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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is Later with Lee Matthews The Lee Matthews Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
More what you hear weekday afternoons on the Drive.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Ryan Matthew Cohen is an artist, curator and art collector
and The Oddity's Flea Market co founder. Regina Marie Rossi
is a Rossie rather is a co founder and producer
of The Oddity's Flea Market as well. They've spanned the
globe to find a collection of oddities and if you
are a fan of oddities and Guillermo del Toro's Cabinet
of Curiosities, this is the perfect companion book that they've composed.
(00:34):
It's called The Witch's Door. Oddities and Tales from the
Exotic to the Extreme. Good morning guys. Hello, Let's start
with the beginning. Ryan, how did you get into this?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
That's a really good question, and I'm asked that constantly.
I'm sorry, No, it's great.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I've always just been interested in odd things. I grew
up in the woods, and you know, there was a
lot of bears in the area, and they would eat
a carcass and leave, you know, partial bones behind, and
I think I became fascinated with that and I started
to kind of, you know, piece together my own skeletons,
and it all sort of started from there.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And for you, Regina, oh, by marriage.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Sorry, that's how it started for me.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So when he first showed you his collection, did you go,
huh eh, hello, nine one one Hello.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I know you think I should have. I mean, my
family is still questioning my choices. However, I knew what
I was in for. I was a fan of Ryan's
TV show Oddities, so I was very familiar. Of course,
I had no idea that six months after I met
him we would get married. And you know what his
(01:51):
is mine?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Right, Yeah, I suppose. Now, I didn't sign a prenup
or anything.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Well, Ryan, where do you find most of your goodies?
Is it garage sales? Is it flea markets? Or is
it just walking around gift shops?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You know, it's really everywhere at this point.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And even when I started, it started out with, you know,
going to like the neighborhood antique or vintage stores, and
you know, like a flea market would happen here and there,
and yeah, we'd go to like a garage sales they
were called back then, and then when I moved to
the city, they were called stoop sales.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Now it's mostly auctions.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Or you know, like rare situations from a museum where
I'm brought in to authenticate something. And then sometimes a
museum will de acquisition certain objects and I'll procure items
that way.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
And do you, Regina, keep your eye out for these
these these types of singales, I honestly don't.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I'm more i'd say the rational one behind, you know,
purchasing these large collections. And I just have to question
everything and make sure that there's a plan for uh
when we do procure, like where it's going, what is
its purpose? So I think I asked all the questions.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Afterwards I asked zero question and I have this mentality
where I'm like, you know what, get it now, because
if you don't get it, somebody else will figure it
out later.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
The witches dore oddities and tails from the exotic to
the extreme. And we're talking to Ryan Matthew Khne and
his wife Regina Rossi. So it all started out with
basically an interest in bones and skeletal systems. But when
did it kind of cross over into the macabre? If
that wasn't macob.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Enough, Yeah, sure, I think that you know, the anatomical
aspect of my collecting was considered odd, and so that
gave me really like that helped me ease into it.
But I've always had this weird obsession with anatomy, you know.
When I was younger, I actually started to do anatomical illustration,
and I truly thought that that was what my path
(03:56):
was going to be. And then when I found out
how long I would have to go to school from
medical illustration or you know, the medical field in general,
I decided not to and became a rock star for
a little while instead. And that gave me a chance
to travel around and start picking things from like other states,
and start to compile an actual collection. And it tended
to just gravitate towards the macabre and you know, death
(04:19):
in general.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I don't really know why that is. It's just always been.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
The Witch's door oddities and tales from the exotic to
the extreme. Ryan Matthew Cohene and his wife Regina Rossi
and Regina for you when you do get you mentioned
when you ask a lot of questions. You can browse
through just about any voodoo gift shop in New Orleans
and find shrunken heads. How do you tell the difference
(04:45):
between an authentic shrunken head and something that's just dressed
up to look like a shrunken head.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I mean, I've become a professional just because Ryan has
taught me. Well, I mean, a you're just not going
to find something like that in the field if it's
real and of value. Number one, I mean mostly what Brian,
They're going to be in museums at.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
This point, Yeah, very few exist out in the wild.
They're either in you.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Know, private collections, or they are in a museum, and
many museums are actually removing them and repatriating them back
to South America. So even fewer exists, so places like
Ripley's believe it or not, or even like I think
the Museum of Natural History here in New York doesn't
have them any longer.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So you rarely will find them out, you know, for sale.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
But you'll find plenty of what we call greegree items.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You'll find plenty of fake shrunken heads.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, you know, New Orleans, and you know, they're a
dime a dozen out there, and they literally would cost
you something like, you know, ten bucks or twenty dollars.
