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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildergrave
from News Talk SEDB. Hello, Dan, good evening, Welcome in.
This is Monday night sports Talk on News Talks EDB

(00:27):
for November twenty four. Happy seventieth birthday to iconic England
all rounder Ian Botham Lord Botham who joined us on
weekend sport on Saturday, and William Webb Alice who, according
to legend, picked up the ball and ran with it
while a student at Rugby School was born on this

(00:50):
day in eighteen o six. So very happy two hundred
and nineteenth birthday to William Webb Alice. I'm Jason Pine.
The show's produced by Andy McDonald. We're talking sport with
you until eight. Speaking of Lord Botham, he was in
Perth over the weekend. Extraordinary scenes in Perth over the weekend,
and not even the whole weekend. The first Ashes Test

(01:13):
wrapped up inside two days on Saturday, lasting just one
hundred and forty one overs. If you had ninety hours
a day, you'd have four hundred and fifty just one
hundred and forty one. One of our best Test bowlers,
Neil Wagner, standing by to chat about this shortly then
it's your calls. Is this what Test cricket now is
glorified and slightly longer game of T twenty, particularly when

(01:39):
England are involved in it. I see that the two
day Test has been met with vitriol in some quarters.
In particular Sir Jeffrey Boycott has not pulled any punches
in his assessment of what played out in Perth. I
begin to hear your views. And the other part of
this is what does it do for the everybody one
step back from the Test? The fans for a start,

(02:02):
who perhaps had been looking forward to a day of
cricket on some day, the caterers, the broadcasters, the sponsors,
all of the other people associated with it, who I
guess enter into these arrangements and agreements with the quite
realistic perception that a Test match is maybe not going
to last five days, but certainly we'll get into the

(02:24):
third day anyway. Test cricket this out, Neil Wagner shortly
Also tonight, christ Church confirmed as a host city for
the Rugby League World Cup next October November. The tournament
was originally set for just Australia and Papua New Guinea,
but Tekaha Stadium, which is opening in April. Will host
a Kiwis and Kiwi Ferns doubleheader on Sunday, October twenty five.

(02:45):
What a treat for rugby league fans in the Garden City.
Chief executive at Venues Or taal Tahi, Caroline Harvey Tia
joins us on this and well, I've got it. I'll
be able to find out. Will Tekaa be ready for
its opening event, super Rugby's Super Round, which by my
calculations is exactly five months from today. Look, I'm pretty
sure they'll be ready to go. Every suggestion is that

(03:07):
they will be. But be good to get an update
from Caroline Harvey ta And on Monday nights we rate
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(03:30):
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Speaker 2 (03:33):
We've got the breakdown on sports Talk call oh eight
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Speaker 1 (03:41):
So the first Ashes Cricket Test was over inside two
days in Perth. The hero Travis Head, who cracked the
sixth equal fastest century in Test history to deliver Australia
and eight wicket win over England, guards it and gets
them one hundred short to sixty nine Dorns. But I'm

(04:04):
so sweet for Travis here. He was taken to the
top and he has absolutely.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Delivered christ team in one of the great Ashes hundreds.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
He preferred fastest one hundred for the Australia Nigue Test cricket. Yeah,
the standout performance. Although Mitchell Stark's ten wickets also in
that conversation, the entire match lasting just one hundred and
forty one overs. Let's bring in one of our greatest
fast bowlers and now cricket commentator, Neil Wagner Wax, thanks
for joining us tonight. What do you make of the fact,

(04:34):
first of all that the First Ashes Test was all
over inside two days.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Yeah, there's a lot being said about it, pony. Yeah,
I mean people will be unhappy not seeing obviously longer days.
I sew the chat about Australian losing millions, but for
me personally it come of count some high octane fast bowling,
which is incredibly hard to describe and explain when you

(05:02):
have I mean over probably five guys and six guys
at tes smash all bowling under over one hundred and
forty klometers per hour.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
At high speeds.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
The bounds that they extracted out of a surface, there's
nothing wrong with that surface. That we've come across that
surface before and that's just what you deal with there.
But when you have eight bowlers running in that extract
steve bounce and high pace and make that extremely hard
as the bowlers. For a bowling point of view, it's

(05:34):
quite exciting.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
It looks good.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, player spectator point of view, you obviously I beg
to differ because you want to watch more action and
for longer, but you got you can't. I don't know
where you could say take your head off for travisse
here the energy played and done, we've done.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
I think they'll sit back and reflect and say because
they've done differently, be cause they've bowl different because they've
done spread eyone onto the field and bowls to the
white hole to try and get them off strike and
then go to the more conventional field to go like
harness and the bill push it that way, but you
can't take away the energs he played was a phenomenal
innings that actually took the game to be able to go,

(06:16):
you know, a lot quicker than what everyone.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Thought it would go in terms of facing the bowling
that you talk about, and it was, as you say,
high quality bowling on a wicket that was probably conducive
to you know, to bowling quick like that. Should England
have just been less aggressive with the bat?

