April 28, 2025 • 25 mins
Kim Tran, a bag designer with experience at Crocs, Vera Bradley, Vince Camuto, Coach and others, has some fundamental issues with the fashion industry. She believes it has stopped focusing on quality design and no longer cares about what’s best for customers and employees. This realization inspired her to launch her own mission-driven bag brand, Practice. She calls the brand’s no frills design “a mix between Prada and Patagonia”, and people are starting to get excited. Her best-selling product, the large Karma backpack, features a practical, minimalist design, is made in limited small batches. Practice What You Love https://www.practicewhatyoulove.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
She calls her brands a no frills design, a mix
between Prada and Patagonia, and she says the weight of
the world is quite heavy. Why put something else on
your back to carry everything around? You are gonna love
my interview with Kim tren She is the founder of
Practice Practice whatchu loove dot com. My conversation with Kim
(00:23):
is coming up next on the Art of Improvement. Thank
you so much for joining the Art of Improvement. I
am so happy to introduce you to Kim Trenn. She
is the founder of something called Practice. Thank you so
much for coming on today. Kim, thanks for having me
(00:44):
Karen So yes, absolutely so. When I tried to look
at your bio, I was thinking to myself, Wow, Okay,
you have a company called Practice. The name of the
website is Practice whatchu love dot com? And you a designer,
and you are a designer of bags that I.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Absolutely fell in love with.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Can you tell me a little bit about what Practice is,
what you sell, and how it all got started. Okay,
that'll take about thirty minutes, but you can start from
the beginning.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Okay, okay, okay. So it's a bad company.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
We focus on travel and everything is super functional. Everything
is intentional.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So when I.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Say that that's the biggest word or biggest reason the
brand exists, it's like very intentional. Right, So I mean
that from not only the standpoint of design and function,
but also like where I come from and what I'm
doing with the brand, and so that will tie into
what I called the practice what you love, So go
(01:51):
to practicewoulove dot com.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yes, absolutely, we already talked about this.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
But yeah, but all the information is there. I've been
designing bags for over fifteen years. Amazing brand, Super grateful
that I was lucky enough to work in the industry
as a designer. The percentage of people in my classes
or even in any field of design is so small
(02:19):
to be an actual design Yeah, it's crazy. I mean
I think people need to talk about that. I mean,
that could be another topic for another day.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
No, I really want to get to that. If you
if you could just give me a tiny, little you know, story,
I want you to come on again, because when I
think of designers, my own daughter loved that, and I
was like, that's like asking to become a Hollywood actress.
You know you have a one and trillion chance of
that happening. And maybe I'm being pessimistic, but it seemed
(02:47):
that way.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I would say that we I mean, being a Hollywood
actress require I mean there's a lot of different characters
and and your personality really counts.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Ironically that matters.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
And designer, well, I'm gonna say it's a little different.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
It's a little different.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
But the amount of personalities you have to because I've
worked with celebrity brand too. You know, I'm not saying
that like for a reason. I'm just saying, like, you
do have to deal with a lot of personalities.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It's very front facing.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
When I first started, I like to hide in the corner,
like I would just like just take my work and
let me go home.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
And and then I decided, you know what, that's it.
I'm fine. I just I'm just it's fine.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I'm out and open, especially now being front facing for
my own brand. You know, it requires a lot of
That's what they don't.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Talk about, I guess either.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
It's like you have to really be ready for that too, you.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Know, to be able to say this is me and
this is my idea. I'm sure it's a little terrifying
in the beginning, right, I.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Think working in corporate prepared me for it because I
had to present all the time, and.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Then I have to really believe in it.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
And then I rally all my cross functional partners to
like really believe an idea, because the only way to
really be successful in like a group setting is to
make everyone else believe it it was their idea. Also,
that kind of like stay in a positive way because
there's a negative connotation to that, right, Yes, you're like, okay,
(04:29):
the smartest thing to do is make people feel like
it's their idea and therefore they'll cherish it and then.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Bring it to fruition.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Right, But I actually when I did When I do that,
or like when I see other people do, I don't see.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
As a negative.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I think it's like rallying everybody around an idea, whether
there's psychology involved in or like, well you know what
about this and they're like, oh, here's an epiphany, but like,
Y already knew.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
The answer, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yes, yes, what's wrong with that?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
You know what's wrong with that? What's wrong with bringing
everyone to the table?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
You know? It's okay, it's positive.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
It's not like sometimes we need a lulle nudging, But
when we do that, it's all collectively an idea, then
it really becomes true, right, so we're all we're all.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Cheering it on and making it happen.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Yes, the energy actually resonates to the customer at the
end to with the product because there's like, you know,
a love involved.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I totally totally get what you're saying, I guess and
when I kind of like tensed up when you said that,
telling people that it was you know, their ideas.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's not an uncommon situation.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I think, right, right, And it's because sometimes the people
that are doing that are the people that you don't
want doing that. But I'm sure it's totally different when
you want when you are presenting something and you absolutely
love it yourself, you want others to love it, and
so getting them in all on the same page is
