what I've seen. And the other
part about it is it actually ended up working really
really well because we have the Pacific A Festival, but
beforehand we then got what has now turned into, you know,
an intense fixture, and then off the back of that
we roll into the Orpiki Finals. So actually, from our perspective,
(08:47):
it's made a day of entertainment and added to what
was already existing.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Has it fallen in your lap though, Andrew I, it
was all settled to go anyway, and that's just how
it happened. You didn't have to adjust anything. This was
how it was presented and you just ran with it.
Speaker 9 (09:04):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
We had an afternoon fixed, we had the one, we
had the Pacifica festival coming off the Hall of Fame
which we're partners in, and on tonight it just flowed
and then.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Obviously this game came up.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
And if it wasn't going to be played here, it
would have been played probably seven o'clock at Martha two,
I think was the other options. So by having it here,
it's actually become part of a far broader festival and
something that I think is extremely positive.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Expectations around attendance. Now, you would hope that there'd be
some people who turn up to watch the men's fixture,
and that'd be a great game. Considering where the Blues
are coming from and what Mowana had been up to
a recent times, what kind of the word leak through
is probably not ideal, But how many are you expecting
to stick around for the final and conversely, how many
(09:59):
people are you expecting to turn up solely for that final.
Where are your numbers? Where does it sit?
Speaker 8 (10:05):
Yeah, that that's what can be challenge. What we do
know is looking at those numbers last year, we are
looking at the growth we've had in attendance in the
women's game. I think, you know, if you look at
Fong Ray, there's now on eighteen hundred people, which for
(10:28):
an all picky game is good.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
I think as a country, we've got to understand too
that the woman's.
Speaker 10 (10:35):
Professional game is starting at a different base to where
the men started. The men's had, you know, years of provincialism,
and nineteen ninety six they turned the dial, flicked it
to this thing, got an injection of you know, millions
of dollars of broadcast cash and it was and there
was very little other sports even competing in the men's
(10:56):
environment there in the professional game.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
Now we've got a competition that's turned the dial to professionalism.
Can't pull it, turn it fully because it hasn't had
the same level of investment as entering a sports market
which is so much more competitive for men and women.
So I think it has to be a touch of
realism and all of this, and that it is going
to be a billed as opposed of an overnight sort
(11:19):
of flicking of a switch.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I think everyone's well aware of that. The next question
would be from your point of view see the blues,
and again from instr super Rugby's point of view, how
much grace, how much rope is given to this competition,
around your expectations and how it grows. If you've got
a set amount of time running it year by year,
(11:43):
what metrics are you looking? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (11:45):
No, I think this is where being license holders to
a degree, there's there's got to be probably some consideration
to what we can and can't invest into what level
at the moment. I feel sometimes for the NSDU it's
like whack a mole, where you know where, where does
(12:05):
money go next?
Speaker 6 (12:06):
Who's barking the loudest, et cetera.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
I think from our.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Perspective, we would like to see a clear prioritization of
activity and then the level of investment befitting or to
raise the bar on these kind of things.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
We still have a lot of work to do and around.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
High performance facilities for athletes. I think if you talked
to League it will be the same argument. Although they
get a lot of state government support in Australia. But
what we can't do everything, so what actually is important?
And that's the question we need answer from our perspective.
(12:47):
And if it is important, then what creates the best
high performance environment the black Ferns off that's a priority
to you. So those are key questions that need to
be asked and answered, and I think over the next
few months as a view that we've got to get
that sorted and find out because at the moment we
(13:09):
slightly there's a lot of passion around it and a
lot of people want to see it be successful.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
It's actually just that little bit of how that we
need to that we need to resolve.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
What's happening in a couple of months.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Well, I think there's a lot of discussions to be had.
Speaker 8 (13:24):
You've got a new collective bargaining agreement to be agreed,
You've got pathways to be agreed and proposals that have
been put forward, and I think it will be an
interesting time for everyone to sit down and talk throw
those from all the different stakeholders.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
But I think we're at a point where we.
Speaker 8 (13:46):
Feel we feel there needs to be some stakes in
the ground about what programs are actually important and what aren't.
I mean, they've all got some level of importance, but
it's we just can't just can't do everything.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
And Andrew Haw, what I've got you here? You haven't
had a call from Joey Manu, have you?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
No?
Speaker 8 (14:07):
No, it would be quite fitting, wouldn't it on a
Pacific a week for the Blues to you know, take
on and bring through.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Another player of his quality.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
But not as yet.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
No.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
I'm sure he's looking for a number.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So he's born in talking, I think so that's probably
more likelyhood knock on the door of the Chiefs. But
I mean, I don't know. You don't know anything he's
got out of the plate. It's quite fascinating because I
expect that he's decided he's quite good at rugby. He
probably doesn't need to go and play over France. He
(14:42):
can go back here, play a bit of NPC and
then maybe work his way towards super rugby. That's that's
a that's an understandable route, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Yeah, welcome with open arms arms. He would enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
He will love the right call is your call on
eight eight Sports Talk, Call on your home of Sports
News Talk.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
A big fan of the show is Joey Maner, he'll
be listening. Yeah, you know what I'm going to give
Andrew Orring. I'll give you my number, Joey.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Just call me up.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
It's oh no, it's not anything to do with that
at all. That's Andrew Whore, the Blues chief executive, talking
about the timing of a Super Rugby Opike finals at
five past seven. It is on Saturday night. The question
for you out there is should ends I've given the
final a clear prime time slot on a Saturday night.
(15:34):
When I say, yeah, no opposition if there be other sports, granted,
but there is a Super Rugby men's game going on
at the same time nights, they've got a weedge to
get there and said, look, this is important to us,
this is important for the continued development of women's rugby.
(15:56):
We would like it to stand alone. Would suggests that's
impossible because the broadcasters have water tight contracts, not the
contracts anything joy money, water tight contracts around what they're
expecting with the money they pay, and that would be
at five past seven on a Saturday night, a man's
(16:18):
game of Super rugby. That's what they want. I doubt
you a better clear that out. Even with whatever intention
they have, but they got there. And I say that
this situation, this is an an interesting litmus test for
not only the Blues, for New Zealand rugby. And it's serendipitous,
(16:39):
that's what it is. For chillitis. Even this wasn't by design.
The Blues just happened to get into the final and
they've done very well. I'm going to defend their title
up against Matatu and they just happened to have a
big Pacific event going on at Eden Park, which means
(17:02):
while they could stick it in there at that primetime slot,
men were playing in the afternoon, so why not throw
them in at night? Works well, so they'll find out
a lot about leakage, if you can call it that,
from the men's game, whether people stick around and want
to watch it afterwards, whether it will stand up on
its own ie people will turn up Sex thirty seven
(17:24):
to watch the game there where it works as a
combo effort. And on TV, I think people who sit
down to want to watch a bit of rugby, I
would encourage them to maybe not watch the Heartlanders, maybe
take a look at Opicky, just to have a look
cc about what women's rugby is and it might work
(17:48):
really well, it might not. Should they have cleared the
decks though? Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty it was
a nice in a dream world. It never happened because
the other sponsorship. I just yeah, it's searingtibitous occasion, that's
what this is. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Lines
are are open. I would like to think they should
(18:11):
have done, but I appreciate they never will be able
to because the money's simply not there. This is News
Talks c B twenty five past seven.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Still start singing, you don't need to be TMO. We've
got the breakdown on sports talk call Oh eight hundred
eighty News Talks bod B.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Seven twenty eight Sports talk on News Talks EB on
a Thursday and night, im Darcy water Grave lines are open,
oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It can text the
thoughts nineteen ninety two. That's said BZB that want to
track a standard text charge. Good evening, Ben, Oh.
