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(00:04):
This is Later with Lee Matthews,The Lee Matthews Podcast, more what You
Hear Weekday Afternoon's on the Drive.He's produced over fifty DVDs and hosts Jim
Shockey's Hunting Adventures and Jim Shockey's Unchartedon the Outdoor Channel. Also an award
winning writer, wildlife photographer, videographer. He's got a new novel out,
Jim Shockey's called Call Me Hunter.Welcome Jim. Before we get started,
(00:29):
what's your favorite black powder load?You know, I've been using one hundred
and fifty grains of Pyrodex Select.I'm old school in that way with the
hornity bullets. Two hundred and fiftygrain bullet. Well, I'm an enthusiast
myself, and I spent a gooddeal of this weekend doing some handloading of
nine millimeter and thirty eight special.But I'm not the hunter you are.
(00:52):
But Hunter is in your new book, uh, and that is out now?
It's your first novel. Yeah,I think it today? Is the
release date today tomorrow? But Iknow it's in bookstores right now as we
speak and being delivered by Amazon.So yeah, yeah, it's a big
day today. Jim Shockey, Callme Hunter is the novel Jim tell Us
(01:14):
about your protagonist Hunter. You know, this is I would classify it as
an autobiographical, fictional, abstract thriller. You know, it has to fit
into a genre, so they justcall it a thriller. But the character
Hunter, who also is known asIcarus and known as sees you the amount
of sores. You know, it'sloosely based on my life. You know,
(01:38):
the easiest way to write is isto to tell your own story.
And this is truly, truly mystory. It's not about hunting, though
the character develops and a love forhunting, but there's no animals getting hunted
in other than human beings. Well, Hunter has some he has some unusual
(02:00):
abilities, does he not. Yeah, that's you know. I truly believe
that there's people around this world thatare gifted with an ability to recognize beauty,
to feel a spirit of an objectif it was handmade. And so
I've taken that to the ins degreewith shoot Me, with Hunter so and
(02:23):
the other characters in the book.You know, it's it's a It's something
in my museum, the Hand toMan Museum on Vancouver Island. I see
it all the time when people walkdown the hallway. They that have a
higher sensibility to the art. Theyfeel it, they feel beauty. And
that's what the underlying premises of thisthis story, Call Me Hunter. Jim
(02:44):
Shockey is the author of Call MeHunter. You know him from Shaki's Hunting
Adventures and Jim Shocke Uncharted on theOutdoor Channel. The main quest in this
story is treasure, but it's adifferent kind of trend. Sure, yeah,
yeah. The the the Again,the premise is that there's a deep
(03:06):
state organization our world that that controlsthe art market. So they're always looking
for the greatest works of art madeby human beings, and there's the They
basically recruit these people with the abilityto recognize that art and then they sell
it to a big auction called theGathering, to the wealthy people of the
(03:27):
world. The rest of us neverget to see these pieces. But the
one greatest work of art that manhas ever created or human beings is the
Soul Catcher. And that that's whatthe book is about, is the our
world searching for the Soul Catcher,and he does so in his book Call
Me Hunter. Jim Shockey is withus and the book is out Now.
(03:50):
The tell us about your your yourAntagonistfago Gebago. Yeah, he's the villain.
And you know, I flipped thestereotypes we've been for the last sixty
years. They've always had you know, hunters as evil. So I've flipped
the stereotypes and I've made Jevago aboutas villainous as you can make a villain.
(04:15):
But he's also an animal rights extremist. So as I say, I
flipped it, and I mean technicallythe anti hero Hunter. The protagonist is
actually Nyalla, a young lady.The story is really about her journey to
find herself through this process of learningabout our world and the search for the
(04:35):
soul catcher. Jim Shockey writes aboutit, call me Hunter. It's out
now. Has nothing to do withHunter Biden zero. That's just a bad
coincident, thank goodness. Okay,so when the story gets going, does
(04:58):
it take us to any exotic portsof call? No, this this one
is is pretty mundane rosaic. Imean it starts starts in North Carolina and
ends up on the west coast ofVancouver Island. So so you know it's
a journey, yeah, but it'snot nowhere wild and crazy uh, you
(05:19):
know, but there you know,it's a two book deal with Simon and
Schuster, So stand by for thethe sequel to call Me Hunter. I'm
sure it's it's coming as well.And yeah, and possibly movie rights as
well. I mean that that wouldbe a perfect world, you know,
hope hopefully. I was right therewhen Jack Carr got the call from Chris
(05:42):
Pratt for his Terminalist novel, whenChris optioned it to turn it into the
Amazon series or Prime. So soit's pretty cool when that happens, and
that would be that would be thethe dream come true for sure. And
I see that he's written you abyline, so are you and he pretty
well acquainted? Yeah. Like Isaid, I was standing right beside him
(06:04):
when he got the call from ChrisPratt. It was a pretty pretty funny
evening. Yeah, he's a he'sa great guy, great great author.
