September 22, 2025 • 42 mins
Jason Pine returns to recap a full day in the world of sport! Highlights for tonight include:
Toyota Racing series founder Barrie Thomlinson on Liam Lawson's fifth place effort in Azerbaijan.
Athletics NZ CEO Cam Mitchell on New Zealand's performance at the World Athletics Champs in Tokyo
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(00:45):
Liam Mawson has notched his career best Formula one finish
and there.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Is no change in this battle Behind Liam Lawson will
be fifth behind Kimmy and.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Today here the Kimi rookie has driven brilliantly to come
home fifth at the Azerbaijah Grand Prix. Motorsport analyst Barry
Tomlinson on the significance of the shortly and how much
it helps Liam as he looks to retain his seat
in the Red Bull Slash Racing Balls stable next year.
Motor racing fans your chance as well to give us
(01:19):
your assessment tonight on Liam's development, how big a top
five finish is at this stage of his F one career.
Also tonight, we've just had our best ever World track
and Field Championship three medals including two golds in Tokyo Athletics,
New Zealand CEO Cam Mitchell going to join us for
a chat through that, and the All Blacks have assembled
(01:40):
ahead of the final two rounds of the Rugby Championship
two let Us Low Cup tests Eden Park this Saturday
the Optis Stadium in Perth. A week later. Some thoughts
from head coach Scott robertson as we look to rebound
or they do from their worst ever Test defeat last
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Speaker 2 (02:23):
Edb Liam Lawson might not have been able to finish
on the podium at the Azerbaijean Grand Prix but the
key We drove a great race to finish fifth and
claim another career best result in Formula One, having qualified
third on Saturday. The pace disadvantage of Liam Lawson's racing
balls car ultimately told over the course of fifty one
(02:45):
laps in Baku, as both Mercedes drivers were able to
get past them, but this was still, without question his
best performance in Formula One, as Liam Lawson was able
to defend that fifth placing from a host of faster cars.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
To have a P five is big for us, especially
in the championship right now. So yeah, massive, thanks to
the team. We've had a good Cow weekends. Happy to
come in with some points.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
It's the best Formula One result by a Kiwi driver
since Chris Aimon finished fifth as well at the nineteen
seventy six Spanish Grand Prix. Let's bring in founder of
the Toyota Racing Series which many of our top drivers,
including Liam Lawson, raced in, and astute Motorsport analyst Barry Tomlinson. Barry,
you actually knew the late Chris Amon pretty well. He'd
(03:30):
have had a smile on his face watching this, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Yeah, Hi Poney, Yes, yeah, no, Chris would be absolutely
wrapped the obviously one of New Zealand's most acclaimed Formula
One drivers back in the days. And yeah, he'd be
very very happy to witness that result for the Liam.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
What impressed you most about Liam's drive at Baku?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Actually over the last two or three four Grand Prix
this tenacity really, you know, he's proved that he can
take pressure on track, which you know he's had a
long though on his tail for many laps in Austria
and now the result this weekend again just some you know,
top quality drivers and cars, superior cars to you know,
(04:17):
the Racing Bulls. You'd have to say the Racing Bulls
car is is proving to be a very very handy
piece of gear. But no, look he's just he's he
can take that pressure and actually form of ones all
about pressure.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
What is the strategy? What is his strategy when he's there,
he's holding on to fifth place, He's got Sonoda breathing
down his neck, Norris is there, Hamilton is there, Leclair
is there? What is the strategy in situations like that
when he's got a defend fifth place for quite a
significant length of time.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Yeah, look he you know obviously, yes it was quite
a few laps that he had to defend, and you know,
really he he was eyes forward more than eyes in
the rear vision Murray, you could tell, you know, with
the lines he was using, he was still you know,
he wasn't trying to defend the corners. I mean, odd
time he had to defend when the DRS was on
him with the cars behind, but he was very much
(05:11):
eyes forward, driving good lines and you know, focusing on
his breaking and actually, you know, the traction out of
the corners I think you know, it was pretty telling
actually the racing Bulls car with Liam at the wheel,
the traction out of all those lower corners was actually outstanding.
And you probably noted that, you know, the last couple
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of corners, particularly the last one onto the big long straightaway,
which was obviously where DRS came into action. His traction
and the driver ability out of that corner was very
very good, even with the tires that were going off.
You know, it was quite impressive driving.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Isaac had y at the moment. I know, the finishing
positions today would say yes. But in general terms, Barry,
do you think he's at least the equal of, not
better than Isaac Hadyar.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
At the moment very subjective. Look, honestly, I think both
drivers are superb, and you know it's got to be
wrecked reognize that. You know, they talk about Isaac being
in a rookie and yes he is, but so is Liam.
I mean, Liam's an absolute rookie too, and I think
the pair of them, they're just what they're doing is pushing,
pushing each other, which is everything you need in from
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one you need two drivers pushing each other to the
very very best. And you know you can see that
with the results. I mean, Isaac is getting great results
and now Liam has really stepped up, and you know
he's doing a great job. So look, it's hard to
make comparisons, and I think it's wrong to make comparisons.
The team have all the data in the world that
they can look at those that sort of information, but
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at the moment, you know, as an outsider standing on
the site, I think, you know, all we can say
is that there are two very very strong young drivers
that are you know, they're looking like both of them
will have careers in Formula one.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Obviously, you never like to lose great position once you
get to the chicken flag. But was that much Liam
could have done differently to hold off the two Mercedes
or not.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
No, Look, you know those sort of things get in
any you can reflect back on it. You know, could
he have gone longer on that first set of tires?
And you know, obviously Antonelli was was you know, made
an earlier pit stop. You know, Racing Bulls decided that
they'd have to cover off Antonelli and that's why I
guess Liam came in that little bit earlier. You know,
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in hindsight, maybe he could have gone longer on that
first set of tires, which would have given a better
track position. But you know, honestly, you know, to finish
fifth as an outstanding result. And I think, you know,
if truth be known, I mean they probably we were thinking, well,
you know, top seven, you know, would have been an
excellent result, and I think, you know, to finish fifth
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was just outstanding. Actually, Piny, it seems.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
To still be a bit of chat around Liam's future
with the Red Bull Racing Bulls Stable. Even when he
was battling with Sonoda, there was you know, periods of
commentary where they were talking about the two of them
battling it out for perhaps their formula one futures. I mean,
is that real? And if it is, how how important
would this morning have been?
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Well, look, the result this morning was very important. You
know I've always said to the drive many drivers that
I've worked with over many years, is that you know,
it's about It's just like being in the stock market
being a ration driver. You know, if you can, if
you can get those results, you increase the stock price.
And you know this morning Liam's stock price got a
fair bit stronger. And you know, I think this is
the this is the thing that Red Bull when we
(08:29):
look at look that they always put pressure on the
young drivers, you know, to perform, and they will never ever,
I guess, confirm the drivers early. They'll they'll just make them,
put them under pressure, because that's what it's for. The
one is all about. And you know to say, you know,
you know Liam Sonoda, They're all They're all you know,
(08:50):
under review. And you know Liam's just got to keep
eyes forward, keep moving forward, keep getting results, and you know,
I think his stock price will continue to grow.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Indeed, we know over Stepan is going to be there
next year. What what's your best gys Sperry? Well, is
there a scenario under which Isaac had you takes the
other red ball seat. What's the story with Sonoda? Is
Liam most likely to be in the racing ball again
or is it just too early to tell? Are we
just spitballing here?
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yeah, look, I think it's too early to tell. But
you know, honestly, you know, if Liam was to prove
in the next I think what I ate grand Prix
to go if he came out and you know, got
good result after good result. Look, you know, there's no telling.
I mean, it may well be that, you know, Liam
steps back into the red ball, never discount that, But
right now I think, you know, it's about getting there result,
(09:39):
just continuing to get good results and doing solid job,
and then after that he'll be, you know, he'll be
the thing will be reviewed and you know, his contract
will be signed sooner than later if his results continue
to be strong.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And I guess there's no surprise that he's showing improvement
in a number of areas, not just in his finishing positions,
but in his consistency and picking up points and just
the way he drives the car. It does actually take
a while to get used to these cars.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
Doesn't it.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yeah, absolutely, And you know I think, you know, the
thing that we don't see standing on the sidelines is
just what's going on inside the car. You know that
the team, you know that they would have talked him
through that race this morning. You know the way that
you know that he that he had made sure he
had enough battery pack to be able to defend. All
(10:26):
of that information is coming on the steering wheel, is
coming from the team and you know it's it's there's
a lot going on. And again I think you know
what Liam did this morning, and he did the same
in Austria again with Alonso on the back of him.
You know, it was just take that pressure and actually
just eyes forward and get that result at the end
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of the race.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeap, very very impressive in date. So on to Singapore
in a couple of weeks, Barry, always appreciate your anelysis.
Thanks for taking the time tonight.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, and just don't forget you know, Singapore. Liam was there,
you know, and you know was very very good last year.
So I think, you know, we can really look forward
to that Grand Prix pin it.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, look forward to indeed, Barry, thanks and need for
your time. Barry. Tomlinson there Toyota Racing series founder. Liam
used to race in that series and a very astute
analyst of motor racing, as you can hear from our
chat Formula one fans. Give us your reaction now it
educate us perhaps, oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
How should we regard this? I feel as though we
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should regard it pretty highly. For a guy in his
first full Formula One season to defend his position in
the way Liam Lawson did this morning for a significant
portion of that race was utterly impressive. To now be
consistently picking up points, to be getting better all the time,
to be showing constant improvement. He's doing everything asked of him,
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isn't he?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Liam?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
If he carries on like this and there's nothing to
suggest that he won't, he must be. Must be a
very very good chance of having a contract put in
front of him for twenty twenty six, mustn't he? Look?
