April 15, 2025 • 42 mins
D'Arcy Waldegrave returned to wrap another day of sports news! Highlights for tonight include:
NZ Herald rugby writer Liam Napier on Mark Tele'a's plan to ditch the All Blacks for Japan.
LISTEN ABOVE
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Waldegrave
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Greetings, greetings, greetings, well come on in sports Talk seven
minutes after seven of is there. It's Tuesday night, April fifteen,
twenty twenty five. Got me for an hour, but you
can join into l eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
three phone number right across at TIERA or New Zealand.
For those who get triggered, you can text nine two
(00:40):
ninety two that has said B said that B. That
will cost your standard text charge and in your thoughts
though regard, I'd rather you called, but if you want
to text, text away, we're going to talk the disappearance
of tillet wouldn't you like? He's not been taken away
by Argentinian junter and it's gonna be chucked out of
a plane ord and he's just going to Japan. But
(01:02):
announced the day poorly keep secret.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
People had a rough idea that he was going to disappear,
but today it was official with one of the best
Instagram posts I've ever seen. If you are on Instagram,
follow Tullia and have a look. It's a super cool
way to announce his retirement's all well, ants, who's producing
their programmte Hell, it's all kind of mangeresque, isn't it.
Have you seen the post? No, okay, that's fine, but
(01:27):
i'll show it to you. You understand modern comic book ideal,
so you'd know you have been around for a long time. Well, okay,
modern to me. You're right, fine, Okay, we'll just be
there's any matter of time before that came out, wasn't it? Anyway?
So Liam Napier joins us shortly to talk about that question.
(01:48):
Few out there do they pick them? It's that simple,
And this is a debate that we have all the
time around players that are no longer loyal to the jersey.
This is the coach maintained some form of loyalty to
them for their last dance. Well, talk to Liam Napier
(02:09):
about it anyway, as he played his last All Black test,
how much he'll be missing. Whose replacement is going to be?
Do we have some? Of course we have some. Shake
a tree and a wigger will fall out. They're everywhere, easy,
no dramas. We're also going to hear from Caitlincaller and
Braxton Sorenson McGhee two of the Wahana who superstarted over
(02:31):
the weekend at Eden Park when they picked up their
second Oh Picky title in a row. They've done it
on the bounce, they've beat much or two all and
what a way to beat them as well. If you
haven't seen it, you should have done gone grad to
take wats the replay. It is something else now that
is an entertaining game of rugby. So we'll hear from
(02:51):
those two individuals for the end of the show, primarily
that it's all about you and me, baby on our
waight one hundred eighty ten eighty nineteen ninety is the
text line before that, Let's do what we normally do,
which is this in Sports Today Champion Super Rugby O
Picky Caitlin vahakl or once more after beating Math of
(03:13):
IWO for the title on Saturday night, the Blues Winger
once a crossover season and not just a one off
game against the Australian champions which is happening on Thursday night.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I would love if we could do it like and
season the Super w and Super Rugby Opick to crossover
during this season, not just after. I think they'd be
really cool. I think it would also help grow Australia's
foot I think it would really help with their game.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
No, they played each other. This is the wartas in
the Blues. To start the season it was a Walmart Max.
Now they're going to do it all over again for
the Trans Tasman title for the Wahina. If you will
still on Rugby Hurricanes quartersher Cokette than a Saffo o
Moor is channeling Scott Barrett. The Canes hooker has criticized
(03:55):
his own form, hoping maybe they bounce back like Barrett
this week in maybe h I don't think it's more
the team.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
The other controller was like in control.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I know, I definitely need to get a bitter and
sovenras of my game. So covered he put on the
team for your own performance, he said on abral CEO
Jenny Wiley is non committal around the potential eight n
Z premiership. Cull Netble New Zealand are brewing something up,
but we can't have a taste or even a smell
at this stage.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
We're looking at several options and none of them were
really in a position to speak about at the moment.
They're quite confidential and we're working really closely with our
broadcast partners at the same time.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, I hope so wouldn't have Jenny. And when Rory
mclroy was eight. Honestly, they're dredging everything they possibly can
to celebrate Royal Royal Rory McElroy, everything they possibly can,
and I understand it. That was a stunning, stunning last
round and a great achievement. Anyway, they found this when
(04:56):
he was eight. He had pretty high hopes. He's obviously
the latest golfer. Had joined the elite Grand Slam Golf
Club after claiming his green jacket at Augusta to complete
the set. But he told the BBC early days about
his master.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
Plan turn and throw on ten album urgers.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And would you like join them all in one year? Yeah, okay,
there's still a chance, right, And that's the sport today
and it's warm. Welcome to New Zealand Herald of Rugby
writer Liam Napier. Big story today around mark Talia, one
of many. It seems to happen with the regular monotony,
these players up and going off to Japan. It's almost
(05:38):
not a big story because we can't knew it was
coming and it happens all the time.
Speaker 8 (05:42):
Yet there's been a few in recent time, says't I
guess it's been a few stay as well, Damien McKenzie
o More Jordi Barrett's currently on sabbatical, but he's committed
long term. But Mark Talia will be a big loss.
Twenty eight years old in the prime of his career.
He's an incumberent starting All Black swing and one of
the more elusive finishers in the world game.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So assuming that the hook there was continued employment for
three years, that would have been what dragged him over.
It wouldn't have been conditioned or anything else. It's purely
based on what do I do next?
Speaker 8 (06:18):
Yeah, security and cash, So I don't think you can
make bones about it. That the chance to set yourself
up from a financial perspective, the independence that that brings
as a twenty eight year old winger. Wingers do tend
to expire earlier than other players. There's a history of
(06:40):
All Black greats Jeff Wilson, Christian Cullen, Joan Lomu. None
of these guys played for the All Blacks belt beyond
the age of twenty seven years old. So wingers do
tend to get surpassed earlier than others. And if you
look at one position where bolters come out of the
woodwork and NIHI milna scudder, why sucking the hole low?
(07:01):
Come World Cup time, All Blacks and other teams tend
to select on forms.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
So Mark Tale has assessed the lad of land here.
Speaker 8 (07:08):
He's going to double his wage as I understand that,
going up to Japan to play for Toyota, Steve Hanson
and in Foster's team up there. So from his perspective,
he's weighed up adding a few All Blacks tests, scoring
a few more tries potentially, but no guarantee contesting another
World Cup or setting himself up for life.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Difficult decision for him to make, because going to another
World Cup, being a hero there, this is what he's
fought for, through North Harbor and the Blues and neverwhere
else he's been. So to actually assure all that and
move on to an early retirement that is hard. Is
it all money, not that you know him, but how
much of that is generated by fear of falling off
(07:52):
that age cliff and not actually being picked anymore? He thought,
I'll run now while I can.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
Yeah, I think it is the security that I haven't
spoken to Mark himself.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
But It is a brutal industry professional sport.
Speaker 8 (08:06):
With them, you're a coach or a player, you're at
the whim of selection of coaching changes.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
It's a volatile industry, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
You're flavor of the month one minute, gone the next
and even last year, Mark Talia, if you go back
to the starter Raisers, tenure wasn't in favor. He favored
severe Reese to start the year and by all accounts
that was one of the sticking points between him and
Leo McDonald. Leo McDonald favored Mark Talier and Razor favored
(08:35):
Severe Reese. But by the end of the year Mark
t Lea had forced his way into that squad. He
started four of the five Northern Tour tests. He was
exceptional at Twickenham, scored two tries against England, one of
which he pushed off about you know two or three defenders.
He is incredibly elusive, He's deceptively strong, he's got fast feet,
(08:57):
he's got a good work great and as you mentioned there,
he has been a late bloomer. He had to really
scrap and fight and work hard at his game. From
West Aalkland, he spent three years with North Harbor before
he actually cracked the Blues, but he was an instant
hit when he cracked the All Blacks in twenty twenty two.
He was the wild Player Breakthrough Player of the Year
(09:20):
at following the twenty twenty three World Cup. So he's
recognized globally as a game breaker and he will be
a great get for Toyota in Japan.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Not being released by Toyota in Japan yet, but that's
kind of typical of Japanese clubs. They won't say anything
until all the tea's are crossed and the eyes are
dotted and everything else is up and running. So we're
sure that it's there because the Instagram post from Mark
didn't mention where he's going and just said Japan.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Yeah, there's certain protocols in Japan that have to be followed,
tick the boxes, and it's quite regimented and they like
to do things their way and announce it on their channels.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
The French quite similar in that regards.
