Dr. Wilfred Reilly, Assistant Professor of Political Sciences at Kentucky State University, discusses in continuted strife between pro-Jewish and pro-Arab groups on campus acorss the country, the impact of fatherlessness on today's youth, the "nice" Democrats doing not-so-nice things (just like Republicans), and what will be the driving issues in the presidential election...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Doctor Wilfred Riley isn't a political scientist, Political Sciences, Academic Affairs,
School of Criminal Justice and Government Relations at Kentucky State University.
Welcome back. It's good to have you back on Yeah,
good to be here. I enjoy all your stuff on Twitter.
I know you comment on various shows and do all that.
(00:21):
So let's start with the last year's college year, just
in general across America. Professor, do you think it's going
to be as tumultuous this fall as it was last
year with the pro Palestine protests and then the blockage
of Jewish students moving around campuses? Or you think that's
kind of eased up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
No, I think the pro Palestine students and the Jewish
students will be back to fist fighting and countermarching and
so on, because the war is still going on. I mean,
there's actually a pretty famous paper that looks at ebbs
and flows and call it rioting about fifteen years ago,
and they found that deans and campus cops and so
on try to take a lot of credit for this happening.
(01:04):
But the real, the real reason it happens is that
just summer and Christmas come around, so No, I think
you'll see a lot of the same thing in a
lot of states, probably less in Kentucky than in most places.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, it just seems like it was starting to lose
its momentum, you know, with all the hunger strike ridiculousness,
and you'd see these kids and think, you're not hungry,
you know, and they were. They were, they were. That
was all just semantics. They weren't really denying themselves anything.
They were just trying to make a statement. So I
don't see as much evidence of that, but we'll see
(01:36):
what happens here in the coming weeks.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Well, people get bored, I mean I don't. I don't
think the average person at a fraternity house in UK
or Ulu or ks you really spend most of their
time thinking about the heroic struggle of you know, the
idf versus hamas on either side. It's a way to
meet girls and explain that you're not a political idiot,
and you know, so on on the line, and you know,
(02:01):
eventually you get tired of it and you don't like
sleeping in a tent anymore and you go home. Yeah,
that's something a lot of people did in college. That's
pretty politically active in college. I still have an Occupy
mask somewhere at home.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Did I forgot all about that movement? Is that how
you met women.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Twelve years ago? Well, I think yeah, to some extent,
I mean people. Yeah, it's any social scene is a
good place to meet members of the opposite sex and
passive bottle o whisky around and talk about things. I
don't think campus protesting is good, but I don't see
dramatically more brawling there than I do it. You know,
(02:35):
football game between two old rivals, Illinois and Michigan, And
you know, I understand that campuses need to shut a
lot of this stuff down. I think they were right
to prevent some of the worst anti semitism. When you
look at stuff like occupy, where people are just chanting
about how the rich have too much money, I think
that's something you've probably seen and where students gather for
a thousand years. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
How do you feel now, twelve years later though about
your occupied stance back then versus the reality of being
twelve years older and wiser to the ways of the world.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I think they're two things. First, I think that young people,
when they look at movements like Christianity or moderate socialism,
are absolutely right that the world could be better. I
think that's correct. People could behave better when it comes
to finances and sexuality, and so I'm like, that's true.
I also think that they don't understand very simple things
that adults do understand, Like right now, I have a
(03:29):
pretty good income in the government already does take forty
percent of my income and taxes, like we already do
have tax policy, it already does hit the rich harder,
and then the government wastes the money. So I don't
think young people practically understand that, And that's why a
slogan like tax the rich just irritates their dad so much.
So I think there are two things like, yes, we
(03:50):
could have a much better world, but two, we've already
tried the things that college radicals want to try. Why
don't we make the police not kill people? So I
think that there's a lot to be said for growing
up and going into business or going into policing and
learning well, we already did that, and the problem isn't
(04:10):
what you think it is, and trying to solve the
issue that actually exists. I mean, the problem with the
crime in inner city black and poor white communities is
not racism, or something like that, it's mostly fatherlessness. Like
I discovered a lot of things like that when I
became an actual leader over the past fifteen twenty years.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Indeed, you take a lot of heat sometimes too as
a black man. You take heat from people who say
you're turning your back on your own community. To say
that's fatherlessness and not just baked in white supremacy.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Well, I mean, actually most of the people that take
heat from w be sort of blue haired white liberals.
