September 8, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason Pine returns to recap a full day in the world of sport! Highlights for tonight include:
Warriors CEO Cameron George on the NRL scheduling controversy.
All Whites midfielder Ryan Thomas on his return to the team.
Piney's power rankings!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello there, Cilic, good evening and welcome into Monday night
sports Talk on News Talks EDB. September eighth, Happy seventy
third birthday. The sixty one game twenty one test former
All Blacks captain Graham Murray. He won fifty five of
those sixty one games for the All Blacks. Coincidentally, I'm
Jason Pine Show produced by Andy McDonald. We're going to
talk sport with you until eight o'clock. The NRL do
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not care about New Zealand sports fans. That's been made
pretty obvious by the scheduling of the Warriors knockout finals
match against Penrith for Saturday at six pm. That means
the second half will start at around about the same
time the All Blacks kick off against the spring Box
at Sky Stadium. The Warriors report addly petitioned the NRL
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to avoid this very thing from happening, and now this
very thing has happened. Warrior's CEO Cam George, standing by
the chat with I said, don't keep for your views.
Was it at all unreasonable for the NRL to find
a way to avoid this clash?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Could they if they wanted to? Of course they could have.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
And now that it is locked in for six o'clock
Warriors seven o'clock All Blacks, how will you handle your
Saturday night sports viewing? Also tonight, the All Whites are
in Auckland for Tomorrow night's second match in the Soccer
Ashes series against Australia. They were very good in game
one on Friday night before falling one nil in Canberra.
Ryan Thomas made his return to international football after six
(01:46):
years away. He's on the show tonight as well. And
the Springboks have just named their team for Saturday night's
second Test against the All Blacks and Wellington after waiting
until Thursday last week. Rassie Erasmus has reverted back to
his tradition of revealing or unveiling his team very early
in the week. We'll have a look at that as well.
But I can tell you I think we've done the
(02:07):
maths right here. Of the twenty three who played the
other night, eleven changes to that twenty three, eleven new faces,
seven and the starting fifteen and four on the bench.
So he has absolutely rung the changes. Rassi Erasmus in
the wake of that loss at Eden Park the other night,
and on Monday nights we rate the weekend. Of course,
(02:28):
Piney's Power rankings. Before we close the show at eight,
please join the conversation if you'd like to, oh eight
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Speaker 1 (02:43):
You no need for the TMO, We've got the breakdown
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Talk sabb So.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
The NRL's playoff schedule has raised a number of questions
about disregard or plain ignorance of New Zealand sports fans.
The Warriors we'll host the Panthers on Saturday night at six.
The All Blacks second Test against the Spring Box off
at seven. Elsewhere, the Storm will play the Bulldogs on
Friday night. The Sharks face the Roosters in the late
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game on Saturday, and then on Sunday it's Canberra playing
host to the Broncos. Warrior's CEO Cam George is with
us on Sports Talk Cam. Thanks for your time, how
much of a disappointment. Is this scheduling clash on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Look, it's not ideal, but the reality is is you know,
we asked the question, we threw up some options, and
I understand, you know, through the broadcasters in Australia that
you know, the timeslot that's been provided to us now
was the one that was preferred and for their own reasons.
But look, it's you know, at the end of the day,
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it is what it is, and we're just focused on
the weekend's game.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So just to clarify, you went to the NRL ahead
of Finals weekend and asked to be kept away from
the seven o'clock Saturday night slot where the All Blacks
are playing.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, I felt the game had a great opportunity here
for us to get the time slot or have a
time slot that led into the All Blacks game, so
all New Zealanders could watch, you know, a great afternoon
of sport, cheering on both the one New Zealand Warriors
and the mighty All Blacks. And I thought, what a
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great thing for New Zealand, what a great thing for
rugby league that we could be a part of a
you know, a four hour extravaganza of that nature on
TV and in two major cities. However, that's not how
the powers to be saw that. And you know, we'll
get that six o'clock kickoff, and I think I understand
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the All Blacks kickoff around seventy, so there'll be an
hour there. But ideally it would have been better if
it just had two hours to ourselves and then two
hours for the for the All Blacks and let all
the all the sports fans and people in this country
watch it.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
We would have loved that.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
That would have been the perfect Saturday afternoon from from
five right through to nine or whenever it is, so
five o'clock here would have been three o'clock in Australia
for your kickoff under what you proposed. They just weren't
willing to budge on that they weren't at home to
a three o'clock in the afternoon kickoff on the Australian
Eastern seaboard.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
That's my understanding. Yeah, So look, once I understood it
or found out about it, you know, our focus has
just got to get on with it now. And but
I feel like, yeah, there's been a missed opportunity there
for the game in New Zealand, so but anyway, that's
what it is, mate. We just got to get on
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with it now, and you know, we wish you all
works all the best and we'll tune in and watch
them after after we have a good game ourselves in.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Your experience camera another NRL open two discussions like this
and to know this time, but would you go into
conversations like this in the future with optimism or not?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yeah, I do like to be fair to them. They
have that many in the air around requests, broadcast and
other restrictions as well, and you know, it's a balancing act,
no doubt. However, I have no doubt in speaking to
the appropriate people in the n r L and when
(06:23):
need be to do what's best for our game in
the fan base in New Zealand's that's my holy and
solely focus where the NRL have got many of others.
But you know, won't stop me in the future for
you know, try to do what we can do. But
at the end of the day, it is what it
is and we're just going to move on.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So on a weekend like those finals week one of
the NRL, when there are four games, four time slots
Friday night, a couple on Saturday and one on Sunday.
Is there a pecking order for the most attractive game,
the one that they want to put the most attractive
game and to get the most viewers if you get
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I think there's a number of things. You know, Friday
night wasn't a work for us because you know, the
free to wear broadcast in Australia is that of an
eight o'clock kickoff on the Eastern Australi and Eastern Standard time,
and that'll be a ten o'clock kickoff here, So that's
red cross that one. The Saturday afternoon one was our
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preferred option. But I also understand the Wallabies play Saturday
afternoon too somewhere, So whether there's a class with free
to wear broadcasters.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
With that.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
And then Saturday night, well we just wanted to stay
away from that for obvious reason. And Sunday, I understand
camera we're desperate to get their hands on Sunday due
to the turnaround from last week's Sunday game to this
week's game. So as I said, there's so many variables,
what's the best time slot, what's the best class for
each time slot is purely out of my hands. I
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just go into bat what's the best option for our
club and let the NRL determine what is when they
sit at the table.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
All right, well let's decide it.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Now. You've got six o'clock on Saturday, and it won't
stop it from selling out. You'll sell this one out,
massive crowd and coming for your first finals game of
twenty twenty five. What is the ticket situation? Presumably members
have got earlier access than others.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, it's today at twelve o'clock. Members have the opportunity
to buy their tickets up until six o'clock tonight, where
then it goes to the broader membership base and then
public tomorrow. So yeah, it's full on. There's plenty of interest.
They're running out the door, So if you're interested, certainly
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be ready to go as soon as soon as the
tickets become available to the public, which is after the
members get their exclusive period.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Big game cam Penrith Panthers, four time defending champions, tough
game and weekend one of the finals. But I guess
they kind of all, aren't they of the season?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Well, I think it's great that we're playing Penrith. I think,
you know, stepping into a full time premiership winning team
club is a good thing for us, you know, so
we're we're not scared of that. We're excited by it
as a whole club too, not just the players but
the staff. And it's going to be a great event.
And you know, Penrith's a lot of respect for them,
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but at the end of the day, they're a footy
team and so are we, and we're a footy club
and we want to win. So I was up at
training this morning. The boys are feeling fresh and they're
excited about the opportunity to play for our fans in
the in the final series. How great is that. It's
where we want to be and we're there. So we're
not worried about who's in front of us. We're worried
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about ourselves.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, well, we're looking forward to Saturday night. I guess
most people will at six o'clock tune in for your
game and then they'll have a decision to make once
at seven o'clock rolls around. I know a lot of
people double screen, so it's something way bit of double
screening going on, no doubt on Saturday night as.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Well, they could We got a full time when we've
got thirty seven meters of screens there they can watch.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It all right. Well maybe that's a good idea for
those in Auckland. Cam, good to hear from you, eight
thanks for joining the show. Cam George, CEO of the Warriors.
I think he's fairly philosophical about the whole thing, isn't he?
Can you get your views on this? Oh? Eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty He might be philosophical, But the
only conclusion I can possibly draw from this is that
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the NRL don't care at all about the New Zealand
sports fan. If they did, they would have taken Cam
George's plan and rubbing it. Warror is at five on Saturday.
Then we could all watch that and then the All
Blacks at seven. A heck of a lot of people
are going to want to watch both. And now that
becomes problematic because the All Blacks kicks off an hour
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after the Warriors. Yes, you can double screen, of course,
if you've got that capability, but it's not ideal. And
I asked myself, what earthly reason would the NRL have
not to move kickoff back by one Hour's what that's
what they're asking one hour. It's not of the Warriors
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are saying, hey, we want to kick off at one
in the afternoon. They've asked to have the kickoff moved
by an hour from six to five. It's also pretty
typical of the NRAL. I have to say. They believe
they are the be all and end all of sport
in this part of the world. And I know, of
course they're not duty bound to consider any other sports,
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but this just smacks of not wanting to budge on
something which they easily could have been flexible on. I
wait hundred eighty ten eighty for your thoughts. And now
that we have this situation, what are you going to
do when the All Blacks kick off and the Warrior
second half is underway?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
What are you going to watch?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is our number nine two,
nine to two on text, and I can tell you
there are already quite a few coming through on text.