Speaker 11 (18:57):
Good evenings, thank you. So yeah.
Speaker 12 (19:00):
I was lucky enough in Auckland to make all the
games for their home games, you know, going up to
Fung Gray and being at Eton Park and all that.
But I really had to like look up and find
where are these teams going and all that it wasn't promoted,
like I had to really try and find out what's
(19:20):
happening with.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Well, no, no readily available schedule. There wasn't something released
by opicking to tell you where they were.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
You know.
Speaker 12 (19:29):
My wife was like, oh my god, your team is
going up there because I love Rugby. You know, my
wife is like blues all the way, like for the boys,
you know, and then you know, I'm with the girls
and she was like, oh, the girls are playing on program.
I'm like, we need to put some picture on a
car and go up there.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
And that's that's bizarre. I think it's great that you're
following around, but I find that weird that there was
no schedule.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I do.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
It doesn't sound right medicorning a liar bean, but it
does seem strange. I think maybe bigger picture rather being
promoted correctly.
Speaker 12 (19:59):
They're not being promoted correctly because I had to like
look it up on you know, get it on the
website and like, all right, that's where the girls are
going here and there and there, And I'm like, all right,
so we need to follow them. You know where we can.
So it's like it's not promoted right, Like that needs
to come out of it, Like here's the competition.
Speaker 11 (20:18):
That's what the girls are doing, and.
Speaker 12 (20:21):
That's the places that they're playing, and so people can
turn up. You know, it was such a great atmosphere
to just go up there and follow these girls in
this team around Auckland. It was such a great, great time.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
So to tell me Ben about a final and this
is a stroke of luck and I'm sure they'll learn
a lot out of this. The fact that the Blues
playing in the afternoon, the Blokes against Majana and then
as a final ad Eden Park under the lights. This
is a big deal and it just happens to find
itself in this prime time slot should have been cleared
(20:55):
out completely. Is this going to work? Are you expecting
people to walk up for that game or leak over
from the Majana game or you've been to these games,
how do you think it's going to operate?
Speaker 12 (21:07):
Or what what we decided was like when we're not
going to turn up to about an hour before the
girls final because the boys are playing earlier. So we
decided like, oh we'll just wait and wait and get
our tickets. We've already got tickets, so then we'll go
to the girls final because we don't actually care about
(21:28):
the Blues Warner PACIFICA. I mean that's no, I mean
that's it's.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Not a final. It's not a final. You've been following
the girls the whole way, so you want to see
how they fall up against mad That's.
Speaker 12 (21:41):
Right, that's right. So you know, and I've met the
march or two girls when we went to Fungrari.
Speaker 9 (21:46):
I went out.
Speaker 12 (21:46):
I was like, it was a great experience. And we
went out there and we met the girls and with
my blues jersey on and all that. And then one
of the girls from Manchester was like, you better turn
up on the final wearing a different color. I'm not
going to give you a signature and unless you were
a different color. And I told my wife, I'm like,
I'm going to have to go around came out around
Auckland and find a kill jersey so I can. I
(22:09):
won't say who the player is.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
But I was like, oh my god, I don't don't
be don't bean to that pressure from athletes. Don't do
it to yourself. Thanks very much for your call, though,
I'll give you the tip you need a new phone.
Your your microphone's terrible. But I like the content, so
we ram with it.
Speaker 11 (22:29):
I Trevor Darcy, how are you?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I'm very well. How about yourself today? I'm John Wick.
Speaker 11 (22:36):
John Wick.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
No, I've never seen the movie either. It's just a
good response.
Speaker 9 (22:43):
Either.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Oh.
Speaker 11 (22:46):
I find it very interesting when you talk about sports
and you mentioned male, male and female and at least now,
I mean it used to if you sort of diaid
something about female sport. Yeah, sexus your sexist. But I'll
give you a couple of points about it. Darty the
Australian Open, which was a very good test of that.
One year they try playing the men first and the
(23:08):
ladies of the late game, and it was just a
total embarrassment for people that wanted to support the woman's game,
because you get the crowd actually left after the men
played and didn't stay for the late game. So you know,
I'm sure all those people that chose not to do
it weren't all male. Chauvin has packs, you know what
(23:29):
people say and that, and I just think it's a product.
I mean, I just think it's the product.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
That you get.
Speaker 11 (23:35):
I mean, look, you think back to the Ladies Rugby
World Cup. I mean, talk back a fantastic rugby. It's
the best rugby. It's better than men's rugby. You remember that,
didn't you ask you for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It's different than men's rugby, but it's still it was.
Speaker 11 (23:50):
More enjoyable, it was more So what's happened since then?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Well, I think that New Zealanders do have this habit
of turning up to events as opposed to long term series,
and we've seen that with Super Rugby. You're seeing the
quarters in the semis or sorry the semis in the finals,
a lot more people will turn up. So in the
finals when there was knockout and accounted, a lot more
(24:15):
people climb because they wanted to be part of that experience.
Speaker 11 (24:18):
Yeah no, you did right. So what you're saying is
people will get it. Just getting a little bit excited
about what the World Cup was going to do for
women's rugby.
Speaker 9 (24:28):
I mean I.
Speaker 11 (24:29):
Always thought, no, no, just wait and see this as
the World Cup, big event, good old ky with sports
people out there supporting it, showing the world we love
out sport. But you wait till next year. There won't
be crowds at the women's games. And you know, I
just hope people don't think because I'm going to the
men game, not the ladies game. Ah, text your pigs,
(24:49):
you know, shaping us men. No, No, it's not like that.
Say it's what you get and what you want to
put your time to. And as I say to Kennis,
what was it?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (24:59):
I know, but the real reason is but probably the
real reason is they don't support it. It's because they
don't enjoy watching it. And it's okay to say that
it's not as dynamic. You know, it's not as dynamic,
it's not as agile, whether you like it or not.
It's just the people. I think it is dynamic going
it is edging there.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Trevor, Trevor, I'm not the public. Okay, I'm not the public.
I can't speak for them, and I won't. What I
think you'll find a woman's rugby is it's going to
take quite a while to get the tracks in the
building till it brings out, which is what happened with
men's rugby, which has been going for over one hundred years.
It's new and they need a length of time. How
(25:41):
can we bid this sin? What works, what doesn't work
and maybe after five or ten years time they say
this is not working, this is not good for us.
We've got to stop. But if you give it a
half fast attempt and drop it after a couple of years,
I think that's a real shame.
Speaker 11 (25:59):
Because no, you don't, you don't, And I agree with you, Darcy.
Look I look at the woman's rugby league competition in
Australia and the growth and the quality of those ladies
playing rugby league in Australia still wise and that is
it's just been unbelievable in five years that they've done it.
And I'll sit down on what.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Five years we've had opiki going for a couple of
years and I think that'll lift and we've got to
give these things time to breathe. Rugby is not just
about the All Blacks and the Super Rugby champion County.
Speaker 11 (26:34):
Well, I just want to know all the people to
ask you that were magnificently enthusion for women's rugby. They
never thought it was that good. As exciting watching the
Rugby World Cup. I'd like some of them to ring
up and say, well, what's happened?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Well, no, said true that we're very much focused on
pinnacle events and big events, and people go to them.
It's a novelty and they want to be there. I
was at the Rugby World Cup final when at the
last minute a line out occurred right in front of
your ed and the Blackman's won. Of course we want
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to be around that. I think that the day to
day competition, it's going to take a long time to
bed in. Patience, grasshopper, patience. Let's run through a couple
of texts nine two ninety two. That's a z B
z B. Graham Agars is just around the corner talking masters. Oh,
a guy Texan said, who won the past three contest?
