September 29, 2025 • 42 mins
Jason Pine returns to recap a full day in the world of sport! Highlights for tonight include:
Former Silver Ferns coach Yvonne Willering on the calls for Dame Noeline Taurua to return.
Eroni Clarke on his surprise national anthem performance and how he kept it a secret from his son.
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Talking Sport until eight. There were two memorable moments on
the mic over the last couple of nights. On Saturday
for All Black Ironnie Clark performed the national anthem before
the Bledisloe Cup Test to the surprise of just about everybody,
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including his own son Caleb, who was lining up to
make his return to the All Blacks for the first
time since last year. And then last night, Silver Fern
star Grace Wecky shot a shot of a different sort
when handed the microphone after her size when over South Africa,
asking stood down coach Dame Nolene Todoua to come back
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and coach the side. Ironie Clark is with us tonight
to take us inside the experience of singing God defend
New Zealand in front of forty six thousand people and
keeping it a secret from his son first up though
the ongoing netball saga. Will Grace Wiki's words compel some
swifter action from Netball New Zealand as they look to
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resolve this Dame Noleine Todoer situation? And was Grace WEEKI
speaking on behalf of the whole team Former New Zealand
coach Yvonne willering along shortly then your thoughts on how
and how quickly this can all be sorted out? And
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Silver Fern Star shirt to Grace Wecki has pleaded for
absent coach Dame Noleine Todouer to return Whek. He made
the plea shortly after New Zealand's nail biting win over
South Africa in the third Tiny Jamison Test and in
the cargo last night.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I think it's remiss to celebrate the success without acknowledging
Nolan toe to it and the work she's done for
this team. Noles, if you're listening, we love you, and
we miss you and we.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Want you back here.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Former Silver Fern's coach and now radio analyst, Yvonne Willering
is with us. Evon, Thanks for joining us tonight. What
did you make of Grace Weeki's postgame comments last night?
Speaker 6 (03:05):
Well, I think it actually caught all of us by surprise.
I was doing the radio commentary and when she took
the microphone and going, oh, what's going to happen here?
And yeah, I guess a lot of that was frustration.
Probably people will say that, and I agree. The timing
was not ideal. I mean, South Africa was there, They'd
only just lost that last test, so you know, at
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that stage it was really about the Tiny Jameson Trophy.
But having said that, you know when, I mean you
could see Grace was frustrated and when does he then
get an opportunity to have us say and then I
look at, you know, the whole situation, and the Players
Association at some stage should have stepped into all of this,
you know, And they're not just there to represent the
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players that have had a grievance since the January camp.
This is about all players involved. And so yeah, I
think that that was more frustration than any anything else.
And I do believe that her wording was we and
not just I, because some people have said, oh, it's
because of that, you know, just how she reacted. I mean,
obviously there is a great deal of respect between the
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two parties, but I think it does go beyond that.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, and that was the interesting part for me as well, Yvonne,
that she said we miss you, we want you back.
Do you think Grace was speaking on behalf of the team.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
She was speaking, I'd say on the majority. I think
there might still be grievances. Otherwise, why has this taken
so long to you know, to come to some understanding
with this? So yeah, and again, yeah, it's a situation.
Yere she was the acting captain. I think that she
appreciated that, and I guess she just sees the opportunity,
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and yeah, it did catch us by surprise, but also
now it's in a situation unfortunately it's all being done
out in the open, but there's a lot of stuff
that's happening behind closed doors. And I just wish that,
you know, even if like the Players Association, Neple, New Zealand, whoever,
if they just come out and even if they said, look,
we're going through the process. There these are the issues,
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you know, and hopefully we will resolve them very soon.
But they've been saying that between you know, even before
the tiny Jamison and now we don't know whether we're
going into Constellation Cup with Dame nol and True at
the Helm or again we've got these interim coaching coaches
going through and you know, I'm with lots of people
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getting frustrated right now and saying make some decisions, and
you know, and we most of us still don't know
exactly what's happening. And it's not about that we need
to know the ends and outs, that's that's not a problem,
but somewhere along the line we need to know exactly,
you know, what is going on going into the future.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And you're you're so Rightyvon because what the Constellation Cup
is now less than three weeks away our biggest rivals,
Australia Home and Away tests. You know, surely there must
be a quick resolution to this or can you not
see that happening? Are we at a point where actually,
if we couldn't resolve it before Tiny Jemison, if we
don't have time before the Consolation go either.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Well, yeah, I think they have been put under a
lot more pressure now that Grayson Weicki has come out
and spoken, and maybe that's opened the door for other
players to state their case. I don't know whether contractually
they have to keep quiet, but it just seems to
me that all the people that are actually concerning all
this are keeping quiet, and people like myself who sit
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on the outside of all this, you know, and have
a lot.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
Of concern for what's happening.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
You know, we're basically just voicing our opinions, but it
needs to go deeper than that. And to me, yeah,
like they're saying we want, like I know, Jenny Wiley
has said we want an early resolution to all this,
and I'm going yep, but this could have happened then
before the Tiny Jemison Trophy, And yeah, that's interesting. The
Silver Firms go back into camp next week and there
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will be a team that'll be selected and maybe a
squad selected, because don't forget, they've got a team of
a squad of eighteen and Honesty will be back in
that equation having come back from the World Youth Cup
in Gibralsa. So you know that's got to be selected.
And who's going to select that team? And I said,
it's going to be within the next two days. While
I like to know who is doing that selection, and
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the person that knows all these players the best of
anyone else is name nol In Taora, and she knows
what the projection is, what they're trying to achieve going forward.
She is the one that wanted this camp next week
and she was already organized all this stuff. And I've
spoken to her and you know she is so keen
still to take the Silver Ferns and all the stuff
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that's happened, and yet she is still wanted to be there.
She you know, despite all the stress, she believes and
what she stands for. She believes in the Silver Ferns
and that's why she just needs to be addressed.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Is there any scenario then Yvonne, under which Dave Nolan
just gets fed up with us. It's taken too long,
there's no resolution. She just walked away and takes those
services elsewhere. Or does she want to be silver Fern's
coach and Silver Fun's coach.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Only look, she's hanging in there. She's hung in there
all this time, you know. And yeah, I'm with.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You, I'm going WHOA.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
I'm not sure if I could have just carried on,
you know, but why take the easy option in her
case when she totally believes in what she's doing and
she still isn't. I'm not sure, but you know, I
don't think that she quite understands exactly what went down
in that January camp that was so bad. And it's
interesting all the action and all the focus is on her.
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But appreciate all three coaches have been stood down, and
that includes dead Fuller as the assistant and also Bryoni
Ackle the Swiss coach. You know, they've all been stood down. Now,
this was just a grievance against Dame nol In Tahru.
I go, well, why wasn't dead Fuller then put in charge?
Or did she elect not to be available? And none
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of us really know the answers to that. So yeah,
it's just got to be resolved. And yeah, and she
wants to hang in there. Look, obviously there must be
lawyers involved as well. And I look at it and
I'm going, this is a passionate coach. They're starting to
question her credibility as a high performance coach. Listen, the
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head hunted her from the lightning initially. Has she changed
over time to suit today's players? Absolutely shares she is
not an old school coach. I know that because I
am you know, and I know that the players of
today they are, They're not more demanding, but it's very
much about them and to have that involvement, and we
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talk about players centered coaching. Don't have a problem with that,
and certainly you know Dame Noline. She Look, I've seen
her in action with all these players and with management,
and it's normally very open communication. But somewhere on the line,
I question how honest that communication has been.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
How much, say, should the buyers be given in deciding
who their coach should or shouldn't be.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Yeah, yeah, it's not for it's not for players to
determine that, and that's that's why it's really interesting at
the moment, we have what we call these interim coaches,
and I think they were appointed by one or two individuals.
Appreciate if they're not in to is not if she
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does oh you know whatever, whatever word, she's no longer
required a silver firm's coach. Then really it has the
open applications and again you have a panel with some
some people sitting from the board of Neple News dealer.