Some are supportive of of what the NRL have done. Others,
I guess are more in my camp. But be keen
to hear from you.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Oh one hundred and Lyle, what do you reckon?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
I think of the fine apple. I'll tell you something
that can George problem. He knows but he won't tell you.
There's definitely a petting order. I'm ringing out of Australia.
Three years ago when Brisbane my bottom of the table
and ended up with the Wooden Spood, they still got
the free air games Thursday and Friday night Channel nine
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showing all the games a semis free to wear right,
and they along the.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Toxel run Rugby League. So nothing suit for Channel nine,
not the Moncos and buying five Michael McGuire coach, Well
he squeals that much. He sounds like a cell going
down the killing. Ryne Wesbine and Ricky Stewart can be
not much better.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
And yeah, the KU team is an after for Unfortunately,
despite the fact they kept the competition, kept the competition
up float well COVID.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeahtely, that's absolutely right and that that point has been
made here on text. Remember when the NRL openly proclaimed
the Warriors saved the competition. What a missed opportunity to
solidify a relationship with Kiwi sports fans next weekend they like,
now get the Broncos and the Raiders and all that.
I mean, that doesn't I don't move the game by
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an hour. Kick off at five what's the big deal?
Speaker 7 (13:47):
No, they shever their ownness and obviously it doesn't you're
doing that.
Speaker 8 (13:52):
I don't know why that's it's just the way it is.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I guess I guess you might be right. Well, I
guess it is the way it is. And look, the
nr or don't have to answer to us. They don't,
but they could have been flexible, Ellen says an earlier
time with the Wallabies, who are the biggest show in town.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Now, No they're not, Allen, they're not.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Are you telling me that more people on this side
of the Tasman are going to want to watch the
Wallabies against Argentina than are going to want to watch
the Warriors in knockout football against the Panthers. People are saying,
why don't Why doesn't New Zealand Rugby move their time back?
Their time's been locked in for ten months? Why should
they move? The NRL had at the start of the
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week or yesterday when the when the top eight were confirmed,
the NRL had four time slots. They had Friday night,
two on Saturday and one on Sunday. You cannot tell
me that they are wedded to six pm Saturday so
much that they can't move it to five.
Speaker 9 (14:56):
Hey Sean, Hey tiny Hey, they just just it does
sound like there was only one option available for the
Warriors though, and we got the best of for us
at Camebra wanted that Sunday game.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeah, I don't know what what what a camera get to?
Why a camera get to choose?
Speaker 7 (15:12):
That?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Is that because they played on the Sunday Presumably that
carries a lot of weight They didn't want the six
day turnaround?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Is that that's presumably why that is?
Speaker 10 (15:20):
It sounds like it right? So the thing so I
know it's a bit of a ball age, but we've
probably got the best we could hope for. And maybe
the rugby could be pushed back an hour, like it
wouldn't make too much different to that skin you would it?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Well, yeah, eight o'clock, No, wouldn't eight o'clock. They're on
a Saturday night. I guess it's it's a you know,
seven o'clock is probably better, you know, because you are
getting a bit later. And like I say, I feel
as though the Rugby Championship schedule has been locked in
for a long time. So if the look the NRAL,
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like I say, aren't duty bound to listen to us
if they don't want to. They can, you know, they
can do what they like, but they could have been flexible.
They did, you know when they put their schedule together
last night the Warriors petition them, they could have seen,
you know what, that's a good idea.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Let's do our our key.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
We mate to favor kick off at five and then
they can watch that and then watch you all blacks.
Speaker 10 (16:14):
Yeah, I guess, but yeah, and it sounds like we've
got the best we could hope for if they weren't
prepared to.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, I know, absolutely right, absolutely right, Sean. Yeah, like
like Cameron George said, the Friday night games you know
too late, you know, locked in for an Australian time,
couldn't get the Sunday because because of the Raiders and
Saturday and night. I guess it is similar to to Friday.
But yeah, like say, we did, we got the best,
best possible. But I think it could have been slightly
better if they'd been willing to be just a little
(16:39):
bit lenient on that hour. But you know, I guess
it is what it is.
Speaker 10 (16:43):
Right, It is what it is.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
That's much on that's right and not just in this regard.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Thanks mate, good to yet you why can't they All
Blacks kickoff at five past eight and set of five
past seven quite often when they go to the Northern
Hemisphere and there are night kickoffs that don't start till nine.
Just to thought, yeah, Peter again, at the risk of
repeating myself, you know that that game has been locked
in for ages, Piney. This is simple replay from the
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start of the All Blacks. Okay, okay, so yeah, and
people are saying that, they're saying, hey, what you could do.
What you could do is you could watch the Warriors.
My sky will record whatever you want to call it,
the All Blacks, and then as soon as the Warriors
are finished, avoid all online or social media or whatever,
and then watch the All Blacks straight away as if
it were live. And I guess that's one way of
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doing it, and many people might do that. I just honestly,
it must just be something in my DNA. I can't
watch sport that I know, not that I know isn't
live in that situation. I can. I can get up
in the morning, you know, for Games two in the
morning and watch that. But for this, if I was
watching the All Blacks delayed by an hour, just as
a small part of my mind would know, Hey, this
isn't live. What I'm seeing here isn't live. The results
(17:58):
already been decided.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Hello Jeff here, good mate.
Speaker 11 (18:02):
I'll just listen to these times.
Speaker 12 (18:05):
And I was looking at a tablen here at pat
mar and uh and I thought myself, Oh, that can't
be right. They you know, why why couldn't the what
couldn't the Rugby League be brought back?
Speaker 11 (18:22):
One hour?
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Everybody?
Speaker 11 (18:25):
Both games?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yep, yeah, and that seems utterly sensible. And hearing Camp
George say it, it's not like they were they were
kicking up a fuss and really wanting to create a
brand new time slot on Sunday or Sunday night, or
they wanted an early game on the Friday or anything
like that. They were just asking for one hour, one hour.
Speaker 11 (18:45):
Yeah, who do you think the public and New Zealand
are going to be watching. Of course, they're going to
watch the All Blacks play. They're not going to They're
not going to be worrying about anything else.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I think you might be surprised. Yet, I think it
might be surprised. And I guess in the Warriors favor
they start first. So if you, for example, the Warriors
get underway at six and you get to half time
in that game, which is what six forty I think
it's actually ten past six it starts or five past anyway,
that's say six forty six forty five. It's half time
and the and the start of the All Blacks game
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is approaching. If it's tight at go Media Stadium, I reckon,
I'm staying there on my you know, for my viewing,
just to you know, at least keeping any on it.
If it's If it's you know, the Warriors are even
just slightly behind, I'm kind of watching that. I want
to know whether they can pull off something which is
unexpected others. Of course, this is a big rugby country,
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as we know, we'll flick across as soon as the
All Blacks start and they'll keep tabs on the Warriors.
In another way, I eight one hundred and eighty ten
eighty has our number. Heaps of text beline there if
you want to jump on with your view, it's seven
twenty seven back in a mo on Sports Talk.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Forget the refs call.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
You make a call on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Sports Talk on your home of sports.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
These talks have been talks.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
There be seven thirty a number of texts along the
same line. Jason, I might not matter. The game could
be over at halftime. The Panthers could have a big
lead and it won't matter, says Glenda Piney. The Warriors
were done by halftime. Stop worrying. You won't miss a thing.
Thanks Steve, and Tony, says Hey. Piney said for gritted teeth,
the result of go media may well be clear before
the All Blacks start, But up the wars, up the wars. Indeed,
I tend to be more well, I like to be
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more optimistic. You're right, that's one possibility. It might be
that we get to halftime in the in the Warriors
game and they are, you know, behind by a substantial margin.
But let's be positive. It may be that they're well
in the game, well in the game.
Speaker 13 (20:38):
Hey, Kevin, good evening, justin How are you good?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Thank you?
Speaker 14 (20:42):
Kevin?
Speaker 13 (20:44):
Yeah, hey, of course, you know, I've been hearing quite
a bit about the conflicted conflicted viewer between the All
Black game and the Warriors game. Of course, of course
I'm one of those with a TV with a split
with the split screen feature, so it's basically I can
watch one life and one or I can watch both
lives simultanousyyah.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
But which is which is a bigger picture then, Kevin,
that's what you have to decide. Which is your little
one in the corner and which is your main one?
Speaker 13 (21:11):
But a little one in the corner. Since I've got
split script, it's like a little tip. There's a small
smaller screen will be probably the Warriors game and of
course the All Black game on sets.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, and I think a lot of people, I mean,
if they don't have the split screen, Kevin, they have
two screens. I mean, I know my just myself, I've
got the TV and then I'll have my tablet off
to the side watching whatever is also on. And so
for me, for me, i'd say, look, I'm going to
make the call at halftime in the Warriors game, I'm
going to say, right, other Warriors still in this? Are
they a real chance? And I'm sincerely hoping that they are.