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, you can argue both ways. You could say you
can try and you write it out and fight it
out sometimes on wicket like that. I mean when they
started betting in the back end when Travis y got runs,
there's no doubt that the surface to get affraction easier
than what it was obviously, you know a couple of
hours before that.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
We know from our personal experience in perfect it was sort.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Of like that your gets through to you know, sort
of day two, morning, afternoon. Off, it starts getting easier,
then it starts getting quicker. There's a time where it's
going to be a little bit easier to bat, but
you sort of stand there and try and fight of it,
and you get one of your name on it, which
just Steve bounce moving away and you nick it off.
I think knowing the way England probably played as they knew.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
There was obviously something in the surface.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Was thinking to be able to score runs quicker, to
be able to get the conditions to bowl on when
it was still nipping and having their pace and bounce
in the surface. There's a period where on day three
it becomes probably the easiest to bat, and then day four,
day five the cracks starts coming to play, and then
as a bowler when you bowl last on it, that's
where it gets really.

Speaker 6 (07:39):
Tough and their variable bounds.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
The day three was arguably going to be the best
to bats. I think maybe England thought, hey, scoring runs
quick while something is an offer. Two hundred runs, two
hundred and fifty runs is going to be a very
tough score at that time because the game was so
far advanced and so quickly advanced that you could still
have something in it with the bowlers. Rather than getting
to point of a day three is probably the best
on to bat, it's more just where how fast that

(08:03):
game advanced. So yeah, you conpect to different there's a
bit of both in it, but then it doesn't take
away from guys bowling high one hundred and forty close
to hundred and fifty and touching under these guys with
bolt On hundred fifty plus pour on one of the steepest,
fastest bounces workets in the world.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
What about the fact that England's second innings was so
short that their bowlers didn't have a heck of a
lot of time to recover from, you know, from bowling
against Australia in the first innings. As a fast bowler,
how important is it for your team to bat for
a while to allow you to get some rest and
recovery in.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Yeah, that's big, especially when you have the four week
boards boiling you know, over one hundred and forty plus.
Like I said, steaming in binder cast maybe the only
Bolerho's been doing it for a number of years for
a while. I've got the miles on his legs. For
Joffra mark Wood, the other guys, they wouldn't have had
this impact on the body, I guess for quite some time,

(09:00):
and then on a test level to not have the
rest it becomes crucial.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
Yeah, definitely, especially imperfect way. They were pretty lucky.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
I think from all accounts that I heard, wasn't as
hot as well it normally gets in purs The temperatures
were as high as what you sort of expect, so
that doesn't take as much anybody. But yeah, definitely running
and buying that pace for a day, you'd want to
get some rest and to be able to back it
up and go again. So yeah, it wasn't sure nothing,
And I think England will know that. You know, they

(09:29):
lost five workers quite quickly for not many runs that
they would have had a big impact if they if
they could have got more runs together, anything from turn
and fiftieth roundred was a score they're going to back
themselves to defend. I think how fast the game advanced
with two hundred odd runs, they still would have backed themselves.
But like I said, Travis Head comes out, opens the

(09:52):
batting and plays the absence sublime knock, which he's done
in the World Stage a number of times now through
all different formats.

Speaker 6 (09:59):
You've got to tip your hat and say, well well played.
And I think they were a little bit shocked.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
I think England, you sort of look at the way
how they went about it. I don't think they expected it,
and in things, because it's such a short game, so
fast paced, unfought so quickly before you look up, you go, ah, damn,
we should have proably typed dos tried that and hindsight
always but yeah, from afar, when you sit on the couch,
it always looks for a easier game. We sit there and
you go, gosh, just by a lighthole, push everyone on

(10:27):
the boundary, just.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
Get them off strike.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
But when someone was clearing the rope like yours, you
sort of and you sort of kept thinking. With the
surface of ways we're playing, you're half a chance away.
You know, some who go to hand before you know it,
the guy scores one hundred of the sixty odd deliveries.
The game has been taken completely away from you by
a piece of brilliance.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Indeed, just on England's batting, have some all format players
lost the ability or the desire even to bat for
long periods?

Speaker 6 (10:58):
Well, that's a good question.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
I think in testimates you've got in one day credit.
We saw that won this series when they were over here.
You've got so much more time in your hands. It's
almost like they've just got the one grouprint and messod
of playing and they stick.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
In turn, it's being able to adapt, I guess and
conditions all over the world.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
But having played counter cricket the last couple of years
and the teest messess have played in England, the surfaces
over there have been extremely slow and extremely flat.

