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July 1, 2025 • 41 mins
When Terry Meiners decided to leave WQMF to do grownup radio on WHAS, it created a lot of hurt feelings from his radio partner Ron Clay, WQMF owners Diamond John Otting and WEBN's Bo Wood, plus a strange period of waiting to be pulled into the WHAS orbit.

Terry details the story in a wide ranging interview with KSR's Billy Rutledge on WKRD, July 1, 2025
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But now we continue our week of getting to know
the Louisville Building with an absolute legend.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Terry Miners joining me to know the Louisville Building.
That's right.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
I'm still trying to get to know this building myself.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Philly. It's good to see it, my friend.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
It's an honor to have you on, Terry, and I
mean this with full sincerity. You are a mentor to me,
and I thank you for everything and all the advice
that you've given me over the years. I think back
of many great times. But I need to congratulate you.
As we walked in, you said today is your forty
year anniversary here in Louisville.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Is that right? That is correct?

Speaker 3 (00:34):
I signed my papers on July first, nineteen eighty five.
I left QMF in Louisville. I was going to say
KQQ that's where I started at Lexington. But I left
QMF on Memorial Day weekend, on the Friday. Can I
tell a story? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Please?

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Of course, this is what this hour's for. Okay, good,
So let me back up a couple of days. Someone
says to me, I get a phone call Terry Minors. Yes,
if I were you, I'd apply for the afternoon job
on WHAS Radio. I was like, well, that's intriguing. This
is very mysterious. Actually I knew the guy, but he

(01:13):
was an intermediary because I'm sure that the Bingham owned
WHAS Radio or WHS Incorporated at the time did not
want a torturous interference lawsuit interfering with somebody's contracts. So
somebody called me says that, and I thought, hmm, this
is a good sign. So I immediately went We had typewriters

(01:35):
in and typed eighty four reasons why you should hire
Terry Miners, and then I sent it over to the
program director at WHS. I just made up eighty four things,
and later after he hires me, he said, as soon
as I opened that, I knew I was going to you.
His name was Denny Nugent, the guy who hired me here.
So I did send that and then I kind of

(01:56):
got an inkling and everything was going to go well.
So I had a lawyer write a letter that said
Terry Miners is leaving WQMF. This was to the Oddings
Diamond John Odding, and he'll stay up to six months
because he has a six month no compete he'll stay

(02:17):
up to six more months to help transition in a
new person. But the clock starts ticking right now. So
I hand that in. I finished the Friday morning show
of Memorial Day Weekend nineteen eighty five. I walk into
mister Odding's office, who could be, you know, a little
bit hot headed now and again, but he always treated
me very well. I go in, I hand him the letter,

(02:40):
and he's kind of surprised that I went into his office,
which I'd never done before. He reads the letter, he
looks up at me, he looks back down, reads it again,
and he says, I think you better leave forget what
the transition John. That was it, And so I went home.
And then as soon as I got home, phones ringing.

(03:01):
It's bow Wood, who owns w EBN and Cincinnati. He's
partners in the QMF ownership in Louisville.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
And then he goes.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
He somehow he figures out all automatically what's going on.
He goes whas he goes, they'll fire you in three months.
They're just trying to break up what we have going
on here. Don't do this, don't do not. This is stupid.
They're playing you. He's screaming at me on the phone
from Cincinnati, and I said, well, you know, I didn't

(03:30):
acknowledge that it was whs. I just like, well, I
appreciate the cup, but it's time for me to just
get a change. And it was kind of wild there
for a while because I was nervous. Oh yeah, whas right.
It's a staple. It's like dances with wolves. You know,
you're Kevin Costner. They send you way out to this
far post and nobody talks to you. And so for

(03:52):
a month I just had to just cut the bushes
and cut the grass and hang around and think, God,
I hope they're.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Serious because I quit my job.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
And sure enough, then right at the end of June
forty years ago, someone said, wow, you can come on
and sign papers now, but we're not going to put
you on the air until the summer first. We'll honor
the non compete. And so that was all fun, but
that month was kind of nerve wracking. Sure, it really
was just a drift, like, you know, is this going

(04:21):
to happen?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Of course it did.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Well before the forty years of being a staple of
this community. You know, I've enjoyed over the last few
years hearing old audio of Terry Miners, whether it be
beaver Bit or you know, just some of the wacky
stuff you would do on the rock radio before you
came became the official three to six afternoon show on WHAS.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Right, Well, we've put together a whole website of all
that stuff. Now fifty years of Terry Miners, because next
year is technically fifty years. I started on WKQQ and
Lexington while I was at UK and then i'd come
back to my dorm in the evening after I was
on doing an evening shift and someone would say to me,
is that you on the radio? I was like, yeah, sorry,

(05:02):
sorry to burst your bubble. You seem cool on the air,
but you're not in real life.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Funny how that works, isn't it? Were you?

