12.4: Will Stein Has Moxie, Kelsey Loses to Calipari, Christmas Trees, and Louisville Employment

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Let's reset the show at the top of the hour.

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At top of the show, we talked about Will Stein.
He's got moxie. He's the new coach at UK for football,
and I do not know him, but he even though
I covered U L when he was there and we
both went to Trinity High School and know a lot
of the same people, I do not know him, but
he has had that sort of from my seat. He's

(00:45):
had that sort of attitude his entire life. He's aggressive.
He as an offensive coordinator, he certainly looks that way
and I think it's gotten the Kentucky fans excited. Even
though he's from Louisville and he played for Louisville. His

(01:05):
his connections really are at UK. He's a he's always
been a huge fan. His dad's got season tickets for
a hundred years. They've got He's always been a Kentucky guy,
except when he played at UFL. So I don't think
this is a real stretch for him to be the
coach there and be really into it and understand what's
what's going on there. And no one knows how well

(01:28):
he's gonna do, but he's certainly fired up and ready
to go. You know, Stoops had a lot of that
when he first got there, like he could not believe.
I remember standing in the at the stadium in Nashville
because they were playing Western Kentucky and Bobby Petrino was
coaching him, and Stoops was sitting there with his fists

(01:51):
and he was screaming. He was going, let's go. You
know we're gonna hit people, Let's go take it to him.
The entire team was just standing like they were bored
in history class. And they went out and played exactly
like that and Boby Rtrino won that game. But that aggressiveness,

(02:13):
you got to have that enthusiasm to try to go
and play in the SEC. And I think he'll bring
that to him. He's a great play caller. We know
that he's got to put a staff together that makes sense,
and it looks like They're going to give him the
money to try to build a winner. So good for him,
good for the Stein family, good for everybody involved. It's
what a change. Your life will never be the same

(02:35):
will Stein, his wife, his kids, They'll never be the same.
He's getting into waters crazy because right now, until then,
you've never been the head coach. There's a level of
stress and expectation on you when you're a coordinator. Once
you move to that head job, it is it's man,

(02:56):
it's a different universe. So good for him. Relatively young too,
that's crazy. Is he thirty six?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I don't know his exact age, but he's the youngest
head coach in the SEC, and he'll be one of
the youngest coaches in college football in general Division.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
One guarantee it, Yeah, guarantee it. The other sports storyline
is the UVL Cards. They lost again to Caliperry. I
don't know what it is about Caliperry. When he was
at Memphis and then when he was at Kentucky just
cut Louisville's number. I was at a play last night

(03:32):
and I was so glad I didn't watch the game
because it looks like it was completely unenjoyable. They outscored
him in the second half. Louisville outscored Arkansas by I
think ten in the second half. Wasn't good enough. They
lost by nine. So obviously, John, you're a math major.
That means they were down at least twenty points.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Down big time and a half.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, so Cards lose again to Caliperry. It's just like
a broken record. He's got to love it too. He's
got a wake up look at the Louisville Jersey and go, yep,
that's a w And I think most people think Kelsey
said the right things after the game, going yeah, we
don't like this, and we ain't gonna this, ain't gonna stay.
That's not his voice. I don't little why I did
that twang.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
He hasn't totally that at all.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
I know, maybe he should.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah what if he adopted that sort of access, Maybe
he should. Longer he's here, he might sound like maybe
he should. I think from my seat, we all know
they can score.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
If I were him giving the guy that makes four
million dollars advice, I just do the Rick Patino thing.
In ninety percent of practice is defense. I know you
can score. And look, I got to tell you they
run some sets. For the most part, it is it's
go go up to push the ball and make a play,
go to the basket, shoot a three. There's not a

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lot of stuff going on there. I just work on
defense because that's what we'll let them run in the
NCAA tournament. You don't go far in the NCAA tournament
if you can't to make stops, and then you've got
to be aggressive on the boards. You just when they
out rebounded Kentucky by a lot, they know they're we

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know you can run and play. We get that. You
got one of the best freshmen in the country. You've
got three other scorers that are veterans that can can
create their own shot. You've got big guys that can play.
So just figure it out. It's so early in the
season now. I did not see it because I went
to Actors Theater last night. They brought back a Christmas

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Carol for the first time in six years. We've talked
about it the last couple of years, and we really
could not believe why they got rid of it. It's
under new management, by the way, the old management sort
of ran the place into the ground. They lost money
for the first time in fifteen years or so from

