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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, news Radyway forty whas Tony and Dwight's show. Tony
is actually out on vacation for two days next week
or next week. I'm on vacation. Me and John Aubner here. John,
how you doing, man? Doing fantastic? Glad to have you bored.
I want to bring on our next guest. As long
as I've been doing this show, he's been a guest
on this show. He's also been a wealth of knowledge.
(00:22):
He's been someone that I've leaned on for medical information
and more. It's Carl Lenor, formerly of Superhuman Radio. Used
to get like an obsene amount of listens, something like
a million million listens a week. But Carl Lenore, how
you doing, man?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm doing great. Dwight, thanks for having.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Me on absolutely and I want to listen. If you
don't want to dive into this, just say non I
let's skip it. But uh, I got a busy life.
You've got a busy life. So we keep in contact
via text, via email, and by social media. But even
though time can go by that way as well. I
(01:05):
noticed that you said, hey, you know, recuperating the next
YZ and I reached out to you and I said Carl,
what the hell's going on? You want to talk about
what you just went through? Because number one is scary,
and number two, I think people need to know exactly
how serious certain things can be when you get a
cover you and.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
How caught up I was in being strong.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yes, absolutely do.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I I was a powerlifter and I was one of
the stronger human beings in the world, probably in the
top five percent, and that really was a big part
of my identity being strong. Well, I've been humbled. What
happened was I went to California on business. I got
(01:56):
a blister. You're not going to believe this. I gotta
blister on my foot. And I didn't listen to my wife,
you know, she said, well, just go to Target or
someplace and get some bandages and get some ointment. And
I was like, it's a blister. Well, the blister got
(02:17):
infected with a staff infection and the infection got into
my blood and I had sepsis, not once, but twice.
When I came home from the trip, I didn't feel good.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I was going to.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
The gym and I was training, and I was running
out of gas early, and I was like, what the
Hell's going on? And then I thought, well, I've been
traveling a lot, maybe it's just that. And then I
came home. Uh, I was coming up the stairs from
the basement and I don't know what happened, but next
thing I know, I was laying on the floor and
Alisa was waking me up and she said I was
(02:54):
talking gibberish man, so she called an ambulance. They took
me to the hospital and they told me I had sepsis,
and I had it really bad. So the hospital treated me,
but then they sent me home with the wrong antibiotic.
So when I was in the hospital, I was in
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the hospital for eleven days being treated with the intravenous antibiotics.
They got the thing under control, but then they sent
me home and naturally they didn't offer me home intravenous,
which they could have all infusion. But for some reason,
(03:40):
they put me on a very weak oral antibiotic and
I got infected again, but this time. So if you
know anything about sepsis, it triggered. It triggers other organs
and stuff. Right, every everything in body can get infected
(04:01):
because the blood is infected.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well, I had one valve of my heart that had
some of the infection on it. But that wasn't the
worst part. A bunch of discs in my spine got infected.
Oh no, yes, and I had to have brutal spine surgery.
I'm feeling a lot of pain, but I'm coming back,
(04:24):
you know me. I'm not going to sit here. I
work every day. Drives my wife crazy. I work from
the sofa, but I work every day. I still have
a lot of things going on in my life, and
I go to physical therapy and I'm learning how to
walk again.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I can't. I got to walk with a walker.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But is this a commentary on how men will absolutely
let things go? Yeah to the world, because I got
to tell you a lot of times my wife say, hey,
do this, do that the other, and I won't do
But I promise you, Carl, I could promise you. If
she had the same thing going on, I would be
hounding her. Get your ask to the doctor, Get your
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ask to the doctor. For whatever reason, Guys just they
try to push through when they absolutely shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
At points, Well, how many of us have had a
blister on our foot?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
On our foot all the time, all the time, and
you walk around barefoot during the summer, no matter what
you know?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
What do you mean about it?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
But this particular situation changed very quickly.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well listen, Carl Lenore joins the show and man get
well soon. First of all, because as soon as I
reached down, I found this out on the man got
to get you on the show to talk about that.
But I also want to talk about You've been a
wealth of knowledge when it comes to fitness, nutrition, disease viruses.
I've leaned on you on several different things. COVID, I
leaned on you got great advice, by the way, But
(05:54):
I want to talk about this book because here's the thing, Carl,
the very first time I've even heard the word peptide.
It was eight years ago when I started doing this
show and you came on the show. You were still
doing your podcast, Superhuman Radio, but you've been talking peptides,
this peptize, a peptize that. Now we have glp's and
(06:15):
all those other things. They're all the rage, but you were.
You were ahead of the game way before the industry was.
Right to two.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Thousand and six, I talked about the first peptide right
and people didn't have any idea what they were. They was,
sir doctors, the doctors didn't know. But the reality is
that I did Superhuman Radio for eighteen years straight, okay,
from two thousand and five to twenty twenty three. November
twenty twenty three, I stopped doing it because my other
(06:43):
projects started to taking more.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Time and help.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
LG. Dupree took me in WKJK YEP and I did
my first episode sitting there.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Kevin was my producer. I started right.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
There where you are, and then then I went I
went to the end because I couldn't get syndicated to
the way I wanted to. So I figured, well, I'll
self syndicate. I'll just go on the internet, and sure enough,
I've had millions of millions of downloads still happening to
old episodes, and he is an example. So I started
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noticing that people were downloading the episodes I did about cancer,
and so a good friend of mine took it upon
himself and he downloaded every episode was that was about cancer,
transcribed them and turned them into a book. And there's
so much valuable information here that most people still don't
(07:38):
know about. I mean about diet and cancer. I mean
really about diet and cancer. Look, look, diabetics get cancer.
There's a reason because what makes them diabetic also feeds cancer,
and cancer is not a genetic disease. And we have
industries and institutes spending billions of trying to unlock a
(08:02):
genetic answer to cancer at rhymes, but there is none.
The cancer is when one of one of your mitochondria
goes rogue and it's it's it starts feeding on sugar,
and it's a it's a Glycasian process.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
That was my next question, Carl. It is and I
want you to continue to thought. I'm sorry to interrupt you,
but from what I'm told, sugar is throwing gasoline on
the fire when it comes to cancer.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
So Otto Warburg back in the nineteen fifties discovered a
way to detect a tumor in a human body. And
what they did was they radio isotoped glucose. They injected
it in the person and they watched them on a
CT scan and they just watched where the sugar went,
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and the sugar all went to this one bit of
shoe like a like a tornado. It was all, it
was all there. So out of Warburg discovered what cancer
likes to eat while he was discovering how to detect
a tumor early on. So if you're a high sugar
person or if you have type two diabetes, there's a
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good reason to change that, and you can change it yourself.
