July 2, 2025 • 21 mins
Former Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron visited WHAS Radio to discuss his support for President Donald Trump, the Big Beautiful Bill, and why voters should choose him over Rep. Andy Barr and businessman Nate Morris.
We discussed why he must stiff arm his former mentor Senator Mitch McConnell, why the BBB increase in debt is necessary, and how he handles race peddlers who call him a traitor to his own people.
We discussed why he must stiff arm his former mentor Senator Mitch McConnell, why the BBB increase in debt is necessary, and how he handles race peddlers who call him a traitor to his own people.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm saying hi to Daniel Cameron. He's just walking in
this to my friend Always, I was explaining how they
chase the neighborhood, chases Wimbledon away, the biggest money maker
they have in that part of London. But it's like, well,
eleven o'clock shut it down.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
You know what I've most been surprised by is John Cena,
the wrestler. Yeah, was at Wimbledon. He's he's, you know,
pretty dapper and uh you know, so he plays a
hill during the day on WWE and now he's like,
you know, looking, you know, quite suave. At the Wimbledon.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
He's also a big dude. And if you pay for
one of those little seats and he's next to you,
you're just up against his shoulder the whole time. That's
exactly right. It's great to see. It's been a while
since we've talked.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's so good to see you too.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Obviously, let's let people know that you were running for
the United States Senate.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I am running for the United States Senate. My wife
Mackenzie and I obviously pray to you know about the
decision to jump in. And we've got, you know, two
little boys Theodore's three now and Bennett's one, and we
want a country much like the one we grew up when,
based on merit and opportunity, not weaponized terms like d
and that's you know, I grew up in Etown and
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folks didn't care what I look like. They just cared
about merit. And you know, very fortunate to grow up
in Hardin County and Mackenzy grew up in Oldham County,
and so again, we would just want those same values
that most Kentuckians agree with across our one hundred and
twenty counties. We want to be able to represent that
United States Senate.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I hate to be in delicate, but it's about money
raising too. Yes, has that been a struggle. It's hard
to raise money, There's no question about that. And continue
to try to work hard to get a few dollars
in the door. And to those that are listening right now,
if you want to go to Cameron for Kentucky dot
com and give us a few dollars, we certainly appreciate that.
But you know it's I've been grateful and encouraged by
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the number of people that have given to the campaign,
and we're going to continue to work hard on that
front to bring a few dollars in the door. But
you know what, I've been most encouraged by the most
recent poll, having at forty four percent to Congressman Bars
eighteen percent. And so, look, I've built a relationship with
Kentuckians across our one hundred and twenty counties, and they've
gotten to know me and my family and know what
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I stand for. I've had four years of attorney Attorney
General standing up for the values of the men, women
and children of our one hundred and twenty counties and
trying to live up to and defend the rights of
our Constitution. And I think I did that fairly well.
And I would love to again be able to serve
in the United States Senate. I've seen pictures of you
in the White House standing next to President Trump. He
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endorsed you in a prior race. Clearly, there are now
three guys on a Republican side are in this race
that I'm aware of. You already referenced Congressman.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
There's actually another one too. There's a guy from named
Mike Ferris who's in the race too.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
There's okay, four of you. Yeah, I'm going to just
go ahead and say that Mike Ferris is probably not
going to get the Trump endorsement.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Who knows, you know, you know, he's from my hometown.
So I try to, you know, be delicate, you said, Indelegate,
I'm being delicate here.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
But you got that endorsement before, and really is that
critical for someone to bring it home and get this
seat that Mitch McConnell now occupies.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, I think, you know, obviously, President Trump is very
important to the Commonwealth, and I hope to garner his
support again. I've had it two times at this juncture.
So yeah, I think it's very important to have his endorsement. Obviously,
the most important endorsement is the voters of Kentucky, and
I feel very good in that regard and going to
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continue to you know, work across the state. I'll be
in Lexington tomorrow, I'll be at a parade tomorrow night.
I'll be at parades on July fourth. So we're trying
to get out to as many people as we possibly can.
You know, I think one of the things that we're
really focused on this time around is just making sure
that we're having as many touch points in communication with
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folks on the ground as we possibly can. And so
that's something that's obviously near and dear to my heart,
and I want to get around and chat with as
many people as like as possible, so that folks can
know my heart and know where I stand on the issues.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
President Trump obviously wants this big beautiful bill across the
finish line. They're wrestling over it right now in the
US House of Representatives. Does any of it give you pause?
