June 10, 2025 • 7 mins
It's a behind-the-scenes code switch!
Daryl Gibson is best known as a former All Black, but he's just landed a new job as chief high performance officer at New Zealand Cricket.
He spoke to D'Arcy Waldegrave on Sportstalk about what he wants to bring to the role.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Wildergrave
from News Talk zed B.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
High performance coach for and you selling cricket was announced
the day. His name is Darryl Gibson and he joins
us now, Dussy. Good evening, Daryl. It's been a while mate,
how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yes, Dsy, it's been a long long period between drinks.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I didn't think I'd be talking about cricket with you
next time I spoke to you, but I am. You've
got yourself a new role. You are looking after high
performance for cricket in ZED. That's after a roller to
high performance sport in ZED. So first question most people
are asking, what do you know about cricket, Darryl Gibson.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I'll tell you what, Darcy. I'm going to be a
quick learner, That's what I'm going to be. Obviously, like
many New Zealanders growing up on a diet of rugby
and cricket, you know, consumed that during the late eighties
early nineties when it was on free to hear, and yeah,
really just looking forward to joining what I see as
a very progressive, agile New Zealand cricket organization.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So you're taking over from Brian stron A huge amount
of respect in the cricketing community for what Stroney as
they call him, offered. So what are you doing to
compliment that to move it on? Do you consider what
he left behind? Is it a fresh start for you?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
No, absolutely, I think it's on the shoulder of giants,
incredible legacy left by both Gary Stronnie, all the players,
administrational people that have built this legacy of sustain New
Zealand success. You know, we are consistently a top four
cricketing nation.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
You know. I think part of the challenge for myself
and Robber.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Is the new incoming head coach and HBD is you know,
how do we improve upon that? And then also what's
the performance edge that's missing that will help us begin
to really win trophies.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I want to ask what that is is, because then
had time to talk to Rob Walter about that. I'm
sure you get there, you know, Rob, though you don't
want to reinvent the way when you get in that
it's a matter of feet under the disk and just
roll from there.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Absolutely, you know, it's have a look, you know, get
in there is guaranteed to be stuff that we do
better than any other nation in the world, and it's
making sure that a we recognize and identify what those
things are, make sure they remain a strength, but then
also systematically go about looking for the provements the gaps
(02:36):
that we can make in performance both and you know,
obviously the black caps and the white ferns. One thing
I'm really passionate about, Darcy, and I'm really grateful for
my time and at the high performance sport is important
as the pathways and that identification of talent and how
we bring that talent through.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
So I see some real opportunities to add.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Some value there and I'm really looking forward to getting
stuck in when I start.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
In mid July.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Primarily, Darryl, what does your role encompass if you can
summarize it in the paragraphs, what would it be? Are
you supposed to laugh? Mate? You come on if you
did that in there? Do you just see you on
your back side? What do you have to do?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Take everyone in New Zealand you look at your job
description and then you look at what you actually do.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
And you think, well, that's nothing closely resembling that.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
But no, I obviously in charge of all our performance
side of New Zealand cricket. So we'll see the performances
of Black Caps and White Ferns, all our age group
and New zeal And A teams. You know, any team
in black really that's playing under the banner of New
Zealand cricket.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
That's one side, does you know that performance side?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I think that the real opportunity for me is how
do we systematize and make sure that as a sport
we're sustainable and years to come. You know we've got
a small talent pool here.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
In New Zealand. We've done that for a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
How do we make sure we're maximizing that talent and
bringing it through so New Zealand remains strong every year.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
How do you know if you if it's working or not?
Do you obviously they talk about key performance indicators, but
do you look across here. It's not a contract, you're
an employee now, but look across that note. What what
do you have to hurt? What do you mark so
you know this is actually working? And how long do
you think you've got on the role before you can
say yeah, this is actually going somewhere.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I think you know, I performance sport often decisions are
made and then it takes a while system wise, you know,
for those things to eventuate. We've seen plenty of cases
of administration and people making decisions that have impacted the
performance of the team in.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Years to come. You know, I has it a guess, Darcy.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Last time I spoke to you, I was in charge
of a warritas in Australia, you know, and there's one
sport that is still coming to terms with decisions that
were made decades ago.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
So we're really.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Conscious of the work and the decisions and system found
national pieces that they don't disrupt or don't dismantle more like.