(27:34):
It was a bloke called Nico E. Cavaria. It might
be Ichavaria, but it's Ovaria, so they won't be winning
the green jagget will he kiss of death doing that?
No one's ever picked up the part three comp and
gone on to win the whole shooting match. But Nico won.
JJ Spawn is actually in a playoff with JJ Sporn.
I don't know if that curses JJ as well or not.
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Darcy siber Roby Opicky is a nice idea, but it's
not commercially viable. Nobody's watching it. And the players want
to be paid more. That's just commercially stupid by the
njed R from Steve. Steve, I get that it's not
probably commercially viable right now. Doesn't mean to say it
can't be for me to say you don't invest resources
(28:21):
into the game, because you've got to think about what
women's rugby is and the growth of women's rugby at
a younger level, about getting people out there playing, staying fit,
enjoying the camaraderie and being engaged in a big, local
community family pursuit. It's not just about the top class
and how much money you can make. The money that
the ends are makes is for all of rugby, all
(28:44):
of rugby, whether you like it or not. It's not
just for the all blacks, all of rugby. And they
have to promote the game amongst waking They they have to.
That's their job otherwise they're going back into the fifties.
I mean, who wants that hold on a lot of
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the pus do, don't they? Whoops that just popped out.
It's twenty one away from eight eighteen minutes to eight.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
It is.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Break sticky around the corner. Graham Haygars joins us now
though Masters golf, corresponding to forty four now, what a
mad career. He joins us to talk Masters.
Speaker 9 (29:34):
Even Graham Darthy, good to speak with it.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Great to have you on what is it forty four
years now covering the Masters? I'm amazed you can remember.
Does it still give you a spark when you wander
in there at Augusta?
Speaker 9 (29:49):
It sure does, you know. My two favorite golf tournaments
are the Masters, and it's a fantastic way to start
the year of Majors. And the other one is the
British Open, which is still the most raw event in golf,
particularly if he gets some really nasty weathers. So this,
as I said, is just the most beautiful start of
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the year. We go back to a course that everybody
knows all about because they play here every year. There's
a huge number of advantages for that, and the place,
despite a hurricane that went through here last year, looks
absolutely pristine, even if there are a few less trees
than they normally are, So you know, we're heading for
another great championship. In the weather I think going to cooperate.
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It's a little bit up and down with a chance
of some showers. Around early on, but mostly it looks
like being a beautiful spring week in AUGUSTA.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
What so no roaming storm clouds to wreck it all
and try and za people waving their five lines in
the air.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
Well, you don't want to say that in springtime in
this part of the world, because anything can happen. The
forecast generally is mild temperatures and a chance of some rain,
cloudy conditions and maybe the odd thunderstorm much sneak in,
But we're not talking about that. We're going to be
positive and think that it's going to be one of
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those beautiful springtime masters without any nasty weather upsetting it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yes, let's go along that direction. So who's in? Who
are the favorites? Who's looking like they're going to give it?
Speaker 7 (31:21):
What for?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
After a couple of days hanging around practicing, you got
an inside word for us, Graham.
Speaker 9 (31:28):
Well, we've all been looking for storylines, and after two
days of being here and listening to a whole bunch
of players who've come down to this, it could be
between the world number one and defending champions Scottish Scheffler
and Rory McElroy, who needs just this tournament to complete
his collection. Of all four Grand Slam tables, Rory has
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won twice already, including the Players Championship three weeks ago.
Coming into this tournament, Scottish Scheffler is trying to win
his third Green jacket in four years, if you can
believe that. He of course got away to a bad
start early in the year when he injured his hand
trying to help out in the kitchen, broke a glass
and it damaged the tendons in one of his hands.
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That's all recovered. He's a little short of match play,
so coming in there are a few questions about him.
But if you take those two guys out of the equation,
it's wide open. You could pick any one of six,
eight ten players at all, all got a chance of winning,
and it could be a surprising Masters if the two
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big stars fail to fire new players.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
You said, experience there is everything, so you would doubt.
I know, you'd probably know the gray A guys as
anyone turned up on their first a tint at the
Masters and walked off with the jacket. And is there
anyone around at the moment that might better fill that spot?
Speaker 9 (32:53):
One player Fady Zella in nineteen seventy nine. So the
odds darsy are pretty slim. I don't see a first
time winner this time round. You do need experience to
play the course, and we've only had one exception in
eighty eight previous playings of the Masters, So we'll stick
with that and say that it's going to be somebody
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who knows their way round. We could get a surprise
when let's say a guy like Memory Lee, the young
Australian who won for the first time on the PGA
two weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
How good was that watch? That was stunning? I did
last eighteen was quite something else. Herman is a caddy
and working under the tree. But the way he went through, man,
that is some nerve. That guy's got nerves of steel.
Speaker 9 (33:40):
Yeah, And here's the thing about him. He loves the attention.
Some guys get nervous and you know, sort of don't
want to really be in the spot like this guy
lives in the spotlight. So that's why I'm thinking he
could have a you know, a breakout championship here. He
played here last year, so we can't put him down
as a fuzzy zella rookie, but he's pretty close to it.
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And that went on the piece tour has given him
enormous confidence going into this tournament. So you know, if
you're looking for somebody a little bit off the beaten track,
he could be good. So good Tommy Fleetwood. They're incredibly
talented Englishman who just cannot get it across the line
in a major. This may be the one that he
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does it. He's ideally suited that this game. He's good
around the greens, he's accurate off the tee, and he's
got this sort of game that could win the championship.
And then you've got a couple of high profile live
players that are here at the championship. US Open champion
Bryce and Deshamba Brooks Kopka and John Rahm, who is
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a former Masters champion. We don't know how those guys
are actually playing because we don't see them that often.
You can't really take the results on the live too
seriously because it's just the same fifty guys playing each
other fourteen times a year. So that's sort of the
wild cards in the mix of the Championship this year.
They're all good enough when we know they were won majors,
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but whether they'll pull it off this week will be
an interesting test.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Forget the riffs call.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
You make the call on.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Sports Talk on your home of Sports News Talk hib Talk.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, it was great. Ay Gas, long time golf corresponding
tennis as well. Loves both sports. Of course he knew
about Fuzzy Zella. Silly question to ask twelve and it's
away from eight. Coming up next, Brady Kosticky. Let's talk
supercars here on news Talks hereb.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Is that so well?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
It's nine minutes to eight. Let's talk race cars and
Brody Kosticky twenty twenty three champion of the supercars that
joins us now, welcome to the show. Good evening, Brody,
thanks for having me on the show.
Speaker 7 (35:54):
Much appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, looking, thanks for joining us, and welcome back to
New Zealand. Good to see you here again. You're probably
looking for slightly better results this time around, but you're
still on the up and up with DJR. It's only
been what a couple of months now with the new team.
Speaker 13 (36:10):
Yeah, it has been so Yeah, we've had two rounds
together and slowly been building.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
Obviously going to Sydney. You know, we ended the Sunday,
you know, not too bad.
Speaker 13 (36:20):
Just knocking on the door of the podium and you know,
going to the Grand Prix obviously didn't didn't start off
you know that great, but we got there in the
end and the car was pretty speedy towards the end
of the weekend and obviously just missing that last race
in the rain there, which would have been interesting.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
What's like running second fiddle to Formula One? This is
an odd time of year. I know that it's been
put up there being myself during that weekend because the
Aussie fans love their supercars and it's a way of
dragging the crowds along. But playing second fiddle. How's that
for you, Brody?
Speaker 7 (36:52):
I didn't know we actually were playing second fiddle.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
It's the correct hunter the short shart racing. Is that
comfortably with you?
Speaker 8 (37:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (37:02):
The Grand Prix always puts on, you know, a great
spectacle there and you know, probably a little bit hard
for you know, I guess the broadcast we're pretty restricted
by f one of what they can and can't show.