You hear all the blowback from various people. There's the
component of medicaid, the border, the you know, the different
pieces that the no taxes on tips. Does any of
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this concern you? The added debts? Well, break it down
in any way you'd likee.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, Look, I you know, as an initial matter, you know,
we pre we as Kentuckians, the majority of Americans voted
for President Trump and for his agenda. It was one
based on law and order and putting more money in
the pockets of families all across this country and making
sure that we restored the some semblance of a trade
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balance with foreign allies. And so I wholeheartedly support the
President's a big beautiful bill and want to see it
get signed. Look, I know, you know in the in
the process of sausage making, if you will. There's always
some challenges there, but the President has laid out a
vision for this country. He is wanting to put more
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money in the pockets of people and you know, getting
away from taxes that are burdening families. And I fully
support him in that endeavor and would vote for the bill,
as many of the members of the Senate did. I
know Jade Vance had ultimately go for the tiebreaker, but yeah,
I certainly support the bill. And look again, there's nothing
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that's ever perfect, but I believe that this is a
part of ushering in the golden era, if you will,
for the United States.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
The junior senator from Kentucky Ran Paul deathly side stepped
voting for the bill and still plays golf with Donald Trump, and.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
He got invited to the picnic. So yes, you know,
just as important as well.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So his point, though, Rand, is is that it's this
adding to the debt and the deficit is just we
can't do it. It's a stack of cards that's going to collapse.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Look, you know, I do think that there were steps
made to address the debt, and you know, Rand Paul's
is right to talk about, you know, the debt, and
I think President Trump acknowledges that. I think Speaker Johnson
in the House, Leader Thuon in the Senate, both of
them understand the amount of debt that we have in
this country. But it won't be changed overnight. And as
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has been indicated by President Trump and his team and
by Leader Thune in the Senate and Speaker Johnson in
the House, we've got to make incremental changes in steps there.
And so I'm look, the bill that they came up
with is a strong bill that gives us the best
chance as Americans to see prosperity, and I would support
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the bill and support the President in making sure that
it gets past.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You have two young kids, as you've noted, and all
people say is, man, we're just loading these kids backs
with debt. So aren't you worried about ten years, twenty years,
whatever they're talking about ten years and so many more
trillion adding to it.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Look, yeah, look, I think that it's important the steps
that were made to make reductions in the debt. Again,
this is not something that's going to change overnight. We
certainly didn't get into this problem overnight, and so I look,
I understand as a parent of two, that we certainly
don't want to leave the next generation off worse off
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than we are. But I think overall, the Big Beautiful
Bill provides a lot of opportunities to bring economic prosperity
to our communities, and again, would certainly vote for it.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You already referenced polling numbers. We're speaking with Daniel Cameron.
By the way, if you jumped in the middle of
this and you referenced Congressman Andy Barr, who's running, you
said your numbers at forty four percent, he's at eighteen percent.
What differentiates you from the sitting Congressman bar Well?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I think people across the have gotten to know me,
and I've gotten to know my family. Look, I was
the first statewide elected office holder in Kentucky to endorse
President Trump for reelection and twenty I was. I did
it in early twenty twenty three. I mean, you can
go back and look at the tape and see. You know,
I was being peppered with questions when they did the
DJ raid at mar A Lago. I was asked within
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days of that, you know, are you still happy with
the President Trump's endorsement? I said, of course, grateful, for
his support, and I support the President. I was the
only one that was willing and courageous enough to take
that stand. I was honored to speak on his behalf
at the twenty twenty RNs convention when you know, others
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were walking away from the fight to take on Andy
Basheer when he was shutting down our churches. I went
in to court and got our churches reopened after nine
days when folks were protesting out in my front yard.
You know, I stood up and did what was right.
And those things aren't easy. I mean, I've had the
courage of conviction to do what's right time and time again.
And you know, look, you'll never have somebody, at least
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to my knowledge, you'll never have somebody in this race
that will say Daniel Cameron's not a conservative. That's not
been the critique. And so I feel very strongly that
when it comes to the Republican primary electorate and they're
looking for somebody that's going to stand up for their values,
it's going to support President Trump, going to ensure that
we promote our energy competitive advantage. That's a lot of
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what I talk about as well in the campaign trails,
that we've got to maintain our competitive advantage here in Kentucky.
That's coal and natural gas. I mean, we have low
cost and reliable energy. And so if you're thinking about
the industries of the future, if you're thinking about what
you know, whether it's AI capabilities, those things are going
to require energy, and we've got low cost from reliable energy.