actually a fantastic accomplishment rather than somebody stealing your thunder.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
That's right. And in this setting, for me, I know
it's important to get credit free work. So I was like,
as long as I'm getting compensated if I'm working for
someone else, as long as I'm getting compensated, and there's
some sort of camaraderie within the team that's fine to me,
you know, and nothing's ever perfect, and we don't need
to go down that road.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I think we've all serious situations.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
But I think there's a little bit of a fire
inside you when you are working for you know, other
companies and you're just like, oh, underlying, I had no
control over myself, like I know I had to.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Do this, Like it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Like oh now that like the situation is this or
the world.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Is like that. I'm going to do this as I
always knew I wanted to do.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Something, but my my projection of like what.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I was going to do had changed.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
At one point, I didn't even know if I wanted
to do backs anymore. I just I wanted to do
like nonprofit or work with animals. Really, yes, yes, And
the primary focus for my brand is to somehow create
a really strong forum for charities and like highlighting causes
we believe in. However, I'm nobody and I can't really
(07:11):
advocate anything.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
So I am only good at doing backs.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I mean not only, but like I'm a designer, so
and I've been doing I'm really good at designing back
So it's like I can help people travel better, I
can help people have ergonomic design. I can help them
look cool without them even trying, you know, like you
shouldn't have to try, Like the years should do it
for you, right, I think like that.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
But if I.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Build practice and practice with what you love dot com? Yes, yes, yeah,
then then when we get big enough and people see
the intention and the care and the brand and how
I design it and how our team like brings you know,
the story to life, like how we tell the story
(07:52):
and how just like everyday things, we're just so we're
so down to earth, like I mean when I say that,
we're just like regular people. We're not trying to present
the brand as something bigger than it is, you know,
and that's a really big goal of art.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
It's just trying to be like, Okay, who are we really? Right?
And just as long as people like we align with
our authentic that's all we care about, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Okay, there's no gate keeping, but okay, sorry.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So no, no, no, So I have like ten million questions
and if I don't jump in, I'm never going to
remember them, okay. Kim No Kim Tran is founder of Practice.
The website is Practice which you Loove dot Com. She
is a bag designer and before we go on, I
have like questions about nonprofits because I know that that's huge,
(08:37):
but I also want people to know about your bags
because you said something and I was like so proud
because I was like, someday I will be like her,
because when you said, I am really great at designing bags,
and that is a statement that you really are sure
about and I love that. And when anybody goes to yeah,
(09:00):
when anybody goes to your website, you know practice which
youlove dot com, they're going to see that those are
bags that people can be proud to wear. But not
only that, and this is something we talked about before
we started recording in that is, sometimes you'll see a
really cool bag, you spend a gob of money on it,
but then when you get it, it's just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Work the way that you want it to.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And the more and more I looked at your bags,
I was like, oh, that that really would fill this
function that I have. And I mean that has that
always been part of your ideas when it comes to
designing bags?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, one hundred.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Everything is tested, like the harosl the Karma backpack. I
actually ordered like thirty or to fifty bags and I
sent them out to people that I my cousins, my friends,
people in the industry.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I just was like, test this bag for a month.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
The more I do, the mager order, I make sure.
And I'm not just like I'm not just like one
demographic or this. I'm like, I have you know, older,
you know, demographic, younger demographic, school students, professionals, you know,
world travelers.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Domestic travelers.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I mean when I say that, I mean like car traveling.
It's a different thing, you know. And then flight train whatever,
bus like all that. I'm making sure everyone does that
and then they take note. I wear the bags, and
I can tell you this one thing. I have to
wear the back by design all the time. Right, this
is my favorite backpack.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I know that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Like I've literally bought every backpack in the market to
tests or to see how it works or how to
improve different aspects of different backpacks, you know, and this
is by far my favorite. And I'm a backpack where
like I'm from California. Everyone wears backpacks.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
We travel with them. It's very casual. Like you know,
if you gond like all day, you have a jacket
in there.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Because I'm in the say area, it's like yep, it's.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Hot during the day and then freezing at night. So
I always had a backprack.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
So I've been wearing back cracks since I was like five, right,
and then I never stopped. So for me, I'm like,
if if I can perfect a backpack that I would
wear every day, I know there's.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
A customer for that, and it's not even perfect for everyone.
I want to be very honest.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Like there are people like different types of things, you know,
and I think that the customer looking for this will
be like over the moon.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I've had a customer order three bags. I just got a.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Review like yes or Chidavio, and she was like, this
is my third order because I love the backprack and
where the plog is aren't.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Like I was so shocked because I've only been out
for a year.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Dude, yeah yeah, Like is not even possible, Like you
bought three I mean I love you, you know, yeah,
I mean shout out for her, I think, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, So how did you decide on the material that
you use?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Well, that's that's easy because it's just science, right, I
mean it's just nylon. Nylon is one of the most durable,
lightweight fabrics. So what you'll see in the market is
sometimes even though market as nylon and it's actually not.
And on top of that, it's polyester, and polyester will pill.