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So I'll keep them on the big screen and the
All Blacks can play out on the tablet beside me.
I'll keep close tabs on it, and then when the
Warriors game's over, then up onto the big screen go
the All Blacks.
Speaker 13 (21:55):
Of course, and yes, basically have we forgotten another rugby
Championship game before that?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I'm not on it. I'm not yeah, but I'm not.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Would you really choose to watch Australia player Argentina over
the Warriors against the Panthers.
Speaker 13 (22:10):
And this will be a bit of a split, of course.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I was.
Speaker 13 (22:14):
I was chilling Argentina to win last week, so I
was like, I really wanted to the Argies to win.
Hopefully they can do it this week.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I would like to see them when and they you know,
And a small part of me, only a very small part,
but a small part of me wouldn't mind if the
spring Box beat the All Blacks and Argentina beat Australia
because then after four games each in the Rugby Championship,
everybody would have two wins and two losses. That'll be
the closest rugby championship in history.
Speaker 10 (22:43):
Yep.
Speaker 13 (22:43):
At the end, there's I would love to see a
very tight competition this time round. It's a good thing
for us, for the rugby viewer. So it's like, OK,
who's good, who's not? At the end, who can improve?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
That's right, everybody's good. I don't really want the spring
box to beat us.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Just want to clarify that the only silver lining would
be if, for example, that allowed all four teams to
be on the same number of points after four games,
because I think you know we all love Jeopardy in
our sporting competitions. Steve says, punty, that's what my sky
is for you tape one or the other. Again, Yeah,
I know some people are cool, are okay with that?
(23:20):
And it may well be that that's what you do
that you.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Tape.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Clearly, you'd tape the All Blacks, wouldn't you? Or you
could get to the start of the All Blacks and
take the second half of the Warriors and watch that
at the end. I think most people what they do
is watch the Warriors in its entirety and then as
soon as it was finished, put the All Blacks on
and its entirety and you can fast forward through halftime,
couldn't you?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
And the All Blacks?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Anyway, a five pm game Saturday, says Jordan, would clash
with the Wallabies game by an hour, same as ours
clashing with the All Blacks being at six same same.
Why could we not have a Sunday slot? We're a
one team country and they can't make something work for
us out of four games. They don't care half the
NRL players a Pacific Islanders or Keywies. They don't value
our passion for the game. Lazy by the NRL couldn't
(24:02):
agree more. Jordan Ian says, mate. If you're thinking like
the NR executive, they're going to take market share and
ratings off rugby union. If it's close in the Warriors
Panthers game, people may stay on the league. I'm almost
certain that the NROL don't have that as a layer
in their thinking. I'm almost certain that they don't think
(24:24):
to themselves, how can we get more viewers off union.
I know we'll put this big game up against the
All Blacks. It feels to me as though what's happened
here is that Canberra have said we want the Sunday
game because we played on Sunday and their premiere, so
they probably carry a bit more weight. So they've got
the Sunday game. The Warriors can't host the late game
on the Saturday or the Friday night because it's too
(24:46):
late here. It's a ten pm local kickoff, so the
only slot available to the Warriors really was the early
game on Saturday no problem with that. Just move it
by now, just move it by now. A couple more
texts coming through any pub, says Jeff. We'll have multiple
screens and show both games. No Warriors go both teams,
(25:09):
go both teams. I think from an Australian fan, they
want to watch the Panthers and the Wallabies. Yeah, fair enough,
but over here, I'm not sure we should be catering
for Australian sports fans in New Zealand?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Should we?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Gavin?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Says Pinte.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I feel most sorry for the hospitality areas and the pubs.
Imagine how good it'd be the head down to your
local at five watch the Warriors and following by watching
the All Blacks.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
It just sort of truncates, that, doesn't it. You can
get down there at six and watch the Warriors and
then the All Blacks start, and like I say, a
lot of these, a lot of these pubs have you know,
lots of screens. They all do, don't they, so you
can you can sort of watch both. They will have
to decide what sound they pump through. That's the other one. Yeah,
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Like I say, this is all just talking around the
fact that it could have been avoided just on the.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
All blacks races. It's im media today.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Where does he see the areas of improvement for his
team in the second test against the spring Box.
Speaker 15 (26:05):
Yeah, of course. You know when you're again like that
and you're playing the same team again, you some clearias
areas that you can improven and these opportunities you can
see and got back to a tight test match in
the end, and what we can do from game management
sort of stuff, and also some areas set piece areas.
A lot of stuff that was really good, but you
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know there's main focus around set peace and set kip
creating opportunities.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Raser was asked who came up with the move for
the second try on Saturday night with the throat at
the back of the line out Wallace of Tt getting
it a little slighter hand into Will Jordan?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Whose idea was that? Who came up with it?
Speaker 15 (26:41):
It's a combination between Jason Holland and Brent Evans. They
put a little bit of wick in and so we
can find a little seamour opportunity and then you've got
to execute it. That's exciting. Part two moments where people
with you did the execution line out throwing a nice
little inside ball or cross checker. You practice them and
then you put them into into play and its stories
great when they come off.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
So how does Scott Robertson now get his team up
again after such a big test on Saturday, which had
an enormously hyped build up. How does he get them
up again for the second test?
Speaker 15 (27:10):
The big thing for us is, like I said, the
acknowledgment of it. You're up here, got to get back
up there. What's it going to take internally for us?
What's those drivers that get you there? And you've got
to be there on Saturday. That's the key thing. The
timing of it. How you're emotionally connected to this game.
You know to sold out crowd, well, Antonians going to
be having long lunches. They are going to be walking
into the cake and expecting an other performance from us,
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just as we will of ourselves.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So how happy has Scott Robertson been with the new
players he's introduced in the last little while, some of
them through necessity.
Speaker 15 (27:38):
Oh look, we're really pleased. I think the players that
have come in and performed. You have a project over
a four year period and you're going to win and
learn the results we've had this year. A lot of
the guys that have come in have performed and whatever
the schools are, and it's a testament to environment and
how you set people up to make your step up
as I mentioned before, So look we're really pleased with
that and crawing some really good depth inexperience.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
And finally from Scott Robertson from his media conference today,
why did Geordie start off kicking on Saturday night rather
than Bowden Barrett?
Speaker 15 (28:06):
He was the best kicking Barrett and the warm up
your body handed over to him just felt like Jordie
has had a little bit of better timing. So he's
great opportunity, wasn't it. And sometimes you want other kickers
to kick, So if body's not on there, had a
good week kicking and it gives us a little bit
of depth.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
That's some of the comments of Scott Robertson in his
media conference today. Just if you miss the news about
the box team, Rassi Erasmus has rung the changes. He's
named eleven players who weren't involved at all in their
loss at Eden Park in his twenty three for this
coming Saturday seven in the starting lineup and four on
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the bench. Two starters from last weekend have also had
a positional switch, including loose Ford see A Kalisi moving
into the six jersey and reclaiming the captaincy. The skipper
in Test one. Center Jesse Creele is one of five
casualties in a starting back line where only Cheslyn Colby
and Caanan Moody are retained and Moody's moved position. Center
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veteran Locke Eben Etzabeth, first five Andre Pollard and midfielder
Damien dare Lende also drop out of the twenty three,
so he's gone early. Has Russi Erasmus naming his team
as he has become accustomed to doing on Monday night.
He changed last week and did it on Thursday and
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it didn't work, so he's given that a go and
flushed the duney and moved on and decided to do
it on a Monday night instead. Twenty one to eight.
The All Whites meet Australia and the second Soccer Ashes
football match tomorrow night, Go Media Stadium, Australia. On the
first match on Friday night won Dylan Canberra. The trophy
has decided on aggregate scores across the two games. Ryan
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Thomas played his first game for New Zealand in six
years on Friday night, returning from an awful run of
injuries and standing out for the All Whites. I caught
up with Ryan Thomas today and asked how he felt
to be back in All White's colors and how he
came through Friday night in Canberra.
Speaker 14 (30:04):
Yeah, good, felt great, felt great being back. I've had
a little bit of running joke with the staff and
that this week the boys as we that it's been.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Actually too easy on to come back after six years.
Speaker 14 (30:17):
I've fit in quite well and I felt real comfortable
from the get go, so that's obviously a big credit
to the group and how they accept new things.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
So it's also good.
Speaker 14 (30:26):
And yeah, I've pulled up good after the game. I
don't feel any problems. I mean, I played sixty minutes
and that was kind of the aim. Didn't want to
come straight into ninety minutes and then have a question
mark for Tuesday, so I think it was better to
play sixty minutes and then we can go again tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
The performance of the team, I mean, geez good as
I've seen for a long time. How did the players
feel about, in particular the first out, but the performance overall.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Yeah, good, good, very good. We've watched it back.
Speaker 14 (30:53):
I've had had a good talk, but from what I've
obviously seen this week, being being a newcomer for last
six years, haven't obviously been in the group, and to
see how much it's progressed from the OK, we can compete,
so then we can actually hurt teams and that's our
mindset now and that's how we want to how we
want to be going forward. So what you saw Friday
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night was how we want to carry on playing. And
if that's our level from now, then we've got to
make sure we're putting those chances away and then winning games.