And so I want to be a voice for ensuring
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that we get our body of the apple when it
comes to these emerging industries going forward.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You're not a green New deal guy, I know that, all.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Right, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Look, I mean clearly you I fought tooth and nail
to make sure that. In fact, I you know, you know,
as part of my time as AG was fighting against ESG,
was ensuring you know, to the extent folks wanted to
block or prohibit or blacklists coal and natural gas. I mean,
I've fought tooth and nail against that my day job.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Now.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I fight against ESG and DEI because I think they are,
you know, concepts that are meant to divide our country
and make our country weaker. And we need leadership in
the Senate that recognizes that and wants to do everything
we can to make Kentucky strong and to make our
country prospers.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You're black, and I'm sure you hear a lot of
that uncle Tom stuff out of people who say, if
you won't stand up for DEI, then you're just you're
cow telling to the white man. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Look, and when I first announced for the Senate or
I'm sorry for age in twenty nineteen, I mean within
days of announcing as a Republican, I was called an
uncle Tom. I've been called these names over the course
of you know, my political career, and even as you know,
you know, I tell people all the time. Look, I
grew up in a conservative household. It wasn't until I
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got to U of L that I realized, oh, there
are other people that don't vote Republican, so that you know,
that was that was like an epiphany to me. I
was like a so but yeah, I grew up a Republican.
I grew up a conservative. You know, I'm very you know,
that's just been my DNA and so, yeah, I get
called names and all sorts of stuff, but that hurtful. Well,
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at the end of the day, look, I you know,
we we talk about this a lot in my family
and you've heard me say this my identity is in Christ,
and so I I don't get people have perspectives and
they will say nasty things about you, and and that's
okay because my identity ultimately, at the end of the
day is in Christ, and I know I'm secure in him. Uh.
And so I can, you know, weather the storms of
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the language and all those sorts of things, because at
the end of the day, you know the victory has
been one. And so I you know you can you
can face the challenges that come with life and all
those sorts of things. And it's okay. Again, I'm going
to stand on principle and stand for what I believe
is right. And I think the majority of Kentucky's agree
with me.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You noted people were protesting in your yard. That was
over a lot of controversies involving LMPD, the shooting of
Breonna Taylor, your position as Attorney General in terms of
convictions or pressing for convictions against police officers. When you
reflect on that, now, would you have done anything differently? Anything?
You say, maybe I should have taken more time examining.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Now, Look, I'm grateful for the work that our office
did and for the career prosecutors that in prosecuted or
investigated that case. You know, the interesting thing here is
I just want to note for your listeners is that
you know, while BLM processors were on my front yard
and frankly we're protesting all over this state and this country,
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Nate Morris was actually writing statements empathizing with In fact,
he said, empathy is not enough. We need to stand
with them. What a like if I told you that
person was running in the Republican primary, you think I
was joking. But the fact of the matter is is
Nate Morris said that when he was in his position
at Rubicon. So while I was fighting against BLM, Nate
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Morris who was embracing BLM. So you know, I think,
you know, there are things that will ultimately come to
light during the course of this campaign that I think
are important for the Kentucky electorate to know about.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, there's also a campaign that's out there talking about
Nate Morris, who were just now mentioning for the first
time because we mentioned Congressman bar But they're saying he
instituted a radical DEI program in his company, created special
employee group for gay and transgender staff, forced employees to
take anti bias trending. Are those things bad?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Well, look, there's going to be all sorts of things that.
The biggest thing that I think when it comes to
Nate Morris is the level of hypocrisy. I mean, here's
a guy that you know, I Terry, You'll appreciate this.
There was this you know lady that got escorted off
a plane a few years ago. That's you know, something
to the effect of this person is not real or
Nate Morris is not real. I mean he is a
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figment of you know, the imagination. He came into some warehouse,
he came out of some warehouse, and you know, he's wealthy,
and he said, okay, these are the things that conservatives
want to hear. And the fact of the matter is
when he was at Rubicon, he put David Pluff, the
architect of President Obama's campaigns, on his board. He's done
all sorts of DEI stuff, He's embraced BLM. The list
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goes on and on. He gave to NICKI Haley during
the you know, presidential primaries, the primary in which President
Trump was in mind you. So the list goes on
and on. Things that are incongruent with who Nate Moore
says he is now and again, I think these are
all fair things for the electorate to know about, and
once they do know about it, they're very suspect of
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a person that all of a sudden came on the
scene roughly again a couple of months ago, to you know,
say that he is a conservative, which you know by
all accounts, I mean people know him. No, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You didn't mention his name when you said the polling
numbers he was.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Even lower.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Why even mention him then? Why even mentioned Why are
you mentioning him now?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I need to mention I need to mention everybody. I mean,
you know, Donald Trump mentioned everybody. I mean everybody, didn't
matter where they were in there.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
You're going to give him names? Uh?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Well no, I mean I have some names, but I'm not.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
You're not allowed to use that.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh yeah, you know, you know we tried not to.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I haven't. I've seen a few.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I have say I have names, But you know, at
the end of the day, it's about like facts, like
what what have these people done? What are they saying?