Speaker 8 (10:04):
But yeah, New sort of leaked out the back in
the last week that he was likely to leave, and
Mark's confirmed that today. So I'd be very surprised if
it doesn't go up to Japan and link with his
form more Black coaches. Ian Foster was a big fan
of his, and he's obviously gone up there to Toyota
this year, so I've got no doubt that that connection
(10:26):
played a big part in Mark leaving and setting himself up.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Is he in All Black ever again? Or is that
ship sailed?
Speaker 7 (10:35):
I think if you're Raisy, you're probably looking to move on, aren't.
Speaker 9 (10:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
Mark's available by all accounts until the back end of
this year November.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
I think it is before he has to join his.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
Japanese club, So he could play France in July when
they come out here. He could play the Rugby Championship,
could play a part in.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
The Northern Tour.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
But you're probably looking at to move on and invest
in others, and your two years out from a World Cup,
you want to be formulated, starting to build plans around
your outside backs and solidify some combinations.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
So there's a real chance he has played his last test.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Who replaces him?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
There?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Are you shake a tree? A winger is going to
fall out of it. We've got so many in your film.
We're so lucky in that that twenty seven year old
Cliff Drop. We've always got someone that we can replace
and we've had it. You mentioned Nihim Miller's scudder came
here to know where before? Where do we go for
this year with all Black wingers. You've got Severe Reese
still floating about Caleb clarker with a challenge in there,
(11:32):
and then the list keeps going. There's there's a number
of players who do we like currently? Is it a
like for like replacement or they just find the next
best winger? What's the deal?
Speaker 7 (11:41):
He's probably not a like for like replacement.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
Mark's a very unique character and the way he plays
the game, you're very very deceptive.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
To look at him.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
He doesn't look fast or strong, or he's quite slight
to build. But there's nobody out there quite like him,
so it will be a bit different. I think Caleb
Clark's a lock on the left wing. He is the
incumbent's left winger by the end the year. Last year
really established his presence there. And then you are probably
looking at Sevy Reese, who has been good for the
(12:12):
Crusaders this year. Schaefe Hackey's another guy. He was a
surprising inclusion as injury cover and the All Blacks last year.
There's suggestions of Crusaders bias around his inclusions, but he
has been really strong on the wing for the Crusaders
when he's played this season. And then you've got guys
like twenty there's two twenty two year old prospects in
(12:34):
the mix. On the fringe anyway, Caleb tounguey tail has
been a revelation for the Highlanders this year and Makis
Springer at the Crusaders is in good form. And then
if you're looking for power options, you've got guys like
Kenny Naholo or a Tava Tavanawa, although he's playing in
the midfield and his forms dipped a little bit, So
it depends the type of winger that raises looking for.
(12:56):
Does he want a fast finisher? Does he want another
power wing to complement Caleb Clark. You've also got Les
Defying a Nuoku coming back from France and he by
all accounts is going to be available from the Rugby
Championship onwards in August, having signed for the Crusaders next year.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
He's predominantly played center for too line.
Speaker 8 (13:15):
Up in France the past two years, but has played
wing as well for the Crusaders, so a lot of
options there does It's going to be interesting to see
which way they go.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Liam. You touched on the possibility of a Crusader's bias
with Scott Robertson. I don't know how much truth there
is to that. If there is, I understand because plainly
he's coast heap to these guys, so he knows what
he can get out of him. But do you think
there's any traction in that suspicion that he is tending
(13:45):
toward red and black? Is it a fair accusation.
Speaker 8 (13:48):
I don't know if it's fear does, but it's certainly
a perception that's out there, and I think not just
among fans and punters, I think among certain players if
they're not picked and there's a Crusader favored Chaffee Hackey
was a real standout because there were wingers out there
performing much better than him at the time, and New
(14:08):
Zealand's never short of outside backs, so that was one
selection that really turned heads. While he didn't play for
the All Blacks, even been called into the squad ahead
of a number of others, I know put a few
noses out of joint, but it's raised his team. He
can select who he wants and look this year, Shafey
Harkey has played out of his skin at times, played
very well for the Crusaders. So his talent has clearly
(14:30):
been identified not just by Razor.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
But others in that coaching group as well.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
They brought him in and he's come back to the
Crusaders this year and really performed and justify that selection
to a degree. So all black, all coaches live and
die by their selections, don't they. And you're right that
they perhaps there's an inherent bias to players they know
and know their strengths, know their talents that they've worked
with before.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
But I don't know if you.
Speaker 8 (14:57):
Could say out and out there is a Crusader's bias,
but that perception is definitely out there in the rugby community.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Happened with Scott Barrett and I remember simply saying Scott Barrett,
he knows exactly what he does, and Scott Robinson knows
exactly what he does. Of course he's gonna pick him.
It's an absolute no brainer. It folded a bit in
the last couple of weeks, but check out Scooter over
the weekend. I think everything is a okay. And on
Matt Liam, thanks very much as always for your time
(15:25):
in Intel.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
Does forget the riffs call.
Speaker 9 (15:28):
You make a call on.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Sports talk on your home of sport.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
His talks, Hello, this is interesting. Did that come from.
There's a bug in the machine. It's probably my bug.
Quite frankly, I'd say, definitely my bug.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
So be it.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Anyway, where were we twenty two minutes after seven? He
kind of saw it coming. It was gonna thrown around
the traps. And now it's done and he's going to go.
That's it. He's going to go and play in Japan.
We believe we know where he's going, but the nature
(16:13):
of Japanese rugby is pointed out there by Limb there
pretty much to say anything unless it's some one hundred
percent official, but it looks like it's toy out of
a blitz trying to get a hold of Sir Steve
Hanson to get him on the phone, and it's text.
He goes toe, you know, no comment right now, ring,
which is understandable official. But now he's gone. Now he's
(16:34):
going to go. That comes back to that very basic question.
We've had this question before and it's been answered in
a couple of different ways by a couple of different
all black coaches. And we finished off or halfway through
that interview, Liam was talking about we possibly have seen
Mark tellout players very last game in the Black jersey
(16:55):
seems a bit rough, but he is going away. So
in your opinion, this is you. If you want, you
can try and predict what the All Black coaching staff
and selects and stuff may have made do. That's fine
if it was up to you, Does Mark tell our
carry on playing for the All Blacks? And you've got
(17:15):
to take into account a few considerations here the depth
of talent on the wing. Is there enough talent out there,
either already in existence in the All Black frame or
poking their nose through the swamp and super Rugby that
(17:37):
might get that opportunity. There's a couple of players out
there who might get that late caller, So is there
enough depth? It's the first thing you've got to think about.
And how important is this year for Scott Robinson as
far as winning every game. That's unlikely he'll do it.
But after a start, it was a shaky enough old start.
(17:58):
Now they're hitting the ground running, will they get some
flames at their feet? Because these things are part of
the decision making process that Robinson has to make. So
you tell me what you do. You pretty much need
to win everything. Yeah, you're establishing positions and you're getting
a chance for young people to come through. But with
(18:20):
a class of taut lea, do you keep him in
or do you go?
Speaker 9 (18:24):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Makee you're turning your back on the black jersey. We
don't care if you go seeal out of pal Oh
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. I don't think they'll pick
him again. Like I would like to see him play again,
because he's a fantastic player to watch play the game
of rugby. But he's made his bed. He's going to
have to line it. I don't see Robertson saying, oh,
(18:46):
you know what, we need you to help us out.
I think he backs himself enough as a coach to
select the new guns coming through. And in the case
of wingers, well they're everywhere, aren't they Your thoughts, I'd
love to hear you. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty lines.
We're open. This is News Talks. There be it's seven
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
You hear it from the biggest names and sports and men.
Have your say on eighty eighty Sports Talk on your
home of Sports News talks.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
It be.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Send uncle to nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Sports talk hearing news talks.
Speaker 10 (19:35):
Here be.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Lin's rapping one hundred and eighty ten eighty. We can
text nine two nine two. Shouldn't have put that out
he so some people have been texting, come on, give
us a ring. I'll have to hear from you all.
There's new Netflix film coming up called The Celtics. Look
at that looks like a good anyway, Enough of watching that,
asking about what happens now with Tyler? Does he get
(19:59):
an opportunity to finish an all black career? Because Scott
Robertson needs to win as many games as possible and
he's the form winger, he might disagree with that. Does
he deserve that opportunity to go out with a black
jersey on? Or has he just gone You made the call,
you make the bed, you sleep in the bed, went
(20:19):
on to see you later? Which way do you go?
Because this happens more and more. Look, we've retained some players,
and I think we should celebrate the retention of our
Moor and of Damien McKenzie. This is great. They want
to stay, but you are going to lose a fair
amount of players. And when you've got a guy like
Talau who is twenty eight year, remember twenty seven. That's
(20:42):
the all black wingers, Cliff Year. Once they get their father,
they just tend not to go any further. They fall
straight off the back of it. So he's maybe extended
as welcome by a good year. How do you make
your decision around this? What do you do? O? Eight
one hundred and eighty ten eighty I through a few
of your texts there. We don't have enough pace on
(21:07):
our wings. That's from David, So actually I don't know
how quick the relative wingers are. Are you interesting to
put a stopwatch on the man? Not necessarily pace, but
how elusive you are with that pace I think is
more just than a standard stopwatch situation. Does he move on?
