Following Boo Boo's death, plunging Tim into profound grief, opened doors to a new spiritual dimension. Through his experiences with orbs, spirit guides, angels, and so many other mystical entities, Tim found a renewed sense of purpose and a deeper connection to the universe, and to Boo Boo.
"Behind the Veil" is a testament to the resilience of the human spirit and the transformative power of love. It offers both hope and encouragement to those struggling with addiction, and Tim's story is a beacon of light for anyone who has faced rock bottom. This book also provides an inspirational and sweeping foundation of knowledge for those seeking a deeper understanding of the spiritual realm.
Episode Transcript
Holiday season. It's also a time of renewal. I love
to hear stories and let people tell stories on the
air in hopes that it connects with other people who
are listening and it can be of benefit in advancing
someone else's life down a better path. We'll put it
(00:20):
that way. Welcome to the studio, Tim Malone. It's good
to see.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You, Thanks Terry, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy Hanuka, happy to you, happy everything,
season's greetings, all the other things we're supposed to say.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
You look great. You look tan. You've been You've been
on a trip or something. No, I haven't been on
a trip, but you look you look happy and healthy.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Oh yeah, I work out and actually I work out
it with Walker Allen, who was just on the show,
the guy that did the two hundred and forty miles.
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm in his gym.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Oh that's pretty fantastic.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Another person who works out with you contacted me about you.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Scottie. Oh, I love Scotty. I just met him too.
He doesn't have any stories, does he.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I guess it's okay for since you out of him,
I didn't Scott Davenport the former head coach of Bellerman University.
He texted me and he said, Terry, you got to
talk to this guy, Scott. He's a good dude. I
appreciate he's got a good heart. He's our age. You
and I and Scott, you are all around the same window.
You've had a great life, just like I was talking
(01:26):
about the movie It's a wonderful life and George Bailey
goes through what would life have been had I not
been here? You have how many grandchildren? Ten grandchildren and
they're all ones better than the next one. Right, Oh, yeah,
it's all great. They're all fans in Louisville, so that's wonderful.
Oh man, he get in love on those grandkids all
the time. Yeah, that's a good story. I like that.
(01:50):
You've been through some challenges, Yes I have. Don't. I
don't know how comfortable you are telling, but but do
share and what you feel up to in terms of
you're moving along in life. You've got a successful business
with your brother.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, I'm Malone Staffing Malone Workforce Solutions with my brother.
My father started it and we built the company to
you know, twenty thirty million. But then life got in
the way. And I was going through a horrible divorce,
and at that point I started going to a therapist.
Then I'll never forget the therapist telling me, you know,
(02:31):
when you're going through a divorce like that, you better
watch out for addictions because you're going to seek things
that can, you know, replace what you're missing. And I
really didn't listen to them. I was at a football
game with somebody I thought was a friend and they
handed me a couple of pills and that was it.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I loved it. What did they say? What did this
friend say.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Take a couple of these and you'll really love it
and you'll feel great.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
But you're a grown man. You have logic, you have
critical thinking skills. What told you? Why didn't your warning
bells go off and say this can't be right, This
is sending me down a different train track.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, because Terry, when you're at the bottom of a
horrible divorce and you know you've got kids and the
world is just not good for you at that point,
and you had a really low space, it's easy to
fall into something.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Like maybe self esteem is reduced.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Well, self esteem everything. You know, You've got your family
that could be mad at you, You've lost the possession
of the kids at least, you know, not living with you.
You've upset somebody that you were married to for a
long time. So yeah, it's if you care about people
in life, it's a tough time.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
So you take the pills.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Take the pills, and I love it, and then I
start down this road of the thing with opioids, especially
those people that have taken them. Once you take, what
happens next is you need more and more over time
to get the same buzz. And you know, to me,
(04:15):
the buzz was so wonderful. It really helped me. I
wouldn't say help me, but it really was at a
point in my life where I was at a low point.