But also they need outside either sporting people or outside
people that have a knowledge of exactly what's required for
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elite sport, for the high performance environment, so you know,
this is not a situation. Sometimes they do have a
captain involved in the situation. Don't have a problem with
that as it is then from a playing perspective, but
it is not up to players to determine who the
coach should be because the ones that make the team,
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you know, will always be going, you know, will always
be right there for the coach, whereas the ones that
don't or have grievances will always go the negative stunt.
So yeah, I think you've got to be very careful
how much power the different different people have in this
whole scenario.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Well, the weight of public opinion seems to me anyway
to be heavily in favor of Dame Nolene. You move
in Nepel circles, you chat to a lot of people involved,
deeply involved and deeply passionate about the game, yvonn. Is
that the feel you get as well, that the weight
of public opinion is behind Dame noling Todu.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Yeah, because and part of that is because one she
is being questioned as a coach, but also the way
in which it has been done. I mean, before we
all knew it. I knew that the things were amiss
when I when I spoiled, I suppose to day knowledge saying,
you know about the camp that was supposed to happen
the next day, And I said to her mate, where
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is it happening because I was going to go to it,
and she said, no, time out, We're not actually having it,
you know, And so you know, we're all left in
the dark. And I know that Sidney Life members have
come out and the main reason for this is really
the integrity of the sport and the way things in
a way haven't been handled. But it wasn't it interesting?
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The Southern crowd appreciate they loved Dame Noli Tarru. She's
coached down there, you know, and they were always going
to be in favor of her. But I know that
from throughout the whole country. Yeah, there is a great
support for her. But I look at this and I'm going,
it's about a situation that occurred. Surely they're not questioning
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her credibility as a high performance coach.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Just to finish. Then what is your best guess about
whether this will be resolved in time for Dan Noline
to take over again? In fact that the outcome, is
this going to be resolved in John for Herd a
select and coach a team for the Constellation Cup.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
It should be resolved. I think that with Grayson and
Wicki coming out and when I heard that, I'm going, oh,
this is going to really mean that. You know, it's
going to force in a way nep On New Zealand
to have some honest conversations and really work to try
to resolve these issues. Can they go through to the
Constellation Cup with interim coaches and certainly not make the
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players any wiser than what's happening. I think we're going
to be in trouble and I think that we need
to have some honesty around that and just basically state
what is happening. Not we don't need to know that
as the outside public, but certainly the players need to
know that. And I think they're just getting frustrated. And
you know, you can say by having day Noline back
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for the Constellation Cup, it's you know, you really need
that stability in the team going through from Tiny jameson
to Constellation Cup. Don't buy that she's been with the team.
She knows the team, she knows all the players that
are involved in the actual squad, she knows what she's
trying to achieve going forward leading into the Calm Game.
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So I think that's an easy transition if she is available,
and another she's available if she gets the roll back
for the Constellation Cup. So yeah, if this drags on,
you know, I think people are going to get more
and more frustrated, and I think the general public are
going to get more and more involved, and our sport
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does not need that.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Let's say a resolution is forthcoming and arrives quickly. Evon
Willaring always appreciate your time, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
Pleasure.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
There you go. Evon Willaring, former Silver Fern's coach, very
tightly connected in the netball community with some very interesting
thoughts there. Yours are welcome now too. Of eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty good on grace Wiki. Good on
her for saying something. I'm just glad someone said something.
There's been nothing at all from Netball New Zealand. We
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asked to speak with the CEO, Jenny Wiley tonight. That
request was declined. Nothing from the board, the chairs apparently
on leave at the moment. Nothing from the Players Association,
Nothing from High Performance Sport New Zealand, who give a
significant amount of tax payer money to the Silver Ferns.
Nothing from any of them. And in that void of silence, speculations,
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inevitable rumors become fat. That's never helpful. I am still
at a complete loss to understand how we've got to this,
to a situation where our most successful netball coach is
sitting at home and not coaching the side and getting
them ready for their next pinnacle event, the Commonwealth Games
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next year. The timing of all of this has just
been appalling. The first conversations, as I understand it, were
held about three months ago. That was when concerns were
first raised about the coaching environment. How did we get
to the point where the South African series arrived, and
just before it the decision was made to stand Dame
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noling Toto down. They could have kept this out of
the public domain, out of the media and dealt with
it during that time there was no netbull to be had.
They didn't have to pick a team, they didn't have
to play any games. They had plenty of time if
they'd wanted it to deal with it. Then the fact
they left it so long meant that they had to
go public because there were games to play. Dame noling
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Toto I had selected a team for the tiny Jamison
series against South Africa and then was told that she
wasn't the coach. I mean credit to a Vet McCausland
Jerry for stepping in at a time of need. It's
a good thing that she was able to. But she's
made it pretty clear she's gone back to work in
the education sector. This was only ever a short term
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thing as far as she was concerned. She answered in
sos oversaw. You know, a fairly professional three nil series
went over South Africa, but what we left with now
is shambolic. We play Australia in four tests. The first
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of which is only eighteen days away. Who's coaching the site,
who's even selecting the site? What on earth is going on? Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number. If
you can find some answers, I certainly haven't been able to. Hllo,
Greg Hey Jackson, all right, Greg, alright, but a bit
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confused about this whole thing.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
Yeah, well, I think we're all a bit confused about it.
But I think this is the world that we now
live in where you have not just players, but people
who don't know how to handle certain situations in what
we would call the old fashioned way. So instead of
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trying to nut things out one on one more two
on one, we we called for HR. You know, yet
HR involved, And once HR is involved, everything has to
be done so that whoever appears to be the victim
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has all the rights and the person who's being charged
with whatever it may be, has very little rights at all.
You know, they can have their say, you know, this
is how.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
It was, but the person who stands up and says, well,
I'm not happy with the way this has happened. So
it can be a work environment, obviously a sports environment,
but I think it's people not be able to handle
situations that they've never encountered before, and it might just
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be every day, every day hilarity or something said in
a particular way, Well, that offended me. I didn't like that.
So instead of going to the person and saying, look
what you just said, you know that that really hurt
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me and I don't think it was appropriate in the
time or the situation, and work it out between you
where it's now like I think the younger generation, some
of the younger generation, I'll say it's like, well, let's
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go and see hr. We'll get them involved, and they
don't actually see how much turboil it has created. One
for the person who have said has done the wrong,
but for the rest of the environment.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, and that Greg, that's that. But just there that
you just landed on there the rest of the en environment.
That is so right. The Planers Association have a responsibility, yes,
to anybody who has an issue with the environment they
find themselves in as a silver fern, Absolutely they do.
But the Plants Association also have a responsibility to the
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entire playing group. So complaints in whatever form look do
have to be taken seriously. I think we have to
have an environment inside which people are able to raise concerns,
genuine concerns. But Greg, I feel like you're right, it's
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now got to a point where we have to follow
a process every single time, make sure every box is ticked,
make sure that nobody is offended, give everybody a say.
It doesn't have to be a democracy. I feel like Netburne,
New Zealand need to be their coach, and unless she's
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found to have done something seriously wrong, then you have
to continue to back her and her methods. She is
our coach. We back her. We believe in her philosophy,
her playing style, her selection and the way she runs
the team. And as Evonne Willering said, then the player
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shouldn't select the coach. Having said that, of course, Grace
Wicki doesn't get to choose her the coaches either. She
might want Dame Nolan as her coach. She doesn't get
to decide either. But I'm just glad somebody said something.
Thanks Greg good, Kevin Good?
Speaker 10 (21:52):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I'm okay, Kevin.
Speaker 10 (21:55):
Hey, not too bad? Of course, good sporting weekend. Of course,
I get the feeling this is like an HR matters
been what should have been done privately, but has now
been left open and like public dirty laundry. You know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I do, I do, And like I said, Kevin, I
didn't have it didn't have to the only reason it's
got to this is because we got to some games,
you know, and they had and so everyone say, okay,
we've got some games against against South Africa. So Dan
Nolene picked a team and then all of a sudden
she was stood down as coach and they moved in
the the the caretaker coaches if you like. It could
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have been dealt with, you know, long before this.