(21:31):
We need to blood you guys, but we do wish
him well. And what about that young lad from more
one passifica? You want to be more specific on that one?
Mans if you can let us know, are you a
spot on bringing Shay fihky or I can't quite read
Bernie what you said there, but that's okay. There are
(21:52):
other players out there. Let's just jump to the phones
now today, Mark, how are you.
Speaker 9 (21:57):
On with you. He's made his beard. He can line.
It does use the opportunities that blood somew talent.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Are we going to are we going to mess the
infective nature? Because you know when he came back at
the end of last year and the overseas too, it
didn't really look like he's wanted and then he had
a couple of outstanding games. Did you transition time so
people can learn from hand?
Speaker 9 (22:19):
Well? Yeah, he is an exciting player to watch, but
he's he's going so as you say, if you kick
a tree ring or fall out of it, if someone
to go, it's.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
When did we last have something like that that was
in nhim? A scatterer? Wasn't it out of the NPC?
Speaker 9 (22:41):
Yeah, warmth.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
It's a shame that his body just keep breaking down
on him, But that was a case of all that
we found someone else.
Speaker 9 (22:49):
Yeah, the father you talked about from Canterbury, he's on.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Fire Schaffee hockey.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
Yes, and I thought he was quite he got he
caught my atteach last year. I thought he was quite
a good.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
John Steve guy. He's gone. They're not going to go
back there again. But you've got other players and I
suppose it's a Naway. He's now playing in the centers.
But there is an explosive, an interesting.
Speaker 9 (23:18):
Character Yepolo or is he taken by Fiji?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Nolo is available, I believe. I think maybe a junior
level he was, but I'm pretty sure it stand to
be corrected on that one.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
There's there's there's plenty of wingers, are you know the
Hurricanes have got a few to say, that's got a few.
Probably well it's been Clark and Talia at Auckland, but yeah,
they're bad.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I think so. Yeah, it's a line in the sand.
And I suppose though when you're when you're an all
Black coach, you need to draw those lines. But you
also need to be able to change your mind if required.
Because what is the idea of being the all Black
coach and selected? What's what's the primary dry behind it?
Speaker 10 (24:06):
Marke?
Speaker 9 (24:07):
What do they have to do well at the moment?
For the last few decades it's been World Cup cycles.
So raise us working towards the next World Cup. Kali
is not going to be part of it. You've got
to develop someone. You've got to develop someone.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Is that more important? Because I know there are a
lot of rugby purists out there who find that distasteful
that they're preparing for one to every four years. Is
there a theory that says maybe the All Black coach
needs depict players that are the best in their space,
that will win on the day, because it's not just
about winning a tournament. That's it's a bit of a distro,
(24:47):
isn't it the World Cup? Well?
Speaker 9 (24:50):
I am a bit of that way. Picked the best team,
and I've been critical of certain captains who are not
the best in their position in recent times.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But should it be driving to a World Cup?
Speaker 9 (25:04):
Though?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Should it be in each given year? We are the
All Blacks. We win as many games as you possibly can,
and we pick it accordingly.
Speaker 9 (25:11):
There is an element of that and the other thing
that since the World Cups we don't have the major
tours like we used to have, for like the tour
to South Africa and tours in England where you play
midweek games, and those midweek games where you gave young
fellows the opportunity you got to.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Blood them if you will. These days, when you have
an end of your tour, you're so shot because you've
been so busy all year. The other reserves in the
team just played because some of the main kinds just
fall over because.
Speaker 9 (25:38):
This Yeah, well that's the way rugby is nowadays. You know,
unless you're one hundred and ten kiloser, don't you can't
even well apart from someone like Taliah, you can't even
be a winger. Look at when I was young at
the left school, you had the Woodman brothers. Speaks to us.
They're not particularly big. You don't if you don't find
(26:00):
many of them, tell.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
You it's not that big. I mean, stand next to
me is bigger than I am, but I'm tiny. But
it's not the way.
Speaker 9 (26:10):
He's the exception for modern wingers. And he's a stepper
and he's exciting to watch because he stepped like seventy Yes,
here's another one and quite off on Seva. Reese has
been on the sideline because of Talia. So take Talia out?
What sub recent mark?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Thanks so much for your call, real pleasure. Do call again.
I eight one hundred eighty ten eighties twenty five at
minutes to eight. This is sports talk. What's the selection process?
If you're Scott Robinson, we've touched on it there. I
want to hear from you. I eight hundred eighty ten
eighty Well, I don't know what Scott Robinson gets told before.
(26:51):
We need to win every game he possibly can. And
my problem with focusing entirely on the World Cup, as
I said, it's a crap shoot. It's not necessarily a
crap shoot, but all the focus, all the attention, everything
you want, the whole world all build up. It doesn't
guarantee your World Cup. That just doesn't. You can make
like the spring Box and being absolute shambles and turn
(27:12):
up a couple of weeks of the new team for
the comp win the damn thing. I'm more interested, I
think in winning every game and going through a season
with the ninety win record. That's what the All Blacks are,
not building depth for a World Cup once every four years.
(27:33):
I don't like that. Pick the best teams at the time. Graham,
how are you good?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Very good crusader at the top of the table. So
I've got to be happy.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Last year just seems like a short nightmare, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
It does? Yeah, I mean after the Malana A Sower game,
you did, yeah, flashbacks, but but you know they got
back on track with two tough you know, CG and
Drewer and hurricanes away at a tough game. So yeah,
back in Scott Barrett, you know I did great.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, So when you've got much more of a full
quiver to sleep from. I recall last year there was
just injured guys all over the show. They just need
to go around a masking tape to help them out.
But it's changed. So where do you sit on this
is what does Razor do?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Well? It's a difficult one. I mean I won't I
sit on the fence of it because the honest I
won't be upset either way, I can. You know, Talia,
I'm not sayingous because an Auckland player, I probably move
with blues. I should say I sort of move towards
that possibly they have to look at other people, not
just solely because of the World Cup, I think because
(28:44):
of the challenges you know, later in the year, because
when they go on to it, and and and I'm
a bit like, you know, I get a bit sick
of hearing about the World Cup. So I call and
it drives out of the wall.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Actually, the spring box blew that theory out of the water.
Quiet and the shambles of a team that no coach
didn't know what was going on turned up put together
good care Pain sealed champions. It didn't take four years.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
No, no, And you look at the Whore and Wiley
and Hart when when they took over all they join
while it grows as the late grows, and how John
Hart joined with the Whore. They turned the eighty six
season around and won you know six months. Yeah, it's
a bit of a more.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
On picking the best team at the time, so the
All Blacks can go through the year going look, we've
got a ninety something percent win rate, we are the
best in the world. Is that more important through that
four year cycle than a one off two?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
You've got it. There's a bit of bus because I
think last year, you know, Raiser found out what was
like a black coach, you know, he put it over
from me and Foster with his record and well we
lost four games, and then other people a coach like
Scott Robinson. I mean it's there's no disaster, but you
know it's a tough gig International rugby now, well it
(30:05):
always has been, but I think there's more better teams around.
But yeah, what what's the I mean, we've got Kenny
Nahlo and sha Cy Harky planning playing the house down
and Cha's been a revelation this year and the whole
and you've got the Otago the Highlanders boys.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
So you know, Tom was outrageous. It's money these days,
he doesn't seem to be kind of popping up that
much was there and thereabouts he might be, you know,
getting into st What about moving Rica Yuanni back out
to the wing again.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Well, a few of us would like to see that happen.
There's probably probably if you had a vote on it,
would I think it'd be eighty percent. And Rugby fans, yeah,
well I never liked him at center. I mean he
was a great, very good winger. But yeah, I mean
that that would that opens up as a possibility. But
they got the depths to come. I mean, Talaia is
(30:57):
a big loss, you know, like Sevu, there's something about
he's a different type of player Sevu. But but but
they both play in the house down and yeah, so
yeah it is a shame. But yeah, that's just the
way it is. And I've got deeps, as I say,
wings one of there, but like half back and howkers
at the moment they're everywhere.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
We've got piles and Lucy's too. There will be there
will be some areas where we're weak. I'm sure Grahame
be listening out for the rest of the week because
at some stage young and to a team to we
check with Ethan.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Black air good?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, you got any questions? Jointed to ask her mate,
I'm was on us.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
You Well, I see him, I go to you know,
I do see him, but weeks but I will, I will, Yeah,
I'll think of.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Something, right, you'll think of something. You'll think of something,
all right, go on your grand Thanks very much for
your call. Ads always Chris with you shortly. It's nineteen
minutes to eight. It's a sports look on news talk.