How is it inconsistent with where they are now? And
Nate Morris has got a lot of that a.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Couple more minutes here with Daniel Cameron. All right, you
just a couple of more thought we could go all day.
We could. You, of course, were partners with Mitch McConnell
in many ways, and when you had to launch your campaign,
you separated yourself from him. So did Andy Barr. Everybody
made comments. I don't know, and I know Nate Morris
has done that as well. That's kind of weird, isn't
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it when you have to walk on those eggshells of well,
I used to be buddied up with this person and
now I have to sever ties with them because of
their current status.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Well here, here's the thing is that I think it's
completely fair if you have a disagreement with somebody to
share what your disagreement is. I've said that. You know,
when it comes to votes in the United States Senate,
I would have voted for Pete Hegsef. I would have
vote voted for Tulca Gabbert, I would have voted for
RFK Junior. I mean, these are these are factual statements,
and I think that's completely fair. You know, Nate Morris, Look,
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he's he is going to make an entire campaign. He
I talked about him sort of, you know, figuring out
what he wanted to say when he got in this campaign,
Like you know, he's in a warehouse somewhere trying to
figure out, like, Okay, how am I going to speak
to the conservative electorate. And the best he could come
up with was to attack an eighty three year old man.
I mean, he's not focused on the future. And I
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think voters, Kentucky voters want someone who is going to
tell them how they are going to function as a
senator in the United States Senate. And I'm going to
be a senator that advances President Trump's agenda. I'm going
to be a senator that fights for our fossil fuels
industry or colon natural gas. I'm going to be a
senator that promotes opportunity and merit, and at every turn
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we'll fight against DEI and ESG. I'm going to be
a senator that looks out for the interest of your family,
and we need leadership in the Senate that's going to
do that. And I have a track record of standing
up for our values and want to continue to do
that in the United States Senate.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Are you still friends with Senator mcconnach and you go
have dinner with him or is it your job to
stay away from him until his primary is over?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Well, look, I you know, it's hard to even you know,
find time to have dinner with my wife and so like, No, look,
I don't have dinner with Senator McConnell or you know,
any of the McConnell team. I mean that's you know,
I'm trying to have family dinner with my kids and
mackenzie and so that's the focus of you know, particular
during a campaign season. But yeah, no, I don't have
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dinner with sinner mccallgue.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Okay, last thing for Governor Andy Basheer is very upset
obviously about this potential big beautiful bill Medicaid cuts changes
that could close thirty five rural hospitals as the message.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Can we talk about Andy Basheer? Did you know he
has weaponized his Ethics Commission against me? Literally right now,
I've got to you know, they filed an ethics suit
against me, which is completely absurd. I had refunded the
money I recused from the case. But yet the Andy Basheer,
I mean, you talk about like Trump being having the
Department of Justice weaponized against him when Joe Biden was
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in office. Andy Basheer's weaponized the Ethics Commission against me
right now. Of course, we're fighting at tooth and nail,
and you know, feel very strongly about our position.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But why does he care about you? Now?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, the Democrats, will you know, anybody that they fear
they want to try to take out, And you know,
much in the same way that Joe Biden had weaponized
the dj against President Trump. I mean, here is Andy Basheer,
is Ethics Commission. I'm a political opponent. It's being weaponized
against me. Uh And so look, I you know Andy
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Basheer and the Ethics Commission, and you know, now he's
trying to feign ignorance when it comes to giving money
to illegal aliens subsidizing their education while Americans are having
to pay more for education here in Kentucky. Look the
list and list goes on and on of liberal sort
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of giveaways that Andy Basheer is trying to provide to
illegal aliens. And I think it's wrong, and I'm glad
that the Trump administration has ultimately come into file suit
against Andy Basheer.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Do you think it's a personal vendetta against the sitting
governor here in Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
What is that he I think he's got. Oh yes,
I think he's got a personal vendetta against me. I
mean his Ethics Commission. Again. He claims that he doesn't
control it, but he does, even in legal filings. Right now,
he's got documents out there saying he controls the Ethics
Commission U. And this is the most absurd case that
could ever be brought. And I'm fighting it because I
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continue to believe that I need to fight on behalf
of the Kentuckians and the citizens of our commonwealth. And
you know, I look, I had protesters on my front lawne.
I've had all sorts of things said about me. But
at the end of the day, I know my child
of God, and so I'm going to defend and work
hard and always be on the offensive and never take
and never take a step back. And I think it's
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telling that neither Nate Morris or Andy Barr have said
anything because I think they're afraid and uh, you know,
or are not willing to come out and speak against
a sitting governor.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Well we'll stop here and then it's great to see
you again and talk with you again, being always good
to see you. Let's do it again. Something great to
see you. Daniel Cameron, he's a candidate for Senate.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
What's your website, Cameron for Kentucky dot com and uh,
we'll take any donations, would be grateful. Thank you so much,
God bless you.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Back in a minute on news radio eight forty w
H A s H.
