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March 24, 2025 • 18 mins
Rick Pitino's #2 seed St. John's Red Storm was expected to run right toward the Final Four the weekend after next.

One problem. John Calipari's unheralded Arkansas Razorbacks somehow beat Kansas and earned a matchup with Pitino's Johnnies.

Cal & Rick. No love. No mercy. No harm. No foul.

Incredible drama on many levels beyond basketball.

Arkansas advances to the Sweet 16. St. John's comes to a screeching halt, but with an NIL package that should restock the roster for next year.

Stay tuned.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Paul Miles, you tweeted over the weekend. I retweeted you.
You said, a special meeting of the university, a little
board of trustees, executive and compensation committee. All those other
words are The word compensation is the one that's got
everybody excited. This could be a whole lot of nothing
for all we know. We don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
I mean, the agenda, excuse me, doesn't go into great
details because they're going to go into executive session. It's
the UFL Board of Trustees, Compensation and Executive Committee. So
they're going to go into executive session to discuss personnel matters.
If they take action, they have to report it when
they come out of the meeting, gotcha. Okay, if they
don't take action, they don't have to say anything at all.

(00:38):
So it could be I've heard, you know, everybody speculating, well,
maybe it has something to do with Pat Kelsey in
his contract here. I've heard other people say, no, it
has nothing to do with athletics.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
So who knows. We'll find out. Okay, that's the four
thirty this afternoon. But obviously the news, if there's news
to be made, could take an hour or so. Yeah, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Like the Hayley van Lyft Cliff sharing in the new
You know, she was very kind to us exactly, and
we've been rough on her, I personally have been to
I thought I don't like her anymore. Yeah, she broke
my heart when she left, and now I like her again.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
She's okay. She was.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, she says, it's just you know, it's business. You
get out on the court, you compete. But she has
a lot of still has some connections.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
But a year ago when the brackets were announced, she
openly laughed when Louisville's name came up, and everybody's like, wow, dude,
we took care of you. She was at LSU at
the time and everybody was like, oh my, And so
it kind of went south from there. And now I'm
glad that reporters. It was a guy from the Fort
Worth News outlet that asked about it because he also

(01:40):
asked Walls about her. And that's good. We needed the
air to be cleared. She's a great ballplayer. We saw
that again. She was strong, but Louisville played great. D
Jada Curry for Louisville was unbelievable. She got forty two
points forty one. Yeah, I think that's a record program record.
It was a crazy how good she was in that game.

(02:03):
I also watched Kentucky's women. That finish was just heartbreaking overtime. Yeah,
it was an OT and it was Wildcats versus Wildcats
Kansas State, and Kentucky just was so good and it
was on their home floor, Memorial Coliseum, and then they
had a shot to win. Their star had the ball

(02:24):
with a couple of seconds left. Didn't they get three
shots to win? I think in the last second the
buzzer went off by the time the ball carraved off,
but their star clearly made a great move. Kentucky's made
a great move after the inbounds pass with only a
few seconds left in her down one point, and she

(02:44):
moves right over and then she's got like a five
footer and it just punk punk across the top of
the rim and over the side. It was like no.
So that was a tragedy.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
TCU had control of a lot of the game versus
Louisville early on. Louisville claude back in the second half,
but it was still a TCU And of course they're
playing in their home place too. That's tough for the
women's deal. Because you're you're up against the hostile crowd,
the host teams. That's a heck of an advantage.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Absolutely, it is.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Indeed, the UK game was like a heavyweight championship final.
The last five minutes. It was one would get ahead,
the other would come back with a big shot, the
other would get ahead, and oh it was it was good.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, Kentucky men, nice victory obviously over Illinois. And that's
the one that broke the twenty four million brackets that
were submitted to ESPN, there was one remaining correct bracket
and they picked Illinois. Oh how about that the last person. Wow,
twenty four million something brackets that were submitted to ESPN,

(03:48):
and then the final one is because they also picked Maryland.
They picked Arizona teams at Michigan State teams that were
that went on to win last night, but they were
wrong on Illinois. Kentucky take Illinois. Interesting. Whereas the old
kids say Illinois, it's like there's an eye at the
beginning of that word. Yes, we're going over to Illinois.
You mean Ellen, you mean missus Caliperry? What are you talking?