Speaker 10 (22:37):
And of course I'm thinking if I'm not I'm not
a Diamonds fan, but I'm thinking this this matter potentially
is playing as like okay, were given these we're given
the mind games, we're leaving the we're giving I mean,
we're playing leading a straight O're playing the mind games now,
you know what I.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Mean, Kevin. I mean, if I'm Australia, I'm delighted. You know,
we've got the Constellation Cup. We won it last year.
If I'm them, I'm delighted. I'm looking across the town.
It's been gone. He's a great opportunity to get it back,
you know, I mean good on the silver poons for
for betting South Africa in the last three test matches.
But we were always going to We were always going
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to Australia. Very different story. Thanks Kevin seven thirty back
with more of your calls after this.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
The right call is your call on eight hundred eighty
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Speaker 2 (23:34):
Sidy seven point thirty three. Ernie Clark shortly Hello John.
Speaker 11 (23:40):
Yeh play Hey damn Noreen. First of all, Shell, there
has to be an apology in nationwide from our organization
to her, first of all one.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
So the only reason they were sorry, Tom, the only
reason they wouldn't be is if it's found that she's
done something terrible that if you know that that that
she's done something that actually you know does just assuming
that she should stand down. So I mean, we can't
say that until the process is finished, but you did right.
If it's found that there's nothing to see here she does,
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she deserves a massive apology from her employer.
Speaker 11 (24:23):
And really if if step boxes ticked and my god,
why would she come back? But if she does, there
has to be a resignation.
Speaker 9 (24:35):
From up top.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Has to be Yeah, I saw Jenny Wiley on the
TV the other night, the one interview she did do,
and she said that she still believes she's the person
to lead Netball New Zealand. The fact remains that she
went on annual leave on the day that Dame Nolene
Todor was stood down, and that doesn't scream leadership to me.
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I understand that everybody has to take annual leave and
holidays are planned and all that sort of thing, but
this is an extraordinary circumstance and for me, when that
decision was made that she would step down or sorry,
we stood down day Noline, Jenny Wiley, a CEO, should
have front it.
Speaker 11 (25:19):
Yeah, absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
All right, John, Good to Chentty, mate, thanks for calling in.
Speaker 12 (25:24):
Hello Bruce, Oh yeah, hello Jason, Good evening. Just just
a couple of things. Firstly, we've been watching the All
Blacks for decades and I'm in the seventies now and
we're sort of scratching, well, I'm scratching my head as
to what I'm seeing, and I think sort of the
cherry on the top as I watched the Wallabies pushed
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the All Black from the line out are all developed
and they pushed the All Blacks seven meters backwards over
the line to score a push over tried out. I
can't remember the last time I saw that happened to
an all black pack.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I think it was pre Jason Ryan. Actually, Bruce, I
think Jason Ryan was brought in. Yeah, it was. In fact,
I'm almost certain that was the reason he was brought
in to shore that up. It was sort of around
that twenty twenty one heading into twenty twenty two, and
then after the Irish series when Jason Ryan was brought in,
John Plumtree and Brad Moore will let go and Jason
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Ryan's brief basically was to solidify the forward pack and
he did it for a long time. But you're right,
I mean we seem to have gone backwards and literally
and figured roughly in terms of defending rolling moolls close
to our line.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (26:41):
Yeah, well, I sort of I love the game and
I see what's happened to it, and I'm sort of
wondering what we can do, and I'm sort of thinking
about things like perhaps you look at a pack weight,
a maximum pack weight for a whole team, or a
team weight, and then a wait for certain positions. Because
I remember that, I remember David Kirk scoring their try
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as a half back in their first World Cup. But
he got almost knocked out and he held the cup
up with blood streaming down his eye. That was the
kind of rugby that you know that we played in
Auckland at the time. And I've been away for a
long time. I've just come back. But gosh, it's a
different game now, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
It is, Bruce. It has got to move make because
I've got a Ronie Clark standing by to chat to us.
He would remember the way he played the game and
I'm sure enjoyed the way that he sung the anthem
the other night. Good to chat to you, Bruce. I'm
sure that we can we can talk rugby again at
some stage in the future. Just on twenty three away from.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Eight Forts talk.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
One of the undoubted highlights of Saturday nights led Uslow
Cup Test at Eden Park, happened before the game had
even kicked off. The New Zealand national anthem, sung utterly
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magnificently by former or Black Roney Clark, who's the dad,
of course, also of current or Black swinger Caleb Clark.
IRONI Clark is with us now. Congratulations are one on
a spine tingling rendition of our national anthem? When were
you approached initially to perform this very special role?
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Thanks, jas Well, I got to tell you that it
was from the Magic Monster that I was then on
the show the Mass Singing, and of course some of
the team at the in the office here obviously knew
that and they approached me. I met New zeal And
might be and so they asked me the events then
said Ronnie, would you consider doing a national anthem one day?
I looked at them and said, are you kidding? No way,
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at least with the mass singer, your pre recording and
you've got the obviously you're underneath this mask and now
took some other things, and they asked and asked. So finally,
just before the South Africa test at Eden Park, I
went along to the sound check. I did it. I
thought I felt comfortable after a few times, and I thought, okay, yeah,
look I'll do it in twenty twenty six or twenty
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twenty seven. No, in two weeks against Australia. Oh man,
I just got fell over.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Now, Caleb didn't know you were doing this. Was it
something that that you deliberately kept to as as few
people as possible?
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Yeah, well, I mean from I wanted to surprise my
wife and the kids, or well and my wider family,
but from having a player perspective, you know, having had
that experience, I just wanted Taylor to just focus on
the game. I didn't want to have him hanging over
him that is always dad, it's going to be singing
the endsum, and I didn't want him to speaking about
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through the week and also thinking about that while he's
warming up. So I thought, I'll just have to surprise him,
and then he's just going to have to really keep
that focus.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
So were you also able to keep it from your
your wife and your family.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
As well, and even just about everyone outside of the
events city in the So yes, that was and that
was quite a challenge as well. I'm trying to practice
with the National Interem at home and I'm having to
hum little bits of pieces of it and I just
about blew my cover a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
And so on. On the night. Then did you just
sort of slip away and say, look, I'm just going
to go to the bathroom or I'm just going to
go and get you know, I get a snack. I'll
be back soon, and then all of a sudden you're
down on the field.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
That's right. Well the challenge also too, because because I
worked with you in Ragby, I was also hosting some
of our specific partners in the lounge and other things.
So the challenge and then so we're we're on our
way to the to the game and we're held up
there with the traffic at the Minion Road and the
events team are trying to find me. My cause I
finally got there, they zipped me straight down and I
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had to leave my family. Levinski came up and said
it to me in front of him. Oh, Ronnie, we've
got the MC connect Live connect for you to do.
Can you come with us straight away?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Oh cover nearly blowing incredible. You look so relaxed. Were
you nervous?
Speaker 7 (31:10):
You know? I look back to my playing days, I'm
a wreck off the field. But when I'm on the
field and it's kick off and we're playing, I'm at
my calmes. So I'm standing there on the sideline together
with Sophie who was singing the Australian national anthem, and
the teams run past me and I'm thinking, don't look,
don't look me? Sure he's not turned around and looking
(31:32):
at you. I had a quick look anyway, he didn't
see me. So I'm standing there and fighting with my
mind with all that and trying to trying to engage
all those high performance things. Breeze slow down, and all
I could think fighting was remember the words, Remember the words,
and the other thought what am I doing here?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
And once you got onto it was a bit like
a game of rugby. Once the whistle goes and you're
away that you're fine. Once you got the first couple
of words out, you were away.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Absolutely as soon as the first they heard the introduction
and I started it, then I fell exactly like that.