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Did you play more of a character back when you
started in radio than it was yourself, because I'm sure
nowadays it's more of yourself on ha.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
What I started doing in Lexington was I took sound effects.
I love the concept of sound effects. So what I
would do on this rock station it's it's we still
own it. It's w KQQ. It just moved up the dial.
I think the bowl has that frequency. Now that's where
KQQ was. Now it's like one hundred or something one
point seven, yeah or something like that. That's it in Lexington.

(05:41):
But I was on ninety eight point one KQQ, and they,
you know, we had a great program director. He's he
gave me some latitude. So I would like say, oh
my god, this boss is so cheap. We're having to
cut the lawn here. I got five acres to do,
so let me play a long I gotta get out

(06:01):
and cut the grass.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Then you'd hear a lawnmar.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Then it would start up, and then I would go
onto Green Grass and High Tides from the Outlaws, which
is a twenty eight minute song or whatever, and then
I would when the song was fading out, you'd hear
the lawnmar come back in and then shut down. And
then I'd act like you know, then I'd make up
lies about things that had happened to me while I
was out there.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
It was real theater of the mind, and it was
just having fun, right, and you did things that I
had never seen in radio before, like the not only impressions,
but even at times you would record yourself or like
as a character, and then you would talk to the recording.
It was like a conversation that you were having, so
you knew what they were going to say.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
But you could make a comedic in that way.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, that was the fun part of that's the challenge.
Joe and I can still do that. Record a voice
and then talk back to it. But I would have
a character called you know, and then I would say, oh,
you can't be serious, you know, And then you make
yourself the sane person and the person on the line, Oh,
the Jefferson County schools gonna be closed. It's ninety two degrees,

(07:04):
why would they be closed? Whatever it is, and so
you yeah, you have conversations with yourself, which is kind
of nuts if you think.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
A little bit. Yeah, but it's genius, so good. I think.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
The riskiest thing I've ever done in radio, though, was
at WKQQ and Lexington when I was working the later
evening hours because they put me on different shifts. At midnight.
You would play an album and you literally played a
vinyl album on the air. You would play side one
and if the record company only sent one copy of

(07:35):
it was a big one, like Fleetwood mac Rumors something
like that, they wouldn't send you a bunch.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
They'd send you one.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
If it was something they wanted you to promote, they'd
send it up for all the DJs to have their
own copy. But if it's something that they knew was
already going to sell, so they give you one. So
here's what you'd have to do. Hey, good evening, wkqq Lexington.
We've got the brand new Fleetwood Mac album. Here's side
one ready goes and then you play it. Well, first off,
you had to make sure that the thing didn't skip.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I mean it's an album.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, sometimes we'd put it like a dime on top
of the stylus to make sure that the thing would
not skip. But then of course comes to transition. Well,
you only have one album, so the the side one,
the last song ends, and then you have to figure out, well,

(08:25):
that was Fleetwood Mac's first album, and such and such,
and Lindsey Buckingham had the cramps when he did this
or whatever. You make up some kind of story. Stevie
Nicks was.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
You know, she had breaking up with her band member
and she was.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Having some kind of emotional breakdown when they recorded this song.
While you're doing that, you're taking the needle if you
were you're doing while you're flipping the album, you're putting
it back down there, and then you're slowly potting this
thing back up, turning the volume back up so that
you don't miss a note and hereside too wow.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
And then so, I mean.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
That's how basic radio was at that time in the
mid seventies.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Eight tracks, reel to reel. I mean you're splicing things
in the studio.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, and vinyl albums forty fives or someone comes in.
They people pop into studio sometimes okay, how you doing,
maybe did and then they sit their briefcase down on
the counter boom, and it makes the record skip and
you're like, oh, it's the record.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I like to tip the dime on top so it's
not skipping. These are the things lost of time.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
The one thing radio station owners did was they bought
really great turntables, you know, really high quality equipment, so
you usually didn't have to do that. But sometimes you'd
get a janky piece of equipment. It just gets abused
because people use it twenty four hours a day. When
I worked at WLRS in Louisville, they had us wear
little white gloves that photographers use really yeah to hang

(09:51):
their prints. You know when when back in a dark room,
you have to pull those sheets out and then hang
them or whatever.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
They use.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Those little gloves, that's what we had to wear in
order to touch the the albums so we didn't scratch
them up.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
That's unbelievable. We're just living in a different time now.
I mean these all these TV screens that surround us
and computer screens.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Just digital everything all the time is so much easier.
But it's there are other complications that come with modern
technology that it's not worth describing here now. But there
is some benefit to the prior engineering of radio stations.
But the best thing about radio is people have fun

