November 10, 2025 • 9 mins
Timothy Weyrauch, president of the Kentuckiana Pride Foundation, responds to the Supreme Court of the United States declining to revisit gay marriage laws. Kim Davis, a former Kentucky clerk who refused to issue a marriage license to two gay men, had filed the appeal to overturn the SCOTUS 2015 decision in Obergefell vs Hodges, allowing for legal gay marriage in America.
Davis has been rebuffed, but Weyrauch fears that others will attempt to find a different legal strategy to overturn the landmark federal law.
Davis has been rebuffed, but Weyrauch fears that others will attempt to find a different legal strategy to overturn the landmark federal law.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The president of Kentucky in a Pride foundation. That is
Timothy Wyrock, or as I like to call him, because
I'm a good friend, Timmy. Is that okay?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
That's perfect?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Have you heard Timmy? Your whole life?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh, my whole life, Terry, my whole life, all my
family and relatives, you know, like the cousins like to
call me Timmy, and even in high school they call
me Timmy.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Timmy. Still today some people call me Timmy.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
But does that throw you off? Does it make you
feel like they're infantalizing me?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
No, No, it's actually it's it's very nice to be
able to have people that you love so much, you know,
do you just say, you know, hey, Timmy, It's it's
it strikes me though sometimes I'm like, I'm not a kid,
but you know what, it's right, it's endearing.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Learn a lot of Billies and Jimmies who go through
that sort of thing, and people go, know, James, it's like, nah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I've always known you, you know exactly exactly, No, but Timmy, Timothy,
tim All's good.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I gotta post our picture together because you dressed nicely
for this particular interview with your U of l and
then it's in your you're dressed for there's a big
event this week.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I'm ready for Game Day first of all, for the
Cards or Kentucky tomorrow, but put this code on this
dinner jacket for Saturday to kind of talk about the
Shine Gala, which is going to be hosted there at
the Speed Museum. The Kentucky and a Pride Foundation. Literally,
after twenty five years, we've talked about ways that we
(01:19):
can give back to the community. We already do it
through our parade and festival, which happens in June, of course,
but this is different. This we really saw a need
in the community to be able to create a fund
or an endowment, and that's what this event is all about,
is in creating an endowment of space where we can
raise money for really the LGBTQIA plus community. We've seen
(01:41):
a lot of DEI programs or that's diversity, equity and
inclusion programs being cut from corporate sponsorships. We're seeing government
money kind of just fleeting essentially, So with that money
really drying up, we need ways to be able to
generate revenue for nonprofit organizations in the community who have
great services to offer.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And so you're able to do that through this Shine
Gala that comes up at the Speed, which is such
a beautiful venue. Are you getting sponsors? You have good sponsorship.
We do.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Actually, it's buy community for community. You'll notice that any
of the sponsors that's listed. So if you go to
the Shinegala dot org, that is our website for this.
It has all of our sponsors, it has information about
buying tickets. The unfortunate but good thing is is we've
sold out of all of our tables, but we do
have social experience tickets still left. That means for late
(02:34):
night bites, for drinks and for the entertainment portion which
will start around eight o'clock, a little bit after eight o'clock.
But the early night activities that we have, which will
be the pre cocktail before dinner and the programming, that
part or portion is sold out, which is great. Really
lots of local sponsors. My Financing USA is our really
presenting sponsor, but we have many other really local and
(02:58):
fabulous organizations that stepped up and said, hey, let's help
out this event. Let's create this adowment, let's create sustainability
for the future of the community.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
All Right, we're going to move to some news topics.
If that's all right with you, let's do it. As
president of the Kentucky and of Pride Foundation, I think
you might be acutely interested in the news that came
out of the Supreme Court today. Obviously, people already know
what happened. They told Kim Davis. No, you know, no,
that's the end. And of course that's a cessation of
(03:28):
the process of trying to overturn same sex marriage laws
in America. Once the Supreme Court says say, speak to
the hand, it's over.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
It's right, that's right, or at least right now for
this particular appeal, that particular appeal right exactly. So to
that point, as we have said, and how that love
is love. You know, there's a sacred institution for marriage.
But you know, when you look at that, there's a
couple of different ways you can look at it. You
can look at it from truly a religious or you know,
(03:59):
Chris Ristianity point of view, which is a biblical perspective,
and then you can look at it from a contractual perspective.