You don't need medicine to change it.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
You just have to.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Cut down on the carbs, slowly, reduce them, stay away
from the sugars, and literally, look, the keto diet has
been shown to cure some cancers, brain cancer especially. So
all that stuff is in the book. It's like I
went to school for eighteen years. The people that I
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got to interview were the brightest, most forward thinking minds
in the cancer industry. They were oncologists who discovered things,
and they came on my show we talked about it.
So this book is full of everything you and it's
a short book and it's easy read because you have
to remember it. It's transcribed conversations. Everybody who read it
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before I released it said it's such an easy book
to read. It is because you're reading conversations and it's
you get through it very quickly, and there's so there's
so much good information in there about how to avoid cancer,
what to do if you have cancer, And it's five
ninety nine cents it's a kindle book. If you go
(10:34):
to Amazon and you search for here, I'll tell you it.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
The book title is Superhuman Radio, the Cancer Hold on
the Camp, the Cancer Episodes, super Human Race, the Cancer Episodes.
It's one hundred and twenty two pages long. It's loaded
with the information that's fantastic. And the one really important
(11:02):
thing that's in there is I interviewed doctor Thomas Seafried
two times and he is the guy that has turned
on the light that cancer is not a genetic disease.
It's a metabolic disease, just like diabetes. It's a metabolic disease.
What he did in his lab was he discovered that
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these rogue mitochondria were turning the anco genes on. So
that had to happen first. So what they did was
they took the mitochondria of a cancer cell and put
it in a healthy cell and it turned cancer. Then
they took a healthy mitochondria and put it in a
cancer cell and the cancer went away.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
So he discovered how to cure cancer. And you can
do these things yourself with your diet.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
What do you staying on the look, because here's what
pisses me off about cancer, Reese arch Is. I would drive,
I wouldn't drive. I would ride with my grandfather. In
the mid seventies, he would drive hisself to chemotherapy. Tough
soob man. But we would drive back and he round
(12:15):
about Southland Terrace just about every time he'd pull over,
he'd open the door that he would vomit. And this
was in the seventies, and now here we are in
twenty twenty five decades later, the same damn thing, chemo
and radiation. But I'm also here. I want to know
where you stand on and I'm probably gonna butcher the name.
(12:37):
Correct me, please, But I've heard a lot of stuff
about methylene blue. Where do you stand on that?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I just made a post about it, Okay. I talked
about methylene blue in twenty ten with doctor Bruce Aimes.
Bruce Ames is one of the most famous physicians in
the world. He is the guy who created the Apgar
scale that every baby is graded all once they're born.
He is the guy who created the test to determine
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if compounds were castinogenic cancer causing, and he came on
my show. Methylene blue is one hundred year old blue
dye that has been used in science to stain slides.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
What they discovered was it affects the mitochondria in the
brain and it can actually reverse Alzheimer's disease. He came
on my show and said those words.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Wow. And I posted the.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Show on Facebook and Instagram this morning because I was
the first person to ever talk about methylene blue. No
one even knew what it was until I did that show.
I call myself the Rodney Dangerfield of podcasts. None of
the other podcasting give me any respect. I broke.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
But you're right, but butteriously, you were the first one.
I've heard peptides from all sorts of knowledge now like
these GOLP it's all the rage, right right, Okay, And.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
We talked about it.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
We talked about GOLP probably seven years ago, just playing GOP.
Gop is a peptide and the ones that they prescribe
last in the body for a week because they have
a side chain on the peptide that keeps attached to
the album in your blood. But we had peptide, we
(14:30):
had GOP back in the day that just lasted for
fifteen twenty minutes at a time.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Carl Leonor is our guest Superhuman Radio retired from that,
but a new book on cancer. So you are you are?
Do you in your opinion? Do you think so you
think methylene blue? It's it's legitimate.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Someone called me this morning. So we have a relative
whose wife won't give him anything.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I tell her, Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I tried to get them to use key tones. Key
tones wake the brain up for a short period of time.
But methylene blue, out of the word the mouth of
doctor Bruce Ames, is a viable treatment for Alzheimer's. But
you won't get it because it's a hundred year old
die and they can't patent it, so a pharmaceutical industry
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isn't going to sell it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
It all goes down to the damn money man. It
always does.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I gotta tell you that's why.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
And I don't mean to polarize anybody in the audience,
but I am so excited that RFK Jr. Is going
to head up the FDA because he takes methylene blue himself.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Oh he does, yes, Well, see, yes, Well, I gotta
tell you, Carl Leonor. There's so much information out there,
and the Internet gets worse and worse and worse by
the day. But you've been a trusted resource with me
for eight years on the show for eight years as well.
(16:02):
Carl Lenor from Superhuman Radio, give the book again. It's
a kindle book, but it's available right now five dollars
and ninety nine cents, and it's based on all of
the conversations you've had with experts in their field. By
the way, get the name of the book and how
to get it again.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It's called the super O God.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Sorry, just literally, I had it up on ale here.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Basically, the entire book is transcribed from interviews with experts
in the field on cancer, medical experts, doctors, physicians.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Oh, scientists that were doing breaking research ten years ago
that still isn't out in the public. Superhuman Radio the Cancer.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Interviews. I think it's the cancer hold on. Isn't this terrible?
I can't even read my own book.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
If you search Amazon for Superhuman Radio the Cancer episodes, Okay,
five ninety nine cents, that's the best five ninety nine
you'll love spend. I made it cheap so people would
buy it. But don't think that the information in there
isn't valuable. There's a lot of good stuff in there
that'll help a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
All transcribed, by the way from scientists, physicians, all working
on cancer research. Carl, listen in their words.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Not my interpretation, my words ripe to your.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Eyes right well, listen, I've been curious about methylene blue
for quite some time now, so thanks for the tip
on that. And also thanks for this book, Carl Leonore
Superhuman Radio. I can't thank you enough. Hey, listen, get
well soon, and best of luck, and thank you for
this book.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Man. Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I'm on the men, brother, I'm on the men.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
There you go. If anybody can do it, Carl leonor
can do it, Carl, have a great day, man.