And it was really good to see the different type
of football that a New Zealand team. I mean, we
haven't seen that for I don't think ever, and especially
in the national team, especially in a game not against
the Islands.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
So yeah, it was a lot of positives to take
away from that one.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Hundred percent, and you're so right the way that you
were comfortable in possession, the fact that their goalkeep but
the austruliing goalkie was probably man of the match.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
It's never happened against New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Has that just come from the confidence of having so
many guys now playing at a decent level and being
able to miss quickly once you get back in. I mean,
like I say, you've been away six years. Didn't look
like there was any any clunkiness.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Yeah, I mean it's good. I mean it was quite funny.
Speaker 14 (32:03):
My last game was six years ago. The front seat
players were the same, well, so that was that was
quite interesting. But yeah, obviously I've grown up. I mean
I've known Woods in my whole life. I've grown up
with Carlum and Eli, Me and Me and Joe are
basically the same. I mean we think the same about football,
So it was quite easy to come in And yeah,
(32:23):
for all of us, we're all playing at a high
level now or a high level now than in previous years.
And you see that as soon as you come back in.
It's just nice instead of having so many nationalities, you're
coming back and your kiwis again. And I've said that
to so many guys this week, especially all the staff,
and that it just feels good to be a key
we of being in New Zealand. Put that shirt back
on and then once you've got that shirt on you
you feel like you're one with with everyone.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
And yeah, that's that's such.
Speaker 14 (32:47):
An important thing to have for the national team because
you can see that self strength, and yeah, that's what
we've got to build on, especially for the games coming
up leading into the World Cup next year.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
And you mentioned some of the guys have been around
for a while in that front six. That's a great
stat but there are some youngsters too, Finn Sermon and
Tyler Binden, you know, finding their way.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Marco Stammin.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
It's not here, Matt Garbutt here, but another couple of
guys with big futures. It must be also pleasing to
see the new waivers coming. And there's real competition for
places on this team, isn't there.
Speaker 14 (33:14):
Yeah, definitely, definitely, And that's and that's what you want.
I mean, at club level, that's what makes the team
better is competition.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
And for so long, if you if you went.
Speaker 14 (33:23):
Over to Europe, it was it was basically you're gonna
you're gonna be starting in the national team.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
But that's just not the case anymore.
Speaker 14 (33:29):
And that's where we want to be as a as
a national team. If we want to grow as a
as a national team, and it's so nice to see
all the young boys coming through that are doing really
well at the club level and when they come back
here they're not They're not just wanting to be part
of the group or something they wanted. They want to
take the national team to that next level where where
we think we can achieve great things with this group.
So it's it's really promising to see.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
That's the voice of Ryan Thomas. Ahead of tomorrow night's
second matching the Soccer Ashes series, Susan says, why on
earth are we calling a soccer game the Ashes when
it's between New Zealand and Australia. England aren't play. Yeah.
The reason is is this goes back a long way.
When New Zealand and Australia first played a Means International
in Australia one hundred and three years ago, the opposing captains,
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George Campbell and Alex Gibb shared a cigar. Afterwards, they
kept the ashes of those cigar of those cigars, stored
them in a little case and that was played for
between the New Zealand and Australian football teams for years now.
The little casket got lost for a while seventy years.
In fact, it was found again a couple of years ago,
and now the soccer ashes has been resurrected, so it's
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not a rip off of the cricket, it's its own ashes,
the cigar rashes of the inaugural captains of.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
The two sides.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Good about to educate you on that season and everybody
else who's asking why are they calling it the ashes?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
That is why? Coming up quarter to eight Pinty's Power
rankings coming up right after this snour rankings.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, Monday nights when we rake the weekend and the best,
the worst, and the in between bits from the last
twenty four to forty eight hours. Ten is the baseball
fan who's been nicknamed Phillies Karen demanding a ball thrown
into the crowd be given to her instead of the
boy that was thrown to.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
A little infighting here.
Speaker 10 (35:19):
You know, he did give it who I would assume
is his son.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Okay, did give it to the youngster that this lead.
He's got to get it under control.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Ugh, what is going on? That is weird?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
They thoroughly embarrassing incident that, regardless of whose fault, shows
the worst of humanity. Nine the woeful Newcastle Knights completely
rolling over in their final game of the NRL season
to well and truly earn the Wooden Spoon.
Speaker 11 (35:56):
At full time they've taken down the Newcastle Knights have
had of them the Wooden Spoon.
Speaker 14 (36:02):
Paramatta have beaten.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
The Knights sixty six points to tip.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I guess there's always next season for Andy McDonald's Newcastle Knight.
Eight is the nonsensical scheduling of the NRL Finals, The
Warriors clashing with the All Blacks on Saturday night, a
situation the Warriors had a great solution to avoid.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Ideally, it would have been better effort. Just had two
hours to ourselves and then two hours for the for
the All Blacks, and that all the all the sports
fans and people in this country watch it.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Far too sensible, Far too sensible, Cam George, get your
two screens ready for Saturday. The Warriors themselves, even if
it all went down hill after this, they've earned a
spot by what they did after nine seconds, So Day
two of around twenty seven underway on Fox League Hour, would.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Have bounced it up absolutely. Oh falls mad, I don't
believe this.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
You are kidding me.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
That didn't happen.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Yes it did.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
We have seen a first.
Speaker 10 (37:04):
It has to be.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
James Sosha Harris after nine seconds scoring the tries six.
Pittsburgh quarterback Aaron Rodgers with some fighting words after defeating
his former team, the Jets.
Speaker 12 (37:16):
I was happy to beat everybody associated with the Jets.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Not a lot of gray area there.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Five into the top five, where we find the Wallabies
down by three points to Argentina with time running out.
They were rewarded a penalty and faced with a choice.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
We need to find it.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
And now what do you too, Michael Hooper? How much
does a draw give you? Leading into the Rugby Championship?
Whither going all in? And the outcome of that great decision?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
They hit the Jackies waiting to solve their victory for
courage over caution.
Speaker 9 (38:04):
Four for a sport.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Rugby commentator Jeff mctainsch.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
The more observant rugby viewers would have heard him commentating
the ran Furley Shield match on Saturday afternoon, closing it
on fifteen hour Canterbury and the party maybe underway christ
Church and then ninety minutes later he was calling the
All Blacks.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
The next chapter in the.
Speaker 9 (38:24):
Great Rivalry is underwave.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
At Eton Park.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
An absolutely heroic effort to answer a late SOS call
and rush to Eden Park for the biggest test of
the year.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
And what a job he did.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Three Canterbury are at three, claiming the Ranfurley Shield in
emphatic fashion.
Speaker 16 (38:40):
Emphatic Channabury have won the ran Philly Shield.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
They've come to Rugby Parking.
Speaker 14 (38:47):
Then Chicago Channabury win the Ranfilly Shield for the seventeenth time,
the third holder in three weeks.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Can Tasman take it to four from four this coming weekend.
Two the Black Ferns smashing Ireland in their final pull
match at the Rugby World Cup this morning.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Let Dinger leaking up on.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
The outside, Sarrenson McKee, Georgia Miller trying to get on
the outside.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Oh, fall back and field?
Speaker 9 (39:12):
What have we just seen?
Speaker 5 (39:15):
What are the tries of the world?
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Job really kicking in together?
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Black Ferns just in time for the knockout stages where
they'll meet South Africa in the quarter finals.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
But they're not number one.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
That has to be the All Blacks defending Eden Park
in what will go down as an all time rugby classic.
Speaker 10 (39:34):
Beck for Preston turn Mackenzie into.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
The stands and the All Blacks defend.
Speaker 16 (39:40):
The Fortress twenty four seventeen and at all time test
match between these two.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Nations, at least some the Newcastle Knights were in bottom. Yeah,
thanks Fining. This is very nice of you.
Speaker 16 (40:03):
You know, I think this Australian results.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
After doing a day of.
Speaker 16 (40:07):
Talkback where we mostly actually agreed we would have taken
a drawer shows how meek and cowardly we all are. Gutsy,
good on the may good on them, good on them,
and I worked out it's a difference a draw versus
a losing bonus point.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
It's a difference between one point, so I may as
well go for it.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Why not so good to see, Good to see from
the Wallamies. Those are Piney's power rankings. They're back next
Monday night. They're coming up four to eight. That is
pretty much us on Sports Talk for tonight. We're back
on weekend Sport this coming Saturday. Darcy Watergrave has Sports
Talk for the rest.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Of this week.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Piney says, Mars, I know you watch multiple screens on
sport and I don't know how you do it, because
you aren't invested in one game. You built different. You
must I Yeah, it's a good point you make. But
I think what you do is you find the game
that you are most invested in. That's your big screen.
Everything else's secondary. You know, the two screens aren't the
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same size. For me, I've got my big screen, my
number one screen, and then an auxiliary screen, a second screen,
a slightly less important screen, and they might change. In fact,
they have changed on occasion. I've flip them. Yeah, but
I just can't do I can't do replayed sport. I
just can't do it, unfortunately, But that's just me. Marcus
(41:25):
lash is on your radio after eight o'clock to take
you through the rest of this Monday. As I say,
we're back on weekend Sport this coming Saturday, coming to
you live from Shed twenty two and Wellington Building towards
that second All Black South Africa test later on that
night at Sky Stadium.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
We're also trying to keep our eyes on the Warriors.