Do you pick talor you for the All Black season
or do you go now? Actually we're going to build
for the World Cup. Picked up best player at the time, right,
(32:06):
sod the World Cup? The story dress me nuts. It's
not a guarantee of success if you build for the future.
When now pick the best player? Your thoughts please? Oh
eight hundred eighty ten eighty am I here a couple
of mighty blues? What hena who won Opiki over the weekend?
(32:29):
Having a yarned to the assorted media and it's all
to come. You're on newstalks eb Flowers and news Dog's
EBS Sports Talk come to Darcy Water, Great Wire. Hello,
(32:50):
there finds robinho one hundred eighty ten eighty eight more
and more. My clarion call is going to be up
the World Cup. I'm over it. I just want to
keep winning games of rugby in the regular time. Hey,
we'll win a World Cup every now and then, but really,
let's just keep winning. Pick the best players while they're here.
And no, muz, I'm not going to give it a
(33:13):
crack because I did play wing but I'll give you
a tip. I played wing back when wingers used to
throw the ball into the line out. I think that
says everything, doesn't it, Chris?
Speaker 5 (33:25):
It does coming from a grade three, grade seventeen player. Myself, Well,
I've been thinking about this for me. Is what you
do is you pick the best player for that game
(33:46):
if they're informed. But when it comes to wingers, they
have a shorter life in terms of midfield. Like you
just look at David Haavelli for the Crusaders. He's always
in the all black mix because he's solid. But you
burn through wingers quicker.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Well, unless the wing is quite smart decides to move
to the Midfield aka ton of Umong and a number
of others that have gone I'm too slow out here.
Now I'm getting found out. I'll bet he go further in.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Yeah, and that's what they do. I think the silliest
thing that we've seen in the All Blacks was Ione
going from the wing into the centers because he just
doesn't have the punch like Smith used to.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I disagree. I didn't think Smith had punch. I think
Smith was just an extraordinarily intelligent player and he knew
exactly what he had to do at the time. He
let Maru punch.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
I used to put the punch on, but he used
to get through the gap because they worked really well.
And I'm sort of from that old school feeling that
you always put the same twelve and thirteen from the
best province of the year during the NPC and figures
(35:08):
to groapy just I'm going back, guys.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
So you're five hours combinations, So tell me what you
do with Mark Tallia, Mark Tahala.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
You let him go, then go, because well, Caleb Clark
and he is our generational Lomo, not not Lomoo's style,
but he plays that.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Well less than Nukul was on his way back again.
I mean, he's been playing center over in France, but
he's a monster on the wing. I think, Chris, we
have options, and I'm with you. I don't go as
far as picking centers from the NPC, but I love
the way you're thinking. Thanks for your cool mate, No.
One hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 11 (35:52):
Hi, Paul, how are you mate?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I'm not so bad. I believe you're a big fan
of maccas spring of the Winger.
Speaker 11 (36:01):
Spring of the Winger, mate. I tell you what. I
don't know why the Crusaders, but Quikey he is good.
He has got really good a winners on the wing.
He doesn't creep in, he stays outside. He's got a
good understanding of where he plays, and I reckon he's
the next All black one.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Do you think he's got the inherent pace that's needed
or even the bolt that pot sometimes needed out? Is
he's strong enough? I mean you're having a I suppose
I'll go back to what I was talking about with
Comrade Smith before. You wouldn't say he's big, strong, fast,
that man. He's smart and you're leaning on that, aren't you, Paul?
Speaker 11 (36:38):
Yeah, one hundred percent understanding the game he does, and
he's sort of what I saw him do. It's like, wow,
you're not a big frame, but cheese, you understand where
you need to be.
Speaker 9 (36:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (36:54):
I don't think you go too far this with him,
but he is a crusader. Let's face it.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Well, here we get packed and then everybody will lean
into Scott Robertson saying would you stop picking crusaders and
start picking people from somewhere else? And of course he's
got no offense against that, he can say, but he's
the best player. It's not my fault. He's reading black.
It's good still, you know.
Speaker 11 (37:19):
Yeah, I think he's on a fine rope, to be honest,
because let's face it, he is a very smart coach,
but he's listening to too many other people. He's just
got to get back to his craft and pick the
players that he believes. And I'm sick of players out
of position with the other guy that's called up building
for World Cups. Well, I and Foster gets with building
(37:42):
for World Cups, but never blooded anyone. We've got to
get back to the basics of rugby. That's my view.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Win games of rugby. Paul, I love your work, Thanks
very much. For your Coincidentally, I've had a text and say,
if Race is being reviewed after two years, he probably
wants to lose the biases toward the Crusaders. Otherwise, should
we start a discussion on his replacement? Come on, Craig
and there's a lot of people in there. There's their
clibming into that, going well, if Mark had a different
(38:08):
colored jersey on it to be a different story. I
don't buy into that. I really don't. It's simple enough
to say because that's where he came from and that's
where we had many, many, many championships. It's not like
he's picked the Canterbury or the Crusaders, right. A couple
(38:28):
of other players around there somewhere coming up next to
there's some words from some super rugby O picky champions
cut in Vaha call there's one and Brex and Sarrens
and McGee is the other. What a game that was?
That's coming up next here on sports they've got news
(38:49):
talks there, but it's night away from a six months
away from my eight months last sharp heart to the
news with the package quick listen on and to a
(39:11):
couple of champion my honey fom the Blues who beat
Matta Too in a very engaging game at Eden Park
on a Saturday night. They did it. The media caught
up with a couple on this afternoon and here's Caitlin
call Or talking about the postmatch celebrations.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
My teammates definitely gave it there all after the final. Yeah,
it was a couple of days, a little bit of
a bender, but yeah, they're back into it and they're
looking sharp on the field. So I was just more
the super driver, right, I'm not even drive, just so
I think it's so important to celebrate things and just
let ourselves actually enjoy what's happened, so you'll wed hips
of f on them. I really enjoyed myself.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
And yeah, huge patients to sit around and talk to
people of drinking to celebrate. They can get very dull,
very fast. They're playing the war Tars on Thursday night
trans TASM Women's Championship match. If you will, it's what
Caitlin knows about them.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
I think up for the challenge, me personally because we
had a preseason against them and we drew. I am
out personally, out for revenge. I don't know how mud
makes a feelings, but we know that we have to
focus and we've got to do what we do normally.
We think that they bring a different game to Matter
two a little bit, and so it's going to be
cool to try out some of our moves and see
how our ship goes against the Australian teams. They obviously
(40:26):
wearing some good skill set, but I think we've got
what it tastes to, you know, be champions of champions.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I love the way these athletes just right out with it.
You we want revenge. There's no messing around, there's no
being polite and kind. It's like, you know, we're gonna
smash them, bro. And here is curtain of our call
or talking about Braxton Sorenson McGhee, I learned from her.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
She is so she's so school, but she's also really mature.
She is like I feel like I've been playing with
her for ages when we're in our team huddles. She's
only eighteen, but she's not afraid to actually say something
or tell the Fords or tell the girls that are
older than her like what they should be doing. And
I really respect that about it, and I really hope
that she makes the bag fans because she's so awesome
I've like, obviously I can encourage as much as someone,
(41:09):
but I'm also learning from you, so she's really awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yeah, and the player that Kat is talking about, Braxton,
quite extraordinary, wonderful intercept past that pretty much sealed the
game two points between the game nineteen twenty one inter
set past. It was something magic, so brexcellent? What were
you thinking when you know?
Speaker 10 (41:27):
The only think my mind was just to run, don't stop.
And then obviously when the Master two player got their
hands on me, I like, look to see if there's
someone there, but there wasn't, so I just had to
keep running. So yeah, I just don't get caught, keep running.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
And how many times Bres And if you watched the
replay of that try because it was something else.
Speaker 10 (41:47):
I've actually watched it a lot, but I've seen other
people watching it, which is really good. But yeah, I've
watched a lot because I've obviously on my Instagram, so
I just keep watching it.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
It's pretty cool though, It's very cool. And how did
you celebrate?
Speaker 10 (42:01):
Oh, it was really good. It was good to be
with the girls. We obviously stay together as a team.
We went out as a team, and obviously they'd be
drinking as a team. But yeah, I wasn't drinking obvious
excited drink. But it was funny fushing water girls.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Drink funny is one word. I'd say dull, but that's okay. Hey,
congratulations to the Blues like a mutter too fan one
of the women. That was a crazy old game and
thanks for producing. I'm Darcy Watergrave Gone Gone.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
For more from sports Talk, listen live to News Talks.