And so taking the pills, taking more and more and more,
then your life becomes all you care about every day
is getting up and finding.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
More pills so you can sleep at night.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
No you can't. Oh, so I would take I'd get
up in the morning, take a Mike Mike's hard lemonade
on the way to work. By the end of the day,
I'd have fourteen hydro codone. Oh my god, and then
to sleep, I'd take a couple ambient Well that should
have killed me because a lot of people die, especially
(05:00):
younger people, when they've been out partying. They come home
and they want to go to sleep. They take a
downer like an ambient or something like that, and those
two shut the body down. So I should have died
taking fourteen hydrocodon and ambient together when I went to bed,
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I can do the math on that. That's a lot
of pills per year. Where in the world did those
come from?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Well, Terry, This was at a time into two thousands
where you could still get prescription pills. You could doctor
shop and there was a vibrant bunch of states that
didn't have rules about doctor shopping, so you could send
your medical records to Florida, there were other states, and
you could get prescriptions that way.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So they were real pills, and Florida would mail them
to or you went to Florida to get them.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Well both. Usually the doctor mailed them to you with
two refills, and you could take those to your local pharmacies.
But when the states started imposing the the Casper system.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
And that's a system where it says, this guy's already
had pills from doctor X, don't let doctor Y get
tricked into giving them another prescription.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Exactly when the states started working together, you couldn't go
to other states, and you couldn't go multiple doctors. So
that's why I feel so sorry for those today that
are addicted, because back then I might really be dead
because of the fentanyl that they're putting into these right,
fake pills or however they make them, these were all
(06:34):
real hydrocodone pills.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
There are a lot of people that I'm told will
go into other people's homes, like if they're a guest,
and go through looking for pills to take. I had
back surgery twenty years ago, and I had a few
people ask me, what are you gonna do with those
pills they gave you. I was like what, I was surprised.
There are people that I knew because I'm not much
(06:56):
of a medicine guy.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
You know, Terry, when you're addicted, you'll do anything to
get the pills. All your focus is every day is
finding the pills or finding the buzz.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Like I said, you look good today. So you you
fought your way through some tough stuff. What was rock bottom?
What sent you to finally put on the brakes and
go this is insanity?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well, I don't know if I hit rock bottom, or
if it was the deliverance of a dog. My second wife,
Denise wanted a dog. I didn't want one, but i'd
gone away for a weekend with some guys to Nolan Lake.
Came back and there was a dog. And I told Denise,
I said, I told you not to get a dog,
and she said, well, I've got one. I said, okay,
(07:41):
I get the name it. Then I'm going to call
the dog Booboo because it wasn't supposed to be here. Well,
little did I know that that dog would send, would
would send me, would would help me recover. The dog,
of course, needed to be walked, It needed love and
needed attention, and over time I was walking the dog
(08:04):
twice a day. I started getting in therapy, spent years
with that. But it was really that dog that got
me out exercising and loving again. And the dog became
so important to Denise and I through that whole recovery period.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Hold that thought. We're going to take a pause here,
and I want you to continue because this story becomes
even more amazing down the road. Tim Malone is in
the studio with me. He's written a book called Behind
the Veil, it's available everywhere. Tim Malone, Behind the Veil
an amazing story about a turnaround in life, and we've
(08:46):
only gotten through chapter one. Back in a few on
news Radio eight forty whas. Terry Miner's here at news
Radio eight forty WHS continuing my conversation with Tim Malone,
local guy who's written a book called Behind the Veil.