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at the bottom of the hour, and then Gary hoy
joins the show News Radio eight forty whas whoa way,
(19:12):
it's right here is nothing but good old get up
off your ass and shake it, rock and Rose. I
bring in my buddy, Gary. Holy Gary, how you doing man?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
I'm doing great? How are you? Brothers? So good to
hear the song on the radio. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
It's great to hear your voice again. Man. Usually I
have you on a ground Christmas time. You do the
show a couple of times a year, but this new
single drop. I reached out to you through our friend
Alan Rammelfinger, and you're gracious enough to come on to
do the show. So I want to say thank you
first and foremost. But man, this record is spectacular.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Gary.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I appreciate it so much and having having me on
the show, and this record was it was a long
time coming. And I've been through so much in the
last six years to get this record out that it's
nice to find have it out and I think, you know,
a lot of my heart, my soul went into it.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
How long and you mentioned it's first record from Gary
Holy in six years and put is a kick ass.
Why so long on a record and how long did
you work on the record?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Were you?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I mean, gradu, is this a labor where you know,
every once in a while, I'll contribute to it and
then eventually it's an album or did you have to
knuckle down and say, you know what, let's write an album.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Yeah. I think it was something that I had a
lot of the songs written and I was in the
process of finishing Room, and I had many deadlines that
I had set for myself to release it and even
people I was working with, record companies, et cetera. And
what happened was going into the lockdown, I was writing music,
and I was taking care of my mom and we
were doing the social media thing. We were doing coffee
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time with mom where we would hang out and talk
to fans and just to get through the lockdown. And
then I came out of that and my mom kind
of got sick. I took care of her for a
couple of years. She passed away two years ago, and
then a few months before her passing, my young sister
passed who had got cancer. So for me, it just
kind of sent me a bit in a bit of
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a tailspin. And then I came to the studio one
day to finish my record and the hard drive literally disappear.
I thought it was a joke and there was no
hard drive to be found, and it was. It was trashed,
and I went to her place to get some data back.
All they got back was photos and videos of family,
which was great, but the music didn't make it, so
I had to re record the album. So these are
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the things that kept happening, and but I was determined
to finish it, and my son actually helped me, helped
me out a lot. My son plays guitar now as well.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I want to talk about that. I want to chase
the squirrel first, but Gary Hole is our I guess
Avalanche is a new record boy. It's pretty spectacular. I
highly recommend it came out on the nith of May,
so you can get it now. But I want to
chase the squirrel because you said, well, you know, during
the COVID lockdown, this, that and the other. I want
to know if you remember this or not. So my
(21:59):
best in life as a comedian by the name of
Alex Riemondo and him and Ron White, the owner of
t quila called Number One Tequila, and during the lockdown,
they would have these quarantine concerts and you actually did one.
They were just on Facebook for fans of Ron White
and Alex. Do you remember doing that at all?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I do.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I actually do remember, because those guys were so awesome
to work with and to you know, to get to
know a little bit. And I remember doing it very well.
And he was doing a kind of a series of it. Yeah,
and I love it. Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I tried to do an acoustic one for him and
they never nothing, never happened.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I want to get back to the album, man, I
want to get back to Avalanche. Well done first of all,
but number two Leda Ford does a guest on here right,
how that happened?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Leda Ford and I have known each other for a
long time now, well over decade. We started working together
on her album Living Like a Runway, which I produced
and co wrote with her, and then we've always kind
of stayed in touch, and then we've been working on
another album we just finished that's going to be coming out,
which is amazing. And this album, I had a song
called you Know I Would, which was kind of a
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mid temple ballad that I wrote years ago for Leader
Forward because she went to a bad divorce and she
her children got pulled from her and it's all in
her book. You know, her story is out there. And
I just said, Lada, I wrote this song for you.
I really wish you could sing it. And she came
in and she really loved the song and just man,
she at one point she was tearing up in the
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studio because we you know, if you the song is about,
you know, if you could go back in time and
you could take back what's mine, you know, I would.
It's like saying to somebody, if I could change, you
know something back in the past, I I would do that.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
It's just like a well, I figure you just answered
the question. There was this recorded with her in studio
because I know a lot of it's so common now.
Gary then you can have every musician just piece their
pieces together. I think the Stones did that with ex
Al on Main Street back when his analog tape would record,
(24:09):
and it is pieces together. But now you could do
it with virtual musicians. They send their parts. Were you
all actually in the studio together? Was she somewhere else
and just sent her vocals?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
She was in the studio with me, because the last
two records that Leeda's done, you know, she really likes
the way I produce her vocal. She really likes the
way that I get her voice to sound. And I
have a specific microphone, you know, in my studio, a
German like Annoyman mic. And it's not even about the mic,
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it's the way we work together. It's like, you know,
I make her feel comfortable. And she came here and yeah,
we had to work at it, man like. At first,
she was you know, she was feeling it, but she
wasn't totally getting it. Yeah, And at one point I
looked at her and I said, Lida, I wrote the
song for you, you know, for your children and you
and and this is what it's about. And that's when
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her emotions really kicked in and she sang it like
like I hadn't heard her son before and she was
definitely in tears and her heart is on that record.
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Is Leeda Ford as unappreciated as I think she is?
Because if you look at her career, she I mean,
the Runaways what a great I mean, they paid the way.
If you ask me for women in rock, is she underappreciated?
I think she is.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I think she is at times. Her fans truly love her,
and she seems to be having this resurgence lately because
she's just kicking ass out there. She's a great singer, guitarist,
amazing guitarist, and she's in top form right now. But
I think the door she broke down with The Runaways
and Joan Jet being an all girl band, the first
(25:51):
all girl band that could actually write good songs right form.
They were no joke, but they were all in lingerie
and they were hot looking, so it made people hard
to take them seriously. So she had to be bought
the doors down, and then going into her solo career
with Ozzy and her own personal career, she's never been
taking I think as serious as she should, because you know,
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sometimes just people look I hate to say it, but
people look at someone looking sexy and they just think
it's a stereotype that they're not a serious musician. And
she is a very serious musician and a great writer
and I love working with her.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
No, you're right it. And you know the Runaways, with
all those success, they might have been their own worst enemy.
