Ricky Jones on U of L sports and DEI as a replacement for the N-word

Dr. Ricky Jones talked the downfall of U of L athletics and the use of DEI as a replacement for the N-word...

Episode Transcript

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Oh, that's Ricky Jones. Guy. How does he kid getting into my
studio here in Rocking My World?You'll get mad him because you know,
you want to talk about the ancientpass with U of L basketball, and
you know I'm just trying to disabuseyou at that notion, your friend.
We're talking about the new coach hereat the University of Welcome, doctor Ricky

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Jones. Good to have you here. Drive Time with the Jones, Drive
Time with the Jones. All right. The new contract's released for Pat Kelsey.
They call it the term sheet.He makes two point three million for
the whole five years of the deal, and then there are various bonuses twenty
five thousand for instance, conference Coachof the Year and then up to fifty
grand if you're a national coach ofthe year, and then you get rewards

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if you make it in the NCAAtournament and win games. Does he have
one of those Kevin Keats deals whereif he wins the conference tournament he gets
an extra two years or no,But that was smart of Kevin Keats and
he got to buy out a onepoint one million after Kenny at least them
for eight Oh my, Chris Maxbuyout was four point eight Kenny Paines is
eight million. Pat Kelsey's only onepoint one million. Okay, But anyway,

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and so Ricky and I are talkingabout the U of L. And
it's been, you know, obviouslycircling the drain for many years. There's
been all these problems. But Ifeel like today's a start, the start
of the turnaround. No you don't, Yes I did. No, you
don't. Don't try to talk meout of it. You're always trying to
pease your audience. Man, I'mhere to tell you the truth. Are
you really excited about Pat Kelsey?Yes? I like his energy. I

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think he's funny. So Remo,Curly and Larry they were funny. Well,
we got to see what players hegets, right Ian. That's the
thing is, it's we got tosee who he's bringing to the family.
Now. Well, I mean it'sgonna be a whole even even if we
get names, that's not gonna meana whole lot until we get to see

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him on the floor, because it'sgonna be a completely different style than what
was played last year. It lookeda lot more like Alabama than what we
saw from Kenny Payne, at leastoffensively. So you know, we may
we may not know the names,but you know it will be can they

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play in what he wants to do? Oh my god, man, y'all,
you know, here's what amazes aretalking about. Cal. Here he
goes, I'm not talking about Calright now, I'm just talking about y'all
with this this this this false enthusiasm. Dude, I mean, it's not
false. It's it's like you yougo up to a girl or to dance
and hey, do you want todance? And you really really want to
dance with her? She was likeno. Then you go to another girl,

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Hey you want to dance? No, And then you go to some
girl that nobody's asking to dance andyou're like, hey you want to dance?
Well, I want her all Alonge, you don't want her, You
didn't want her. Scott Drew said, kick rocks. Dusty May said kick
rocks. Baby, Patino, youknow some people didn't want him. He
probably would have said kick rocks.So you disrespected my daddy, and then
you get Look, I just I'mnot mad at Pat Kelsey. I don't

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know that brother. I might meethim, I might love him. He
clearly wanted to get the hell outof Charleston because this deal he got.
Come on, man, I meanI would take that two point three million,
So what he because he only gotpaid one point one theirs exactly,
so he doubled his pay. Butwith all this enthusiasm, come on and
Terry, all of this stuff thatyou're trying to sell me about UFL basketball
right now, dude, stop,I want to see who they bring in

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the man's family. Look, it'sa beautiful spring day. Everything looks great.
Some realtors like new millionaire in towntrying to sell them a house right
away. Let's make sure they don'tget on the part. Well, uncle
Sam, get a hold of thattwo point three he ain't gonna be that
far over being a millionaire. Okay, let me tell you. Because those
jack booty gangsters at the RS,they're gonna get their money and you know

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that. So look, I gotno problem with Pat Kelsey. My man
seems really, really enthusiastic. Butyou know what this is right here?
What this this? This is thewedding. Man, this the wedding,
the wedding, the honeymoon to runup to the wedding. Everybody happy with
that? Wait, did you getyour ass in divorce court. Wait,
you really get any mad with pain? Dad? You know how it is.

