August 9, 2024 • 13 mins
Paul Miles is celebrating his 32nd anniversary at NewsRadio 840 WHAS. We talk about some of the highlights and what we learned along the way from some of his famous cowrokers...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They're now going to fire Paul Miles.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You know why, Ian, Why.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Is that it's his anniversary.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Managed to avoid a lot of firings in my career.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
You show up on every Friday. I do too.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I do.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Yeah, never know, still jump out of bed like a
kid going fishing.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Here's what I tell them every year when you have
your annual thing or whatever they want to talk to
you about. Hey, here's how we're doing. Blah blah blah blah.
And I always say, I've already won the war. So
if you guys kill me off, I've already won.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah. So you're saying the bosses talk to you.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
They avoid the rest of us occasionally.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
How many years you got here? Thirty nine?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I am in, Yes, you're in thirty nine. I'm in.
I'm rolling into my I'm in my fortieth year. I've
got you leaded thirty nine. Okay, so I got thirty two. Yeah.
So when you rolled in here, what ninetyty two, I
was already pretty well established.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
You were quite famous.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, that's what they told me to stay away from
that Miners guy. He doesn't like the new kids. It
can be kind of into. He can be kind of intimidating.
No one said that. Did my first newscast on the
Milton met show Boy, Was I nervous? Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I bet you were.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I mean I remember my first day when I actually
technically came on the air, when I pushed my own
microphone on, was on December second. I had in a
six month no compete, but I came here in July
of eighty five, so I had time to prep up
do all these things. They had a contest, had me
come work for people, do all that. But you just
walked in from where.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I'd done some a couple of years of public radio
in Lexington and in Louisville before I came here.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And so then when you came over the first time
you cracked the mic open, it to me was intimidating.
Just the sound of it exactly. It's like processing on
this station. It's like, oh my, I was on KQQ
and Lexington and then RS and then QMF, and they
all had their own sounds. That's the cool thing about
being in radio. And you know this too from being
(02:06):
on various stations. You crack the mic and you hear
your voice come back in the headset. The first time
you're live It's different than being in a studio where
you record something.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Absolutely it is, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I mean, but there was something about whas when I
turned on the mic and I could just hear it,
and I was like, whoa, this is real.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Everybody sibilants sibilings. So you had to do a newscast
on Milton Metz's What was he doing? Even he was doing?
Yeah it was the night nine to midnight? And so
was it the nine pm news?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I don't remember. I think I'm sure it was. Yeah, So,
and he was Milton was the kindest guy. I mean
he treated everybody. There was such respect. Every everybody loved him.
He loved everybody. Yeah, he called me Gary a few times.
Oh Gary, Oh that's Burbank. He was here few years ago.
Burbank was gone five years before I got here. Milton
(03:04):
loved him. They smoked a little pot together. Oh wait
did I say that out loud? And I still talked
to Burbank. So are you connected to certain people that
you worked with?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Then? Who are that you will occasionally exchange texts or
something with?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Goodness, everybody's moved on to other things. I mean, I
still see you know, there's a couple of people. I
still work with you, Norman in the sales department. I
still see a few people who are working in the
TV side. We were in the same building. Act then
I still see them on an occasional basis out on stories.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, I mean that's fun to just stay connected to folks.
And then like yesterday or I think it was the
day before, actually, I talked to Dominique Yates, who's like
one of the younger people coming up, and he's he's
taken a job now Wisconsin. He's going to be the
Packers reporter. And I just posted that on social little
while ago. But it's just I love all the different
people I've known from the various eras, but the new
(04:06):
people coming in, I've always tried to shepherd them a
little bit and do this that whatever we have. Joe
Lincoln and news now and I like talking to him
about this. I was just talking to him about the
Fiesta Bowl a little while ago, because they need to know,
you know, certain touch points in time because you can
back reference them for cirta.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Oh yeah, the Fiesta Bowl happened before he was born, right,
so yeah, and he's like he immediately looked it up
I like his curiosity.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And he's like, oh yeah, and he said Browning. Nicholas said,
oh that's right. We had a time of it that day.
He does have a good curiosity. Ends the same way
I like people like that. You mentioned something to him
about hey, you give him a fact, or you ask
about the factor, immediately go to Google, let's look it up,
let's let's.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Go find it.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Mine's because I just don't want to be wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I'm wrong all the time, and I'm just like, okay,
well whatever, and when we fix it right away, you
step up to the bar and go okay, well it
was nineteen eighty seven or whatever. Anyway, so Miles, when
you walk through the door at HM, I was intimidated
when I walked in. I'd had a great career already,
Ron Clay and I had done some very successful shows.