But in heart so we are a strong cricket nature
nation from years to come.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So need to carry on the success and how nimble
New Zealand cricket has been dealing with things like the
T twenty leagues and the changing of the landscape. So
you need to keep that current. But you need to
know that in the future, whatever you've set up, I mean,
it's going to carry on carrying on. So but sooth say,
you're kind of looking into the future hoping that what
you've learned through your time high performance sport end z
(05:37):
And you know, coaching at a top level, playing rugby
to the top level that will be able to implement
some of these changes that will bring success.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Absolutely, you've hit it on the head and it is
navigating the complexity which is the changing world of high
performance sport. You know, crystal ball. You would never have
thought ipl leagues popping up around the world, and the
enormous amounts of money that the players make by participating,
the fact that New Zealand Cricket have brought a franchise
into the American it just shows you just how fast
(06:10):
things can move, and then how agile you need to
be to be able to adapt quickly to make sure
that your sport remains relevant and that you have enough
investment to invest back into the grassroots of the game
to make sure it's strong. So certainly, you know, I'm
looking forward to getting stuck into that, Darcy. It's my
(06:31):
impressions of News on Cricket is an agile, progressive organization
that wants to position itself such that the sport of
Era and New Zealand thrives.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
I think that's important.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
In the interview, they would have asked you not that
I'm privy of this kind of information Dale Gibson, Why
you what can you bring? So stand up and tell
us now, pretending you're interviewing, what makes Darryl Gibson speaking
that other person the ideal man to head high Performance
and Cricket n Z. Why are you?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Well?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I think I'm going to add value Darcy in a
number of ways, probably the time like an interview does that.
I've got a real genuine empathy for coaching. Having spent
fourteen odd years playing at Trade.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I get it. I get what.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
It's like to be a coach, and I also understand
intimately the support that you know, the high performance person
that you report to can give you.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
So I'm going to comm at up with that, Liz.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I don't want to be coach centric in the fact
that you know, I'm going to be all in Rob
and Ben Sawyer's business in terms of.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Their roles with the black Caps and White Friends, but
certainly close enough to them to really add some venue
For
Speaker 1 (07:45):
More from sports talk, listen live to News Talks the'd
be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Wildergrave
from News Talk zed B.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
High performance coach for and you selling cricket was announced
the day. His name is Darryl Gibson and he joins
us now, Dussy. Good evening, Daryl. It's been a while mate,
how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yes, Dsy, it's been a long long period between drinks.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I didn't think I'd be talking about cricket with you
next time I spoke to you, but I am. You've
got yourself a new role. You are looking after high
performance for cricket in ZED. That's after a roller to
high performance sport in ZED. So first question most people
are asking, what do you know about cricket, Darryl Gibson.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I'll tell you what, Darcy. I'm going to be a
quick learner, That's what I'm going to be. Obviously, like
many New Zealanders growing up on a diet of rugby
and cricket, you know, consumed that during the late eighties
early nineties when it was on free to hear, and yeah,
really just looking forward to joining what I see as
a very progressive, agile New Zealand cricket organization.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So you're taking over from Brian stron A huge amount
of respect in the cricketing community for what Stroney as
they call him, offered. So what are you doing to
compliment that to move it on? Do you consider what
he left behind? Is it a fresh start for you?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
No, absolutely, I think it's on the shoulder of giants,
incredible legacy left by both Gary Stronnie, all the players,
administrational people that have built this legacy of sustain New
Zealand success. You know, we are consistently a top four
cricketing nation.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
You know. I think part of the challenge for myself
and Robber.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Is the new incoming head coach and HBD is you know,
how do we improve upon that? And then also what's
the performance edge that's missing that will help us begin
to really win trophies.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I want to ask what that is is, because then
had time to talk to Rob Walter about that. I'm
sure you get there, you know, Rob, though you don't
want to reinvent the way when you get in that
it's a matter of feet under the disk and just
roll from there.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Absolutely, you know, it's have a look, you know, get
in there is guaranteed to be stuff that we do
better than any other nation in the world, and it's
making sure that a we recognize and identify what those
things are, make sure they remain a strength, but then
also systematically go about looking for the provements the gaps
(02:36):
that we can make in performance both and you know,
obviously the black caps and the white ferns. One thing
I'm really passionate about, Darcy, and I'm really grateful for
my time and at the high performance sport is important
as the pathways and that identification of talent and how