(10:30):
at work. There aren't a lot of people who come
home at the end of the day, honey, how was
your day? I was a ball Most people say, oh
my god, it was a sledgehammer upside they had. But
in media, I always feel like I'm refreshed. I know
the news, I have great friends. I learned from someone
like you, Billy. I learned from you know, Janey down
the hall, this person, that person. You pick up things

(10:52):
all the time, and so the collegiality to me helps
make the best show. I don't know how people do
those little shows where they're just sitting in their living
room by themselves, solo, by the they have somebody on
a screen. Well, look at Pat McAfee. He's got that
dufus who played for Green Bay up there, AJJ. He
just looks like a statue there all the time. It's

(11:13):
different when you're not in the same room with someone,
and live radio is always going to produce some magic.
You know, you could be prepared more than anybody, and
when that red light goes on, your brain stops working.
That's happened to me more than once in these few years.
With the pre show, I'm really looking forward to diving
into some more of your story, Terry. We're celebrating forty
nine years of Terry Miners here in the kow.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
All I got to do is live one more year
to get the five O. Let's go. But by the way,
if I crop today, folks, don't take this tape verbatim
because I was an intern in nineteen seventy four at
Wacky Radio in Louisville.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Ohsuly, technically we're over at fifty line. Well, we'll still hold.
We'll still hold the party next year for the fifty
years of Terry. If you have a text a question
for Terry. You want to join the show Texas five
O two two sixty five six sixty five six, Harry,
I went to the dentist yesterday, and I am convinced
that people who choose the chocolate tooth polish or toothpaste

(12:09):
are psychopaths.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
I mean, as an adult, I get it if they're
kids that want the chocolate, But if you were an
adult and you choose the chocolate, I think there's something
wrong with you.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Cinnamon's okay with me, but that chocolate offering seems very weird. Dude,
you just clean my teeth, now you're gonna throw chocolate
rub it all over them.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Doesn't feel clean at all.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
They also told me that less than fifty percent of
people brush their teeth twice a day. Do you Is
that a surprising statistic to you?

Speaker 2 (12:36):
It's a disgusting fact.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I was like, yeah, tell me, tell me how many
people brush twice a day? Is it like eighty seventy
five percent? And they like, no, we think it's closer
to fifty if less than that. I thought that was
shocking to mean, Terry, but I guess more and more
people are so distracted by their phones.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
They can't even brush their teeth before they go to
buch it.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Get up in the morning. Your breath stinks, you know,
smells horrible. So you're gonna brush your teeth and then
before How do you sleep with a dirty.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't know. They said you would.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
They would rather you see you brush your teeth at
the end of the day, so the food all that
doesn't sit on your teeth overnight like that. So that
is just what you learn when you go to the
dentist every now and then, and if you choose chocolate.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Just to know that we're all judging out here. I
am five.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Two two six five six six five six A few
of the text you'd like to join the show. We'll
talk more with Terry Miners about all things radio, maybe
a little Vince Meyrow and his k text messages to
deputy athletic directors. Don't text me K. We'll take a
break and be right back here on the KOs.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
I appreciate it, okay, I said too. Man Billy Rutley
Chuck Sports took seven nine day.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Welcome back this Tuesday edition of the show. Before the show,
it's Billy Rutledge and Terry Miners going down old memory
Lane during the break talking about COVID doing the show
at the kitchen table. I posted a photo of us
at the infield of the Kentucky Derby back in twenty eighteen.
It was my first time really getting to work with you, Terry.
I think it was the wettest Derby of all.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Time that you was miserable.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
But the COVID time where I had to do my
show on the dining room table was such an annoyance
to my family because you're always yapping up there. Well,
I had to do it at the dining room table,
which is just inside the front door off the foyer,
because I didn't want people invading the rest of my house.
I got, I got kids, you know, we're trying to
live our lives.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
And I'd be.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Interviewing Billy Rutledge and the next guest would arrive at
my front door. So I'd get up from the table
and then walk over with a long cord on my
headset and then I put my finger up to my
lips to the person walking in the house because Billy
Rutledge was over there answering a question, and I would
just motion them in and point to a seat for them,
and then you finished your answer, and I'd say, oh,

(14:42):
that's cool, Billy, And I mean it was so weird.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
I like how you had guests coming to the front door,
you know, coming in, Uh right, uh you know? And
three is I mean, my dog would not be able
to do three to six afternoons.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
I'd come. I had a tough time with a toe.
But I never bought into the whole spray down the
pizza books. It's like, all right, we're doing it now, groceries. Yeah,
I need some pizza and I'm not gonna spray antiseptic
all over the box. I'm eating the pizza if I die.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
It was worth it.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
So forty plus years in radio terry, you've got to
be along with the cast of characters. In radio you
get to meet a lot of those, and mainly a
couple of them that are still with us, guys like
Tony Venetti and Matt Jones and helped me a lot.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
How did you see those guys grow? I love Matt.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
He is you know when he first contacted me, I
don't know, years ago, and he's he's he talked, he's
talked about it publicly before where he said he took
a shot at me or something and I fired back
something else or what it was, and he said, I
immediately like this guy. Well, I like Matt. I saw
his future ahead of him. He's smart, and he's engaging,