Joan Jet couldn't get signed. She had to start her
own label. You know, the Runaways were anyway fast forward.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Well, let me tell you when you're when you're a groundbreaker, Yeah,
just doing something that's been done before. When you're in
the middle of doing it, everybody's telling you what are
you doing right? And you can't do it and we
won't sign you. But man, if you keep kicking down
those doors, and that's that's the people that that break ground,
like Lida and all these other people.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Gary Hall is our guest. The new album is Avalanche.
The new single I just played with Avalanche to man,
what a great record. Get your copy today, stream at
whatever you do however we consume music. Just don't miss
this record. I'm telling you. But we mentioned leader Ford
being on the record, and then you just mentioned Ozzy,
So we got to go back to the beginning, your beginning.
(27:15):
You're a guitarist. It's nineteen eighty seven, and somehow or another,
you get a tape, a tape of you to Ozzy Osbourne.
He's looking for guitarists. You fly out there. Unfortunately you
don't get the gig. Zach Wilde ends up with the gig.
But without Ozzy coming bringing you out there, flying you
(27:37):
to LA and saying you know what you need to
move here, would you have made it? Is Ozzy partially
responsible for you taking that step and saying, you know what,
here's my chips. I'm all in.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, absolutely, one hundred percent. Because Ozzie when he just
when he came to Boston and he came on a
radio station was doing an interview and said, I'm looking.
I picked up the phone the long curly cord I remember,
and I knew that curly chord on the ground and
there was no iPhones, and I took my guitar and
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I went.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And I thought, stop, stop, stop, stop, So you got
your I had the story wrong. I thought you sent
a tape to Ozzie you played over the radio when
they had it was this jockey and him in the studio.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Bro I was living in a milltown in Lowell, Massachusetts.
I knew nobody to get a tape to. I had
no addresses. I picked up the phone and I started
going wow. I started rocking out Osnie riffs. And the
guy on the phone said, there's somebody on the phone
that once audition for Ozzie and he sounds really good.
(28:52):
And they said, tell him to send a tape to
this address. And I got the address and I sent
a cassette. If anybody can remember cassette tapes, I sent
a cassette tape of some of my songs I wrote
and me playing. And I got a call flying you
to Los Angeles, and that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
That's absolutely incredible. So you don't get the gig with
Ozzy Osbourne, but I gotta ask you a question. It
turned out pretty damn good for you, by the way.
But Mick Taylor from The Rolling Stones, people often asked
Mick Taylor, hey, wasn't a mistake for you to leave
the Rolling Stones because of the Rolling Stones, in which
he always replies, no, no, no. If I stayed in
(29:28):
the Stones because of my addiction, i've been dead right now.
He's confident in that answer. If you've got the gig
with Ozzy could have been trouble for you somehow, because
I got to tell you in the eighties Ozzy Osbourne
it was a scene.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Man.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I think if I got the gig with Ozzie, my
life would have been so incredibly different.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
If I wife and two kids that actually know me,
we have a relationship, I'd probably be divorced. I don't
really know where I would be. But I think I
also think about what what happened in my life if
I did not pick up that phone and throw it
on the ground and say, you know what, I'm going
to try this, and I want people to hear this
out there. You know, you can be in any town,
but if an opportunity comes up in front of you, man,
(30:12):
don't be afraid to just do it. Just go for it,
because you can be from any town. And I ended
up in Los Angeles and then I moved there. I
sold everything I had, and because of Ozzy, I went there.
I found a manager, I signed with Warner Brothers Records,
and because I didn't become a guitarist of some other band,
you know, I turned to a creative writer and I
put out you know, twenty albums on my own, and
(30:34):
I have a life that's different than being in something
like that.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I want to chase another squirrel. By the way, Gary
Hoy is my guest the new album Avalanche. Folks don't
miss out on this. It's good stuff. But I want
to talk about the stuff that you're doing with Lou Graham.
You're out with an all star band with Lou Graham,
and fans could be quite critical on aging rock stars.
(31:00):
I don't know the davidly Roth. He just came. He
turned in a good performance, but five years ago it
was something different. How is Lou doing and how's the
reception been out there for Lou Graham since he's I
also heard that he's doing some dates with Foreigner, but
I could be off. How are things with Lou Graham?
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Things are really good. I mean, Lou's come a long
way from his you know, dealing with a brain you know,
tumor injury in the whole thing that he had to
go through to come back. He couldn't even speak, he
couldn't remember lyrics. So he's come a long way and
he's kind of a miracle. And I've been touring with
him the last year at least in the All Star band.
And man, I'm going to tell you, I have his
voice coming up in my monitor. And when I hear
(31:39):
that voice and he sings, you know, the beginning of
Jukebox Hero, all the things, you know, I want to
know what love is, and we do that little, that
little you know, and he comes in, I want to
take a little time. I maybe my hair, my arms
stand up every single night, and he he still has
(32:00):
this angsty rock like attitude still. He comes over to
me one night and I'm playing and he goes, Gary,
can you put a little more hair on it?
Speaker 3 (32:09):
You know?
Speaker 4 (32:09):
And I was just like, he just asked me to
put more hair on it, you know, and that that
was just so bad to the bone. And he gets
out there and you know, he puts on a show,
and of course he might not hit every single note
that he hit when he was, you know, three years old,
but he's still his passion and his soul and the
notes are still there. So yeah, he's not going to
(32:31):
be torn forever. But after the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame induction, he reconnected with the foreigner guys in
a really good way. I think that was a great
thing because they've been taking him out on some shows
in South America and I've noticed it's given him a
new energy, and so I would encourage people to see
lou you know, before he does retire, if you can.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
That's great to hear. A friend of mine, Johnny Edward,
actually took his place when he left Foreigner and that
it was a quiet experience. But listen, hey, Gary Hoy,
the new record. I can't say enough good about it,
really good stuff, and I hope we talk to you
before December. I know we'll talk to you before. We'll
talk to you in December because you always do your
(33:13):
guitar giveaway. But best of luck to you man, keep
kicking ass, and thank you for the new music. Don't
make it six years for the next record of me
go Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
No, I promise you I won't. I'm in a better
mood now. I'm already working on new music.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
So thank you, Gary Holly. Always great to have you.
I will see you as soon as I can, my friend.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Okay, all the best you too, thanks for having me.
Take care there you.