And I don't want to call other brands, but after
(12:22):
testing products in general for you know, competition like market competition,
you have to do that in any company. Mostly for
other corporations, they pill and these are big companies and
you it's like I think people expect certain things when
they pay certain thing. Also, the way I design it
(12:44):
is we put the money into the areas that matter,
so like you don't even notice, you don't notice that
that's like nylon over polyester.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Most people can't tell a difference, But for me, I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I think that durability is really important at least for
like the tear strength, right, I mean thing scratch and
like whatever physical I actually like things that have like
battle scars, you know, it's like you really travel, you really.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Like arts, people you know either cool like aspect that.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
But as far as tear strength and durability, I think
that's really important to me.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
For like the nylons, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
It won't pill, and it's got a little bit of
tense and tensile stretch, so that stretch allows the.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Bag to be more durable as well.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
That's what the difference between nylon and polyesters, like, there's
a little more stretch in the nylon threads than there
is in the polyester, which is like a little more brittle,
is it?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Go ahead?
Speaker 4 (13:40):
So like to be to be very clear that materials
chowsen for mostly functional and functional.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
It's a lot of repellent.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
There's a lot of key aspects.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I don't coat them because that's up to you.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
If you want to, you can discratch.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Card it and that's people.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
I don't really want to add more chemicals onto things.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
But right, so is it my imagination or it to me?
It seemed like your bags are not trendy. And when
I say that, I'm talking about the colors. I'm talking
about the way they look. Can you talk about that
a little?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah, they're evergreen, which is basically.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I don't think trendy is a good or a bad word.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
It's just an addictive to me, like analytical term. But no,
they're classics, like I didn't design. That's the most sustainable
thing I could do as a brand. And I love
that you asked of Karen, because I always forget to
talk about this. There's like the company is so multifas
it is like the way it was built, but like sustainability,
(14:42):
I mean, the most sustainable thing you can do as
a designer. It's designed something that nobody wants to throw away.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And I know, I.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Totally get what you're saying, and you're right about the
word trendy. Trendy can be good, trendy can be bad.
But when I see certain colors, like, hey, doesn't anybody
know that when you see hot pink or whatever, you think, oh,
you know, that looks like it's from the eighties or whatever.
But I felt like there was such a neutral ness
(15:13):
to your brand, not only with the colors but also
the style that it is. It doesn't even have a
sex to it. It's not for women, it's.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Not for men. It's for anybody that needs it. I
love you, No, you don't love me.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
You're just saying that, Hey, practice what you love, Practice
what you love dot com, Practice what you love dot com.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I want to tell everyone, Karen and I did not
discuss any of these rings recording, Like, I'm so happy
that you I mean, but you're I think you're a beyond,
like I think there's an entitle engine level there because
at least in the industry or something, because I was worried, like.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Are people going to unders everything we're saying, you know,
and the fact that like we didn't have.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
This conversation at all whatsoever, and you are bringing up
all the same topics that like they really want to highlight.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Good.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
I love it good.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Than so much for that, And you know, I know
your background. You're welcome, absolutely well. I don't I don't
mind spending money on something that I'm going to keep
for a long time, and I don't want to diss
any you know, different.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Brand that I've purchased.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, but I have to say one of the most
hurtful things that ever happened to me, and I am
gonna mention it, but I bought a Lululemon bag gosh
a zillion years ago and I loved it. And I
thought that the color was not too flashy. It was
just like a lemon yellow and I was like, oh,
this is cute, you know, it's a little Papa color.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
But it's not.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
But I, for the life of me, it did not work.
I had to dig to the bottom. There were there
were pockets and cute places, but nothing fit into the pockets.
Nothing about it for me except for this strap. I
love that you could actually make the strap longer, which
I like to wear mine a little bit lower. And
so when I saw yourself, was like, Okay, this is
(17:10):
this could be the answer to exactly what I was
looking for, and it did. It did kind of make
me mad because I recently I told you I just
bought a purse and I spent a few hundred dollars
on it. Yet here I am again digging for things
and never maybe sometimes having to leave because I never
found what I was looking for. But I especially like
(17:33):
that crossbody bag that you have, because I feel like
I've had good luck with crossbodies, but I haven't jumped
over the line on having a bigger purchase. Do you
feel like crossbody is just easier for people? Why are
people wearing crossbody more and more?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I think that.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
The weight of the world is quite heavy, so why
would we want.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
To carry more on our backs?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Number one, Right, there's a lot of things you have
to carry anyway, So people now are pairing down.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
So I think especially if.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
You're in the city, uh, like, if you're in New
York or Yeah, if you're in New York and your
travel you're just like using public transportation.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
It's just so hard to.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Carry big bags around if you're if you have a
specific event to go to. I think what happens is
the reason why I cross body bags are super popular
is that they go inside other bags.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
You know what I'm saying. So I think smile are traveling.
Say I'm traveling.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
With my Karma backpack and the mini Karma crossbody, right,
I usually will have. I will usually carry a smaller
bag to quit in my backpack so that when I
arrive at my destination then I can pull it out
and I can use that for the day or evening.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
And they just like kind of hold because nowadays phones
are so big too. Before you can put in your pocket.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
You can get away with not even wearing a bag before,
I think, but now you have to our phones and
then everyone's hydrating.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
That bag is tiny.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
But I'll hold like a tiny water bottle, like you
know those little like I don't like, I'm I'm not
if I'm supposed to be sustannimal, but we all like
have picked up a water bottle before and it fits
in there, and so I think all the things that
you're talking about before when you're like, oh, I have
this bag and it's adorable.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
But like, uh, it's not ergonomic, right, it's not functional.