we bring that talent through.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
So I see some real opportunities to add.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Some value there and I'm really looking forward to getting
stuck in when I start.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
In mid July.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Primarily, Darryl, what does your role encompass if you can
summarize it in the paragraphs, what would it be? Are
you supposed to laugh? Mate? You come on if you
did that in there? Do you just see you on
your back side? What do you have to do?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Take everyone in New Zealand you look at your job
description and then you look at what you actually do.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
And you think, well, that's nothing closely resembling that.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
But no, I obviously in charge of all our performance
side of New Zealand cricket. So we'll see the performances
of Black Caps and White Ferns, all our age group
and New zeal And A teams. You know, any team
in black really that's playing under the banner of New
Zealand cricket.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
That's one side, does you know that performance side?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I think that the real opportunity for me is how
do we systematize and make sure that as a sport
we're sustainable and years to come. You know we've got
a small talent pool here.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
In New Zealand. We've done that for a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
How do we make sure we're maximizing that talent and
bringing it through so New Zealand remains strong every year.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
How do you know if you if it's working or not?
Do you obviously they talk about key performance indicators, but
do you look across here. It's not a contract, you're
an employee now, but look across that note. What what
do you have to hurt? What do you mark so
you know this is actually working? And how long do
you think you've got on the role before you can
say yeah, this is actually going somewhere.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I think you know, I performance sport often decisions are
made and then it takes a while system wise, you know,
for those things to eventuate. We've seen plenty of cases
of administration and people making decisions that have impacted the
performance of the team in.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Years to come. You know, I has it a guess, Darcy.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Last time I spoke to you, I was in charge
of a warritas in Australia, you know, and there's one
sport that is still coming to terms with decisions that
were made decades ago.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
So we're really.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Conscious of the work and the decisions and system found
national pieces that they don't disrupt or don't dismantle more like.
But in heart so we are a strong cricket nature
nation from years to come.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So need to carry on the success and how nimble
New Zealand cricket has been dealing with things like the
T twenty leagues and the changing of the landscape. So
you need to keep that current. But you need to
know that in the future, whatever you've set up, I mean,
it's going to carry on carrying on. So but sooth say,
you're kind of looking into the future hoping that what
you've learned through your time high performance sport end z
(05:37):
And you know, coaching at a top level, playing rugby
to the top level that will be able to implement
some of these changes that will bring success.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Absolutely, you've hit it on the head and it is
navigating the complexity which is the changing world of high
performance sport. You know, crystal ball. You would never have
thought ipl leagues popping up around the world, and the
enormous amounts of money that the players make by participating,
the fact that New Zealand Cricket have brought a franchise
into the American it just shows you just how fast
(06:10):
things can move, and then how agile you need to
be to be able to adapt quickly to make sure
that your sport remains relevant and that you have enough
investment to invest back into the grassroots of the game
to make sure it's strong. So certainly, you know, I'm
looking forward to getting stuck into that, Darcy. It's my
(06:31):
impressions of News on Cricket is an agile, progressive organization
that wants to position itself such that the sport of
Era and New Zealand thrives.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
I think that's important.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
In the interview, they would have asked you not that
I'm privy of this kind of information Dale Gibson, Why
you what can you bring? So stand up and tell
us now, pretending you're interviewing, what makes Darryl Gibson speaking
that other person the ideal man to head high Performance
and Cricket n Z. Why are you?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Well?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I think I'm going to add value Darcy in a
number of ways, probably the time like an interview does that.
I've got a real genuine empathy for coaching. Having spent
fourteen odd years playing at Trade.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I get it. I get what.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
It's like to be a coach, and I also understand
intimately the support that you know, the high performance person
that you report to can give you.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
So I'm going to comm at up with that, Liz.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I don't want to be coach centric in the fact
that you know, I'm going to be all in Rob
and Ben Sawyer's business in terms of.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Their roles with the black Caps and White Friends, but
certainly close enough to them to really add some venue
For
Speaker 1 (07:45):
More from sports talk, listen live to News Talks the'd
be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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