I'm saying hi to Daniel Cameron. He's just walking in
this to my friend Always, I was explaining how they
chase the neighborhood, chases Wimbledon away, the biggest money maker
they have in that part of London. But it's like, well,
eleven o'clock shut it down.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
You know what I've most been surprised by is John Cena,
the wrestler. Yeah, was at Wimbledon. He's he's, you know,
pretty dapper and uh you know, so he plays a
hill during the day on WWE and now he's like,
you know, looking, you know, quite suave. At the Wimbledon.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
He's also a big dude. And if you pay for
one of those little seats and he's next to you,
you're just up against his shoulder the whole time. That's
exactly right. It's great to see. It's been a while
since we've talked.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's so good to see you too.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Obviously, let's let people know that you were running for
the United States Senate.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I am running for the United States Senate. My wife
Mackenzie and I obviously pray to you know about the
decision to jump in. And we've got, you know, two
little boys Theodore's three now and Bennett's one, and we
want a country much like the one we grew up when,
based on merit and opportunity, not weaponized terms like d
and that's you know, I grew up in Etown and
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folks didn't care what I look like. They just cared
about merit. And you know, very fortunate to grow up
in Hardin County and Mackenzy grew up in Oldham County,
and so again, we would just want those same values
that most Kentuckians agree with across our one hundred and
twenty counties. We want to be able to represent that
United States Senate.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I hate to be in delicate, but it's about money
raising too. Yes, has that been a struggle. It's hard
to raise money, There's no question about that. And continue
to try to work hard to get a few dollars
in the door. And to those that are listening right now,
if you want to go to Cameron for Kentucky dot
com and give us a few dollars, we certainly appreciate that.
But you know it's I've been grateful and encouraged by
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the number of people that have given to the campaign,
and we're going to continue to work hard on that
front to bring a few dollars in the door. But
you know what, I've been most encouraged by the most
recent poll, having at forty four percent to Congressman Bars
eighteen percent. And so, look, I've built a relationship with
Kentuckians across our one hundred and twenty counties, and they've
gotten to know me and my family and know what
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I stand for. I've had four years of attorney Attorney
General standing up for the values of the men, women
and children of our one hundred and twenty counties and
trying to live up to and defend the rights of
our Constitution. And I think I did that fairly well.
And I would love to again be able to serve
in the United States Senate. I've seen pictures of you
in the White House standing next to President Trump. He
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endorsed you in a prior race. Clearly, there are now
three guys on a Republican side are in this race
that I'm aware of. You already referenced Congressman.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
There's actually another one too. There's a guy from named
Mike Ferris who's in the race too.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
There's okay, four of you. Yeah, I'm going to just
go ahead and say that Mike Ferris is probably not
going to get the Trump endorsement.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Who knows, you know, you know, he's from my hometown.
So I try to, you know, be delicate, you said, Indelegate,
I'm being delicate here.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
But you got that endorsement before, and really is that
critical for someone to bring it home and get this
seat that Mitch McConnell now occupies.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, I think, you know, obviously, President Trump is very
important to the Commonwealth, and I hope to garner his
support again. I've had it two times at this juncture.
So yeah, I think it's very important to have his endorsement. Obviously,
the most important endorsement is the voters of Kentucky, and
I feel very good in that regard and going to
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continue to you know, work across the state. I'll be
in Lexington tomorrow, I'll be at a parade tomorrow night.
I'll be at parades on July fourth. So we're trying
to get out to as many people as we possibly can.
You know, I think one of the things that we're
really focused on this time around is just making sure
that we're having as many touch points in communication with
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folks on the ground as we possibly can. And so
that's something that's obviously near and dear to my heart,
and I want to get around and chat with as
many people as like as possible, so that folks can
know my heart and know where I stand on the issues.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
President Trump obviously wants this big beautiful bill across the
finish line. They're wrestling over it right now in the
US House of Representatives. Does any of it give you pause?