(15:46):
and he stands his ground on things, and so that's
a that's a he's a rare catch. When I heard
Matt on the air the first time, I thought, this
guy's going places.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Vanetti.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
I've known a little bit longer, just from circles around,
you know, and radio, and he is, there's something wrong.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
I was looking for the words that you were going
to put together there to say that, but you.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Did it right.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
I don't know if his dad popped him upside the
head once, or his mom was carrying him through the
house and hit his head in the doorway or something,
but something's wiggling incorrectly in his brain.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
And he said the same rock radio days in the
past for him, a lot of stories he can't tell
on the air.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
That's true because we got spoiled by all kinds of things.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
But it still happens.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
I mean, a couple of years ago, Kiss played Louder
than Life and someone contacted me and said, hey could
you take the manager of Kiss to play Valhalla. I
was like, yeah, okay, And so we go out there
and play and have a great time. And I really
liked the guy, and we have lunch and he says,
you want to come to the shoulder line and I'm like, yeah,
not really. I don't want to hurt your feelings. But

(16:52):
I texted my wife said we want to go to
the Kiss show tonight. She goes, so, I don't know,
let me check with my brother. He loves them, and
he's like fifty seven years or whatever, and he loved
them back in the day. So she said, let's go.
So I tell the guy, yeah, that'd degredy. He goes,
I'll set you up. Well, you know, we're louder than life. Yes,
in that huge stage. The directions they gave me, I

(17:13):
want the public to know this too. Some people just
live a way that I don't even understand. I apparently
this manager put my name on some lists because I
was allowed to drive down Phillip's Lane where no other
cars were, and then I get to a point and
a guy looks at the clipboard and he goes, oh, yeah,
you come on in. They open a gate right near

(17:34):
the stage and I pull my car in there, and
then they pull us right over here and there's people
all around and somebody's guiding us in and they park
my car next to Kisses SUV. Come on, I mean, seriously,
that's all for taking a guy to play golf. Next thing,
you know, you guys want to meet Kiss of course.

(17:57):
So that's how that day turned out. And then they
took us right out and down that little center aisle
you know where people move through, and took us to
the you know, it wasn't it's center stage, but it's
where the first production team is with the mixing board.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
And we watched them and it was phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
But it's like sometimes you just luck into something like that,
and it's like that's the great thing about radio. Certain
things happen like that, just out of thin air, and
the next thing you know, you have a lifetime memory
experience that you never anticipated.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I've gotten very lucky to attend a lot of those things.
Have it not parked next to the Kiss truck. But
you know, Shannon, the dudes out there pretty much running
louder than life and Bourbon beyond, and that opportunity presents
itself the thousands.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Of people that go there, and all the logistics to
get near the stage, all you have to go through,
and they just let me just drive right down the
street and park next to their vehicles.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
So my business gets done on the golf course, Terry,
It's take somebody Valhalla. They'll get you at the Kiss show.
Good to know you mentioned your brother. Is it correct
that you have fourteen brothers and sisters?

Speaker 3 (18:58):
I am one of fourteen, one of fourte I have
six brothers and seven sisters. We all love each other.
We stay on the same text thread all the time,
and everybody throws in what's going on in their life,
and so we're always updated. Even though sometimes I might
be interviewing somebody on the radio and it's a serious
intense conversation because something tragic's happened or whatever, and my

(19:20):
phone's over here going group chat's going, and it'll be
somebody talking about I bake this cake and I want
everybody you know.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
So sometimes, I mean, my phone's always silenced, but sometimes
you know that that kind of works against me.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
But do you love it like it's a big family,
Like I've always heard that's how you're rich is, you know,
having a big family, But is it tough to have
a personal connection with everyone?

Speaker 3 (19:40):
No, I mean in the age spread is twenty years.
But right now we are working on a book for
the family. Oh I love that fourteen chapters. Chapter five
is called Terry, chapter six will be Dutch, chapter seven
will be great Idea. And that's all we're doing. We're
just telling whatever we want to tell in the story.
I've already written mine in someb so we're going to

(20:01):
give it. We're having a family reunion next year that
we're a Oh, well, God, bless your mother. I mean,
she must have been exhausted. I mean my parents, I
don't know how they did what they did.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
I see, you know.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
I mean, obviously I've raised kids and I know what
life costs. I don't know how my parents did that.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Now.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
It's mind boggling to think. We lived in Germantown in Louisville.
That's Texas Avenue and Milton was the street there. I've
been there. A woman walked up to me at a
baseball game one day and she says, I have your
childhood home.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I'm the owner. I'm like, how many people living there
with you? She said?