Speaker 6 (11:24):
There's been a.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Lot of high run scored in county cricket that try
to bring cucobra balls into into playing counter crea to
try and promote as the bowl fast. I don't necessarily
sort of agree with that because the schools, I think
back on memory sorr he scored eight hundred in the

(11:44):
first innings, scores like that in for that cricket, everyone
scoring one hundred at run a ball. That's sort of
I guess brings that technique with guys are starting to
play one at cricket and afford a game or as
white ball players, they sort of tee off and be
quite aggressive. And a lot of the games county cricket,
especially start has.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
Played on.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Squeeze on the side where it makes for a small
boundary and because the teach win a cook at the
day bats is the entice to take the shorter boundary
on and obviously allows different strope plays. I think that
starts creeping into the game, and it creeps into the
game and to test cret I mean, they've got a
coach who's alter aggressive and the way he played, but
he was very smart the way he did it. He

(12:27):
selected his moments, he knew when and where and how
to do it, and when he had to dig it out,
he did it. I think it's just comes down to here.
You want to play a aggressive brand, you want to
be attacking and throw a few punches. But it's the
smart of knowing when and earning that right to be
able to do it at the moment. Yeah, you can
look at the Sistles the.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
Way they get out.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
They're sort of trying to back their game, but as
a bowl is presenting opportunities and giving a chance. But
and I said, you also look at it and go,
we've seen what they've done in our conditions here, Harry
Brook and those guys, the way they've played. You know,
someone who's him come off and score one hundred quite quickly,
as like Travis, he did a taxica prit their away
from you. So yeah, there's room for both of them.

(13:09):
But you've got to be smart and be able to
adapt quite quickly. And I think, yeah, they missed the trickers.
I think they were heading that Test match. They look
like they had Australia and used pressure and being able
to put them on the pump in our conditions, and
one little short session changed it all where they I
guess they lost the game in that short session and

(13:31):
by a piece of brilliance from Clarisse Seed.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Thanks so much for your insight, Waggs. Loving your work
in TV commentary, mate, I appreciate you. You joining us tonight,
Thank you, mate, appreciate it. No, thank you Wags. Neil
Wagner there with his thoughts on this, keen for yours
as well. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty anything
you've picked up on there, all your thoughts on the
implications of the way Test cricket is now being played,
not by everybody, but especially by England. Imagine if you

(13:58):
had tickets to Day three. I said this yesterday on
Weekend Sport. If you had tickets to day three of
the first Ashes Test, and thousands and thousands of people
will have I think they were expecting a sellout, which
is sixty thousand people. So sixty thousand people would have
had tickets yesterday. Families who could only afford to attend

(14:18):
one day would have chosen yesterday Sunday as the day
they got along corporates, a lot of them would have
selected it as the day they bring their clients to
the test and wine and dine them in those corporate areas.
I mean, what about all the food that's been ordered
in advance, ready for the thousands and thousands of hungry

(14:40):
and thirsty patrons yesterday. What happens to all that food
and drink. Cricket fans of all types would have planned
to day at the cricket yesterday, but there's no cricket
for them because in the space of one hundred and
forty one overs, the game's done. I've seen various estimates
about how much Cricket Australia have lost in ticket revenue.
It's in the millions because they've had to refund everybody

(15:04):
for Day three and beyond, and any seats that were
left for Day three, four and five obviously are not
now going to be sold. And there's also Cricket Australia's partners.
They're sponsors who have ground signage and the like, and
those sponsors expect exposure on television for up to five days,
not three days, not two days, and then you get

(15:26):
the broadcasters. The broadcasters pay big money for the rights
to the cricket and they also expect to have five
days of content for their subscribers and also recoup some
of the investments for advertising with the quite sensible expectation
they'll have five days of cricket to slot those ads into.