And when the when the whistle blinds for kickoff, I
was at my calms and same as soon as I
started singing. And then from there it was just hearing
our hearing the crowd singing. It was incredible. And then
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and as we got through the song, I wasn't even
I didn't know how Caleb was, but I really loved
the crowd of Eden Park singing together beautifully our national answer.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
And then you shared a special moment with Cayleb after
the anthem and just before the hawka, were you aboul
to exchange a few words at that.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
Point absolutely what was wonderful. I went to walk off,
but I just thought to turn to my right, and
as I turned to my lef, there he was walking
towards me, tears in his eyes, and he goes, you
didn't tell me, Dad, And I turned someone. That's right, son,
that's right now. It's your turn, your turn, now, go
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go and play, give it your best, go, welcome back,
go now and playing. So yeah, with a hug. I
mean it certainly as a father, that's what really came
to me. Just as a father. I got to get
that hug in there and let them go before they kick.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Off, and had you got back to your viewing position
by the time he scored his try, because it was
only about three or four minutes.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Ten, I didn't realize. I was making my way up
to my seat and then got up there. I went, oh, great,
we're in the lead. That's brilliant. And my wife tells
me Is and she says to me, it was your
sonings called the try, and I just thought, wow, that
could not have been scripted so well.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
So yeah, and the performer says, I'm sure you know,
Ronnie has gone absolutely viral. How many people have sort
of been in touch to pass on their best wishes
and their congratulations. Do you.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
I've got to tell you this. My my text messages
have been over one hundred and the miss then the messengers,
then you've got the WhatsApps and even in fact, while
I was singing, I could feel in my pocket my
phone buzzing and buzzing and buzzing anduzzy.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Absolutely wonderful, Ernni. It was a special moment for all
of us, no doubt, a very special moment for you
and your family. Thank you for joining us to tell
us about the experience. And may there be many more,
many more occasions on which you sing the national anthem
for us before in all blacks test.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
No, thanks Jay, thanks just for having me on. I
did no whisper quietly to our events this morning. Don't
use me for a little while please, So thank you
very much.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I love it great to chat to you. ARONI thanks indeed,
Arone Clark there our dad of Caleb, proud dad of Caleb.
But man, what a performance the New Zealand national anthem
sung by a former player. That's a first, isn't it.
I don't think that's happened before. Surely it's not the
last time we hear arone Clark belt out our national
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song before an All Blacks test sixteen away from it.
Let's take a right come back and rate the weekend
Piney's power rankings after this, please our ranking? Oh kaylet
it's right. The weekend pe His power rankings the Beast,
the worst and the in between from the last couple
of days. The Breakers throwing away a twelve point fourth
(35:14):
quarter lead to lose by eleven to the Perth Wildcats.
Still searching for that first one under new ownership, they
go on the.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Longest ride trip in the NBL.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
He's really I got some pumps.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Pump put me in the game, and I got him.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
And the Wildcats have rally.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
New Zealand led seventy four sixty four twinty four since then.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Goodn't I too little?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Says Anio nine.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
The Brisbane Lions are mauling of the Geelong Cats in
the AFL Grand Final.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Pick up here by Fletcher a superb the hands for
mccluggings and Neil.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
He says, you run, you're better at this than I am.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
He can sneak one here mcclugging's rams and.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
He's got another. This celebration is kick for mcclugging.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
He's gotta be in the voting.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
This is one of the right Grand Final victories that
I've ever seen. One twenty two to seventy five to
the Lions seat Crystal Palace a very late winner to
beat the Premier League leaders Liverpool Shoes. It's a kid
to you, absolutely, but load at all. Crystal Palace have to.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Build the champions leave the eighth.
Speaker 10 (36:32):
Committed a stuffaxe time.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
The Liverpool's unfeaturing start to the season is surely over.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Victory for Crystal Palace, who are the only unbeaten Premier
League side now. In fact, they're eighteen games unbeaten in
all competitions, including the last twelve in the Premier League.
Seven the Silver Ferns wrapping up the tiny Jamison series
and Grace Wiki taking the chance to ask their coach
to come back.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Noels, if you're listening, we love you and we miss
you and we want you back here. You've done so
much with us through the work you've done this whole year.
You deserve to be here and we want you back. No,
So thank you. Thank you to everyone for supporting us regardless.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Six the Black Ferns at six third at the Women's
Rugby World Cup, does well to get the skipper to Gregson,
Sirence and McGhee who puts her years down and finds
Georgia Miler.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Georgia Mala, She's done it all tournaments, Althos.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Laura Bayfield and they go back two pack.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Two back to back victory over France in the playoff
for third and four five top half. The All Blacks
are five back on track.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
And the Wallaby's huffed and puffed, but they can't quite
blow the Fortress down. At Eden Park, the bledders Low
Cup and All Black hands for another year victory the
way of the All Black thirty three twenty.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Four, defending the Fortress and retaining the bledder Slow Cup.
Speaker 8 (38:03):
Four.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Johnny Tata, you might not have heard of them, truck
driver from Wainuia Mata becoming just the second key we'd
had a nine data in a New Zealand ranking event.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
We go.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yes, yes, yeah, Johnny Tata, it's.
Speaker 10 (38:29):
Oh amazing.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Even better he did it in the final of the
dp n Z Pro Tour, qualifying him for the World
Darts Champs at Ellie Paley for the first time. The Warriors,
becoming the first team outside New South Wales to claim
the knock on effect New South Wales carp boy to
looker what's purged the ball coming.
Speaker 6 (38:52):
Through, skiing.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
To ever work and head he was there. Lassy Blassic
will take that tackle and the Warriors are twenty twenty five.
Speaker 9 (39:07):
Not that I think.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
New South whiles cap Grand Final.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Winners, backing up their minor Premiership status with a thirty
points to twelve win over the Dragons in the Grand
Final two. Still with League, the Broncos were a stirring comeback,
scoring sixteen unanswered points to make it through to the
NRL Grand Final.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Risbond final play of the game. Wolls will run it
Imals will run it all the way back of the
city to run the land of the Grand Final and
the tunnel in the nut extraordrant circumstance.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
The Broncos will play the Storm in the final day
in Penrith's hopes of a five peats one Nave Fisher
Black the first New Zealand cyclist female or male to
podium in the Elite Road Race of the World Champs,
coming home second at the Road World Champs in Rwanda.
The Elite Women's road race. Biship Black is just going
(40:01):
to crown this one home the three medals for the
three bravest riders. It seems out there, but let's wait
and see Fisher Black coming home for silver. Garcia is
going to take a Brinson so well full for that's
your medals. How good were those starts? Commentates I was
worried that they weren't going to deliver the appropriate level
of hype until they got gave that bellowing blow key
(40:24):
truck driving. That's that's fantastic, ah, Piney marvelous. I think
they might be a career for you in domestic darts commentary. Wonderful,
wonderful stuff. That's Piney's power rankings for tonight. They're back
again next Monday, seven to eight News Talks Here be
(40:45):
just on four away from eight on text. What a
lovely man, Aronie Clark is. I used to work with
Michael Jones, says the Texter, and he has that same
humility and calmness as Irony. That's a very good comparison.
And you're right, I mean, what a champion of a man,
Irone Clark, and just just such a the way he
told that story about out not wanting to interfere with
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Caleb Clark's preparation for the test, and then he wanted
to surprise his wife and got down there. That's the
crazy thing, isn't it. Even when they announced over the
public address that it was a Roney Clark to be
singing the New Zealand national anthem, Caleb Clark didn't even click.
Then he didn't click until the New Zealand part of
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the anthem. I had a quick chat him after the
game on Saturday during our coverage and you see, yeah,
it was when the New Zealand part started he looked
up at the screen and thought, hang on, that's my dad,
that's my dad, and that's when he got really emotional.
A wonderful moment for Caleb Clark, wonderful moment for Irone Clark,
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wonderful moment for us all. It was spine tingling stuff.
We've had some good anthems this year, haven't we. The
Secondary score Pacific Choir doing the South African anthems and
then Irony Clark doing the New Zealand one. I wonder
which other all blacks might be contenders. Maybe they have
to have a All Black's idol anthem idol Marcus Lushes
(42:11):
on the radio after eight Thanks to Anny McDonald for
all your work mate, I enjoy a few days off.