All of the bag, every height of the pocket is.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Intentionally cut so that even if it is a bigger bag,
then the pocket will cut shorter so that you don't
have to dig all the way down to get to
the bottle of the pocket, you know, yep, and yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And so for that cross about it, I intentionally made
it big enough that you if you had to put
a water bottle, you can.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
I don't want it to be that, you know, like that,
So it's very snug, but it's like it's when.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
At the end of the day you want to just
be hands free.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
You don't care if you just want to put things
in there.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
So that works.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I also have a back pocket, but it depends on
your phone case.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Like if you have a giant phone, it's not gonna fit.
But I don't. I can't.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I can't design it for everybody. If your phone is
that big, it should be inside the bag. That's all
about that, you know what I mean, you want to
really have that big of a phone put it inside
the bag because it will be so massive and pull
the weight to the back anyway. So that was also
But if your phone is like my small or medium
ill fit, you know, and I can't.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
So like you have to know where.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
You have to pick and shoes it's very hard you
have to pick and shoes like all those things. But again,
the cross body is.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
The most universal bag.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
And I would say men and women, and I think
of that Seinfeld.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Episde every time, like the European carry all. I think
it's fine for men to wear bags.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
And I have plenty of cool dude friends that like
wear my bags, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, and it's about time. It's about time day carry stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Instead of having put it.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
In your berth, put it in your berth.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
No, no, and like and you shouldn't have to put
it in your giant weird pocket cargo pants, aren't it?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
You know?
Speaker 4 (21:00):
So where that you know, Europeans de all the time
when I go for like, okay, so I was in
Berlin and every guy had a bag, every guy, and
it's very similar to like the one of the demilins
that I designed.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
It's very European.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
So it's so true.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I mean It's like, so I have I have, I
like associate turned bags to different countries, you know, or
different cities, and I think the Mini Crossbody is like
my Tokyo bag.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
And then I think.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
The Demulin is Berlin, you know, yes, yes, And Karma
Backcrack is very New York, and I say the medium
Karma Backpack is more California because New York, I think
I have to carry more stuff during the day.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
In California. I feel like I'm just commuting, you.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Know, yep, yep. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
It's interesting if you have not gone to the website,
if you have been searching for the perfect bag, practice
what youlove dot com That is the website you need
to go to. And I am speaking with Kim Tree.
She's the founder of practice. And you know what, Kim,
we only have a couple of minutes left, but I
definitely wanted for you to talk about your charity because
(22:10):
you give, like your profits donated, you know, to your charity.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
What charity is it.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
It's called eleven Second Kansas and it's run by two
sisters in the Bay Area and they say dogs from everywhere,
like they have a network of people where they're flying
dogs from Asia, like I have no other place and
go to homes in the Bay Area and across the country.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
So amazing.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I actually, yeah, they're just really nice and yeah they're
they're fringing like lovely.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, so so good. And I just I know one
final question.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I keep on saying that, but I think it's really
do you think it's important these days to give back?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I mean, how did you even decide to do that?
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Actually it was the primary, Like, there's the primary reason
I started the brand. I don't think I could ever
be only passionate about I mean, I love products, and
I love the customer. I think designing for the customer
is my favorite part in general. I just love people.
People are I mean, like it sounds so random. It's
(23:15):
like how you were when you're like, I love the
you know you have this very like strong function based design.
I'm like, this is why I love you.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Like people get it now.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
And when you see other people like you getting it
and you're like they've been looking for you, and you've
been looking.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
For them when you want to do these things for them.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
It makes me so happy. And that and then tying
it in with making a space for us to like
talk about different different charities and different causes.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I'm just that was the primary. Again.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I had to build a brand in order to like
something I'm good at, to be able to call out.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
We care about.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, I get goosebumps. I mean that that's good. I
love that.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well. A long time ago, somebody said that the same
do what you love and the money will come as
just bs.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And you know, I kind of am right there.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
But if you are working hard for something that you
absolutely love, obviously there's going to be an idea that
makes it happen. And I'm assuming that's what practice what
you love is all about.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
And we just want to make people happy to I mean,
we're just now we're a product and we're not hiding that.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
We're pretty clear about like what.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
We do, but we want to just have we want
to just make everyone feel like invited to the brand
and like have a space where we can like feel
good about what we're doing and how we're doing things.
You know, it doesn't have to be shoved in your face,
you know. Yeah, well people can find it and it's there,
but we mean it the intention.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Right back to life full of three sixty intention. Right.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
So I'm I'm so excited for you. I'm so excited
for your future. I am really excited for people to
go to your website. If you just heard the end
of this, this is Kim Tran and she is the
founder of Practice and the website is Practice what you
Love dot com. And I have been thrilled to talk
to you, and I hope that maybe you come back
(25:19):
on and do another podcast, because I really do want
to know how did you become a designer so quickly?