I'm not sure when these things are typically sorted out,
whether the powers that be have seen enough and they're
getting the paperwork done, or if they keep the pressure
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on the likes of Liam and Isaac Hadjar and Yuki
Sonoda and keep them on their toes to make sure
they don't button off. During the last eight races eight
to ten races of twenty twenty five, there are four seats,
two in red Ball two and Racing Balls. Maxvstappan has
one of the Red Bull seats. Will it be beyond
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the realms of possibility that the status quo remains for
next year, that Yuki Sonoda takes the number two seat
for red Ball and that Hadja and Liam Lawson remain
in Racing Balls. I remember hearing and a few callers
might have even said this that Yuki Sonoda was thinking
about a change of team, a change of engine manufacturer
(12:59):
or something like that. But I just did some reading
before I came on air, and it seems as though
he's very keen to retain the second Red Bull seat.
And why wouldn't you if you can get the hang
of it, And look, he's what are you finished this morning? Sixth?
(13:19):
That's getting the hang of it, isn't it finishing?
Speaker 7 (13:22):
Sixth?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
If he the more he drives that car, the more
he'll be comfortable in it. So if Uki Sonoda is
keen to stay, then surely they'd be keen for him
to stay. If he keeps picking up points, he's had
a pretty wretched time of things since taking over from
Liam Lawson after two races at the start of the
egg Jeae. That seems an age you go now, doesn't it?
But you know they might look at him asy. Okay,
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we've had a year or best part of a year
go around again. Are there other people in this conversation? Oh,
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Speaker 6 (14:03):
You need for bedmo. We've got the breakdown.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Sports Talk call Oh eight hundred eighty News TALKSB.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
News TALKSB in sports Talk seven twenty four. Angus has
texted it now Angus. You might remember Angus. He was
a bit of a correspondent for US both at sale
GP and also at F one. Get a Piney. He texts,
good to be back. Monza was an awesome race, a
nice interview with Barry. I think it's very positive. What
a result for Liam. I don't think there's much more
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he could have done. The Mercedes was in good race trooms,
so it wouldn't be too concerned. They got passed by them.
I don't think Liam's driving got the same coverage in
the international media, so thanks for covering it. One thing
I don't think has been covered well in the Formula
one media is Liam's mindset change, especially in the last
few races, something he's been working on and I believe
(14:53):
it's starting to show. Thanks Angus. Great to hear from you, eight,
Great to have you back. Liam Lawson himself spoke to
Formula one TV after the race today. He was asked
about the second half of the race with some quality
drivers on his tail and what that was like.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
It wasn't fun, honestly, but yeah, it's a great result
I think obviously for the team coming into this weekend,
if you told us we'd finish in the top five,
it's it would have been a great result. Obviously, starting third,
part of you always hopes that you can you can
try and stay there, and obviously I would have loved
to do that today, but we just didn't have the
speed and I really tried gave it everything, and especially
(15:30):
in those last fifteen laps so to keep those guys behind.
Speaker 8 (15:34):
You also had a battle with Antonelli at one point
as well. You really had to switch those hard tires
on quickly, and these cooler temperatures took us through that.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
It's a shame because we switched them on and I
had enough gap to them, but I ran out of
energy and got halfway down the straight and and just
ran out. So it's something I learned from and made
sure that it didn't happen later on in the race
when I had the train of cars behind me. But
I think, honestly, anyway, I don't think we would have
had the speed to geven behind for thirty laps. I
think that stint was so yeah, it's frustrating, but it's
(16:06):
still a good result.
Speaker 9 (16:07):
With that many cars out of position. I think a
lot of people were expecting more cars like the Frari's,
like the McClaren to kind of make more progress. But
to that first stint, that first half of the race
you were holding position up there were you kind of
surprised that you were able to maintain that track position
that far into the race.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I think it's something you're trying to judge, Like at
the start, I was trying to see how much pace
we actually had. I'm trying to work out whether we
were going to be able to stay there or not.
I think you can. You can gauge it quite early on,
and there was a part at the start where I
thought maybe we were going to be okay, but it
was just as everything started to dig off and we
had quite low downforce on the car today, which helped
us in sector three, but I think it just hurt
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the ties a little bit. And yeah, it's I realized
pretty quickly that we probably weren't gonna have the pace
to keep some of those guys behind, but try and
keep as much as I could.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
Yeah, I think something that was really interesting to see was,
as you said, you were really trimmed, but it seems
like you had really good drive all day, like you could.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Come off the corner.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
You were never a state wet. It just like it
looked in control that it was really good. You were
never really defending.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yeah, it was always honestly, and at this kind of
circuit as well, it's more just energy management, trying to
use it in the right places and make sure that
you have enough down the streets because it makes a
massive difference, and it's something that's on a track like
this with such a long straight you know, you can
use quite a lot of that cast re section to
just save little bits of throttle and energy and also
holds the tires and then you have a bit more drive.
(17:31):
And it's been something that has saved us this weekend,
especially today. Turn sixteen coming off the corner has always
been good. It was good and qualifying at something I
don't even know why, but especially with our low downforce,
it's surprising, but it helped us today.
Speaker 8 (17:44):
JPM makes it sound so simple. You didn't even really
have to defend, I'm sure, and I.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
Was really good to see you just didn't put a
foot wrong today, and I think that everybody needs to
appreciate that.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
They're the best kind of drives right where it looks
so easy looking at it and watching it, and actually
I'd imagine you were working exceptionally hard within it. And
how much did you need this todaily as well? Because
there's a lot of chatter around the racing bull seats
your future for next season, where that's going to fall.
What can you tell us?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I have no idea, to be honest, but it's a
good result and I think, honestly, for me, it's every
time I get in the race car, I train, do
the best I can and I'm not going to get
it right every time, but I think, you know, I've
learned a lot this year and got a lot more
comfortable through the air as well. So yeah, it's something
that's I try not to think about too much. It's
not up to me at the end of the day anyway,
(18:34):
So you know, for me, I'm just focused on trying
to deliver each time I get in the race car.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
It's Liam Lawson. Well, if he's concerned about it, he
doesn't sound like he is, does he. You know, like
he said, it's not out of his hands. All he
can do is the best he can do texta or
I've read that there's a young Formula two driver that
read Ball and racing Ball want to take on next year.
Hence the Yuki Liam rivalry. Yuki has a very wealthy sponsor,
which is part of the reason he got the red
(18:59):
Bull seat off Liam. Yeah, I mean there's more to
it than just how fast you drive the car, right,
There's everything else that comes into it. But well, all
Limb can do is drive the remaining races in twenty
twenty five as well as he can, and that's the
promising bit. At the start of the season, even once
he moved to racing ball, it just seemed that something
(19:19):
went wrong, bad luck or equipment or a small era
he made or his teammatee. But now those seem to
be Those days seem to be in the past, and
every time he races now he seems to put in
a very solid showing. Singapore is next, and as Barry
Tomlinson said, Liam raced very well at Singapore last year.
Then the United States, Mexico, Brazil, Las Vegas, Katta and
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Abu Dhabi. Those are the remaining Grand Prix this year.
So it's hope Limb can continue along this track of
his and continue to do good things. We'll keep eyes
on him. Just coming up seven twenty nine, New Zealand
have finished equal fifth on the medal table at the
World Athletics Championships in Tokyo. Two golds in a bronze.
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Hamish kurt with a high jump gold met he she
took bronze on the women's shot put and of course
Jordy Beamish with a memorable win in the three thousand
meters steeple chase.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
Here comes Tony Beavish, Albert Tormy over that last barrier.
Speaker 11 (20:18):
Watch the Kiwi he finishes safe correctly, how.
Speaker 10 (20:21):
He's coming, He's closing this side fla side and this
time it.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Goes to t mes.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Incredible as well as that. Tom Walsh was fourth in
the men's shot put, throwing the season's best twenty one
point nine to four meters. There were three kiwi's Eliza McCartney,
Olivia mctaggett and Emma Generis in the women's pole vault final,
Olivia McTaggart finishing eighth, Zoey Hobbs just missing the final
of the women's one hundred meters but finished with a
ranking of twelfth in the world. Tory Morby was seventh
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in the women's javelin final, and Conne Bell last night
was tenth in the men's discus finals. So quite the list.
Athletics New Zealand CEO as Cam Mitchell. He's just got
back from Tokyo having watched it all unfold, Cam, these
were our best ever World champ How pleased are you
with how things played out in the last week or
so in Tokyo.
Speaker 12 (21:11):
It's hard to be that intro, Isn't it amazing? Yeah? No,
it looks at been incredible couple of weeks for us.
Up in Tokyo, and yeah, it's just been amazing what
the athletes have done. I guess just shows the depth
that we know that we've sort of talked about, but
we've been able to sort of put them into some
real performances where it matters at the World Champs. So
very exciting time for us.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Did you go up there with optimism?
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (21:33):
Always, I mean we're always pretty optimistic. I think is
a country, aren't we But to have that level of
success has just been amazing. So, you know, it's so
competitive global athletics, and we know we've got a whole
lot of good athletes and you sort of think, well, look,
can we get one or two, But to have the
level of success nine athletes and finals Zoe twelfth in
the world with herd time and many other really good performances.
(21:55):
Even someone like a less not Bit's only twenty came
sixteenth in the world. So yeah, lots of really promising results.
