Dr. Henry Sadlo with Chris Morris and Gary McGruder on heart health and halls of fame

Dr. Henry Sadlo, celebrating a birthday today, joined Woodford Reserve master distiller emeritus Chris Morris and America's favorite farmer Gary McGruder to discuss a wide variety of honors and healthy lifestyle advice.

Happy birthday, Hank!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, brother Miles, thank you the news. I got it, doctor, doctor,
And that's Henry said low. It's his birthday. Happy birthday,
best friend. Thanks. Terry's great to be here. It's always
good to see you. We've been best buddy since we're
little kids, and we've been through all our birthdays together,
except you were away at medical school for a while.

(00:21):
So yeah, your dad and I hung around anyway, and
we would call you in torment. You. That's right. You
were his best friend during those eight years I was
down at Emory. That's true. He got in the airplaning
me a whole bunch of times, and he told people
jokes he and Bella's stories. I know you're shocked to
hear that, but he would occasionally lengthen a story. He
occasually would I'm trying to avoid inheriting that, but I

(00:42):
may have inherited a bit of that. Wasn't your dad's
birthday yesterday? Yes? It was the fourteenth, and my wife
had a pre my birthday, which is today. We were
day apart. She had a wonderful, nice dinner at home.
Caring had nice dinner for us and some guests last night.
So I started off a day before with a great deal.
I always think of birthday should be celebrated over the

(01:04):
course of the whole week. Look, you brought in some
of our buddies with us too, Chris Morris, Master Distiller
Woodford Reserve now Master Distiller Emeritis. Great to see you,
my friend. Thank you, Terry. I'm glad to see him
celebrating with you too, I think so. Yes, Well, you
know we got to mention the special award that he's
getting tomorrow in Bartstown. Oh yeah, I know all about that.

(01:24):
I'm excited and I'm proud of that. Chris, our Saint
X brother. We have another st X brother here too,
who's not picking up any awards today, but who knows.
The day's not over yet. Gary McGruder, good to see you.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Good to see you. Half a century.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Friend, that's right. We all rolled through our fiftieth and
Chris yours is next year, that's right. So you are
going to come rolling in with more awards, aren't you?
Going into two halls of fame in the next few weeks.
It's hard to believe, Terry.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
But tomorrow, as Henry mentioned, I'm getting the bourbon industry's
highest award, which I'm so proud of the Parker Beam
Lifetime Achievement Award, followed next month with the Santex Hall
of Honors.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, stay on top, I thr like the sat next
song doesn't get sung on the station off and enough? Well, congratulations,
thank you. The bourbon industry's highest honor.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yes, it's named after the late Parker Beam, who was
one of the icons with with Jimmy Russell and Elmer
t Lee and my mentor Lincoln Henderson, those master distillers
who kept the industry alive in the dark days of
the seventies, eighties and early nineties before the Bourbon Renaissance began.

(02:38):
And it's certainly a great tribute to him. And what's
really interesting, his son, Parker Beam is going to go
into the Hall of Fame tomorrow, so I will have
the great honor of being with his son, Craigbeam. Excellent
when I'm awarded with Parker Beams.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
So is this Hall of Fame a place that people
visit in Barnstown it's a like a tourist attraction.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Unfortunately, No, and then we're working on that. It's it's
it's the Hall of Fame, just like you would think
in terms of a Canton or or Major League Baseball,
but there's no physical place to visit yet and we're
working on that.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
That's astounding that we haven't figured that out yet here
in the Commonwealth.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I know it's it's a shame, but remember or keep
in mind that it wasn't too long ago where the
bourbon industry was a sin industry and we did not
have the support of Kentuckians or Frankfurt that we do today.
Now we're the signature industry industry for the Commonwealth. So

(03:39):
we've gone from from yeah, being sin riah is to
being all there is.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
So do you think some of your predecessors are like
chased away from churches gooy center demon.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I could tell you some stories about that. But the
point is now we have the ability and opportunity as
we see we hear coming into downtown Louisville just on
the hills of Bourbon and Beyond. All the people that
were here in Louisville downtown levelle this weekend primarily here
because of Bourbon and Beyond, which is a great partnership