I mean, if you go to a Black Baptist church
which is going to be about as well funded as
a white one in Kentucky, and you say men need
to take care of their kids, I mean you're not
necessarily going to have that much of a backlash. KSU
I mean has some financial problems. There is the top
two hundred collegence of black institutions, So I mean, I
(05:04):
think that there is a lot of excuse making in
the black community. But I also think there's a lot
of recognition of these points. And I think the hardest
denial of these points that I've seen comes from people
of all races who are sort of pure political activists
and who want to use these problems to kind of
indict the USA, like, look at all these poor people,
(05:24):
We need communism, And the reality is that there are
a lot of things that would work much better to
solve the problem of long term poverty than socialism. Like
teaching job skills to poor people comes to mind, you know,
teaching marriage so that you'd have two people in a
household and stead of one and they wouldn't be poor anymore.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Fascinating how that works the basics.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And multiply twenty nine thousand dollars by two and then
he had a middle class household is crazy in math.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You're political sciences guy in so you see how things
are shaping up with the newly formed presidential ticket on
the day Democrats side and the messaging that's going on.
Was it smart for Kamala Harris's team to just jump
on and just say, hey, yeah, no tax on tips,
even though Trump had already proposed that. Is that a
(06:13):
good way to blur what the campaign is about.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, I mean they just stole that directly from Trump.
I mean, yeah, it's a good, ruthless move. I think
that the Democrats get a lot more credit for being
nice than they deserve because the Democrats are seen as
the nice, pleasant party and the Republicans are the tough
crew cut dads, and that allows the Democrats to do
tough crew cut dad things that no one notices. So
(06:39):
I mean like Barack Obama jokingly called himself the deporter
in chief and was actually about as good on an
illegal immigration as Trump. I mean, only five million illegal
immigrants entered the country under Obama I think that's eight years,
and he sent most of them back. So when he
was asked about that, he would just smile and say
things like, we welcome people with all backgrounds to this country,
and they would just keep deporting people. I mean, similarly,
(07:01):
which by the way, I support, and similarly with Kamala Harris.
I mean, Trump had a great plan about no taxes
on certain kinds of tipped incomes, certain kinds of business
bonus income. Kamala Harris took the entire plan, did one
Democrat thing which has put an upper end cup on
cap on business bonus income, and just called it the
Harris Plan. Yeah. I think that's a great way to
(07:21):
blow the lines between the campaigns. It's also a pretty
savage thing to do. But it's not like Kamala Harris
and Donald Trump owe each other anything. If I were
Trump smart young guys, I would look through Harris's plans
to see if there's anything on prison reform or something
I could take good point.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I suspect there'll be more stealing back and forth between
now and then. But to these these other issues like
abortion rights, and you know, there are multiple things that
bubble up that seem to coalesce women. And is that
going to be a driving element you think overall in
this election or will it just come down to how
(07:57):
much you're paying for groceries?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Well, I think women are going to be a problem
zone for Trump. I mean, so Trump is a big,
tough New York business guy, and he's running with another
former business ceo who's a former marine, who's facing the
attack that he's a little bit weird, although I don't
think that's really fair at all. Trump has also been
(08:23):
found liable, although not guilty, in a public sex case
involving a woman, and Trump is seen as being anti
choice on abortion. Now interestingly, Trump is to the left
of me on abortion. Trump actually put a pro choice
plank in the Republican Party platform, but that's not what's
perceived as being Trump's position. The majority of people associate
(08:44):
Trump with the repeal of Roe v. Wade, with the
Dobbs decision. I mean, in a number of states, Kentucky,
you essentially can't get an abortion. People are traveling for
that procedure. So when you actually pull women on Trump,
I mean, I think Trump is at like forty four
percent among white women right now, so that's going to
be an issue. Like Trump's campaign has to make ads
targeting women that literally feature kitchen tables where he's sort
(09:08):
of saying, like, sure, there are these issues out there.
