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September 17, 2024 15 mins
Dr. Warren Morgan is Chief Executive Officer for Cleveland Metropolitan School District where he leads one of the largest school systems in Ohio. As an experienced educator, Dr. Morgan recognizes the potential of every child and advocates for equity and excellence. He previously served as Chief Academic Officer in Indianapolis, as Executive Director for Teach for America, as a Network Leader of Cleveland's investment turnaround schools, as a high school principal in Chicago Public Schools, science teacher in St. Louis where he was awarded Outstanding Teacher, and he began his career with the Illinois Senate.

Dr. Morgan also had the pleasure of working for both Presidents Obama and Trump as a prestigious White House Fellow. He currently serves on the Board of the White House Fellows Foundation Association.

Dr. Morgan holds a Bachelor's from Butler University, where he served as student body president; a Master’s from the University of Missouri- St. Louis; and a Doctorate from the University of Illinois–Chicago. He is an alum of the Broad Fellowship at Yale University. He is an active member of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Cleveland CEOs. You should know. I'm Keith Kennedy.
Today a conversation with doctor Warren Morgan. He's the chief
executive officer for the Cleveland Metropolitan School District. And doctor Morgan,
I know that you've been around Cleveland Metropolitan Schools for
a while. You took the position of CEO just about
a year ago. But where are we with education here
in the fall of twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I've had the honor of serving here for a little
over a year. I've worked in the district about ten
years ago at the very beginning of the previous CEO's tenure,
and I got a chance to see what our district
looked like at the very beginning of what is called
the Cleveland Plan here, which is legislation that we had

(00:43):
to increase choice within our system also improve the quality
of schools. So I saw where we were at the
very beginning, and to be here now, you know, nearly
at a ten almost fifteen years later, to see the
progress of this has been great. There's been a lot
of great progress made, progress made, and graduation rates progress made,

(01:07):
and student proficiency progress made in terms of choice options.
But I will say you know a couple of things
that you know has stunted that growth. One has been
the pandemic. When you think about the pandemic that happened
in twenty twenty, districts across our country saw students losing
ground in terms of proficiency, culture, and climate indicators showing

(01:32):
that students need more mental health services. So these are
areas that we're really focused in on. The Other thing
I will say is that over time, our system, particularly
here in Cleveland, and this is what I've also seen
in other districts, we've worked to increase better choice options,
but not for all. So there's still students in our

(01:53):
urban communities, particularly students of color, particularly students of low
social economic status whose families come for social ecnomic status,
and also those students with learning disabilities then continue to
be marginalized and left behind because they're not high quality options.
And so one of the things we talk about here
in Cleveland is making sure every scholar, every school, every

(02:17):
neighborhood has access to a high quality education. And that's
what we've been really focusing in on and working on.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
So so let's talk about where we've been and where
we've had And you did that a little bit. But
when it comes to dealing with the public, what are
their big misconceptions about education? I think a lot of
people think that schools should be the way they were
when we were kids. But nothing could be further than
the truth.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Right, Yeah, you know that. It's so funny you mentioned
that because education is one of those things where it
largely has not changed the way it looks the way
it looks in over a century. You look at what
a classroom looked like in the early twentieth century, probably
even before that, and classrooms relatively look the same. You know,

(03:03):
death syndrolls, books, a teacher standing in front of them.
Now we've been changing so of the pedagogical strategies to
think about how do you give students more have students
doing more of the work in the classroom, or increasing
the rigor that is happening using technology. Those are new
methods that are coming into the into the classroom. But

(03:24):
largely our classrooms look the same. In every other industry
you want to talk about, the medical industry, the technology industry.
You know, certain businesses, stem and engineering, all these other
businesses look vastly different, not only over the past one
hundred years, but over the past ten years, it looks
vastly different. And so one of the things I tell

(03:44):
people when they're like, oh, we need to go back
or it was good. One, we have to think about
what this progress and innovation look like in education. Two. Well,
a lot of people fail to realize that are you know,
you know, adults that are our age, adults that are
older time in you know, our time, we were growing
up where we weren't tracking proficiency in progress, and so

(04:07):
what we sometimes feel like, you know, was better back
then was not necessarily true. And the amounts of kids,
particularly the students I serve, that were had access to
high quality curriculum, the amount of kids that actually were
going to and completing through college was a lot lower
back in than where it is now. And so we

