ANTHONY BUSTAMENTE-BEYONK SKINWALKER RANCH

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This is Later with Lee Matthews theLee Matthews Podcast. More What You Hear
Weekday Afternoon is on the Drive.Andrew Bustamente is a former covert CIA intelligence
offerres, decorated wartime military veteran USAir Force Academy graduate, and successful Fortune
ten corporate advisor. Along with investigativejournalist Paul Beben, they investigate a florry

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of new disturbing activities as they continuetheir search into the areas of strangeness.
Their show is Beyond Skinwalker Ranch.Season two is this week on the History
Channel. Andrew, welcome to havegood to have you along today. Thank
you, thank you for having mevery much. I'm excited to be here.
So let's start at the beginning.How did an intelligence officer with the

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CIA get into researching unidentified activity?Yeah? Absolutely so if you think about
it. Really, CIA's job isto research unknown activity. Our job is
to find secrets, cover secrets,and use the most credible investigative methods possible.
I was never really one of theinvestigators that was into anything paranormal or
anything strange or anything UFO related.But when the Skinwalker Ranch investigative team wanted

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to expand their research, beyond Utah. They needed to find a team of
people who were outside of the normalparanormal and UFO community, and that's how
they found me. And I wasinvited into this party, and I'll tell
you what, it's been a hellof a party ever since. Let's remind
everybody what Skinwalker Ranch, that wholestory absolutely. Skinwalker Ranch, a location

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in Utah, is an area thathas for many, many decades been an
area of research interest to the UnitedStates government and to the United States Industrial
weapons Industrial Complex. So a bigpart of that is because it's an area
of what they call compounding compounding phenomenon, meaning there are different unexplainable phenomenon that

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seemed to all occur within a veryclose proximity of each other on one property.
What does that mean. That meansthere's UFO sidings, there's orb sightings,
there's lights in the sky, there'senergy transmissions to and from that location
that don't have any known terrestrial origin. So when you find an area like
that, a hotspot like that,it's very very unique, and it's of

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course an area of interest both forthe scientific community as well as for the
national security community. And you asa government or former government employee are probably
aware of the government does do acertain amount of research, whether it be
for a weapon or for something elsethat they want to use later on for
intelligence, and they do a certainamount of this stuff, and some of
it's pretty whacked out. Yeah,absolutely, I mean the government doesn't do

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a certain amount. This is thevast majority of government budget actually goes into
future research and development. Because,if you think about it, if you
find a new type of metal,or a new type of resource, or
a new type of energy source,that can transform your country, that can
transfer for your medical foundation, thatcan transform your community, that can transform
your telecommunications industry, and that givesyou a massive advantage over all of your

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geopolitical peers. So for the UnitedStates, one of the key ingredients to
remaining the only superpower in the worldis always being the first to discover something
new, whether that's a new threatsor whether that's a new opportunity. Talking
about the new season of Beyond Skinwalkerranch on the History Channel and Anthony Bustamante

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is the host of the show,along with an investigative journalist, Paul Baban,
Did you have any major surprises inthe season's worth of episodes? We
actually had several several just fascinating discoveries, absolute surprises, some of them that
make the hair on the back ofyour next stand up, others that make
you chuckle out loud because you didn'texpect it. From California to Florida,

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we had an awesome adventure across theUnited States that I can't wait to share
with the American people because our investigationhelped us connect more or not only with
the men and women who share aflag with us, who also share these
experiences with a phenomenon with us,but it also gave us a chance to
expand and advance scientific research in away that isn't well known. But as

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are there still stories that just haveyou going. I have absolutely no idea
what that is. Absolutely one ofthose stories is actually one of the things
that you will see when we airtomorrow. We have the most compelling evidence
ever recorded of a strange paranormal figure, an actual mass, a humanoid looking
creature that presented itself to us inNevada on multiple different types of technology optical

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camera, thermal camera as well asa visual imaging camera, all of it
captured on tape, all of itcaptured in person. We can't explain it,
We don't know what it is.And in the moments, it makes
you feel like you are an elevenyear old child again discovering ghosts for the
first time. And then it disappears, and just because you can't see it

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doesn't mean it's not there. Andthen immediately following that eleven year old moment
of getting us and excitement is theeleven year old moment where you first watched
the movie Poltergeist. Yeah, andyou're terrified instantly. Exactly exactly. X
CIA agent Anthony Andy Bustamante and investigativegeneralist Paul Beeban of Beyond Skinwalker Ranch on

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the History Channel Tuesday nights at tenEastern. That would be nine Pacific.
The government, you were an employee, and now here you are looking into
some of the things that they mayor may not be behind. Have you
butted heads with anybody that in thegovernment and all your work in investigating this,

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have you buttoned hands with anybody inthe government. Yeah? Absolutely.
The interesting thing is we have buttedheads as well as found unexpected partners in
some of our research. The dataand the information that we're able to collect
and share with the American peoples ofsuch interest that we've had police and law
enforcement as well as FBI even approachus to talk about collaborating on other investigations

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that are behind classification channels or insideclassification channels. But then similarly, we've
also put it heads with politicians andwith some government officers who just don't want
us to do what we're doing becausethey either think that we are distracting people
or that we are potentially undermining nationalsecurity and otherwise. So we're seeing that
even within the government, it's notsuch a unified force, right, The

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government itself seems to be divided onthe UFO topic, much like the US
government is divided on a number oftopics. Ken, I mean, so
many times you see this portrade asthe government doesn't want us to know because
they don't think we can handle it. Have you ever come across something that,
wow, yeah, this is betterleft unrevealed. Yeah, you're talking
to somebody who very much appreciates thevalue of a secret for multiple reasons.

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And there is a very real reasonto keep secrets just to maintain public calm.
And I've absolutely seen things in thisinvestigation, things that we will not
air, things that we need toresearch further, specifically, because going out
with information that's only partially understood cancause more panic than productivity, and we
don't want to be a contributing factorfor that. My my, my,

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Andrew bust A Minte, and you'renot only a CIA intelligence officer. You
could teach classes in I don't knowjournalism that evidently are not being taught.
I appreciate that very much. Anythat the main goal that I have is
really just to take what the governmenthas given me to get. The government
gave me. CIA gave me themost exciting, most enjoyable, most thrilling

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career I could have ever asked for. And now I have one mission,
and that's just to give back asmuch as I can. And that leads
to opportunities like this investigating some ofthe strangest things in America. And he
does so on Beyond Skinwalker Ranch onthe History Channel Tuesday nights at nine Central.
And we thank you for joining usagain, Anthony Bustamentek, Thank you

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