(15:46):
But for the every day cricket fan, me and you,
it's it's the denying of live sport a day at
the cricket I mean these days, we don't expect every
Test to go five days. I think we know that
some Tests are over quicker than that, but we expect
them certainly to get to day three, don't we. And
this wasn't a two day Test because of any demons

(16:09):
in the wicket. It wasn't a mine field, and it
wasn't ut a mismatch where one team just got bowled
out cheapley twice. These are two of supposedly the best
Test teams in the world starting their battle for the
oldest prize in the game. Theyse to have been playing
Test cricket against each other one hundred and forty eight years,
and all of a sudden, the current crop have either

(16:29):
forgotten how to play this form of the game, or
they just can't be bothered with it. What happened to
the basics of Test cricket Occupying the crease, playing yourself in,
you know, get into grips with the pitch, the conditions,
the opposition bowlers, and then putting a price on your wicket,
building partnerships and grinding the other team down, keeping them
out in the hot sun for as long as you

(16:52):
possibly can, but of application, as Neil Wagner said, earning
the right to then cash in. Look, I'm not saying
you block every ball, Absolutely not. You can still be
positive and aggressive, but you have got so much time.
England were well ahead in that Test match. They were
effectively one hundred ahead for the loss of one wicket

(17:15):
in their second innings. They had all the time in
the world to build a lead, but in the space
of eighteen overs they lost their remaining nine wickets for
less than one hundred. They just went patient. Enough. Is
this what Test cricket now? Is just a slightly longer
game of white ball cricket? If it is, I guess

(17:35):
that's okay, But we have to have a serious chat
about scheduling five day Test matches. Don't we seven twenty four.
Let's go to the lines. Oh eight hundred eighty ten
eighty you thought to welcome hello, Tim?

Speaker 7 (17:48):
You good a toney?

Speaker 1 (17:48):
How are you all really good?

Speaker 8 (17:50):
Tim?

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Thanks?

Speaker 6 (17:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (17:52):
So it's an anomaly what just happened. Stuff happens sometimes.
I mean New Zealand's still hold the lowest Test for
ever of twenty six. Finally enough against England. They needn't hard.
Stuff happens. And yeah, I mean if anyone has any

(18:13):
expectations of any sporting fixture, well you know that's on men.
And I know they're a commercial intests, but it's it's
a There are no shut outcomes.

Speaker 6 (18:26):
Are they?

Speaker 7 (18:27):
I mean no, No, you've breakouted the other week when
England today with the all wacks.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Stuff happens, So do you expect I think, I think Tim,
though the reason it happened this way was because of
England's approach to Test cricket, and I think that's what's
probably sticking in the craw of a few formal players
in particular and Test cricket purists that it just doesn't
seem as though, well England really care about Test cricket
anymore if they're just going to throw the bat at

(18:56):
everything and not not think about the fact they've got
five days to get a result and they were in
a good position in that Test match.

Speaker 7 (19:04):
Well that's under the direction of the key with, isn't
it so the coach, So maybe maybe take it up
with him. And you know, once they go each month
they hit the Gabba and that side of the country,
atmospherics are going to be different, humidity, that kind of thing.
So I think we'll see more even contests, That's what

(19:26):
I think. I don't expect it, but you know, I
think I think we hand massive credit to the Australians
where it's due and not so much sort of putting
the boot into England. I think they got soundly beaten
and I expect anyone else would have on that day.

(19:48):
I mean, the Aussies brought it and they they smashed it.
You know, they did a dismantling and it is embarrassing
for England, but you know they you know, stuff rolls downhill,
isn't it from the coach and the coaching stuff, So
there's always that.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Indeed, Tim, I thanks for kicking us off mate with
some well reasoned thoughts. Yeah, I think, yeah, you do
have to praise Australia of course, and Travis Head's innings
and in a low scoring Test was just phenomenal. And
he was very aggressive, wasn't he. It wasn't like he
was circumspect. So maybe there is something to this. Somebody

(20:26):
made the point earlier. Oh here it is, Gavin Piney.
I'm not sure what to make of the quick result
in the Ashes Test. On one hand, I think it
makes a bit of a joke of it all. But
on the other hand, it wasn't that long ago we
used to complain that we'd go through all five days
and still not get a result. It's a very good point.
Gavin Wayne says the same thing. I must say. Although
the game finished early, it was certainly entertaining. So hopefully

(20:50):
both sites can now move on to the Second Test
and get out of twenty twenty mode.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
Jamie High evening Bonny. One thing that hasn't been sort
of mentioned was that Trevor said wasn't originally supposed to
open the Australian linings in the second mining any reason.
He did because Coward got injured. So if if that
happened to I mean, who knows, they might have you know,

(21:15):
there could have been effected. But anyway, Yeah, just there's
something that Waves alluded to and also Michael Vaughan is
is also about playing but is it anything you play
smart but you play for the gears, Like I mean,
there's a time to be aggressive, the intake to attack
to the opposition, but there is the time to sort
of like, well, you know you've got to you got

(21:36):
to you gotta wear the ball is off like you
were talking about earlier as well. So I mean it's
just yeah, it's just a guess is a balance balancing thing.
I mean, I mean if I was an England passport
having come off the field and and then twenty overs
later you're you know, you're you're you're exposed to Benning again,
I wouldn't probably want to. I probably wouldn't want to. Yeah,