(04:10):
Did I say Caliperry? What a weekend he had? Oh mg,
let's think about let's just jump right to the important
part of this. When the Arkansas team gets to their
airplane and they shut the door, what do you think

(04:31):
that was?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Like?

Speaker 1 (04:32):
They're away from all reporters, all that business, you know,
because everybody does videos now in the locker room and
the dance and the throwing water and all that. But
once Cali Perry got on that plane with the Arkansas Razorbacks,
that must have been some kind of hooting nanny, I think.
So people act like it was, Oh, it's just another no.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
No.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
If you live here, you know that wasn't just another game,
you think Patino flew home with his team. He went
out to flew down to Cleveland, Yes, to be at
Richard's game. Okay, so he did not go home with
the team. He was in Providence. I don't know. Cleveland's
a short hop ricks surrounded by rich people with jets, Okay,
and cal Perry he's got Chicken Man. So on, Chicken

(05:13):
Man's got a lot of jets. That's Tyson Chicken. So
I'm sorry to even bring that up, but that's one
of the facts that comes into play when a coach
decides he's going to take a job somewhere. What's the
booster situation. Well, we've got a lot of fans. I
don't care about them. Who's got a jet? How many
people have jets that I can use to fly around

(05:35):
and do things? I mean, I'm sorry, but that's a reality.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Well, when water guy Mike Ropoli comes into town for Derby,
I'm gonna ask him good So your money was good,
but it was not that good to be.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
That's what the New York The New York Times headline
last week was, ken I'm paraphrasing, can a booster by
Saint John's a championship? That was the crux of them
message And the answer is not this time. Nope. So
I mean I've I've found all that fascinating.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
And what a lot of people are discussing now, of course,
is look at the team's remaining in the sweet sixteen.
The mid majors are all gone. You don't have that
Cinderella story. Is that NIL is going to front load
all the big players already and make it challenging for
a little school to work their way on Loyola Chicago
to work their way into this.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
But Kentucky's not an NIL giant, are they? Yeah, they're
in pretty good territory. Okay, I saw this stuff over
the weekend, two of them saying, and you never know
because it's online. Louisville's got eight to ten million to
work with for Pat Kelsey's next team. It's like, it
sounds like a lot. Where's that coming from. How many
people with Jets do we have around here? Right? And

(06:51):
Jets that they'll allow the basketball program to use. That's
just one of those little secrets that goes on. It's
just that how many times they're supporters who don't mind
the team hitting them up for that kind of stuff. Hey,
we need to fly and go see this guy in
Oregon when right now all our jett is for Yeah,
I need it now. God, we don't want to upset coach.

(07:13):
It's like, geez, we're talking about sweaty boys putting a
ball in a basket. Can we calm down a little bit.
Nobody's curing pediatric cancer. They're just putting a ball in
a hoop. But some people take that stuff like that
guy with Saint John's what's his name, Ripoli Micropoli? Did
he dump a lot of money into for them? Yes,

(07:34):
he's there's sugar Daddy He's the Saint John sugar daddy.
And that was the talk. Can the New York Times
writing a big piece? Can this booster buy a championship
for Saint both New York guys.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
I mean you got pat and O and Roppoli's from Queens,
So I mean then the New York Times loves that
kind of story.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, but back to Calipery. You know, it doesn't matter
what happens going forward. He got Rick again.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Again and wearing that jacket. You saw the jacket he
was wearing. It looked like Rick's tie.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
It was. It was like somebody stepped picture of Patino
back there in the back and then they went and
found a jacket.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Use it. I went back to like old Webb Sanders
of days, you know, Yeah, a checkered type thing.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
They must have laughed their behinds off on the Arkansas jet,
oh yeah, just flying out of there. That was that
was Providence, Rhode Island. Yeah yeah. And then uh, let
me look where they headed now.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Because they were the crowd was decidedly Saint John's being.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
New York media. They can't get enough of Rick Patino.
Oh my god, he's one of us. Rick Petino, That
god us New York, Spike Lee, it's always New York,
always regurgitates New York stuff and throws it onto the
rest of America where the flyover nobody's But when they
can amplify something that's New York connected, we're so great.