(05:15):
But I just felt like I knew the afternoon job
was coming open, and I felt like, I'm twenty eight.
I need to grow up, you know. I was on
a kind of a childish morning show, you know what
I mean. It's just like, okay, how many times you
can tell that joke? And then but then you had
(05:37):
to segue and you still had to hold on to
some of what you'd built and then open new avenues,
and you have to evolve over the run, this kind
of run you and I are on career wise, how
do you feel like you're different now than you were
the day you walked in wet behind your ears?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
You know, I felt like I needed to grow up
too when I walked in the original building at sixth
and Chestnut in nineteen ninety two. Because I was walking
into a newsroom with a ton of veterans, the John Ashers,
Brian Rublin, Mary Jeffries. There at the time, there were
three peabodies hanging on the wall Peabody Awards. I still
(06:17):
have my ID from the day I started. I wore
a tie that day. Okay, so did I because because Brian,
the news director at the time, was wearing a tie
and I thought I should wear a tight Yeah. You
don't see that very often anymore in this business. It says,
AM stereo two.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh, that is awesome, that is awesome. I have my
original whatever it was. I had to go down to
the Courier Journal and they took my picture and did
all that stuff, and you know, you had to go
down there and sign all the papers and do all
that business. And I thought this has grown up. And
I also remember thinking, oh, now I work for the
Bingham Media Company. They'll be here my whole life. This
(06:57):
will be rock steady. And within a year and a
half we're so that you did. Oh that's true. But
it is funny how you move through various phases, and
really people can relate to this and whatever career they're in,
how you your worldview keeps, you know, re setting, rebooting
(07:21):
or else your your dad. You if you sit there
like a weed and you won't move and learn, Oh yeah,
especially in this business. I mean, you have to go
with the time. You have to be able to adjust
to all the technology trainings. When we when we started,
when I started U, we were still using cassettes.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Reel to reels.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
We were slicing, uh tape to put cuts together, to
put wraps together for the newscast.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
That's all gone, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I can remember the day that they switched us from
tape to digital and that was a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
We all freaked out. Yeah, because it's because it's breaking
up your system. But that's okay. It's just about your
brain and your heart. And this is for anybody in
any career. You have to evolve or you die. Absolutely,
and a lot of people you know that they're resistant
to any change. That's not the way we've done it before.
(08:15):
It's like, well that doesn't matter. You know, whatever you've built,
you know, at the end of work yesterday is old news.
We're coming in and making a fresh batch of bread
every day. You really have to do that, no matter
what your career is. You can't just keep spinning that
wheel the same way over and over again.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
The best part about this career, I think you guys
would agree, is we meet so many different people in
this world and learn so many different things.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It's educational.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I learned something new every day when I come to
work because you're interviewing people about subjects that you know
nothing about. You're asking people, tell me all about this,
what's your expertise?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Tell me?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You learn so much and you meet so many different
kinds to people. It's really a lot of it, from
all walks of life.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
To me. You hear all kinds of stories, and I
do I know a million things about a million different subjects,
but only fimble deep, right, You know, you know dixie
Cup deep, because you're only with somebody for forty five minutes.
But you retain some of that information. Can I carve
a block of ice? No? But I did that on
(09:24):
TV with a guy for a while and he taught
me a little bit. So I have a basic idea,
you know, And that's all good. It's They're just the
learning blocks of life in whatever career you're doing. So anyway,
congratulations on your thirty two years.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Appreciate him, And I too, am mindful of the great
people that were here when I came in, and a
lot of them are gone.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I think about Kwood. I was on the roof of
Churchill Downs, and you know, I thought, oh my god,
I work at HAS. I'm standing next to Kaywood Ledford
on the roof of Churchill Downs. The Derby's going to
happen about twenty min minutes or so. When they were
getting ready to do the post parade thing. He's up
there looking through his binoculars looking around. I thought, he
(10:07):
knows everything about all this stuff, and this is so great.
I'm going to such a great learning environment. I said, Kaywood,
what do you think about this? This Di Sturby lineup?
He never took the glasses off of his eyes and
he said, all hell, Terry, I don't know anything about horses.
