Jamie Joseph: All Blacks XV coach on his appointment to the role

Jamie Joseph is the new coach of the All Blacks XV.

He succeeds Clayton McMillan and will retain the existing assistant group of Jamie Mackintosh, David Hill and Cory Jane.

He joined Nick to discuss what he plans to bring to the role. 

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Waldergrave
from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
A't be but in news out in New Zealand Rugby
today they have of course had a coaching role to
Phil after Clayton McMillan left for Ireland, and this morning
they confirmed Highland as coach. Jamie Joseph would take up
the position as All Blacks fifteen coaches. Effectively New Zealand
a the second tier side. They've got three matches in
the UK in November. The team runs in alignment effectively

(00:35):
with the All Blacks who have their own tests in
that part of the world. At the same time, Jamie
Joseph is with us. Really appreciate you picking up the
phone and congratulations. Did you get a tap on the shoulder?
Did you apply? How has this all come about?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Well, I I guess you Zer and Roby have a
process internally and yeah, look I just got a phone
call from New Zeld Rugby and around my interest around
the role, and I guess you any opportunity to get
to coach at that level as a privilege, you know,
so I jumped at that opportunity and really looking forward
to the job.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
As mentioned, you're back into super rugby coaching, but it
has there been, not necessarily and it's to scratch, but
a bit of interest as you sort of alluded to
there and getting back into this sort of level of
coaching that the closest really to international rugby.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Absolutely coach in Japan for eight seasons and I've had
I've been home now for about eighteen months. So yeah,
just that opportunity again to coach you know, the cream of.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
New Zealand rugby and how the.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
All black coaches bring the next generation through is something
I'm really.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Looking forward to. I'm also looking forward to working with the.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Coaching team, you know, a couple of the boys I
actually coached, and Jimmy.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
McIntosh and Corey Jays, so those kinds of things really
excite me.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
And yeah, and it's a pretty grunty.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Tour as well.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
You know, game against the Barbers, came against England and
and then the game against the Goa in France.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I was going to ask around that how how important
is it to have some continuity in terms of those
assistant coaches were with Claydon McMillan last year, so they
know that the score of how this tour works and
how players can get sort of dropped back or pulled
elevated up to to All Blacks level.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
I think the continuation of the management team as crucial,
you know, with Clayton heating overseas, having Hilly in c
J and Whappa and the helm of coaching. I've been here,
done that, they were successful. Yeah, I've got a lot
to learn from those guys. It's a bit of a
different coaching gig as opposed to other teams. You know,

(02:39):
we kind of assemble on one day, head off on
the plane the next day and we're playing a week.
So I guess my key role really is to bring
their team together really quickly, you know, with the purpose
of trying out to win three Kiss matches.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Can you give our listeners an understanding?

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Then?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Do you pick the team or do the All Blacks
coaching personnel pick this team?

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, it's a sheer responsibility. The All Blacks obviously know
exactly who they feel as the next generation and I'm certainly.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
Have been in their position before.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
There's no there's no way I want to question the
select their selection. So it's that goes without saying. But
there's obviously when you're when you're taking sixty five players
thirty five for the All Blacks and will take a
square to thirty.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Then there's going to be opportunity for some.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Other guys that are perhaps shown some really good form
of the NPC. There are a number of injuries to
certain players that most probably would have been in the
New Zealand and fifteen, if not the All Blacks, So
we've got to cater for injuries. So yeah, there's a
there's a bit of both.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
I'd say two theories. It's that the teams comes.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
From the All Black coaches and there provides an opportunity
for us as coaches to scan the scope for the
NPC and and trying to identify the next generation JB.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Joseph with US.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Alignment obviously is critical given the history. And I feel
like I already know the answer to this question, but
I can't ask it anyway. Is there any awkwardness there
with with the All Blacks coaching crow in terms that
you know, aspiration aspirationally that where you wanted to be
you well past that.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
I wouldn't say the words awkward, man.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
You know, like the role really is is to help
the All Black coaches you know on Earth and find
the next guys who are going to be All Blacks.
There's some guys that might miss out on the All
Black team at the end of the year, and so
part of part of my job will be to give
them an opportunity and a different team to show that yeah,
perhaps they.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Should have been in their touring teams. So there's a
there's a there's a there's a string of things there.
There's no awkwardness from from myself.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Oh, I think that's just professional rugby and professional coaching.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
You look at obviously whatn know you're going to be
announced for this. You know this was going to be
made publicly today, but you would have had the opportunity
to scan through and scour through the the NPC. Jamie,
what do you make of our playing depths at the minute?

Speaker 3 (04:59):
No, I like a lot of the young guys coming through.
We're starting to see the New Zealand under twe side
who played in the final tournament. A lot of those
guys are featuring at the NPC level. There's a lot
of guys that have had their first year of Super rugby.
There's a there's a few cases like that and my
team in the Hollanders that have had one year in
the in the Super rabya now sort of playing very

(05:21):
well in the in the n PC and that and
that goes for a lot of those younger guys that
have perhaps had a taste of Super Raby but not
not necessarily not necessarily highly experienced guys at their level.
So No, I think there's there's a few guys are
showing a bit of excitement and great potential.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
So I'm looking forward to working with with those blokes.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
And just last week, how critical and given you've been
around the game a long time, how critical is exposure
to different styles of rugby? As you mentioned there guys
might have only played a little bit of NPC and
maybe some Super Rugby against you know, either other New
Zealand players or Australian players. How important is it in
their playing journeys to go to England, play against the
Barbarians team, play against European teams and know how or

(06:05):
what rugby looks like differently stylistically, for example.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
No, I think that's I think it's crucial.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
You know, we play, we played test matches, as you say,
and this this is the this is the kind of
a game that they play. Is the ability to get
on the plane and fly twenty seven hours you know,
to the UK and then be responsible to perform you know,
a week later. And it's all those kinds of different
challenges that our players are like the experience of that,

(06:34):
I think it's going to be invaluable. So I agree, man,
it's a it's a it's a it's a message development
tool for the next generation for sure.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
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