We will see you at midday Saturday for weekend Sport
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I'm Jason Pine. Anny McDonald is producing the show. We're
Talking Sport until eight. There were two memorable moments on
the mic over the last couple of nights. On Saturday
for All Black Ironnie Clark performed the national anthem before
the Bledisloe Cup Test to the surprise of just about everybody,
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including his own son Caleb, who was lining up to
make his return to the All Blacks for the first
time since last year. And then last night, Silver Fern
star Grace Wecky shot a shot of a different sort
when handed the microphone after her size when over South Africa,
asking stood down coach Dame Nolene Todoua to come back
(01:14):
and coach the side. Ironie Clark is with us tonight
to take us inside the experience of singing God defend
New Zealand in front of forty six thousand people and
keeping it a secret from his son first up though
the ongoing netball saga. Will Grace Wiki's words compel some
swifter action from Netball New Zealand as they look to
(01:35):
resolve this Dame Noleine Todoer situation? And was Grace WEEKI
speaking on behalf of the whole team Former New Zealand
coach Yvonne willering along shortly then your thoughts on how
and how quickly this can all be sorted out? And
of course on Monday nights we rate the weekend Piney's
Power rankings, the best, the worst and the in between.
(01:56):
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Speaker 2 (02:26):
Silver Fern Star shirt to Grace Wecki has pleaded for
absent coach Dame Noleine Todouer to return Whek. He made
the plea shortly after New Zealand's nail biting win over
South Africa in the third Tiny Jamison Test and in
the cargo last night.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I think it's remiss to celebrate the success without acknowledging
Nolan toe to it and the work she's done for
this team. Noles, if you're listening, we love you, and
we miss you and we.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Want you back here.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Former Silver Fern's coach and now radio analyst, Yvonne Willering
is with us. Evon, Thanks for joining us tonight. What
did you make of Grace Weeki's postgame comments last night?
Speaker 6 (03:05):
Well, I think it actually caught all of us by surprise.
I was doing the radio commentary and when she took
the microphone and going, oh, what's going to happen here?
And yeah, I guess a lot of that was frustration.
Probably people will say that, and I agree. The timing
was not ideal. I mean, South Africa was there, They'd
only just lost that last test, so you know, at
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that stage it was really about the Tiny Jameson Trophy.
But having said that, you know when, I mean you
could see Grace was frustrated and when does he then
get an opportunity to have us say and then I
look at, you know, the whole situation, and the Players
Association at some stage should have stepped into all of this,
you know, And they're not just there to represent the
(03:50):
players that have had a grievance since the January camp.
This is about all players involved. And so yeah, I
think that that was more frustration than any anything else.
And I do believe that her wording was we and
not just I, because some people have said, oh, it's
because of that, you know, just how she reacted. I mean,
obviously there is a great deal of respect between the
(04:11):
two parties, but I think it does go beyond that.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, and that was the interesting part for me as well, Yvonne,
that she said we miss you, we want you back.
Do you think Grace was speaking on behalf of the team.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
She was speaking, I'd say on the majority. I think
there might still be grievances. Otherwise, why has this taken
so long to you know, to come to some understanding
with this? So yeah, and again, yeah, it's a situation.
Yere she was the acting captain. I think that she
appreciated that, and I guess she just sees the opportunity,
(04:43):
and yeah, it did catch us by surprise, but also
now it's in a situation unfortunately it's all being done
out in the open, but there's a lot of stuff
that's happening behind closed doors. And I just wish that,
you know, even if like the Players Association, Neple, New Zealand, whoever,
if they just come out and even if they said, look,
we're going through the process. There these are the issues,
(05:06):
you know, and hopefully we will resolve them very soon.
But they've been saying that between you know, even before
the tiny Jamison and now we don't know whether we're
going into Constellation Cup with Dame nol and True at
the Helm or again we've got these interim coaching coaches
going through and you know, I'm with lots of people
(05:27):
getting frustrated right now and saying make some decisions, and
you know, and we most of us still don't know
exactly what's happening. And it's not about that we need
to know the ends and outs, that's that's not a problem,
but somewhere along the line we need to know exactly,
you know, what is going on going into the future.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And you're you're so Rightyvon because what the Constellation Cup
is now less than three weeks away our biggest rivals,
Australia Home and Away tests. You know, surely there must
be a quick resolution to this or can you not
see that happening? Are we at a point where actually,
if we couldn't resolve it before Tiny Jemison, if we
don't have time before the Consolation go either.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Well, yeah, I think they have been put under a
lot more pressure now that Grayson Weicki has come out
and spoken, and maybe that's opened the door for other
players to state their case. I don't know whether contractually
they have to keep quiet, but it just seems to
me that all the people that are actually concerning all
this are keeping quiet, and people like myself who sit
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on the outside of all this, you know, and have
a lot.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
Of concern for what's happening.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
You know, we're basically just voicing our opinions, but it
needs to go deeper than that. And to me, yeah,
like they're saying we want, like I know, Jenny Wiley
has said we want an early resolution to all this,
and I'm going yep, but this could have happened then
before the Tiny Jemison Trophy, And yeah, that's interesting. The
Silver Firms go back into camp next week and there
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will be a team that'll be selected and maybe a
squad selected, because don't forget, they've got a team of
a squad of eighteen and Honesty will be back in
that equation having come back from the World Youth Cup
in Gibralsa. So you know that's got to be selected.
And who's going to select that team? And I said,
it's going to be within the next two days. While
I like to know who is doing that selection, and
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the person that knows all these players the best of
anyone else is name nol In Taora, and she knows
what the projection is, what they're trying to achieve going forward.
She is the one that wanted this camp next week
and she was already organized all this stuff. And I've
spoken to her and you know she is so keen
still to take the Silver Ferns and all the stuff
(07:43):
that's happened, and yet she is still wanted to be there.
She you know, despite all the stress, she believes and
what she stands for. She believes in the Silver Ferns
and that's why she just needs to be addressed.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Is there any scenario then Yvonne, under which Dave Nolan
just gets fed up with us. It's taken too long,
there's no resolution. She just walked away and takes those
services elsewhere. Or does she want to be silver Fern's
coach and Silver Fun's coach.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Only look, she's hanging in there. She's hung in there
all this time, you know. And yeah, I'm with.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You, I'm going WHOA.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
I'm not sure if I could have just carried on,
you know, but why take the easy option in her
case when she totally believes in what she's doing and
she still isn't. I'm not sure, but you know, I
don't think that she quite understands exactly what went down
in that January camp that was so bad. And it's
interesting all the action and all the focus is on her.
(08:40):
But appreciate all three coaches have been stood down, and
that includes dead Fuller as the assistant and also Bryoni
Ackle the Swiss coach. You know, they've all been stood down. Now,
this was just a grievance against Dame nol In Tahru.
I go, well, why wasn't dead Fuller then put in charge?
Or did she elect not to be available? And none
(09:01):
of us really know the answers to that. So yeah,
it's just got to be resolved. And yeah, and she
wants to hang in there. Look, obviously there must be
lawyers involved as well. And I look at it and
I'm going, this is a passionate coach. They're starting to
question her credibility as a high performance coach. Listen, the
(09:23):
head hunted her from the lightning initially. Has she changed
over time to suit today's players? Absolutely shares she is
not an old school coach. I know that because I
am you know, and I know that the players of
today they are, They're not more demanding, but it's very
much about them and to have that involvement, and we
(09:45):
talk about players centered coaching. Don't have a problem with that,
and certainly you know Dame Noline. She Look, I've seen
her in action with all these players and with management,
and it's normally very open communication. But somewhere on the line,
I question how honest that communication has been.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
How much, say, should the buyers be given in deciding
who their coach should or shouldn't be.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Yeah, yeah, it's not for it's not for players to
determine that, and that's that's why it's really interesting at
the moment, we have what we call these interim coaches,
and I think they were appointed by one or two individuals.
Appreciate if they're not in to is not if she
(10:32):
does oh you know whatever, whatever word, she's no longer
required a silver firm's coach. Then really it has the
open applications and again you have a panel with some
some people sitting from the board of Neple News dealer.
But also they need outside either sporting people or outside
people that have a knowledge of exactly what's required for
(10:54):
elite sport, for the high performance environment, so you know,
this is not a situation. Sometimes they do have a
captain involved in the situation. Don't have a problem with
that as it is then from a playing perspective, but
it is not up to players to determine who the
coach should be because the ones that make the team,
(11:14):
you know, will always be going, you know, will always
be right there for the coach, whereas the ones that
don't or have grievances will always go the negative stunt.