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Look, I'm just saying, man, UFL's been held together with fitting
sticky tape. And I'm saying thatbecause I have loved U of L.
I've been committed to U of Lmore than all of y'all. You were
married to U of veil twenty eightyears. Been hearing her snore at night,
been hearing her denied me back rubs, won't cook me, no food,

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showed me all kinds of disrespect,bring strange people up in my house,
disrespecting me. And I'm still thereloving that woman. But she a
bad wife. I'm just telling you. And all that foolish is you talking
about? Oh, UFL is numbersix and over the last seventy five years,
they are. Yeah, And TigerWools was number one too, till
they found him sleepy out in thestreet with his feet and barefooted and snoring,

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and then everything was downhill. Thatwas two thousand and nine. Hey
man, y'all, y'all, y'allwanna y'all wanna talk all that trash U
of L and U of L sportshave not been y'all can talk all that
trash. You want to talk.I know, ain't nobody out here showing
no love for my boy Ricky pno love for my boy Tom Jeurich.
But it ain't been the same sincethey left. That's the truth. People
admit that. I mean, theywere those were a high glory days then.

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Yeah, and U Jurich he wasa mass as things were stacking up
against Rick Patino, which we knowhe was exonerated. Lies. Yeah,
lie that Juriche stuck by Rick andthen ultimately lost his job over there.
And you know why because Tom Georgewas a man. Okay, Tom George
was a man. Everybody want tocome in. You know, they talk

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about recreating history. Tom George ISDEIyou know what I'm saying. I mean,
that's what they want to say.I guess they want to recreate history
and be like, oh, TomGeorge did this and Rick Patino did that.
No, the person who really startedthe downfall of U of L academically
and athletically was Governor mad Matt Bevin. When Mad Matt Bevin wiped out the

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Border Trustees, put his own peoplein there, led by one Papa John
Schnyder, and everybody was like,yeah, let's listen to what Papa John
says. Papa John is a greatbusiness man. Papa John got money.
How y'all feel about that? Now, Papa John went after Rick Petino when
after Tom Jeorche went after Rick Falseley, and Tom just stood and say,
You're not gonna fire my dude.I'm not gonna fire my dude. And

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so they got both of them.It was just that simple. None was
proven on So Matt Bevin orchestrated thewhole board and it was it was a
means of getting a Jurich and Patino. That was his basis for that.
Matt Bevin wanted to take over theUniversity of Louisville and put his surrogates on
the board of trustees. This istrue. Go back and check it out.

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Matt Bevin wiped out the whole borderof Trustees. Not only did he
change its composition, he changed itssize, which was against the law at
that time. And then the KentuckySupreme Court came back and said, yeah,
what he did was against the law, but it's been done. So
now the point is moved. Whodoes that? Who does that? So
I can go out and just smokesomebody, just kill somebody, Well,

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your murder is illegal, but sinceyou've done it, the point is moved.
What kind of approaches that to thelaw? Right? And nothing was
proven on Rick. None was provenabout Rick knowing anything about the recruitment of
this recruit that nobody's ever even heardof. Don't even remember him. Who
was it, Brian Bowen? Youjust looked that up, but you wouldn't
remember his name. Nobody proved anythingabout Rick knowing about those strippers over in
that dorm. And I know Rickwasn't involved in it. You know how

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No, Rick wasn't involved in Howdo you know that if Rick Pattino was
involved in bringing those strippers to thatdorm, there would have been a higher
class of stripper in that dorm.Bottom line? You know it because Rick
Batino is one of the last Americanpimps. And you knew it when he
came in here, and you knewit every time he came out of that
white suit. But every time Ricktouches a program, what they do when

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that's true, they win? Isit Saint John's Although they did not make
the tournament, they kind of gotedged out there at the last second this
year. But yeah, he's gotsomething moving again at Saint John. They're
happy about that. I want Rickypet back. There's no way he hates
the school. He sued them forforty million dollars and got zero. Here's
what Ricky p said. He said, I would consider going back if I

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was hired by Tom Drew, ifthey reconciled with Tom. So bring Tom
back, Bring Rick back, yoube in much better situation. Couldn't picture
that at all. I could.Those are my dudes. Josh Hurd is
the athletic director. Now he's madea higher I am all in. I
want to see what he can do. What else are we gonna do?
That's the situation. That's the reality. You have to swim in reality.