(04:16):
between music and our industry. But Bourbon is bringing people
to Louisville. Bourbon is bringing people to Kentucky. Why aren't
we celebrating that even more? We are, of course, well,
we were talking earlier. The Young Center is trying to
reimagine what they're going to do in the next fifteen years.
It's coming up on his fifteenth birthday, and we're like,
you need to make that another bourbon stuff. Somehow figure

(04:37):
that out one way or another. Here the phraser is,
I guess considered the launching post has been the trailhead
of the Kentucky Bourbon Trail, and there's so many people
that come here because of the Bourbon Trail. It's like,
this would be great. So let's get our Hall of
Fame in arts down are somewhere somewhere, because certainly we
know that Louisville is where most of the.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Now Chris, every time you go to a party, let's
say Henry sad Love is having a party, do people
come over to you and say, taste this, mister master,
and is still taste this?

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well, it's very kind, but people do want my opinion
and do want to talk about bourbon whiskey. And then
sometimes they'll apologize, We're sorry we're talking work, but you
know it's it's it's a fun story. It's a fun conversation.
So I'm always happy to entertain discussions about bourbon whiskey.
But of course I'm going to tell them if it's
not Old Forester or wood Reserve, forget it.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
That's right. And Chris, Chris gets a multiple requests from
Gary mcgirder next to me and myself to sign bottles
for our friends at Christmas. I think you've been the
recipient of a few. Indeed, but Chris let us Gary
and Henry on a tour through Woodford Reserve. I thought
was astounding. It was just fascinating. The whole story is,
you know, is a library named after Chris? Up there, Chris,

(05:56):
what's the name of the library? Up the Chris Morris Library.
There you go. I sat and creative. I had a
sip in there in that room. That was very nice.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
But as Chris says that his induction in the Hall
of Fame tomorrow will be about Bill Samuels, his mentor
and his a good friend of us, good friend of ours. Yes,
another distiller you know Maker's Market. Bill and him have
been close and Bill is doing the introduction tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yes, So how did you go from Saint X High
School to master distiller at Brown Foreman.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Well, the fun story is I was still a senior
at Saint X when I started working at the Old
Forster Distillery as an eighteen year old, which is as
early as you can go to work in the industry.
You have to be twenty one to drink, but you
can begin your employment at eighteen. So I went right
from the halls of Saint X into the Old Forster
Distillery because that's where my dad worked.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Uh huh. You had no idea you're going to make
it to the master distillers, had no clue what was
going to hap. You just show up and do the
best you can and let life take you where it goes.
And it's this famous world. What I've told you this before.
Mary and I got off a ship at the Rock
of Gibraltar. We're doing that Mediterranean cruise. We go in

(07:13):
to a store there's Woodford and it was less expensive
there than it was here. I was like, well, that's interesting.
I love a bottle that because we took it back
on the ship so we can make our own drinks.
Here we go. It's all good. Well, you know we're
talking about Hall of Fame. When I was driving down here.
I heard you talking to a guy who should be
in the Weatherman Hall of Fame, Jay Cardosi. That's right.

(07:34):
I use him every weekend for our weekend hiking group.
If the weather's going to be iffy, I'll get the
data from Jay, and he never steers me wrong. So Jay,
here's to you. He brags on your weightlifting prowess. It's unbelievable.
We'll do I mean, what did you do do? You
sent me a video once? Were you lifting today? I'm
getting old, so not what I used to. But just
two hundred and fifty two and fifty Crest and Gary.