Of course. Have a good night. See us had date.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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sports Talk on News Talks EDB. September eighth, Happy seventy
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All Blacks captain Graham Murray. He won fifty five of
those sixty one games for the All Blacks. Coincidentally, I'm
Jason Pine Show produced by Andy McDonald. We're going to
talk sport with you until eight o'clock. The NRL do
(00:44):
not care about New Zealand sports fans. That's been made
pretty obvious by the scheduling of the Warriors knockout finals
match against Penrith for Saturday at six pm. That means
the second half will start at around about the same
time the All Blacks kick off against the spring Box
at Sky Stadium. The Warriors report addly petitioned the NRL
(01:08):
to avoid this very thing from happening, and now this
very thing has happened. Warrior's CEO Cam George, standing by
the chat with I said, don't keep for your views.
Was it at all unreasonable for the NRL to find
a way to avoid this clash?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Could they if they wanted to? Of course they could have.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
And now that it is locked in for six o'clock
Warriors seven o'clock All Blacks, how will you handle your
Saturday night sports viewing? Also tonight, the All Whites are
in Auckland for Tomorrow night's second match in the Soccer
Ashes series against Australia. They were very good in game
one on Friday night before falling one nil in Canberra.
Ryan Thomas made his return to international football after six
(01:46):
years away. He's on the show tonight as well. And
the Springboks have just named their team for Saturday night's
second Test against the All Blacks and Wellington after waiting
until Thursday last week. Rassie Erasmus has reverted back to
his tradition of revealing or unveiling his team very early
in the week. We'll have a look at that as well.
But I can tell you I think we've done the
(02:07):
maths right here. Of the twenty three who played the
other night, eleven changes to that twenty three, eleven new faces,
seven and the starting fifteen and four on the bench.
So he has absolutely rung the changes. Rassi Erasmus in
the wake of that loss at Eden Park the other night,
and on Monday nights we rate the weekend. Of course,
(02:28):
Piney's Power rankings. Before we close the show at eight,
please join the conversation if you'd like to, oh eight
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emails in to Jason at Newstalk SIB dot co dot NZ.
Coming up ten past seven.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
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on Sports Talk call oh eight hundred eighty eight News
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Speaker 2 (02:52):
The NRL's playoff schedule has raised a number of questions
about disregard or plain ignorance of New Zealand sports fans.
The Warriors we'll host the Panthers on Saturday night at six.
The All Blacks second Test against the Spring Box off
at seven. Elsewhere, the Storm will play the Bulldogs on
Friday night. The Sharks face the Roosters in the late
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game on Saturday, and then on Sunday it's Canberra playing
host to the Broncos. Warrior's CEO Cam George is with
us on Sports Talk Cam. Thanks for your time, how
much of a disappointment. Is this scheduling clash on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Look, it's not ideal, but the reality is is you know,
we asked the question, we threw up some options, and
I understand, you know, through the broadcasters in Australia that
you know, the timeslot that's been provided to us now
was the one that was preferred and for their own reasons.
But look, it's you know, at the end of the day,
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it is what it is, and we're just focused on
the weekend's game.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So just to clarify, you went to the NRL ahead
of Finals weekend and asked to be kept away from
the seven o'clock Saturday night slot where the All Blacks
are playing.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, I felt the game had a great opportunity here
for us to get the time slot or have a
time slot that led into the All Blacks game, so
all New Zealanders could watch, you know, a great afternoon
of sport, cheering on both the one New Zealand Warriors
and the mighty All Blacks. And I thought, what a
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great thing for New Zealand, what a great thing for
rugby league that we could be a part of a
you know, a four hour extravaganza of that nature on
TV and in two major cities. However, that's not how
the powers to be saw that. And you know, we'll
get that six o'clock kickoff, and I think I understand
(04:47):
the All Blacks kickoff around seventy, so there'll be an
hour there. But ideally it would have been better if
it just had two hours to ourselves and then two
hours for the for the All Blacks and let all
the all the sports fans and people in this country
watch it.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
We would have loved that.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
That would have been the perfect Saturday afternoon from from
five right through to nine or whenever it is, so
five o'clock here would have been three o'clock in Australia
for your kickoff under what you proposed. They just weren't
willing to budge on that they weren't at home to
a three o'clock in the afternoon kickoff on the Australian
Eastern seaboard.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
That's my understanding. Yeah, So look, once I understood it
or found out about it, you know, our focus has
just got to get on with it now. And but
I feel like, yeah, there's been a missed opportunity there
for the game in New Zealand, so but anyway, that's
what it is, mate. We just got to get on
(05:43):
with it now, and you know, we wish you all
works all the best and we'll tune in and watch
them after after we have a good game ourselves in.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Your experience camera another NRL open two discussions like this
and to know this time, but would you go into
conversations like this in the future with optimism or not?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yeah, I do like to be fair to them. They
have that many in the air around requests, broadcast and
other restrictions as well, and you know, it's a balancing act,
no doubt. However, I have no doubt in speaking to
the appropriate people in the n r L and when
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need be to do what's best for our game in
the fan base in New Zealand's that's my holy and
solely focus where the NRL have got many of others.
But you know, won't stop me in the future for
you know, try to do what we can do. But
at the end of the day, it is what it
is and we're just going to move on.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So on a weekend like those finals week one of
the NRL, when there are four games, four time slots
Friday night, a couple on Saturday and one on Sunday.
Is there a pecking order for the most attractive game,
the one that they want to put the most attractive
game and to get the most viewers if you get
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I think there's a number of things. You know, Friday
night wasn't a work for us because you know, the
free to wear broadcast in Australia is that of an
eight o'clock kickoff on the Eastern Australi and Eastern Standard time,
and that'll be a ten o'clock kickoff here, So that's
red cross that one. The Saturday afternoon one was our
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preferred option. But I also understand the Wallabies play Saturday
afternoon too somewhere, So whether there's a class with free
to wear broadcasters.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
With that.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
And then Saturday night, well we just wanted to stay
away from that for obvious reason. And Sunday, I understand
camera we're desperate to get their hands on Sunday due
to the turnaround from last week's Sunday game to this
week's game. So as I said, there's so many variables,
what's the best time slot, what's the best class for
each time slot is purely out of my hands. I
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just go into bat what's the best option for our
club and let the NRL determine what is when they
sit at the table.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
All right, well let's decide it.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Now. You've got six o'clock on Saturday, and it won't
stop it from selling out. You'll sell this one out,
massive crowd and coming for your first finals game of
twenty twenty five. What is the ticket situation? Presumably members
have got earlier access than others.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, it's today at twelve o'clock. Members have the opportunity
to buy their tickets up until six o'clock tonight, where
then it goes to the broader membership base and then
public tomorrow. So yeah, it's full on. There's plenty of interest.
They're running out the door, So if you're interested, certainly
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be ready to go as soon as soon as the
tickets become available to the public, which is after the
members get their exclusive period.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Big game cam Penrith Panthers, four time defending champions, tough
game and weekend one of the finals. But I guess
they kind of all, aren't they of the season?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Well, I think it's great that we're playing Penrith. I think,
you know, stepping into a full time premiership winning team
club is a good thing for us, you know, so
we're we're not scared of that. We're excited by it
as a whole club too, not just the players but
the staff. And it's going to be a great event.
And you know, Penrith's a lot of respect for them,
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but at the end of the day, they're a footy
team and so are we, and we're a footy club
and we want to win. So I was up at
training this morning. The boys are feeling fresh and they're
excited about the opportunity to play for our fans in
the in the final series. How great is that. It's
where we want to be and we're there. So we're
not worried about who's in front of us. We're worried
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about ourselves.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, well, we're looking forward to Saturday night. I guess
most people will at six o'clock tune in for your
game and then they'll have a decision to make once
at seven o'clock rolls around. I know a lot of
people double screen, so it's something way bit of double
screening going on, no doubt on Saturday night as.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Well, they could We got a full time when we've
got thirty seven meters of screens there they can watch.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It all right. Well maybe that's a good idea for
those in Auckland. Cam, good to hear from you, eight
thanks for joining the show. Cam George, CEO of the Warriors.
I think he's fairly philosophical about the whole thing, isn't he?
Can you get your views on this? Oh? Eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty He might be philosophical, But the
only conclusion I can possibly draw from this is that
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the NRL don't care at all about the New Zealand
sports fan. If they did, they would have taken Cam
George's plan and rubbing it. Warror is at five on Saturday.
Then we could all watch that and then the All
Blacks at seven. A heck of a lot of people
are going to want to watch both. And now that
becomes problematic because the All Blacks kicks off an hour
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after the Warriors. Yes, you can double screen, of course,
if you've got that capability, but it's not ideal. And
I asked myself, what earthly reason would the NRL have
not to move kickoff back by one Hour's what that's
what they're asking one hour. It's not of the Warriors
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are saying, hey, we want to kick off at one
in the afternoon. They've asked to have the kickoff moved
by an hour from six to five. It's also pretty
typical of the NRAL. I have to say. They believe
they are the be all and end all of sport
in this part of the world. And I know, of
course they're not duty bound to consider any other sports,
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but this just smacks of not wanting to budge on
something which they easily could have been flexible on. I
wait hundred eighty ten eighty for your thoughts. And now
that we have this situation, what are you going to
do when the All Blacks kick off and the Warrior
second half is underway?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
What are you going to watch?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is our number nine two,
nine to two on text, and I can tell you
there are already quite a few coming through on text.