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Yeah, news Radyway forty whas Tony and Dwight's show. Tony
is actually out on vacation for two days next week
or next week. I'm on vacation. Me and John Aubner here. John,
how you doing, man? Doing fantastic? Glad to have you bored.
I want to bring on our next guest. As long
as I've been doing this show, he's been a guest
on this show. He's also been a wealth of knowledge.
(00:22):
He's been someone that I've leaned on for medical information
and more. It's Carl Lenor, formerly of Superhuman Radio. Used
to get like an obsene amount of listens, something like
a million million listens a week. But Carl Lenore, how
you doing, man?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm doing great. Dwight, thanks for having.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Me on absolutely and I want to listen. If you
don't want to dive into this, just say non I
let's skip it. But uh, I got a busy life.
You've got a busy life. So we keep in contact
via text, via email, and by social media. But even
though time can go by that way as well. I
(01:05):
noticed that you said, hey, you know, recuperating the next
YZ and I reached out to you and I said Carl,
what the hell's going on? You want to talk about
what you just went through? Because number one is scary,
and number two, I think people need to know exactly
how serious certain things can be when you get a
cover you and.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
How caught up I was in being strong.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yes, absolutely do.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I I was a powerlifter and I was one of
the stronger human beings in the world, probably in the
top five percent, and that really was a big part
of my identity being strong. Well, I've been humbled. What
happened was I went to California on business. I got
(01:56):
a blister. You're not going to believe this. I gotta
blister on my foot. And I didn't listen to my wife,
you know, she said, well, just go to Target or
someplace and get some bandages and get some ointment. And
I was like, it's a blister. Well, the blister got
(02:17):
infected with a staff infection and the infection got into
my blood and I had sepsis, not once, but twice.
When I came home from the trip, I didn't feel good.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I was going to.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
The gym and I was training, and I was running
out of gas early, and I was like, what the
Hell's going on? And then I thought, well, I've been
traveling a lot, maybe it's just that. And then I
came home. Uh, I was coming up the stairs from
the basement and I don't know what happened, but next
thing I know, I was laying on the floor and
Alisa was waking me up and she said I was
(02:54):
talking gibberish man, so she called an ambulance. They took
me to the hospital and they told me I had sepsis,
and I had it really bad. So the hospital treated me,
but then they sent me home with the wrong antibiotic.
So when I was in the hospital, I was in
(03:15):
the hospital for eleven days being treated with the intravenous antibiotics.
They got the thing under control, but then they sent
me home and naturally they didn't offer me home intravenous,
which they could have all infusion. But for some reason,
(03:40):
they put me on a very weak oral antibiotic and
I got infected again, but this time. So if you
know anything about sepsis, it triggered. It triggers other organs
and stuff. Right, every everything in body can get infected
(04:01):
because the blood is infected.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well, I had one valve of my heart that had
some of the infection on it. But that wasn't the
worst part. A bunch of discs in my spine got infected.
Oh no, yes, and I had to have brutal spine surgery.
I'm feeling a lot of pain, but I'm coming back,
(04:24):
you know me. I'm not going to sit here. I
work every day. Drives my wife crazy. I work from
the sofa, but I work every day. I still have
a lot of things going on in my life, and
I go to physical therapy and I'm learning how to
walk again.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I can't. I got to walk with a walker.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But is this a commentary on how men will absolutely
let things go? Yeah to the world, because I got
to tell you a lot of times my wife say, hey,
do this, do that the other, and I won't do
But I promise you, Carl, I could promise you. If
she had the same thing going on, I would be
hounding her. Get your ask to the doctor, Get your
(05:07):
ask to the doctor. For whatever reason, Guys just they
try to push through when they absolutely shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
At points, Well, how many of us have had a
blister on our foot?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
On our foot all the time, all the time, and
you walk around barefoot during the summer, no matter what
you know?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
What do you mean about it?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
But this particular situation changed very quickly.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well listen, Carl Lenore joins the show and man get
well soon. First of all, because as soon as I
reached down, I found this out on the man got
to get you on the show to talk about that.
But I also want to talk about You've been a
wealth of knowledge when it comes to fitness, nutrition, disease viruses.
I've leaned on you on several different things. COVID, I
leaned on you got great advice, by the way, But
(05:54):
I want to talk about this book because here's the thing, Carl,
the very first time I've even heard the word peptide.
It was eight years ago when I started doing this
show and you came on the show. You were still
doing your podcast, Superhuman Radio, but you've been talking peptides,
this peptize, a peptize that. Now we have glp's and
(06:15):
all those other things. They're all the rage, but you were.
You were ahead of the game way before the industry was.
Right to two.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Thousand and six, I talked about the first peptide right
and people didn't have any idea what they were. They was,
sir doctors, the doctors didn't know. But the reality is
that I did Superhuman Radio for eighteen years straight, okay,
from two thousand and five to twenty twenty three. November
twenty twenty three, I stopped doing it because my other
(06:43):
projects started to taking more.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Time and help.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
LG. Dupree took me in WKJK YEP and I did
my first episode sitting there.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Kevin was my producer. I started right.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
There where you are, and then then I went I
went to the end because I couldn't get syndicated to
the way I wanted to. So I figured, well, I'll
self syndicate. I'll just go on the internet, and sure enough,
I've had millions of millions of downloads still happening to
old episodes, and he is an example. So I started
(07:17):
noticing that people were downloading the episodes I did about cancer,
and so a good friend of mine took it upon
himself and he downloaded every episode was that was about cancer,
transcribed them and turned them into a book. And there's
so much valuable information here that most people still don't
(07:38):
know about. I mean about diet and cancer. I mean
really about diet and cancer. Look, look, diabetics get cancer.
There's a reason because what makes them diabetic also feeds cancer,
and cancer is not a genetic disease. And we have
industries and institutes spending billions of trying to unlock a
(08:02):
genetic answer to cancer at rhymes, but there is none.
The cancer is when one of one of your mitochondria
goes rogue and it's it's it starts feeding on sugar,
and it's a it's a Glycasian process.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
That was my next question, Carl. It is and I
want you to continue to thought. I'm sorry to interrupt you,
but from what I'm told, sugar is throwing gasoline on
the fire when it comes to cancer.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
So Otto Warburg back in the nineteen fifties discovered a
way to detect a tumor in a human body. And
what they did was they radio isotoped glucose. They injected
it in the person and they watched them on a
CT scan and they just watched where the sugar went,
(08:57):
and the sugar all went to this one bit of
shoe like a like a tornado. It was all, it
was all there. So out of Warburg discovered what cancer
likes to eat while he was discovering how to detect
a tumor early on. So if you're a high sugar
person or if you have type two diabetes, there's a
(09:21):
good reason to change that, and you can change it yourself.