It'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Waldegrave
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Greetings, greetings, greetings, well come on in sports Talk seven
minutes after seven of is there. It's Tuesday night, April fifteen,
twenty twenty five. Got me for an hour, but you
can join into l eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
three phone number right across at TIERA or New Zealand.
For those who get triggered, you can text nine two
(00:40):
ninety two that has said B said that B. That
will cost your standard text charge and in your thoughts
though regard, I'd rather you called, but if you want
to text, text away, we're going to talk the disappearance
of tillet wouldn't you like? He's not been taken away
by Argentinian junter and it's gonna be chucked out of
a plane ord and he's just going to Japan. But
(01:02):
announced the day poorly keep secret.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
People had a rough idea that he was going to disappear,
but today it was official with one of the best
Instagram posts I've ever seen. If you are on Instagram,
follow Tullia and have a look. It's a super cool
way to announce his retirement's all well, ants, who's producing
their programmte Hell, it's all kind of mangeresque, isn't it.
Have you seen the post? No, okay, that's fine, but
(01:27):
i'll show it to you. You understand modern comic book ideal,
so you'd know you have been around for a long time. Well, okay,
modern to me. You're right, fine, Okay, we'll just be
there's any matter of time before that came out, wasn't it? Anyway?
So Liam Napier joins us shortly to talk about that question.
(01:48):
Few out there do they pick them? It's that simple,
And this is a debate that we have all the
time around players that are no longer loyal to the jersey.
This is the coach maintained some form of loyalty to
them for their last dance. Well, talk to Liam Napier
(02:09):
about it anyway, as he played his last All Black test,
how much he'll be missing. Whose replacement is going to be?
Do we have some? Of course we have some. Shake
a tree and a wigger will fall out. They're everywhere, easy,
no dramas. We're also going to hear from Caitlincaller and
Braxton Sorenson McGhee two of the Wahana who superstarted over
(02:31):
the weekend at Eden Park when they picked up their
second Oh Picky title in a row. They've done it
on the bounce, they've beat much or two all and
what a way to beat them as well. If you
haven't seen it, you should have done gone grad to
take wats the replay. It is something else now that
is an entertaining game of rugby. So we'll hear from
(02:51):
those two individuals for the end of the show, primarily
that it's all about you and me, baby on our
waight one hundred eighty ten eighty nineteen ninety is the
text line before that, Let's do what we normally do,
which is this in Sports Today Champion Super Rugby O
Picky Caitlin vahakl or once more after beating Math of
(03:13):
IWO for the title on Saturday night, the Blues Winger
once a crossover season and not just a one off
game against the Australian champions which is happening on Thursday night.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I would love if we could do it like and
season the Super w and Super Rugby Opick to crossover
during this season, not just after. I think they'd be
really cool. I think it would also help grow Australia's
foot I think it would really help with their game.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
No, they played each other. This is the wartas in
the Blues. To start the season it was a Walmart Max.
Now they're going to do it all over again for
the Trans Tasman title for the Wahina. If you will
still on Rugby Hurricanes quartersher Cokette than a Saffo o
Moor is channeling Scott Barrett. The Canes hooker has criticized
(03:55):
his own form, hoping maybe they bounce back like Barrett
this week in maybe h I don't think it's more
the team.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
The other controller was like in control.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I know, I definitely need to get a bitter and
sovenras of my game. So covered he put on the
team for your own performance, he said on abral CEO
Jenny Wiley is non committal around the potential eight n
Z premiership. Cull Netble New Zealand are brewing something up,
but we can't have a taste or even a smell
at this stage.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
We're looking at several options and none of them were
really in a position to speak about at the moment.
They're quite confidential and we're working really closely with our
broadcast partners at the same time.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, I hope so wouldn't have Jenny. And when Rory
mclroy was eight. Honestly, they're dredging everything they possibly can
to celebrate Royal Royal Rory McElroy, everything they possibly can,
and I understand it. That was a stunning, stunning last
round and a great achievement. Anyway, they found this when
(04:56):
he was eight. He had pretty high hopes. He's obviously
the latest golfer. Had joined the elite Grand Slam Golf
Club after claiming his green jacket at Augusta to complete
the set. But he told the BBC early days about
his master.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
Plan turn and throw on ten album urgers.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And would you like join them all in one year? Yeah, okay,
there's still a chance, right, And that's the sport today
and it's warm. Welcome to New Zealand Herald of Rugby
writer Liam Napier. Big story today around mark Talia, one
of many. It seems to happen with the regular monotony,
these players up and going off to Japan. It's almost
(05:38):
not a big story because we can't knew it was
coming and it happens all the time.
Speaker 8 (05:42):
Yet there's been a few in recent time, says't I
guess it's been a few stay as well, Damien McKenzie
o More Jordi Barrett's currently on sabbatical, but he's committed
long term. But Mark Talia will be a big loss.
Twenty eight years old in the prime of his career.
He's an incumberent starting All Black swing and one of
the more elusive finishers in the world game.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So assuming that the hook there was continued employment for
three years, that would have been what dragged him over.
It wouldn't have been conditioned or anything else. It's purely
based on what do I do next?
Speaker 8 (06:18):
Yeah, security and cash, So I don't think you can
make bones about it. That the chance to set yourself
up from a financial perspective, the independence that that brings
as a twenty eight year old winger. Wingers do tend
to expire earlier than other players. There's a history of
(06:40):
All Black greats Jeff Wilson, Christian Cullen, Joan Lomu. None
of these guys played for the All Blacks belt beyond
the age of twenty seven years old. So wingers do
tend to get surpassed earlier than others. And if you
look at one position where bolters come out of the
woodwork and NIHI milna scudder, why sucking the hole low?
(07:01):
Come World Cup time, All Blacks and other teams tend
to select on forms.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
So Mark Tale has assessed the lad of land here.
Speaker 8 (07:08):
He's going to double his wage as I understand that,
going up to Japan to play for Toyota, Steve Hanson
and in Foster's team up there. So from his perspective,
he's weighed up adding a few All Blacks tests, scoring
a few more tries potentially, but no guarantee contesting another
World Cup or setting himself up for life.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Difficult decision for him to make, because going to another
World Cup, being a hero there, this is what he's
fought for, through North Harbor and the Blues and neverwhere
else he's been. So to actually assure all that and
move on to an early retirement that is hard. Is
it all money, not that you know him, but how
much of that is generated by fear of falling off
(07:52):
that age cliff and not actually being picked anymore? He thought,
I'll run now while I can.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
Yeah, I think it is the security that I haven't
spoken to Mark himself.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
But It is a brutal industry professional sport.
Speaker 8 (08:06):
With them, you're a coach or a player, you're at
the whim of selection of coaching changes.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
It's a volatile industry, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
You're flavor of the month one minute, gone the next
and even last year, Mark Talia, if you go back
to the starter Raisers, tenure wasn't in favor. He favored
severe Reese to start the year and by all accounts
that was one of the sticking points between him and
Leo McDonald. Leo McDonald favored Mark Talier and Razor favored
(08:35):
Severe Reese. But by the end of the year Mark
t Lea had forced his way into that squad. He
started four of the five Northern Tour tests. He was
exceptional at Twickenham, scored two tries against England, one of
which he pushed off about you know two or three defenders.
He is incredibly elusive, He's deceptively strong, he's got fast feet,
(08:57):
he's got a good work great and as you mentioned there,
he has been a late bloomer. He had to really
scrap and fight and work hard at his game. From
West Aalkland, he spent three years with North Harbor before
he actually cracked the Blues, but he was an instant
hit when he cracked the All Blacks in twenty twenty two.
He was the wild Player Breakthrough Player of the Year
(09:20):
at following the twenty twenty three World Cup. So he's
recognized globally as a game breaker and he will be
a great get for Toyota in Japan.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Not being released by Toyota in Japan yet, but that's
kind of typical of Japanese clubs. They won't say anything
until all the tea's are crossed and the eyes are
dotted and everything else is up and running. So we're
sure that it's there because the Instagram post from Mark
didn't mention where he's going and just said Japan.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Yeah, there's certain protocols in Japan that have to be followed,
tick the boxes, and it's quite regimented and they like
to do things their way and announce it on their channels.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
The French quite similar in that regards.
Speaker 8 (10:04):
But yeah, New sort of leaked out the back in
the last week that he was likely to leave, and
Mark's confirmed that today. So I'd be very surprised if
it doesn't go up to Japan and link with his
form more Black coaches. Ian Foster was a big fan
of his, and he's obviously gone up there to Toyota
this year, so I've got no doubt that that connection
(10:26):
played a big part in Mark leaving and setting himself up.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Is he in All Black ever again? Or is that
ship sailed?