A genuine one would be you know, closer to ten
thousand to one. Hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Where Ryan Matthew Cohne along with Regina Rossi and the
book is The Witches Store Oddities and Tales from the
exotic to the extreme. Regina, if you all have in
your possession a mummified monkey's paw, I'm just telling you
you're in for some trouble. You're asking for it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Trouble is our middle name.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Did you ever come across anything and said that's a
little too creepy for my taste?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah, I mean that's me on an every day, just
even walking around my home. At one point, I used
to like eat cereal at our dining room table in
Brooklyn and stare at something that I wasn't quite sure
what it was, and then I asked the question, and
what was it? Gallstones? It was like a star of gallstones.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, that's sort of a grisly thing when you're eating
something that resembles a gallstone. Yeah, you know, essentially most
foods because they're just little circular deposits.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And yeah, well sometimes I do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I'll like walk around the house and be like, hmm,
something is always staring at me around every.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Inch of this house.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Oh so many eyes.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
There's eyes everywhere, Regina, they weren't your all stones.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Worthy, okay, because that would be weird.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
We also collect bezors, you know. I don't want to
discriminate here.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
The Witch's Door, Oddities and Tails from the exotic to
the extreme, and the authors are Ryan Matthew Cohne and
his wife Regina Marie Rossi. And what what do you
are you? Is there an inexhaustible supply of these items
or are you seeing Okay, we're getting to the point
where we've about, god everything we can have.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
There's never any end.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
There's no end unless I think we ended up, you know,
parting with our entire collection moving to Europe or something.
And I think maybe that is the end goal, I
will say, because I think the economy is a little
messed up right now. A lot of things have come
up for so recently. So it's not that there's an
endless supply, because these are all one of a kind works,
(07:58):
you know, like you're looking at in a painting. There's
only one of those that exists. But a lot of
the things in our field have recently come up for auction.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Or gone on sale, and I'm not entirely sure why
that is, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
And in our book, of course, we're going to amplify
those stories. We're going to talk about like the biggest
collectors that we've met, and how we've procured some of
the biggest collections and what we do with them and
where they are now and maybe where we think they're going.
But yeah, it's never ending.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, It's one thing to purchase an entire anatomical museum.
It's quite another to figure out, like what do I
do with this thing after I've procured it? Like a
hardware store, what is this for? With just Doro oddities
and tales from the exotic to the extreme. And the
authors are Ryan Matthew Cone and his wife Regina Marie
ROSSI thank you for joining us and to have a
(08:51):
creepy Halloween. You Joe, thank you, thanks for listening to
Later with Lee Matthews the Lee Matthews Podcast asked and
remember to listen to The Drive Live weekday afternoons from
five to seven and iHeartMedia presentation
This is Later with Lee Matthews The Lee Matthews Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
More what you hear weekday afternoons on the Drive.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Ryan Matthew Cohen is an artist, curator and art collector
and The Oddity's Flea Market co founder. Regina Marie Rossi
is a Rossie rather is a co founder and producer
of The Oddity's Flea Market as well. They've spanned the
globe to find a collection of oddities and if you
are a fan of oddities and Guillermo del Toro's Cabinet
of Curiosities, this is the perfect companion book that they've composed.
(00:34):
It's called The Witch's Door. Oddities and Tales from the
Exotic to the Extreme. Good morning guys. Hello, Let's start
with the beginning. Ryan, how did you get into this?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
That's a really good question, and I'm asked that constantly.
I'm sorry, No, it's great.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I've always just been interested in odd things. I grew
up in the woods, and you know, there was a
lot of bears in the area, and they would eat
a carcass and leave, you know, partial bones behind, and
I think I became fascinated with that and I started
to kind of, you know, piece together my own skeletons,
and it all sort of started from there.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And for you, Regina, oh, by marriage.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Sorry, that's how it started for me.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So when he first showed you his collection, did you go,
huh eh, hello, nine one one Hello.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I know you think I should have. I mean, my
family is still questioning my choices. However, I knew what
I was in for. I was a fan of Ryan's
TV show Oddities, so I was very familiar. Of course,
I had no idea that six months after I met
him we would get married. And you know what his
(01:51):
is mine?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Right, Yeah, I suppose. Now, I didn't sign a prenup
or anything.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Well, Ryan, where do you find most of your goodies?
Is it garage sales? Is it flea markets? Or is
it just walking around gift shops?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You know, it's really everywhere at this point.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And even when I started, it started out with, you know,
going to like the neighborhood antique or vintage stores, and
you know, like a flea market would happen here and there,
and yeah, we'd go to like a garage sales they
were called back then, and then when I moved to
the city, they were called stoop sales.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Now it's mostly auctions.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Or you know, like rare situations from a museum where
I'm brought in to authenticate something. And then sometimes a
museum will de acquisition certain objects and I'll procure items
that way.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
And do you, Regina, keep your eye out for these
these these types of singales, I honestly don't.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I'm more i'd say the rational one behind, you know,
purchasing these large collections. And I just have to question
everything and make sure that there's a plan for uh
when we do procure, like where it's going, what is
its purpose? So I think I asked all the questions.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Afterwards I asked zero question and I have this mentality
where I'm like, you know what, get it now, because
if you don't get it, somebody else will figure it
out later.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
The witches dore oddities and tails from the exotic to
the extreme. And we're talking to Ryan Matthew Khne and
his wife Regina Rossi. So it all started out with
basically an interest in bones and skeletal systems. But when
did it kind of cross over into the macabre? If
that wasn't macob.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Enough, Yeah, sure, I think that you know, the anatomical
aspect of my collecting was considered odd, and so that
gave me really like that helped me ease into it.