You know, we're sort of three years away from LA
that's really the critical metric for us with HBS and
ZED funding. But to see the tracking at the stage
of that of the cycle, is it really impressive.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Hamus Kerr of course won Olympic gold last year. Mad
He wishy silver at the Olympics in Paris, So I
guess they were always going to be in the mix,
but did you expect what you saw from Jordy Beamish
to happen?
Speaker 12 (22:23):
Look, Jordie's a massive talent. We obviously saw his World
indoor campaign. Unfortunately had a pretty disruptive Olympics with injury,
and he's actually been injured all the way through. So
he certainly got it in him and we've seen that
and what he's delivered. I think he was really the
headline story for the whole Games if we're being honest
with the fact that he sort of got knocked down
and spiked to the face, got up and sort of
(22:45):
showed that resilience to get himself to the final end
to win the way he did. So he was very
much the talk of Tokyo for sure, but the talented
athlete and just delighted he's been able to deliver a
second World Championship title for him. So hopefully if he
can stay fit, you know, he has a real chance
in LA for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
There's nothing quite like that black single coming down the
home straighter, is there? Look, I know we've had great
success in the field events as well. But watching that
black singlet in the middle distance races coming down the
home straight, there's something just a bit special about it,
isn't there.
Speaker 9 (23:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (23:15):
Well, it's a great history is and I think people
still remember the golden era that New Zealand athletics have
had and I think look the Black Singler association with
the All Blacks in Japan. We had a lot of
support you know, out in Japan for our for our athletes,
which is awesome to see.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
It also looks.
Speaker 12 (23:30):
Pretty good sprinting mate when Zoe's running down as well.
So you know, I think, as I said, just just
amazing results across the board for everybody that was out there.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Of course, you administer athletics right across the New Zealand
from grassroots up to elite. How important are results at
elite level to the overall health of the sport of
athletics here.
Speaker 12 (23:51):
Yeah, look, it's critical a number of ways. I mean,
you know, clearly people still have that connection and aspire
to want to see people that they can believe that
they can become, so that that participation element is quite important.
And then you've got the whole commercial piece. You know
you and I've chat about this before, but we've still
got a lot of work to do to raise the
profile of our sport. You know, we want to be
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back and seen as a Tier one sport. We've got
to really think about how we.
Speaker 13 (24:15):
Can do that.
Speaker 12 (24:15):
So what's happened in the last couple of weeks because
it's a really good opportunity to continue a lot of
the dialogue that we've been having to make sure that
we're around the table and we're being thought about when
companies are thinking about where they spend in marketing. Does
you know we need to get more investment into our
sport and if we can do that, then what we
can achieve is quite significant because we're already starting to
(24:35):
see that with these results. But if we had a
bit more investment, a bit more profile than that participation
base that you talk of, will pull throw. Athletics is
still a massive sport in the fundamental skill movement space
and in college you know a lot of people that
are still participating in track and field and cross country,
so you know, there's a lot of good things going on,
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but that investment for us is really really critical as
well as raising that profile.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
And you mentioned high performance funding there as well. Cam,
how much the results like this help in your discussions
around and high performance funding.
Speaker 12 (25:08):
Yeah, look, important marker at two levels. So we've got
certain sort of metrics that we've got to hit along
the lines towards LA. We've got clear targets for LA.
You know, we did very well in Paris and I
guess both in the Paralympics space but also in the
Olympics itself with the med as you mentioned before, So
that's really positive and we've got to keep those trends
(25:28):
tracking that way so that we keep the investment there.
The other critical thing is for the athletes themselves. So
if you look at Tori for example, you know she's
just finished seventh in the world. She dropped out of
the tap cycle last time due to results, so now
she's back in the framework for having those sorts of
positive conversations. So yeah, it's important for us to support
the athletes, but also for the athletes themselves to be
(25:51):
in the mix so that they've actually got some ability
to generate and come to help support their training and
their programs that they undertake to get them to the
start line.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
If we go to grassroots again, Cam, you and I
have spoken about this topic as well, and that athletics
has often been a sport that people do alongside what
might be their main sport. They might play rugby, football, hockey,
whatever it is in the winter and then track and
field in the summer, or they use it to supplement
their fitness. Is it important that more youngsters in particular
have track and field as their main sport or not?
Speaker 12 (26:22):
A Look, I'm personally pretty relaxed about that, to be honest.
I just think more people involved will either push those
that really want to progress through because they've got more
competition for longer. That's important. You know, if you've got
more people that start like when you're fourteen than what
you would have, even if some of those are dropping out,
that's going to make you a better athlete because you've
got that competition element for longer. So I'm personally pretty relaxed.
(26:43):
I think you do see people come in and out
of the sport at different times. If you look at
some of our athletes, you know, Hamishkur actually stopped jumping
for a couple of years and then came back into it.
Maddie Wish he picked it up pretty late, so you know,
there are different stories for different athletes. I think that's
one of the beauties of athletics, it is it's got
different entry entry points, so you know, it's maybe not
(27:04):
as linear as say a footballer that has to do
so many hours along the way or a gymnast for example. Yes,
there are some real technical elements to some of the
events themselves, but I think athletes can show that they
can come in and out now poll others. You know,
I think many of them didn't take that up till
they were sort of you know, early teams. So I
think that's one of the benefits of athletics is that
actually it is a sport. We've got that able space,
(27:27):
we've got the powers space, all different shapes and sizes,
and we just want people involved. And if more people involved,
we're going to be healthier. And then I think as
a byproduct of that, more people will probably pull through
the pathway and out the other side in terms of
these high performance athletes.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Indeed, just while I've got you, you'd previously expressed interest
in hosting the twenty twenty eight World Indoor Champs. Is
there any update on that.
Speaker 12 (27:49):
Challenging just facilities is a challenge with the World indoors.
We thought it would be a little bit easier to
sort of put a I guess a two hundred meter
track inside a stadium, but it's got real complication around
just a turf and the timing of year in March
with Super Rugby and Black Cats cricket and all those
other things. So that's a difficult one for us. But
(28:10):
we are still in real positive dialogue with Word Athletics
around events. I mean there's a whole host of different
events that they deliver through trail and mountain and running
on roads and the obviously all the tracking third elements too,
so we're still having conversation about, you know, what a
major global event could look like in New Zealand, but
in terms of the short track at the stage for
(28:32):
twenty eight, it's probably a bridge too far.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Really appreciate the update and congratulations on the success New
Zealand's had the World Track and Field Champs over the
last week to ten days. Cam, great to catch up,
Thanks for your time.
Speaker 12 (28:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
That is Cam Mitchell. He is the CEO of Athletics
New Zealand And has just got back from Tokyo where
we've enjoyed our best ever World Track and Field Championship,
Hamish kermaed He Wishy and Jordy Beamish all on the podium,
and a host of others making finals as well. So
looking good for the next Olympic CycL as we head
towards Los Angeles and twenty twenty eight. Of course, we've
(29:05):
got a Commonwealth Game next year which will have a
full track and field program, and then another World Championships
heading into the Olympics in twenty twenty eight. So some
of the names that we've seen prominent in the last
week to ten days in Tokyo may well be equally
so over the next three years of the next Olympic cycle.
Party's power ranking still to come this hour before we
(29:26):
close the show, but let's dip you into the All
Blacks camp they've assembled. Have the All Blacks ahead of
the Bledisloe Cup test at Eden Puck in Auckland on
Saturday night. This off the back, of course, of their
biggest ever defeat last time out against South Africa at
Sky Stadium. Scott Robertson did some media today. Has the
team been fueled by the lost to South Africa?
Speaker 14 (29:47):
Yeah, look, it's stun you know, it was really clear
We've discussed and reviewed and been honest as we possibly can.
You want to be stucking or use that fuel, you
know that those moments to fill your your disciplines and
you and your love for the game and your performance.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
But we'll use it.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Have they put some specific focus into finding consistency.
Speaker 14 (30:07):
No, we've looked at it from refined instructions as leading ship,
you know, timing plats coming on the field, probably just
coming out to executing what's required at that moment. It's
the biggest thing that we find what's the most important
thing then and we continue to practice during doing the
week and we're gonna have a shot this weekend.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
How has Scott Robertson personally dealt with the defeat?
Speaker 14 (30:26):
Personally, always reflect first on yourself what could I do?
And the coaching group, the management group, and then the
plas group. My job is to lead this team, so
I'd probably think more about them than myself. You know,
this is a lot of shareholders in our country that
we serve. Definitely let us know what they think, and
so they should. You know, we've talked about our jobs
(30:47):
to save our people and it's always been our focus.
So now we can do it again on Sourday.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Scott Robertson reported today that a quartet of players have
come back into selection contention at Cameroy Gad and Cortez Latimer,
a pair of half backs. Also Cody Taylor who missed
the South African Test and Wellington through concussion protocols, and
also patri To we p a lot to who we
haven't seen for quite some time. On cam Roygard, how
important is he to the All Blacks?
Speaker 14 (31:13):
Really important to us. I think he just shaded when
he came stow on the field the impact that he
can have. And it's good to get him back in
the mix. Game management, strong, you can kick and he's
got a hell of a pass, so he's right up there.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Back to consistency and finding it. How important is that the.
Speaker 14 (31:29):
Ultimate and any sporting team is to be consistent and
that's what you look for. You know, we played some
great rugby in the majority of the games, but not
enough and how can we win those little key moments
And that's where your focus goes to. And as I
said before, you don't want to be stung him to
use that as fuel again and that's how that's obviously
what we're we need to do. You know, we've got
a team, a balanced team that over the last eighteen
(31:51):
months a lot of guys that are coming and learning
test footy, trying to build combinations when you're under pressure perform,
so it's a balancing act when we're going to get right.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
A few more comments from Scott Robertson, including what he
needs from his forward pack in these next two test matches.