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River, Look, man, Igot I got no problem with Josh heard.
I think he's a really nice guy. You know, I had no
problem with Marcus Marioda when he wasquarterback in the Falcons. You know I
was pulling for Desmond Ridder when hewas quarterback in the Falcons. Know what
the problem was with Marcus Marioda andDesmon Ridder though couldn't play, but I
loved them when they were part ofmy teams. I love Josh. There
you go, I'm pulling for Josh. Let's see what happened. But he

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ain't no Tom jeordge. He's aTom George protege. Oh god, you
know what, don't Okay? Istarted to say something because I talked to
Tom about some stuff. Man,But yeah, okay, he did.
He worked with him. Okay,so you know some of the skills.
He was a part of the athleticsdepartment. It ain't like he was Tom
George's right hand man. Let's befair. Let's do some projection, all

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right. If the average was whate and five thousand people per game,
and that how they averaged it outon the whole season? This was it
was a little over six thousand inscanned tickets. What's it going to be
at the end of the first yearof Pat Kelsey's head coach. I don't
know, man, because you know, it's a movement in this country right
now. It might not be noblack boys that want to play basketball in
Kentucky. You gotta sit tight sothat happens. Kelsey in trouble. If

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the brothers abandoned you, Pat Kelsey, if there's no DEI, it's a
problem. There's a mayor in Baltimorewho's taken a lot of arrows since a
cargo ship hit one of the mostfamous bridges in America. Bouncing off them,
Yeah, bouncing off them. Atfirst, he came out in the
middle of the night and you know, started to take media questions and people

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are like, who's this guy.It's like, why don't you pay attention?
He's the mayor. Hey man,these d e eyes is fighting back.
Brother, who I'm saying? Youbetter get you some d e ies.
Pat Kelsey, you better get yousome d e os. Boy,
the d I s can play basketball. You have more time to talk.
Yeah, I canna talk to moreabout Pat Kelson Y. Yeah, no,

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d e I. We're gonna talkabout the Baltimore deal, the the
twist and de I. Now alot they think a lot of white people
are using that to mean the Nword. You think they're not. I'm
seeing that all over MSNBC. NowI'm your strong d e I right up
there. He had to tell youthe truth, baby d IDs for life.

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Sitty Ricky Jones here at news radioeight forty w h A s all
right, oh we don't get ananthem. I guess today, Sorry about
that, Ricky. Oh oh,Ian says his computer's jammed up. All
right, it'll be back with ussooner or later. Doctor Ricky Jones in
the studio with us for his driveTime with Jones comes in and he has

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wound up in fifth gear when hewalks in the door like the new basketball
coach. D I must have setup Ian's computer. That's why it fell
apart. Look, man, letme, let me, let me get,
let me give, let me give. Pat Kelsey please do some love.
Thank you. At first I thoughthe was related to Travis Kelcey and
Jason Kelcey, but then I sawthe name was different. He seems like

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a really energetic guy who who whowas really humble, who was really dedicated,
has worked very, very hard.He seems to understand the game of
basketball. Who you know, probablyfrom a point guard's perspective, so he
sees it very different. And peopleknow that point guards usually make the better

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coaches as time goes on. Sohe's coming into a tough situation at a
school that has been historically great buthas struggled a bit lately. But no
struggles last forever. No and andPat Kelsey could be the sparkplug to really
ignite not just a new era ofLouisville basketball, but serve as a rallying

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point for everybody else to marshal thepro U of L forces, rescue the
school, the city, and thestate. Is this like in The Grinch
who Stole Christmas? Your heart justgot eight times bigger. It's busting out
of my chest. Doctor Ricky Jonesis at the uh well, he's at

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a think tank. I'll give youthe full name here. He's the Baldwin
Kings Scholar in Residence at the Uof L environ And, which is right
down the street. But it's athink tank. He's a deep thinker.
And that was profound what you didsaid right there. I appreciate that,
mister deep thinker. Am I notmerciful? You are mercivel? And are

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you not at a tame? Okay, let's get into this whole thing,
because really the Internet this week isfilled with people saying white people are saying
DEI as a replacement for the Nword. And we saw it really bubble
up, mostly with the Baltimore mayortalking to the media, and people were
surprised by how mellow he was,and then they're like, is this is

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the Miyror of Baltimore, and thenthey started in he's a DEI higher,
which of course is moronic. Hewant the man won an election. Look,
I've been saying this, right,I've been saying that people who are
they are the acronyms will change orthe you know, first it was their
anti affirmative action. Then they're antiwoke, you remember that one, right.