(09:06):
And now Crickets, you don't have to listen to that
this week, because they were gonna they were gonna amp
up that Saint John's pressure ten times more for the
next four days until their next game. They just love
New York stories cover they're there. It's just like the
same way we promote things here in Kentucky, Bourbon, you know,

(09:27):
horse racing, all the things we do because they're here
in our backyard. New York's got something that's growing in prominence.
You think Patino can get an imitation on Jimmy Fallon Show.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
This week, I'm going to know what's the nearest, what's
the nearest team to the northeast we have left Maryland.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Maybe it's about it. Yeah, because Yukon's out, I'm gonna
do a segment on that guy a little while because
what a jerk. Dan Hurley, the coach of Yukon. Oh yeah,
we all saw the video of him walking off the
floor and he's f word f bombing about the referees
and now is sports information. People are trying to get

(10:03):
that reporter to delete that video. It's like, dude, sorry,
horse out of the barn, and you don't bully people.
The guy took video, and they're saying he was in
an area where he didn't belong in.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
The news company in Charlotte, North Carolina said we stand
by our reporter, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Like that, that's right. I saw that on social media
and thought, no, that's just people making it up, and
then man, it's real. He's a jerk. He was at
Creighton remember, Oh yes, he was taunting the Creighton people.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Two rings. I've got two rings, like, calm down, what
are you in the fifth grade? Every time they put
the camera on him, he just looks like he's ready
to just, you know, tear into somebody.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Another thing. Luke Murray, Bill Murray's son. We loved Luke
because he worked here at Louisville with Chris Mack. Hurley's
walking out onto the floor in that ballgame and Luke's
trying to give him pertinent information. I don't know if
it's somebody's foul level whatever it is, but that's what
assistants are supposed to do. We go, we have one
time out. He's only he's got four fouls or whatever

(11:02):
he's saying. Hurley immediately goes shut up and then and
then continues his rant toward a refer everybody's showing that
clip online. That's Hurley. That's the real guy. He's under
pressure that his most trusted assistant coach is trying to
help him shut up. I mean that sounds like a
great place to work, right.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Oh goodness, where's his brothers? Is he the brother of
Bobby Hurley? Yes, same guy, Yes, who's not doing too well.
But I think he'll be back as coach at Arizona State.
I don't have a location on this Arkansas Texas Tech game.
It's Thursday night, ten oh nine on the grid. I'm looking,
so we'll have to see anyway. Good on Caliperi. I'm
happy for him because we all know what happened here.

(11:47):
It did get old. You know, he was using the
same phrasing. It was stale here. He's reborn. Mark Pope
is outstanding for Kentucky, everybody wins, but for Rick and
John Caliperi. We just all have to stand back. It's
like you're walking down a street and two dogs are
going at each other with a fence between and when

(12:11):
all we can do is witness it. But don't give
us that, Oh it's just a game. We're just two
Italian guys. And why does everybody say that we don't
like each other?

Speaker 1 (12:19):
They don't. I know them both well enough to tell
you they do not. And it was just this is
this is going to stick in Rick's krah more than
the loss of being in the toast of New York City.
Is that Caliperi got him again? Yep?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I mean you call this the most disappointing loss. I
don't know the tournament Rix won for superlatives all the time,
two big personalities there, you know. In the newscast speaking
of basketball, talking about ticket prices for up at Lucas
Oil Stadium, who do you guys, one reason the tickets
are going fast because of all the teams that are
playing there. Who do you think is going to have

(12:56):
more fans at this tournament at Lucas Oil In Indianapolis, Kentucky,
Tennessee or Purdue Those are three big fan bases in
this region.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
UK dominates everybody lou gets in. I believe in Kentucky
fans and they they're gonna there. There will be the loudest.
But this game, you know, we've talked about this more.
I know we're getting a little long on this segment, but
this winning three times is tough. And I read some
stat a little while ago, well seventy two percent of
the time doesn't matter. This is all stakes, and Rick