So yeah, I think you've got to be very careful
how much power the different different people have in this
whole scenario.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Well, the weight of public opinion seems to me anyway
to be heavily in favor of Dame Nolene. You move
in Nepel circles, you chat to a lot of people involved,
deeply involved and deeply passionate about the game, yvonn. Is
that the feel you get as well, that the weight
of public opinion is behind Dame noling Todu.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Yeah, because and part of that is because one she
is being questioned as a coach, but also the way
in which it has been done. I mean, before we
all knew it. I knew that the things were amiss
when I when I spoiled, I suppose to day knowledge saying,
you know about the camp that was supposed to happen
the next day, And I said to her mate, where
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is it happening because I was going to go to it,
and she said, no, time out, We're not actually having it,
you know, And so you know, we're all left in
the dark. And I know that Sidney Life members have
come out and the main reason for this is really
the integrity of the sport and the way things in
a way haven't been handled. But it wasn't it interesting?
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The Southern crowd appreciate they loved Dame Noli Tarru. She's
coached down there, you know, and they were always going
to be in favor of her. But I know that
from throughout the whole country. Yeah, there is a great
support for her. But I look at this and I'm going,
it's about a situation that occurred. Surely they're not questioning
(12:55):
her credibility as a high performance coach.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Just to finish. Then what is your best guess about
whether this will be resolved in time for Dan Noline
to take over again? In fact that the outcome, is
this going to be resolved in John for Herd a
select and coach a team for the Constellation Cup.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
It should be resolved. I think that with Grayson and
Wicki coming out and when I heard that, I'm going, oh,
this is going to really mean that. You know, it's
going to force in a way nep On New Zealand
to have some honest conversations and really work to try
to resolve these issues. Can they go through to the
Constellation Cup with interim coaches and certainly not make the
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players any wiser than what's happening. I think we're going
to be in trouble and I think that we need
to have some honesty around that and just basically state
what is happening. Not we don't need to know that
as the outside public, but certainly the players need to
know that. And I think they're just getting frustrated. And
you know, you can say by having day Noline back
(13:56):
for the Constellation Cup, it's you know, you really need
that stability in the team going through from Tiny jameson
to Constellation Cup. Don't buy that she's been with the team.
She knows the team, she knows all the players that
are involved in the actual squad, she knows what she's
trying to achieve going forward leading into the Calm Game.
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So I think that's an easy transition if she is available,
and another she's available if she gets the roll back
for the Constellation Cup. So yeah, if this drags on,
you know, I think people are going to get more
and more frustrated, and I think the general public are
going to get more and more involved, and our sport
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does not need that.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Let's say a resolution is forthcoming and arrives quickly. Evon
Willaring always appreciate your time, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
Pleasure.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
There you go. Evon Willaring, former Silver Fern's coach, very
tightly connected in the netball community with some very interesting
thoughts there. Yours are welcome now too. Of eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty good on grace Wiki. Good on
her for saying something. I'm just glad someone said something.
There's been nothing at all from Netball New Zealand. We
(15:08):
asked to speak with the CEO, Jenny Wiley tonight. That
request was declined. Nothing from the board, the chairs apparently
on leave at the moment. Nothing from the Players Association,
Nothing from High Performance Sport New Zealand, who give a
significant amount of tax payer money to the Silver Ferns.
Nothing from any of them. And in that void of silence, speculations,
(15:30):
inevitable rumors become fat. That's never helpful. I am still
at a complete loss to understand how we've got to this,
to a situation where our most successful netball coach is
sitting at home and not coaching the side and getting
them ready for their next pinnacle event, the Commonwealth Games
(15:50):
next year. The timing of all of this has just
been appalling. The first conversations, as I understand it, were
held about three months ago. That was when concerns were
first raised about the coaching environment. How did we get
to the point where the South African series arrived, and
just before it the decision was made to stand Dame
(16:12):
noling Toto down. They could have kept this out of
the public domain, out of the media and dealt with
it during that time there was no netbull to be had.
They didn't have to pick a team, they didn't have
to play any games. They had plenty of time if
they'd wanted it to deal with it. Then the fact
they left it so long meant that they had to
go public because there were games to play. Dame noling
(16:34):
Toto I had selected a team for the tiny Jamison
series against South Africa and then was told that she
wasn't the coach. I mean credit to a Vet McCausland
Jerry for stepping in at a time of need. It's
a good thing that she was able to. But she's
made it pretty clear she's gone back to work in
the education sector. This was only ever a short term
(16:55):
thing as far as she was concerned. She answered in
sos oversaw. You know, a fairly professional three nil series
went over South Africa, but what we left with now
is shambolic. We play Australia in four tests. The first
(17:16):
of which is only eighteen days away. Who's coaching the site,
who's even selecting the site? What on earth is going on? Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number. If
you can find some answers, I certainly haven't been able to. Hllo,
Greg Hey Jackson, all right, Greg, alright, but a bit
(17:37):
confused about this whole thing.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
Yeah, well, I think we're all a bit confused about it.
But I think this is the world that we now
live in where you have not just players, but people
who don't know how to handle certain situations in what
we would call the old fashioned way. So instead of
(18:02):
trying to nut things out one on one more two
on one, we we called for HR. You know, yet
HR involved, And once HR is involved, everything has to
be done so that whoever appears to be the victim
(18:27):
has all the rights and the person who's being charged
with whatever it may be, has very little rights at all.
You know, they can have their say, you know, this
is how.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
It was, but the person who stands up and says, well,
I'm not happy with the way this has happened. So
it can be a work environment, obviously a sports environment,
but I think it's people not be able to handle
situations that they've never encountered before, and it might just
(19:06):
be every day, every day hilarity or something said in
a particular way, Well, that offended me. I didn't like that.
So instead of going to the person and saying, look
what you just said, you know that that really hurt
(19:27):
me and I don't think it was appropriate in the
time or the situation, and work it out between you
where it's now like I think the younger generation, some
of the younger generation, I'll say it's like, well, let's
(19:47):
go and see hr. We'll get them involved, and they
don't actually see how much turboil it has created. One
for the person who have said has done the wrong,
but for the rest of the environment.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, and that Greg, that's that. But just there that
you just landed on there the rest of the en environment.
That is so right. The Planers Association have a responsibility, yes,
to anybody who has an issue with the environment they
find themselves in as a silver fern, Absolutely they do.
But the Plants Association also have a responsibility to the
(20:22):
entire playing group. So complaints in whatever form look do
have to be taken seriously. I think we have to
have an environment inside which people are able to raise concerns,
genuine concerns. But Greg, I feel like you're right, it's
(20:45):
now got to a point where we have to follow
a process every single time, make sure every box is ticked,
make sure that nobody is offended, give everybody a say.
It doesn't have to be a democracy. I feel like Netburne,
New Zealand need to be their coach, and unless she's
(21:10):
found to have done something seriously wrong, then you have
to continue to back her and her methods. She is
our coach. We back her. We believe in her philosophy,
her playing style, her selection and the way she runs
the team. And as Evonne Willering said, then the player
(21:34):
shouldn't select the coach. Having said that, of course, Grace
Wicki doesn't get to choose her the coaches either. She
might want Dame Nolan as her coach. She doesn't get
to decide either. But I'm just glad somebody said something.
Thanks Greg good, Kevin Good?
Speaker 10 (21:52):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I'm okay, Kevin.
Speaker 10 (21:55):
Hey, not too bad? Of course, good sporting weekend. Of course,
I get the feeling this is like an HR matters
been what should have been done privately, but has now
been left open and like public dirty laundry. You know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I do, I do, And like I said, Kevin, I
didn't have it didn't have to the only reason it's
got to this is because we got to some games,
you know, and they had and so everyone say, okay,
we've got some games against against South Africa. So Dan
Nolene picked a team and then all of a sudden
she was stood down as coach and they moved in
the the the caretaker coaches if you like. It could
(22:33):
have been dealt with, you know, long before this.