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Then they're anti CRT. Didn't knowwhat CRT was, but they're anti
CRT. Then they're anti BLM.Now they're anti DEI. And I've been
saying what they really are anti black. But when you look at the way
Brandon Scott handled it, and youknow, Terry, we've been friends a
long time. We've been around people, and folks always get upset with me

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and Kentucky, Oh you're so arrogant. Well call it what you want.
You call it what you want.I got a PhD at twenty eight years
old. I'm damn near genius.Okay, So that was after serving in
the navy. Dah, it wasafter going to the Naval Academy. Didn't
go into Morehouse, didn't getting aPhD. I went to grad school at
UK before cal got there. AndI said how long does it take to

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get a PhD here? And theysaid, well, theoretically you can do
it in four years, but mostpeople take six or seven. I said,
well, I'll do it in fourand I did. Okay, So
it's not about being arrogant, it'sjust about being confident. I actually read,
you know, I think I dothese things. And so when people
listen those folks up in Frankfurt,I'm calling them out all the time,

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all the time. Jennifer Decker,all that cruise. He's a descendant of
a slave. Wait, yeah,daddy was a slave. All the people,
the toothless people who don't want floorride, all of them, Like
Marcus Garvey said, Africa for Africans, Kentuckians get mad at you if you
ain't from Kentucky. You come hereand tell the truth. Why don't you
get out there, junior bus dirt. We don't want your hair, Kentucky

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fu Kentuckians just take ours back toAtlanta, why don't you? And I
don't get upset with them about it. I just like the British word you
threw in their arts, and I'mvery calm about it, just like Brandon,
Brandon, you know what these peoplewant to call us you know what
DEI means to them. There isno use of us getting upset about it.

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I know what these people are gonnado. I know what they are.
My whole thing is just make themtell the truth. Just own it.
Just like the business leaders here thatdon't say anything about the anti de
eyes are like the people in chargeof DEI for corporations, but they don't
they don't say anything to defend thede eyes. We de ies need your
health. Business people in Louisville.You always make fun of them, saying

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they're they're they're doing things off radar, behind the scenes. Yeah, they
always tell you you remember Training toDay Oh the movie, Yeah, yeah,
I love that. Lozzo Harris,who was probably the most evil person
ever Denzel Washington. Lonzo was evelove of course Lonzo. Like you know,
I said, people, Man,I'm gonna go Lonzo Harris on the

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next person, especially the next blackperson, politician or whoever profession. Well,
you gotta do things the right way, your coward, I'm working behind
the scenes. No you're not.I'm going Lonzo on them. I'm going
Lonzo on them. But so lookhow Lonzo wound up on the street,
go out. It's got bullet holesin him, and then all those black
people are standing around him. He'sgoing cut take him, get him.

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I'll give you this, if youand they wouldn't stop, the white cop
ethan hawk is not walking through thatdoor, and there will be an alternative
ending to this. So you know, man, I'm just telling. But
I appreciate you, Terry. Iappreciate you all, you good people in
Louisville and through our Kentucky eight Ford. It got a very very strong signal.

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I appreciate y'all letting me hang outwith you, letting the deies chill
and your nice little white intock space. What about Frankfort, the bills that
you see being passed, I knowthese have to do with what's being taught
in schools. That's one of themajor ones that went through that you and
I have discussed and you've written aboutextensively in Courier Journal. For one,
it's lies. Everything that those peoplesay in Frankfurt are lies. They're saying

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that you want to teach young littlewhite kids that to feel guilty about just
being born. Lies, lies,lies. Ain't nobody teaching CRT in Kentucky,
Man, They don't even know whatcritical race theory is. They don't
know that it comes from critical legalstudies. They've never read Derek Bell,
they've never read Kimberly Crenshaw. Theydon't know anything about this stuff. I

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guarantee you. You call them up. You called Jennifer Decker up, you
call her friends up. You bringthem all up in here, you bring
them all up in here. Nextweek, well not next week because I
got a program, but the weekafter that, I will debate every Republican
in Frankfurt, all of them bymyself, and they'll be out numbered.
They're liars, they're liars, butthey have numbers. I would love that

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show. I know you have anyevent coming up this week that you want
to talk about, but that wouldbe a good premise sometime. But I
don't know anybody would agree to dothat. You know why they want to
be afraid of you. Yeah,just like just like that mayor said,
he said, DEI for me standsfor duly elected incumbent. And I know
that black men have always been theboogeyman in this country, especially smart black