(13:27):
Barnes has underperformed in postseason play. I just I don't know,
like they say in a war zone sometimes I got
a bad feeling about this one. It's just it's set
up for, yeah, a Tennessee knockout punch. But we'll see. Anyway,
we'll get into that more a little bit later on

(13:48):
the show. Glad you are here, folks, We're coming right back.
You are on news radio waight forty whas all right,
Terry miners here. I am going to stick on a
basketball theme here since then everybody was just knee deep
in an all week, and didn't you feel like you
were just like in a stupot? Oh should we go
to church? I don't know. I gotta see this game
between curtain Rod States and mud Puddle. You it didn't

(14:12):
matter who was playing. It was like I took in
way too many games. I did not stay up for
the last one, the Arizona whatever it was last night,
because it's like, come on, man, come on, we're off
all day yesterday. Can you push those games down to
a more reasonable time considering the East Coast people aren't

(14:34):
gonna see the end of until twelve thirty in the morning.
And don't let anybody talk in anything else the rest
of this week. We're gonna go and yeah, we're gonna
go to the spring. Yeah, no we're not the answers,
No we're not. The games start actually Thursday night. Just see,
you'll be aware. It's an addiction. It's a problem we
have around here. People go to counsel and they go

(14:57):
through withdrawal. When the NCAA tournament is over, where is
the people up? You say the tournament? The opening game
on Thursday night is b YU versus Alabama. Now that's
Mark Pope's old team. So, as someone tweeted to me
a little while ago, it's like we're seeing an old
girlfriend b Yu in here. Caliperi still being ends like

(15:19):
an old boyfriend still hanging around in there. Pope's got
Kentucky obviously positioned to go into the sweet sixteen round.
Kevin Willard is still alive. He's one of Patino's guys.
Neither of the Patinos are there, but Kevin Willard, who's
part of the Patino coaching tree, is still alive. Richard
Patino's team lost last night to Michigan State. We'll get

(15:41):
into that a little bit because there's a little bit
of controversy about the people sitting near Rick Patino. I
mean what, he just draws attention, he just does. Yeah,
we'll get into that a little bit later on the show.
UK's game is Friday night, seven thirty nine PM. We'll
carry for you here on news radio eight forty whas
what pregame probably five o'clock or so, guys, that sound

(16:02):
about right now.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Let's see that's a seven thirty start, an hour and
a half to four five o'clock four will be Yeah,
normally at seven o'clock games, a four to thirty starts.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
It must be a five.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Five o'clock start for KSR pregame. Yes, I can do
that math and mine kid quite working today. The KSR
team was up there in Milwaukee. They made friends with
a charming employee of the hotel where they were staying.
She apparently hugs people when they come down to get
the free breakfast, the free Continental breakfast. First, you got
a hug, a net or whatever it is is that

(16:37):
in the commercial too.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Look, you get a hug when you get free breakfast.
They interviewed her on the show this morning. I retweeted
a little while ago, and she seems awfully sweet. But yeah,
we don't live in a world much anymore where people
touch each other anymore. People don't like that.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
I don't want to be part of the hashtag campaign
and lose my job. Matt Lower, Wait a minute, and anyway,
that's what happens. You go to for a free donut
or whatever it.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Is, you gotta hugging that first, Okay, all right, So anyway,
we'll talk more about these road trips coming up for teams,
and then of course Rick Patino's decision to not play
his star youch he's taking some heat for that one
at the end of that Saint John's Arkansas game. And Rick,

(17:23):
we've all seen it because we're used to it around here.
Rick can get a little aggressive in his answers because
he doesn't like the question. I mean, Patino's the guy
that said to another person here in this now, not me,
although he said similar things to me, you don't have
the basketball acumen to ask that question. We're like, what what,

(17:43):
what are we talking about? Pediatric surgery? What are you
talking about? It's a basketball again, sweaty boys putting a
ball in a hoop. Let's all calm down. Back in
a minute on news radio waight forty whas
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