But yeah, it's obviously always a great race there, and yeah,
the short sharp races always produced some great racing.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah, and puts an emphasis on pole as well. You
get up the top there and hard to pass, right.
Speaker 7 (37:26):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
What about Topal what does that bring you were there
last year didn't have the best results mid teen somewhere
I think it was. But you've got three consecutive races
coming up in the super forty. Tell us about top
all your experiences there and how you hope to improve
from last year.
Speaker 13 (37:44):
I think, first of all, it's great to be back
in New Zealand last year and to be racing at Topaul.
The Army on the whole of amasas absolutely fantastic. It
was such a great spectacle and so passionate as well,
you know, all the New Zealanders and you could really
hear them cheering for their you know, there are home
boys as well. So yeah, it's always a great round
(38:05):
and looking forward to guning to enter this weekend.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
We'll see if the weather can hold off.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I always talk about the pummus dust because that is
an odd one, especially for foreign visitors who don't know
tope Will particularly. Well, what does that bring to you
guys and the car? Do you pay much attention to
that when the wind gets up?
Speaker 7 (38:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (38:23):
I think you know, we obviously stayed in the lake there,
which is absolutely fantastic. But yeah, it's pretty cold there
around this time that you will we go, so the
wind is always quite cold. And obviously being being an
Aussie living in Queensland, you know where the weather's quite
nice generally, probably not so much this year of the rain.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Yeah, it's like it's like going to the snow, almost
without the snow.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
What kind of building you've been doing with the with
the new team in the car, what's your primary focus?
They're not yours, but but the engineers and the spanner blokes.
What are they looking to try and improve on in
this Mustang?
Speaker 7 (38:58):
You know, getting a custom to it.
Speaker 13 (38:59):
It's a little bit different than you know, the old
manufacturer that I was driving last year, and I guess
just you know, trying to get on top of that
as quick as we can, and you know, we're learning
every race that the car likes something a little bit different.
So I'm very fortunate to have some great people around me,
you know, within the Shelvy Racing team and you know,
some people that I worked with last year as well,
which does really spin up that process. But yeah, we're
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still battling a few other issues as well as many
other four teams with a bit of straight line handling.
So until the category gets on top of that and
does that job properly, yeah, will probably be hands tided
for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
When you come to racing time, how much does the
weight of success push you down or not? Because of
course you're a Barethirst winner. You picked up Gold Coast
last year as well, and look you won the championship
a couple of years back. Is that a hindrance or
help something you ignore?
Speaker 7 (39:53):
It's all fantastic.
Speaker 13 (39:54):
I've been very fortunate to be able to win a
lot of racers now, a lot of pole positions, you know,
win you know, one of the world's biggest motor racers
and you know, win a championship here in Australia and
so it's it's all fantastic. And I guess I've you know,
got that taste for you know success back in twenty
twenty three when I won my first race and and
sort of you know, know the job that needs to
(40:16):
be done, and you know, I know that I'm capable
of doing it.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
You know, I've got a fantastic team around me.
Speaker 13 (40:20):
So it's just putting all these ingredients together and you know,
mixing them all together and you know, just gone by
the recipe.
Speaker 7 (40:27):
So yeah, we're getting there slowly.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
It must be a comfort knowing that you do belong
and you can actually compete, even though the results haven't
been forthcoming this year. I think it's sitting in fifth,
but you do know, even as a younger pedler, this
is we belong.
Speaker 13 (40:42):
It's got to give you strength, definitely, And yeah, I'm
just so fortunate to have a team that really believes
in me, which is you know, fantastic. So yeah, we'll
you know, we'll get the Shelvy power Mustangs back up
the front where they belong. And it was great the
last racing in Melbourne Grand Prix was it was great
to be you know, alongside Will Davis and my teammate
and we're you know, fourth and fifth at one point
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trying to drive up to the podium. So it was
you know, just you know, little baby steps here and
there and hopefully after a few more rounds will be
containing for race wins.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
You hear it from the biggest names and sports and men.
Have your sale Wait eighty eighty Sports Talk or more
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Speaker 2 (41:21):
Z it be yes, it's three minutes away from eight.
That was Brady Gastecki joining us ahead of the two
full forty three races, two on twenties on Saturday and
a longer two hundred k race on the Sunday. I
like this text old mate saying Opik isn't commercially viable.
Neither are sevens or rugby in the Pacific. They don't
(41:41):
do these things to make money. We do it because
it's the right thing to do. Does the MPC make
any money? No? Ask Hurricanes if Super Rugby makes any money.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
No.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Stop getting hit up about how much money you're making
in Arci Watergrave and you do. Thank you very much
for producing the program. Mark Slice up next, tom out
of here, cat you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
Greetings, Greetings, Welcome on into Sports Talk seven and it's
Thursday night, aprilteenth, twenty twenty five on Darcy Vauldegrave bumper
edition of Sports Talk Tonight Action A plenty. Towards the
end of the program, we'll talk supercars. Brody Kostecki joins
us from Dick Johnson. Ray Sing won the championship back
(00:57):
in twenty three. Talk to us about the two four
Super four forty This week in Graham A. Gars makes
an appearance on the program forty four forty four Masters
that he's covered forty four. He's been to forty two
of them. The twolines got wrecked by some global pandemic. Anyway,
we'll talk to him about Augusta and the Masters. Teeing off.
(01:22):
Is it overnight or at about eleven o'clock tonight Most
of us have been bid by then, anyway, any who.
Graham joins us later in the Piece's going to kick
things off with Andrew Hoare though Auckland Blues chief executive
looking at the timing of the Super Rugby Opicky Final.
Innocent prime time classes with a men's game down in
(01:46):
to even with the Highlanders. It's an interesting placement. Did
they do it, who did it? Why did they do it?
Is it going to actually work? We don't know. We'll
find out more than Andrew Whore shortly. Then we'll take
your calls. Should ends that I've actually given the Super
Rugby Final a clear prime time slot on a Saturday
(02:07):
night night. No, they're not muddy the waters with Super
Rugby blokes, but left it purely for O Picky. We'll
take your thoughts on that after Andrew Whare. But like
we normally do, it's kick things off with our bitterness
sort today and in Sport Today Blues O Picky Skipper
and Black Fern Maya Evan Colony. Russ has outlined the
(02:32):
strain on her fellow players. Changes need it. They're busy.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
We have girls coming on Thursday, We train on Thursday,
Captain John Friday play Saturday review Sunday, and then half
of our girls go back to their normal jobs. If
they're to do that for any more than ten weeks,
that would be really hard. Hopefully we get more resources
to expand the competition in a more ethical and sustainable.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Way supercar part of Andre him Gartner is all over
the possibility of Christcher's Hula Puna Motors Spark hosting the
other New Zealand round of supercars. He has a fine
history of monstering the tarmac bear For.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Me, that's a great track. It's where I've done the
most laps out of any track in the world. It's
where I cut my teeth and form of the forward
and I think no doubt the area is amazing for
it the great part of the country and the track
is suitable for supercars too.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Jordan Speith there hasn't worn the master's famed green jacket
for a decade three times and major winner is set
to repeat his Wire to Wire twenty fifteen heroics if
you can only extricate himself from the space time continuum
that he's trapped in.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
It was a different place in life for me than
I'm at now, But at the same time it's it
kind of all blends together here too, so it can
feel like it's yesterday at the same time. So good memories.
But you know, I feel like I've got another chance
this week.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
As you are and former no current, Oh, I don't know.
In Flux Silver fin Grass Wicker has slipped into a
role she was apprehensive over when she started Super Equal.