I mean I think he said sixNew York Times bestsellers, three at one
time in the top ten. Yeah, he's Anyone that has read his series
do yourself a favor. Oh Ihave, and I'm a fan and I've
had him on this program too,So that's why I look forward to reading
(06:25):
Jim Shockey of Jim Shockey's Hunting Adventuresand Jim Shocky Uncharted the book is Call
Me Hunter? Any of the anyI wanted to get back to Chivago?
Did Javago? I mean, you'veYou're you're basing a lot of what you're
writing about on your own experience doingand being in these certain parts of the
country. Is Jivago a manifestation ofany particular person. No, I wouldn't
(06:49):
say an individual person, but ofan ideology. Yes, you know,
like I say, you know ifyou Alice in Wonderland was metaphor, and
that that's what this really truly is, is allusion to what's going on out
there in the world. So yeah, Jevago exists not as an individual,
(07:10):
but as a as an ideology.And you've hunted in a lot of different
places, Jim shacki Hunting Adventures andJim Shacki's uncharted on the outdoor channels where
you know him and his newest novelistsCall Me Hunter. Is are you at
any point where Oh, I'm tiredof going out in the field, you
(07:30):
know. Twenty nineteen October Mozambique wasmy last international trip, and I decided
that in twenty sixteen. I wasbooked that partiam the Mess for these expeditions,
but I needed to write call meHunter. So if I didn't sit
down and start writing, it wouldn'thave happened. And then COVID hit anyway,
and then my wife was took ill, and so I you know,
(07:54):
my international travel days are pretty muchended. You know. I don't don't
run as fast anymore, don't hereas well, don't see as well,
and I just end up being eatenby something with sharp teeth. You still
go hunting domestically, yeah, ofcourse. Yeah. The Yukon is my
favorite. I've got the Road RiverOpening Territory up in the Yukon. It's
(08:18):
about twelve thousand square miles seven millionacres and there's not a single road,
not a house, nothing down below, just you know, our cabins on
lakes and rivers, and so Igo up there every year. I love
it. I wouldn't stop that well, as long as I'm able to continue
to go up there. No,we have quite an elk season and quite
(08:39):
a deer season. Our deer seasonjust started, so I'm seeing friends of
mine and their harvests and celebrating withthem on this and you'll celebrate this novel
Jim Shockey. It's called Call MeHunter. It is out everywhere you get
books. Jim will be watching youon your hunting adventures. And thanks for
bringing us the story, Thanks forhaving me, Thanks for listening to Later
(09:03):
with Lee Matthews, the Lee MatthewsPodcast, and remember to listen to The
Drive Live weekday afternoons from five toseven and iHeartMedia Presentation
This is Later with Lee Matthews,The Lee Matthews Podcast, more what You
Hear Weekday Afternoon's on the Drive.He's produced over fifty DVDs and hosts Jim
Shockey's Hunting Adventures and Jim Shockey's Unchartedon the Outdoor Channel. Also an award
winning writer, wildlife photographer, videographer. He's got a new novel out,
Jim Shockey's called Call Me Hunter.Welcome Jim. Before we get started,
(00:29):
what's your favorite black powder load?You know, I've been using one hundred
and fifty grains of Pyrodex Select.I'm old school in that way with the
hornity bullets. Two hundred and fiftygrain bullet. Well, I'm an enthusiast
myself, and I spent a gooddeal of this weekend doing some handloading of
nine millimeter and thirty eight special.But I'm not the hunter you are.
(00:52):
But Hunter is in your new book, uh, and that is out now?
It's your first novel. Yeah,I think it today? Is the
release date today tomorrow? But Iknow it's in bookstores right now as we
speak and being delivered by Amazon.So yeah, yeah, it's a big
day today. Jim Shockey, Callme Hunter is the novel Jim tell Us
(01:14):
about your protagonist Hunter. You know, this is I would classify it as
an autobiographical, fictional, abstract thriller. You know, it has to fit
into a genre, so they justcall it a thriller. But the character
Hunter, who also is known asIcarus and known as sees you the amount
of sores. You know, it'sloosely based on my life. You know,
(01:38):
the easiest way to write is isto to tell your own story.
And this is truly, truly mystory. It's not about hunting, though
the character develops and a love forhunting, but there's no animals getting hunted
in other than human beings. Well, Hunter has some he has some unusual
(02:00):
abilities, does he not. Yeah, that's you know. I truly believe
that there's people around this world thatare gifted with an ability to recognize beauty,
to feel a spirit of an objectif it was handmade. And so
I've taken that to the ins degreewith shoot Me, with Hunter so and
(02:23):
the other characters in the book.You know, it's it's a It's something
in my museum, the Hand toMan Museum on Vancouver Island. I see
it all the time when people walkdown the hallway. They that have a
higher sensibility to the art. Theyfeel it, they feel beauty. And
that's what the underlying premises of thisthis story, Call Me Hunter. Jim
(02:44):
Shockey is the author of Call MeHunter. You know him from Shaki's Hunting
Adventures and Jim Shocke Uncharted on theOutdoor Channel. The main quest in this
story is treasure, but it's adifferent kind of trend. Sure, yeah,
yeah. The the the Again,the premise is that there's a deep
(03:06):
state organization our world that that controlsthe art market. So they're always looking
for the greatest works of art madeby human beings, and there's the They
basically recruit these people with the abilityto recognize that art and then they sell
it to a big auction called theGathering, to the wealthy people of the
(03:27):
world. The rest of us neverget to see these pieces. But the
one greatest work of art that manhas ever created or human beings is the
Soul Catcher. And that that's whatthe book is about, is the our
world searching for the Soul Catcher,and he does so in his book Call
Me Hunter. Jim Shockey is withus and the book is out Now.