(04:29):
have to open up our minds to innovation, open up
our minds to thinking about what does the future look
like of education and making sure we're on the cutting
edge of it, because every other business does that. That's
what gives you the competitive edge, and education is no different.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
We still have chalkboards in the future, I mean in.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Some classes now, because for instance, in Cleveland, a lot
of our students have one to one devices. So yes,
there may be a whiteboard in the in the classroom,
but there's also you know, students have access to a device.
A teacher may have a smart board where it's a
touch screen where they're pulling in different methods and different
things that are coming the students have actually have access

(05:11):
to in their device. So the technology and innovation that
we can use in the classroom is really helping us
do new things. That is allowing us to have a
lot of a lot of progress in our system.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
So you talked about kids and the recovery and what
they went through through through the pandemic, and what your
system has gone through too, and your focus as you mentioned,
not just on math science but also on mental health
of our kids. That is something the schools have had
to take on full force.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Oh yeah, it has been. But you know, one of
the things that we've been really grateful for is our community.
We don't just do this alone, and we shouldn't do
it alone. When we think about our community partners, when
we think about our partnerships with the cities, with the
civic groups, are foundations who have been supporters of the
district for years, our faith based community, all of these

(06:08):
organizations come together to help us think about ways we
can support our scholars and we've been leveraging our community
to really help us think about integrated health for instance.
So that's something that through the pandemic, now every school
has access to a nurse, and Immigrated Health not only

(06:30):
looks at nurses in the schools, but it also looks
at the wrap around services, the mental health needs, and
there's a committee that looks at that and thinking about
ways that we can ensure that all of our students
as well as staff have access to social, emotional learning,
mental health support. So these are all things that we're
working on together. But it's not the district solely. We

(06:52):
have a group of community partners that come alongside of
us and support this work. We also have higher department
in our district call for Human Wear Department, where we
focus in on, you know, how our people are feeling,
not just our students, but also our staff and so
this is work that we prioritize and we've been seeing

(07:14):
the need to double down and prioritize those areas, particularly
after the pandemic.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
So here we are what about a month month and
a half into the new school year, and as you've
described things change year after year. What have we learned
so far this year?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, Well, first, we talked about last year, because wow,
you know, in my first year, there was a lot
that we were applicants. One, we talked about the academic
lags because of the pandemic. So that was a challenge
I walked into as a first year CEO. We also
were faced with the facts that because we all districts

(07:52):
received our passer dollars from the federal government to help
with the pandemic recovery, but all those dollars ended at
the end of last school year beginning of this school year,
and so we were faced with a budget deficit of
nearly two hundred million dollars. And while also faced with
that budget deficit, we also were negotiating all nine of

(08:13):
our union contracts. So all of these challenges and this
is you know, coming in as a first year CEO
was a lot of challenges we had to face. And
we were also faced with the fundamental question of how
we're going to educate our kids and make sure that
they're learning more So throughout this year. One of the
things I did last year was prioritized listening and learning.

(08:33):
I say often listening and learning is not a moment.
It's a way of leading, listening to the community, doing
listening and learning sessions, and through that, when we had
to make tough decisions, which we did sometimes we heard
tough heart feedback from the community. We were able to
prioritize and put together a budget plan that got us

(08:55):
out of fiscal watch with the States. We were also
able to negotiate contract and give our staff some of
the highest raises that they ever saw. We also saw
some of the highest progress we've seen in the district
for our student academic outcomes. Our proficiency in English language, arts,
math grew, Attendance rates went up, chronic accenteeism went down,

(09:20):
college applications grew by eight percentage points, and we'll be
even able to share more progress in terms of how
the district did once our state report card is released.
And so we're really proud of all the progress, especially
amid all of the different challenges now headed into this year.
Some new things that we have on the horizon. One,

(09:41):
we have a high quality English language Arts curriculum in
every school. So now there is a single English language
arts curriculum that is high quality in every school. No
matter what school you go to, you have the same
curriculum and it helps with mobility rates. So when kids
are bouncing from one place to the next, they had
that consistency of education and it's high quality no matter
which neighborhood they live in. Two. We are cell phone

(10:03):
free zones this year, so all of our schools our
cell phone free zones. Parents and teachers love it, our
students not so much. But we when students walk in,
they have to put their phones away and we secure
them until the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
And this is and that's been a topic across the
country in recent weeks. I know that some people have
safety concerns. There's also concerns about attention spans, but you've
found that it's been a positive experience so far.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
It has been you know, we've been in school, so
all of our traditional schools have been in school for
about a month, but we have our year round schools
that have been in school for about six weeks now,
six seven weeks now, and you know, it's been going smoothly,
you know, and this is a learning curve. There's going
to be things that we learn, but it's been going
really well, and suspension rates are down even from where