Some are supportive of of what the NRL have done. Others,
I guess are more in my camp. But be keen
to hear from you.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Oh one hundred and Lyle, what do you reckon?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
I think of the fine apple. I'll tell you something
that can George problem. He knows but he won't tell you.
There's definitely a petting order. I'm ringing out of Australia.
Three years ago when Brisbane my bottom of the table
and ended up with the Wooden Spood, they still got
the free air games Thursday and Friday night Channel nine
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showing all the games a semis free to wear right,
and they along the.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Toxel run Rugby League. So nothing suit for Channel nine,
not the Moncos and buying five Michael McGuire coach, Well
he squeals that much. He sounds like a cell going
down the killing. Ryne Wesbine and Ricky Stewart can be
not much better.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
And yeah, the KU team is an after for Unfortunately,
despite the fact they kept the competition, kept the competition
up float well COVID.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeahtely, that's absolutely right and that that point has been
made here on text. Remember when the NRL openly proclaimed
the Warriors saved the competition. What a missed opportunity to
solidify a relationship with Kiwi sports fans next weekend they like,
now get the Broncos and the Raiders and all that.
I mean, that doesn't I don't move the game by
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an hour. Kick off at five what's the big deal?
Speaker 7 (13:47):
No, they shever their ownness and obviously it doesn't you're
doing that.
Speaker 8 (13:52):
I don't know why that's it's just the way it is.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I guess I guess you might be right. Well, I
guess it is the way it is. And look, the
nr or don't have to answer to us. They don't,
but they could have been flexible, Ellen says an earlier
time with the Wallabies, who are the biggest show in town.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Now, No they're not, Allen, they're not.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Are you telling me that more people on this side
of the Tasman are going to want to watch the
Wallabies against Argentina than are going to want to watch
the Warriors in knockout football against the Panthers. People are saying,
why don't Why doesn't New Zealand Rugby move their time back?
Their time's been locked in for ten months? Why should
they move? The NRL had at the start of the
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week or yesterday when the when the top eight were confirmed,
the NRL had four time slots. They had Friday night,
two on Saturday and one on Sunday. You cannot tell
me that they are wedded to six pm Saturday so
much that they can't move it to five.
Speaker 9 (14:56):
Hey Sean, Hey tiny Hey, they just just it does
sound like there was only one option available for the
Warriors though, and we got the best of for us
at Camebra wanted that Sunday game.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeah, I don't know what what what a camera get to?
Why a camera get to choose?
Speaker 7 (15:12):
That?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Is that because they played on the Sunday Presumably that
carries a lot of weight They didn't want the six
day turnaround?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Is that that's presumably why that is?
Speaker 10 (15:20):
It sounds like it right? So the thing so I
know it's a bit of a ball age, but we've
probably got the best we could hope for. And maybe
the rugby could be pushed back an hour, like it
wouldn't make too much different to that skin you would it?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Well, yeah, eight o'clock, No, wouldn't eight o'clock. They're on
a Saturday night. I guess it's it's a you know,
seven o'clock is probably better, you know, because you are
getting a bit later. And like I say, I feel
as though the Rugby Championship schedule has been locked in
for a long time. So if the look the NRAL,
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like I say, aren't duty bound to listen to us
if they don't want to. They can, you know, they
can do what they like, but they could have been flexible.
They did, you know when they put their schedule together
last night the Warriors petition them, they could have seen,
you know what, that's a good idea.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Let's do our our key.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
We mate to favor kick off at five and then
they can watch that and then watch you all blacks.
Speaker 10 (16:14):
Yeah, I guess, but yeah, and it sounds like we've
got the best we could hope for if they weren't
prepared to.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, I know, absolutely right, absolutely right, Sean. Yeah, like
like Cameron George said, the Friday night games you know
too late, you know, locked in for an Australian time,
couldn't get the Sunday because because of the Raiders and
Saturday and night. I guess it is similar to to Friday.
But yeah, like say, we did, we got the best,
best possible. But I think it could have been slightly
better if they'd been willing to be just a little
(16:39):
bit lenient on that hour. But you know, I guess
it is what it is.
Speaker 10 (16:43):
Right, It is what it is.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
That's much on that's right and not just in this regard.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Thanks mate, good to yet you why can't they All
Blacks kickoff at five past eight and set of five
past seven quite often when they go to the Northern
Hemisphere and there are night kickoffs that don't start till nine.
Just to thought, yeah, Peter again, at the risk of
repeating myself, you know that that game has been locked
in for ages, Piney. This is simple replay from the
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start of the All Blacks. Okay, okay, so yeah, and
people are saying that, they're saying, hey, what you could do.
What you could do is you could watch the Warriors.
My sky will record whatever you want to call it,
the All Blacks, and then as soon as the Warriors
are finished, avoid all online or social media or whatever,
and then watch the All Blacks straight away as if
it were live. And I guess that's one way of
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doing it, and many people might do that. I just honestly,
it must just be something in my DNA. I can't
watch sport that I know, not that I know isn't
live in that situation. I can. I can get up
in the morning, you know, for Games two in the
morning and watch that. But for this, if I was
watching the All Blacks delayed by an hour, just as
a small part of my mind would know, Hey, this
isn't live. What I'm seeing here isn't live. The results
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already been decided.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Hello Jeff here, good mate.
Speaker 11 (18:02):
I'll just listen to these times.
Speaker 12 (18:05):
And I was looking at a tablen here at pat
mar and uh and I thought myself, Oh, that can't
be right. They you know, why why couldn't the what
couldn't the Rugby League be brought back?
Speaker 11 (18:22):
One hour?
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Everybody?
Speaker 11 (18:25):
Both games?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yep, yeah, and that seems utterly sensible. And hearing Camp
George say it, it's not like they were they were
kicking up a fuss and really wanting to create a
brand new time slot on Sunday or Sunday night, or
they wanted an early game on the Friday or anything
like that. They were just asking for one hour, one hour.
Speaker 11 (18:45):
Yeah, who do you think the public and New Zealand
are going to be watching. Of course, they're going to
watch the All Blacks play. They're not going to They're
not going to be worrying about anything else.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I think you might be surprised. Yet, I think it
might be surprised. And I guess in the Warriors favor
they start first. So if you, for example, the Warriors
get underway at six and you get to half time
in that game, which is what six forty I think
it's actually ten past six it starts or five past anyway,
that's say six forty six forty five. It's half time
and the and the start of the All Blacks game
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is approaching. If it's tight at go Media Stadium, I reckon,
I'm staying there on my you know, for my viewing,
just to you know, at least keeping any on it.
If it's If it's you know, the Warriors are even
just slightly behind, I'm kind of watching that. I want
to know whether they can pull off something which is
unexpected others. Of course, this is a big rugby country,
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as we know, we'll flick across as soon as the
All Blacks start and they'll keep tabs on the Warriors.
In another way, I eight one hundred and eighty ten
eighty has our number. Heaps of text beline there if
you want to jump on with your view, it's seven
twenty seven back in a mo on Sports Talk.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Forget the refs call.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
You make a call on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Sports Talk on your home of sports.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
These talks have been talks.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
There be seven thirty a number of texts along the
same line. Jason, I might not matter. The game could
be over at halftime. The Panthers could have a big
lead and it won't matter, says Glenda Piney. The Warriors
were done by halftime. Stop worrying. You won't miss a thing.
Thanks Steve, and Tony, says Hey. Piney said for gritted teeth,
the result of go media may well be clear before
the All Blacks start, But up the wars, up the wars. Indeed,
I tend to be more well, I like to be
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more optimistic. You're right, that's one possibility. It might be
that we get to halftime in the in the Warriors
game and they are, you know, behind by a substantial margin.
But let's be positive. It may be that they're well
in the game, well in the game.
Speaker 13 (20:38):
Hey, Kevin, good evening, justin How are you good?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Thank you?
Speaker 14 (20:42):
Kevin?
Speaker 13 (20:44):
Yeah, hey, of course, you know, I've been hearing quite
a bit about the conflicted conflicted viewer between the All
Black game and the Warriors game. Of course, of course
I'm one of those with a TV with a split
with the split screen feature, so it's basically I can
watch one life and one or I can watch both
lives simultanousyyah.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
But which is which is a bigger picture then, Kevin,
that's what you have to decide. Which is your little
one in the corner and which is your main one?
Speaker 13 (21:11):
But a little one in the corner. Since I've got
split script, it's like a little tip. There's a small
smaller screen will be probably the Warriors game and of
course the All Black game on sets.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, and I think a lot of people, I mean,
if they don't have the split screen, Kevin, they have
two screens. I mean, I know my just myself, I've
got the TV and then I'll have my tablet off
to the side watching whatever is also on. And so
for me, for me, i'd say, look, I'm going to
make the call at halftime in the Warriors game, I'm
going to say, right, other Warriors still in this? Are
they a real chance? And I'm sincerely hoping that they are.
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So I'll keep them on the big screen and the
All Blacks can play out on the tablet beside me.