(03:50):
The tell us about your your yourAntagonistfago Gebago. Yeah, he's the villain.
And you know, I flipped thestereotypes we've been for the last sixty
years. They've always had you know, hunters as evil. So I've flipped
the stereotypes and I've made Jevago aboutas villainous as you can make a villain.
(04:15):
But he's also an animal rights extremist. So as I say, I
flipped it, and I mean technicallythe anti hero Hunter. The protagonist is
actually Nyalla, a young lady.The story is really about her journey to
find herself through this process of learningabout our world and the search for the
(04:35):
soul catcher. Jim Shockey writes aboutit, call me Hunter. It's out
now. Has nothing to do withHunter Biden zero. That's just a bad
coincident, thank goodness. Okay,so when the story gets going, does
(04:58):
it take us to any exotic portsof call? No, this this one
is is pretty mundane rosaic. Imean it starts starts in North Carolina and
ends up on the west coast ofVancouver Island. So so you know it's
a journey, yeah, but it'snot nowhere wild and crazy uh, you
(05:19):
know, but there you know,it's a two book deal with Simon and
Schuster, So stand by for thethe sequel to call Me Hunter. I'm
sure it's it's coming as well.And yeah, and possibly movie rights as
well. I mean that that wouldbe a perfect world, you know,
hope hopefully. I was right therewhen Jack Carr got the call from Chris
(05:42):
Pratt for his Terminalist novel, whenChris optioned it to turn it into the
Amazon series or Prime. So soit's pretty cool when that happens, and
that would be that would be thethe dream come true for sure. And
I see that he's written you abyline, so are you and he pretty
well acquainted? Yeah. Like Isaid, I was standing right beside him
(06:04):
when he got the call from ChrisPratt. It was a pretty pretty funny
evening. Yeah, he's a he'sa great guy, great great author.
I mean I think he said sixNew York Times bestsellers, three at one
time in the top ten. Yeah, he's Anyone that has read his series
do yourself a favor. Oh Ihave, and I'm a fan and I've
had him on this program too,So that's why I look forward to reading
(06:25):
Jim Shockey of Jim Shockey's Hunting Adventuresand Jim Shocky Uncharted the book is Call
Me Hunter? Any of the anyI wanted to get back to Chivago?
Did Javago? I mean, you'veYou're you're basing a lot of what you're
writing about on your own experience doingand being in these certain parts of the
country. Is Jivago a manifestation ofany particular person. No, I wouldn't
(06:49):
say an individual person, but ofan ideology. Yes, you know,
like I say, you know ifyou Alice in Wonderland was metaphor, and
that that's what this really truly is, is allusion to what's going on out
there in the world. So yeah, Jevago exists not as an individual,
(07:10):
but as a as an ideology.And you've hunted in a lot of different
places, Jim shacki Hunting Adventures andJim Shacki's uncharted on the outdoor channels where
you know him and his newest novelistsCall Me Hunter. Is are you at
any point where Oh, I'm tiredof going out in the field, you
(07:30):
know. Twenty nineteen October Mozambique wasmy last international trip, and I decided
that in twenty sixteen. I wasbooked that partiam the Mess for these expeditions,
but I needed to write call meHunter. So if I didn't sit
down and start writing, it wouldn'thave happened. And then COVID hit anyway,
and then my wife was took ill, and so I you know,
(07:54):
my international travel days are pretty muchended. You know. I don't don't
run as fast anymore, don't hereas well, don't see as well,
and I just end up being eatenby something with sharp teeth. You still
go hunting domestically, yeah, ofcourse. Yeah. The Yukon is my
favorite. I've got the Road RiverOpening Territory up in the Yukon. It's
(08:18):
about twelve thousand square miles seven millionacres and there's not a single road,
not a house, nothing down below, just you know, our cabins on
lakes and rivers, and so Igo up there every year. I love
it. I wouldn't stop that well, as long as I'm able to continue
to go up there. No,we have quite an elk season and quite
(08:39):
a deer season. Our deer seasonjust started, so I'm seeing friends of
mine and their harvests and celebrating withthem on this and you'll celebrate this novel
Jim Shockey. It's called Call MeHunter. It is out everywhere you get
books. Jim will be watching youon your hunting adventures. And thanks for
bringing us the story, Thanks forhaving me, Thanks for listening to Later
(09:03):
with Lee Matthews, the Lee MatthewsPodcast, and remember to listen to The
Drive Live weekday afternoons from five toseven and iHeartMedia Presentation
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