(07:57):
Now another Hall of Fame comment. The guy who spotted
me today is University of Louisville, Jim Lafountain, our first
baseball All American. When you got to Patterson Field, his
picture is the first picture in center field, and he
came in town from Utica, New York to see his
son JT and the family, so he was kind enough

(08:18):
to come over there and spot me. That's cool. Yeah,
it was fun, all right, doctor said Low. I know
you just recently retired and you're not working every day
like you were, but let's remind people about saving a
few lives. With a coronary coronary calciums game, Yes, sir,
why that's so important and that you could do it

(08:38):
quickly and it gives you a gauge right away of
where you are, right yeah. In fact, all four of
us in this room have had at least one or more.
And so what it is. It won't tell you if
you're going to have a heart attack tonight or next week,
but it will tell you over the course of years
whether you're very low risk, low risk, moderate risk, or

(08:59):
high risk. Once you define how much plaque you have
and you're in a risk group, then your doctor can
do things like tell you to eat better, tell you
lose some weight, tell you to exercise more, get you
on a statin, and then even more importantly, you know
that you've got coronary disease. Hardening of the arteries is
the unofficial term for it, so that if you have

(09:21):
any symptoms in the chest, you won't be a dummy
that sits at home and ignores it like one of
our mutual friends who may or may not be on
the radio in the morning. That's what he did, and
he did. He regrets that he did that, you know,
but he got lucky and you're talking about like a
tingling in your arm or well, you know, most of

(09:42):
the classic symptom is a heavy pressure in the middle
of your chest that comes on while you're doing something
cutting grass, working in the yard, and you sit down
and it goes away. That's called angina. One of my
friends had that walking up nine flights of stairs many
years ago, and that led to him getting bypassed surgery.
But women in particular may have atypical symptoms and they

(10:05):
just may have a funny feeling and they, as you
say it, maybe have a tingling down the left arm,
left jaw. Sometimes it's just shortness of breath. Sometimes people
with coronary artery disease. I had one patient. His only
symptom was he just felt fatigued, fatigued and tired. He
didn't know why, and when his calcium score was in

(10:25):
the three thousand category, that led to hardcaf in a
couple stints. So, and it's Stanton by the way, as
a pill, isn't it. Yes, it's a cholesterol medicine. The
first one came out in nineteen eighty eight and for
many people that helped really helps reduce your risk. It
can remove some soft plaque. Two types of plaque, hard plack,
soft plaque. You can remove some of the soft plaque.

(10:47):
How do you get a coronary calcium scan? Well, what
we want people to do is go to their primary
care provider and then have the primary care order one
at their local hospital or there's some outlying centers that
do it, and then if you get a zero, you
smile and consider one in five years. And if you
get a high score, they send you to a cardiologist.

(11:08):
So anyway, good to know. Coronary calcium scan. It's an
important phrase to latch onto. Chris Morris, congratulations on your
Hall of Fame. Thank you Arry and your upcoming Saint
Ex Hall of Honors. That's fantastic. Magruder somebody one of
our mutual friends. I sent him a picture of you
sitting in here, and he said, a face only a

(11:28):
mother and his pet goat could love. How many goats
do you have?

Speaker 2 (11:33):
None at the moment, I'm just a popelic monster.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
That's all you were going to say. They were delicious.
He does live close to the goat man public Monstery.
He's got some stories about that. Doctor Sadlow. You're the best.
Thanks brother, I love you man, I love you too. Yeah,
thanks for being the best. In nineteen sixty three, boom,
there we go. We met for little bit of kids.
Been besties since. Oh yes, and one last thing I

(11:58):
was gonna you were nice enough to introduce my dad
to coach John Wooden at UP Saint Louis. Saint Louis
a KMOX radio And I have some little souvenir things
that you might put on Facebook later. But the one
quote that John Wooden had, he had a calendar of quotes,
three hundred and sixty five quotes, one for every day,
but on my birthday in twenty eleven, it says, and

(12:19):
listen to this. This is powerful. John Wooden says, you
can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone
who will never be able to repay you. And I
will say that's Terry Miners when he goes on crusade
for children, and these two gentlemen here do a lot
of things for charity, and God bless them. Well what
you do too. You're always working to help people with

(12:41):
their health, so we appreciate you leading all those walks
around places you do. You have more friends than we
the people and Terry those people are keeping me Healthy.
Happy birthday, Henry, Happy Birthday, Gentlemen. Back in a minute
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