I'll keep close tabs on it, and then when the
Warriors game's over, then up onto the big screen go
the All Blacks.
Speaker 13 (21:55):
Of course, and yes, basically have we forgotten another rugby
Championship game before that?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I'm not on it. I'm not yeah, but I'm not.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Would you really choose to watch Australia player Argentina over
the Warriors against the Panthers.
Speaker 13 (22:10):
And this will be a bit of a split, of course.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I was.
Speaker 13 (22:14):
I was chilling Argentina to win last week, so I
was like, I really wanted to the Argies to win.
Hopefully they can do it this week.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I would like to see them when and they you know,
And a small part of me, only a very small part,
but a small part of me wouldn't mind if the
spring Box beat the All Blacks and Argentina beat Australia
because then after four games each in the Rugby Championship,
everybody would have two wins and two losses. That'll be
the closest rugby championship in history.
Speaker 10 (22:43):
Yep.
Speaker 13 (22:43):
At the end, there's I would love to see a
very tight competition this time round. It's a good thing
for us, for the rugby viewer. So it's like, OK,
who's good, who's not? At the end, who can improve?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
That's right, everybody's good. I don't really want the spring
box to beat us.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Just want to clarify that the only silver lining would
be if, for example, that allowed all four teams to
be on the same number of points after four games,
because I think you know we all love Jeopardy in
our sporting competitions. Steve says, punty, that's what my sky
is for you tape one or the other. Again, Yeah,
I know some people are cool, are okay with that?
(23:20):
And it may well be that that's what you do
that you.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Tape.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Clearly, you'd tape the All Blacks, wouldn't you? Or you
could get to the start of the All Blacks and
take the second half of the Warriors and watch that
at the end. I think most people what they do
is watch the Warriors in its entirety and then as
soon as it was finished, put the All Blacks on
and its entirety and you can fast forward through halftime,
couldn't you?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
And the All Blacks?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Anyway, a five pm game Saturday, says Jordan, would clash
with the Wallabies game by an hour, same as ours
clashing with the All Blacks being at six same same.
Why could we not have a Sunday slot? We're a
one team country and they can't make something work for
us out of four games. They don't care half the
NRL players a Pacific Islanders or Keywies. They don't value
our passion for the game. Lazy by the NRL couldn't
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agree more. Jordan Ian says, mate. If you're thinking like
the NR executive, they're going to take market share and
ratings off rugby union. If it's close in the Warriors
Panthers game, people may stay on the league. I'm almost
certain that the NROL don't have that as a layer
in their thinking. I'm almost certain that they don't think
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to themselves, how can we get more viewers off union.
I know we'll put this big game up against the
All Blacks. It feels to me as though what's happened
here is that Canberra have said we want the Sunday
game because we played on Sunday and their premiere, so
they probably carry a bit more weight. So they've got
the Sunday game. The Warriors can't host the late game
on the Saturday or the Friday night because it's too
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late here. It's a ten pm local kickoff, so the
only slot available to the Warriors really was the early
game on Saturday no problem with that. Just move it
by now, just move it by now. A couple more
texts coming through any pub, says Jeff. We'll have multiple
screens and show both games. No Warriors go both teams,
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go both teams. I think from an Australian fan, they
want to watch the Panthers and the Wallabies. Yeah, fair enough,
but over here, I'm not sure we should be catering
for Australian sports fans in New Zealand?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Should we?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Gavin?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Says Pinte.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I feel most sorry for the hospitality areas and the pubs.
Imagine how good it'd be the head down to your
local at five watch the Warriors and following by watching
the All Blacks.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
It just sort of truncates, that, doesn't it. You can
get down there at six and watch the Warriors and
then the All Blacks start, and like I say, a
lot of these, a lot of these pubs have you know,
lots of screens. They all do, don't they, so you
can you can sort of watch both. They will have
to decide what sound they pump through. That's the other one. Yeah,
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Like I say, this is all just talking around the
fact that it could have been avoided just on the.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
All blacks races. It's im media today.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Where does he see the areas of improvement for his
team in the second test against the spring Box.
Speaker 15 (26:05):
Yeah, of course. You know when you're again like that
and you're playing the same team again, you some clearias
areas that you can improven and these opportunities you can
see and got back to a tight test match in
the end, and what we can do from game management
sort of stuff, and also some areas set piece areas.
A lot of stuff that was really good, but you
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know there's main focus around set peace and set kip
creating opportunities.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Raser was asked who came up with the move for
the second try on Saturday night with the throat at
the back of the line out Wallace of Tt getting
it a little slighter hand into Will Jordan?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Whose idea was that? Who came up with it?
Speaker 15 (26:41):
It's a combination between Jason Holland and Brent Evans. They
put a little bit of wick in and so we
can find a little seamour opportunity and then you've got
to execute it. That's exciting. Part two moments where people
with you did the execution line out throwing a nice
little inside ball or cross checker. You practice them and
then you put them into into play and its stories
great when they come off.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
So how does Scott Robertson now get his team up
again after such a big test on Saturday, which had
an enormously hyped build up. How does he get them
up again for the second test?
Speaker 15 (27:10):
The big thing for us is, like I said, the
acknowledgment of it. You're up here, got to get back
up there. What's it going to take internally for us?
What's those drivers that get you there? And you've got
to be there on Saturday. That's the key thing. The
timing of it. How you're emotionally connected to this game.
You know to sold out crowd, well, Antonians going to
be having long lunches. They are going to be walking
into the cake and expecting an other performance from us,
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just as we will of ourselves.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So how happy has Scott Robertson been with the new
players he's introduced in the last little while, some of
them through necessity.
Speaker 15 (27:38):
Oh look, we're really pleased. I think the players that
have come in and performed. You have a project over
a four year period and you're going to win and
learn the results we've had this year. A lot of
the guys that have come in have performed and whatever
the schools are, and it's a testament to environment and
how you set people up to make your step up
as I mentioned before, So look we're really pleased with
that and crawing some really good depth inexperience.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
And finally from Scott Robertson from his media conference today,
why did Geordie start off kicking on Saturday night rather
than Bowden Barrett?
Speaker 15 (28:06):
He was the best kicking Barrett and the warm up
your body handed over to him just felt like Jordie
has had a little bit of better timing. So he's
great opportunity, wasn't it. And sometimes you want other kickers
to kick, So if body's not on there, had a
good week kicking and it gives us a little bit
of depth.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
That's some of the comments of Scott Robertson in his
media conference today. Just if you miss the news about
the box team, Rassi Erasmus has rung the changes. He's
named eleven players who weren't involved at all in their
loss at Eden Park in his twenty three for this
coming Saturday seven in the starting lineup and four on
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the bench. Two starters from last weekend have also had
a positional switch, including loose Ford see A Kalisi moving
into the six jersey and reclaiming the captaincy. The skipper
in Test one. Center Jesse Creele is one of five
casualties in a starting back line where only Cheslyn Colby
and Caanan Moody are retained and Moody's moved position. Center
(29:07):
veteran Locke Eben Etzabeth, first five Andre Pollard and midfielder
Damien dare Lende also drop out of the twenty three,
so he's gone early. Has Russi Erasmus naming his team
as he has become accustomed to doing on Monday night.
He changed last week and did it on Thursday and
(29:28):
it didn't work, so he's given that a go and
flushed the duney and moved on and decided to do
it on a Monday night instead. Twenty one to eight.
The All Whites meet Australia and the second Soccer Ashes
football match tomorrow night, Go Media Stadium, Australia. On the
first match on Friday night won Dylan Canberra. The trophy
has decided on aggregate scores across the two games. Ryan
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Thomas played his first game for New Zealand in six
years on Friday night, returning from an awful run of
injuries and standing out for the All Whites. I caught
up with Ryan Thomas today and asked how he felt
to be back in All White's colors and how he
came through Friday night in Canberra.
Speaker 14 (30:04):
Yeah, good, felt great, felt great being back. I've had
a little bit of running joke with the staff and
that this week the boys as we that it's been.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Actually too easy on to come back after six years.
Speaker 14 (30:17):
I've fit in quite well and I felt real comfortable
from the get go, so that's obviously a big credit
to the group and how they accept new things.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
So it's also good.
Speaker 14 (30:26):
And yeah, I've pulled up good after the game. I
don't feel any problems. I mean, I played sixty minutes
and that was kind of the aim. Didn't want to
come straight into ninety minutes and then have a question
mark for Tuesday, so I think it was better to
play sixty minutes and then we can go again tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
The performance of the team, I mean, geez good as
I've seen for a long time. How did the players
feel about, in particular the first out, but the performance overall.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Yeah, good, good, very good. We've watched it back.
Speaker 14 (30:53):
I've had had a good talk, but from what I've
obviously seen this week, being being a newcomer for last
six years, haven't obviously been in the group, and to
see how much it's progressed from the OK, we can compete,
so then we can actually hurt teams and that's our
mindset now and that's how we want to how we
want to be going forward. So what you saw Friday
(31:17):
night was how we want to carry on playing. And
if that's our level from now, then we've got to
make sure we're putting those chances away and then winning games.