The two point long shot is now a focus for
the new South Wales. Swift's new girl on the block.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Initially in pre seas and I was like, I don't
like this and it's not my strength and its changes
the game.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
It brings teams through a.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Drop down back in.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
I think to give myself license to turn and shoot
both for the shots. I know I need to do
the work at training to put that volume up. And
that's sport today.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Eleven minutes after seven lads talk Final Live Super Rugby.
Oh Vicky's coming up five past seven on Saturday night
at Eden Park. For that the Blues Men take on
Mowana Pacifica. Talking now about that with the Chief Executive
of the Blues, Andrew Whore. Good evening, Andrew, and it's
all welcome to CEO of the Blues. His name is Andrew.
(04:52):
Hoare big weekend a head?
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Good day, Andrew, How are you You're right?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, very well, looking forward to the weekend's sport as
of course you are as well. Big weekend for the
Blues franchise, not only for the men, more so for
the women an o picky you get a final coming
up Andrew.
Speaker 8 (05:09):
Yeah, back to back, which has been an outstanding achievement.
And when I think about that first season where we
started from, I just take my hat off to Willie
and the management team on how they've built the culture
and the environment and they're thriving so close competitions.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
This whole season has been.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
I mean, we're just be able to put by the
Chiefs here at home and the team scored a fantastic
late try being tipped for tats.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
So it'll be another classic or picky game.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
And I think for those that have watched it, they
love the movement and the space on the field and
it's great rugby to watch.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's a very settled lineup that you've got up against
a Mutta two. It's a great traditional ivory blue white,
red blake and our roles, even the two is the
whole of Pinami. It's not carried away around that one.
The games set to go at five past seven on
a Saturday night. This is prime rugby viewing. Do you
(06:07):
think that in z Are? I don't know actually who
makes this decision? Yourself? Super Rugby in zet Are should
have given this final, this Opeki final a clear prime
time spot because there is rugby competition from the Super
rugby from Highlanders. Do you think it deserves to be
elevated above that and give its own space.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
I think there's an argument definitely for that moving forward.
I think in this instance it fell well for us.
I mean it could have very well not been here,
but we had a weird delighted that a men's team,
for example, we've got an afternoon fixture and that's great,
and that left a window open which now elevates this
(06:51):
final being a Saturday night.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
But I think you're right.
Speaker 8 (06:55):
I think having a clear window enables you to market
and fit it in where it best fits the market.
That said, I think Saturday night is befitting of a
final final tonight, and I think they'll get the broadcast
ratings for or Piggy has actually continued to climb even
this year beyond sort of fifteen percent growth, So I
(07:17):
think it's in a really good space. And I hope
people take the opportunity to, if they haven't watched it before,
dial in and get exposure to it, because I think
you'll find you're likely to follow it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I believe you because It is fantastic to watch, very different,
but still fantastic to watch. Who makes the final call
on that? Is that nst R Or is that Super Rugby?
Speaker 8 (07:41):
No, that's an ensido and or Picky comes under the
management of Super Rugby is the commission now in that respect,
but ultimately it's broadcaster and national body.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Sarah want do you think to maybe have a standalone
planner You can see the benefits of it and see
what would be a good idea, but community wise, rugby wise,
do you think it would actually float?
Speaker 8 (08:05):
After being working in Australia where they put a lot
of the female games after male games, we actually found
that work quite well because it does take a while
for people to appreciate both sexes in the game and things,
and so by making it convenient it can actually work
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in my experience from what I've seen. And the other
part about it is it actually ended up working really
really well because we have the Pacific A Festival, but
beforehand we then got what has now turned into, you know,
an intense fixture, and then off the back of that
we roll into the Orpiki Finals. So actually, from our perspective,
(08:47):
it's made a day of entertainment and added to what
was already existing.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Has it fallen in your lap though, Andrew I, it
was all settled to go anyway, and that's just how
it happened. You didn't have to adjust anything. This was
how it was presented and you just ran with it.
Speaker 9 (09:04):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
We had an afternoon fixed, we had the one, we
had the Pacifica festival coming off the Hall of Fame
which we're partners in, and on tonight it just flowed
and then.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Obviously this game came up.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
And if it wasn't going to be played here, it
would have been played probably seven o'clock at Martha two,
I think was the other options. So by having it here,
it's actually become part of a far broader festival and
something that I think is extremely positive.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Expectations around attendance. Now, you would hope that there'd be
some people who turn up to watch the men's fixture,
and that'd be a great game. Considering where the Blues
are coming from and what Mowana had been up to
a recent times, what kind of the word leak through
is probably not ideal, But how many are you expecting
to stick around for the final and conversely, how many
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people are you expecting to turn up solely for that final.
Where are your numbers? Where does it sit?
Speaker 8 (10:05):
Yeah, that that's what can be challenge. What we do
know is looking at those numbers last year, we are
looking at the growth we've had in attendance in the
women's game. I think, you know, if you look at
Fong Ray, there's now on eighteen hundred people, which for
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an all picky game is good.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
I think as a country, we've got to understand too
that the woman's.
Speaker 10 (10:35):
Professional game is starting at a different base to where
the men started. The men's had, you know, years of provincialism,
and nineteen ninety six they turned the dial, flicked it
to this thing, got an injection of you know, millions
of dollars of broadcast cash and it was and there
was very little other sports even competing in the men's
(10:56):
environment there in the professional game.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
Now we've got a competition that's turned the dial to professionalism.
Can't pull it, turn it fully because it hasn't had
the same level of investment as entering a sports market
which is so much more competitive for men and women.
So I think it has to be a touch of
realism and all of this, and that it is going
to be a billed as opposed of an overnight sort
(11:19):
of flicking of a switch.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I think everyone's well aware of that. The next question
would be from your point of view see the blues,
and again from instr super Rugby's point of view, how
much grace, how much rope is given to this competition,
around your expectations and how it grows. If you've got
a set amount of time running it year by year,
(11:43):
what metrics are you looking? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (11:45):
No, I think this is where being license holders to
a degree, there's there's got to be probably some consideration
to what we can and can't invest into what level
at the moment. I feel sometimes for the NSDU it's
like whack a mole, where you know where, where does
(12:05):
money go next?
Speaker 6 (12:06):
Who's barking the loudest, et cetera.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
I think from our.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Perspective, we would like to see a clear prioritization of
activity and then the level of investment befitting or to
raise the bar on these kind of things.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
We still have a lot of work to do and around.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
High performance facilities for athletes. I think if you talked
to League it will be the same argument. Although they
get a lot of state government support in Australia. But
what we can't do everything, so what actually is important?
And that's the question we need answer from our perspective.
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And if it is important, then what creates the best
high performance environment the black Ferns off that's a priority
to you. So those are key questions that need to
be asked and answered, and I think over the next
few months as a view that we've got to get
that sorted and find out because at the moment we
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slightly there's a lot of passion around it and a
lot of people want to see it be successful.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
It's actually just that little bit of how that we
need to that we need to resolve.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
What's happening in a couple of months.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Well, I think there's a lot of discussions to be had.
Speaker 8 (13:24):
You've got a new collective bargaining agreement to be agreed,
You've got pathways to be agreed and proposals that have
been put forward, and I think it will be an
interesting time for everyone to sit down and talk throw
those from all the different stakeholders.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
But I think we're at a point where we.
Speaker 8 (13:46):
Feel we feel there needs to be some stakes in
the ground about what programs are actually important and what aren't.
I mean, they've all got some level of importance, but
it's we just can't just can't do everything.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
And Andrew Haw, what I've got you here? You haven't
had a call from Joey Manu, have you?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
No?