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Just me, and I'm like, oh my god. When I
lived in there, there were ten kids and two parents,
twelve people in a house.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
She has to herself, Oh wow, that's that's incredible, and
she probably feels a little closed in it's that small.
Then we moved a few miles away and suddenly we
had one, two, three bathrooms. Three bathrooms for sixteen people. Yes,
but well by that time the old somebody had moved
to college. But still it was a lot of people.

(21:01):
And then neighbors came and went, and the sad lows
next door. Our homes were interchangeable. You would just go
in and out of each other's homes without knocking. We
were all welcoming each other's home. Instead of making people
get up and answer the door all day. You just
walked in and you went and found the person you needed. Wow,
that's how close our families are.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
I love that, Terry.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I mean that is that is such a special relationship
you can.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Share with us.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
I don't know how people did it back in the
day because there were other huge families, so God bless
them all. It's amazing thing. And the dozens. Yeah, I
love all my brothers and sisters. We're all doing great.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Terry Miners is our guest here on the KSR Pre Show.
Terry's on WHAS from three to six every weekday.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
I'm sure you've heard.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
We need to take a break, though, we'll come back
and get to more here on the show. It is
the KSR and Pre Show Billy Rutledge here without Shannon
the Dude. Terry Miners is our guest. Forty years in
Louisville Radio. We'd be celebrating fifty total next year.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Terry got a.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Question from the text line five O two two six
five six six five six. South Side Chuck checks in
and says he knows you play golf, Terry, so he'd
like to know who is the most famous and yet
funny guy Terry has played golf with, and any golf
stories he'd like to share.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
So thank you south Side Chuck. That's a great question
because I've been lucky enough to play with a lot
of really funny characters and.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Over the years.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
I you know, basically the coaches that have been out
there with I like seeing them in their natural environment
where they're they're not they don't have microphones in their faces.
One of my favorite people to play golf with was
Junior Bridgeman miss him just a kind, thoughtful person. We

(22:45):
walked the hills many times, and that loss was devastating
to me. So I wanted to mention that first and foremost,
that is the most impactful golf partner I've ever had,
because he's done so much to raise up people's lives,
not only here in Kentucky, but really around America. At
his funeral, people got up and told stories that were

(23:07):
astounding how he improved their lives. And so you know,
when you meet people like that in life, and then
you just try to be like them, a little bit
more like them, all the boats rise.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Well, yeah, we talked the best of the best.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
We talked about business getting done on the golf course,
and no better businessman than him.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Right.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Well, one day I drove out of Valhalla and drove
down Shelbyville Road and went to Wendy's and ordered on
the board the menu board, and then drove around to
the drive through. The door opens, it's Junior Bridgeman handing
me my food.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
I said, what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (23:42):
He goes, He goes, you can't run a business if
you don't understand every position.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
That lead from the front right. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
I mean I thought, wow, that's kind of brilliant. But
he's so humble and so good and such a such
a thoughtful booster of other people's lives. When I went
into shock almost I had to go home and go
to bed when I heard that Junior had passed away
because I didn't want to believe it. A reporter had

(24:10):
to confirm it with me that it was because I
thought they were trying to save him in the hospital.
I guess deluded myself for several hours that they were
going to save him. And then a reporter started using
past tense talking to me because I'd already answered her
questions in present tense, and then she started saying he

(24:30):
was this, and I was like, no, no, and I
told him stop, give me a second and reset on this.
And so that was horrible revisit. But I appreciate the
question Southside Chuck, But I wanted to mention Junior because
he is the most impactful person I've ever met, and
I got to spend so much time with him on
the golf course, which wasn't wasted. But yeah, I've been

(24:53):
out with a lot of funny people at times, people who.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Just I don't know, they just make you laugh. Well,
you mentioned Junior. He's a pillar of the community, there
is no doubt. And speaking of people that meant a
lot to this city of Louisville, Kentucky is Tom Jurich.
Recently he was honored with part of Foyd Street being
renamed in his honor, and that led me to see
Terry Miner's picture of his own street that he posted

(25:19):
on Instagram the other day. Terry Miner's Alley. What's the
story behind this?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I turned forty.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Jerry Abramson was mayor of Louisville, and he wanted to
prank me a little bit because they had the station
had a little party for me, and the Abrams's said,
I got a little treat for you, and so we
came outside, we got the remote mic and came outside
the Whas building over here a few blocks away, and
he said, look, we've renamed this alley just for you.