You don't need medicine to change it.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
You just have to.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Cut down on the carbs, slowly, reduce them, stay away
from the sugars, and literally, look, the keto diet has
been shown to cure some cancers, brain cancer especially. So
all that stuff is in the book. It's like I
went to school for eighteen years. The people that I
(09:50):
got to interview were the brightest, most forward thinking minds
in the cancer industry. They were oncologists who discovered things,
and they came on my show we talked about it.
So this book is full of everything you and it's
a short book and it's easy read because you have
to remember it. It's transcribed conversations. Everybody who read it
(10:12):
before I released it said it's such an easy book
to read. It is because you're reading conversations and it's
you get through it very quickly, and there's so there's
so much good information in there about how to avoid cancer,
what to do if you have cancer, And it's five
ninety nine cents it's a kindle book. If you go
(10:34):
to Amazon and you search for here, I'll tell you it.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
The book title is Superhuman Radio, the Cancer Hold on
the Camp, the Cancer Episodes, super Human Race, the Cancer Episodes.
It's one hundred and twenty two pages long. It's loaded
with the information that's fantastic. And the one really important
(11:02):
thing that's in there is I interviewed doctor Thomas Seafried
two times and he is the guy that has turned
on the light that cancer is not a genetic disease.
It's a metabolic disease, just like diabetes. It's a metabolic disease.
What he did in his lab was he discovered that
(11:24):
these rogue mitochondria were turning the anco genes on. So
that had to happen first. So what they did was
they took the mitochondria of a cancer cell and put
it in a healthy cell and it turned cancer. Then
they took a healthy mitochondria and put it in a
cancer cell and the cancer went away.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
So he discovered how to cure cancer. And you can
do these things yourself with your diet.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
What do you staying on the look, because here's what
pisses me off about cancer, Reese arch Is. I would drive,
I wouldn't drive. I would ride with my grandfather. In
the mid seventies, he would drive hisself to chemotherapy. Tough
soob man. But we would drive back and he round
(12:15):
about Southland Terrace just about every time he'd pull over,
he'd open the door that he would vomit. And this
was in the seventies, and now here we are in
twenty twenty five decades later, the same damn thing, chemo
and radiation. But I'm also here. I want to know
where you stand on and I'm probably gonna butcher the name.
(12:37):
Correct me, please, But I've heard a lot of stuff
about methylene blue. Where do you stand on that?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I just made a post about it, Okay. I talked
about methylene blue in twenty ten with doctor Bruce Aimes.
Bruce Ames is one of the most famous physicians in
the world. He is the guy who created the Apgar
scale that every baby is graded all once they're born.
He is the guy who created the test to determine
(13:06):
if compounds were castinogenic cancer causing, and he came on
my show. Methylene blue is one hundred year old blue
dye that has been used in science to stain slides.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
What they discovered was it affects the mitochondria in the
brain and it can actually reverse Alzheimer's disease. He came
on my show and said those words.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Wow. And I posted the.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Show on Facebook and Instagram this morning because I was
the first person to ever talk about methylene blue. No
one even knew what it was until I did that show.
I call myself the Rodney Dangerfield of podcasts. None of
the other podcasting give me any respect. I broke.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
But you're right, but butteriously, you were the first one.
I've heard peptides from all sorts of knowledge now like
these GOLP it's all the rage, right right, Okay, And.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
We talked about it.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
We talked about GOLP probably seven years ago, just playing GOP.
Gop is a peptide and the ones that they prescribe
last in the body for a week because they have
a side chain on the peptide that keeps attached to
the album in your blood. But we had peptide, we
(14:30):
had GOP back in the day that just lasted for
fifteen twenty minutes at a time.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Carl Leonor is our guest Superhuman Radio retired from that,
but a new book on cancer. So you are you are?
Do you in your opinion? Do you think so you
think methylene blue? It's it's legitimate.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Someone called me this morning. So we have a relative
whose wife won't give him anything.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I tell her, Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I tried to get them to use key tones. Key
tones wake the brain up for a short period of time.
But methylene blue, out of the word the mouth of
doctor Bruce Ames, is a viable treatment for Alzheimer's. But
you won't get it because it's a hundred year old
die and they can't patent it, so a pharmaceutical industry
(15:18):
isn't going to sell it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
It all goes down to the damn money man. It
always does.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I gotta tell you that's why.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
And I don't mean to polarize anybody in the audience,
but I am so excited that RFK Jr. Is going
to head up the FDA because he takes methylene blue himself.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Oh he does, yes, Well, see, yes, Well, I gotta
tell you, Carl Leonor. There's so much information out there,
and the Internet gets worse and worse and worse by
the day. But you've been a trusted resource with me
for eight years on the show for eight years as well.
(16:02):
Carl Lenor from Superhuman Radio, give the book again. It's
a kindle book, but it's available right now five dollars
and ninety nine cents, and it's based on all of
the conversations you've had with experts in their field. By
the way, get the name of the book and how
to get it again.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It's called the super O God.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Sorry, just literally, I had it up on ale here.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Basically, the entire book is transcribed from interviews with experts
in the field on cancer, medical experts, doctors, physicians.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Oh, scientists that were doing breaking research ten years ago
that still isn't out in the public. Superhuman Radio the Cancer.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Interviews. I think it's the cancer hold on. Isn't this terrible?
I can't even read my own book.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
If you search Amazon for Superhuman Radio the Cancer episodes, Okay,
five ninety nine cents, that's the best five ninety nine
you'll love spend. I made it cheap so people would
buy it. But don't think that the information in there
isn't valuable. There's a lot of good stuff in there
that'll help a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
All transcribed, by the way from scientists, physicians, all working
on cancer research. Carl, listen in their words.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Not my interpretation, my words ripe to your.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Eyes right well, listen, I've been curious about methylene blue
for quite some time now, so thanks for the tip
on that. And also thanks for this book, Carl Leonore
Superhuman Radio. I can't thank you enough. Hey, listen, get
well soon, and best of luck, and thank you for
this book.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Man. Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I'm on the men, brother, I'm on the men.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
There you go. If anybody can do it, Carl leonor
can do it, Carl, have a great day, man.