Speaker 8 (14:07):
No, it would be quite fitting, wouldn't it on a
Pacific a week for the Blues to you know, take
on and bring through.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Another player of his quality.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
But not as yet.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
No.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
I'm sure he's looking for a number.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So he's born in talking, I think so that's probably
more likelyhood knock on the door of the Chiefs. But
I mean, I don't know. You don't know anything he's
got out of the plate. It's quite fascinating because I
expect that he's decided he's quite good at rugby. He
probably doesn't need to go and play over France. He
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can go back here, play a bit of NPC and
then maybe work his way towards super rugby. That's that's
a that's an understandable route, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Yeah, welcome with open arms arms. He would enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
He will love the right call is your call on
eight eight Sports Talk, Call on your home of Sports
News Talk.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
A big fan of the show is Joey Maner, he'll
be listening. Yeah, you know what I'm going to give
Andrew Orring. I'll give you my number, Joey.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Just call me up.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
It's oh no, it's not anything to do with that
at all. That's Andrew Whore, the Blues chief executive, talking
about the timing of a Super Rugby Opike finals at
five past seven. It is on Saturday night. The question
for you out there is should ends I've given the
final a clear prime time slot on a Saturday night.
(15:34):
When I say, yeah, no opposition if there be other sports, granted,
but there is a Super Rugby men's game going on
at the same time nights, they've got a weedge to
get there and said, look, this is important to us,
this is important for the continued development of women's rugby.
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We would like it to stand alone. Would suggests that's
impossible because the broadcasters have water tight contracts, not the
contracts anything joy money, water tight contracts around what they're
expecting with the money they pay, and that would be
at five past seven on a Saturday night, a man's
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game of Super rugby. That's what they want. I doubt
you a better clear that out. Even with whatever intention
they have, but they got there. And I say that
this situation, this is an an interesting litmus test for
not only the Blues, for New Zealand rugby. And it's serendipitous,
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that's what it is. For chillitis. Even this wasn't by design.
The Blues just happened to get into the final and
they've done very well. I'm going to defend their title
up against Matatu and they just happened to have a
big Pacific event going on at Eden Park, which means
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while they could stick it in there at that primetime slot,
men were playing in the afternoon, so why not throw
them in at night? Works well, so they'll find out
a lot about leakage, if you can call it that,
from the men's game, whether people stick around and want
to watch it afterwards, whether it will stand up on
its own ie people will turn up Sex thirty seven
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to watch the game there where it works as a
combo effort. And on TV, I think people who sit
down to want to watch a bit of rugby, I
would encourage them to maybe not watch the Heartlanders, maybe
take a look at Opicky, just to have a look
cc about what women's rugby is and it might work
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really well, it might not. Should they have cleared the
decks though? Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty it was
a nice in a dream world. It never happened because
the other sponsorship. I just yeah, it's searingtibitous occasion, that's
what this is. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Lines
are are open. I would like to think they should
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have done, but I appreciate they never will be able
to because the money's simply not there. This is News
Talks c B twenty five past seven.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Still start singing, you don't need to be TMO. We've
got the breakdown on sports talk call Oh eight hundred
eighty News Talks bod B.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Seven twenty eight Sports talk on News Talks EB on
a Thursday and night, im Darcy water Grave lines are open,
oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It can text the
thoughts nineteen ninety two. That's said BZB that want to
track a standard text charge. Good evening, Ben, Oh.
Speaker 11 (18:57):
Good evenings, thank you. So yeah.
Speaker 12 (19:00):
I was lucky enough in Auckland to make all the
games for their home games, you know, going up to
Fung Gray and being at Eton Park and all that.
But I really had to like look up and find
where are these teams going and all that it wasn't promoted,
like I had to really try and find out what's
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happening with.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Well, no, no readily available schedule. There wasn't something released
by opicking to tell you where they were.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
You know.
Speaker 12 (19:29):
My wife was like, oh my god, your team is
going up there because I love Rugby. You know, my
wife is like blues all the way, like for the boys,
you know, and then you know, I'm with the girls
and she was like, oh, the girls are playing on program.
I'm like, we need to put some picture on a
car and go up there.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
And that's that's bizarre. I think it's great that you're
following around, but I find that weird that there was
no schedule.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I do.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
It doesn't sound right medicorning a liar bean, but it
does seem strange. I think maybe bigger picture rather being
promoted correctly.
Speaker 12 (19:59):
They're not being promoted correctly because I had to like
look it up on you know, get it on the
website and like, all right, that's where the girls are
going here and there and there, And I'm like, all right,
so we need to follow them. You know where we can.
So it's like it's not promoted right, Like that needs
to come out of it, Like here's the competition.
Speaker 11 (20:18):
That's what the girls are doing, and.
Speaker 12 (20:21):
That's the places that they're playing, and so people can
turn up. You know, it was such a great atmosphere
to just go up there and follow these girls in
this team around Auckland. It was such a great, great time.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
So to tell me Ben about a final and this
is a stroke of luck and I'm sure they'll learn
a lot out of this. The fact that the Blues
playing in the afternoon, the Blokes against Majana and then
as a final ad Eden Park under the lights. This
is a big deal and it just happens to find
itself in this prime time slot should have been cleared
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out completely. Is this going to work? Are you expecting
people to walk up for that game or leak over
from the Majana game or you've been to these games,
how do you think it's going to operate?
Speaker 12 (21:07):
Or what what we decided was like when we're not
going to turn up to about an hour before the
girls final because the boys are playing earlier. So we
decided like, oh we'll just wait and wait and get
our tickets. We've already got tickets, so then we'll go
to the girls final because we don't actually care about
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the Blues Warner PACIFICA. I mean that's no, I mean
that's it's.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Not a final. It's not a final. You've been following
the girls the whole way, so you want to see
how they fall up against mad That's.
Speaker 12 (21:41):
Right, that's right. So you know, and I've met the
march or two girls when we went to Fungrari.
Speaker 9 (21:46):
I went out.
Speaker 12 (21:46):
I was like, it was a great experience. And we
went out there and we met the girls and with
my blues jersey on and all that. And then one
of the girls from Manchester was like, you better turn
up on the final wearing a different color. I'm not
going to give you a signature and unless you were
a different color. And I told my wife, I'm like,
I'm going to have to go around came out around
Auckland and find a kill jersey so I can. I
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won't say who the player is.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
But I was like, oh my god, I don't don't
be don't bean to that pressure from athletes. Don't do
it to yourself. Thanks very much for your call, though,
I'll give you the tip you need a new phone.
Your your microphone's terrible. But I like the content, so
we ram with it.
Speaker 11 (22:29):
I Trevor Darcy, how are you?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I'm very well. How about yourself today? I'm John Wick.
Speaker 11 (22:36):
John Wick.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
No, I've never seen the movie either. It's just a
good response.
Speaker 9 (22:43):
Either.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Oh.
Speaker 11 (22:46):
I find it very interesting when you talk about sports
and you mentioned male, male and female and at least now,
I mean it used to if you sort of diaid
something about female sport. Yeah, sexus your sexist. But I'll
give you a couple of points about it. Darty the
Australian Open, which was a very good test of that.
One year they try playing the men first and the
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ladies of the late game, and it was just a
total embarrassment for people that wanted to support the woman's game,
because you get the crowd actually left after the men
played and didn't stay for the late game. So you know,
I'm sure all those people that chose not to do
it weren't all male. Chauvin has packs, you know what
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people say and that, and I just think it's a product.
I mean, I just think it's the product.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
That you get.
Speaker 11 (23:35):
I mean, look, you think back to the Ladies Rugby
World Cup. I mean, talk back a fantastic rugby. It's
the best rugby. It's better than men's rugby. You remember that,
didn't you ask you for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It's different than men's rugby, but it's still it was.