You hear all the blowback from various people. There's the
component of medicaid, the border, the you know, the different
pieces that the no taxes on tips. Does any of
(04:25):
this concern you? The added debts? Well, break it down
in any way you'd likee.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, Look, I you know, as an initial matter, you know,
we pre we as Kentuckians, the majority of Americans voted
for President Trump and for his agenda. It was one
based on law and order and putting more money in
the pockets of families all across this country and making
sure that we restored the some semblance of a trade
(04:51):
balance with foreign allies. And so I wholeheartedly support the
President's a big beautiful bill and want to see it
get signed. Look, I know, you know in the in
the process of sausage making, if you will. There's always
some challenges there, but the President has laid out a
vision for this country. He is wanting to put more
(05:13):
money in the pockets of people and you know, getting
away from taxes that are burdening families. And I fully
support him in that endeavor and would vote for the bill,
as many of the members of the Senate did. I
know Jade Vance had ultimately go for the tiebreaker, but yeah,
I certainly support the bill. And look again, there's nothing
(05:35):
that's ever perfect, but I believe that this is a
part of ushering in the golden era, if you will,
for the United States.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
The junior senator from Kentucky Ran Paul deathly side stepped
voting for the bill and still plays golf with Donald Trump, and.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
He got invited to the picnic. So yes, you know,
just as important as well.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So his point, though, Rand, is is that it's this
adding to the debt and the deficit is just we
can't do it. It's a stack of cards that's going to collapse.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Look, you know, I do think that there were steps
made to address the debt, and you know, Rand Paul's
is right to talk about, you know, the debt, and
I think President Trump acknowledges that. I think Speaker Johnson
in the House, Leader Thuon in the Senate, both of
them understand the amount of debt that we have in
this country. But it won't be changed overnight. And as
(06:27):
has been indicated by President Trump and his team and
by Leader Thune in the Senate and Speaker Johnson in
the House, we've got to make incremental changes in steps there.
And so I'm look, the bill that they came up
with is a strong bill that gives us the best
chance as Americans to see prosperity, and I would support
(06:49):
the bill and support the President in making sure that
it gets past.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You have two young kids, as you've noted, and all
people say is, man, we're just loading these kids backs
with debt. So aren't you worried about ten years, twenty years,
whatever they're talking about ten years and so many more
trillion adding to it.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Look, yeah, look, I think that it's important the steps
that were made to make reductions in the debt. Again,
this is not something that's going to change overnight. We
certainly didn't get into this problem overnight, and so I look,
I understand as a parent of two, that we certainly
don't want to leave the next generation off worse off
(07:28):
than we are. But I think overall, the Big Beautiful
Bill provides a lot of opportunities to bring economic prosperity
to our communities, and again, would certainly vote for it.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You already referenced polling numbers. We're speaking with Daniel Cameron.
By the way, if you jumped in the middle of
this and you referenced Congressman Andy Barr, who's running, you
said your numbers at forty four percent, he's at eighteen percent.
What differentiates you from the sitting Congressman bar Well?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I think people across the have gotten to know me,
and I've gotten to know my family. Look, I was
the first statewide elected office holder in Kentucky to endorse
President Trump for reelection and twenty I was. I did
it in early twenty twenty three. I mean, you can
go back and look at the tape and see. You know,
I was being peppered with questions when they did the
DJ raid at mar A Lago. I was asked within
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days of that, you know, are you still happy with
the President Trump's endorsement? I said, of course, grateful, for
his support, and I support the President. I was the
only one that was willing and courageous enough to take
that stand. I was honored to speak on his behalf
at the twenty twenty RNs convention when you know, others
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were walking away from the fight to take on Andy
Basheer when he was shutting down our churches. I went
in to court and got our churches reopened after nine
days when folks were protesting out in my front yard.
You know, I stood up and did what was right.
And those things aren't easy. I mean, I've had the
courage of conviction to do what's right time and time again.
And you know, look, you'll never have somebody, at least
(09:05):
to my knowledge, you'll never have somebody in this race
that will say Daniel Cameron's not a conservative. That's not
been the critique. And so I feel very strongly that
when it comes to the Republican primary electorate and they're
looking for somebody that's going to stand up for their values,
it's going to support President Trump, going to ensure that
we promote our energy competitive advantage. That's a lot of
(09:27):
what I talk about as well in the campaign trails,
that we've got to maintain our competitive advantage here in Kentucky.
That's coal and natural gas. I mean, we have low
cost and reliable energy. And so if you're thinking about
the industries of the future, if you're thinking about what
you know, whether it's AI capabilities, those things are going
to require energy, and we've got low cost from reliable energy.
And so I want to be a voice for ensuring
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that we get our body of the apple when it
comes to these emerging industries going forward.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You're not a green New deal guy, I know that, all.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Right, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Look, I mean clearly you I fought tooth and nail
to make sure that. In fact, I you know, you know,
as part of my time as AG was fighting against ESG,
was ensuring you know, to the extent folks wanted to
block or prohibit or blacklists coal and natural gas. I mean,
I've fought tooth and nail against that my day job.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Now.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I fight against ESG and DEI because I think they are,
you know, concepts that are meant to divide our country
and make our country weaker. And we need leadership in
the Senate that recognizes that and wants to do everything
we can to make Kentucky strong and to make our
country prospers.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You're black, and I'm sure you hear a lot of
that uncle Tom stuff out of people who say, if
you won't stand up for DEI, then you're just you're
cow telling to the white man. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Look, and when I first announced for the Senate or
I'm sorry for age in twenty nineteen, I mean within
days of announcing as a Republican, I was called an
uncle Tom. I've been called these names over the course
of you know, my political career, and even as you know,
you know, I tell people all the time. Look, I
grew up in a conservative household. It wasn't until I
(11:08):
got to U of L that I realized, oh, there
are other people that don't vote Republican, so that you know,
that was that was like an epiphany to me. I
was like a so but yeah, I grew up a Republican.