Speaker 7 (10:35):
I think if you're Raisy, you're probably looking to move on, aren't.
Speaker 9 (10:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
Mark's available by all accounts until the back end of
this year November.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
I think it is before he has to join his.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
Japanese club, So he could play France in July when
they come out here. He could play the Rugby Championship,
could play a part in.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
The Northern Tour.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
But you're probably looking at to move on and invest
in others, and your two years out from a World Cup,
you want to be formulated, starting to build plans around
your outside backs and solidify some combinations.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
So there's a real chance he has played his last test.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Who replaces him?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
There?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Are you shake a tree? A winger is going to
fall out of it. We've got so many in your film.
We're so lucky in that that twenty seven year old
Cliff Drop. We've always got someone that we can replace
and we've had it. You mentioned Nihim Miller's scudder came
here to know where before? Where do we go for
this year with all Black wingers. You've got Severe Reese
still floating about Caleb clarker with a challenge in there,
(11:32):
and then the list keeps going. There's there's a number
of players who do we like currently? Is it a
like for like replacement or they just find the next
best winger? What's the deal?
Speaker 7 (11:41):
He's probably not a like for like replacement.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
Mark's a very unique character and the way he plays
the game, you're very very deceptive.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
To look at him.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
He doesn't look fast or strong, or he's quite slight
to build. But there's nobody out there quite like him,
so it will be a bit different. I think Caleb
Clark's a lock on the left wing. He is the
incumbent's left winger by the end the year. Last year
really established his presence there. And then you are probably
looking at Sevy Reese, who has been good for the
(12:12):
Crusaders this year. Schaefe Hackey's another guy. He was a
surprising inclusion as injury cover and the All Blacks last year.
There's suggestions of Crusaders bias around his inclusions, but he
has been really strong on the wing for the Crusaders
when he's played this season. And then you've got guys
like twenty there's two twenty two year old prospects in
(12:34):
the mix. On the fringe anyway, Caleb tounguey tail has
been a revelation for the Highlanders this year and Makis
Springer at the Crusaders is in good form. And then
if you're looking for power options, you've got guys like
Kenny Naholo or a Tava Tavanawa, although he's playing in
the midfield and his forms dipped a little bit, So
it depends the type of winger that raises looking for.
(12:56):
Does he want a fast finisher? Does he want another
power wing to complement Caleb Clark. You've also got Les
Defying a Nuoku coming back from France and he by
all accounts is going to be available from the Rugby
Championship onwards in August, having signed for the Crusaders next year.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
He's predominantly played center for too line.
Speaker 8 (13:15):
Up in France the past two years, but has played
wing as well for the Crusaders, so a lot of
options there does It's going to be interesting to see
which way they go.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Liam. You touched on the possibility of a Crusader's bias
with Scott Robertson. I don't know how much truth there
is to that. If there is, I understand because plainly
he's coast heap to these guys, so he knows what
he can get out of him. But do you think
there's any traction in that suspicion that he is tending
(13:45):
toward red and black? Is it a fair accusation.
Speaker 8 (13:48):
I don't know if it's fear does, but it's certainly
a perception that's out there, and I think not just
among fans and punters, I think among certain players if
they're not picked and there's a Crusader favored Chaffee Hackey
was a real standout because there were wingers out there
performing much better than him at the time, and New
(14:08):
Zealand's never short of outside backs, so that was one
selection that really turned heads. While he didn't play for
the All Blacks, even been called into the squad ahead
of a number of others, I know put a few
noses out of joint, but it's raised his team. He
can select who he wants and look this year, Shafey
Harkey has played out of his skin at times, played
very well for the Crusaders. So his talent has clearly
(14:30):
been identified not just by Razor.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
But others in that coaching group as well.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
They brought him in and he's come back to the
Crusaders this year and really performed and justify that selection
to a degree. So all black, all coaches live and
die by their selections, don't they. And you're right that
they perhaps there's an inherent bias to players they know
and know their strengths, know their talents that they've worked
with before.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
But I don't know if you.
Speaker 8 (14:57):
Could say out and out there is a Crusader's bias,
but that perception is definitely out there in the rugby community.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Happened with Scott Barrett and I remember simply saying Scott Barrett,
he knows exactly what he does, and Scott Robinson knows
exactly what he does. Of course he's gonna pick him.
It's an absolute no brainer. It folded a bit in
the last couple of weeks, but check out Scooter over
the weekend. I think everything is a okay. And on
Matt Liam, thanks very much as always for your time
(15:25):
in Intel.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
Does forget the riffs call.
Speaker 9 (15:28):
You make a call on.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Sports talk on your home of sport.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
His talks, Hello, this is interesting. Did that come from.
There's a bug in the machine. It's probably my bug.
Quite frankly, I'd say, definitely my bug.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
So be it.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Anyway, where were we twenty two minutes after seven? He
kind of saw it coming. It was gonna thrown around
the traps. And now it's done and he's going to go.
That's it. He's going to go and play in Japan.
We believe we know where he's going, but the nature
(16:13):
of Japanese rugby is pointed out there by Limb there
pretty much to say anything unless it's some one hundred
percent official, but it looks like it's toy out of
a blitz trying to get a hold of Sir Steve
Hanson to get him on the phone, and it's text.
He goes toe, you know, no comment right now, ring,
which is understandable official. But now he's gone. Now he's
(16:34):
going to go. That comes back to that very basic question.
We've had this question before and it's been answered in
a couple of different ways by a couple of different
all black coaches. And we finished off or halfway through
that interview, Liam was talking about we possibly have seen
Mark tellout players very last game in the Black jersey
(16:55):
seems a bit rough, but he is going away. So
in your opinion, this is you. If you want, you
can try and predict what the All Black coaching staff
and selects and stuff may have made do. That's fine
if it was up to you, Does Mark tell our
carry on playing for the All Blacks? And you've got
(17:15):
to take into account a few considerations here the depth
of talent on the wing. Is there enough talent out there,
either already in existence in the All Black frame or
poking their nose through the swamp and super Rugby that
(17:37):
might get that opportunity. There's a couple of players out
there who might get that late caller, So is there
enough depth? It's the first thing you've got to think about.
And how important is this year for Scott Robinson as
far as winning every game. That's unlikely he'll do it.
But after a start, it was a shaky enough old start.
(17:58):
Now they're hitting the ground running, will they get some
flames at their feet? Because these things are part of
the decision making process that Robinson has to make. So
you tell me what you do. You pretty much need
to win everything. Yeah, you're establishing positions and you're getting
a chance for young people to come through. But with
(18:20):
a class of taut lea, do you keep him in
or do you go?
Speaker 9 (18:24):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Makee you're turning your back on the black jersey. We
don't care if you go seeal out of pal Oh
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. I don't think they'll pick
him again. Like I would like to see him play again,
because he's a fantastic player to watch play the game
of rugby. But he's made his bed. He's going to
have to line it. I don't see Robertson saying, oh,
(18:46):
you know what, we need you to help us out.
I think he backs himself enough as a coach to
select the new guns coming through. And in the case
of wingers, well they're everywhere, aren't they Your thoughts, I'd
love to hear you. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty lines.
We're open. This is News Talks. There be it's seven
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
You hear it from the biggest names and sports and men.
Have your say on eighty eighty Sports Talk on your
home of Sports News talks.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
It be.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Send uncle to nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Sports talk hearing news talks.
Speaker 10 (19:35):
Here be.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Lin's rapping one hundred and eighty ten eighty. We can
text nine two nine two. Shouldn't have put that out
he so some people have been texting, come on, give
us a ring. I'll have to hear from you all.
There's new Netflix film coming up called The Celtics. Look
at that looks like a good anyway, Enough of watching that,
asking about what happens now with Tyler? Does he get
(19:59):
an opportunity to finish an all black career? Because Scott
Robertson needs to win as many games as possible and
he's the form winger, he might disagree with that. Does
he deserve that opportunity to go out with a black
jersey on? Or has he just gone You made the call,
you make the bed, you sleep in the bed, went
(20:19):
on to see you later? Which way do you go?
Because this happens more and more. Look, we've retained some players,
and I think we should celebrate the retention of our
Moor and of Damien McKenzie. This is great. They want
to stay, but you are going to lose a fair
amount of players. And when you've got a guy like
Talau who is twenty eight year, remember twenty seven. That's
(20:42):
the all black wingers, Cliff Year. Once they get their father,
they just tend not to go any further. They fall
straight off the back of it. So he's maybe extended
as welcome by a good year. How do you make
your decision around this? What do you do? O? Eight
one hundred and eighty ten eighty I through a few
of your texts there. We don't have enough pace on
(21:07):
our wings. That's from David, So actually I don't know
how quick the relative wingers are. Are you interesting to
put a stopwatch on the man? Not necessarily pace, but
how elusive you are with that pace I think is
more just than a standard stopwatch situation. Does he move on?