You know, they drive past the clinic on the way
home or something, But what's the cost of groceries? You know,
is your son or daughter going to be able to
get into college? Give an Affirmtive action policy? Is your
daughter going to be able to win its sport given
trans policy? Like put together ten things that actually day
(09:28):
to day might affect you as a woman and pitch
that to women. But right now, Trump's not doing especially
well with women as a group.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Because he's a had living too much up there, is
not sticking to the points.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's actually I think, like teleprompter Trump is the best Trump.
Like this was one of those things with Kamala Harris
just as you know a consultant who mostly works GOP
but has that a range of clients. Kamala Harris does
a set pretty good sum stump speech. This is forty minutes,
and something a lot of people on the Republican side
have been saying is like, can you believe this? She's
is going from city to city give her the same
boring speech. And I think we've gotten so used to
(10:03):
Trump and Biten rambling on kind of that we've forgotten
that that's what politicians do, Like you go to Toledo, Dayton, Cincinnati,
Columbus and you give your speech, and even Bill Quinton
did that, and I Harris is just returning to that,
and she's doing a pretty good job. I personally, I
think Trump needs to kind of write one of those
(10:24):
like I'm America first. I'm the guy who broke crime
at least prior to the riots. You know, I'm the
guy who wants to build a wall. I'm the guy
who wants to bring back factory. Job is just knock
it out. Twenty nine minutes, get off the podium, all right,
We're out.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Of time this time. Love talking to you though off
and on. I appreciate it. I hope things go well
for you at KSU this year. Your book is called lies,
my liberal teacher told me, and I'm sure you're selling
a few copies of that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Wilfrid's actually the bestseller, Lies, my liberal teacher told me.
I always love talking about it to a Kentucky audience.
Thanks for having me on the show.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
You bet you see you down the road. That is
doctor Wilfrid. Yes, sir, doctor Wilfrid Riley R E. I
L L wise book as lies, my liberal teacher told
me back in a minute on news radio eight forty
w h A. S.
Doctor Wilfred Riley isn't a political scientist, Political Sciences, Academic Affairs,
School of Criminal Justice and Government Relations at Kentucky State University.
Welcome back. It's good to have you back on Yeah,
good to be here. I enjoy all your stuff on Twitter.
I know you comment on various shows and do all that.
(00:21):
So let's start with the last year's college year, just
in general across America. Professor, do you think it's going
to be as tumultuous this fall as it was last
year with the pro Palestine protests and then the blockage
of Jewish students moving around campuses? Or you think that's
kind of eased up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
No, I think the pro Palestine students and the Jewish
students will be back to fist fighting and countermarching and
so on, because the war is still going on. I mean,
there's actually a pretty famous paper that looks at ebbs
and flows and call it rioting about fifteen years ago,
and they found that deans and campus cops and so
on try to take a lot of credit for this happening.
(01:04):
But the real, the real reason it happens is that
just summer and Christmas come around, so No, I think
you'll see a lot of the same thing in a
lot of states, probably less in Kentucky than in most places.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, it just seems like it was starting to lose
its momentum, you know, with all the hunger strike ridiculousness,
and you'd see these kids and think, you're not hungry,
you know, and they were. They were, they were. That
was all just semantics. They weren't really denying themselves anything.