You're so young?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, well do that? Okay, to do that.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Yeah, I'm excited about that one. We were talking about
that a little bit before. Yeah, okay, you're so insightful.
I loved it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Okay, remember everybody go to Practice what you Love dot com.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Thank you, Kim for telling us your story or a
little bit of it.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Thank you so much for having me
She calls her brands a no frills design, a mix
between Prada and Patagonia, and she says the weight of
the world is quite heavy. Why put something else on
your back to carry everything around? You are gonna love
my interview with Kim tren She is the founder of
Practice Practice whatchu loove dot com. My conversation with Kim
(00:23):
is coming up next on the Art of Improvement. Thank
you so much for joining the Art of Improvement. I
am so happy to introduce you to Kim Trenn. She
is the founder of something called Practice. Thank you so
much for coming on today. Kim, thanks for having me
(00:44):
Karen So yes, absolutely so. When I tried to look
at your bio, I was thinking to myself, Wow, Okay,
you have a company called Practice. The name of the
website is Practice whatchu love dot com? And you a designer,
and you are a designer of bags that I.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Absolutely fell in love with.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Can you tell me a little bit about what Practice is,
what you sell, and how it all got started. Okay,
that'll take about thirty minutes, but you can start from
the beginning.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Okay, okay, okay. So it's a bad company.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
We focus on travel and everything is super functional. Everything
is intentional.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So when I.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Say that that's the biggest word or biggest reason the
brand exists, it's like very intentional. Right, So I mean
that from not only the standpoint of design and function,
but also like where I come from and what I'm
doing with the brand, and so that will tie into
what I called the practice what you love, So go
(01:51):
to practicewoulove dot com.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yes, absolutely, we already talked about this.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
But yeah, but all the information is there. I've been
designing bags for over fifteen years. Amazing brand, Super grateful
that I was lucky enough to work in the industry
as a designer. The percentage of people in my classes
or even in any field of design is so small
(02:19):
to be an actual design Yeah, it's crazy. I mean
I think people need to talk about that. I mean,
that could be another topic for another day.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
No, I really want to get to that. If you
if you could just give me a tiny, little you know, story,
I want you to come on again, because when I
think of designers, my own daughter loved that, and I
was like, that's like asking to become a Hollywood actress.
You know you have a one and trillion chance of
that happening. And maybe I'm being pessimistic, but it seemed
(02:47):
that way.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I would say that we I mean, being a Hollywood
actress require I mean there's a lot of different characters
and and your personality really counts.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Ironically that matters.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
And designer, well, I'm gonna say it's a little different.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
It's a little different.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
But the amount of personalities you have to because I've
worked with celebrity brand too. You know, I'm not saying
that like for a reason. I'm just saying, like, you
do have to deal with a lot of personalities.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It's very front facing.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
When I first started, I like to hide in the corner,
like I would just like just take my work and
let me go home.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
And and then I decided, you know what, that's it.
I'm fine. I just I'm just it's fine.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I'm out and open, especially now being front facing for
my own brand. You know, it requires a lot of
That's what they don't.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Talk about, I guess either.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
It's like you have to really be ready for that too, you.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Know, to be able to say this is me and
this is my idea. I'm sure it's a little terrifying
in the beginning, right, I.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Think working in corporate prepared me for it because I
had to present all the time, and.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Then I have to really believe in it.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
And then I rally all my cross functional partners to
like really believe an idea, because the only way to
really be successful in like a group setting is to
make everyone else believe it it was their idea. Also,
that kind of like stay in a positive way because
there's a negative connotation to that, right, Yes, you're like, okay,
(04:29):
the smartest thing to do is make people feel like
it's their idea and therefore they'll cherish it and then.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Bring it to fruition.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Right, But I actually when I did When I do that,
or like when I see other people do, I don't see.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
As a negative.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I think it's like rallying everybody around an idea, whether
there's psychology involved in or like, well you know what
about this and they're like, oh, here's an epiphany, but like,
Y already knew.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
The answer, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yes, yes, what's wrong with that?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
You know what's wrong with that? What's wrong with bringing
everyone to the table?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
You know? It's okay, it's positive.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
It's not like sometimes we need a lulle nudging, But
when we do that, it's all collectively an idea, then
it really becomes true, right, so we're all we're all.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Cheering it on and making it happen.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Yes, the energy actually resonates to the customer at the
end to with the product because there's like, you know,
a love involved.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I totally totally get what you're saying, I guess and
when I kind of like tensed up when you said that,
telling people that it was you know, their ideas.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's not an uncommon situation.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I think, right, right, And it's because sometimes the people
that are doing that are the people that you don't
want doing that. But I'm sure it's totally different when
you want when you are presenting something and you absolutely
love it yourself, you want others to love it, and
so getting them in all on the same page is
actually a fantastic accomplishment rather than somebody stealing your thunder.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
That's right. And in this setting, for me, I know
it's important to get credit free work. So I was like,
as long as I'm getting compensated if I'm working for
someone else, as long as I'm getting compensated, and there's
some sort of camaraderie within the team that's fine to me,
you know, and nothing's ever perfect, and we don't need
to go down that road.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I think we've all serious situations.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
But I think there's a little bit of a fire
inside you when you are working for you know, other
companies and you're just like, oh, underlying, I had no
control over myself, like I know I had to.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Do this, Like it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Like oh now that like the situation is this or
the world.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Is like that. I'm going to do this as I
always knew I wanted to do.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Something, but my my projection of like what.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I was going to do had changed.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
At one point, I didn't even know if I wanted
to do backs anymore. I just I wanted to do
like nonprofit or work with animals. Really, yes, yes, And
the primary focus for my brand is to somehow create
a really strong forum for charities and like highlighting causes
we believe in. However, I'm nobody and I can't really
(07:11):
advocate anything.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
So I am only good at doing backs.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I mean not only, but like I'm a designer, so
and I've been doing I'm really good at designing back
So it's like I can help people travel better, I
can help people have ergonomic design. I can help them
look cool without them even trying, you know, like you
shouldn't have to try, Like the years should do it
for you, right, I think like that.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
But if I.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Build practice and practice with what you love dot com? Yes, yes, yeah,
then then when we get big enough and people see
the intention and the care and the brand and how
I design it and how our team like brings you know,
the story to life, like how we tell the story
(07:52):
and how just like everyday things, we're just so we're
so down to earth, like I mean when I say that,
we're just like regular people. We're not trying to present
the brand as something bigger than it is, you know,
and that's a really big goal of art.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
It's just trying to be like, Okay, who are we really? Right?