He's got a fascinating story. You weren't here on the
front end of it. Tim. Welcome. I'm glad to have
you here for a prolonged stay. Appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Thank you, Terry, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You spiraled through opioid addiction and some rough stuff in
your life, and you were going to great depths to
get pills and do all that. And I asked you
about rock Bottom, and you mentioned a dog came into
your life name you named Boo Boo. Your wife actually
suggested of you got a dog, and let's pick up
the story there. Okay, where were we?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
So I start recovering, find a good addiction doctor exercising
the dog, and also my daughter's tory Lauren and Page
recommended a meditation group that was in Saint Matthew's.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Did that seem weird to you.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Meditation seem weird, but for some reason I did it,
which you know as you read through the book Behind
the Veil, there's all these nudges that are adding up
to something bigger.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
But you'd been in such a horrific circumstance in life,
seeing your life slip away, you had to be willing
to look at some new avenue, try something to get
out of the malaise and the pain you're feeling well.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And you know, that's why I went, and that's why
I took the recommendation from my daughters. They knew I
was recovering and so they wanted to help. So they
recommended a wonderful person in Saint Matthew's name, Ronda Etherton,
who became very important to me over the next few years.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So you started listening. You weren't listening before if somebody said, hey,
those pills are no good for you, but now you're listening.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Well, I'm listening and I've kicked it so through the
addiction doctor and a therapist and really enjoying the meditation
and mindfulness that I'm learning.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
So instead of saying I need pills, you thought I
need meditation.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yes, yeah, it became an I teach for the Urban
League in a program that we teach mindfulness and meditation,
and that's what we speak to I tell them the
addiction and the pills are one thing, but I now
seek and love my meditation time for an hour every day.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
But there was a heck of a thing that's happened
to you. I mean, we're talking about apparitions orbs. Tell
me about that.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Well, So the biggest thing that happened next was and
for all the listeners who've ever lost the dog, my
dog Booboo was now fifteen and she was dying. And
for anybody that's lost the dog, it's even hard for
me now to talk about emotionally, how devastating that was,
(11:42):
this dog that had been with me through all this.
And so she passed. And that day I knew enough
through my class with meditation about orbs. I knew a
little bit about them. So I was so devastated, I
was crying. I asked the universe if they would let
(12:02):
my dogs stay in the yard in an ORB. That night,
I got my iPhone out I started taking pictures everywhere,
and then the next day I went to work, downloaded
the pictures from my phone, and I saw orbs. But
when I blew them up, I saw my dog in
(12:24):
the orbs. So I was very I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You saw an image of your dog reflected in this
light source.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, well yeah, an orb is a spirit emanation, and
it had the dog in the orb. Now sometimes it
was pixelated. Sometimes the dog's head was out of the
top or side. So in the book there are pictures,
and then on the website tim Alone behind the veil,
you'll see the color pictures of these orbs, but it's
my dog. You can see the brown hair, you can
(12:54):
see the resemblance. So that led me on this fascination
with orb and I was seeing my dog. So I
just kept taking pictures, I kept shooting video. I bought
a better camera, Canon T six, and I became fascinated
was seeing all these orbs and my dog. But one
(13:15):
evening about a year later, I was taking video and
I accidentally was shooting at a light source on the
back of a house a lot, you know, a porch light,
and I saw people and so I started shooting video
of this source and I saw people in it, I
(13:36):
saw animals, and I was really worried at that point
that I had crossed over and I had opened a portal,
possibly to the other side. Very scared, very worried, stopped
for a couple of weeks, didn't shoot anything else. But
ultimately what I found out is that these were angels,
These were animals, these were people, These were actually visions,
(13:59):
not visions. These the orb was projecting from the other
side behind the veil. So then I had tested. I
started meditating every day at three o'clock at a certain place,
and I would ask them. I would share consciousness with
the Holy ones, I call them, and I would ask
to see things. I would ask to see certain angels.
(14:20):
I would ask to see other entities, other things, other
things in history, and I would see those at night.
And so that led to the moment where I asked,
I said, well, why don't I see if I can
see the Blessed Mother Mary? And I asked if I
(14:43):
could see her that night in an orb. Well, right
after I meditate, I usually go to Kroger in Highlands,
and I walked in and I was back by the
cheese and the case where the baby formula is, and
there was a lady with beautiful dark hair, and she
(15:03):
was shoeless and the little boy was shoeless, and she
was beautiful. And she asked me if and she had
a cart and there was nothing in it. She asked
me if I could give her some money to buy formula,
and I said, well, here's twenty dollars. Well she said,
well it's one hundred and forty nine dollars. So I
(15:24):
gave her all I had and she looked at me
and she said, bless you, my son, and I started crying.