And so both of those things when you think about it.
While the institution of marriage tends to be a religious
point that people will make or tout. But at the
same time, there's lots of benefits and taxation and things
that happen related to medical and health care, health surrogacy,
(04:21):
all that sort of stuff that really is tied to marriage,
and people just don't understand that if you can't get
married as the same sex couple, if you really love
each other and you care about each other and you
want to be able to have the benefits of this
union of these two parties coming together, if we can't marry,
then what can we do? What it means there's a
(04:41):
lot of other legal things that we have to do.
We have to create wills, we have to truly create
health ceregracy, contracts, lots of things that have to be
done to be able to have the same rights as
someone who can get married.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
As you know, one of my best friends has been
married to his husband for or thirty five years somewhere around.
They got married in Canada, and then obviously they were
part of the petitioning parties that went to court and
brought same sex marriage here to America. They're so delighted
(05:17):
with that and so proud to be a part of
all that but you know, obviously I'm in communication with
them frequently. They're still worried about cracks in the armor.
Absolutely that that there are other ways people may try
to remove this access, and I can't imagine how that's possible,
But you know, I'm not on the team that is
(05:38):
examining that all your time.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Absolutely, And that's the thing is that you know, to
your point about cracks in the armor, there's always really
the next thing, right and whatever that next thing might be.
You know, if it's not gay marriage, it's drag queens,
and if it's not drag queens, it's you know, dealing
with other conflicts in our community, even just the basic rights.
If you look back, it's not that so distance that
(06:01):
you know, being gay was a crime right, and that's
why we were closeted, and you know, there was you know,
certainly times that we had to really just hide our
identities and mask you know, who we were as people.
And it wasn't until you know, people like Marsha P.
Johnson stood up and said enough of this right and
the stonewall riots and things like that began, and then
(06:21):
you see the stuff that we have evolved to. And
that's why we have pride, really celebrate pride in June
and why we celebrate this idea of being our unique
and authentic selves. And so you know, to that point,
it might just be that next thing and who is
that and what will would.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
That case be?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
We don't know, right, And so we're always fighting. And
that's the thing for any kind of civil rights right.
You have to be able to stand up and fight
and push and hopefully get the right legislators in place
so that we can have laws that can protect all
of us.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
But today feels like a watershed moment, and that once
the Supreme Court rules and its case like this, it's
pretty hard to come up because people use this as precedent.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Correct, Absolutely, that's the thing well, and I would say
the thing about precedents is Roe v. Wade was precedent
for the longest time when we think about abortion right,
so that that's kind of the concern that the community has.
It's like, yeah, we might have gotten this victory today,
but we can't let down our guard just yet, right,
because we've got to make sure that these things get
(07:21):
codified and make sure that not only do we have
these things where we've got a precedent, but there's codification
or we can we can turn this into law and
we can ensure that these things can be sustainable for
the future.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
And for all of our rights and liberties.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
There's a lot of celebration, there is, sure, absolutely, And
of course the story started here in Kentucky. I forgot
which county that was, but that was Kim Davis refusing
to issue a marriage license to two men and she
was citing religious principles, and.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's like, okay, yeah, well then we're talking about legal,
absolutely legal.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And so the Supreme Court gets it.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
They do, and I appreciate that and an applaud the
Supreme Court for what they've done today. And it is
certainly applaud for even your friends for standing up and saying,
you know what, we have a right to and we
want to be able to just love each other.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
That's all Greg would say to me. Greg's my buddy
from my lifetime buddy, and he would just say, we
just we just wanted the same laws applied to us
as everybody else. We want to be able to file
a joint tax return. Absolutely, if I get sick, I
want Michael to be able to come to the hospital
and make decisions on my behalf. Why is that asking
too much?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
That is exactly right, and it's not asking too much rights.
