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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Of golf viewing for us here as Ryan Fox displayed
patients and grits and belief and plenty of golfing skill
to win his second PGA Tour event in less than
a month. He held his nerve and pipped Sam Burns
on the fourth playoff hole at the Canadian Open in Toronto.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Factor three wood all over it.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Wow, Now we're talking. What a beautiful shik. Two potts
for a second PGA Tour win and he'll take them.
The fantastic mister Fox is the King of Carnada.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
It is the first time a kiwi has won two
events in a single season on the PGA Tour since
Sir Charles won the Houston Classic and the Open Championship
all the way back in nineteen sixty three. Let's bring
in Ryan Fox's coach, Marcus Wheelhouse. Marcus, thanks for joining
us this morning. Were you this evening rather? Were you
more nervous this morning watching the closing stages of the
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Canadian Open or were you more nervous watching Myrtle Beach
a month ago?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I think Myrtle Beach to be honest, but yeah, no,
I look both of them pretty yeah, just like hopeful
and all those things. But yeah, a little bit nervous.
I've got absolutely, but like a great, great day.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Can I ask about the seventeen foot Birdie put on
his second seventy second hole of the tournament, the eighteenth
hole of his fourth round. It took him to eighteen
under and a share of the lead, forcing the playoff.
Can you talk us through Marc A Shaw view and
assessment of that part.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Look, I mean he'd been I just talked to him
like he'd been like what I was proud of him.
Was an incredibly patient all day. And I think that's,
you know, something that maybe wouldn't have happened even even
a month ago. But in that space of those thirteen
or fourteen holes in the early parts around, you know,
he did he just showed that real nice resolve and
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and and just didn't you know, his attitude was good.
He didn't get didn't get down on himself, et cetera.
So I wasn't surprised that he hold that. I thought
that he was probably juey good. You know, he had
a good chance on seventeen too, didn't he So Yeah, no, look,
I think it was. It was a perfect paced up
that showed his showed his nerve wasn't too bad and
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ended like obviously it was, and it was Yeah, you
just that's what you want, right, You want to put
to get a playoff or win a golf tournament, and
he and he done it, So I think you can
take a huge amount of confidence out of that.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Just before we talk about the playoffs, you mentioned patience
there and and I wonder how much has winning his
first easy to event at Myrtle Beach changed Ryan's mindset?
Is patients the main thing you see, Well, I.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Think the biggest thing about any player is that you
that you want to be out on a tour and
you want to be playing with not a lot of
pressure in yourself, and you want to feel like you've
belonged there. And I think that's what you know, we
certainly sort of talked about that, you know a month
aside a girl when I was up there. It is
just you know, just being comfortable out on the US
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tour and what does that mean and what does that
look like and all those things around you know that
and being a winner. I think you sort of do
walk around and understand that you belong there and that's
you know, so that's a big part of you know,
a golfer, and I think any sports person, you know,
the confidence that you have, the feeling of belonging and
all those things that good things that come with winning,
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which is you know, you know, a job for a
couple of years, which he's got now. So yeah, he
really didn't put a lot of pressure on himself, Yester
today and because he knew, you know, he was already
on the right. So I think that was a big
part of today. It was just he sort of went
out there and just played and if he won, he won.
If he didn't, you know, still wake up the next
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morning and so got out of his kids. You know
that that that's the sort of attitude he had today,
which was which was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, that's terrificant insight. He did need four playoff holes
this time. What were you What were your feeling as
you saw them make power what three times each on
the first three playoff holes? What they moved the pen
didn't they know? How are you feeling during the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah, I've never seen the move a pinon. Look, I think, well,
I was just talking to a friend of mine just now.
And you know the second when he hit the three
wood and he sort of puffed it up under the breeze.
I was pretty nervous there. I thought that that wasn't
an em well but but did he got lucky and
that's what's you know what winning golf. Sort of some
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sign takes. But yeah, I was surprised that Sambourne missed
that first part and which was a recently short berty putt.
But you know, you get a sniff and you know, Fox,
he's had a couple of sort of pluffs go not
go his way in in the DF Tour back in
the day and and and from now. To have two
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p g a too playoff wins is as great he's
getting as he's getting someone or someone's on the side
of they fantastic.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, that shot that you talk about, the three what
off the off the fairway leaving basically leaving him but
a makeable putt for Eagle. Really, I know he didn't
need it, but I think he's called it the best
shot of his life and it came at a pretty
good time. You weren't sure about the club selection, the
shot choice.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I was. I was actually talking about the first three
when he hit when he puffed it up, got the
second old, yeah, got. I mean that that last one
he hit was as pure as the driven snow. I
mean that was like a career shot. I think he'll
he'll be able to shirt in his memory and and
and and draw on that many times in his in
his career. And so yeah, that last that last shot
he hit into that, into that into that ap was. Yeah,
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that was pures per as you'll get.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
When he had two parts to win it after sam Burn,
so he kind of had to chase the eagle, didn't
He put it a bit far past and then there
are two parts coming back. So Ryan had two parts
to win it. Did you know that he was going
to use them both? Was that always what he would
have been thinking?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Mate?