Speaker 10 (22:37):
And of course I'm thinking if I'm not I'm not
a Diamonds fan, but I'm thinking this this matter potentially
is playing as like okay, were given these we're given
the mind games, we're leaving the we're giving I mean,
we're playing leading a straight O're playing the mind games now,
you know what I.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Mean, Kevin. I mean, if I'm Australia, I'm delighted. You know,
we've got the Constellation Cup. We won it last year.
If I'm them, I'm delighted. I'm looking across the town.
It's been gone. He's a great opportunity to get it back,
you know, I mean good on the silver poons for
for betting South Africa in the last three test matches.
But we were always going to We were always going
(23:19):
to Australia. Very different story. Thanks Kevin seven thirty back
with more of your calls after this.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
The right call is your call on eight hundred eighty
eighty Sports Talk All on your home of Sports News Talk.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Sidy seven point thirty three. Ernie Clark shortly Hello John.
Speaker 11 (23:40):
Yeh play Hey damn Noreen. First of all, Shell, there
has to be an apology in nationwide from our organization
to her, first of all one.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
So the only reason they were sorry, Tom, the only
reason they wouldn't be is if it's found that she's
done something terrible that if you know that that that
she's done something that actually you know does just assuming
that she should stand down. So I mean, we can't
say that until the process is finished, but you did right.
If it's found that there's nothing to see here she does,
(24:19):
she deserves a massive apology from her employer.
Speaker 11 (24:23):
And really if if step boxes ticked and my god,
why would she come back? But if she does, there
has to be a resignation.
Speaker 9 (24:35):
From up top.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Has to be Yeah, I saw Jenny Wiley on the
TV the other night, the one interview she did do,
and she said that she still believes she's the person
to lead Netball New Zealand. The fact remains that she
went on annual leave on the day that Dame Nolene
Todor was stood down, and that doesn't scream leadership to me.
(25:01):
I understand that everybody has to take annual leave and
holidays are planned and all that sort of thing, but
this is an extraordinary circumstance and for me, when that
decision was made that she would step down or sorry,
we stood down day Noline, Jenny Wiley, a CEO, should
have front it.
Speaker 11 (25:19):
Yeah, absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
All right, John, Good to Chentty, mate, thanks for calling in.
Speaker 12 (25:24):
Hello Bruce, Oh yeah, hello Jason, Good evening. Just just
a couple of things. Firstly, we've been watching the All
Blacks for decades and I'm in the seventies now and
we're sort of scratching, well, I'm scratching my head as
to what I'm seeing, and I think sort of the
cherry on the top as I watched the Wallabies pushed
(25:46):
the All Black from the line out are all developed
and they pushed the All Blacks seven meters backwards over
the line to score a push over tried out. I
can't remember the last time I saw that happened to
an all black pack.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I think it was pre Jason Ryan. Actually, Bruce, I
think Jason Ryan was brought in. Yeah, it was. In fact,
I'm almost certain that was the reason he was brought
in to shore that up. It was sort of around
that twenty twenty one heading into twenty twenty two, and
then after the Irish series when Jason Ryan was brought in,
John Plumtree and Brad Moore will let go and Jason
(26:25):
Ryan's brief basically was to solidify the forward pack and
he did it for a long time. But you're right,
I mean we seem to have gone backwards and literally
and figured roughly in terms of defending rolling moolls close
to our line.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (26:41):
Yeah, well, I sort of I love the game and
I see what's happened to it, and I'm sort of
wondering what we can do, and I'm sort of thinking
about things like perhaps you look at a pack weight,
a maximum pack weight for a whole team, or a
team weight, and then a wait for certain positions. Because
I remember that, I remember David Kirk scoring their try
(27:04):
as a half back in their first World Cup. But
he got almost knocked out and he held the cup
up with blood streaming down his eye. That was the
kind of rugby that you know that we played in
Auckland at the time. And I've been away for a
long time. I've just come back. But gosh, it's a
different game now, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
It is, Bruce. It has got to move make because
I've got a Ronie Clark standing by to chat to us.
He would remember the way he played the game and
I'm sure enjoyed the way that he sung the anthem
the other night. Good to chat to you, Bruce. I'm
sure that we can we can talk rugby again at
some stage in the future. Just on twenty three away from.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Eight Forts talk.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
One of the undoubted highlights of Saturday nights led Uslow
Cup Test at Eden Park, happened before the game had
even kicked off. The New Zealand national anthem, sung utterly
(28:10):
magnificently by former or Black Roney Clark, who's the dad,
of course, also of current or Black swinger Caleb Clark.
IRONI Clark is with us now. Congratulations are one on
a spine tingling rendition of our national anthem? When were
you approached initially to perform this very special role?
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Thanks, jas Well, I got to tell you that it
was from the Magic Monster that I was then on
the show the Mass Singing, and of course some of
the team at the in the office here obviously knew
that and they approached me. I met New zeal And
might be and so they asked me the events then
said Ronnie, would you consider doing a national anthem one day?
I looked at them and said, are you kidding? No way,
(28:52):
at least with the mass singer, your pre recording and
you've got the obviously you're underneath this mask and now
took some other things, and they asked and asked. So finally,
just before the South Africa test at Eden Park, I
went along to the sound check. I did it. I
thought I felt comfortable after a few times, and I thought, okay, yeah,
look I'll do it in twenty twenty six or twenty
(29:13):
twenty seven. No, in two weeks against Australia. Oh man,
I just got fell over.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Now, Caleb didn't know you were doing this. Was it
something that that you deliberately kept to as as few
people as possible?
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Yeah, well, I mean from I wanted to surprise my
wife and the kids, or well and my wider family,
but from having a player perspective, you know, having had
that experience, I just wanted Taylor to just focus on
the game. I didn't want to have him hanging over
him that is always dad, it's going to be singing
the endsum, and I didn't want him to speaking about
(29:48):
through the week and also thinking about that while he's
warming up. So I thought, I'll just have to surprise him,
and then he's just going to have to really keep
that focus.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
So were you also able to keep it from your
your wife and your family.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
As well, and even just about everyone outside of the
events city in the So yes, that was and that
was quite a challenge as well. I'm trying to practice
with the National Interem at home and I'm having to
hum little bits of pieces of it and I just
about blew my cover a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
And so on. On the night. Then did you just
sort of slip away and say, look, I'm just going
to go to the bathroom or I'm just going to
go and get you know, I get a snack. I'll
be back soon, and then all of a sudden you're
down on the field.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
That's right. Well the challenge also too, because because I
worked with you in Ragby, I was also hosting some
of our specific partners in the lounge and other things.
So the challenge and then so we're we're on our
way to the to the game and we're held up
there with the traffic at the Minion Road and the
events team are trying to find me. My cause I
finally got there, they zipped me straight down and I
(30:51):
had to leave my family. Levinski came up and said
it to me in front of him. Oh, Ronnie, we've
got the MC connect Live connect for you to do.
Can you come with us straight away?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Oh cover nearly blowing incredible. You look so relaxed. Were
you nervous?
Speaker 7 (31:10):
You know? I look back to my playing days, I'm
a wreck off the field. But when I'm on the
field and it's kick off and we're playing, I'm at
my calmes. So I'm standing there on the sideline together
with Sophie who was singing the Australian national anthem, and
the teams run past me and I'm thinking, don't look,
don't look me? Sure he's not turned around and looking
(31:32):
at you. I had a quick look anyway, he didn't
see me. So I'm standing there and fighting with my
mind with all that and trying to trying to engage
all those high performance things. Breeze slow down, and all
I could think fighting was remember the words, Remember the words,
and the other thought what am I doing here?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
And once you got onto it was a bit like
a game of rugby. Once the whistle goes and you're
away that you're fine. Once you got the first couple
of words out, you were away.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Absolutely as soon as the first they heard the introduction
and I started it, then I fell exactly like that.
