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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is later with Lee Matthews the Lee Matthews Podcast.
More what you hear Weekday Afternoon is on the Drive.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Stanley Milford Junior graduated from the United States Indian Police
Academy at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Artisia,
New Mexico, worked continuously as an officer for over twenty
three years. He's written about his experiences in a very
unusual memoir, The Paranormal Ranger, A Navajo Investigator's search for
the Unexplained. And we're joined now by Stanley Milford Junior.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Hello, good morning, lead.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Good have you here, sir? So can you tell me here?
Can you tell me the first paranormal experience you had
as an officer.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
As an officer, one of the early earliest cases, even
before I was a part of the Special Projects unit,
was a what would be turned as a livestock utilation case,
and it involved a family that had lost twenty six
sheep within their sheep crown. They woke up and all
(01:10):
of these sheep, each individual sheep was slit from the
throat area, neck area all the way down to the
groin area. And unlike those cases that involved a predatory kill,
where you'll have the entrails and blood and all of
(01:31):
that stuff within that immediate area. It wasn't like that
they were all slit open like that, but there was
no They were all dead, but there was no there
was no blood or anything like that within the corral.
It's pretty shocking.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And there were a lot of them. It wasn't just
a few.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
There was twenty six, twenty six heads of sheep. The
sheep dogs that were a part of that morale or
that group of sheep wouldn't come around the corral. And
there was an odd, really odd odor, kind of a
petroleum melling odor involved around the corral.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
The paranormal ranger a Navajo investigator search for the unexplained.
So did this did this did you start seeing paranormal
activities right away? Or is it over the course of
the several years that you were UH serving as an
officer that you compiled all of.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
These Actually they once I got uh commissioned and began
work as a now a ranger, I was seeing uh
incidents were involving the paranormal UFOs and things of this nature.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Were you ever able to come to some simple explanations
of some of the.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Cases, Well, there was one haunting case that I took
care of that had the phenomenon known as an a
port where we had coins that would materialize out of
thin air and fall on the floor. And this kind
of shaped my view of this idea of portals or
(03:14):
other dimensions and other planes of existence. And I come
to surmise, both me and Jonathan Dover, my partner at
the time, that all of these things that we referred
to as the paranormal are interconnected by this phenomenon of dimensions,
whether it's Bigfoot or UFOs or ghosts or even the
(03:37):
witchcraft stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Makes sense. Stanley Milford Junior, who has written a book
it's called The Paranormal Ranger, A Navajo Investigator's Search for
the Unexplained. You were raised as a Navajo. What does
the Native American teachings that you learned growing up, what
do they say about paranormal activity.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Well, because it's an indigenous culture and you have like
five hundred and seventy something Native American tribes here in
the United States, not to mention Canada and Mexico, each
one of them have connections with things like star people,
(04:21):
and this idea of humans here on this planet coming
from some other location within the universe, so it's kind
of intertwined. You know, on the Naval reservation, it's twenty
seven thousand square miles of reservation, you know, the size
of West Virginia. And in a lot of that area,
(04:41):
because it's in Arizona, you have like red drop canyon
formations on these canyons. You have pictographs and petroglyphs from
the previous civilizations that depict things that might people might
infer as UFOs or star people or big would and
a lot of different things. So it's intertwined.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
The paranormal Ranger.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
And I did grow up around Tahlequah, Oklahoma too. Oh Okay,
I did live in that part of your country too.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So it wasn't just Navajo. I mean you got a
lot of the Cherokee heritage as well well.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
When I was two years old, my mother and father
separated and took my mother took me and my older
sister back to Taalaquah, where she was from, and we
were raised in the school there. But in the summertimes
we would my father would fly us out to the
reservation and we'd spend some of our summers.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Did you did you speak either of the languages.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I tried basically because I had a really hardcore hit
accident kind of class with the way things are pronouncement Navo,
so I didn't really pick up on it. A lot
of times I was made fun of, but I had
people that would hear me try to pronounced Navo words.
(06:01):
So I made a decision, as a little boy that
you know, I was, I chose not to do that.