And it was really good to see the different type
of football that a New Zealand team. I mean, we
haven't seen that for I don't think ever, and especially
in the national team, especially in a game not against
the Islands.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
So yeah, it was a lot of positives to take
away from that one.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Hundred percent, and you're so right the way that you
were comfortable in possession, the fact that their goalkeep but
the austruliing goalkie was probably man of the match.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
It's never happened against New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Has that just come from the confidence of having so
many guys now playing at a decent level and being
able to miss quickly once you get back in. I mean,
like I say, you've been away six years. Didn't look
like there was any any clunkiness.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Yeah, I mean it's good. I mean it was quite funny.
Speaker 14 (32:03):
My last game was six years ago. The front seat
players were the same, well, so that was that was
quite interesting. But yeah, obviously I've grown up. I mean
I've known Woods in my whole life. I've grown up
with Carlum and Eli, Me and Me and Joe are
basically the same. I mean we think the same about football,
So it was quite easy to come in And yeah,
(32:23):
for all of us, we're all playing at a high
level now or a high level now than in previous years.
And you see that as soon as you come back in.
It's just nice instead of having so many nationalities, you're
coming back and your kiwis again. And I've said that
to so many guys this week, especially all the staff,
and that it just feels good to be a key
we of being in New Zealand. Put that shirt back
on and then once you've got that shirt on you
you feel like you're one with with everyone.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
And yeah, that's that's such.
Speaker 14 (32:47):
An important thing to have for the national team because
you can see that self strength, and yeah, that's what
we've got to build on, especially for the games coming
up leading into the World Cup next year.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
And you mentioned some of the guys have been around
for a while in that front six. That's a great
stat but there are some youngsters too, Finn Sermon and
Tyler Binden, you know, finding their way.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Marco Stammin.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
It's not here, Matt Garbutt here, but another couple of
guys with big futures. It must be also pleasing to
see the new waivers coming. And there's real competition for
places on this team, isn't there.
Speaker 14 (33:14):
Yeah, definitely, definitely, And that's and that's what you want.
I mean, at club level, that's what makes the team
better is competition.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
And for so long, if you if you went.
Speaker 14 (33:23):
Over to Europe, it was it was basically you're gonna
you're gonna be starting in the national team.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
But that's just not the case anymore.
Speaker 14 (33:29):
And that's where we want to be as a as
a national team. If we want to grow as a
as a national team, and it's so nice to see
all the young boys coming through that are doing really
well at the club level and when they come back
here they're not They're not just wanting to be part
of the group or something they wanted. They want to
take the national team to that next level where where
we think we can achieve great things with this group.
So it's it's really promising to see.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
That's the voice of Ryan Thomas. Ahead of tomorrow night's
second matching the Soccer Ashes series, Susan says, why on
earth are we calling a soccer game the Ashes when
it's between New Zealand and Australia. England aren't play. Yeah.
The reason is is this goes back a long way.
When New Zealand and Australia first played a Means International
in Australia one hundred and three years ago, the opposing captains,
(34:13):
George Campbell and Alex Gibb shared a cigar. Afterwards, they
kept the ashes of those cigar of those cigars, stored
them in a little case and that was played for
between the New Zealand and Australian football teams for years now.
The little casket got lost for a while seventy years.
In fact, it was found again a couple of years ago,
and now the soccer ashes has been resurrected, so it's
(34:36):
not a rip off of the cricket, it's its own ashes,
the cigar rashes of the inaugural captains of.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
The two sides.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Good about to educate you on that season and everybody
else who's asking why are they calling it the ashes?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
That is why? Coming up quarter to eight Pinty's Power
rankings coming up right after this snour rankings.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, Monday nights when we rake the weekend and the best,
the worst, and the in between bits from the last
twenty four to forty eight hours. Ten is the baseball
fan who's been nicknamed Phillies Karen demanding a ball thrown
into the crowd be given to her instead of the
boy that was thrown to.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
A little infighting here.
Speaker 10 (35:19):
You know, he did give it who I would assume
is his son.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Okay, did give it to the youngster that this lead.
He's got to get it under control.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Ugh, what is going on? That is weird?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
They thoroughly embarrassing incident that, regardless of whose fault, shows
the worst of humanity. Nine the woeful Newcastle Knights completely
rolling over in their final game of the NRL season
to well and truly earn the Wooden Spoon.
Speaker 11 (35:56):
At full time they've taken down the Newcastle Knights have
had of them the Wooden Spoon.
Speaker 14 (36:02):
Paramatta have beaten.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
The Knights sixty six points to tip.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I guess there's always next season for Andy McDonald's Newcastle Knight.
Eight is the nonsensical scheduling of the NRL Finals, The
Warriors clashing with the All Blacks on Saturday night, a
situation the Warriors had a great solution to avoid.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Ideally, it would have been better effort. Just had two
hours to ourselves and then two hours for the for
the All Blacks, and that all the all the sports
fans and people in this country watch it.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Far too sensible, Far too sensible, Cam George, get your
two screens ready for Saturday. The Warriors themselves, even if
it all went down hill after this, they've earned a
spot by what they did after nine seconds, So Day
two of around twenty seven underway on Fox League Hour, would.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Have bounced it up absolutely. Oh falls mad, I don't
believe this.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
You are kidding me.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
That didn't happen.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Yes it did.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
We have seen a first.
Speaker 10 (37:04):
It has to be.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
James Sosha Harris after nine seconds scoring the tries six.
Pittsburgh quarterback Aaron Rodgers with some fighting words after defeating
his former team, the Jets.
Speaker 12 (37:16):
I was happy to beat everybody associated with the Jets.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Not a lot of gray area there.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Five into the top five, where we find the Wallabies
down by three points to Argentina with time running out.
They were rewarded a penalty and faced with a choice.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
We need to find it.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
And now what do you too, Michael Hooper? How much
does a draw give you? Leading into the Rugby Championship?
Whither going all in? And the outcome of that great decision?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
They hit the Jackies waiting to solve their victory for
courage over caution.
Speaker 9 (38:04):
Four for a sport.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Rugby commentator Jeff mctainsch.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
The more observant rugby viewers would have heard him commentating
the ran Furley Shield match on Saturday afternoon, closing it
on fifteen hour Canterbury and the party maybe underway christ
Church and then ninety minutes later he was calling the
All Blacks.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
The next chapter in the.
Speaker 9 (38:24):
Great Rivalry is underwave.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
At Eton Park.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
An absolutely heroic effort to answer a late SOS call
and rush to Eden Park for the biggest test of
the year.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
And what a job he did.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Three Canterbury are at three, claiming the Ranfurley Shield in
emphatic fashion.
Speaker 16 (38:40):
Emphatic Channabury have won the ran Philly Shield.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
They've come to Rugby Parking.
Speaker 14 (38:47):
Then Chicago Channabury win the Ranfilly Shield for the seventeenth time,
the third holder in three weeks.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Can Tasman take it to four from four this coming weekend.
Two the Black Ferns smashing Ireland in their final pull
match at the Rugby World Cup this morning.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Let Dinger leaking up on.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
The outside, Sarrenson McKee, Georgia Miller trying to get on
the outside.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Oh, fall back and field?
Speaker 9 (39:12):
What have we just seen?
Speaker 5 (39:15):
What are the tries of the world?
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Job really kicking in together?
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Black Ferns just in time for the knockout stages where
they'll meet South Africa in the quarter finals.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
But they're not number one.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
That has to be the All Blacks defending Eden Park
in what will go down as an all time rugby classic.
Speaker 10 (39:34):
Beck for Preston turn Mackenzie into.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
The stands and the All Blacks defend.
Speaker 16 (39:40):
The Fortress twenty four seventeen and at all time test
match between these two.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Nations, at least some the Newcastle Knights were in bottom. Yeah,
thanks Fining. This is very nice of you.
Speaker 16 (40:03):
You know, I think this Australian results.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
After doing a day of.
Speaker 16 (40:07):
Talkback where we mostly actually agreed we would have taken
a drawer shows how meek and cowardly we all are. Gutsy,
good on the may good on them, good on them,
and I worked out it's a difference a draw versus
a losing bonus point.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
It's a difference between one point, so I may as
well go for it.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Why not so good to see, Good to see from
the Wallamies. Those are Piney's power rankings. They're back next
Monday night. They're coming up four to eight. That is
pretty much us on Sports Talk for tonight. We're back
on weekend Sport this coming Saturday. Darcy Watergrave has Sports
Talk for the rest.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Of this week.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Piney says, Mars, I know you watch multiple screens on
sport and I don't know how you do it, because
you aren't invested in one game. You built different. You
must I Yeah, it's a good point you make. But
I think what you do is you find the game
that you are most invested in. That's your big screen.
Everything else's secondary. You know, the two screens aren't the
(41:02):
same size. For me, I've got my big screen, my
number one screen, and then an auxiliary screen, a second screen,
a slightly less important screen, and they might change. In fact,
they have changed on occasion. I've flip them. Yeah, but
I just can't do I can't do replayed sport. I
just can't do it, unfortunately, But that's just me. Marcus
(41:25):
lash is on your radio after eight o'clock to take
you through the rest of this Monday. As I say,
we're back on weekend Sport this coming Saturday, coming to
you live from Shed twenty two and Wellington Building towards
that second All Black South Africa test later on that
night at Sky Stadium.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
We're also trying to keep our eyes on the Warriors.
Of course. Have a good night. See us had date.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
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