And when the when the whistle blinds for kickoff, I
was at my calms and same as soon as I
started singing. And then from there it was just hearing
our hearing the crowd singing. It was incredible. And then
(32:21):
and as we got through the song, I wasn't even
I didn't know how Caleb was, but I really loved
the crowd of Eden Park singing together beautifully our national answer.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
And then you shared a special moment with Cayleb after
the anthem and just before the hawka, were you aboul
to exchange a few words at that.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
Point absolutely what was wonderful. I went to walk off,
but I just thought to turn to my right, and
as I turned to my lef, there he was walking
towards me, tears in his eyes, and he goes, you
didn't tell me, Dad, And I turned someone. That's right, son,
that's right now. It's your turn, your turn, now, go
(33:00):
go and play, give it your best, go, welcome back,
go now and playing. So yeah, with a hug. I
mean it certainly as a father, that's what really came
to me. Just as a father. I got to get
that hug in there and let them go before they kick.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Off, and had you got back to your viewing position
by the time he scored his try, because it was
only about three or four minutes.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Ten, I didn't realize. I was making my way up
to my seat and then got up there. I went, oh, great,
we're in the lead. That's brilliant. And my wife tells
me Is and she says to me, it was your
sonings called the try, and I just thought, wow, that
could not have been scripted so well.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
So yeah, and the performer says, I'm sure you know,
Ronnie has gone absolutely viral. How many people have sort
of been in touch to pass on their best wishes
and their congratulations. Do you.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
I've got to tell you this. My my text messages
have been over one hundred and the miss then the messengers,
then you've got the WhatsApps and even in fact, while
I was singing, I could feel in my pocket my
phone buzzing and buzzing and buzzing anduzzy.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Absolutely wonderful, Ernni. It was a special moment for all
of us, no doubt, a very special moment for you
and your family. Thank you for joining us to tell
us about the experience. And may there be many more,
many more occasions on which you sing the national anthem
for us before in all blacks test.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
No, thanks Jay, thanks just for having me on. I
did no whisper quietly to our events this morning. Don't
use me for a little while please, So thank you
very much.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I love it great to chat to you. ARONI thanks indeed,
Arone Clark there our dad of Caleb, proud dad of Caleb.
But man, what a performance the New Zealand national anthem
sung by a former player. That's a first, isn't it.
I don't think that's happened before. Surely it's not the
last time we hear arone Clark belt out our national
(34:51):
song before an All Blacks test sixteen away from it.
Let's take a right come back and rate the weekend
Piney's power rankings after this, please our ranking? Oh kaylet
it's right. The weekend pe His power rankings the Beast,
the worst and the in between from the last couple
of days. The Breakers throwing away a twelve point fourth
(35:14):
quarter lead to lose by eleven to the Perth Wildcats.
Still searching for that first one under new ownership, they
go on the.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Longest ride trip in the NBL.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
He's really I got some pumps.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Pump put me in the game, and I got him.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
And the Wildcats have rally.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
New Zealand led seventy four sixty four twinty four since then.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Goodn't I too little?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Says Anio nine.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
The Brisbane Lions are mauling of the Geelong Cats in
the AFL Grand Final.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Pick up here by Fletcher a superb the hands for
mccluggings and Neil.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
He says, you run, you're better at this than I am.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
He can sneak one here mcclugging's rams and.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
He's got another. This celebration is kick for mcclugging.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
He's gotta be in the voting.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
This is one of the right Grand Final victories that
I've ever seen. One twenty two to seventy five to
the Lions seat Crystal Palace a very late winner to
beat the Premier League leaders Liverpool Shoes. It's a kid
to you, absolutely, but load at all. Crystal Palace have to.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Build the champions leave the eighth.
Speaker 10 (36:32):
Committed a stuffaxe time.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
The Liverpool's unfeaturing start to the season is surely over.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Victory for Crystal Palace, who are the only unbeaten Premier
League side now. In fact, they're eighteen games unbeaten in
all competitions, including the last twelve in the Premier League.
Seven the Silver Ferns wrapping up the tiny Jamison series
and Grace Wiki taking the chance to ask their coach
to come back.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Noels, if you're listening, we love you and we miss
you and we want you back here. You've done so
much with us through the work you've done this whole year.
You deserve to be here and we want you back. No,
So thank you. Thank you to everyone for supporting us regardless.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Six the Black Ferns at six third at the Women's
Rugby World Cup, does well to get the skipper to Gregson,
Sirence and McGhee who puts her years down and finds
Georgia Miler.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Georgia Mala, She's done it all tournaments, Althos.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Laura Bayfield and they go back two pack.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Two back to back victory over France in the playoff
for third and four five top half. The All Blacks
are five back on track.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
And the Wallaby's huffed and puffed, but they can't quite
blow the Fortress down. At Eden Park, the bledders Low
Cup and All Black hands for another year victory the
way of the All Black thirty three twenty.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Four, defending the Fortress and retaining the bledder Slow Cup.
Speaker 8 (38:03):
Four.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Johnny Tata, you might not have heard of them, truck
driver from Wainuia Mata becoming just the second key we'd
had a nine data in a New Zealand ranking event.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
We go.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yes, yes, yeah, Johnny Tata, it's.
Speaker 10 (38:29):
Oh amazing.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Even better he did it in the final of the
dp n Z Pro Tour, qualifying him for the World
Darts Champs at Ellie Paley for the first time. The Warriors,
becoming the first team outside New South Wales to claim
the knock on effect New South Wales carp boy to
looker what's purged the ball coming.
Speaker 6 (38:52):
Through, skiing.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
To ever work and head he was there. Lassy Blassic
will take that tackle and the Warriors are twenty twenty five.
Speaker 9 (39:07):
Not that I think.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
New South whiles cap Grand Final.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Winners, backing up their minor Premiership status with a thirty
points to twelve win over the Dragons in the Grand
Final two. Still with League, the Broncos were a stirring comeback,
scoring sixteen unanswered points to make it through to the
NRL Grand Final.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Risbond final play of the game. Wolls will run it
Imals will run it all the way back of the
city to run the land of the Grand Final and
the tunnel in the nut extraordrant circumstance.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
The Broncos will play the Storm in the final day
in Penrith's hopes of a five peats one Nave Fisher
Black the first New Zealand cyclist female or male to
podium in the Elite Road Race of the World Champs,
coming home second at the Road World Champs in Rwanda.
The Elite Women's road race. Biship Black is just going
(40:01):
to crown this one home the three medals for the
three bravest riders. It seems out there, but let's wait
and see Fisher Black coming home for silver. Garcia is
going to take a Brinson so well full for that's
your medals. How good were those starts? Commentates I was
worried that they weren't going to deliver the appropriate level
of hype until they got gave that bellowing blow key
(40:24):
truck driving. That's that's fantastic, ah, Piney marvelous. I think
they might be a career for you in domestic darts commentary. Wonderful,
wonderful stuff. That's Piney's power rankings for tonight. They're back
again next Monday, seven to eight News Talks Here be
(40:45):
just on four away from eight on text. What a
lovely man, Aronie Clark is. I used to work with
Michael Jones, says the Texter, and he has that same
humility and calmness as Irony. That's a very good comparison.
And you're right, I mean, what a champion of a man,
Irone Clark, and just just such a the way he
told that story about out not wanting to interfere with
(41:09):
Caleb Clark's preparation for the test, and then he wanted
to surprise his wife and got down there. That's the
crazy thing, isn't it. Even when they announced over the
public address that it was a Roney Clark to be
singing the New Zealand national anthem, Caleb Clark didn't even click.
Then he didn't click until the New Zealand part of
(41:29):
the anthem. I had a quick chat him after the
game on Saturday during our coverage and you see, yeah,
it was when the New Zealand part started he looked
up at the screen and thought, hang on, that's my dad,
that's my dad, and that's when he got really emotional.
A wonderful moment for Caleb Clark, wonderful moment for Irone Clark,
(41:50):
wonderful moment for us all. It was spine tingling stuff.
We've had some good anthems this year, haven't we. The
Secondary score Pacific Choir doing the South African anthems and
then Irony Clark doing the New Zealand one. I wonder
which other all blacks might be contenders. Maybe they have
to have a All Black's idol anthem idol Marcus Lushes
(42:11):
on the radio after eight Thanks to Anny McDonald for
all your work mate, I enjoy a few days off.
We will see you at midday Saturday for weekend Sport
Live Now.
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