(22:02):
it's a difficult one. I wouldn't I wouldn't be hopefully
probably be saying one or two instead.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
The bet I would be to Jamie I would be
to I'd be if I'm if I'm Mark Wood, Joffra Archer,
Brydon Cass, Gus Atkinson, I'm saying what are you blokes
up to? You know, like root Brook, root Brook and
Stokes in particular, they just throwing their hands in these
things and and going through the gears is such a
good way of explaining it, Jamie. It just feels as

(22:27):
though England need to go from nought to one hundred
and three seconds without and they were. They were in
control of that Test. They were sixty five for one
and their second innings a lead of one hundred on
in a low scoring Test with so much time, Duckett
and Pope could have really ground Australia down.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
You know, they're probably the two batsmen that have broiyed
themselves in both of them. Saw Harry Brook got a
fifty in the first innings. But yeah, I mean just like, yeah,
the rest they were just like I mean, definitely entertaining
to watch. But I mean, yeah, yeah, you want to
try and play the try and play the win, and
that's suddenly you know, just it's important to sort of

(23:08):
do the do do the hard grind at times as well,
you know, rather than just go first first all the time.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
But yeah, indeed, and it'll be it'll be so interesting
to see whether they change their approach. I don't think
they will, Jamie. You know, they'll come under immense pressure
to but Brendan McCallum and Ben Starks or saying I
know this is how we play and it's not always
going to come off, and they talk about the collateral
damage being something like this, but I just think it's
now so deeply ingrained in their DNA they won't change unless,

(23:34):
you know, if they lose this ASHES series five NOL,
then they might be in different kind of change. But
I don't think they're going to change their approach.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, I think it's yes,
just sort of a you're frustrated. When mckellum was playing
for us, you know, he just sometimes it sometimes it
look really aggressive and then a lot of times have
come off and sometimes it didn't.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
But anyway, Yeah, good on you, Jamie. Great to chatty mate,
Thanks for calling and appreciate it. Let's hope the second
Test and the ones beyond go beyond two days because
I was looking forward to watching it. I love my
Test cricket, you know, and it's a great time to
Perth as well. But it's because it's you know, the
extra few hours. You'd see hell in at three in
the afternoon and you got you know, it got to
well after dinner to watch Test cricket. Well, you would

(24:19):
have it was some on Cliff, Chris, please hold with
you after this twenty nine to eight News Talks, he'd be.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Forget the riffs.

Speaker 7 (24:25):
Call you make a call on.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Sports Talk on your home of Sports News Talks twenty
six away from eight talking the ashes, Cliff, thanks for
holding good evening, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (24:40):
Even piney. Look, that was a pretty good wicket. It
wasn't bad. It wasn't breaking up, it wasn't doing too
much off the wicket or in the year. Look, it
was the first Test of the series and guys do
team the fleshy outside the off stump a little bit?
You know, there was nerves, nerves in the first and

(25:00):
ease Look start bowl well and you know you've got
a seven fa you say for England to get to
the position where you know the battles they got themselves
a lead or the lead they were, you know, like
one hundred to one, and they threw it away. They
did the same thing here two years ago when they

(25:20):
played at the Basin. They had that Test in the
bag at the Basin against the back Caps and they
chucked it away. They were just too keen to finish
it too quick and that's the problem with it. England
Beddy Joe Ruth has got a group of average in Australia.
He's a class player, but he's never has average in

(25:42):
Australia is about thirty five. And to me, these guys
are going to go over there and say, look, I've
got to make buns. I've got to make something, because
I can't expect guys that betting at seven and eight.
Who were the guys that really made they got them
a lead. The two guys batting it at eight and

(26:02):
nine they actually were they got I think they put
on like sixties runs for the seventh wicket and they
had to go out there and bowl straight away because
you know, England are just a disappointment. You know, if
I was coming over from England following the side, I'd
be disappointed to think that they can't get past the

(26:25):
third day. And I don't really expect them to. I
think there's ashes second Test at the Gabba. It's going
to be a peat ball. If it doesn't work out
particularly good for England when they get to bowl at
the twilight, the ball might's sway you a bit more.
I don't think they're going to win a Test I
don't think they've got the bottle. I think they're too

(26:46):
and discress. You know, they came here and played the
fifty over one day serious against us, and none of them.

Speaker 8 (26:55):
That the.

Speaker 9 (26:57):
Young guy battered at five he made runs. The rest
of them were just two lacks a day'sical about it
and they're carrying on the same stuff. And Bears has
got to get something gone about the side or he's
going to get the sack.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
You know.