(10:53):
they were last August, and we're already seeing that in
the disciplinary measures. The final thing I'll also share this
new for us on the horizon this year is the
fact that we have an electronic grade book. And that
seems simple, but for the very first time, parents now
have real time access to their students' grades and they
can tell how their student is doing, so we can
intervene early and often and don't have to wait until

(11:15):
parent teach your conference or when the report card comes
out until it's too late and then it's an autopsy
instead of actually figuring out how to be intervene right
now before that final grade comes out. So a lot
of new things on the horizon on the back of
a lot of progress that we've made.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, it's it's fascinating. When we were kids, most of
the conversations that our parents had with our teachers happened
at those conference nights that were you know, once a
grading period or whatever. But we find now that if
you're waiting to talk to your kids' educators on those nights,
you've waited too long.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, yep, waited too long, and you know, yeah, you've
waited too long. And then if for a lot of
our students. If there's not an immediate plan for remediation,
they get further back behind. I think about that when
we think about our graduation rates, because students will get
to their senior year and say, hey, I want to
graduate this year. Well, if you've failed so many courses,

(12:10):
you know in your freshman sophomore year it didn't do
the remediation, you're not going to graduate this year. But
we shouldn't be waiting until that point. We should be
doing something educating our scholars, giving them the support that
they need early and often, so that by the time
it's the senior year, they they know, they know if
they're on track or not. And so that's the work
we've been really focusing in on.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Well, it's not just parents that you mentioned, the community
as well, and you have a new program there for
clevelanders to I believe Step Up for Cleveland Kids is
what you're calling it. What does it tell us about it?

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, So on Saturday, September twenty first, we're going to
have our Step Up for Cleveland Kids rally. It's we're
going out to the community. September is the Attendants Awareness Month.
We made a lot of progress last year with increased
attendance and decreased chronic acenteism. But I've seen the attendance
rates already for this and I'm not happy with where
they are. So we are going out to the streets

(13:03):
to make sure, Hey, we get our kids back into school,
we get our scholars, and we're canvassing door to door.
We'll have adults, scholars all out there canvassing on a
Saturday talking about the importance of education and getting back
to school. We'll also be celebrating some of the progress
that we made last school year while also talking about,

(13:26):
you know, our district financial sustainability. Our district is also
on the ballot this November for a for a levy
because of the financial challenges I talked about earlier. This
is one of the strategies we'll use to put us
on a pathway to financial sustainability.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
So how do people get involved with the event coming
up on the twenty first.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Oh, they could just go to our website. Our website
is Cleveland Metroschools dot org and on the website you'll
see information for the Step Up to Support Cleveland Kids.
We'll see that rally and more information in terms of
how to get involved and sign up.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Very good and doctor Morgan, you've been as you mentioned earlier,
you've been around Cleveland schools for a long time, and
as you've started this position now a year in ultimately
five years, ten years, fifteen years from now, if you're
still in the role, how would you measure success for
Cleveland Metropolitan Schools.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I would measure it in a few ways. One, sustain
continued academic outcomes and growth. So if we're continuing to
move the needle forward, continuing to push ourselves to make
sure that our scholars are doing well in terms of
academic outcomes, that is a win for me. Two, Ensuring
every scholar, every school, every neighborhood has access to a

(14:49):
high quality curriculum and education. So that is making sure
there are programs in every school, making sure that there's
a high quality curriculum in every school. So that's worked
that I want to be a part of ensuring happens
in Cleveland. And then also I would say, really to

(15:11):
this point of the earlier conversation, we were talking about
the future and innovation really starting to help the community
in the district think about career, college and career pathways
for our students so that when they leave us and
graduate from CMSD schools, they have a plan. They have
a plan, whether that plan is directly to go to college,

(15:33):
whether that plan is directly to get involved in careers.
But they have a plan, and we put them on
a pathway and we're not just leaving them out there
to figure it out on their own. That is work
that I want to continue to double down and make
sure we increase our efforts.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
We wish you the best of luck and there's nothing
more important than our kids in the future.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Well, thank you so much. I truly appreciate it.
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