(21:31):
We need to blood you guys, but we do wish
him well. And what about that young lad from more
one passifica? You want to be more specific on that one?
Mans if you can let us know, are you a
spot on bringing Shay fihky or I can't quite read
Bernie what you said there, but that's okay. There are
(21:52):
other players out there. Let's just jump to the phones
now today, Mark, how are you.
Speaker 9 (21:57):
On with you. He's made his beard. He can line.
It does use the opportunities that blood somew talent.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Are we going to are we going to mess the
infective nature? Because you know when he came back at
the end of last year and the overseas too, it
didn't really look like he's wanted and then he had
a couple of outstanding games. Did you transition time so
people can learn from hand?
Speaker 9 (22:19):
Well? Yeah, he is an exciting player to watch, but
he's he's going so as you say, if you kick
a tree ring or fall out of it, if someone
to go, it's.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
When did we last have something like that that was
in nhim? A scatterer? Wasn't it out of the NPC?
Speaker 9 (22:41):
Yeah, warmth.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
It's a shame that his body just keep breaking down
on him, But that was a case of all that
we found someone else.
Speaker 9 (22:49):
Yeah, the father you talked about from Canterbury, he's on.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Fire Schaffee hockey.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
Yes, and I thought he was quite he got he
caught my atteach last year. I thought he was quite
a good.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
John Steve guy. He's gone. They're not going to go
back there again. But you've got other players and I
suppose it's a Naway. He's now playing in the centers.
But there is an explosive, an interesting.
Speaker 9 (23:18):
Character Yepolo or is he taken by Fiji?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Nolo is available, I believe. I think maybe a junior
level he was, but I'm pretty sure it stand to
be corrected on that one.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
There's there's there's plenty of wingers, are you know the
Hurricanes have got a few to say, that's got a few.
Probably well it's been Clark and Talia at Auckland, but yeah,
they're bad.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I think so. Yeah, it's a line in the sand.
And I suppose though when you're when you're an all
Black coach, you need to draw those lines. But you
also need to be able to change your mind if required.
Because what is the idea of being the all Black
coach and selected? What's what's the primary dry behind it?
Speaker 10 (24:06):
Marke?
Speaker 9 (24:07):
What do they have to do well at the moment?
For the last few decades it's been World Cup cycles.
So raise us working towards the next World Cup. Kali
is not going to be part of it. You've got
to develop someone. You've got to develop someone.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Is that more important? Because I know there are a
lot of rugby purists out there who find that distasteful
that they're preparing for one to every four years. Is
there a theory that says maybe the All Black coach
needs depict players that are the best in their space,
that will win on the day, because it's not just
about winning a tournament. That's it's a bit of a distro,
(24:47):
isn't it the World Cup? Well?
Speaker 9 (24:50):
I am a bit of that way. Picked the best team,
and I've been critical of certain captains who are not
the best in their position in recent times.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But should it be driving to a World Cup?
Speaker 9 (25:04):
Though?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Should it be in each given year? We are the
All Blacks. We win as many games as you possibly can,
and we pick it accordingly.
Speaker 9 (25:11):
There is an element of that and the other thing
that since the World Cups we don't have the major
tours like we used to have, for like the tour
to South Africa and tours in England where you play
midweek games, and those midweek games where you gave young
fellows the opportunity you got to.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Blood them if you will. These days, when you have
an end of your tour, you're so shot because you've
been so busy all year. The other reserves in the
team just played because some of the main kinds just
fall over because.
Speaker 9 (25:38):
This Yeah, well that's the way rugby is nowadays. You know,
unless you're one hundred and ten kiloser, don't you can't
even well apart from someone like Taliah, you can't even
be a winger. Look at when I was young at
the left school, you had the Woodman brothers. Speaks to us.
They're not particularly big. You don't if you don't find
(26:00):
many of them, tell.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
You it's not that big. I mean, stand next to
me is bigger than I am, but I'm tiny. But
it's not the way.
Speaker 9 (26:10):
He's the exception for modern wingers. And he's a stepper
and he's exciting to watch because he stepped like seventy Yes,
here's another one and quite off on Seva. Reese has
been on the sideline because of Talia. So take Talia out?
What sub recent mark?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Thanks so much for your call, real pleasure. Do call again.
I eight one hundred eighty ten eighties twenty five at
minutes to eight. This is sports talk. What's the selection process?
If you're Scott Robinson, we've touched on it there. I
want to hear from you. I eight hundred eighty ten
eighty Well, I don't know what Scott Robinson gets told before.
(26:51):
We need to win every game he possibly can. And
my problem with focusing entirely on the World Cup, as
I said, it's a crap shoot. It's not necessarily a
crap shoot, but all the focus, all the attention, everything
you want, the whole world all build up. It doesn't
guarantee your World Cup. That just doesn't. You can make
like the spring Box and being absolute shambles and turn
(27:12):
up a couple of weeks of the new team for
the comp win the damn thing. I'm more interested, I
think in winning every game and going through a season
with the ninety win record. That's what the All Blacks are,
not building depth for a World Cup once every four years.
(27:33):
I don't like that. Pick the best teams at the time. Graham,
how are you good?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Very good crusader at the top of the table. So
I've got to be happy.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Last year just seems like a short nightmare, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
It does? Yeah, I mean after the Malana A Sower game,
you did, yeah, flashbacks, but but you know they got
back on track with two tough you know, CG and
Drewer and hurricanes away at a tough game. So yeah,
back in Scott Barrett, you know I did great.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, So when you've got much more of a full
quiver to sleep from. I recall last year there was
just injured guys all over the show. They just need
to go around a masking tape to help them out.
But it's changed. So where do you sit on this
is what does Razor do?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Well? It's a difficult one. I mean I won't I
sit on the fence of it because the honest I
won't be upset either way, I can. You know, Talia,
I'm not sayingous because an Auckland player, I probably move
with blues. I should say I sort of move towards
that possibly they have to look at other people, not
just solely because of the World Cup, I think because
(28:44):
of the challenges you know, later in the year, because
when they go on to it, and and and I'm
a bit like, you know, I get a bit sick
of hearing about the World Cup. So I call and
it drives out of the wall.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Actually, the spring box blew that theory out of the water.
Quiet and the shambles of a team that no coach
didn't know what was going on turned up put together
good care Pain sealed champions. It didn't take four years.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
No, no, And you look at the Whore and Wiley
and Hart when when they took over all they join
while it grows as the late grows, and how John
Hart joined with the Whore. They turned the eighty six
season around and won you know six months. Yeah, it's
a bit of a more.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
On picking the best team at the time, so the
All Blacks can go through the year going look, we've
got a ninety something percent win rate, we are the
best in the world. Is that more important through that
four year cycle than a one off two?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
You've got it. There's a bit of bus because I
think last year, you know, Raiser found out what was
like a black coach, you know, he put it over
from me and Foster with his record and well we
lost four games, and then other people a coach like
Scott Robinson. I mean it's there's no disaster, but you
know it's a tough gig International rugby now, well it
(30:05):
always has been, but I think there's more better teams around.
But yeah, what what's the I mean, we've got Kenny
Nahlo and sha Cy Harky planning playing the house down
and Cha's been a revelation this year and the whole
and you've got the Otago the Highlanders boys.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
So you know, Tom was outrageous. It's money these days,
he doesn't seem to be kind of popping up that
much was there and thereabouts he might be, you know,
getting into st What about moving Rica Yuanni back out
to the wing again.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Well, a few of us would like to see that happen.
There's probably probably if you had a vote on it,
would I think it'd be eighty percent. And Rugby fans, yeah,
well I never liked him at center. I mean he
was a great, very good winger. But yeah, I mean
that that would that opens up as a possibility. But
they got the depths to come. I mean, Talaia is
(30:57):
a big loss, you know, like Sevu, there's something about
he's a different type of player Sevu. But but but
they both play in the house down and yeah, so
yeah it is a shame. But yeah, that's just the
way it is. And I've got deeps, as I say,
wings one of there, but like half back and howkers
at the moment they're everywhere.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
We've got piles and Lucy's too. There will be there
will be some areas where we're weak. I'm sure Grahame
be listening out for the rest of the week because
at some stage young and to a team to we
check with Ethan.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Black air good?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, you got any questions? Jointed to ask her mate,
I'm was on us.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
You Well, I see him, I go to you know,
I do see him, but weeks but I will, I will, Yeah,
I'll think of.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Something, right, you'll think of something. You'll think of something,
all right, go on your grand Thanks very much for
your call. Ads always Chris with you shortly. It's nineteen
minutes to eight. It's a sports look on news talk.