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it's right here is nothing but good old get up
off your ass and shake it, rock and Rose. I
bring in my buddy, Gary. Holy Gary, how you doing man?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
I'm doing great? How are you? Brothers? So good to
hear the song on the radio. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
It's great to hear your voice again. Man. Usually I
have you on a ground Christmas time. You do the
show a couple of times a year, but this new
single drop. I reached out to you through our friend
Alan Rammelfinger, and you're gracious enough to come on to
do the show. So I want to say thank you
first and foremost. But man, this record is spectacular.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Gary.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I appreciate it so much and having having me on
the show, and this record was it was a long
time coming. And I've been through so much in the
last six years to get this record out that it's
nice to find have it out and I think, you know,
a lot of my heart, my soul went into it.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
How long and you mentioned it's first record from Gary
Holy in six years and put is a kick ass.
Why so long on a record and how long did
you work on the record?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Were you?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I mean, gradu, is this a labor where you know,
every once in a while, I'll contribute to it and
then eventually it's an album or did you have to
knuckle down and say, you know what, let's write an album.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Yeah. I think it was something that I had a
lot of the songs written and I was in the
process of finishing Room, and I had many deadlines that
I had set for myself to release it and even
people I was working with, record companies, et cetera. And
what happened was going into the lockdown, I was writing music,
and I was taking care of my mom and we
were doing the social media thing. We were doing coffee
(20:48):
time with mom where we would hang out and talk
to fans and just to get through the lockdown. And
then I came out of that and my mom kind
of got sick. I took care of her for a
couple of years. She passed away two years ago, and
then a few months before her passing, my young sister
passed who had got cancer. So for me, it just
kind of sent me a bit in a bit of
(21:08):
a tailspin. And then I came to the studio one
day to finish my record and the hard drive literally disappear.
I thought it was a joke and there was no
hard drive to be found, and it was. It was trashed,
and I went to her place to get some data back.
All they got back was photos and videos of family,
which was great, but the music didn't make it, so
I had to re record the album. So these are
(21:29):
the things that kept happening, and but I was determined
to finish it, and my son actually helped me, helped
me out a lot. My son plays guitar now as well.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I want to talk about that. I want to chase
the squirrel first, but Gary Hole is our I guess
Avalanche is a new record boy. It's pretty spectacular. I
highly recommend it came out on the nith of May,
so you can get it now. But I want to
chase the squirrel because you said, well, you know, during
the COVID lockdown, this, that and the other. I want
to know if you remember this or not. So my
(21:59):
best in life as a comedian by the name of
Alex Riemondo and him and Ron White, the owner of
t quila called Number One Tequila, and during the lockdown,
they would have these quarantine concerts and you actually did one.
They were just on Facebook for fans of Ron White
and Alex. Do you remember doing that at all?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I do.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I actually do remember, because those guys were so awesome
to work with and to you know, to get to
know a little bit. And I remember doing it very well.
And he was doing a kind of a series of it. Yeah,
and I love it. Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I tried to do an acoustic one for him and
they never nothing, never happened.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I want to get back to the album, man, I
want to get back to Avalanche. Well done first of all,
but number two Leda Ford does a guest on here right,
how that happened?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Leda Ford and I have known each other for a
long time now, well over decade. We started working together
on her album Living Like a Runway, which I produced
and co wrote with her, and then we've always kind
of stayed in touch, and then we've been working on
another album we just finished that's going to be coming out,
which is amazing. And this album, I had a song
called you Know I Would, which was kind of a
(23:12):
mid temple ballad that I wrote years ago for Leader
Forward because she went to a bad divorce and she
her children got pulled from her and it's all in
her book. You know, her story is out there. And
I just said, Lada, I wrote this song for you.
I really wish you could sing it. And she came
in and she really loved the song and just man,
she at one point she was tearing up in the
(23:33):
studio because we you know, if you the song is about,
you know, if you could go back in time and
you could take back what's mine, you know, I would.
It's like saying to somebody, if I could change, you
know something back in the past, I I would do that.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
It's just like a well, I figure you just answered
the question. There was this recorded with her in studio
because I know a lot of it's so common now.
Gary then you can have every musician just piece their
pieces together. I think the Stones did that with ex
Al on Main Street back when his analog tape would record,
(24:09):
and it is pieces together. But now you could do
it with virtual musicians. They send their parts. Were you
all actually in the studio together? Was she somewhere else
and just sent her vocals?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
She was in the studio with me, because the last
two records that Leeda's done, you know, she really likes
the way I produce her vocal. She really likes the
way that I get her voice to sound. And I
have a specific microphone, you know, in my studio, a
German like Annoyman mic. And it's not even about the mic,
(24:40):
it's the way we work together. It's like, you know,
I make her feel comfortable. And she came here and yeah,
we had to work at it, man like. At first,
she was you know, she was feeling it, but she
wasn't totally getting it. Yeah, And at one point I
looked at her and I said, Lida, I wrote the
song for you, you know, for your children and you
and and this is what it's about. And that's when
(25:02):
her emotions really kicked in and she sang it like
like I hadn't heard her son before and she was
definitely in tears and her heart is on that record.
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Is Leeda Ford as unappreciated as I think she is?
Because if you look at her career, she I mean,
the Runaways what a great I mean, they paid the way.
If you ask me for women in rock, is she underappreciated?
I think she is.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I think she is at times. Her fans truly love her,
and she seems to be having this resurgence lately because
she's just kicking ass out there. She's a great singer, guitarist,
amazing guitarist, and she's in top form right now. But
I think the door she broke down with The Runaways
and Joan Jet being an all girl band, the first
(25:51):
all girl band that could actually write good songs right form.
They were no joke, but they were all in lingerie
and they were hot looking, so it made people hard
to take them seriously. So she had to be bought
the doors down, and then going into her solo career
with Ozzy and her own personal career, she's never been
taking I think as serious as she should, because you know,
(26:12):
sometimes just people look I hate to say it, but
people look at someone looking sexy and they just think
it's a stereotype that they're not a serious musician. And
she is a very serious musician and a great writer
and I love working with her.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
No, you're right it. And you know the Runaways, with
all those success, they might have been their own worst enemy.