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a Louisville Business first article. I read a couple of
months ago that they lost money for the first time
the last two years. And this is all because a
part of it was a Christmas Carol was canceled six
years ago because literally canceled because it wasn't their words,
not mine diverse enough. Well they reversed on that and

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last night we went took my mom and my wife.
We went downtown. Couldn't believe how many people were downtown.
By the way, it is freezing cold, it is you know,
it gets dark at like three point thirty in the
afternoon now, so we're down there, it's dark, it's we're
down there trying to find a place to eat, and
we're running around. We wanted something around Actress Theater, so
we tried to hit Bristol and it was packed. I

(06:42):
think it was half priced green chili wantons. So people
were freaking out. So we ended up going to the
Mussels and Burgers. Muscle and burger Yes, oh my, it's
a joint.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
That's a real restaurant.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
It is a real sure And the burgers we all
got burger man, wow man, they were good. So we
went down there and again packed. I could barely find
a parking space. And by the way, Mary Greenberg, twenty
five dollars to park in this tiny little parking lot
on Third Street. I was like, what, I'm just gonna

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be here for like thirty five minutes to eat and
then we're gonna drive over to Actors Theater. And no, no, no, no, no.
Twenty five bucks was the only choice. There was no
put in your time. It's twenty five bucks. So we
went to the play and it was awesome. I was
a little worried because when a local director does it
and there's a screen not a screenwriter but a playwright,

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you don't know if they're gonna take liberties with the story.
And I am a traditionalist. I like it when it
comes to Christmas stuff. I listened to classic Christmas music.
I'm not a big fan of anything from the two thousands.
When it comes to Christmas music, I like the old
stuff and I like the original Christmas Carol text. And
they stayed to that pretty much the entire play. Do

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they all speak in British, it's great British accents. The
actors were great, the production was great. I'm always amazed
how they can, they can set the tone. They they
have the smoke machines. But it's not like your brother
in law, you know, running the smoke machine on Halloween.
They they direct the smoke machine in different plays, like

(08:23):
different directions and places and in the lighting with the
smoke and the ghosts were unbelievable. It was unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
And so kudos to them. I'm so glad they brought
it back. And I miss I missed going down to
Actress Theater. It's such a great place for Louisville. It's
always been a gem. We all know. When I was
in high school, it was the Humana series where they
spent millions of dollars to get the best play rights
to do series here in Louisville. And it was great,
and we had movie stars here doing plays in Louisville.

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It was great. Now they have to have a bunch
of it used to be just Humana. Now it's Fifths
and Delta Dental and a bunch of sponsors, Brown Foreman.
But it was great. So I recommend it if it
used to be a tradition for your family and you
haven't been able to go, go because it was great.
It was fun, and the guy that played Scrooge was amazing.

(09:20):
The guy that made a played cratch It was amazing.
They all were. Really I'm just always I'm always blown
away with people like that.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Dude, If you and Dwight were characters in A Christmas Carol,
who were you all playing?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
He's got to be Scrooge, right, I don't know. He's
either Scrooge or the opposite of Scrooge. I don't know.
He only has two buttons. Yeah, no, that's right. Yeah,
he's schizophrenic for sure. Yeah, that's a good point. Well,
there's f Dwight would be Marley. Oh yes, no, no, no,

(09:54):
Maybe I'm Scrooge and Dwight's Marley.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Right, that's I think that's what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I hate to admit this, but one of my favorite
movies that I watched, and I watched about twenty minutes
of it when I got home last night, is the
Jim Carrey version of A Christmas Carol. It's a it's
a cartoonist digital.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Came out of like what five or ten years ago, Oh, no.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Long time ago. It was like two thousand seven or
eight or something like that, and that's it's just one
of my favorite because they stick to the original text
and it's it's really good. But I had a great time.
And uh, maybe Fred, because Fred's the nephew that invites him.
He's always nice to him and like, why are you

(10:34):
so coarse? And and then finally in the end he
goes to his house to have dinner. Okay, and it's
like the emotional dad. I got a little emotional when
they reconnected at the end last night. It was great.
I think everybody walked out with smiles last night from
actors theaters.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
So this is the song they played, right.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
So when they walked yeah, so the play is going
to start, So the actors in the play are singing
as they're walking down the aisles and going to the
stage to start to play. And obviously not as part
of the of the story, but it sets the tone right.
Whoever directed it did a fantastic job. I'm looking now

(11:13):
on the production and directors Emilia Acosta Powell, Emily Tarquin,
those are your directors last night. But by playing that song,
it's sort of now you're in right, And it was
my watershed moment for the season. I'm now all in Christmas.
It's the immersion factor and I got it, and I

(11:35):
will admit. So I did a Christmas tree. We have three.
Jackie did a Christmas tree, and mine's better. Good for
you and everyone that comes to the house, I ask.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
One of us, each.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Of us, did one of the trees? Which one do
you like better? At this point for guests to our house,
I'm undefeated.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Is that one?