I did learn some of the words over the years
working there.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, Stanley Milferd Junior, he is the Nava, the Paranormal Ranger,
a Navajo investigator search for the unexplained. Did you ever
encounter a paranormal event where whatever it was was speaking
that language.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
There was a haunting case where I went into a building,
an office space that was experiencing haunting and I had
something placed a hand or finger on my upper lip
and move it across. And immediately following that, there was
two male voices that were talking to each other and
(06:53):
that could have been in the Navo language too. I
couldn't make out what they were saying.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, yeah, you heard a human voice though it was distinct.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Oh yes, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Stanley Milford Junior, the Navajo he's the paranormal Ranger Navajo
investigator search for the Unexplained. And in your book you
also talk about how you believe that the paranormal events
seem to be there, seem to be more and more
of them, and there's a reason behind that.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I think that, you know, you'd be hard pressed to
find a family throughout the world that does not have
a family member somewhere in their family tree that has
not experienced some form of paranormal experience, whether that's the
in UFOs or hauntings or these other things. And so
I think it's more common than what we like to
(07:45):
let on.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Mine has been flickering of lights or lights coming on
or going off. Can that be attributed to bad electricity? Yeah,
but I prefer to think that it's I'm being communicated
with by my grandparents, because that's where it always happens,
in their bedroom.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Right. Well, I think as an investigator you have to
be you have to go into it kind of as
a blank sheet of paper and collect the evidence and
let the evidence speak for itself. Really, I mean, you
don't want to infer, but I'm like you, I mean,
you can there are certain background information related to those
(08:30):
experiences that can lend more to what the reality is
with it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, and all that said, there were experiences. I gather
you walked away from damned if I know what that was.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, Well, a lot of the paranormal is that very thing.
You really don't know how to how to quantify the experience.
Being a law enforcement and criminal investigator, Yeah, you go
through this process systematically, but a lot of times you're
left with more questions than you have as far as answers.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The Paranormal Ranger a Navajo's investigator, Search for the Unexplained.
It's a book by Stanley Milford, Junior, who served as
a Chief Navajo Ranger for over two years and twenty
three years of service. It's a great ghost story book
for this time of year, and I thank you for
bringing it to us.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Sir. Oh, thank you Lee for having me on your show.
I appreciate all of your audience. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Thanks for listening to Later with Lee Matthews, the Lee
Matthews Podcast, and remember to listen to The Drive Live
weekday afternoons from five to seven and iHeartMedia Presentation
This is later with Lee Matthews the Lee Matthews Podcast.
More what you hear Weekday Afternoon is on the Drive.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Stanley Milford Junior graduated from the United States Indian Police
Academy at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Artisia,
New Mexico, worked continuously as an officer for over twenty
three years. He's written about his experiences in a very
unusual memoir, The Paranormal Ranger, A Navajo Investigator's search for
the Unexplained. And we're joined now by Stanley Milford Junior.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Hello, good morning, lead.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Good have you here, sir? So can you tell me here?
Can you tell me the first paranormal experience you had
as an officer.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
As an officer, one of the early earliest cases, even
before I was a part of the Special Projects unit,
was a what would be turned as a livestock utilation case,
and it involved a family that had lost twenty six
sheep within their sheep crown. They woke up and all
(01:10):
of these sheep, each individual sheep was slit from the
throat area, neck area all the way down to the
groin area. And unlike those cases that involved a predatory kill,
where you'll have the entrails and blood and all of
(01:31):
that stuff within that immediate area. It wasn't like that
they were all slit open like that, but there was
no They were all dead, but there was no there
was no blood or anything like that within the corral.
It's pretty shocking.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And there were a lot of them. It wasn't just
a few.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
There was twenty six, twenty six heads of sheep. The
sheep dogs that were a part of that morale or
that group of sheep wouldn't come around the corral. And
there was an odd, really odd odor, kind of a
petroleum melling odor involved around the corral.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
The paranormal ranger a Navajo investigator search for the unexplained.