Joan Jet couldn't get signed. She had to start her
own label. You know, the Runaways were anyway fast forward.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Well, let me tell you when you're when you're a groundbreaker, Yeah,
just doing something that's been done before. When you're in
the middle of doing it, everybody's telling you what are
you doing right? And you can't do it and we
won't sign you. But man, if you keep kicking down
those doors, and that's that's the people that that break ground,
like Lida and all these other people.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Gary Hall is our guest. The new album is Avalanche.
The new single I just played with Avalanche to man,
what a great record. Get your copy today, stream at
whatever you do however we consume music. Just don't miss
this record. I'm telling you. But we mentioned leader Ford
being on the record, and then you just mentioned Ozzy,
So we got to go back to the beginning, your beginning.
(27:15):
You're a guitarist. It's nineteen eighty seven, and somehow or another,
you get a tape, a tape of you to Ozzy Osbourne.
He's looking for guitarists. You fly out there. Unfortunately you
don't get the gig. Zach Wilde ends up with the gig.
But without Ozzy coming bringing you out there, flying you
(27:37):
to LA and saying you know what you need to
move here, would you have made it? Is Ozzy partially
responsible for you taking that step and saying, you know what,
here's my chips. I'm all in.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, absolutely, one hundred percent. Because Ozzie when he just
when he came to Boston and he came on a
radio station was doing an interview and said, I'm looking.
I picked up the phone the long curly cord I remember,
and I knew that curly chord on the ground and
there was no iPhones, and I took my guitar and
(28:13):
I went.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And I thought, stop, stop, stop, stop, So you got
your I had the story wrong. I thought you sent
a tape to Ozzie you played over the radio when
they had it was this jockey and him in the studio.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Bro I was living in a milltown in Lowell, Massachusetts.
I knew nobody to get a tape to. I had
no addresses. I picked up the phone and I started
going wow. I started rocking out Osnie riffs. And the
guy on the phone said, there's somebody on the phone
that once audition for Ozzie and he sounds really good.
(28:52):
And they said, tell him to send a tape to
this address. And I got the address and I sent
a cassette. If anybody can remember cassette tapes, I sent
a cassette tape of some of my songs I wrote
and me playing. And I got a call flying you
to Los Angeles, and that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
That's absolutely incredible. So you don't get the gig with
Ozzy Osbourne, but I gotta ask you a question. It
turned out pretty damn good for you, by the way.
But Mick Taylor from The Rolling Stones, people often asked
Mick Taylor, hey, wasn't a mistake for you to leave
the Rolling Stones because of the Rolling Stones, in which
he always replies, no, no, no. If I stayed in
(29:28):
the Stones because of my addiction, i've been dead right now.
He's confident in that answer. If you've got the gig
with Ozzy could have been trouble for you somehow, because
I got to tell you in the eighties Ozzy Osbourne
it was a scene.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Man.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I think if I got the gig with Ozzie, my
life would have been so incredibly different.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
If I wife and two kids that actually know me,
we have a relationship, I'd probably be divorced. I don't
really know where I would be. But I think I
also think about what what happened in my life if
I did not pick up that phone and throw it
on the ground and say, you know what, I'm going
to try this, and I want people to hear this
out there. You know, you can be in any town,
but if an opportunity comes up in front of you, man,
(30:12):
don't be afraid to just do it. Just go for it,
because you can be from any town. And I ended
up in Los Angeles and then I moved there. I
sold everything I had, and because of Ozzy, I went there.
I found a manager, I signed with Warner Brothers Records,
and because I didn't become a guitarist of some other band,
you know, I turned to a creative writer and I
put out you know, twenty albums on my own, and
(30:34):
I have a life that's different than being in something
like that.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I want to chase another squirrel. By the way, Gary
Hoy is my guest the new album Avalanche. Folks don't
miss out on this. It's good stuff. But I want
to talk about the stuff that you're doing with Lou Graham.
You're out with an all star band with Lou Graham,
and fans could be quite critical on aging rock stars.
(31:00):
I don't know the davidly Roth. He just came. He
turned in a good performance, but five years ago it
was something different. How is Lou doing and how's the
reception been out there for Lou Graham since he's I
also heard that he's doing some dates with Foreigner, but
I could be off. How are things with Lou Graham?
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Things are really good. I mean, Lou's come a long
way from his you know, dealing with a brain you know,
tumor injury in the whole thing that he had to
go through to come back. He couldn't even speak, he
couldn't remember lyrics. So he's come a long way and
he's kind of a miracle. And I've been touring with
him the last year at least in the All Star band.
And man, I'm going to tell you, I have his
voice coming up in my monitor. And when I hear
(31:39):
that voice and he sings, you know, the beginning of
Jukebox Hero, all the things, you know, I want to
know what love is, and we do that little, that
little you know, and he comes in, I want to
take a little time. I maybe my hair, my arms
stand up every single night, and he he still has
(32:00):
this angsty rock like attitude still. He comes over to
me one night and I'm playing and he goes, Gary,
can you put a little more hair on it?
Speaker 3 (32:09):
You know?
Speaker 4 (32:09):
And I was just like, he just asked me to
put more hair on it, you know, and that that
was just so bad to the bone. And he gets
out there and you know, he puts on a show,
and of course he might not hit every single note
that he hit when he was, you know, three years old,
but he's still his passion and his soul and the
notes are still there. So yeah, he's not going to
(32:31):
be torn forever. But after the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame induction, he reconnected with the foreigner guys in
a really good way. I think that was a great
thing because they've been taking him out on some shows
in South America and I've noticed it's given him a
new energy, and so I would encourage people to see
lou you know, before he does retire, if you can.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
That's great to hear. A friend of mine, Johnny Edward,
actually took his place when he left Foreigner and that
it was a quiet experience. But listen, hey, Gary Hoy,
the new record. I can't say enough good about it,
really good stuff, and I hope we talk to you
before December. I know we'll talk to you before. We'll
talk to you in December because you always do your
(33:13):
guitar giveaway. But best of luck to you man, keep
kicking ass, and thank you for the new music. Don't
make it six years for the next record of me
go Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
No, I promise you I won't. I'm in a better
mood now. I'm already working on new music.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
So thank you, Gary Holly. Always great to have you.
I will see you as soon as I can, my friend.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Okay, all the best you too, thanks for having me.
Take care there you.
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