It's baffling to me to think that I couldn't have
the person that I love, and especially your friends. You've
been in a relationship for over thirty years to be
saying it told no, sorry, you can't. You can't enter
this room, even though you've had this committed relationship such
(08:47):
a long time, because you don't have that contract.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Exactly I'm going to say thirty five. See, Greg's going
to get me for this for not no way. You
know where that goes?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
All right?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
The Sean Gala is Saturday.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
It is this Saturday, I renumber fifteenth at the Speed
Gala Museum, So please come out and join us. If
you haven't purchased your tickets, there are some social tickets
at the Shinegala dot org by those today.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Very nice Timothy Wyrock, but I'm gonna call him Timmy
because we're besties.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
That's how that goes, Cherry, thank you so much for
having me.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
As always my friend. All right, back in a few
you're on news radio. Wait forty whas
The president of Kentucky in a Pride foundation. That is
Timothy Wyrock, or as I like to call him, because
I'm a good friend, Timmy. Is that okay?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
That's perfect?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Have you heard Timmy? Your whole life?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh, my whole life, Terry, my whole life, all my
family and relatives, you know, like the cousins like to
call me Timmy, and even in high school they call
me Timmy.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Timmy. Still today some people call me Timmy.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
But does that throw you off? Does it make you
feel like they're infantalizing me?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
No, No, it's actually it's it's very nice to be
able to have people that you love so much, you know,
do you just say, you know, hey, Timmy, It's it's
it strikes me though sometimes I'm like, I'm not a kid,
but you know what, it's right, it's endearing.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Learn a lot of Billies and Jimmies who go through
that sort of thing, and people go, know, James, it's like, nah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I've always known you, you know exactly exactly, No, but Timmy, Timothy,
tim All's good.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I gotta post our picture together because you dressed nicely
for this particular interview with your U of l and
then it's in your you're dressed for there's a big
event this week.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I'm ready for Game Day first of all, for the
Cards or Kentucky tomorrow, but put this code on this
dinner jacket for Saturday to kind of talk about the
Shine Gala, which is going to be hosted there at
the Speed Museum. The Kentucky and a Pride Foundation. Literally,
after twenty five years, we've talked about ways that we
(01:19):
can give back to the community. We already do it
through our parade and festival, which happens in June, of course,
but this is different. This we really saw a need
in the community to be able to create a fund
or an endowment, and that's what this event is all about,
is in creating an endowment of space where we can
raise money for really the LGBTQIA plus community. We've seen
(01:41):
a lot of DEI programs or that's diversity, equity and
inclusion programs being cut from corporate sponsorships. We're seeing government
money kind of just fleeting essentially, So with that money
really drying up, we need ways to be able to
generate revenue for nonprofit organizations in the community who have
great services to offer.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And so you're able to do that through this Shine
Gala that comes up at the Speed, which is such
a beautiful venue. Are you getting sponsors? You have good sponsorship.
We do.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Actually, it's buy community for community. You'll notice that any
of the sponsors that's listed. So if you go to
the Shinegala dot org, that is our website for this.
It has all of our sponsors, it has information about
buying tickets. The unfortunate but good thing is is we've
sold out of all of our tables, but we do
have social experience tickets still left. That means for late
(02:34):
night bites, for drinks and for the entertainment portion which
will start around eight o'clock, a little bit after eight o'clock.
But the early night activities that we have, which will
be the pre cocktail before dinner and the programming, that
part or portion is sold out, which is great. Really
lots of local sponsors. My Financing USA is our really
presenting sponsor, but we have many other really local and
(02:58):
fabulous organizations that stepped up and said, hey, let's help
out this event. Let's create this adowment, let's create sustainability
for the future of the community.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
All Right, we're going to move to some news topics.
If that's all right with you, let's do it. As
president of the Kentucky and of Pride Foundation, I think
you might be acutely interested in the news that came
out of the Supreme Court today. Obviously, people already know
what happened. They told Kim Davis. No, you know, no,
that's the end. And of course that's a cessation of
(03:28):
the process of trying to overturn same sex marriage laws
in America. Once the Supreme Court says say, speak to
the hand, it's over.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
It's right, that's right, or at least right now for
this particular appeal, that particular appeal right exactly. So to
that point, as we have said, and how that love
is love. You know, there's a sacred institution for marriage.
But you know, when you look at that, there's a
couple of different ways you can look at it. You
can look at it from truly a religious or you know,
(03:59):
Chris Ristianity point of view, which is a biblical perspective,
and then you can look at it from a contractual perspective.
And so both of those things when you think about it.
While the institution of marriage tends to be a religious
point that people will make or tout. But at the
same time, there's lots of benefits and taxation and things
that happen related to medical and health care, health surrogacy,
(04:21):
all that sort of stuff that really is tied to marriage,
and people just don't understand that if you can't get
married as the same sex couple, if you really love
each other and you care about each other and you
want to be able to have the benefits of this
union of these two parties coming together, if we can't marry,
then what can we do? What it means there's a
(04:41):
lot of other legal things that we have to do.