(25:47):
And he had street signs made one at each end
of this alice, filthy, disgusting alley that had broken glass
and wasted other hygienic products that were on the ground,
and it was just hilarious. He's like, happy Birthday, and
he goes and it's not real either. Those are just
signs that's not really named after you because we wouldn't

(26:10):
go that deep. I laughed myself silly over that, but
I got to keep the sign, so that's what I
posted on him.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
I like that Terry Miners Alley, even though there's a couple.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Of needles on the ground over there in the alley. Yep,
you know.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
That's kind of how I feel a little bit about
when the Mayor of Lexington, Linda Gordon, gave Shannon the
Dude his own day. He did the fifty mile walk.
He got his own day in Lexington. It's a holiday, Terry.
I'm like, come on, guy just walked fifty miles. I'm
impressed by Shannon the Dude. I see him frequently as
he's walking out and I'm walking in this building, and
he's always got a sunny attitude.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I like that about it.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Oh well, sometimes that comes on the air, sometimes it doesn't.
But I will give him a lot of credit. Hopefully
he doesn't hear him say this, but he does a
very good job at a lot of things, Like he's
multitasking a lot of different jobs in the morning, So
I will give him credit.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
There yeah, and I saw mad a couple of days ago.
He came.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
We had a nice chat in my studio down the
other hall, and it's just nice. I like interacting with
everybody because you learn a little something about what's going on.
I love Matt Jones's mom too. She's oh Karen.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Unfortunately, her name has become synonymous with people yelling at.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Couple some other friends named Karen. I feel sorry for
them because of that. That name has been just captured
for the wrong reason.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Well, speaking of like people coming into the studio and
you know, being able to interview people face to face,
this is a bit of a selfish pursuit. But at
one point you had Jennifer Lawrence in the studio. Is
that ever possible, Terry? Do you think you could ever
interview her again in studio?

Speaker 3 (27:32):
I don't know if I talk to her in studio,
but she's doing wonderfully. She's delightful and I've known her
since she was a kid, Yeah, from Louisville, right, and
she's just again, a very funny person who just looks
at things through a different kind of a lens. And
she knew what she wanted when she was ten twelve

(27:55):
years old. I mean she knew, and so her mom
and dad kind of just made sure the path was open,
like they did for their two other kids, their sons.
And so that's a great family. And of course Gary
and Karen Lawrence are some of my dearest friends.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
We hang out a lot. Oh so you know the family,
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
They have for a long time, and they're they're just
quality people and they don't they don't favor their superstar
daughter any more than they do the two sons. It's
great everybody's everybody is of equal value and I like that.
But Jennifer is is uh superstar. I mean I feel

(28:34):
sorry for her because it's the pressure of all this,
you know, people wanting to take your picture all the time,
blah blah blah blah blah, just all and trying to
you know, climb the wall to your people want your
phone numbers, trying to creep. It's astounding. But she has
a film coming out. I think it was just featured
at con in France. It's Dye My Darling or something

(28:59):
like that. Anyway, it's a one dealing with postpartum depression.
And a lot of people are saying this thing is
really might get some Oscar noise.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Serious topic. Yeah, but she doesn't shy away from these
no no So anyway, she's done wonderfully. She's an amazing
person and it's funny. And I think one of the
things that I put on the fifty Years of Terry
Muners Bits is a Jennifer interview I did back right
when she was just starting to pop, and I remember
asking her, so, if you met any celebrities, and she said,

(29:29):
Jody Foster texted me and we met at Starbucks and
she was so excited. Well, now she was so happy
to start meeting some celebrities and now she's bigger than
all of them. Yeah, but that is a different level
of fame. Like what you're talking about ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
It's a pressure that most people would collapse under it.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
I wouldn't wish that upon anybody. Like I see the
paparazzi following people around, and I think of the mental
health of these people.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
It's simply incredible. Yeah, Jen and her husband want to
be parents too. They've got two kids and they're beautiful,
and so they want their real life too. It's just
that's that's a weird thing that people get attached to
to really popular celebrities at that level, because they just
want to They want to go to the grocery store.