But I've always had this weird obsession with anatomy, you know.
When I was younger, I actually started to do anatomical illustration,
and I truly thought that that was what my path
(03:56):
was going to be. And then when I found out
how long I would have to go to school from
medical illustration or you know, the medical field in general,
I decided not to and became a rock star for
a little while instead. And that gave me a chance
to travel around and start picking things from like other states,
and start to compile an actual collection. And it tended
to just gravitate towards the macabre and you know, death
(04:19):
in general.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I don't really know why that is. It's just always been.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
The Witch's door oddities and tales from the exotic to
the extreme. Ryan Matthew Cohene and his wife Regina Rossi
and Regina for you when you do get you mentioned
when you ask a lot of questions. You can browse
through just about any voodoo gift shop in New Orleans
and find shrunken heads. How do you tell the difference
(04:45):
between an authentic shrunken head and something that's just dressed
up to look like a shrunken head.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I mean, I've become a professional just because Ryan has
taught me. Well, I mean, a you're just not going
to find something like that in the field if it's
real and of value. Number one, I mean mostly what Brian,
They're going to be in museums at.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
This point, Yeah, very few exist out in the wild.
They're either in you.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Know, private collections, or they are in a museum, and
many museums are actually removing them and repatriating them back
to South America. So even fewer exists, so places like
Ripley's believe it or not, or even like I think
the Museum of Natural History here in New York doesn't
have them any longer.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So you rarely will find them out, you know, for sale.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
But you'll find plenty of what we call greegree items.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You'll find plenty of fake shrunken heads.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, you know, New Orleans, and you know, they're a
dime a dozen out there, and they literally would cost
you something like, you know, ten bucks or twenty dollars.
A genuine one would be you know, closer to ten
thousand to one. Hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Where Ryan Matthew Cohne along with Regina Rossi and the
book is The Witches Store Oddities and Tales from the
exotic to the extreme. Regina, if you all have in
your possession a mummified monkey's paw, I'm just telling you
you're in for some trouble. You're asking for it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Trouble is our middle name.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Did you ever come across anything and said that's a
little too creepy for my taste?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah, I mean that's me on an every day, just
even walking around my home. At one point, I used
to like eat cereal at our dining room table in
Brooklyn and stare at something that I wasn't quite sure
what it was, and then I asked the question, and
what was it? Gallstones? It was like a star of gallstones.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, that's sort of a grisly thing when you're eating
something that resembles a gallstone. Yeah, you know, essentially most
foods because they're just little circular deposits.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And yeah, well sometimes I do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I'll like walk around the house and be like, hmm,
something is always staring at me around every.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Inch of this house.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Oh so many eyes.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
There's eyes everywhere, Regina, they weren't your all stones.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Worthy, okay, because that would be weird.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
We also collect bezors, you know. I don't want to
discriminate here.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
The Witch's Door, Oddities and Tails from the exotic to
the extreme, and the authors are Ryan Matthew Cohne and
his wife Regina Marie Rossi. And what what do you
are you? Is there an inexhaustible supply of these items
or are you seeing Okay, we're getting to the point
where we've about, god everything we can have.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
There's never any end.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
There's no end unless I think we ended up, you know,
parting with our entire collection moving to Europe or something.
And I think maybe that is the end goal, I
will say, because I think the economy is a little
messed up right now. A lot of things have come
up for so recently. So it's not that there's an
endless supply, because these are all one of a kind works,
(07:58):
you know, like you're looking at in a painting. There's
only one of those that exists. But a lot of
the things in our field have recently come up for auction.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Or gone on sale, and I'm not entirely sure why
that is, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
And in our book, of course, we're going to amplify
those stories. We're going to talk about like the biggest
collectors that we've met, and how we've procured some of
the biggest collections and what we do with them and
where they are now and maybe where we think they're going.
But yeah, it's never ending.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, It's one thing to purchase an entire anatomical museum.
It's quite another to figure out, like what do I
do with this thing after I've procured it? Like a
hardware store, what is this for? With just Doro oddities
and tales from the exotic to the extreme. And the
authors are Ryan Matthew Cone and his wife Regina Marie
ROSSI thank you for joining us and to have a
(08:51):
creepy Halloween. You Joe, thank you, thanks for listening to
Later with Lee Matthews the Lee Matthews Podcast asked and
remember to listen to The Drive Live weekday afternoons from
five to seven and iHeartMedia presentation
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