I grew up a conservative. You know, I'm very you know,
that's just been my DNA and so, yeah, I get
called names and all sorts of stuff, but that hurtful. Well,
(11:28):
at the end of the day, look, I you know,
we we talk about this a lot in my family
and you've heard me say this my identity is in Christ,
and so I I don't get people have perspectives and
they will say nasty things about you, and and that's
okay because my identity ultimately, at the end of the
day is in Christ, and I know I'm secure in him. Uh.
And so I can, you know, weather the storms of
(11:49):
the language and all those sorts of things, because at
the end of the day, you know the victory has
been one. And so I you know you can you
can face the challenges that come with life and all
those sorts of things. And it's okay. Again, I'm going
to stand on principle and stand for what I believe
is right. And I think the majority of Kentucky's agree
with me.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You noted people were protesting in your yard. That was
over a lot of controversies involving LMPD, the shooting of
Breonna Taylor, your position as Attorney General in terms of
convictions or pressing for convictions against police officers. When you
reflect on that, now, would you have done anything differently? Anything?
You say, maybe I should have taken more time examining.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Now, Look, I'm grateful for the work that our office
did and for the career prosecutors that in prosecuted or
investigated that case. You know, the interesting thing here is
I just want to note for your listeners is that
you know, while BLM processors were on my front yard
and frankly we're protesting all over this state and this country,
(12:49):
Nate Morris was actually writing statements empathizing with In fact,
he said, empathy is not enough. We need to stand
with them. What a like if I told you that
person was running in the Republican primary, you think I
was joking. But the fact of the matter is is
Nate Morris said that when he was in his position
at Rubicon. So while I was fighting against BLM, Nate
(13:12):
Morris who was embracing BLM. So you know, I think,
you know, there are things that will ultimately come to
light during the course of this campaign that I think
are important for the Kentucky electorate to know about.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, there's also a campaign that's out there talking about
Nate Morris, who were just now mentioning for the first
time because we mentioned Congressman bar But they're saying he
instituted a radical DEI program in his company, created special
employee group for gay and transgender staff, forced employees to
take anti bias trending. Are those things bad?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Well, look, there's going to be all sorts of things that.
The biggest thing that I think when it comes to
Nate Morris is the level of hypocrisy. I mean, here's
a guy that you know, I Terry, You'll appreciate this.
There was this you know lady that got escorted off
a plane a few years ago. That's you know, something
to the effect of this person is not real or
Nate Morris is not real. I mean he is a
(14:05):
figment of you know, the imagination. He came into some warehouse,
he came out of some warehouse, and you know, he's wealthy,
and he said, okay, these are the things that conservatives
want to hear. And the fact of the matter is
when he was at Rubicon, he put David Pluff, the
architect of President Obama's campaigns, on his board. He's done
all sorts of DEI stuff, He's embraced BLM. The list
(14:29):
goes on and on. He gave to NICKI Haley during
the you know, presidential primaries, the primary in which President
Trump was in mind you. So the list goes on
and on. Things that are incongruent with who Nate Moore
says he is now and again, I think these are
all fair things for the electorate to know about, and
once they do know about it, they're very suspect of
(14:49):
a person that all of a sudden came on the
scene roughly again a couple of months ago, to you know,
say that he is a conservative, which you know by
all accounts, I mean people know him. No, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You didn't mention his name when you said the polling
numbers he was.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Even lower.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Why even mention him then? Why even mentioned Why are
you mentioning him now?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I need to mention I need to mention everybody. I mean,
you know, Donald Trump mentioned everybody. I mean everybody, didn't
matter where they were in there.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
You're going to give him names? Uh?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Well no, I mean I have some names, but I'm not.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
You're not allowed to use that.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh yeah, you know, you know we tried not to.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I haven't. I've seen a few.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I have say I have names, But you know, at
the end of the day, it's about like facts, like
what what have these people done? What are they saying?
How is it inconsistent with where they are now? And
Nate Morris has got a lot of that a.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Couple more minutes here with Daniel Cameron. All right, you
just a couple of more thought we could go all day.