Speaker 14 (32:06):
There's a little bit of technical stuff around the gum
and also making sure we get that combination and get
the power back, you know, and obviously you don't become
scrums like that. It's not a big swing. It's obviously
a little detail things that you need to get right.
A couple of props out, a little bit more match
fit now got scumfit as well, which is huge for us.
And what do I focus on We're wanting to get
(32:26):
too broad on it, but how we can be better.
We know we've got a really good scrum and obviously
match with the lineup as well, the combination of the two.
I'm getting those right in at pressure moments.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
What's Scott Robertson's assessment of the Wallabes being in the
Rugby Championship.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
Wallabees are persistent.
Speaker 14 (32:40):
They really clear brand, they know the DNA, they know
they're going to have to play. They stay in the
game for the whole match. They've got a great blas
squad and well coached.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
As they look to prepare for the Wallabies game, how
deep do they dig into what happened in Wellington as
a base for that.
Speaker 14 (32:58):
Nearly two halves? You have to review. You know, we
went and we thought a couple of moments and we
got into the twenty two. Didn't quite execute a lineout
call or non call all there. We won't get into it,
but we didn't quite compute that scoreboard pressure. You know,
an intercept slapped down on the edge. If we'd have
probably gone in and put it with scoreboard pressure and
I've been a little bit different. They scored straight after
halftime of that company on here, so it's swung quite
(33:20):
quickly and what are we going to do after this swing?
So you look at those you know you've got to
be quite clear you don't want to board bush it.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
These are the moments how can we be better?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
And finally from Scott robertson tonight, what did he see
looking back at the tape of the game in Wellington.
That wasn't apparent to him during the live game.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Probably like at the time I was singing, here we go.
Speaker 14 (33:42):
You know, just a couple of moments they they've got
to be roll on on a couple of airbeddals. We've
got tight on d there we two passes, got us
on the edge and then balance and a pass and you.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Know just those little moments. Where did that go?
Speaker 14 (33:55):
And we tried to chase, to chase the game a
little bit and you get to stop and pause it
when you're at home here the commentary you need to
you get to feel a little bit more and you're
not making any decisions then uest you're watching and seeing
people's faces and it wasn't Yeah, that was what it was.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Those are some of the Monday musings of head coach
Scott Robertson in his media session today ahead of Saturday
nights Bledislow Cup test at Eden Park. We've got full
life commentary here on news talks headb don't forget it's
an early kickoff, or earlier than is usual five past
five kickoff. We have a five hour build up. I
thought we might as well give it a go. It
(34:34):
wasn't my decision, but I'm fully behind it. So from
midday until five we're building up to the game on
news talks. He'd b the first three hours at the
Kingslander in New North Road and then in the All
Blacks fan zone between three and five. Hope you can
join us either there or on the air sixteen away
from eight massys Piney, I hope Otago beating Canterbury is
(34:55):
at the top of your power rankings. Well, muss, you're
about to find out Piney's power rankings. On the other
side of.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
This our rankings stirring right time to right.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
The weekends Pinety's power rankings. We do them every Monday night.
The best, the worst and the in between. Bits from
the Sporting Weekend. The Breakers two defeats to open their
new Australian National Basketball League season over the weekends, and
Slaughtery of.
Speaker 15 (35:25):
New Zealand on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 10 (35:27):
One fourteen to eighty two.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
The final score Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
United's highest ever score.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
I gets the New Zealand rate.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Some works that do for the Breakers as they stall
at the start line. The Black Ferns at nine outclassed
by Canada in their Rugby World Cup semi finals.
Speaker 15 (35:44):
Hold them under dogs, call them duck horses, no way,
call them rocky. World Cup finalists, taman brilliant, ruthless, efficient.
Canada are going to the decider then into New Zealand's reign,
and it is so richly, richly deserved.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
So the Black Ferns now play off the third and
fourth withs on Sunday morning. See the Black Foils at eight.
A difficult sol gpraghetta off the coast of Geneva.
Speaker 13 (36:14):
Canada did have the right of way over the Black
Foils there, so that could then meet a penalty for
the Black Foils.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yes, there you go.
Speaker 13 (36:21):
That happened about thirty seconds ago. A positioning era very
very rare by New Zealand that could cost them a
place in this final though I'm sure of that unforced
era by the Black Foils. They're going to be kicking themselves.
This is going to be a massive loss of points
for them. They're going to need a minor miracle on
this final up win leg which I hope to get
to the finish Yet so.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
New Zealand finishing eighth in the Swiss event and dropping
to third on the season leaderboard. Seven the Silver Ferns
sitting aside the off court turmoil to comfortably beat South
Africa last night.
Speaker 10 (36:52):
Game over and the New Zealand have turned on a
Monday performance to begin the Tiny Jemerson twenty twenty five.
They have won verse tist of three by seventy seven
to fifty one.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Game on Wednesday Nights six the Panthers the Penrith Panthers
running all over the Bulldogs as they chase a fifth
straight NRL title.
Speaker 9 (37:16):
Very rapping throws a tubby gets it to top text.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
That gets filled path the Ladiesday.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Everybody gets a.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Try chili look on'm minas, don't they. The Panthers meet
the Broncos on Sunday for a place in the Grand
Final five into the top half. Nineteen year old Kiwi
power swimmer Gabby Smith winning silver in the one hundred
meter breastroke SB nine class on the opening day of
the Power World Champs in Singapore.
Speaker 15 (37:45):
Taking a lot to get here.
Speaker 12 (37:46):
It's been a while since one hundred Brest TV, so
I'm very happy with it and my coach at home
and I've.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Been working really really hard to get the pacing and
technique right.
Speaker 12 (37:54):
So very happy that I could get on a show.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Gabby Smith was sixth at the turn before storming home
to grab silver with a new personal best time. Hayden
wild Superman a fourth straight win in triathlon's T one
hundred series.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
He raises his finger in the air.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
This is going to be four wins in four.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Races for Hayden Wilds and the scary thing.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Is it's his debut season on the tea.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Went now utterly remarkable after the training excid untilier this year.
Hayden Whild cleaning up in Spain, beating his nearest rival
by more than two minutes. Free shot, what are many wishes?
At three, Bronze at the World Champs in Tokyo, a
brilliant Olympic silver last year.
Speaker 11 (38:36):
Tom Walsh will be wishing her well and that would
be the first throw over twenty meters and that is
a brilliant, brilliant leading throw.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
From Wishy and a new personal beast of twenty point
zero six meters two. William Lawson's at two with his
best ever result in Formula one.
Speaker 11 (38:55):
This is Leam Lawson, there's Yuki Sonoda. They're battling over
fifth and sixth, but it's so much more than that.
Liam Lawson, who was in the Red Ball at the
start of the year looking promising championship hopes. Ahead of
him demoted after just two races. Incomes Yuki Sonoda and
he hasn't been able to make it work either, but
(39:15):
they're both running inside the top six. They're both fighting
for their Formula One careers and there is.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
No change in this battle. Behind Liam Lawson will be fifth,
behind Kimmy ANTONEI.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Here fifth that Ezerbaijan with a composed drive around the
streets of bakouby eight. Number one then is, of course Otago,
new holders of the ren Philly Shield.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
Back to Bella.
Speaker 13 (39:44):
Otago have done.
Speaker 11 (39:46):
It, Otago, they went the Red Filly Shield for the
time of their history.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
What is your immediate feet Back on the power rankings tonight,
the judging panel really needs to be looked at because
it seems anytime the shoeld change his hands to anyone
else in the sporting world is just fighting for number
two at the moment. I know Canterbury didn't get number
one when they took it, though, Piney so kid to explain, No,
I don't really okay, I don't really care to explain that, Okay. Anyway,
(40:22):
we'll see. We'll see what the people of the fine
people of Canterbury say when next time you're in that region. Eh.
Otherwise you're not too bad, not too bad.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
You reckon.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
North Harbor will be at number one next Monday if
they want it. Based on the season they've had, they
can probably be number one for the rest of the year.
They need something good go in the way, don't they?
They do? Oh at eight, but who knows the shield.
There's been a funny old thing this year, hasn't it.
You wouldn't put it past North Harbor to go down
to Dunedin on Saturday and take it back up to
(40:52):
Albany with them. But yeah, I wouldn't be putting too
much on it. Piney's Power Rankings return next Monday night,
six and a half to eight News Talks here Be
and Sports Talk four Away from eight. Friend of mine
Nigel's messages me on Facebook Otago. Piney's Power Rankings nailed it,
Thank you, Nigel. Unfortunately, Wayne disagrees rubbish rankings. Bro says Wayne.
My Cranulla Sharks took out the Raiders by the way. No,
(41:14):
you did right, Wayne, No, probably should have included Cronulla.
I'll tell you what if Crinella make it to the
Grand Final next week, if they can find their way
into the decider by beating the Storm on Friday night,
I guarantee the Sharks a place in the power rankings.
Needs can't pre promise ranking spots Piney. That's not how
(41:34):
this works. I thought they were Piney's power rankings. I'm like,
I say, I'm gonna have to take over if you
keep up this ran fairly shield rubbish that's going on.
I'm just trying to keep Wayne happy, really seems but
put out that the Sharks aren't there. Simon says, awesome
race last night. Thrilled for Liam. Very little he could
have done more. P five is massive. He is in
(41:58):
a midfield team giving at the full jendle good on Youssimon,
thanks for listening in enjoy the rest of your week.