Speaker 9 (27:13):
To me, if you have to spend big money and
hire a gun coach, go for someone like flem He's
a guy that knows cricket. He knows how to win,
he knows how to play against other sides. You know,
when South Africa came here in two thousand and five,
I think it was six, they had a quality team
captain by Graham Smith and Flen worked them over. He

(27:37):
set great fields, put pressure on them. But Dans is
going to think he's just going to come out with
two or three bowlers and bowler in the late one
forties and then his openers are going to get and
hit it all over the place. He ain't going to
do any good in Australia because they're not going to
get themselves in that position where they're going to let
them do that.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Brilliant analysis, Cliff, Thanks mate. I've got to move on
to Chris before I moved to another topic. But no
great analysis, mate. I war Briny Mullum went and he
said this. He said, if you need two hundred off
eighty balls, you only need to hit twenty of those
balls for six and then you just need eighty off sixty.
That's the way his mind works. He's always thinking about

(28:18):
the best case scenario and he's right mathematically, he's right.
But there are lots of different ways doing a Test match,
and I just wonder whether the not to one hundred
under all circumstances is necessarily the right way to go. Chris,
how are you?

Speaker 10 (28:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Good party things?

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
As I'm just watching just before I talked about that,
I'm just watching the second Test in India, and India
have gone from ninety five to one round and twenty
three for seven.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Have they? Yeah, if they'll be miles behind, they'll have
to follow on, won't they that they were? Because what
at four eighty odd?

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, there's three fifty behind. Oh my goodness, and Africa
already won.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Up jeepers cheepers. Well, are annoyingly good, annoyingly good at
a lot of things at the moment, aren't they South Africa?

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Well, yeah, and they won the World Test Championship Calidossi
and they and they're doing what we did and you
know it could be three, you know three Noel, Hey,
I'm going to gather next week and I'll tell you what.
Stokes and McCallum I have got problems. Cummins are going
to be back starts, the best exponent with a pink
ball in the world.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, yeah, Have you got tickets for all five days? Chris?

Speaker 2 (29:31):
No, no, no, I've got ticket tickets first, first couple
of days. And yeah, he wouldn't want you don't want
to debarcle like that. You know, I felt sorry for
a lot of those fans, you know, But honestly, mccallury,
you're right. McCallum I said last night on the TV
News is they're not changing the process. Well, I'll tell
you what. I've watched a reason about a creek in

(29:52):
Australia and you know, if about it, the basketball won't
work completely in Australia because you've got to play off
the back foot of lot.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, you're right, Chris, You're right, and look I wish
you well in Brisbane, mate, and I hope you get
more than a couple days. Got a move, mate, but
always enjoyed chatting to you, especially on cricket. Thanks Indeed,
twenty one to eight. Christ Church has been confirmed as
a host city for the Rugby League World Cup next
October November. The tournament was originally set down for just
Australia and Papua New Guinea, but Tekaha Stadium, which opens

(30:23):
in April, we'll host the Kiwis and Kiwi Ferns double
header on Sunday October. The twenty fifth Chief executive of
Venues Autel Tahi is Caroline Harvey Tia, who joins us.
This is great news for the league fans of christ Church. Caroline,
how did it all come about?

Speaker 8 (30:39):
Well, look, I guess NRL saw the saw this wonderful
new stadium and christ Church here and decided they might
branch out. Look, we've had a long standing conversation with
rail about one new Gilain Stadium in christ Church and
it was a competitive process and we managed to persuade

(31:02):
them that it was time to bring a little bit
of that rugby league content for the World Cup here
into christ Church. So, as I say, it was a
competitive process and chrosh Church came out on top.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
How big do you think the fact that this is
a bright, shining new stadium was in that persuasion process.

Speaker 8 (31:20):
Oh, look, it absolutely makes a difference. You know, we've
got and we'll have the best stadium in the country.
The roof makes a difference, all of those things, as
well as having the best city to host this type
of event. But look, at the end of the day,
we we have a great relationship with NRAL and christ

(31:41):
Church has a very strong rugby league fanbase here, so
all of those things ed up. But of course having
a brand new stadium makes a massive difference. But I
think this is just the start of things to come.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Well, you've already got the Warriors coming of course in
June to play the Cowboys. That's locked in our rugby
league events A particular target for.

Speaker 8 (31:58):
You, Yeah, definitely. We want to see dovers content in
the stadium and that's not just traversing sport but obviously entertainment.
So we want to see rugby, we want to see
rugby league, we want to see a league football. We'd
love to see an exhibition Premier league, you know, and
even start to look at things like boxing, tennis, you know,
making it taking advantage of the multi use functionality of

(32:19):
that venue, so diversity of content and the fact that
the stadium is purpose built as a multi use facility.
We want to absolutely leverage that for the city.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
The first event at Tika has Super Rugby's Super Round
of course over Amzac weekend, starting with Crusader's waratas Friday,
April twenty four. It's November twenty four today, so what's
that five months exactly? Are you going to be ready?