I'm just looking for my car. And he was like,
(10:27):
you meet the greatest people in this business. And clearly
he knew a lot about horses, but that's just his personality.
So it was just fun. And that's when I knew
I belonged because when Kywood Ledford acknowledged me, it's like, wow, yeah,
I guess I'm in. So those are great moments in
your career and obviously you never forget it. That was
(10:47):
you know, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Know the first eight years ago.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
The very first day that I started, in August of
nineteen ninety two, I went and got the ID, made
filled out the paperwork, and the John Asher, who was
in the newsroom at the time, said okay, let's go.
After the paperwork was finished, let's go. Paul and I
thought we were going to go cover our first story,
and he took me down to the Chinese buffet down
on It's time.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It was on I think East Market Street. He bought
me lunch. I said, this is this is cool.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Chuck Olmstead taught a lot of us something else too.
If you would go out and learn with Olmsted on
a news story. Sometimes he'd go out. He'd talk to
people in a tough situation, whatever record do this that,
ask questions. If someone a photojournalist or a shooter would
be there with him, you know, to capture it all
on camera, and then you get back in that truck
(11:35):
and come back, and he'd tell them swing over there.
He'd go to Churchill Downs and make some bets. Editor.
So I always wondered if while Olmsted is talking to
someone about an important news story, is he thinking in
his mind? I got to put on Running rev in
(11:57):
the sixth Look what time it is there? Running the
fifth Dace just stud you know, I mean, just the
characters that we've had in our lives, you know, grizzled
news reporters, people who knew a lot of stuff. And
we just learned from One of those is coming in
next week. By the way, his name's Bob Hill. I
(12:19):
just read his new book. It's phenomenal. It's not coming
out until January, but he sent me a preview copy,
and so we're going to get on and talk about
life in general next week. What are these I think?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
He said? Wednesday? Whatever?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I put her on the schedule. But those are those
people that just pass information down. The next generation comes
in and they stay if they can or want to,
and then they pass it along and pass along. That's
the beauty of life in whatever capacity, is what you
learn from the people who've already walked the path ahead
of you. And see, now you're pretty far down the path,
(12:53):
so you're the smart guy now, Miles.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I need to pass it along, that's right.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah. Anyway, congratulations, you do great, Carton appreciate it.
They're now going to fire Paul Miles.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You know why, Ian, Why.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Is that it's his anniversary.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Managed to avoid a lot of firings in my career.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
You show up on every Friday. I do too.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I do.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Yeah, never know, still jump out of bed like a
kid going fishing.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Here's what I tell them every year when you have
your annual thing or whatever they want to talk to
you about. Hey, here's how we're doing. Blah blah blah blah.
And I always say, I've already won the war. So
if you guys kill me off, I've already won.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah. So you're saying the bosses talk to you.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
They avoid the rest of us occasionally.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
How many years you got here? Thirty nine?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I am in, Yes, you're in thirty nine. I'm in.
I'm rolling into my I'm in my fortieth year. I've
got you leaded thirty nine. Okay, so I got thirty two. Yeah.
So when you rolled in here, what ninetyty two, I
was already pretty well established.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
You were quite famous.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, that's what they told me to stay away from
that Miners guy. He doesn't like the new kids. It
can be kind of into. He can be kind of intimidating.
No one said that. Did my first newscast on the
Milton met show Boy, Was I nervous? Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I bet you were.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I mean I remember my first day when I actually
technically came on the air, when I pushed my own
microphone on, was on December second. I had in a
six month no compete, but I came here in July
of eighty five, so I had time to prep up
do all these things. They had a contest, had me
come work for people, do all that. But you just
walked in from where.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I'd done some a couple of years of public radio
in Lexington and in Louisville before I came here.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And so then when you came over the first time
you cracked the mic open, it to me was intimidating.
Just the sound of it exactly. It's like processing on
this station. It's like, oh my, I was on KQQ
and Lexington and then RS and then QMF, and they
all had their own sounds. That's the cool thing about
being in radio. And you know this too from being
(02:06):
on various stations. You crack the mic and you hear
your voice come back in the headset. The first time
you're live It's different than being in a studio where
you record something.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Absolutely it is, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I mean, but there was something about whas when I
turned on the mic and I could just hear it,
and I was like, whoa, this is real.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Everybody sibilants sibilings. So you had to do a newscast
on Milton Metz's What was he doing? Even he was doing?