We will see you for a five hour build up
to the All Blacks on today starting at the Kingslander
New North Road. Thanks joining McDonald.
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(00:45):
Liam Mawson has notched his career best Formula one finish
and there.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Is no change in this battle Behind Liam Lawson will
be fifth behind Kimmy and.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Today here the Kimi rookie has driven brilliantly to come
home fifth at the Azerbaijah Grand Prix. Motorsport analyst Barry
Tomlinson on the significance of the shortly and how much
it helps Liam as he looks to retain his seat
in the Red Bull Slash Racing Balls stable next year.
Motor racing fans your chance as well to give us
(01:19):
your assessment tonight on Liam's development, how big a top
five finish is at this stage of his F one career.
Also tonight, we've just had our best ever World track
and Field Championship three medals including two golds in Tokyo Athletics,
New Zealand CEO Cam Mitchell going to join us for
a chat through that, and the All Blacks have assembled
(01:40):
ahead of the final two rounds of the Rugby Championship
two let Us Low Cup tests Eden Park this Saturday
the Optis Stadium in Perth. A week later. Some thoughts
from head coach Scott robertson as we look to rebound
or they do from their worst ever Test defeat last
time out, And as always on Monday nights, we rate
the weekend Pinty's Power rankings before we close the show
(02:01):
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Speaker 2 (02:23):
Edb Liam Lawson might not have been able to finish
on the podium at the Azerbaijean Grand Prix but the
key We drove a great race to finish fifth and
claim another career best result in Formula One, having qualified
third on Saturday. The pace disadvantage of Liam Lawson's racing
balls car ultimately told over the course of fifty one
(02:45):
laps in Baku, as both Mercedes drivers were able to
get past them, but this was still, without question his
best performance in Formula One, as Liam Lawson was able
to defend that fifth placing from a host of faster cars.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
To have a P five is big for us, especially
in the championship right now. So yeah, massive, thanks to
the team. We've had a good Cow weekends. Happy to
come in with some points.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
It's the best Formula One result by a Kiwi driver
since Chris Aimon finished fifth as well at the nineteen
seventy six Spanish Grand Prix. Let's bring in founder of
the Toyota Racing Series which many of our top drivers,
including Liam Lawson, raced in, and astute Motorsport analyst Barry Tomlinson. Barry,
you actually knew the late Chris Amon pretty well. He'd
(03:30):
have had a smile on his face watching this, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Yeah, Hi Poney, Yes, yeah, no, Chris would be absolutely
wrapped the obviously one of New Zealand's most acclaimed Formula
One drivers back in the days. And yeah, he'd be
very very happy to witness that result for the Liam.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
What impressed you most about Liam's drive at Baku?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Actually over the last two or three four Grand Prix
this tenacity really, you know, he's proved that he can
take pressure on track, which you know he's had a
long though on his tail for many laps in Austria
and now the result this weekend again just some you know,
top quality drivers and cars, superior cars to you know,
(04:17):
the Racing Bulls. You'd have to say the Racing Bulls
car is is proving to be a very very handy
piece of gear. But no, look he's just he's he
can take that pressure and actually form of ones all
about pressure.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
What is the strategy? What is his strategy when he's there,
he's holding on to fifth place, He's got Sonoda breathing
down his neck, Norris is there, Hamilton is there, Leclair
is there? What is the strategy in situations like that
when he's got a defend fifth place for quite a
significant length of time.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Yeah, look he you know obviously, yes it was quite
a few laps that he had to defend, and you know,
really he he was eyes forward more than eyes in
the rear vision Murray, you could tell, you know, with
the lines he was using, he was still you know,
he wasn't trying to defend the corners. I mean, odd
time he had to defend when the DRS was on
him with the cars behind, but he was very much
(05:11):
eyes forward, driving good lines and you know, focusing on
his breaking and actually, you know, the traction out of
the corners I think you know, it was pretty telling
actually the racing Bulls car with Liam at the wheel,
the traction out of all those lower corners was actually outstanding.
And you probably noted that, you know, the last couple
(05:32):
of corners, particularly the last one onto the big long straightaway,
which was obviously where DRS came into action. His traction
and the driver ability out of that corner was very
very good, even with the tires that were going off.
You know, it was quite impressive driving.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Isaac had y at the moment. I know, the finishing
positions today would say yes. But in general terms, Barry,
do you think he's at least the equal of, not
better than Isaac Hadyar.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
At the moment very subjective. Look, honestly, I think both
drivers are superb, and you know it's got to be
wrecked reognize that. You know, they talk about Isaac being
in a rookie and yes he is, but so is Liam.
I mean, Liam's an absolute rookie too, and I think
the pair of them, they're just what they're doing is pushing,
pushing each other, which is everything you need in from
(06:18):
one you need two drivers pushing each other to the
very very best. And you know you can see that
with the results. I mean, Isaac is getting great results
and now Liam has really stepped up, and you know
he's doing a great job. So look, it's hard to
make comparisons, and I think it's wrong to make comparisons.
The team have all the data in the world that
they can look at those that sort of information, but
(06:41):
at the moment, you know, as an outsider standing on
the site, I think, you know, all we can say
is that there are two very very strong young drivers
that are you know, they're looking like both of them
will have careers in Formula one.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Obviously, you never like to lose great position once you
get to the chicken flag. But was that much Liam
could have done differently to hold off the two Mercedes
or not.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
No, Look, you know those sort of things get in
any you can reflect back on it. You know, could
he have gone longer on that first set of tires?
And you know, obviously Antonelli was was you know, made
an earlier pit stop. You know, Racing Bulls decided that
they'd have to cover off Antonelli and that's why I
guess Liam came in that little bit earlier. You know,
(07:22):
in hindsight, maybe he could have gone longer on that
first set of tires, which would have given a better
track position. But you know, honestly, you know, to finish
fifth as an outstanding result. And I think, you know,
if truth be known, I mean they probably we were thinking, well,
you know, top seven, you know, would have been an
excellent result, and I think, you know, to finish fifth
(07:43):
was just outstanding. Actually, Piny, it seems.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
To still be a bit of chat around Liam's future
with the Red Bull Racing Bulls Stable. Even when he
was battling with Sonoda, there was you know, periods of
commentary where they were talking about the two of them
battling it out for perhaps their formula one futures. I mean,
is that real? And if it is, how how important
would this morning have been?
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Well, look, the result this morning was very important. You
know I've always said to the drive many drivers that
I've worked with over many years, is that you know,
it's about It's just like being in the stock market
being a ration driver. You know, if you can, if
you can get those results, you increase the stock price.
And you know this morning Liam's stock price got a
fair bit stronger. And you know, I think this is
the this is the thing that Red Bull when we
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look at look that they always put pressure on the
young drivers, you know, to perform, and they will never ever,
I guess, confirm the drivers early. They'll they'll just make them,
put them under pressure, because that's what it's for. The
one is all about. And you know to say, you know,
you know Liam Sonoda, They're all They're all you know,
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under review. And you know Liam's just got to keep
eyes forward, keep moving forward, keep getting results, and you know,
I think his stock price will continue to grow.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Indeed, we know over Stepan is going to be there
next year. What what's your best gys Sperry? Well, is
there a scenario under which Isaac had you takes the
other red ball seat. What's the story with Sonoda? Is
Liam most likely to be in the racing ball again
or is it just too early to tell? Are we
just spitballing here?
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yeah, look, I think it's too early to tell. But
you know, honestly, you know, if Liam was to prove
in the next I think what I ate grand Prix
to go if he came out and you know, got
good result after good result. Look, you know, there's no telling.
I mean, it may well be that, you know, Liam
steps back into the red ball, never discount that, But
right now I think, you know, it's about getting there result,
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just continuing to get good results and doing solid job,
and then after that he'll be, you know, he'll be
the thing will be reviewed and you know, his contract
will be signed sooner than later if his results continue
to be strong.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And I guess there's no surprise that he's showing improvement
in a number of areas, not just in his finishing positions,
but in his consistency and picking up points and just
the way he drives the car. It does actually take
a while to get used to these cars.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
Doesn't it.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yeah, absolutely, And you know I think, you know, the
thing that we don't see standing on the sidelines is
just what's going on inside the car. You know that
the team, you know that they would have talked him
through that race this morning. You know the way that
you know that he that he had made sure he
had enough battery pack to be able to defend. All
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of that information is coming on the steering wheel, is
coming from the team and you know it's it's there's
a lot going on. And again I think you know
what Liam did this morning, and he did the same
in Austria again with Alonso on the back of him.
You know, it was just take that pressure and actually
just eyes forward and get that result at the end
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of the race.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeap, very very impressive in date. So on to Singapore
in a couple of weeks, Barry, always appreciate your anelysis.
Thanks for taking the time tonight.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, and just don't forget you know, Singapore. Liam was there,
you know, and you know was very very good last year.
So I think, you know, we can really look forward
to that Grand Prix pin it.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, look forward to indeed, Barry, thanks and need for
your time. Barry. Tomlinson there Toyota Racing series founder. Liam
used to race in that series and a very astute
analyst of motor racing, as you can hear from our
chat Formula one fans. Give us your reaction now it
educate us perhaps, oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
How should we regard this? I feel as though we
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should regard it pretty highly. For a guy in his
first full Formula One season to defend his position in
the way Liam Lawson did this morning for a significant
portion of that race was utterly impressive. To now be
consistently picking up points, to be getting better all the time,
to be showing constant improvement. He's doing everything asked of him,
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isn't he?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Liam?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
If he carries on like this and there's nothing to
suggest that he won't, he must be. Must be a
very very good chance of having a contract put in
front of him for twenty twenty six, mustn't he? Look?