And just as long as people like we align with
our authentic that's all we care about, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Okay, there's no gate keeping, but okay, sorry.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So no, no, no, So I have like ten million questions
and if I don't jump in, I'm never going to
remember them, okay. Kim No Kim Tran is founder of Practice.
The website is Practice which you Loove dot Com. She
is a bag designer and before we go on, I
have like questions about nonprofits because I know that that's huge,
(08:37):
but I also want people to know about your bags
because you said something and I was like so proud
because I was like, someday I will be like her,
because when you said, I am really great at designing bags,
and that is a statement that you really are sure
about and I love that. And when anybody goes to yeah,
(09:00):
when anybody goes to your website, you know practice which
youlove dot com, they're going to see that those are
bags that people can be proud to wear. But not
only that, and this is something we talked about before
we started recording in that is, sometimes you'll see a
really cool bag, you spend a gob of money on it,
but then when you get it, it's just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Work the way that you want it to.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And the more and more I looked at your bags,
I was like, oh, that that really would fill this
function that I have. And I mean that has that
always been part of your ideas when it comes to
designing bags?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, one hundred.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Everything is tested, like the harosl the Karma backpack. I
actually ordered like thirty or to fifty bags and I
sent them out to people that I my cousins, my friends,
people in the industry.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I just was like, test this bag for a month.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
The more I do, the mager order, I make sure.
And I'm not just like I'm not just like one
demographic or this. I'm like, I have you know, older,
you know, demographic, younger demographic, school students, professionals, you know,
world travelers.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Domestic travelers.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I mean when I say that, I mean like car traveling.
It's a different thing, you know. And then flight train whatever,
bus like all that. I'm making sure everyone does that
and then they take note. I wear the bags, and
I can tell you this one thing. I have to
wear the back by design all the time. Right, this
is my favorite backpack.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I know that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Like I've literally bought every backpack in the market to
tests or to see how it works or how to
improve different aspects of different backpacks, you know, and this
is by far my favorite. And I'm a backpack where
like I'm from California. Everyone wears backpacks.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
We travel with them. It's very casual. Like you know,
if you gond like all day, you have a jacket
in there.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Because I'm in the say area, it's like yep, it's.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Hot during the day and then freezing at night. So
I always had a backprack.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
So I've been wearing back cracks since I was like five, right,
and then I never stopped. So for me, I'm like,
if if I can perfect a backpack that I would
wear every day, I know there's.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
A customer for that, and it's not even perfect for everyone.
I want to be very honest.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Like there are people like different types of things, you know,
and I think that the customer looking for this will
be like over the moon.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I've had a customer order three bags. I just got a.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Review like yes or Chidavio, and she was like, this
is my third order because I love the backprack and
where the plog is aren't.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Like I was so shocked because I've only been out
for a year.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Dude, yeah yeah, Like is not even possible, Like you
bought three I mean I love you, you know, yeah,
I mean shout out for her, I think, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, So how did you decide on the material that
you use?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Well, that's that's easy because it's just science, right, I
mean it's just nylon. Nylon is one of the most durable,
lightweight fabrics. So what you'll see in the market is
sometimes even though market as nylon and it's actually not.
And on top of that, it's polyester, and polyester will pill.
And I don't want to call other brands, but after
(12:22):
testing products in general for you know, competition like market competition,
you have to do that in any company. Mostly for
other corporations, they pill and these are big companies and
you it's like I think people expect certain things when
they pay certain thing. Also, the way I design it
(12:44):
is we put the money into the areas that matter,
so like you don't even notice, you don't notice that
that's like nylon over polyester.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Most people can't tell a difference, But for me, I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I think that durability is really important at least for
like the tear strength, right, I mean thing scratch and
like whatever physical I actually like things that have like
battle scars, you know, it's like you really travel, you really.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Like arts, people you know either cool like aspect that.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
But as far as tear strength and durability, I think
that's really important to me.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
For like the nylons, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
It won't pill, and it's got a little bit of
tense and tensile stretch, so that stretch allows the.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Bag to be more durable as well.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
That's what the difference between nylon and polyesters, like, there's
a little more stretch in the nylon threads than there
is in the polyester, which is like a little more brittle,
is it?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Go ahead?