Speaker 8 (32:41):
We're going to be ready. Yeah, yeah, We've been planning
for this for four years. The city's been waiting fifteen
so we aren't too far away. I think it's just
under one hundred and fifty days now. Look, it's ambitious,
you know. We official handovers the twentieth of April twenty
twenty six, and that first game is on the twenty fourth,
so we're hoping to see seventy five thousand people there

(33:04):
across three days all well, and truly they're ready.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Absolutely, what is still to be done? If you took
me for a tour through there today, what is it
almost finished as a cosmetic Now what is still to
be done.

Speaker 8 (33:18):
Look, the big thing still to be done is the tooth,
so the turf installation is the most material thing still
to go. But if you walk around there now, you
can pretty much imagine yourself watching and enjoying all of
the food and beverage hospitality that will be in their
premium hospitality looks almost complete, all of the concourse and

(33:41):
the retail food and beverage outlets, all the player facilities. Yeah,
look it looks absolutely beautiful and now that that roof
is finished, it feels amazing.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Now, presumably there'll be an All Blacks test there next
year as well. Do you know which one you're going
to get?

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Well?

Speaker 8 (33:59):
Yes, look those are those allocations. Will we announced for
twenty six and twenty seven in the next wee while.
But look, we haven't seen all Black rugby here regularly
for a long time. I think we've had two matches
in the last twelve It'll be longer fourteen to fifteen years.
So look, we can't wait for our community to start

(34:19):
seeing our national team here a little bit more often.
So we're looking forward to those announcements that will be
coming up brilliant stuff.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Do you have like a calendar on your wall or
something that you take off it day by day? Do
you have a sort of a countdown of some sort
that you I know, you know it in your head,
but do you do you have something like that?

Speaker 11 (34:37):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (34:37):
We do. Yeah, we've been counting down the days for gosh,
probably about three years. And it's funny because we've been
invested and so heavily involved in design and obviously through
commercial planning and then commercial transactions have been happening for
the last two years, you know, operational readiness, we're in

(34:58):
that sort of intensive program now. But it's funny like
now that we're right at the point of end, it
almost feels like the runways very very quickly got very
very short. But look, we're very very much ready and
I think emotionally ready and operationally ready. So but yeah,
the countdown is real, that's for sure.

Speaker 7 (35:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Well, I know, the good folk of christ it's the
sports fans there, the diet and the wall sports fans,
we'll be counting down the days as well. So Super
Rugby Super Round, ANZAC weekend and this announcement about Rugby
League World Cup action for the Keys and the Kiwi Ferns.
Just another date to put a circle around Carolin. Always
great to catch up. Thank you for taking the time.

Speaker 8 (35:37):
No worries at all. We can't wait to heave you
down here and celebrate with us. Well.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
I will certainly be coming for super Round, don't you
worry about that, Caroline, Tickets already booked. Thanks indeed, Caroline
Harvey Tier, Chief executive at Venues Audulte seven forty five.
When we come back rate the weekend Piney's Power Rankings base.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Our rankings.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
On Monday nights, we rate the weekend time for Piney's
Power Rankings the beast, the worst and the in between.
From the last seventy two hours. Liam Lawson's at ten
through no real fault of his own disaster during the
opening lap of Formula one Las Vegas Grand Prix. And
is that damage god Lawson's front wick. It is the
front right of the front of the wing is up

(36:24):
in the air using a lot of downforce. Theres so
he's going to probably up to fit. Such a shame.
After starting sixth on the grid, Lawson appeared to have
no room at turn one, causing him to bump into
the McLaren of Oscar Piastre. Dan Hooker at nine. He
gave it a crack, but ultimately outclassed by top ranked
contender Arman Serukian in the UFC Lightweight main events, and

(36:47):
Cutter deciding whether or notough to step off because he
could lose possession because.

Speaker 6 (36:51):
He get the chold.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
You can tell Dan's kind of weet eye out dependent
now Dan Hooker down Man so route Jenney's back at contention. Yeah.
Dan hook At dispatched three and a half minutes into
the second round, tapping out in a triangle chokehold. Sheat

(37:13):
Two day Test cricket a win for Australia, a remarkable wind,
a memorable wind, perhaps a famous wind on the back of.

Speaker 10 (37:25):
Mitchell starts haying up with ten wickets and a master class.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
A counter attack for the Tavish head is struck like
a lightning volt. Australia draw first blight. They go one
miilla Yeah, but a hyperbole. They're Perth cricket fans completely
short changed by a Test which didn't even get into
the third day.