We have to create wills, we have to truly create
health ceregracy, contracts, lots of things that have to be
done to be able to have the same rights as
someone who can get married.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
As you know, one of my best friends has been
married to his husband for or thirty five years somewhere around.
They got married in Canada, and then obviously they were
part of the petitioning parties that went to court and
brought same sex marriage here to America. They're so delighted
(05:17):
with that and so proud to be a part of
all that but you know, obviously I'm in communication with
them frequently. They're still worried about cracks in the armor.
Absolutely that that there are other ways people may try
to remove this access, and I can't imagine how that's possible,
But you know, I'm not on the team that is
(05:38):
examining that all your time.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Absolutely, And that's the thing is that you know, to
your point about cracks in the armor, there's always really
the next thing, right and whatever that next thing might be.
You know, if it's not gay marriage, it's drag queens,
and if it's not drag queens, it's you know, dealing
with other conflicts in our community, even just the basic rights.
If you look back, it's not that so distance that
(06:01):
you know, being gay was a crime right, and that's
why we were closeted, and you know, there was you know,
certainly times that we had to really just hide our
identities and mask you know, who we were as people.
And it wasn't until you know, people like Marsha P.
Johnson stood up and said enough of this right and
the stonewall riots and things like that began, and then
(06:21):
you see the stuff that we have evolved to. And
that's why we have pride, really celebrate pride in June
and why we celebrate this idea of being our unique
and authentic selves. And so you know, to that point,
it might just be that next thing and who is
that and what will would.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
That case be?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
We don't know, right, And so we're always fighting. And
that's the thing for any kind of civil rights right.
You have to be able to stand up and fight
and push and hopefully get the right legislators in place
so that we can have laws that can protect all
of us.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
But today feels like a watershed moment, and that once
the Supreme Court rules and its case like this, it's
pretty hard to come up because people use this as precedent.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Correct, Absolutely, that's the thing well, and I would say
the thing about precedents is Roe v. Wade was precedent
for the longest time when we think about abortion right,
so that that's kind of the concern that the community has.
It's like, yeah, we might have gotten this victory today,
but we can't let down our guard just yet, right,
because we've got to make sure that these things get
(07:21):
codified and make sure that not only do we have
these things where we've got a precedent, but there's codification
or we can we can turn this into law and
we can ensure that these things can be sustainable for
the future.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
And for all of our rights and liberties.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
There's a lot of celebration, there is, sure, absolutely, And
of course the story started here in Kentucky. I forgot
which county that was, but that was Kim Davis refusing
to issue a marriage license to two men and she
was citing religious principles, and.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's like, okay, yeah, well then we're talking about legal,
absolutely legal.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And so the Supreme Court gets it.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
They do, and I appreciate that and an applaud the
Supreme Court for what they've done today. And it is
certainly applaud for even your friends for standing up and saying,
you know what, we have a right to and we
want to be able to just love each other.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
That's all Greg would say to me. Greg's my buddy
from my lifetime buddy, and he would just say, we
just we just wanted the same laws applied to us
as everybody else. We want to be able to file
a joint tax return. Absolutely, if I get sick, I
want Michael to be able to come to the hospital
and make decisions on my behalf. Why is that asking
too much?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
That is exactly right, and it's not asking too much rights.
It's baffling to me to think that I couldn't have
the person that I love, and especially your friends. You've
been in a relationship for over thirty years to be
saying it told no, sorry, you can't. You can't enter
this room, even though you've had this committed relationship such
(08:47):
a long time, because you don't have that contract.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Exactly I'm going to say thirty five. See, Greg's going
to get me for this for not no way. You
know where that goes?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
All right?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
The Sean Gala is Saturday.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
It is this Saturday, I renumber fifteenth at the Speed
Gala Museum, So please come out and join us. If
you haven't purchased your tickets, there are some social tickets
at the Shinegala dot org by those today.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Very nice Timothy Wyrock, but I'm gonna call him Timmy
because we're besties.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
That's how that goes, Cherry, thank you so much for
having me.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
As always my friend. All right, back in a few
you're on news radio. Wait forty whas
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