August 21, 2025 • 12 mins
It's always a delight speaking with former Louisville Mayor Harvey Sloane. He once walked a thousane miles around Kentucky to shake voter hands and learn from the people of various areas of need.
Dr. Sloane is back in Louisville for a SAVE MEDICAID and MEDICARE RALLY this Saturday, August 23rd at 9 AM in Jefferson Square Park.
He digs into his projections of what could happen to the poorest Kentuckians if the Big, Beautiful, Bill from the Trump Administration is enforced.
Dr. Sloane is back in Louisville for a SAVE MEDICAID and MEDICARE RALLY this Saturday, August 23rd at 9 AM in Jefferson Square Park.
He digs into his projections of what could happen to the poorest Kentuckians if the Big, Beautiful, Bill from the Trump Administration is enforced.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mister mayor. Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hey Terry, it's great to hear you finally. It's been
a long time.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I know. I like when we get to sit in
the same room together. But maybe I'll get to see
you this weekend. How is everything, How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm doing well. I'm scratching ninety. But as my friend
Mike Ward says, have Kane am able, So I've got
a king, but I'm able.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Oh that is awesome. Now, Yeah, you were a walker,
I know, because that was even in your jingle that
you walked door to door and all that. But were
you a runner as well? Didn't you run somewhere?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah? I was a runner. I started the mini marathons.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
That was your deal with the derby. With the derby, Yeah,
so you you and a bunch of guys decided you
would run a half marathon thirteen point one miles. Yeah,
and what was your time back in those days? You
have any idea how fast you were running?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I tell you, I don't remember. I did after that,
I walked the state one thousand miles.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Oh my goodness, that.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Was the long one, I'll tell you, Terry. But we
made it and it was a wonderful experience talking to
everybody on the way.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
That's exactly right. Yeah. The you know, you get out
and you shake hands and you meet people and they
have different stories to tell in all one hundred and
twenty Kentucky County.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You bet. I went up to one guy and Eastern
Kentucky was on the porch there rock and I said, Hi,
I'm a Harvey Swan, I'm running for governor. And he
paused a moment. He says, well, I'm for Jesus. I said, well,
I'm for him too, sir, but he's not in this election.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Oh fantastic, Yeah, man, it was.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Those were great days, Terry. I'll never forget them.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And let me tell you. My whole families coming down
for this gallop on Saturday, and I hope you guys
could come too.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yes, we've been invited. I appreciate that. I know that.
You have a rally Saturday morning at nine at Jefferson's
Square Park, the Fight for Medicaid and Medicare Rally. Let's
discuss because of the what was called big beautiful builder
changes coming and we know and you, as a physician
and a man who held office, would be a good
(02:28):
overseer of what the ramifications are in play right now,
so please tell us.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Okay, I'm just going to preface by saying I've been
fighting for affordable healthcare all my life. I wrote Jimmy
Carter's National Health Insurance platform when I was mayor. Afterwards,
they asked me to join the Committee of A one hundred,
(02:55):
which was the old Wall for ruther Uaw committee, and
he died in a plane crash, and we had a
bill and I testified on that bill. It was Teddy
Kennedy's bill, and you know, we did our part as
much as we could. When I ran against mister McConnell,
(03:17):
a big, big issue for me was a national health insurance.
Of course I didn't and dear myself to the medical
Society and other kinds, but anyway, we fought for a
long time and now the battle is the ultimate. What's
(03:38):
gonna happen. You know, just in Jefferson County there are
two hundred thousand people on Medicaid. That's a lot of people,
and they're going to be largely cut because the overall
Medicaid bill that's been reduced in the House and Center
(04:00):
on a big beautiful bill is almost a trillion dollars now, Terry,
that's more than walking around money.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, i'd say so. I will tell you, mister Mayor.
I've had various members of Congress on here, Brett Guthrie
for instance, come in and I said, what is happening.
Who's being paired off of these rolls? And he said,
it's only people who are able bodied, and they're not
taking care of children, they're not taking care of their parents.
But we want them to opt back into the workforce,
(04:28):
and there's no reason for them to be on Medicaid.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Terry, that's just not true. And I won't go into
calling people names and stuff. There are people on medicaid
to they're working, they have families, they have children that
are not getting step the nutrition program wick has been stopped.