Yeah it was the night nine to midnight? And so
was it the nine pm news?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I don't remember. I think I'm sure it was. Yeah, So,
and he was Milton was the kindest guy. I mean
he treated everybody. There was such respect. Every everybody loved him.
He loved everybody. Yeah, he called me Gary a few times.
Oh Gary, Oh that's Burbank. He was here few years ago.
Burbank was gone five years before I got here. Milton
(03:04):
loved him. They smoked a little pot together. Oh wait
did I say that out loud? And I still talked
to Burbank. So are you connected to certain people that
you worked with?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Then? Who are that you will occasionally exchange texts or
something with?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Goodness, everybody's moved on to other things. I mean, I
still see you know, there's a couple of people. I
still work with you, Norman in the sales department. I
still see a few people who are working in the
TV side. We were in the same building. Act then
I still see them on an occasional basis out on stories.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, I mean that's fun to just stay connected to folks.
And then like yesterday or I think it was the
day before, actually, I talked to Dominique Yates, who's like
one of the younger people coming up, and he's he's
taken a job now Wisconsin. He's going to be the
Packers reporter. And I just posted that on social little
while ago. But it's just I love all the different
people I've known from the various eras, but the new
(04:06):
people coming in, I've always tried to shepherd them a
little bit and do this that whatever we have. Joe
Lincoln and news now and I like talking to him
about this. I was just talking to him about the
Fiesta Bowl a little while ago, because they need to know,
you know, certain touch points in time because you can
back reference them for cirta.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Oh yeah, the Fiesta Bowl happened before he was born, right,
so yeah, and he's like he immediately looked it up
I like his curiosity.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And he's like, oh yeah, and he said Browning. Nicholas said,
oh that's right. We had a time of it that day.
He does have a good curiosity. Ends the same way
I like people like that. You mentioned something to him
about hey, you give him a fact, or you ask
about the factor, immediately go to Google, let's look it up,
let's let's.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Go find it.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Mine's because I just don't want to be wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I'm wrong all the time, and I'm just like, okay,
well whatever, and when we fix it right away, you
step up to the bar and go okay, well it
was nineteen eighty seven or whatever. Anyway, so Miles, when
you walk through the door at HM, I was intimidated
when I walked in. I'd had a great career already,
Ron Clay and I had done some very successful shows.
(05:15):
But I just felt like I knew the afternoon job
was coming open, and I felt like, I'm twenty eight.
I need to grow up, you know. I was on
a kind of a childish morning show, you know what
I mean. It's just like, okay, how many times you
can tell that joke? And then but then you had
(05:37):
to segue and you still had to hold on to
some of what you'd built and then open new avenues,
and you have to evolve over the run, this kind
of run you and I are on career wise, how
do you feel like you're different now than you were
the day you walked in wet behind your ears?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
You know, I felt like I needed to grow up
too when I walked in the original building at sixth
and Chestnut in nineteen ninety two. Because I was walking
into a newsroom with a ton of veterans, the John Ashers,
Brian Rublin, Mary Jeffries. There at the time, there were
three peabodies hanging on the wall Peabody Awards. I still
(06:17):
have my ID from the day I started. I wore
a tie that day. Okay, so did I because because Brian,
the news director at the time, was wearing a tie
and I thought I should wear a tight Yeah. You
don't see that very often anymore in this business. It says,
AM stereo two.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh, that is awesome, that is awesome. I have my
original whatever it was. I had to go down to
the Courier Journal and they took my picture and did
all that stuff, and you know, you had to go
down there and sign all the papers and do all
that business. And I thought this has grown up. And
I also remember thinking, oh, now I work for the
Bingham Media Company. They'll be here my whole life. This
(06:57):
will be rock steady. And within a year and a
half we're so that you did. Oh that's true. But
it is funny how you move through various phases, and
really people can relate to this and whatever career they're in,
how you your worldview keeps, you know, re setting, rebooting
(07:21):
or else your your dad. You if you sit there
like a weed and you won't move and learn, Oh yeah,
especially in this business. I mean, you have to go
with the time. You have to be able to adjust
to all the technology trainings. When we when we started,
when I started U, we were still using cassettes.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Reel to reels.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
We were slicing, uh tape to put cuts together, to
put wraps together for the newscast.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
That's all gone, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I can remember the day that they switched us from
tape to digital and that was a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
We all freaked out. Yeah, because it's because it's breaking
up your system. But that's okay. It's just about your
brain and your heart. And this is for anybody in
any career. You have to evolve or you die. Absolutely,
and a lot of people you know that they're resistant
to any change. That's not the way we've done it before.