Speaker 4 (13:40):
So like to be to be very clear that materials
chowsen for mostly functional and functional.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
It's a lot of repellent.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
There's a lot of key aspects.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I don't coat them because that's up to you.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
If you want to, you can discratch.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Card it and that's people.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
I don't really want to add more chemicals onto things.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
But right, so is it my imagination or it to me?
It seemed like your bags are not trendy. And when
I say that, I'm talking about the colors. I'm talking
about the way they look. Can you talk about that
a little?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah, they're evergreen, which is basically.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I don't think trendy is a good or a bad word.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
It's just an addictive to me, like analytical term. But no,
they're classics, like I didn't design. That's the most sustainable
thing I could do as a brand. And I love
that you asked of Karen, because I always forget to
talk about this. There's like the company is so multifas
it is like the way it was built, but like sustainability,
(14:42):
I mean, the most sustainable thing you can do as
a designer. It's designed something that nobody wants to throw away.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And I know, I.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Totally get what you're saying, and you're right about the
word trendy. Trendy can be good, trendy can be bad.
But when I see certain colors, like, hey, doesn't anybody
know that when you see hot pink or whatever, you think, oh,
you know, that looks like it's from the eighties or whatever.
But I felt like there was such a neutral ness
(15:13):
to your brand, not only with the colors but also
the style that it is. It doesn't even have a
sex to it. It's not for women, it's.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Not for men. It's for anybody that needs it. I
love you, No, you don't love me.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
You're just saying that, Hey, practice what you love, Practice
what you love dot com, Practice what you love dot com.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I want to tell everyone, Karen and I did not
discuss any of these rings recording, Like, I'm so happy
that you I mean, but you're I think you're a beyond,
like I think there's an entitle engine level there because
at least in the industry or something, because I was worried, like.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Are people going to unders everything we're saying, you know,
and the fact that like we didn't have.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
This conversation at all whatsoever, and you are bringing up
all the same topics that like they really want to highlight.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Good.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
I love it good.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Than so much for that, And you know, I know
your background. You're welcome, absolutely well. I don't I don't
mind spending money on something that I'm going to keep
for a long time, and I don't want to diss
any you know, different.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Brand that I've purchased.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, but I have to say one of the most
hurtful things that ever happened to me, and I am
gonna mention it, but I bought a Lululemon bag gosh
a zillion years ago and I loved it. And I
thought that the color was not too flashy. It was
just like a lemon yellow and I was like, oh,
this is cute, you know, it's a little Papa color.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
But it's not.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
But I, for the life of me, it did not work.
I had to dig to the bottom. There were there
were pockets and cute places, but nothing fit into the pockets.
Nothing about it for me except for this strap. I
love that you could actually make the strap longer, which
I like to wear mine a little bit lower. And
so when I saw yourself, was like, Okay, this is
(17:10):
this could be the answer to exactly what I was
looking for, and it did. It did kind of make
me mad because I recently I told you I just
bought a purse and I spent a few hundred dollars
on it. Yet here I am again digging for things
and never maybe sometimes having to leave because I never
found what I was looking for. But I especially like
(17:33):
that crossbody bag that you have, because I feel like
I've had good luck with crossbodies, but I haven't jumped
over the line on having a bigger purchase. Do you
feel like crossbody is just easier for people? Why are
people wearing crossbody more and more?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I think that.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
The weight of the world is quite heavy, so why
would we want.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
To carry more on our backs?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Number one, Right, there's a lot of things you have
to carry anyway, So people now are pairing down.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
So I think especially if.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
You're in the city, uh, like, if you're in New
York or Yeah, if you're in New York and your
travel you're just like using public transportation.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
It's just so hard to.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Carry big bags around if you're if you have a
specific event to go to. I think what happens is
the reason why I cross body bags are super popular
is that they go inside other bags.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
You know what I'm saying. So I think smile are traveling.
Say I'm traveling.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
With my Karma backpack and the mini Karma crossbody, right,
I usually will have. I will usually carry a smaller
bag to quit in my backpack so that when I
arrive at my destination then I can pull it out
and I can use that for the day or evening.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
And they just like kind of hold because nowadays phones
are so big too. Before you can put in your pocket.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
You can get away with not even wearing a bag before,
I think, but now you have to our phones and
then everyone's hydrating.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
That bag is tiny.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
But I'll hold like a tiny water bottle, like you
know those little like I don't like, I'm I'm not
if I'm supposed to be sustannimal, but we all like
have picked up a water bottle before and it fits
in there, and so I think all the things that
you're talking about before when you're like, oh, I have
this bag and it's adorable.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
But like, uh, it's not ergonomic, right, it's not functional.