(04:58):
Let me just back a couple of minutes. Nineteen sixty four,
I joined President Kennedy's Appellation program. We were based in
many of the great communities of eastern Kentucky, Inez at
that time, the poorest white county in the white county
in the country. We were up at Hazard and Pike, Illinois. Anyway,
(05:24):
this was started in sixty four and we would examine
these folks and there was no way of paying for
them to get care because Medicaid had not come in.
It took Lyndon Johnson. And I know people have problems
with him, but he did. He was one of the
(05:45):
great presidents for me because he brought in Medicaid, Medicare.
He brought in the first civil Rights Act in a century.
He brought the next year the Vote Rights Act in
nineteen sixty six. A little story Terry. It was a
(06:09):
very tight situation and Republicans were basically against it, and
Lyndon Johnson asked the chairman of the Republican Party to
come and do his office. And he came in and
he looked him in the eye, and he was from Illinois,
(06:34):
and he said, sir, you know, if we passed this thing,
there will be only this ever, Dirkson. There would only
ever be two people that'll ever remember in Illinois, Abraham
Lincoln and you that hit the button and passed to
(06:55):
Lyndon himself. You know, God, can you imagine he passed
several first civil rights during an election for guy's sakes.
Absolutely incredible, And that that moment between JFK's death and
when the war started, the Vietnam War, he got so
(07:18):
much done it was just terrific. So that's where we
got started and went on from there, and that's why
I looked to to get the community. The Park of
All Lived Health Center started because Johnson had in the
poverty program, he had these neighborhood health centers. Uh, they
(07:42):
had comprehensive services. They had dental services, rehab and pediatrics
and emergency medical, et cetera. And they had patients covered
with Medicaid and some other federal funding. And that just
seemed to me the end of you know, it was
(08:05):
just a moment of just glory to see that, and
so we worked. I came to Louisville because I was
from Washington. I still that's my beloved city. It's now
getting pounded with troops and everything. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Well, I don't have to ask you. I don't have
to ask you about that. I already gave your opinion
on that. I got it. We got to watch our
time on here.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
The other thing about the Medicaid is that people say
that we had to amp it up for the COVID pandemic,
and now all that's being done is made is an
adjustment to move it back to the levels where it
was prior to COVID. How do you answer that.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
That's just not true people. You know, the Park of
Ole Neighbordale Center was talking to the director this morning.
They've stopped taking for the last three years six thousand
patients on Medicaid because they can't service them. You know,
(09:08):
it's less than what the cost is. They have to
sort of holder water for other patients. So you know,
it's not like gold is being handed out. These are basic,
basic things and we've got to save it. This will
be let me just end, this will be the largest
(09:32):
transfer of wealth from low income to high income people
that we've ever seen in our country ever, and it's
going to cause disasters consequences, not only in direct medical care,
but tearing they're tearing into research. They have taken a
(09:57):
lot of money from nih you know, and God knows
this country is is really known for the advanced research.
We've been able to give.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
The world no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And that's going to just another little thing I was
reading in the New York Times. They're now well over
five hundred thousand people who have metastatic answer. It means
it's it's not only in the primary site, but it's
(10:34):
it's gone to delivery.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Of you know, fantastic and.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
They've now been able through incredible pharmaceuticals and techniques to
save over five years about half a million people that
would have died. Now, that's great, but it's cost money,
and if you don't have money, you can't say people.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It makes sense, all right, So we're running out of time,
mister mayor. I'm gonna have to tell people where you
are so they can see you Saturday morning at nine
o'clock at Jefferson Square.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Nine o'clock at the Jefferson Square.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yes, sir, you will be there, Morgan McGarvey, I see
former Mayor Abramson and former Mayor Fisher are also on
the bill.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, right, and then all other people who are going
to testify about what will happen. Okay, I mean this,
this drastic cut will not take effect until after the
mid terms. But we've got to know what's going to
happen so we can fight it, and I'm prepared to
(11:41):
fight it.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Harvey's loan. Great talking to you, mister mayor. I know
a lot of folks are looking forward to seeing you
on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Good good Terry. I hope I see.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
You, you bet you all right, it's the fight for
Medicaid and Medicare rally. And then as former mayor and
physician Harvey Sloan, also Congressman Morgan McGarvey many others will
be there or Saturday morning, nine o'clock Jefferson Square Park.
I'm closing with your jingle, Harvey, Are you ready? Huh yeah,
here we go, just and net you walk along with
(12:14):
Harvey Sloan, Walk along with Harvey Sloan. There you go.