We could. You, of course, were partners with Mitch McConnell
in many ways, and when you had to launch your campaign,
you separated yourself from him. So did Andy Barr. Everybody
made comments. I don't know, and I know Nate Morris
has done that as well. That's kind of weird, isn't
(16:01):
it when you have to walk on those eggshells of well,
I used to be buddied up with this person and
now I have to sever ties with them because of
their current status.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Well here, here's the thing is that I think it's
completely fair if you have a disagreement with somebody to
share what your disagreement is. I've said that. You know,
when it comes to votes in the United States Senate,
I would have voted for Pete Hegsef. I would have
vote voted for Tulca Gabbert, I would have voted for
RFK Junior. I mean, these are these are factual statements,
and I think that's completely fair. You know, Nate Morris, Look,
(16:33):
he's he is going to make an entire campaign. He
I talked about him sort of, you know, figuring out
what he wanted to say when he got in this campaign,
Like you know, he's in a warehouse somewhere trying to
figure out, like, Okay, how am I going to speak
to the conservative electorate. And the best he could come
up with was to attack an eighty three year old man.
I mean, he's not focused on the future. And I
(16:55):
think voters, Kentucky voters want someone who is going to
tell them how they are going to function as a
senator in the United States Senate. And I'm going to
be a senator that advances President Trump's agenda. I'm going
to be a senator that fights for our fossil fuels
industry or colon natural gas. I'm going to be a
senator that promotes opportunity and merit, and at every turn
(17:19):
we'll fight against DEI and ESG. I'm going to be
a senator that looks out for the interest of your family,
and we need leadership in the Senate that's going to
do that. And I have a track record of standing
up for our values and want to continue to do
that in the United States Senate.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Are you still friends with Senator mcconnach and you go
have dinner with him or is it your job to
stay away from him until his primary is over?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Well, look, I you know, it's hard to even you know,
find time to have dinner with my wife and so like, No, look,
I don't have dinner with Senator McConnell or you know,
any of the McConnell team. I mean that's you know,
I'm trying to have family dinner with my kids and
mackenzie and so that's the focus of you know, particular
during a campaign season. But yeah, no, I don't have
(18:02):
dinner with sinner mccallgue.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Okay, last thing for Governor Andy Basheer is very upset
obviously about this potential big beautiful bill Medicaid cuts changes
that could close thirty five rural hospitals as the message.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Can we talk about Andy Basheer? Did you know he
has weaponized his Ethics Commission against me? Literally right now,
I've got to you know, they filed an ethics suit
against me, which is completely absurd. I had refunded the
money I recused from the case. But yet the Andy Basheer,
I mean, you talk about like Trump being having the
Department of Justice weaponized against him when Joe Biden was
(18:34):
in office. Andy Basheer's weaponized the Ethics Commission against me
right now. Of course, we're fighting at tooth and nail,
and you know, feel very strongly about our position.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But why does he care about you? Now?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, the Democrats, will you know, anybody that they fear
they want to try to take out, And you know,
much in the same way that Joe Biden had weaponized
the dj against President Trump. I mean, here is Andy Basheer,
is Ethics Commission. I'm a political opponent. It's being weaponized
against me. Uh And so look, I you know Andy
(19:06):
Basheer and the Ethics Commission, and you know, now he's
trying to feign ignorance when it comes to giving money
to illegal aliens subsidizing their education while Americans are having
to pay more for education here in Kentucky. Look the
list and list goes on and on of liberal sort
(19:29):
of giveaways that Andy Basheer is trying to provide to
illegal aliens. And I think it's wrong, and I'm glad
that the Trump administration has ultimately come into file suit
against Andy Basheer.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Do you think it's a personal vendetta against the sitting
governor here in Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
What is that he I think he's got. Oh yes,
I think he's got a personal vendetta against me. I
mean his Ethics Commission. Again. He claims that he doesn't
control it, but he does, even in legal filings. Right now,
he's got documents out there saying he controls the Ethics
Commission U. And this is the most absurd case that
could ever be brought. And I'm fighting it because I
(20:06):
continue to believe that I need to fight on behalf
of the Kentuckians and the citizens of our commonwealth. And
you know, I look, I had protesters on my front lawne.
I've had all sorts of things said about me. But
at the end of the day, I know my child
of God, and so I'm going to defend and work
hard and always be on the offensive and never take
and never take a step back. And I think it's
(20:26):
telling that neither Nate Morris or Andy Barr have said
anything because I think they're afraid and uh, you know,
or are not willing to come out and speak against
a sitting governor.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Well we'll stop here and then it's great to see
you again and talk with you again, being always good
to see you. Let's do it again. Something great to
see you. Daniel Cameron, he's a candidate for Senate.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
What's your website, Cameron for Kentucky dot com and uh,
we'll take any donations, would be grateful. Thank you so much,
God bless you.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
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