Speaker 1 (12:01):
But eight?

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Oh okay, that's a good record then.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
So you don't know my house, bro, people coming and
going all day.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
I mean the right. You talk about the raccoons earlier.
Thankfully they're not around.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
No, but the raccoons would definitely vote for her because
they hate me.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
But I'm undefeated on everybody because you keep them you know. No, no, no,
we're not going to tell you. I'll give you a hint,
which one do you like better? Damn? I went with
a gold motif, so I didn't. I don't have any other.
I have green and gold, so the all the balls
are gold. I have a gold leaf. I went after it,

(12:38):
very elegant of you. And she went red and white
traditional red and white. And the tree is white, by
the way, and like self lit or whatever, but.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
She was not pre lit.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, mine's pre lit, okay, but she went to My
wife loves the dollar Store, like you would not believe.
She's upset because the dollar store in Saint Matthew's is
so small. She wants a bigger dollar store. And she
bought all of her stuff. So there's little white doves,
you know, and big red ribbons that she all bought
from the dollar store. Yeah, her tree is dollar Store.

(13:15):
I'm I'm, I'm Macy's.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Your Macy's, and you probably have your again, your robe
and your glass of wine and maybe a cigar in
your mouth.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
I had my slipper, my Christmas slippers on this morning
with my robe, drinking my coffee, looking at the tree.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Downtown Abbey's on in the background.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I'm just saying, man designing Christmas trees, bam. And I
love it, and I love it. I bought one of
those things that you put on your garage. It's the
size of your garage, and it says Santa's Toy Shop
and it looks like the front of a toy shop.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
My neighborhood with that too, So I.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Put it over the bookshelves, covering the whole bookshelves, and
then I put a lamp behind the thing, so it
lights up like the store is lit up. I love Christmas, dude.
I love making the house, you know, cozy and warm.
I started it when the kids were little. I wanted
them to have great memories from Christmas, right, because those

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are the things you carry with you the rest of
your life. And you will never ever have a Christmas
like when you're five, six, seven, eight years old, until
you have a five, six, seven or eight year old.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
That's true. I all have. So Daisy will be. She's
eight months on the eleventh, so she'll be.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
You know when you hear those feet up on Christmas
morning and they're ready at open presents it and they're
like six years old, there's nothing better in the world.
That's it. Snapshot. Remember this forever because then they become
craphead teenagers. It's bottom line and it gets more expensive,

(14:55):
but you buy fewer stuff. Like when they're six and seven,
they have like twenty toys done wrap. When they're teenagers,
it's electronics. There's like two another thing, right, and they
kind of know what they're getting. That's true. When they're teenagers,
they kind of know what they're getting. It's all the
fun is sucked out of the world because they're teenagers.

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Good kids though, right, Yeah, go see a Christmas Carol
at Actress Theater. It's really good, all right. So Vision First,
Dwight finally went. I went years ago. The glasses I'm
wearing now are the glasses I have purchased. Then I
have four pair, I think now, because I go back
every single year look at the glasses. I get examined again,

(15:38):
and if my prescription changed, then I get new glasses.
Vision firstiecare dot Com eighteen locations there one in Saint
Matthew's and my original one I went to was off
Popol Level Road over by Saint X And no matter
where you are in Louisville, they got one right there.
So you just pop in. My next set I'm getting

(15:58):
are going to be the Ava ray band prescription glasses, bro,
And I'm just gonna wear them for the whole show.
I think that look pretty cool at right, it'll become
a thing. Nicholson did it? Jack? Did it right? Well?

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Didn't Joe Biden wear aviators too? Or what was something else?

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well? Yeah, that was because they were putting the words
he needs to say in the glass like a prompt
the prompter. Yeah, that's exactly right vision firstiicare dot com
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(16:42):
I am now full on in Christmas. Went to see
a Christmas carol last night. So John, I'm in one thousand.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Everyone has that moment yes where they finally feel like
it's Christmas. Yes, for me, it was. It was the
combination of our lights being out in the first snowfall.
We don't we don't ever get snow this early, like
measurable snow this early around here, the way that we
did yesterday.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
And every once in a while I'll get that bug
where I am I'm sick of giving the teenagers or
kids in the family, the nieces and nephews cash. Like
it's been easy because I've been a busy a lot.
You know, I have more time because the kids don't
live there anymore. Yeah, So so I'm like, I'm not
giving them cash because it doesn't mean anything. They use

(17:24):
it for Starbucks or whatever, and they don't even think
about it, right, And literally I would just go around
and give him cash for Christmas, and this year, I'm
not I'm going out and buying them, you know, stuff
that's appropriate for each one. I got a nephew that
I love that he is, he's going to get gag gifts.