They were just trying to make a statement. So I
don't see as much evidence of that, but we'll see
(01:36):
what happens here in the coming weeks.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Well, people get bored, I mean I don't. I don't
think the average person at a fraternity house in UK
or Ulu or ks you really spend most of their
time thinking about the heroic struggle of you know, the
idf versus hamas on either side. It's a way to
meet girls and explain that you're not a political idiot,
and you know, so on on the line, and you know,
(02:01):
eventually you get tired of it and you don't like
sleeping in a tent anymore and you go home. Yeah,
that's something a lot of people did in college. That's
pretty politically active in college. I still have an Occupy
mask somewhere at home.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Did I forgot all about that movement? Is that how
you met women.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Twelve years ago? Well, I think yeah, to some extent,
I mean people. Yeah, it's any social scene is a
good place to meet members of the opposite sex and
passive bottle o whisky around and talk about things. I
don't think campus protesting is good, but I don't see
dramatically more brawling there than I do it. You know,
(02:35):
football game between two old rivals, Illinois and Michigan, And
you know, I understand that campuses need to shut a
lot of this stuff down. I think they were right
to prevent some of the worst anti semitism. When you
look at stuff like occupy, where people are just chanting
about how the rich have too much money, I think
that's something you've probably seen and where students gather for
a thousand years. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
How do you feel now, twelve years later though about
your occupied stance back then versus the reality of being
twelve years older and wiser to the ways of the world.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I think they're two things. First, I think that young people,
when they look at movements like Christianity or moderate socialism,
are absolutely right that the world could be better. I
think that's correct. People could behave better when it comes
to finances and sexuality, and so I'm like, that's true.
I also think that they don't understand very simple things
that adults do understand, Like right now, I have a
(03:29):
pretty good income in the government already does take forty
percent of my income and taxes, like we already do
have tax policy, it already does hit the rich harder,
and then the government wastes the money. So I don't
think young people practically understand that, And that's why a
slogan like tax the rich just irritates their dad so much.
So I think there are two things like, yes, we
(03:50):
could have a much better world, but two, we've already
tried the things that college radicals want to try. Why
don't we make the police not kill people? So I
think that there's a lot to be said for growing
up and going into business or going into policing and
learning well, we already did that, and the problem isn't
(04:10):
what you think it is, and trying to solve the
issue that actually exists. I mean, the problem with the
crime in inner city black and poor white communities is
not racism, or something like that, it's mostly fatherlessness. Like
I discovered a lot of things like that when I
became an actual leader over the past fifteen twenty years.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Indeed, you take a lot of heat sometimes too as
a black man. You take heat from people who say
you're turning your back on your own community. To say
that's fatherlessness and not just baked in white supremacy.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Well, I mean, actually most of the people that take
heat from w be sort of blue haired white liberals.
I mean, if you go to a Black Baptist church
which is going to be about as well funded as
a white one in Kentucky, and you say men need
to take care of their kids, I mean you're not
necessarily going to have that much of a backlash. KSU
I mean has some financial problems. There is the top
two hundred collegence of black institutions, So I mean, I
(05:04):
think that there is a lot of excuse making in
the black community. But I also think there's a lot
of recognition of these points. And I think the hardest
denial of these points that I've seen comes from people
of all races who are sort of pure political activists
and who want to use these problems to kind of
indict the USA, like, look at all these poor people,
(05:24):
We need communism, And the reality is that there are
a lot of things that would work much better to
solve the problem of long term poverty than socialism. Like
teaching job skills to poor people comes to mind, you know,
teaching marriage so that you'd have two people in a
household and stead of one and they wouldn't be poor anymore.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Fascinating how that works the basics.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And multiply twenty nine thousand dollars by two and then
he had a middle class household is crazy in math.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You're political sciences guy in so you see how things
are shaping up with the newly formed presidential ticket on
the day Democrats side and the messaging that's going on.
Was it smart for Kamala Harris's team to just jump
on and just say, hey, yeah, no tax on tips,
even though Trump had already proposed that. Is that a
(06:13):
good way to blur what the campaign is about.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, I mean they just stole that directly from Trump.
I mean, yeah, it's a good, ruthless move. I think
that the Democrats get a lot more credit for being
nice than they deserve because the Democrats are seen as
the nice, pleasant party and the Republicans are the tough
crew cut dads, and that allows the Democrats to do
tough crew cut dad things that no one notices. So
(06:39):
I mean like Barack Obama jokingly called himself the deporter
in chief and was actually about as good on an
illegal immigration as Trump. I mean, only five million illegal
immigrants entered the country under Obama I think that's eight years,
and he sent most of them back. So when he
was asked about that, he would just smile and say
things like, we welcome people with all backgrounds to this country,
and they would just keep deporting people. I mean, similarly,
(07:01):
which by the way, I support, and similarly with Kamala Harris.