Great talking to you.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
That was along the hundred of the one thousand mile
walk across the state I remember, which I will never
forget and always enjoyed. All right, So see you there.
Thanks for letting me on for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Great talking to you. That is Louisville.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
And come come to the gallop, you bet you.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
That is Louisville Mayor Harvey Sloan from the nineteen seventies.
Back in a few on news radio eight forty wh
S
Mister mayor. Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hey Terry, it's great to hear you finally. It's been
a long time.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I know. I like when we get to sit in
the same room together. But maybe I'll get to see
you this weekend. How is everything, How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm doing well. I'm scratching ninety. But as my friend
Mike Ward says, have Kane am able, So I've got
a king, but I'm able.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Oh that is awesome. Now, Yeah, you were a walker,
I know, because that was even in your jingle that
you walked door to door and all that. But were
you a runner as well? Didn't you run somewhere?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah? I was a runner. I started the mini marathons.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
That was your deal with the derby. With the derby, Yeah,
so you you and a bunch of guys decided you
would run a half marathon thirteen point one miles. Yeah,
and what was your time back in those days? You
have any idea how fast you were running?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I tell you, I don't remember. I did after that,
I walked the state one thousand miles.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Oh my goodness, that.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Was the long one, I'll tell you, Terry. But we
made it and it was a wonderful experience talking to
everybody on the way.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
That's exactly right. Yeah. The you know, you get out
and you shake hands and you meet people and they
have different stories to tell in all one hundred and
twenty Kentucky County.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You bet. I went up to one guy and Eastern
Kentucky was on the porch there rock and I said, Hi,
I'm a Harvey Swan, I'm running for governor. And he
paused a moment. He says, well, I'm for Jesus. I said, well,
I'm for him too, sir, but he's not in this election.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Oh fantastic, Yeah, man, it was.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Those were great days, Terry. I'll never forget them.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And let me tell you. My whole families coming down
for this gallop on Saturday, and I hope you guys
could come too.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yes, we've been invited. I appreciate that. I know that.
You have a rally Saturday morning at nine at Jefferson's
Square Park, the Fight for Medicaid and Medicare Rally. Let's
discuss because of the what was called big beautiful builder
changes coming and we know and you, as a physician
and a man who held office, would be a good
(02:28):
overseer of what the ramifications are in play right now,
so please tell us.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Okay, I'm just going to preface by saying I've been
fighting for affordable healthcare all my life. I wrote Jimmy
Carter's National Health Insurance platform when I was mayor. Afterwards,
they asked me to join the Committee of A one hundred,
(02:55):
which was the old Wall for ruther Uaw committee, and
he died in a plane crash, and we had a
bill and I testified on that bill. It was Teddy
Kennedy's bill, and you know, we did our part as
much as we could. When I ran against mister McConnell,
(03:17):
a big, big issue for me was a national health insurance.
Of course I didn't and dear myself to the medical
Society and other kinds, but anyway, we fought for a
long time and now the battle is the ultimate. What's
(03:38):
gonna happen. You know, just in Jefferson County there are
two hundred thousand people on Medicaid. That's a lot of people,
and they're going to be largely cut because the overall
Medicaid bill that's been reduced in the House and Center
(04:00):
on a big beautiful bill is almost a trillion dollars now, Terry,
that's more than walking around money.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, i'd say so. I will tell you, mister Mayor.
I've had various members of Congress on here, Brett Guthrie
for instance, come in and I said, what is happening.
Who's being paired off of these rolls? And he said,
it's only people who are able bodied, and they're not
taking care of children, they're not taking care of their parents.
But we want them to opt back into the workforce,
(04:28):
and there's no reason for them to be on Medicaid.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Terry, that's just not true. And I won't go into
calling people names and stuff. There are people on medicaid
to they're working, they have families, they have children that
are not getting step the nutrition program wick has been stopped.
(04:58):
Let me just back a couple of minutes. Nineteen sixty four,
I joined President Kennedy's Appellation program. We were based in
many of the great communities of eastern Kentucky, Inez at
that time, the poorest white county in the white county
in the country. We were up at Hazard and Pike, Illinois. Anyway,
(05:24):
this was started in sixty four and we would examine
these folks and there was no way of paying for
them to get care because Medicaid had not come in.
It took Lyndon Johnson. And I know people have problems
with him, but he did. He was one of the
(05:45):
great presidents for me because he brought in Medicaid, Medicare.