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He will get it like, he'll think it's funny and
he'll be cool with it. But I'm going to go
out and spend some money and and and buy gifts
this time. I think it's I think it's important every
once in a while to do that.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Every once in a while. How many families that are
listening to me right now, they just hand out Visa
gift cards.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
So one thing my family quit doing. This isn't necessarily
a Christmas thing. I guess it kind of is. But
we've all we've ruled out gift cards, not allowing that
in any way, shape or form. Amen, because everyone that
became the default gift for everybody, because nobody wanted to
actually think about.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
No, because everyone's life is insane. And I totally get it.
That's what we have done forever, gift cards, cash. But
I'm like, I'm going out, I'm buying people's stuff. I mean,
it can't be that hard.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
There's nothing maybe this is just me. There's nothing more
shameful than going to the gift card rack late in
the Christmas season and you can only choose from three
or four that are left because they've all been picked over.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah you feel like Scrooge. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean
it is. That's where we are. So let's dive in
some numbers. I know I've referenced Louisville Business First several times.
They are not a sponsor of the show, and I
do pay for their digital magazine. I used to come

(19:04):
into the newspaper, and then I think they're just digital.
I'm pretty sure they have Business First all over the country,
but there is a Louisville one and it's a great
resource locally. They do a great job, and they had
a story yesterday on the Louisville's employment. Louisville's employment this
is not bad. Grew eleven percent in the last five years.

(19:26):
I think that's pretty good. That's like two percent a year.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
That's a pretty good number. That's pretty solid, especially when
you and I or you talk about this a lot,
about the hypothetical scenario where if somebody has to choose
between Louisville, Charlotte and Pittsburgh. They don't want to go
to Louisville, this might say.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Otherwise, Yeah, I tell that story as in, if there's
a couple and the husband comes home and says, Okay,
they want to transfer me to three cities. I mean,
and how many times is the wife going tell me,
we're not going to Louisville. No, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh. Great, Yeah,
let's do that. Charlotte, Charlotte, can it be Charlotte. Please
until you get here, until you live here for five

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minutes and go Yeah, this's a good, good town. So
employment grew eleven percent between twenty twenty and twenty twenty five.
Not bad even through all that crap Brian Taylor, the Riots,
COVID everything, We grew eleven percent. And here's here's what
ties into this. There's three things here. One, two, three.
Louisville's household earnings remained strong relative to the cost of living,

(20:28):
which doesn't make sense from the numbers that I told
you about housing prizes. No, prices are up like forty
percent in five years. That's insane that in five years
your house is worth forty percent more than when you
bought it.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
We bought our house four and a half years ago,
and that couldn't have been a better time because that's
when things started skyrocketing, and we go.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
For that, yep, and it's going to continue to go there, dude,
because there is nobody building homes, Oh yeah, nobody, nobody,
And all the equipment that goes to homes, like electronics
and boxes and all that, and the gear that's all
going to everybody that does that is doing data centers.

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They're building data centers everywhere. So the household earnings strong
relative the cost of living, and Louisville's always had that
selling point. Well, the cost of living, it's pretty good
in Louisville. I said it yesterday we talked about coaching salaries.
I mean, how much is five million a year in
Lexington and Louisville. I mean it's insane. It's insane. I mean,

(21:32):
what's the number equal when you move to India or
Cincinnati or whatever?

Speaker 2 (21:36):
That's true? Are Jeff Brahm and I guess now Will
Stein the richest Kentuckians.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Based on now that I don't know what Pope makes.
That's a good point, but the highest paid government employees,
because they're government employees, they're state and sorry, there's state. Yes,
state government, there's state government employees. The highest paid state
employees are always the football and basketball coach at U

(22:02):
of L and UK. It's always the truth. You can
look it up. That's the open records. You can just
look at what everybody that works for the government or
U of L. You can look up what a sports
information director makes whatever. Here's number three. So good news
so far. Number three. Louisville trails peers in education attainment