(30:16):
If they can't, sure, they just can't do it. Can
you go to the grocery store? Cat people swarming grocery store.
People do talk to me a lot in there, and
they're they're kind. You know a lot of people and
they remember something or other, this or that, or they'll
say this or that, or you help me with this.
And this time of year, a lot of people will
mention the Crusade for children to me, which is really

(30:37):
the most important thing in my career. We just raised
five point eight nine million for children with identified needs,
that's the term we use now. And it's helping people
all throughout Kentucky and up through like Indianapolis and Indiana.
It's halfway up Indiana because wherever the money is generated,
it goes.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Back to those areas. And I love that.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
I love when people stop me and tell me something
about the crusade, help them this that or whatever. And
occasionally someone could come up and say, I love your
brother Paul. I know your brother Paul, and he was
so funny in school and he told the teacher this,
and I go, oh, Paul's doing great. He lives in Bermuda,
He's got four kids. But there is no Paul. I
don't want to, but it's faster to just say, you know,

(31:20):
he's doing great and then move on.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
They're searching through the names of your brothers and sisters.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
The other thing that comes up when people Google search
me Now, I think the number one question is Addie
Miners Terry's daughter.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Oh, that's my brother's daughter. She's doing wonderfully.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
She's a reporter on WLKY and people mentioned Addie Minors
to me more than just about anything, and that's awesome.
I'm so proud of her. She was at Sacred Heart
Academy sent me a little video of her doing the
morning news and school and I said, you're really good
at this, Eddie. Know how to address the camera and
look at your co anchor. Blah blah blah. Bah's in
her blood right. And then next thing you know, she's
at UK and then I go over to the football

(31:58):
game and they give her a microphone. She's staying in
the middle of Kroger Field going okay, now we're gonna
give away with such a I thought that's pretty bold
for an eighteen nineteen year old to be standing there
talking to sixty five thousand people.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
It is an awesome thing you do with the Crusade
for Children. I got to be a part of it
doing an overnight shift. I think I worked midnight to
noon that night, Terry, just when I was a part
time board op at Louisville and you were the host.
So I want to commend you for everything that you
do there.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
It's the most important thing we do with our lives
is lift other people up.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I couldn't have sent it better.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah, no matter what you do and whatever realm you're in,
if you do something, if it means making soup for
a neighbor and going over and checking on her because
she's lonely, or he's had an operation and he can't,
you know, get around as well, you just take over
some soup and crackers to somebody and say, hey, just
want to make sure you're okay. This is the best
thing you can do in the world. Cost you a

(32:50):
dollar fifty and you make somebody happy for the next
ten years thinking about you do.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
And probably something we see less and last self nowadays
hurt shout out on social media.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Everybody's got a neighbor and everybody can make a bowl
of soup, won't you be my.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Neighbor's Harry Miners joining me here on the KSR pre Show.
I got a few more things I want to talk
to with Terry, but we need to take our final
break here on the KSR pre Show, so we will
do that now and we will be right back.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
You're listening to the KSR pre Show with Sheddon the
Dude and Billy Rutlanch on Sports Talk seventh Night.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yey, welcome back.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
It's our final segment of the KSR pre Show today
on a Tuesday. Big thank you to Terry Miners, who
has joined us throughout the show. You can listen to
Terry every weekday from A three to six on news
Radio A forty whas where our friend Nick Coffee just
went over to join.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
He's doing five to nine. Though, Terry, that's a that's
a different animal, isn't it right.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
He's been the afternoon guy in this very studio where
you and I are today, and I think he probably
misses it sometimes just because he hadn't had any sleep
since he took that time.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
That's okay, Yeah, I'm hoping he's take it takes a
nap throughout the day pursuit.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
It's fun to be part of broadcasting because you are
you know, you're you're reaching out and you're you're helping
a lot of folks. When I was on in Lexington,
one of the first eye opening things that happened to
me was I got an envelope at w k QQ
somebody mailed from the women's prison. Is that in mid midway.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
A midway it is somewhere somewhere, I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
She she drew a picture of a radio on a
stand and said, that's what you look like to me.
I was like, wow, I never thought about that. How
interesting that is that you reach out, you come out
of a box, and people hear you and they have
an idea. You know, that's that's what you mean to them,
but they just wait for you because they're used to

(34:43):
the regularity of hearing that same person.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
I mean, we'll go out in the state for KSR
and people will introduce themselves to me. That one they'll
say you don't look like how you sound, which I
don't know how to take that. Is it a compliment
or a disc But the second thing they say is,
you know they treat you there you're one of their friends,
like they're you're a family member to them. And it's
a really special relationship that I'm able to share with
people that I've only met maybe once, but they've been

(35:09):
listening to me for years.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
At this point, well, I've had more than once women
come up to me in public places and say, and
I know they're being there trying to make time, and
they'll say, you're a lot better looking in person than
you are on TV. What am I supposed to do
with that? See, I don't like TV, but you know,