Do you pick talor you for the All Black season
or do you go now? Actually we're going to build
for the World Cup. Picked up best player at the time, right,
(32:06):
sod the World Cup? The story dress me nuts. It's
not a guarantee of success if you build for the future.
When now pick the best player? Your thoughts please? Oh
eight hundred eighty ten eighty am I here a couple
of mighty blues? What hena who won Opiki over the weekend?
(32:29):
Having a yarned to the assorted media and it's all
to come. You're on newstalks eb Flowers and news Dog's
EBS Sports Talk come to Darcy Water, Great Wire. Hello,
(32:50):
there finds robinho one hundred eighty ten eighty eight more
and more. My clarion call is going to be up
the World Cup. I'm over it. I just want to
keep winning games of rugby in the regular time. Hey,
we'll win a World Cup every now and then, but really,
let's just keep winning. Pick the best players while they're here.
And no, muz, I'm not going to give it a
(33:13):
crack because I did play wing but I'll give you
a tip. I played wing back when wingers used to
throw the ball into the line out. I think that
says everything, doesn't it, Chris?
Speaker 5 (33:25):
It does coming from a grade three, grade seventeen player. Myself, Well,
I've been thinking about this for me. Is what you
do is you pick the best player for that game
(33:46):
if they're informed. But when it comes to wingers, they
have a shorter life in terms of midfield. Like you
just look at David Haavelli for the Crusaders. He's always
in the all black mix because he's solid. But you
burn through wingers quicker.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Well, unless the wing is quite smart decides to move
to the Midfield aka ton of Umong and a number
of others that have gone I'm too slow out here.
Now I'm getting found out. I'll bet he go further in.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Yeah, and that's what they do. I think the silliest
thing that we've seen in the All Blacks was Ione
going from the wing into the centers because he just
doesn't have the punch like Smith used to.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I disagree. I didn't think Smith had punch. I think
Smith was just an extraordinarily intelligent player and he knew
exactly what he had to do at the time. He
let Maru punch.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
I used to put the punch on, but he used
to get through the gap because they worked really well.
And I'm sort of from that old school feeling that
you always put the same twelve and thirteen from the
best province of the year during the NPC and figures
(35:08):
to groapy just I'm going back, guys.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
So you're five hours combinations, So tell me what you
do with Mark Tallia, Mark Tahala.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
You let him go, then go, because well, Caleb Clark
and he is our generational Lomo, not not Lomoo's style,
but he plays that.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Well less than Nukul was on his way back again.
I mean, he's been playing center over in France, but
he's a monster on the wing. I think, Chris, we
have options, and I'm with you. I don't go as
far as picking centers from the NPC, but I love
the way you're thinking. Thanks for your cool mate, No.
One hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 11 (35:52):
Hi, Paul, how are you mate?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I'm not so bad. I believe you're a big fan
of maccas spring of the Winger.
Speaker 11 (36:01):
Spring of the Winger, mate. I tell you what. I
don't know why the Crusaders, but Quikey he is good.
He has got really good a winners on the wing.
He doesn't creep in, he stays outside. He's got a
good understanding of where he plays, and I reckon he's
the next All black one.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Do you think he's got the inherent pace that's needed
or even the bolt that pot sometimes needed out? Is
he's strong enough? I mean you're having a I suppose
I'll go back to what I was talking about with
Comrade Smith before. You wouldn't say he's big, strong, fast,
that man. He's smart and you're leaning on that, aren't you, Paul?
Speaker 11 (36:38):
Yeah, one hundred percent understanding the game he does, and
he's sort of what I saw him do. It's like, wow,
you're not a big frame, but cheese, you understand where
you need to be.
Speaker 9 (36:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (36:54):
I don't think you go too far this with him,
but he is a crusader. Let's face it.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Well, here we get packed and then everybody will lean
into Scott Robertson saying would you stop picking crusaders and
start picking people from somewhere else? And of course he's
got no offense against that, he can say, but he's
the best player. It's not my fault. He's reading black.
It's good still, you know.
Speaker 11 (37:19):
Yeah, I think he's on a fine rope, to be honest,
because let's face it, he is a very smart coach,
but he's listening to too many other people. He's just
got to get back to his craft and pick the
players that he believes. And I'm sick of players out
of position with the other guy that's called up building
for World Cups. Well, I and Foster gets with building
(37:42):
for World Cups, but never blooded anyone. We've got to
get back to the basics of rugby. That's my view.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Win games of rugby. Paul, I love your work, Thanks
very much. For your Coincidentally, I've had a text and say,
if Race is being reviewed after two years, he probably
wants to lose the biases toward the Crusaders. Otherwise, should
we start a discussion on his replacement? Come on, Craig
and there's a lot of people in there. There's their
clibming into that, going well, if Mark had a different
(38:08):
colored jersey on it to be a different story. I
don't buy into that. I really don't. It's simple enough
to say because that's where he came from and that's
where we had many, many, many championships. It's not like
he's picked the Canterbury or the Crusaders, right. A couple
(38:28):
of other players around there somewhere coming up next to
there's some words from some super rugby O picky champions
cut in Vaha call there's one and Brex and Sarrens
and McGee is the other. What a game that was?
That's coming up next here on sports they've got news
(38:49):
talks there, but it's night away from a six months
away from my eight months last sharp heart to the
news with the package quick listen on and to a
(39:11):
couple of champion my honey fom the Blues who beat
Matta Too in a very engaging game at Eden Park
on a Saturday night. They did it. The media caught
up with a couple on this afternoon and here's Caitlin
call Or talking about the postmatch celebrations.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
My teammates definitely gave it there all after the final. Yeah,
it was a couple of days, a little bit of
a bender, but yeah, they're back into it and they're
looking sharp on the field. So I was just more
the super driver, right, I'm not even drive, just so
I think it's so important to celebrate things and just
let ourselves actually enjoy what's happened, so you'll wed hips
of f on them. I really enjoyed myself.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
And yeah, huge patients to sit around and talk to
people of drinking to celebrate. They can get very dull,
very fast. They're playing the war Tars on Thursday night
trans TASM Women's Championship match. If you will, it's what
Caitlin knows about them.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
I think up for the challenge, me personally because we
had a preseason against them and we drew. I am
out personally, out for revenge. I don't know how mud
makes a feelings, but we know that we have to
focus and we've got to do what we do normally.
We think that they bring a different game to Matter
two a little bit, and so it's going to be
cool to try out some of our moves and see
how our ship goes against the Australian teams. They obviously
(40:26):
wearing some good skill set, but I think we've got
what it tastes to, you know, be champions of champions.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I love the way these athletes just right out with it.
You we want revenge. There's no messing around, there's no
being polite and kind. It's like, you know, we're gonna
smash them, bro. And here is curtain of our call
or talking about Braxton Sorenson McGhee, I learned from her.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
She is so she's so school, but she's also really mature.
She is like I feel like I've been playing with
her for ages when we're in our team huddles. She's
only eighteen, but she's not afraid to actually say something
or tell the Fords or tell the girls that are
older than her like what they should be doing. And
I really respect that about it, and I really hope
that she makes the bag fans because she's so awesome
I've like, obviously I can encourage as much as someone,
(41:09):
but I'm also learning from you, so she's really awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yeah, and the player that Kat is talking about, Braxton,
quite extraordinary, wonderful intercept past that pretty much sealed the
game two points between the game nineteen twenty one inter
set past. It was something magic, so brexcellent? What were
you thinking when you know?
Speaker 10 (41:27):
The only think my mind was just to run, don't stop.
And then obviously when the Master two player got their
hands on me, I like, look to see if there's
someone there, but there wasn't, so I just had to
keep running. So yeah, I just don't get caught, keep running.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
And how many times Bres And if you watched the
replay of that try because it was something else.
Speaker 10 (41:47):
I've actually watched it a lot, but I've seen other
people watching it, which is really good. But yeah, I've
watched a lot because I've obviously on my Instagram, so
I just keep watching it.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
It's pretty cool though, It's very cool. And how did
you celebrate?
Speaker 10 (42:01):
Oh, it was really good. It was good to be
with the girls. We obviously stay together as a team.
We went out as a team, and obviously they'd be
drinking as a team. But yeah, I wasn't drinking obvious
excited drink. But it was funny fushing water girls.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Drink funny is one word. I'd say dull, but that's okay. Hey,
congratulations to the Blues like a mutter too fan one
of the women. That was a crazy old game and
thanks for producing. I'm Darcy Watergrave Gone Gone.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
For more from sports Talk, listen live to News Talks.
It'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Therapy Gecko
An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.