Speaker 11 (23:50):
More enjoyable, it was more So what's happened since then?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Well, I think that New Zealanders do have this habit
of turning up to events as opposed to long term series,
and we've seen that with Super Rugby. You're seeing the
quarters in the semis or sorry the semis in the finals,
a lot more people will turn up. So in the
finals when there was knockout and accounted, a lot more
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people climb because they wanted to be part of that experience.
Speaker 11 (24:18):
Yeah no, you did right. So what you're saying is
people will get it. Just getting a little bit excited
about what the World Cup was going to do for
women's rugby.
Speaker 9 (24:28):
I mean I.
Speaker 11 (24:29):
Always thought, no, no, just wait and see this as
the World Cup, big event, good old ky with sports
people out there supporting it, showing the world we love
out sport. But you wait till next year. There won't
be crowds at the women's games. And you know, I
just hope people don't think because I'm going to the
men game, not the ladies game. Ah, text your pigs,
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you know, shaping us men. No, No, it's not like that.
Say it's what you get and what you want to
put your time to. And as I say to Kennis,
what was it?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (24:59):
I know, but the real reason is but probably the
real reason is they don't support it. It's because they
don't enjoy watching it. And it's okay to say that
it's not as dynamic. You know, it's not as dynamic,
it's not as agile, whether you like it or not.
It's just the people. I think it is dynamic going
it is edging there.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Trevor, Trevor, I'm not the public. Okay, I'm not the public.
I can't speak for them, and I won't. What I
think you'll find a woman's rugby is it's going to
take quite a while to get the tracks in the
building till it brings out, which is what happened with
men's rugby, which has been going for over one hundred years.
It's new and they need a length of time. How
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can we bid this sin? What works, what doesn't work
and maybe after five or ten years time they say
this is not working, this is not good for us.
We've got to stop. But if you give it a
half fast attempt and drop it after a couple of years,
I think that's a real shame.
Speaker 11 (25:59):
Because no, you don't, you don't, And I agree with you, Darcy.
Look I look at the woman's rugby league competition in
Australia and the growth and the quality of those ladies
playing rugby league in Australia still wise and that is
it's just been unbelievable in five years that they've done it.
And I'll sit down on what.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Five years we've had opiki going for a couple of
years and I think that'll lift and we've got to
give these things time to breathe. Rugby is not just
about the All Blacks and the Super Rugby champion County.
Speaker 11 (26:34):
Well, I just want to know all the people to
ask you that were magnificently enthusion for women's rugby. They
never thought it was that good. As exciting watching the
Rugby World Cup. I'd like some of them to ring
up and say, well, what's happened?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Well, no, said true that we're very much focused on
pinnacle events and big events, and people go to them.
It's a novelty and they want to be there. I
was at the Rugby World Cup final when at the
last minute a line out occurred right in front of
your ed and the Blackman's won. Of course we want
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to be around that. I think that the day to
day competition, it's going to take a long time to
bed in. Patience, grasshopper, patience. Let's run through a couple
of texts nine two ninety two. That's a z B
z B. Graham Agars is just around the corner talking masters. Oh,
a guy Texan said, who won the past three contest?
(27:34):
It was a bloke called Nico E. Cavaria. It might
be Ichavaria, but it's Ovaria, so they won't be winning
the green jagget will he kiss of death doing that?
No one's ever picked up the part three comp and
gone on to win the whole shooting match. But Nico won.
JJ Spawn is actually in a playoff with JJ Sporn.
I don't know if that curses JJ as well or not.
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Darcy siber Roby Opicky is a nice idea, but it's
not commercially viable. Nobody's watching it. And the players want
to be paid more. That's just commercially stupid by the
njed R from Steve. Steve, I get that it's not
probably commercially viable right now. Doesn't mean to say it
can't be for me to say you don't invest resources
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into the game, because you've got to think about what
women's rugby is and the growth of women's rugby at
a younger level, about getting people out there playing, staying fit,
enjoying the camaraderie and being engaged in a big, local
community family pursuit. It's not just about the top class
and how much money you can make. The money that
the ends are makes is for all of rugby, all
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of rugby, whether you like it or not. It's not
just for the all blacks, all of rugby. And they
have to promote the game amongst waking They they have to.
That's their job otherwise they're going back into the fifties.
I mean, who wants that hold on a lot of
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the pus do, don't they? Whoops that just popped out.
It's twenty one away from eight eighteen minutes to eight.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
It is.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Break sticky around the corner. Graham Haygars joins us now
though Masters golf, corresponding to forty four now, what a
mad career. He joins us to talk Masters.
Speaker 9 (29:34):
Even Graham Darthy, good to speak with it.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Great to have you on what is it forty four
years now covering the Masters? I'm amazed you can remember.
Does it still give you a spark when you wander
in there at Augusta?
Speaker 9 (29:49):
It sure does, you know. My two favorite golf tournaments
are the Masters, and it's a fantastic way to start
the year of Majors. And the other one is the
British Open, which is still the most raw event in golf,
particularly if he gets some really nasty weathers. So this,
as I said, is just the most beautiful start of
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the year. We go back to a course that everybody
knows all about because they play here every year. There's
a huge number of advantages for that, and the place,
despite a hurricane that went through here last year, looks
absolutely pristine, even if there are a few less trees
than they normally are, So you know, we're heading for
another great championship. In the weather I think going to cooperate.
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It's a little bit up and down with a chance
of some showers. Around early on, but mostly it looks
like being a beautiful spring week in AUGUSTA.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
What so no roaming storm clouds to wreck it all
and try and za people waving their five lines in
the air.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
Well, you don't want to say that in springtime in
this part of the world, because anything can happen. The
forecast generally is mild temperatures and a chance of some rain,
cloudy conditions and maybe the odd thunderstorm much sneak in,
But we're not talking about that. We're going to be
positive and think that it's going to be one of
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those beautiful springtime masters without any nasty weather upsetting it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yes, let's go along that direction. So who's in? Who
are the favorites? Who's looking like they're going to give it?
Speaker 7 (31:21):
What for?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
After a couple of days hanging around practicing, you got
an inside word for us, Graham.
Speaker 9 (31:28):
Well, we've all been looking for storylines, and after two
days of being here and listening to a whole bunch
of players who've come down to this, it could be
between the world number one and defending champions Scottish Scheffler
and Rory McElroy, who needs just this tournament to complete
his collection. Of all four Grand Slam tables, Rory has
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won twice already, including the Players Championship three weeks ago.
Coming into this tournament, Scottish Scheffler is trying to win
his third Green jacket in four years, if you can
believe that. He of course got away to a bad
start early in the year when he injured his hand
trying to help out in the kitchen, broke a glass
and it damaged the tendons in one of his hands.
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That's all recovered. He's a little short of match play,
so coming in there are a few questions about him.
But if you take those two guys out of the equation,
it's wide open. You could pick any one of six,
eight ten players at all, all got a chance of winning,
and it could be a surprising Masters if the two
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big stars fail to fire new players.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
You said, experience there is everything, so you would doubt.
I know, you'd probably know the gray A guys as
anyone turned up on their first a tint at the
Masters and walked off with the jacket. And is there
anyone around at the moment that might better fill that spot?
Speaker 9 (32:53):
One player Fady Zella in nineteen seventy nine. So the
odds darsy are pretty slim. I don't see a first
time winner this time round. You do need experience to
play the course, and we've only had one exception in
eighty eight previous playings of the Masters, So we'll stick
with that and say that it's going to be somebody
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who knows their way round. We could get a surprise
when let's say a guy like Memory Lee, the young
Australian who won for the first time on the PGA
two weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
How good was that watch? That was stunning? I did
last eighteen was quite something else. Herman is a caddy
and working under the tree. But the way he went through, man,
that is some nerve. That guy's got nerves of steel.