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I was just I was just happy when he was
when he had the trophy in the sands.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Oh, there's wonderful, wonderful at the fourth round itself. I
mean he shot five under on the front nine in
his third round. Would he have been disappointed in any
way to make the turn today? It just one under
through that that front nine.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Well, I think you know, like like I said before,
you know he did struggle a little bit at things,
and I haven't you know, he was I dodn't want
to sort of spoiler moment, but yeah, we'll probably talk
about it in some other stages. But he certainly didn't,
you know, play his best golf on that front nine.
But like I said before, that's that I was really
proud that he just stuck in and he and it
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was patient enough and kept his kept his bottle and
and you just still didn't he knew he wasn't out
of the golf tournament even though he wasn't playing his
best and and that's what golf is, you know, You've
got to ride those bad times and and and make
them or make the damage as little as possible. And
that's what he did. And then when things did start
to clicking, and you know, he had a couple of
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great shots down the stretch, you know, he found himself
obviously with a chance, which which is what happened. So
where you know, I think probably maybe a player of
yester year might have, you know, he would have got
a little bit frustrated with the fact that he wasn't
making goodies and everybody is, you know, because the score
was pretty hot and and might have had a different
sort of outlook to that, and and and therefore when
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you do have that, you know you haven't quite got
the game and check and then you do make a
couple of aggressive decisions, and you can make a couple
of silly bogies. He had a great save on nine,
which I think was really pivotical to make car from
where he was. And and then yeah, and then then
you know, those bodies on the back nine just obviously
got him to got him to within a chance, and
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then and then the rest is history.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, there's that patience again. So the one season qualified
for the US Open, third major of the season after Oakmont.
Now for that, what is it twenty years exactly since
Michael Campbell won the US Open? What chance Ryan emulates
them two decades later?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Well, mate, i'd sell what you know. I was up
there a couple of weeks ago, as you know, three weeks,
four weeks ago now, and then again last week. So
you know, who knows, mate, it's when you're when you've
got a player, you know, riding a wave. But you know,
all we can do look is just gone. You find
the golf, all hit it and find it again and
I think that, you know, for him to have the month,
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he's had a phenomenal to won twice on the PGA tour,
as you say, noybe, he's done that since the Great Squab.
So yeah, look it's funnel. I mean, well, you know,
God's speech him this week at the Open looks at
really brutal test. But who knows.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Man.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I just wish more best obviously, and and we'll see
what happens.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And your recent visit up there, Marcus, you saw him
type for sixtieth at an event in Texas. Since then
he won Myrtle Beach, tied twenty eighth to the PGA Championship,
then twentieth and another win today. Sounds like the trip
was well worth it. May you've got to take your
fair share of credit too.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah, and I went up. I went I was up
at Mirryfield as well, so it looks like I'll be
going back up there next week. So we're I'm back.
We're back full time now, so there's no I'm not
the part timer as they say. I'm back in full time.
So I'm happy to be involved more and more. So
it's going to be my passport's going to get a
little bit of a hammering, but that's a that's a
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good problem to have.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
That is a great problem to have. Well, congratulations on
your obvious part in this, Marcus. Thanks for giving us
some analysis this evening where everyone's just delighted obviously for Ryan.
He just is such an easy, easy sportsperson to like
and it's wonderful to watch him succeed. Thanks for taking
the time for a chat tonight.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Thanks Monning Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Thank you mate. That's Marcus Wheelhouse. There you go, full
time coach now of Ryan Fox. So up to the
US Open they go? Yeah too, two thousand and five
at Pinehurst, number two, Michael Campbell winning the US Open.
Twenty years later. As there's some serendipity here, Ryan Fox Man,
how good's he going? It's funny, isn't it. You know
it took him all that time to win one, and
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then another one came along almost immediately. London buses you
wait ages for one and then to turn up at once.
Long may it continue for Ryan Fox. And as I
just said that to Marcus Wheelhouse, he is such an
easy sportsperson to want the best for because he is
just so likable. He's so I said this to Heather
earlier on. I think we see in Ryan Fox many
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of the qualities that we want to think we display
as Kiwi's humility, very down to worth, doesn't get too
worked up about anything, really gets on with a wide
variety of people. Always speaks, you know, with a gentle tone,
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but with a firm focus as well. There's so much
about Ryan Fox to like and so to see him
succeed like this, and it hasn't been a straight line.
Let's all remember this. You know, he's now he could
now play the FedEx Cup at the end of the year.
You know, I'm sure his aim at the start of
the year was just to keep his tour card. We's
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got the freedom of that now having won these two tournaments,
and let's just hope it continues to go up and
up from here, because as I said, it hasn't been
a straight line for Ryan Fox. He's had peaks and troughs,
as a lot of sports people do. A big peak
for him this morning in Toronto.
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