I left her, ran out to my car and got
my check book. Why I got a checkbook, I don't know.
I guess I was freaking out instead of the ATM.
Came back in and she was gone. And I have
(15:47):
a friend who was stocking shelves at the time, Dave,
and I asked him, Dave, if you've seen this lady?
And she was gone. So when I asked to see
the Blessed Mother, instead of showing up in the orbs,
she actually showed up in person at a Kroger. The
other interesting thing that happened, I started meditating at the areage.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
That's kind of big before you just go onto the
next thing.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Well, I don't want to take too much of your time.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I mean you're just segueing as though that was and
that happened. Well, that's huge. It was big. Well, so
this has to rattle you to your bone marrow. I mean,
you have to feel like amazing things are happening through
(16:38):
faith or meditation or whatever terminology you want to apply.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Well, I felt love. But the other thing I was
realizing is there was something else they wanted for me.
There was something else that they wanted me to do.
I didn't know what it was yet, and I would
find out, But there was something else other than just
showing me my and showing me things that they wanted
me to do. Especially, I started seeing the Blessed Mother
(17:07):
in the orbs, which we call our Lady of the Light,
is a mystic. So I was meditating back behind Saint Agnes.
They have twenty seven acres that the Passionist priest Stone,
there's the Earth and Spirit Center. So I would meditate there.
And one of the things that happened is one time
(17:28):
when I was coming up from down in the valley there,
I took an alternate path and there was a stand
of bushes right behind the church, twenty yards from the
very back of Saint Agnes, right on the road and
there was a stand of bushes and I looked inside
and there was a statue of the Blessed Mother totally
(17:50):
covered up. Brother Jerry cuts the grass, does the leaves?
I asked him, did you know that was there? He said, no,
Right in the middle of all the stuff behind Saint Agnes,
there's a statue of the Blessed Mother covered up. So
I had that uncovered and found out later that the
(18:11):
date I had it uncovered was the one hundreds of
year anniversary of the last vision at Fatima, the apparition
of the Blessed Mother. So that was enough. So all
these miracle things are kind of happening. And then I
started seeing other images and I figured out and also
I became pretty good at listening clairvoyantly to the Holy ones,
(18:37):
and I kind of figured out what they wanted from me,
and they wanted for you all, and what they were
concerned about. So what they're concerned about is they're worried
about our planet. There are a lot of people that
have fear. There's a lot of people that are scared
right now. There are a lot of people that are
worried about the future. And they want you to know
(18:58):
how much they love you, but they also wanted me
to write a book because the second part of the
book gives you information about how to meditate, how to
do things. The second part of the book is all
about giving you tools to deal with life, to deal
with Here's what happens when you die, to give you
(19:22):
hope and give you faith because people may wonder, well,
what happens when you die, and I'm scared of dying.
The book gives you what happens when you die. They
gave it all to me. They showed me all this
is on video. They showed me what happens. They showed
me the souls, the concern they have for souls, but
(19:42):
they have this giant concern for everybody on the planet
and the fear that's here, and they want to help.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Okay, you wrap that up nicely. I appreciate that your
book is called Behind the Veil. I know how tough
that was for you to have to just sort of
pour that out, but it had to be told in
order like that. So congratulations on this transformation you felt.
I mean, I mean, you could have stayed on the
(20:12):
path of drug abuse and who knows what would have
wound up. But here you are today and read it
in March forward. Just remind people be of service. We're
all here to be of service.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
We are Terry, and you know, to follow a spiritual
path doesn't mean you have to go off in a
monastery or you have to do this or that. Following
a spiritual path can be as easy as loving, as
caring for people, as taking their garbage can back for them,
being of service to old people, doing nice things for people.
(20:47):
Those are so thought of highly in the spirit world.
They love when people are doing those things.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Come outside of yourself and be of service to others.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
We have to end it there, Tim Malone, great meeting
you and talking with you.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Thank you, Terry, and thank you all your listeners.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Merry Christmas, Tim alone. The book's called Behind the Veil.
Back in a minute.
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