Speaker 9 (33:40):
Yeah, And here's the thing about him. He loves the attention.
Some guys get nervous and you know, sort of don't
want to really be in the spot like this guy
lives in the spotlight. So that's why I'm thinking he
could have a you know, a breakout championship here. He
played here last year, so we can't put him down
as a fuzzy zella rookie, but he's pretty close to it.
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And that went on the piece tour has given him
enormous confidence going into this tournament. So you know, if
you're looking for somebody a little bit off the beaten track,
he could be good. So good Tommy Fleetwood. They're incredibly
talented Englishman who just cannot get it across the line
in a major. This may be the one that he
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does it. He's ideally suited that this game. He's good
around the greens, he's accurate off the tee, and he's
got this sort of game that could win the championship.
And then you've got a couple of high profile live
players that are here at the championship. US Open champion
Bryce and Deshamba Brooks Kopka and John Rahm, who is
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a former Masters champion. We don't know how those guys
are actually playing because we don't see them that often.
You can't really take the results on the live too
seriously because it's just the same fifty guys playing each
other fourteen times a year. So that's sort of the
wild cards in the mix of the Championship this year.
They're all good enough when we know they were won majors,
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but whether they'll pull it off this week will be
an interesting test.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Forget the riffs call.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
You make the call on.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Sports Talk on your home of Sports News Talk hib Talk.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, it was great. Ay Gas, long time golf corresponding
tennis as well. Loves both sports. Of course he knew
about Fuzzy Zella. Silly question to ask twelve and it's
away from eight. Coming up next, Brady Kosticky. Let's talk
supercars here on news Talks hereb.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Is that so well?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
It's nine minutes to eight. Let's talk race cars and
Brody Kosticky twenty twenty three champion of the supercars that
joins us now, welcome to the show. Good evening, Brody,
thanks for having me on the show.
Speaker 7 (35:54):
Much appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, looking, thanks for joining us, and welcome back to
New Zealand. Good to see you here again. You're probably
looking for slightly better results this time around, but you're
still on the up and up with DJR. It's only
been what a couple of months now with the new team.
Speaker 13 (36:10):
Yeah, it has been so Yeah, we've had two rounds
together and slowly been building.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
Obviously going to Sydney. You know, we ended the Sunday,
you know, not too bad.
Speaker 13 (36:20):
Just knocking on the door of the podium and you know,
going to the Grand Prix obviously didn't didn't start off
you know that great, but we got there in the
end and the car was pretty speedy towards the end
of the weekend and obviously just missing that last race
in the rain there, which would have been interesting.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
What's like running second fiddle to Formula One? This is
an odd time of year. I know that it's been
put up there being myself during that weekend because the
Aussie fans love their supercars and it's a way of
dragging the crowds along. But playing second fiddle. How's that
for you, Brody?
Speaker 7 (36:52):
I didn't know we actually were playing second fiddle.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
It's the correct hunter the short shart racing. Is that
comfortably with you?
Speaker 8 (37:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (37:02):
The Grand Prix always puts on, you know, a great
spectacle there and you know, probably a little bit hard
for you know, I guess the broadcast we're pretty restricted
by f one of what they can and can't show.
But yeah, it's obviously always a great race there, and yeah,
the short sharp races always produced some great racing.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah, and puts an emphasis on pole as well. You
get up the top there and hard to pass, right.
Speaker 7 (37:26):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
What about Topal what does that bring you were there
last year didn't have the best results mid teen somewhere
I think it was. But you've got three consecutive races
coming up in the super forty. Tell us about top
all your experiences there and how you hope to improve
from last year.
Speaker 13 (37:44):
I think, first of all, it's great to be back
in New Zealand last year and to be racing at Topaul.
The Army on the whole of amasas absolutely fantastic. It
was such a great spectacle and so passionate as well,
you know, all the New Zealanders and you could really
hear them cheering for their you know, there are home
boys as well. So yeah, it's always a great round
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and looking forward to guning to enter this weekend.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
We'll see if the weather can hold off.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I always talk about the pummus dust because that is
an odd one, especially for foreign visitors who don't know
tope Will particularly. Well, what does that bring to you
guys and the car? Do you pay much attention to
that when the wind gets up?
Speaker 7 (38:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (38:23):
I think you know, we obviously stayed in the lake there,
which is absolutely fantastic. But yeah, it's pretty cold there
around this time that you will we go, so the
wind is always quite cold. And obviously being being an
Aussie living in Queensland, you know where the weather's quite
nice generally, probably not so much this year of the rain.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Yeah, it's like it's like going to the snow, almost
without the snow.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
What kind of building you've been doing with the with
the new team in the car, what's your primary focus?
They're not yours, but but the engineers and the spanner blokes.
What are they looking to try and improve on in
this Mustang?
Speaker 7 (38:58):
You know, getting a custom to it.
Speaker 13 (38:59):
It's a little bit different than you know, the old
manufacturer that I was driving last year, and I guess
just you know, trying to get on top of that
as quick as we can, and you know, we're learning
every race that the car likes something a little bit different.
So I'm very fortunate to have some great people around me,
you know, within the Shelvy Racing team and you know,
some people that I worked with last year as well,
which does really spin up that process. But yeah, we're
(39:22):
still battling a few other issues as well as many
other four teams with a bit of straight line handling.
So until the category gets on top of that and
does that job properly, yeah, will probably be hands tided
for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
When you come to racing time, how much does the
weight of success push you down or not? Because of
course you're a Barethirst winner. You picked up Gold Coast
last year as well, and look you won the championship
a couple of years back. Is that a hindrance or
help something you ignore?
Speaker 7 (39:53):
It's all fantastic.
Speaker 13 (39:54):
I've been very fortunate to be able to win a
lot of racers now, a lot of pole positions, you know,
win you know, one of the world's biggest motor racers
and you know, win a championship here in Australia and
so it's it's all fantastic. And I guess I've you know,
got that taste for you know success back in twenty
twenty three when I won my first race and and
sort of you know, know the job that needs to
(40:16):
be done, and you know, I know that I'm capable
of doing it.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
You know, I've got a fantastic team around me.
Speaker 13 (40:20):
So it's just putting all these ingredients together and you know,
mixing them all together and you know, just gone by
the recipe.
Speaker 7 (40:27):
So yeah, we're getting there slowly.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
It must be a comfort knowing that you do belong
and you can actually compete, even though the results haven't
been forthcoming this year. I think it's sitting in fifth,
but you do know, even as a younger pedler, this
is we belong.
Speaker 13 (40:42):
It's got to give you strength, definitely, And yeah, I'm
just so fortunate to have a team that really believes
in me, which is you know, fantastic. So yeah, we'll
you know, we'll get the Shelvy power Mustangs back up
the front where they belong. And it was great the
last racing in Melbourne Grand Prix was it was great
to be you know, alongside Will Davis and my teammate
and we're you know, fourth and fifth at one point
(41:02):
trying to drive up to the podium. So it was
you know, just you know, little baby steps here and
there and hopefully after a few more rounds will be
containing for race wins.
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Speaker 2 (41:21):
Z it be yes, it's three minutes away from eight.
That was Brady Gastecki joining us ahead of the two
full forty three races, two on twenties on Saturday and
a longer two hundred k race on the Sunday. I
like this text old mate saying Opik isn't commercially viable.
Neither are sevens or rugby in the Pacific. They don't
(41:41):
do these things to make money. We do it because
it's the right thing to do. Does the MPC make
any money? No? Ask Hurricanes if Super Rugby makes any money.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
No.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Stop getting hit up about how much money you're making
in Arci Watergrave and you do. Thank you very much
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