(08:15):
It's like, well that doesn't matter. You know, whatever you've built,
you know, at the end of work yesterday is old news.
We're coming in and making a fresh batch of bread
every day. You really have to do that, no matter
what your career is. You can't just keep spinning that
wheel the same way over and over again.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
The best part about this career, I think you guys
would agree, is we meet so many different people in
this world and learn so many different things.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It's educational.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I learned something new every day when I come to
work because you're interviewing people about subjects that you know
nothing about. You're asking people, tell me all about this,
what's your expertise?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Tell me?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You learn so much and you meet so many different
kinds to people. It's really a lot of it, from
all walks of life.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
To me. You hear all kinds of stories, and I
do I know a million things about a million different subjects,
but only fimble deep, right, You know, you know dixie
Cup deep, because you're only with somebody for forty five minutes.
But you retain some of that information. Can I carve
a block of ice? No? But I did that on
(09:24):
TV with a guy for a while and he taught
me a little bit. So I have a basic idea,
you know, And that's all good. It's They're just the
learning blocks of life in whatever career you're doing. So anyway,
congratulations on your thirty two years.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Appreciate him, And I too, am mindful of the great
people that were here when I came in, and a
lot of them are gone.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I think about Kwood. I was on the roof of
Churchill Downs, and you know, I thought, oh my god,
I work at HAS. I'm standing next to Kaywood Ledford
on the roof of Churchill Downs. The Derby's going to
happen about twenty min minutes or so. When they were
getting ready to do the post parade thing. He's up
there looking through his binoculars looking around. I thought, he
(10:07):
knows everything about all this stuff, and this is so great.
I'm going to such a great learning environment. I said, Kaywood,
what do you think about this? This Di Sturby lineup?
He never took the glasses off of his eyes and
he said, all hell, Terry, I don't know anything about horses.
I'm just looking for my car. And he was like,
(10:27):
you meet the greatest people in this business. And clearly
he knew a lot about horses, but that's just his personality.
So it was just fun. And that's when I knew
I belonged because when Kywood Ledford acknowledged me, it's like, wow, yeah,
I guess I'm in. So those are great moments in
your career and obviously you never forget it. That was
(10:47):
you know, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Know the first eight years ago.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
The very first day that I started, in August of
nineteen ninety two, I went and got the ID, made
filled out the paperwork, and the John Asher, who was
in the newsroom at the time, said okay, let's go.
After the paperwork was finished, let's go. Paul and I
thought we were going to go cover our first story,
and he took me down to the Chinese buffet down
on It's time.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It was on I think East Market Street. He bought
me lunch. I said, this is this is cool.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Chuck Olmstead taught a lot of us something else too.
If you would go out and learn with Olmsted on
a news story. Sometimes he'd go out. He'd talk to
people in a tough situation, whatever record do this that,
ask questions. If someone a photojournalist or a shooter would
be there with him, you know, to capture it all
on camera, and then you get back in that truck
(11:35):
and come back, and he'd tell them swing over there.
He'd go to Churchill Downs and make some bets. Editor.
So I always wondered if while Olmsted is talking to
someone about an important news story, is he thinking in
his mind? I got to put on Running rev in
(11:57):
the sixth Look what time it is there? Running the
fifth Dace just stud you know, I mean, just the
characters that we've had in our lives, you know, grizzled
news reporters, people who knew a lot of stuff. And
we just learned from One of those is coming in
next week. By the way, his name's Bob Hill. I
(12:19):
just read his new book. It's phenomenal. It's not coming
out until January, but he sent me a preview copy,
and so we're going to get on and talk about
life in general next week. What are these I think?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
He said? Wednesday? Whatever?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I put her on the schedule. But those are those
people that just pass information down. The next generation comes
in and they stay if they can or want to,
and then they pass it along and pass along. That's
the beauty of life in whatever capacity, is what you
learn from the people who've already walked the path ahead
of you. And see, now you're pretty far down the path,
(12:53):
so you're the smart guy now, Miles.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I need to pass it along, that's right.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah. Anyway, congratulations, you do great, Carton appreciate it.
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