I'm not sure when these things are typically sorted out,
whether the powers that be have seen enough and they're
getting the paperwork done, or if they keep the pressure
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on the likes of Liam and Isaac Hadjar and Yuki
Sonoda and keep them on their toes to make sure
they don't button off. During the last eight races eight
to ten races of twenty twenty five, there are four seats,
two in red Ball two and Racing Balls. Maxvstappan has
one of the Red Bull seats. Will it be beyond
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the realms of possibility that the status quo remains for
next year, that Yuki Sonoda takes the number two seat
for red Ball and that Hadja and Liam Lawson remain
in Racing Balls. I remember hearing and a few callers
might have even said this that Yuki Sonoda was thinking
about a change of team, a change of engine manufacturer
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or something like that. But I just did some reading
before I came on air, and it seems as though
he's very keen to retain the second Red Bull seat.
And why wouldn't you if you can get the hang
of it, And look, he's what are you finished this morning? Sixth?
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That's getting the hang of it, isn't it finishing?
Speaker 7 (13:22):
Sixth?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
If he the more he drives that car, the more
he'll be comfortable in it. So if Uki Sonoda is
keen to stay, then surely they'd be keen for him
to stay. If he keeps picking up points, he's had
a pretty wretched time of things since taking over from
Liam Lawson after two races at the start of the
egg Jeae. That seems an age you go now, doesn't it?
But you know they might look at him asy. Okay,
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we've had a year or best part of a year
go around again. Are there other people in this conversation? Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty if you can enlighten
us nine two ninety two, if you would prefer to
send a text seven twenty one used talks EB. We're
back after this.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
You need for bedmo. We've got the breakdown.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Sports Talk call Oh eight hundred eighty News TALKSB.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
News TALKSB in sports Talk seven twenty four. Angus has
texted it now Angus. You might remember Angus. He was
a bit of a correspondent for US both at sale
GP and also at F one. Get a Piney. He texts,
good to be back. Monza was an awesome race, a
nice interview with Barry. I think it's very positive. What
a result for Liam. I don't think there's much more
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he could have done. The Mercedes was in good race trooms,
so it wouldn't be too concerned. They got passed by them.
I don't think Liam's driving got the same coverage in
the international media, so thanks for covering it. One thing
I don't think has been covered well in the Formula
one media is Liam's mindset change, especially in the last
few races, something he's been working on and I believe
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it's starting to show. Thanks Angus. Great to hear from you, eight,
Great to have you back. Liam Lawson himself spoke to
Formula one TV after the race today. He was asked
about the second half of the race with some quality
drivers on his tail and what that was like.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
It wasn't fun, honestly, but yeah, it's a great result
I think obviously for the team coming into this weekend,
if you told us we'd finish in the top five,
it's it would have been a great result. Obviously, starting third,
part of you always hopes that you can you can
try and stay there, and obviously I would have loved
to do that today, but we just didn't have the
speed and I really tried gave it everything, and especially
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in those last fifteen laps so to keep those guys behind.
Speaker 8 (15:34):
You also had a battle with Antonelli at one point
as well. You really had to switch those hard tires
on quickly, and these cooler temperatures took us through that.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
It's a shame because we switched them on and I
had enough gap to them, but I ran out of
energy and got halfway down the straight and and just
ran out. So it's something I learned from and made
sure that it didn't happen later on in the race
when I had the train of cars behind me. But
I think, honestly, anyway, I don't think we would have
had the speed to geven behind for thirty laps. I
think that stint was so yeah, it's frustrating, but it's
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still a good result.
Speaker 9 (16:07):
With that many cars out of position. I think a
lot of people were expecting more cars like the Frari's,
like the McClaren to kind of make more progress. But
to that first stint, that first half of the race
you were holding position up there were you kind of
surprised that you were able to maintain that track position
that far into the race.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I think it's something you're trying to judge, Like at
the start, I was trying to see how much pace
we actually had. I'm trying to work out whether we
were going to be able to stay there or not.
I think you can. You can gauge it quite early on,
and there was a part at the start where I
thought maybe we were going to be okay, but it
was just as everything started to dig off and we
had quite low downforce on the car today, which helped
us in sector three, but I think it just hurt
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the ties a little bit. And yeah, it's I realized
pretty quickly that we probably weren't gonna have the pace
to keep some of those guys behind, but try and
keep as much as I could.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
Yeah, I think something that was really interesting to see was,
as you said, you were really trimmed, but it seems
like you had really good drive all day, like you could.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Come off the corner.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
You were never a state wet. It just like it
looked in control that it was really good. You were
never really defending.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yeah, it was always honestly, and at this kind of
circuit as well, it's more just energy management, trying to
use it in the right places and make sure that
you have enough down the streets because it makes a
massive difference, and it's something that's on a track like
this with such a long straight you know, you can
use quite a lot of that cast re section to
just save little bits of throttle and energy and also
holds the tires and then you have a bit more drive.
(17:31):
And it's been something that has saved us this weekend,
especially today. Turn sixteen coming off the corner has always
been good. It was good and qualifying at something I
don't even know why, but especially with our low downforce,
it's surprising, but it helped us today.
Speaker 8 (17:44):
JPM makes it sound so simple. You didn't even really
have to defend, I'm sure, and I.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
Was really good to see you just didn't put a
foot wrong today, and I think that everybody needs to
appreciate that.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
They're the best kind of drives right where it looks
so easy looking at it and watching it, and actually
I'd imagine you were working exceptionally hard within it. And
how much did you need this todaily as well? Because
there's a lot of chatter around the racing bull seats
your future for next season, where that's going to fall.
What can you tell us?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I have no idea, to be honest, but it's a
good result and I think, honestly, for me, it's every
time I get in the race car, I train, do
the best I can and I'm not going to get
it right every time, but I think, you know, I've
learned a lot this year and got a lot more
comfortable through the air as well. So yeah, it's something
that's I try not to think about too much. It's
not up to me at the end of the day anyway,
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So you know, for me, I'm just focused on trying
to deliver each time I get in the race car.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
It's Liam Lawson. Well, if he's concerned about it, he
doesn't sound like he is, does he. You know, like
he said, it's not out of his hands. All he
can do is the best he can do texta or
I've read that there's a young Formula two driver that
read Ball and racing Ball want to take on next year.
Hence the Yuki Liam rivalry. Yuki has a very wealthy sponsor,
which is part of the reason he got the red
(18:59):
Bull seat off Liam. Yeah, I mean there's more to
it than just how fast you drive the car, right,
There's everything else that comes into it. But well, all
Limb can do is drive the remaining races in twenty
twenty five as well as he can, and that's the
promising bit. At the start of the season, even once
he moved to racing ball, it just seemed that something
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went wrong, bad luck or equipment or a small era
he made or his teammatee. But now those seem to
be Those days seem to be in the past, and
every time he races now he seems to put in
a very solid showing. Singapore is next, and as Barry
Tomlinson said, Liam raced very well at Singapore last year.
Then the United States, Mexico, Brazil, Las Vegas, Katta and
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Abu Dhabi. Those are the remaining Grand Prix this year.
So it's hope Limb can continue along this track of
his and continue to do good things. We'll keep eyes
on him. Just coming up seven twenty nine, New Zealand
have finished equal fifth on the medal table at the
World Athletics Championships in Tokyo. Two golds in a bronze.
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Hamish kurt with a high jump gold met he she
took bronze on the women's shot put and of course
Jordy Beamish with a memorable win in the three thousand
meters steeple chase.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
Here comes Tony Beavish, Albert Tormy over that last barrier.
Speaker 11 (20:18):
Watch the Kiwi he finishes safe correctly, how.
Speaker 10 (20:21):
He's coming, He's closing this side fla side and this
time it.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Goes to t mes.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Incredible as well as that. Tom Walsh was fourth in
the men's shot put, throwing the season's best twenty one
point nine to four meters. There were three kiwi's Eliza McCartney,
Olivia mctaggett and Emma Generis in the women's pole vault final,
Olivia McTaggart finishing eighth, Zoey Hobbs just missing the final
of the women's one hundred meters but finished with a
ranking of twelfth in the world. Tory Morby was seventh
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in the women's javelin final, and Conne Bell last night
was tenth in the men's discus finals. So quite the list.
Athletics New Zealand CEO as Cam Mitchell. He's just got
back from Tokyo having watched it all unfold, Cam, these
were our best ever World champ How pleased are you
with how things played out in the last week or
so in Tokyo.
Speaker 12 (21:11):
It's hard to be that intro, Isn't it amazing? Yeah? No,
it looks at been incredible couple of weeks for us.
Up in Tokyo, and yeah, it's just been amazing what
the athletes have done. I guess just shows the depth
that we know that we've sort of talked about, but
we've been able to sort of put them into some
real performances where it matters at the World Champs. So
very exciting time for us.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Did you go up there with optimism?
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (21:33):
Always, I mean we're always pretty optimistic. I think is
a country, aren't we But to have that level of
success has just been amazing. So, you know, it's so
competitive global athletics, and we know we've got a whole
lot of good athletes and you sort of think, well, look,
can we get one or two, But to have the
level of success nine athletes and finals Zoe twelfth in
the world with herd time and many other really good performances.
(21:55):
Even someone like a less not Bit's only twenty came
sixteenth in the world. So yeah, lots of really promising results.