(22:24):
and population growth. Not good and no surprise, no surprise there.
People aren't moving here. Employment grew, but it's with us.
People didn't move to Louisville. People haven't moved to Louielle.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
I'd be curious how many people that commute downtown don't
live in Jefferson County.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
You're getting better as a broadcaster every single day. That's
exactly right, because I'm one of those people. How many
people are moving out of.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
The circle boul A County.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
You look at Jefferson County public schools and the number
that they have. If they didn't have twenty four thousand immigrants,
you would have seventy thousand or yeah, seventy thousand students,
which is down a third why because families moved to
Oldham County, Henry County, Shelby County, Shelbyville, doesn't matter. They

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moved outside or to Indiana. So they're like, I'm not
staying inside the circle. This is crazy. I don't blame anybody.
They don't want to play stupid games anymore. So population
growth is a problem. So maybe people moved here, but
the people that have lived here still live here, but

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they live in Simpsonville. So the educational is a problem.
And I'm not sure you can get a great education
in a lot of JCPS schools. Overall, it sucks. So
I don't know. They're hiring managers that will tell them, Look,

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if you're going to move here, you know you've got kids,
you probably want to think private school. So that would
that would go into the negotiation of your of the salary,
I think, right. So those are the three. Louisvill's employment
grew by eleven percent. Louisville's household earnings stayed strong with

(24:24):
the cost of living, but then Louisville trails Peers in
education and population growth over the last five years. It's
a weird five years, dude. It was a weird five years,
and I don't think people have recovered.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I know this is a million dollar question, but what
would it take to restructure the entire from the ground up?
JCPS there, It would take, It would take. You've got
to understand the politics all of it. Yeah, you could
easily do it and say the way we teach children

(25:03):
isn't effective. We have to bring back, you know, classes
like home ac. We've got to teach them the stuff.
You know, this is what we're going to teach them.
Here's the curriculum, and get back to teaching them. But
the pro of that problem is the kids. The kids
just have that vacant look on their face, just waiting
for you to stop talking so they can go back
to their phones.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
They're waiting for that dopamine hit from the phone.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Now they don't have phones.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Oh no, right, yeah, yeah, And guess what. They took
the phones away, and they said people are joining the
glee club and the chess club and reading in the library.
The number of books being checked out in the library. No,
du you took phones away. But see, look at that
one decision. So you're right, you could make a couple

(25:49):
of decisions to make this experience better. But I ask
what kind of graduates we have. So they're like, ooh,
the graduation numbers up, Well, what kind of graduates do
you have?

Speaker 2 (26:00):
The key is not the graduation rate, it's what they're
doing after they graduate.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
I'm pretty sure the Germans were on our side in
World War Two?

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Is that a movie quote? Or is that's where'd that
come from?

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Now? You ask kids. I watched these videos where they
just stop random kids leaving high school. Who fought who
in the Second World War? You know who did we
gain independence from?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Right Thanos?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Friends? No, France helped us. Without friendships, money and boats
and men and guns, we don't win. But so Louisville
has always been a work in progress, you know. In
the shift is that five years it's hard to explain

(26:51):
to people, and I think people are finally realizing we
are all changed. Over the last five years. COVID did
a number on all of us. And we're not willing
to weigh in on that, right, especially as older folks
that are saying, ah, nah, it was tough on the kids. Boy,
it was tough on you. Man. It's been tough on you.

(27:15):
And it's just it's a change that we all. These
are all things that I've come to grips with in
the last year or so that we have to come
to grips with what that era did to all of us.
I think it broke our brains, and some of us,
and some of us I'm not including myself yet some

(27:36):
of us have rebooted, and some of us still have
a broken brain. COVID and everything that happened afterwards, the
stupidity of cancel culture and all that and everything involved
left right is insane, and it broke our brains. And
we're still trying to reboot it. Alt control, delete, restart

(27:58):
your computer. We're getting there, all right, Salseritas. I'm gonna
head that way when I get out of here. Got
one in St. Matthew's right across the street from my house.
So Salceerrita's Fresh Mexican Grill. When they say fresh Mexican fresh,
that's what it is. They make that the chicken on
those flame grills. You could smell it right outside the restaurant.

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It's so good. They have a Maria is her name.
She makes the guawk every single day fresh. It's amazing
food and they have specials every single day. Plus you
can get catered for the holidays. Who doesn't love a
taco bar, burrito bar, nacho bar for the holidays, Have

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one in the back room and say, oh, we have
a taco bar in the back if you're hungry, salseritas
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some points. It's a good show today, had fun today.
At least. We will see you tomorrow on the road
with USA Cares. He is John Alden, I am Tony Venetti.
Dwight is in Cabo. We'll see you later. News Radio

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