So did this did this did you start seeing paranormal
activities right away? Or is it over the course of
the several years that you were UH serving as an
officer that you compiled all of.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
These Actually they once I got uh commissioned and began
work as a now a ranger, I was seeing uh
incidents were involving the paranormal UFOs and things of this nature.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Were you ever able to come to some simple explanations
of some of the.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Cases, Well, there was one haunting case that I took
care of that had the phenomenon known as an a
port where we had coins that would materialize out of
thin air and fall on the floor. And this kind
of shaped my view of this idea of portals or
(03:14):
other dimensions and other planes of existence. And I come
to surmise, both me and Jonathan Dover, my partner at
the time, that all of these things that we referred
to as the paranormal are interconnected by this phenomenon of dimensions,
whether it's Bigfoot or UFOs or ghosts or even the
(03:37):
witchcraft stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Makes sense. Stanley Milford Junior, who has written a book
it's called The Paranormal Ranger, A Navajo Investigator's Search for
the Unexplained. You were raised as a Navajo. What does
the Native American teachings that you learned growing up, what
do they say about paranormal activity.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Well, because it's an indigenous culture and you have like
five hundred and seventy something Native American tribes here in
the United States, not to mention Canada and Mexico, each
one of them have connections with things like star people,
(04:21):
and this idea of humans here on this planet coming
from some other location within the universe, so it's kind
of intertwined. You know, on the Naval reservation, it's twenty
seven thousand square miles of reservation, you know, the size
of West Virginia. And in a lot of that area,
(04:41):
because it's in Arizona, you have like red drop canyon
formations on these canyons. You have pictographs and petroglyphs from
the previous civilizations that depict things that might people might
infer as UFOs or star people or big would and
a lot of different things. So it's intertwined.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
The paranormal Ranger.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
And I did grow up around Tahlequah, Oklahoma too. Oh Okay,
I did live in that part of your country too.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So it wasn't just Navajo. I mean you got a
lot of the Cherokee heritage as well well.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
When I was two years old, my mother and father
separated and took my mother took me and my older
sister back to Taalaquah, where she was from, and we
were raised in the school there. But in the summertimes
we would my father would fly us out to the
reservation and we'd spend some of our summers.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Did you did you speak either of the languages.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I tried basically because I had a really hardcore hit
accident kind of class with the way things are pronouncement Navo,
so I didn't really pick up on it. A lot
of times I was made fun of, but I had
people that would hear me try to pronounced Navo words.
(06:01):
So I made a decision, as a little boy that
you know, I was, I chose not to do that.
I did learn some of the words over the years
working there.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, Stanley Milferd Junior, he is the Nava, the Paranormal Ranger,
a Navajo investigator search for the unexplained. Did you ever
encounter a paranormal event where whatever it was was speaking
that language.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
There was a haunting case where I went into a building,
an office space that was experiencing haunting and I had
something placed a hand or finger on my upper lip
and move it across. And immediately following that, there was
two male voices that were talking to each other and
(06:53):
that could have been in the Navo language too. I
couldn't make out what they were saying.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, yeah, you heard a human voice though it was distinct.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Oh yes, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Stanley Milford Junior, the Navajo he's the paranormal Ranger Navajo
investigator search for the Unexplained. And in your book you
also talk about how you believe that the paranormal events
seem to be there, seem to be more and more
of them, and there's a reason behind that.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I think that, you know, you'd be hard pressed to
find a family throughout the world that does not have
a family member somewhere in their family tree that has
not experienced some form of paranormal experience, whether that's the
in UFOs or hauntings or these other things. And so
I think it's more common than what we like to
(07:45):
let on.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Mine has been flickering of lights or lights coming on
or going off. Can that be attributed to bad electricity? Yeah,
but I prefer to think that it's I'm being communicated
with by my grandparents, because that's where it always happens,
in their bedroom.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Right. Well, I think as an investigator you have to
be you have to go into it kind of as
a blank sheet of paper and collect the evidence and
let the evidence speak for itself. Really, I mean, you
don't want to infer, but I'm like you, I mean,
you can there are certain background information related to those
(08:30):
experiences that can lend more to what the reality is
with it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, and all that said, there were experiences. I gather
you walked away from damned if I know what that was.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, Well, a lot of the paranormal is that very thing.
You really don't know how to how to quantify the experience.
Being a law enforcement and criminal investigator, Yeah, you go
through this process systematically, but a lot of times you're
left with more questions than you have as far as answers.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The Paranormal Ranger a Navajo's investigator, Search for the Unexplained.
It's a book by Stanley Milford, Junior, who served as
a Chief Navajo Ranger for over two years and twenty
three years of service. It's a great ghost story book
for this time of year, and I thank you for
bringing it to us.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Sir. Oh, thank you Lee for having me on your show.
I appreciate all of your audience. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Thanks for listening to Later with Lee Matthews, the Lee
Matthews Podcast, and remember to listen to The Drive Live
weekday afternoons from five to seven and iHeartMedia Presentation
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