You know, we're sort of three years away from LA
that's really the critical metric for us with HBS and
ZED funding. But to see the tracking at the stage
of that of the cycle, is it really impressive.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Hamus Kerr of course won Olympic gold last year. Mad
He wishy silver at the Olympics in Paris, So I
guess they were always going to be in the mix,
but did you expect what you saw from Jordy Beamish
to happen?
Speaker 12 (22:23):
Look, Jordie's a massive talent. We obviously saw his World
indoor campaign. Unfortunately had a pretty disruptive Olympics with injury,
and he's actually been injured all the way through. So
he certainly got it in him and we've seen that
and what he's delivered. I think he was really the
headline story for the whole Games if we're being honest
with the fact that he sort of got knocked down
and spiked to the face, got up and sort of
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showed that resilience to get himself to the final end
to win the way he did. So he was very
much the talk of Tokyo for sure, but the talented
athlete and just delighted he's been able to deliver a
second World Championship title for him. So hopefully if he
can stay fit, you know, he has a real chance
in LA for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
There's nothing quite like that black single coming down the
home straighter, is there? Look, I know we've had great
success in the field events as well. But watching that
black singlet in the middle distance races coming down the
home straight, there's something just a bit special about it,
isn't there.
Speaker 9 (23:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (23:15):
Well, it's a great history is and I think people
still remember the golden era that New Zealand athletics have
had and I think look the Black Singler association with
the All Blacks in Japan. We had a lot of
support you know, out in Japan for our for our athletes,
which is awesome to see.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
It also looks.
Speaker 12 (23:30):
Pretty good sprinting mate when Zoe's running down as well.
So you know, I think, as I said, just just
amazing results across the board for everybody that was out there.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Of course, you administer athletics right across the New Zealand
from grassroots up to elite. How important are results at
elite level to the overall health of the sport of
athletics here.
Speaker 12 (23:51):
Yeah, look, it's critical a number of ways. I mean,
you know, clearly people still have that connection and aspire
to want to see people that they can believe that
they can become, so that that participation element is quite important.
And then you've got the whole commercial piece. You know
you and I've chat about this before, but we've still
got a lot of work to do to raise the
profile of our sport. You know, we want to be
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back and seen as a Tier one sport. We've got
to really think about how we.
Speaker 13 (24:15):
Can do that.
Speaker 12 (24:15):
So what's happened in the last couple of weeks because
it's a really good opportunity to continue a lot of
the dialogue that we've been having to make sure that
we're around the table and we're being thought about when
companies are thinking about where they spend in marketing. Does
you know we need to get more investment into our
sport and if we can do that, then what we
can achieve is quite significant because we're already starting to
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see that with these results. But if we had a
bit more investment, a bit more profile than that participation
base that you talk of, will pull throw. Athletics is
still a massive sport in the fundamental skill movement space
and in college you know a lot of people that
are still participating in track and field and cross country,
so you know, there's a lot of good things going on,
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but that investment for us is really really critical as
well as raising that profile.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
And you mentioned high performance funding there as well. Cam,
how much the results like this help in your discussions
around and high performance funding.
Speaker 12 (25:08):
Yeah, look, important marker at two levels. So we've got
certain sort of metrics that we've got to hit along
the lines towards LA. We've got clear targets for LA.
You know, we did very well in Paris and I
guess both in the Paralympics space but also in the
Olympics itself with the med as you mentioned before, So
that's really positive and we've got to keep those trends
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tracking that way so that we keep the investment there.
The other critical thing is for the athletes themselves. So
if you look at Tori for example, you know she's
just finished seventh in the world. She dropped out of
the tap cycle last time due to results, so now
she's back in the framework for having those sorts of
positive conversations. So yeah, it's important for us to support
the athletes, but also for the athletes themselves to be
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in the mix so that they've actually got some ability
to generate and come to help support their training and
their programs that they undertake to get them to the
start line.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
If we go to grassroots again, Cam, you and I
have spoken about this topic as well, and that athletics
has often been a sport that people do alongside what
might be their main sport. They might play rugby, football, hockey,
whatever it is in the winter and then track and
field in the summer, or they use it to supplement
their fitness. Is it important that more youngsters in particular
have track and field as their main sport or not?
Speaker 12 (26:22):
A Look, I'm personally pretty relaxed about that, to be honest.
I just think more people involved will either push those
that really want to progress through because they've got more
competition for longer. That's important. You know, if you've got
more people that start like when you're fourteen than what
you would have, even if some of those are dropping out,
that's going to make you a better athlete because you've
got that competition element for longer. So I'm personally pretty relaxed.
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I think you do see people come in and out
of the sport at different times. If you look at
some of our athletes, you know, Hamishkur actually stopped jumping
for a couple of years and then came back into it.
Maddie Wish he picked it up pretty late, so you know,
there are different stories for different athletes. I think that's
one of the beauties of athletics, it is it's got
different entry entry points, so you know, it's maybe not
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as linear as say a footballer that has to do
so many hours along the way or a gymnast for example. Yes,
there are some real technical elements to some of the
events themselves, but I think athletes can show that they
can come in and out now poll others. You know,
I think many of them didn't take that up till
they were sort of you know, early teams. So I
think that's one of the benefits of athletics is that
actually it is a sport. We've got that able space,
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we've got the powers space, all different shapes and sizes,
and we just want people involved. And if more people involved,
we're going to be healthier. And then I think as
a byproduct of that, more people will probably pull through
the pathway and out the other side in terms of
these high performance athletes.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Indeed, just while I've got you, you'd previously expressed interest
in hosting the twenty twenty eight World Indoor Champs. Is
there any update on that.
Speaker 12 (27:49):
Challenging just facilities is a challenge with the World indoors.
We thought it would be a little bit easier to
sort of put a I guess a two hundred meter
track inside a stadium, but it's got real complication around
just a turf and the timing of year in March
with Super Rugby and Black Cats cricket and all those
other things. So that's a difficult one for us. But
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we are still in real positive dialogue with Word Athletics
around events. I mean there's a whole host of different
events that they deliver through trail and mountain and running
on roads and the obviously all the tracking third elements too,
so we're still having conversation about, you know, what a
major global event could look like in New Zealand, but
in terms of the short track at the stage for
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twenty eight, it's probably a bridge too far.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Really appreciate the update and congratulations on the success New
Zealand's had the World Track and Field Champs over the
last week to ten days. Cam, great to catch up,
Thanks for your time.
Speaker 12 (28:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
That is Cam Mitchell. He is the CEO of Athletics
New Zealand And has just got back from Tokyo where
we've enjoyed our best ever World Track and Field Championship,
Hamish kermaed He Wishy and Jordy Beamish all on the podium,
and a host of others making finals as well. So
looking good for the next Olympic CycL as we head
towards Los Angeles and twenty twenty eight. Of course, we've
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got a Commonwealth Game next year which will have a
full track and field program, and then another World Championships
heading into the Olympics in twenty twenty eight. So some
of the names that we've seen prominent in the last
week to ten days in Tokyo may well be equally
so over the next three years of the next Olympic cycle.
Party's power ranking still to come this hour before we
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close the show, but let's dip you into the All
Blacks camp they've assembled. Have the All Blacks ahead of
the Bledisloe Cup test at Eden Puck in Auckland on
Saturday night. This off the back, of course, of their
biggest ever defeat last time out against South Africa at
Sky Stadium. Scott Robertson did some media today. Has the
team been fueled by the lost to South Africa?
Speaker 14 (29:47):
Yeah, look, it's stun you know, it was really clear
We've discussed and reviewed and been honest as we possibly can.
You want to be stucking or use that fuel, you
know that those moments to fill your your disciplines and
you and your love for the game and your performance.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
But we'll use it.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Have they put some specific focus into finding consistency.
Speaker 14 (30:07):
No, we've looked at it from refined instructions as leading ship,
you know, timing plats coming on the field, probably just
coming out to executing what's required at that moment. It's
the biggest thing that we find what's the most important
thing then and we continue to practice during doing the
week and we're gonna have a shot this weekend.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
How has Scott Robertson personally dealt with the defeat?
Speaker 14 (30:26):
Personally, always reflect first on yourself what could I do?
And the coaching group, the management group, and then the
plas group. My job is to lead this team, so
I'd probably think more about them than myself. You know,
this is a lot of shareholders in our country that
we serve. Definitely let us know what they think, and
so they should. You know, we've talked about our jobs
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to save our people and it's always been our focus.
So now we can do it again on Sourday.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Scott Robertson reported today that a quartet of players have
come back into selection contention at Cameroy Gad and Cortez Latimer,
a pair of half backs. Also Cody Taylor who missed
the South African Test and Wellington through concussion protocols, and
also patri To we p a lot to who we
haven't seen for quite some time. On cam Roygard, how
important is he to the All Blacks?
Speaker 14 (31:13):
Really important to us. I think he just shaded when
he came stow on the field the impact that he
can have. And it's good to get him back in
the mix. Game management, strong, you can kick and he's
got a hell of a pass, so he's right up there.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Back to consistency and finding it. How important is that the.
Speaker 14 (31:29):
Ultimate and any sporting team is to be consistent and
that's what you look for. You know, we played some
great rugby in the majority of the games, but not
enough and how can we win those little key moments
And that's where your focus goes to. And as I
said before, you don't want to be stung him to
use that as fuel again and that's how that's obviously
what we're we need to do. You know, we've got
a team, a balanced team that over the last eighteen
(31:51):
months a lot of guys that are coming and learning
test footy, trying to build combinations when you're under pressure perform,
so it's a balancing act when we're going to get right.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
A few more comments from Scott Robertson, including what he
needs from his forward pack in these next two test matches.