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men, the boogeyman in this coast. Now y'all love them. De I
is playing basketball out there. Don'tnobody say nothing in Kentucky about THEEI is
being overrepresented on the basketball court.I'm gonna be watching tonight, Pat Kelsey,
Pat Kelsey, need them de ees, don't e my man, Cal's
I love Cal Cal need them deies. You take the de ies off these
teams. Oo. They're in trouble, right, they're in trouble. But

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Scott said they scared of smart blackmen. We're the boogeyman for them and
they need to be scared. Whenyou're saying DEI here, are you really
saying the N word? Oh?You know, I am? You know
I am. I told people everytime you see these people from Frankfurt the
other places, put d I taked E I out of put the N
word in again. You will understandwhy their vitro runs so deep. Ian.

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Let's under fruit basket to the FCC. I want to make sure that
we're still on good in good standing. I didn't say the word out.
I did, Oh don't. I'mnot bouth to, I wasn't going to.
I'm being respectful. I'm doing thingsthe right way. I'm working behind
the scenes. Talk more about this, though there are obviously a vast majority
of college athletes are black people,and you're telling them, why are they

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helping universities that don't back them up? Why are they going out and given,
you know, giving their best onthe baseball diamond or the basketball court
or the football field. Well,already know why, right, I already
know why. And I talk aboutit this week in my Courier Journal USA
Today Network article. Go read it. It's a brother out in the University

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of Southern California by the name ofSean Harper. He wrote a piece in
Forbes and said that black student athletesactually had the power to disrupt March Madness
and the anti DEI movement all overthe country. It's like, just don't
go to certain states, don't playfor certain schools. They could absolutely disrupt
it because the majority of the playersare black. He's right, they could,
but they won't. And I tellyou why they have not been educated

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or socialized to do so. Now, if the Republican legislators in Frankfort were
telling the truth and CRT have beentaught to all these deis all over the
country from the time that they werein pre k, then they wouldn't get
away with all this stuff. Becausethem deidds would fight back. But these
de eyes they got right now,they're not gonna fight back because they have

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been miseducated. Like Carter G.Woodson said, So go read that,
and so I tell you why.I tell you why. These athletes are
not prepared, as Bill Roden said, for that brawl. But these people
are coming at them. But theycould get out of it. But look,
man, this country is in adifferent place. And before we leave,
Terry, I appreciate it. Hopefullyyou can make it. Next week.
Thursday, April fourth is the fiftysixth anniversary of the assassination of my

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dear Morehouse brother, Martin Luther KingJunior. I have a program through the
Christina Lee Brown and Virome Institute.I need you to get that right.
The Christina Lee Brown and viralm Institute'sBaldwin King Project. Okay, we're having
a program that is asking what wouldJames Baldwin and Martin Luther King Junior think
of America today. It's at Rootsone oh one African American Museum. It's

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a one twenty four North First Street, five PM on April fourth. Yeah,
go Thursday. Go to my pageon the Twitter or the Facebook.
What are you man that they didn'tsay Christina Lee Brown's name. Christy Brown
is my girl. I know sheloved the EU, but I have to
detach her name every time I mentionedyour think tank. Yeah, okay,
yeah, you need to put somerespect on her name. What you got

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a problem with, Christy bro No, I just you said, you know.
Let me get this right. Ijust said U of l Envirol and
you said, no, it's ChristyLee Brown. I got it. Yeah,
just show us some respect. Sonext Thursday five o'clock reception will give
y'all some free food. And again, this is not a hustle. You
remember that rare conference that was makingwhite women feel good about their foolishness,

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and people had to pay all kindof money and pay money for consultantships and
all that. I ain't let y'allforget that. I don't do that.
I'm not here to hustle you.Everything I do. I have gone out
and literally raised money so that everyprogram I put on can be free.
It ain't a hustle. It's knowledge. I'm inviting all y'all Republicans to come
come on out, try to getsome knowledge. If you don't mind hanging

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with Deis for a little bit.You know, we might, baby,
to teach you something. I'm gonnarub your nose in it. You race
it, I'm gonna rub your nosein it till the end of the time.
You got the wrong DEEI here,I am your huckleberry doctor, Ricky
Jones. You are really wound uptoday. I feel good, Baby,

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It's pretty good. He's busting outlike the daffodil. I love you,
Pat Kelsey, good luck, brother. I waited for you to say that.
Love you, brother man, Loveyou, Bo