I mean, Trump had a great plan about no taxes
on certain kinds of tipped incomes, certain kinds of business
bonus income. Kamala Harris took the entire plan, did one
Democrat thing which has put an upper end cup on
cap on business bonus income, and just called it the
Harris Plan. Yeah. I think that's a great way to
(07:21):
blow the lines between the campaigns. It's also a pretty
savage thing to do. But it's not like Kamala Harris
and Donald Trump owe each other anything. If I were
Trump smart young guys, I would look through Harris's plans
to see if there's anything on prison reform or something
I could take good point.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I suspect there'll be more stealing back and forth between
now and then. But to these these other issues like
abortion rights, and you know, there are multiple things that
bubble up that seem to coalesce women. And is that
going to be a driving element you think overall in
this election or will it just come down to how
(07:57):
much you're paying for groceries?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Well, I think women are going to be a problem
zone for Trump. I mean, so Trump is a big,
tough New York business guy, and he's running with another
former business ceo who's a former marine, who's facing the
attack that he's a little bit weird, although I don't
think that's really fair at all. Trump has also been
(08:23):
found liable, although not guilty, in a public sex case
involving a woman, and Trump is seen as being anti
choice on abortion. Now interestingly, Trump is to the left
of me on abortion. Trump actually put a pro choice
plank in the Republican Party platform, but that's not what's
perceived as being Trump's position. The majority of people associate
(08:44):
Trump with the repeal of Roe v. Wade, with the
Dobbs decision. I mean, in a number of states, Kentucky,
you essentially can't get an abortion. People are traveling for
that procedure. So when you actually pull women on Trump,
I mean, I think Trump is at like forty four
percent among white women right now, so that's going to
be an issue. Like Trump's campaign has to make ads
targeting women that literally feature kitchen tables where he's sort
(09:08):
of saying, like, sure, there are these issues out there.
You know, they drive past the clinic on the way
home or something, But what's the cost of groceries? You know,
is your son or daughter going to be able to
get into college? Give an Affirmtive action policy? Is your
daughter going to be able to win its sport given
trans policy? Like put together ten things that actually day
(09:28):
to day might affect you as a woman and pitch
that to women. But right now, Trump's not doing especially
well with women as a group.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Because he's a had living too much up there, is
not sticking to the points.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's actually I think, like teleprompter Trump is the best Trump.
Like this was one of those things with Kamala Harris
just as you know a consultant who mostly works GOP
but has that a range of clients. Kamala Harris does
a set pretty good sum stump speech. This is forty minutes,
and something a lot of people on the Republican side
have been saying is like, can you believe this? She's
is going from city to city give her the same
boring speech. And I think we've gotten so used to
(10:03):
Trump and Biten rambling on kind of that we've forgotten
that that's what politicians do, Like you go to Toledo, Dayton, Cincinnati,
Columbus and you give your speech, and even Bill Quinton
did that, and I Harris is just returning to that,
and she's doing a pretty good job. I personally, I
think Trump needs to kind of write one of those
(10:24):
like I'm America first. I'm the guy who broke crime
at least prior to the riots. You know, I'm the
guy who wants to build a wall. I'm the guy
who wants to bring back factory. Job is just knock
it out. Twenty nine minutes, get off the podium, all right,
We're out.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Of time this time. Love talking to you though off
and on. I appreciate it. I hope things go well
for you at KSU this year. Your book is called lies,
my liberal teacher told me, and I'm sure you're selling
a few copies of that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Wilfrid's actually the bestseller, Lies, my liberal teacher told me.
I always love talking about it to a Kentucky audience.
Thanks for having me on the show.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
You bet you see you down the road. That is
doctor Wilfrid. Yes, sir, doctor Wilfrid Riley R E. I
L L wise book as lies, my liberal teacher told
me back in a minute on news radio eight forty
w h A. S.
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