Speaker 14 (32:06):
There's a little bit of technical stuff around the gum
and also making sure we get that combination and get
the power back, you know, and obviously you don't become
scrums like that. It's not a big swing. It's obviously
a little detail things that you need to get right.
A couple of props out, a little bit more match
fit now got scumfit as well, which is huge for us.
And what do I focus on We're wanting to get
(32:26):
too broad on it, but how we can be better.
We know we've got a really good scrum and obviously
match with the lineup as well, the combination of the two.
I'm getting those right in at pressure moments.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
What's Scott Robertson's assessment of the Wallabes being in the
Rugby Championship.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
Wallabees are persistent.
Speaker 14 (32:40):
They really clear brand, they know the DNA, they know
they're going to have to play. They stay in the
game for the whole match. They've got a great blas
squad and well coached.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
As they look to prepare for the Wallabies game, how
deep do they dig into what happened in Wellington as
a base for that.
Speaker 14 (32:58):
Nearly two halves? You have to review. You know, we
went and we thought a couple of moments and we
got into the twenty two. Didn't quite execute a lineout
call or non call all there. We won't get into it,
but we didn't quite compute that scoreboard pressure. You know,
an intercept slapped down on the edge. If we'd have
probably gone in and put it with scoreboard pressure and
I've been a little bit different. They scored straight after
halftime of that company on here, so it's swung quite
(33:20):
quickly and what are we going to do after this swing?
So you look at those you know you've got to
be quite clear you don't want to board bush it.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
These are the moments how can we be better?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
And finally from Scott robertson tonight, what did he see
looking back at the tape of the game in Wellington.
That wasn't apparent to him during the live game.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Probably like at the time I was singing, here we go.
Speaker 14 (33:42):
You know, just a couple of moments they they've got
to be roll on on a couple of airbeddals. We've
got tight on d there we two passes, got us
on the edge and then balance and a pass and you.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Know just those little moments. Where did that go?
Speaker 14 (33:55):
And we tried to chase, to chase the game a
little bit and you get to stop and pause it
when you're at home here the commentary you need to
you get to feel a little bit more and you're
not making any decisions then uest you're watching and seeing
people's faces and it wasn't Yeah, that was what it was.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Those are some of the Monday musings of head coach
Scott Robertson in his media session today ahead of Saturday
nights Bledislow Cup test at Eden Park. We've got full
life commentary here on news talks headb don't forget it's
an early kickoff, or earlier than is usual five past
five kickoff. We have a five hour build up. I
thought we might as well give it a go. It
(34:34):
wasn't my decision, but I'm fully behind it. So from
midday until five we're building up to the game on
news talks. He'd b the first three hours at the
Kingslander in New North Road and then in the All
Blacks fan zone between three and five. Hope you can
join us either there or on the air sixteen away
from eight massys Piney, I hope Otago beating Canterbury is
(34:55):
at the top of your power rankings. Well, muss, you're
about to find out Piney's power rankings. On the other
side of.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
This our rankings stirring right time to right.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
The weekends Pinety's power rankings. We do them every Monday night.
The best, the worst and the in between. Bits from
the Sporting Weekend. The Breakers two defeats to open their
new Australian National Basketball League season over the weekends, and
Slaughtery of.
Speaker 15 (35:25):
New Zealand on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 10 (35:27):
One fourteen to eighty two.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
The final score Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
United's highest ever score.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
I gets the New Zealand rate.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Some works that do for the Breakers as they stall
at the start line. The Black Ferns at nine outclassed
by Canada in their Rugby World Cup semi finals.
Speaker 15 (35:44):
Hold them under dogs, call them duck horses, no way,
call them rocky. World Cup finalists, taman brilliant, ruthless, efficient.
Canada are going to the decider then into New Zealand's reign,
and it is so richly, richly deserved.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
So the Black Ferns now play off the third and
fourth withs on Sunday morning. See the Black Foils at eight.
A difficult sol gpraghetta off the coast of Geneva.
Speaker 13 (36:14):
Canada did have the right of way over the Black
Foils there, so that could then meet a penalty for
the Black Foils.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yes, there you go.
Speaker 13 (36:21):
That happened about thirty seconds ago. A positioning era very
very rare by New Zealand that could cost them a
place in this final though I'm sure of that unforced
era by the Black Foils. They're going to be kicking themselves.
This is going to be a massive loss of points
for them. They're going to need a minor miracle on
this final up win leg which I hope to get
to the finish Yet so.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
New Zealand finishing eighth in the Swiss event and dropping
to third on the season leaderboard. Seven the Silver Ferns
sitting aside the off court turmoil to comfortably beat South
Africa last night.
Speaker 10 (36:52):
Game over and the New Zealand have turned on a
Monday performance to begin the Tiny Jemerson twenty twenty five.
They have won verse tist of three by seventy seven
to fifty one.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Game on Wednesday Nights six the Panthers the Penrith Panthers
running all over the Bulldogs as they chase a fifth
straight NRL title.
Speaker 9 (37:16):
Very rapping throws a tubby gets it to top text.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
That gets filled path the Ladiesday.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Everybody gets a.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Try chili look on'm minas, don't they. The Panthers meet
the Broncos on Sunday for a place in the Grand
Final five into the top half. Nineteen year old Kiwi
power swimmer Gabby Smith winning silver in the one hundred
meter breastroke SB nine class on the opening day of
the Power World Champs in Singapore.
Speaker 15 (37:45):
Taking a lot to get here.
Speaker 12 (37:46):
It's been a while since one hundred Brest TV, so
I'm very happy with it and my coach at home
and I've.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Been working really really hard to get the pacing and
technique right.
Speaker 12 (37:54):
So very happy that I could get on a show.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Gabby Smith was sixth at the turn before storming home
to grab silver with a new personal best time. Hayden
wild Superman a fourth straight win in triathlon's T one
hundred series.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
He raises his finger in the air.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
This is going to be four wins in four.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Races for Hayden Wilds and the scary thing.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Is it's his debut season on the tea.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Went now utterly remarkable after the training excid untilier this year.
Hayden Whild cleaning up in Spain, beating his nearest rival
by more than two minutes. Free shot, what are many wishes?
At three, Bronze at the World Champs in Tokyo, a
brilliant Olympic silver last year.
Speaker 11 (38:36):
Tom Walsh will be wishing her well and that would
be the first throw over twenty meters and that is
a brilliant, brilliant leading throw.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
From Wishy and a new personal beast of twenty point
zero six meters two. William Lawson's at two with his
best ever result in Formula one.
Speaker 11 (38:55):
This is Leam Lawson, there's Yuki Sonoda. They're battling over
fifth and sixth, but it's so much more than that.
Liam Lawson, who was in the Red Ball at the
start of the year looking promising championship hopes. Ahead of
him demoted after just two races. Incomes Yuki Sonoda and
he hasn't been able to make it work either, but
(39:15):
they're both running inside the top six. They're both fighting
for their Formula One careers and there is.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
No change in this battle. Behind Liam Lawson will be fifth,
behind Kimmy ANTONEI.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Here fifth that Ezerbaijan with a composed drive around the
streets of bakouby eight. Number one then is, of course Otago,
new holders of the ren Philly Shield.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
Back to Bella.
Speaker 13 (39:44):
Otago have done.
Speaker 11 (39:46):
It, Otago, they went the Red Filly Shield for the
time of their history.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
What is your immediate feet Back on the power rankings tonight,
the judging panel really needs to be looked at because
it seems anytime the shoeld change his hands to anyone
else in the sporting world is just fighting for number
two at the moment. I know Canterbury didn't get number
one when they took it, though, Piney so kid to explain, No,
I don't really okay, I don't really care to explain that, Okay. Anyway,
(40:22):
we'll see. We'll see what the people of the fine
people of Canterbury say when next time you're in that region. Eh.
Otherwise you're not too bad, not too bad.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
You reckon.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
North Harbor will be at number one next Monday if
they want it. Based on the season they've had, they
can probably be number one for the rest of the year.
They need something good go in the way, don't they?
They do? Oh at eight, but who knows the shield.
There's been a funny old thing this year, hasn't it.
You wouldn't put it past North Harbor to go down
to Dunedin on Saturday and take it back up to
(40:52):
Albany with them. But yeah, I wouldn't be putting too
much on it. Piney's Power Rankings return next Monday night,
six and a half to eight News Talks here Be
and Sports Talk four Away from eight. Friend of mine
Nigel's messages me on Facebook Otago. Piney's Power Rankings nailed it,
Thank you, Nigel. Unfortunately, Wayne disagrees rubbish rankings. Bro says Wayne.
My Cranulla Sharks took out the Raiders by the way. No,
(41:14):
you did right, Wayne, No, probably should have included Cronulla.
I'll tell you what if Crinella make it to the
Grand Final next week, if they can find their way
into the decider by beating the Storm on Friday night,
I guarantee the Sharks a place in the power rankings.
Needs can't pre promise ranking spots Piney. That's not how
(41:34):
this works. I thought they were Piney's power rankings. I'm like,
I say, I'm gonna have to take over if you
keep up this ran fairly shield rubbish that's going on.
I'm just trying to keep Wayne happy, really seems but
put out that the Sharks aren't there. Simon says, awesome
race last night. Thrilled for Liam. Very little he could
have done more. P five is massive. He is in
(41:58):
a midfield team giving at the full jendle good on Youssimon,
thanks for listening in enjoy the rest of your week.
We will see you for a five hour build up
to the All Blacks on today starting at the Kingslander
New North Road. Thanks joining McDonald.
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