All of the bag, every height of the pocket is.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Intentionally cut so that even if it is a bigger bag,
then the pocket will cut shorter so that you don't
have to dig all the way down to get to
the bottle of the pocket, you know, yep, and yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And so for that cross about it, I intentionally made
it big enough that you if you had to put
a water bottle, you can.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
I don't want it to be that, you know, like that,
So it's very snug, but it's like it's when.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
At the end of the day you want to just
be hands free.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
You don't care if you just want to put things
in there.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
So that works.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I also have a back pocket, but it depends on
your phone case.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Like if you have a giant phone, it's not gonna fit.
But I don't. I can't.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I can't design it for everybody. If your phone is
that big, it should be inside the bag. That's all
about that, you know what I mean, you want to
really have that big of a phone put it inside
the bag because it will be so massive and pull
the weight to the back anyway. So that was also
But if your phone is like my small or medium
ill fit, you know, and I can't.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
So like you have to know where.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
You have to pick and shoes it's very hard you
have to pick and shoes like all those things. But again,
the cross body is.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
The most universal bag.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
And I would say men and women, and I think
of that Seinfeld.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Episde every time, like the European carry all. I think
it's fine for men to wear bags.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
And I have plenty of cool dude friends that like
wear my bags, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, and it's about time. It's about time day carry stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Instead of having put it.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
In your berth, put it in your berth.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
No, no, and like and you shouldn't have to put
it in your giant weird pocket cargo pants, aren't it?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
You know?
Speaker 4 (21:00):
So where that you know, Europeans de all the time
when I go for like, okay, so I was in
Berlin and every guy had a bag, every guy, and
it's very similar to like the one of the demilins
that I designed.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
It's very European.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
So it's so true.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I mean It's like, so I have I have, I
like associate turned bags to different countries, you know, or
different cities, and I think the Mini Crossbody is like
my Tokyo bag.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
And then I think.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
The Demulin is Berlin, you know, yes, yes, And Karma
Backcrack is very New York, and I say the medium
Karma Backpack is more California because New York, I think
I have to carry more stuff during the day.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
In California. I feel like I'm just commuting, you.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Know, yep, yep. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
It's interesting if you have not gone to the website,
if you have been searching for the perfect bag, practice
what youlove dot com That is the website you need
to go to. And I am speaking with Kim Tree.
She's the founder of practice. And you know what, Kim,
we only have a couple of minutes left, but I
definitely wanted for you to talk about your charity because
(22:10):
you give, like your profits donated, you know, to your charity.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
What charity is it.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
It's called eleven Second Kansas and it's run by two
sisters in the Bay Area and they say dogs from everywhere,
like they have a network of people where they're flying
dogs from Asia, like I have no other place and
go to homes in the Bay Area and across the country.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
So amazing.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I actually, yeah, they're just really nice and yeah they're
they're fringing like lovely.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, so so good. And I just I know one
final question.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I keep on saying that, but I think it's really
do you think it's important these days to give back?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I mean, how did you even decide to do that?
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Actually it was the primary, Like, there's the primary reason
I started the brand. I don't think I could ever
be only passionate about I mean, I love products, and
I love the customer. I think designing for the customer
is my favorite part in general. I just love people.
People are I mean, like it sounds so random. It's
(23:15):
like how you were when you're like, I love the
you know you have this very like strong function based design.
I'm like, this is why I love you.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Like people get it now.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
And when you see other people like you getting it
and you're like they've been looking for you, and you've
been looking.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
For them when you want to do these things for them.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
It makes me so happy. And that and then tying
it in with making a space for us to like
talk about different different charities and different causes.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I'm just that was the primary. Again.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I had to build a brand in order to like
something I'm good at, to be able to call out.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
We care about.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, I get goosebumps. I mean that that's good. I
love that.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well. A long time ago, somebody said that the same
do what you love and the money will come as
just bs.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And you know, I kind of am right there.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
But if you are working hard for something that you
absolutely love, obviously there's going to be an idea that
makes it happen. And I'm assuming that's what practice what
you love is all about.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
And we just want to make people happy to I mean,
we're just now we're a product and we're not hiding that.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
We're pretty clear about like what.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
We do, but we want to just have we want
to just make everyone feel like invited to the brand
and like have a space where we can like feel
good about what we're doing and how we're doing things.
You know, it doesn't have to be shoved in your face,
you know. Yeah, well people can find it and it's there,
but we mean it the intention.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Right back to life full of three sixty intention. Right.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
So I'm I'm so excited for you. I'm so excited
for your future. I am really excited for people to
go to your website. If you just heard the end
of this, this is Kim Tran and she is the
founder of Practice and the website is Practice what you
Love dot com. And I have been thrilled to talk
to you, and I hope that maybe you come back
(25:19):
on and do another podcast, because I really do want
to know how did you become a designer so quickly?
You're so young?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, well do that? Okay, to do that.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Yeah, I'm excited about that one. We were talking about
that a little bit before. Yeah, okay, you're so insightful.
I loved it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Okay, remember everybody go to Practice what you Love dot com.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Thank you, Kim for telling us your story or a
little bit of it.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Thank you so much for having me
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