(35:31):
you seem normal in person.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
So we've gotten some submissions over the last couple of
minutes or so. This one comes from Corey Price of
a young Terry Miners.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Wearing no sauce in here. I don't know where that's from,
but that is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Corey will find the photo that you don't think exists.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
They look like an absolute lunatic in that photo with
that big wide tie.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
We get kind of similar hair in this photo. And
then what I got right now, maybe yours is a
little longer. And then I had lex TV and Radio
DM me some photos of you from back in the
day in Lexington.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
That's me on the board at WKQQ.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
And people think in that one where I'm wearing the
fog hats, they think that that's an iPad in my am. Well,
I gotta assure you that's not, because that's nineteen seventy
seven or somewhere around there.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
You got the mustache rocking here and the chest hairs
out too.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
My hat says fog and it was sent to us
by the record company that pumped out fog hat.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
That's the joke. Okay, I got you.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Now, I love it and these are great photos and
big thank you to send people that have sent that
in that it brings back some memories, doesn't.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
It appreciate it. But you know, our team here, I
just relish it every day. There's Marios Mario and Mario Mario,
you're on tomorrow looking forward to it. He's a great guy.
We just keep finding new talent and people who are
bringing fresh ideas in the building. And to me, that's
what I thrive on. That's like fertilizer on the plant, and.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
We need like five Marios in here do. The video
content he produces is engaging. I think it brings in
a different audience. He has done a great job in
his short time.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
I tell people all the time, I think Mario will
be the chairman of this company in about five years.
Give them some time. He's smart, creative, and talented. It's
all good combinations.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
So what advice would you give to me, Terry, I
was a young professional.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Or it has been great?

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I mean, I've watched your career grow. It's it's just
you know, you bring enthusiasm. That's the whole goal. But
no matter what kind of job you do, whoever it is,
that's listening to us. Wherever you go and work, be
positive with people. No one grows from someone who says
I don't lack working here. I wish we did this

(37:36):
the way we used to. That kind of thing. It
doesn't matter. Today is July first, twenty twenty five, and
life is always changing, ever changing. You have to embrace
change and run with it and celebrate each moment as
it arrives in life, because that's how you grow in life.

(37:56):
It's by being open to hearing new things and then
embracing the fact that you're moving forward. Nobody can just
plan a flag. I still wish it was nineteen eighty
nine or what it was like. Why right but you
know the reality is the clock is never denied. It's
going to keep ticking, So savor every second of every day.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Well, father times undefeated, You're right there. You know, Embracing
change is something I wish I could say I'm better
at terry. I think that we could all probably be
a little better at embracing change and finding that positive attitude.
You know, it's easy for me to say, oh, I
don't want to do this today, right or I don't
want to work with this person, but I like what
you're saying about the positivity being infections.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
You got to pay your rent, So if you go
to work, go and be a positive spark for the
other people that are around. It's always good to discreet
people how you doing, Stop and ask someone how you
know how things are going, because you may know that
somebody's kid was.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Sick or whatever.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Ask him every now and then, how's your son or
whatever it happens to be, because you're you're investing in
somebody else's mental health by just checking on them to
make sure they're okay. Believe me, I've been up and
I've been down in my life too, and people have
rescued me before in moments just totally out of my

(39:16):
blind side, and boom, there'll be a note sitting there,
or somebody will text or something or other than just
check on you, and you're like, wow, it matters. That's
why we're all put on this earth. I always tell
people the same thing. We're put on this earth to
pull each other along. If you're in a mud hole,
I'm going to pull you out. I'm going to do

(39:37):
my best to pull you out. Someday I'll be in
a mud hole. Somebody will pull me out. That's just
the way I feel about it. Are you taking notes Mario?

Speaker 1 (39:44):
I mean, he's spitting fire over here about some great advice.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
It's my philosophy of life and the most important thing
that I always say this around holidays. If you have
a problem with somebody in your family or it's a
friend or somebody, and you know, hey, how's your best buddy, Jimmy.
Oh we don't like each other anymore? He said, bah
bah bah, And I said this, Let it go. Go
send them a text today and say I still love

(40:11):
you and I hope you're doing well.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Don't know.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Follow it up with but you shouldn't have said that
about whatever. Leave that part out. I love you and
I we're friends forever. I hope you're doing well. Just
leave it go. If they decide they don't want to
answer it, that's on them. But you've done your part.
And so when families say, well, I'm not going home
to Thanksgiving because my sister said no, don't do that.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Men defence.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Life is a finite window and for you to leave
here with something unsettled like that is horrible.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
It's great advice and these small acts of kindness. Just
clean it up.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Just clean it up with somebody that you've gotten sideways with.
It's worth it. It's worth it to just reach out.
Terry's been a pleasure. Thank you so much for going.
I'd love to do it again sometime. And we got
to go on the golf course still Terry, my man,
we still got it.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
And you get me backstage at the Kiss concert. Now
you're asking the wrong guy. We'll get chatting back for that.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Terry Miners has been our guest three to six every
weekday on w h A S. I'm Billy Rutledge. Mario
is gonna be my guest tomorrow, so we're looking forward
to that. For Terry Miners, I'm Billy Rutledge kazar As Next.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
We'll talk to you tomorrow
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