Speaker 11 (37:44):
Seven.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
The spring Box were the first one over Ireland in
Dublin for thirteen years and if advance, the.

Speaker 11 (37:50):
Irish drum pulverized once more, fine bag and Gomazoo.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Sutter.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
You sit the stard side through the depleted defense of
the Irish, flexing their muscles again. Then undoubtedly the number
one side in the world. Twelve wins from fourteen tests
this year, one to come against Wales this weekend. Six
the Breakers are one two ninety six win over the

(38:17):
Taipe Pans. In Ken's rocking said again a nice mid range.
Mcvay's tried all.

Speaker 10 (38:23):
He can to no avail the New Zealand Breakers pretty
much lad from start to finish, and they end up
winning this game by six points.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Starting to climb the table ever so slightly that victory,
jumping the Breakers from ninth to seventh on the anbl ladder.
Five into the top half. We find the All Blacks
ending the year with a flourish against Wales and Cardiff.

Speaker 12 (38:48):
Ranging around now takes on their line, gets around them,
buying I'm not a one armed pat Sarika Joanni all
left pan side and Kyle fly We'll get that thickened.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
After all fifty against Wales, ten wins, three defeats and
a few questions to answer. Still at the half point
of the Rugby World Cup Cycle four Arsenal the Gunners
a demolition job in the North London derby the.

Speaker 11 (39:14):
Amritza Robs a quite successional performance not just from hacker
Gerald as a butt with the full force of fifteen
years of home dominance in North London.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
The four to one win over Tottenham taking Arsenal six
points clear at the top of the Premier League Ladder three.
The black Caps are three sweeping the Western He's in
their three match ODIEI series.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
On skyde offside, A lot of work to do, Mitchell
center tracking back. It takes an excellent catch, couldn't resist
the temptation outside off stump and Matt Henry.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Gets the job done. So the two teams now put
the Whites on for a three test series two. The
Wellington Phoenix women beating Melbourne victory for the very first
time in eight meetings.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
This is Jarley, our Wivesnea Elliott.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
What's the crosshead?

Speaker 4 (40:07):
All the work?

Speaker 5 (40:07):
What's the game?

Speaker 1 (40:11):
The Phoenix av lead?

Speaker 6 (40:14):
What the go?

Speaker 1 (40:15):
That is thirty eight minutes on the clock, Phoenix lead
and one one n Old Teenager p of lock with
the goal giving Wellington their first win under bee of Priestman.
They're unbeaten after three rounds. Fabian Holland named World Rugby's

(40:35):
Breakthrough Player of the Year.

Speaker 13 (40:37):
Such a roller coaster, so you pretty much just head
down and go from game to game. But I'm sure
that now that season is over, I'll probably have some
time to reflect the wee bit and enjoy the wee bit. Yeah,
it's been one hell of a ride.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
They're cheating having the All Blacks and Fabian Holland in
there separately.

Speaker 14 (40:55):
Absolutely not finding absolutely not. Hey, I wonder actually, instead
of you know how you can get a free version
of a paid for app and it's called whatever that
app is light, why don't we do two T day
Test cricket scheduled and call it Test Cricket.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Lights, so you only have the two days.

Speaker 14 (41:13):
Yeah, and that way the basballers can get all their
little wee basball out of them early and then we
do it get into the proper Test cricket a bit later.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
On Test Cricket Lights.

Speaker 14 (41:22):
I think England they might be accidental pioneers.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
I think you're onto something. Piney's Power rankings back next Monday,
six and a half to eight. News Talk's Muzz on
Tech says with the christ Church coming online. Wellington Stadium
should be a bit worried. Piney Well. There are only
four all Blacks tests next year, of course, with the
South African Tour, the Greatest Rivalry Tour and the New
Nation's Championship. There are only four home tests. We play France,

(41:51):
Italy and Ireland here in July and then the Bledisloe
Cup Test in October.

Speaker 7 (41:57):
So just the four.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
I'd imagine that Eden Park would get the Australia Test.
Christ Church will absolutely get one of the tests in July,
probably France or Island. That and he leaves too, doesn't
it for others like Dunedin and Wellington and Hamilton maybe
tho I have to at Eton Park. Who knows all
to be revealed in the next little while. Thanks for
listening into Sports Talk tonight. Thanks to Annie McDonald for producing.

(42:20):
As always, have an excellent couple of days off, mate.
We will see you on Weekend Sport on Saturday. From
midday Marcus Lush is on your radio after eight o'clock
to take you through the rest of your Monday.

Speaker 12 (42:30):
Have a good one.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
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