He brought in the first civil Rights Act in a century.
He brought the next year the Vote Rights Act in
nineteen sixty six. A little story Terry. It was a
(06:09):
very tight situation and Republicans were basically against it, and
Lyndon Johnson asked the chairman of the Republican Party to
come and do his office. And he came in and
he looked him in the eye, and he was from Illinois,
(06:34):
and he said, sir, you know, if we passed this thing,
there will be only this ever, Dirkson. There would only
ever be two people that'll ever remember in Illinois, Abraham
Lincoln and you that hit the button and passed to
(06:55):
Lyndon himself. You know, God, can you imagine he passed
several first civil rights during an election for guy's sakes.
Absolutely incredible, And that that moment between JFK's death and
when the war started, the Vietnam War, he got so
(07:18):
much done it was just terrific. So that's where we
got started and went on from there, and that's why
I looked to to get the community. The Park of
All Lived Health Center started because Johnson had in the
poverty program, he had these neighborhood health centers. Uh, they
(07:42):
had comprehensive services. They had dental services, rehab and pediatrics
and emergency medical, et cetera. And they had patients covered
with Medicaid and some other federal funding. And that just
seemed to me the end of you know, it was
(08:05):
just a moment of just glory to see that, and
so we worked. I came to Louisville because I was
from Washington. I still that's my beloved city. It's now
getting pounded with troops and everything. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Well, I don't have to ask you. I don't have
to ask you about that. I already gave your opinion
on that. I got it. We got to watch our
time on here.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
The other thing about the Medicaid is that people say
that we had to amp it up for the COVID pandemic,
and now all that's being done is made is an
adjustment to move it back to the levels where it
was prior to COVID. How do you answer that.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
That's just not true people. You know, the Park of
Ole Neighbordale Center was talking to the director this morning.
They've stopped taking for the last three years six thousand
patients on Medicaid because they can't service them. You know,
(09:08):
it's less than what the cost is. They have to
sort of holder water for other patients. So you know,
it's not like gold is being handed out. These are basic,
basic things and we've got to save it. This will
be let me just end, this will be the largest
(09:32):
transfer of wealth from low income to high income people
that we've ever seen in our country ever, and it's
going to cause disasters consequences, not only in direct medical care,
but tearing they're tearing into research. They have taken a
(09:57):
lot of money from nih you know, and God knows
this country is is really known for the advanced research.
We've been able to give.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
The world no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And that's going to just another little thing I was
reading in the New York Times. They're now well over
five hundred thousand people who have metastatic answer. It means
it's it's not only in the primary site, but it's
(10:34):
it's gone to delivery.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Of you know, fantastic and.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
They've now been able through incredible pharmaceuticals and techniques to
save over five years about half a million people that
would have died. Now, that's great, but it's cost money,
and if you don't have money, you can't say people.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It makes sense, all right, So we're running out of time,
mister mayor. I'm gonna have to tell people where you
are so they can see you Saturday morning at nine
o'clock at Jefferson Square.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Nine o'clock at the Jefferson Square.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yes, sir, you will be there, Morgan McGarvey, I see
former Mayor Abramson and former Mayor Fisher are also on
the bill.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, right, and then all other people who are going
to testify about what will happen. Okay, I mean this,
this drastic cut will not take effect until after the
mid terms. But we've got to know what's going to
happen so we can fight it, and I'm prepared to
(11:41):
fight it.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Harvey's loan. Great talking to you, mister mayor. I know
a lot of folks are looking forward to seeing you
on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Good good Terry. I hope I see.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
You, you bet you all right, it's the fight for
Medicaid and Medicare rally. And then as former mayor and
physician Harvey Sloan, also Congressman Morgan McGarvey many others will
be there or Saturday morning, nine o'clock Jefferson Square Park.
I'm closing with your jingle, Harvey, Are you ready? Huh yeah,
here we go, just and net you walk along with
(12:14):
Harvey Sloan, Walk along with Harvey Sloan. There you go.
Great talking to you.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
That was along the hundred of the one thousand mile
walk across the state I remember, which I will never
forget and always enjoyed. All right, So see you there.
Thanks for letting me on for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Great talking to you. That is Louisville.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
And come come to the gallop, you bet you.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
That is Louisville Mayor Harvey Sloan from the nineteen seventies.
Back in a few on news radio eight forty wh
S
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