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June 20, 2025 • 37 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What do you mean by that? I don't get it.
Zip your face.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
When Jack started over, I'm not good. No, I had
your mic off. Oh good, I'm don't interrupt Jack Fox.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Dude, Jack Fox, you said, whatever this is, I don't
need to take that. Man.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
We don't need to turn there from the peanut gallery,
Jack Fox, maybe if you ate peanuts you'd lose some weight.
But stop stop rupting, Jack Fox.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Man, this is not the way. It's more like a
Monday shoulder. It is a Friday show.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hey, good Friday. Everybody Good Friday. Every morning News Radio
eight forty w h A S The Tillian Dwight Show,
John Alden, it is Friday, and we're brought to you
by the Kentucky Office of Highway Safety. I'm gonna start
with JCPS.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Okay, then I'm.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, you're on crutches, and I stole his crutches, so
I said stay. So a story on w d R
B Rihanna Katko did a great job. She interviewed. She
was interviewing a bus driver. Okay, So two years ago
was the debacle, right? Was it two or three? It was, yes,
two years ago. Two years ago the debacle happened. They

(01:07):
had hired a firm eight hundred and something thousand dollars
to computer generate a route that would make it easier
for the bus drivers to get the kids to the school.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
It's only taxpayer dollars. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
It is one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
And then when they walked into their friends, well I
mean allegedly when they walked in and they said, hey,
do this plan for us, they said, spare no expense.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
So it was a complete disaster. Uh, there's no one
that doesn't say it made national news. I mean the
morning shows for the national shows were here for a
week doing the story.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Can't tell you why they failed. Why because they went
with the least expensive plan, the eight hundred and fifty
thousand plan. If they would have went for the five
million dollar plan, which I hope I hope they're going
to go for now, it'll probably be right. Probably maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
So they spent eight hundred something thousand dollars on a disaster.
So then last year they interviewed a Christine Turner, she's
a bus driver, and she says the drivers came up
with their own plans and it worked really really well
because they know where, uh, the real heavy traffic is
and the lights that always take forever and all that stuff,

(02:16):
and the and the plan went great, Well, wow, what's
what's just doing that? Oh no, no, that's racist. No, no,
is it transphobic? Yeah, it is transphobic. OK So now
both JCPS is hiring a new company to the tune
of one point two million dollars.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
There you go, do the time you pay your property
tax or by the way, it's Friday, take a look
that old paycheck and see how much you've paid into JCPS.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
So wait a minute, you paid nothing. And the bus
drivers came up with a better plan that worked because
they know the routes better because they're humans and drive,
actually drive. It didn't cost you anything, and now you're
gonna spend one point time.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I brought my plan in. Can I pitch it to you? Guys? Sure,
it's only one shoot of paper.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Look, I know what this is.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Ready, Let kids attend the school in their neighborhood the end.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Oh well, so that's my plan. So that that is.
That is just an example of why isn't somebody just
going why that Christine Turner is a bus driver. She says,
they did their own plans and it worked better. Why
Are you hiring someone for one point two million dollars
when you have no guarantee it will work when your

(03:30):
budgets two point two billion and I don't know what
it's going to be this year.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Spare no expense, it's only taxpayer dollars.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, imagine if it goes wrong, you have the brand
new superintendent. This is not the way that you would
want to start out your tenure.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah. It makes me want to throw my crutches.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
It's every show, what a hero, one of the thank.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
You, thank you? I don't like the uh you know.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, So what percentage if they did a survey wd
whas whatever? Do a survey how many people in Jefferson
County in Louisville believe the new superintendent is going to
be able to do good work here? What do you
think it is? Eighty five percent says no way.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I think eighty I think probably not. Maybe eighty five
to ninety say there's no way.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, because competence level is very long.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Oh zero yeah, zero, absolutely not. All right.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
You know, it's a curse to be right all the time.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
I would not know.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's just I hate it. Sometimes I get to I
get it wrong on purpose. Well, it's a blessing, right right, right, right?
I have an answer for the data centers.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
You do.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I got an answer. I'm going to solve it right now. People,
people make answers, not data centers. Right, use your human brain, right, Okay,
Obviously people need the data centers to do their jobs
and everything else the cloud and a Now what's the problem.
People don't want that? Well, I want that, just not

(05:05):
in my neighborhood. So Oldham County is doing it right now,
a six billion dollar facility that will bring fifty million
dollars into their economy every single year with taxes. This
is simple. If you build a data center, nobody works
there is they might have in a six billion dollar facility,
they might have five to ten employees. That's it.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
That's it. They they'll be engineers to be able to
keep the darn thing going.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Right now. This is not the argument of this or
this diffuses the argument of they're putting a ford plant here.
It's going to be traffic because all the workers non stop.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
No, there's no.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Facility five to ten people.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Okay, So it's if it's very there's very few people
that need access. Why aren't you just building these underground?

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Why don't you just exact same thing.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I was going to do that as a good builded
in the basement, dirt over the top, and some trees
and then have a little house with some access down
one level, in an elevator down one level so you
can work. Plus guess what it is, it's the same
temperature every single day of the year underground.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Well go one better put them in caves that already
exist somewhere in Kentucky. Or if it does raise the
budget on the building to build them down underground, just
raise people's property taxes and let us pay for it
for you. That's what jcpsos.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
So I don't understand. It doesn't need to be above ground.
Just go down one level and then build these things,
and then you put the trees in the grass and
everything else on top, and then it called a day.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Let's obstrabberries in there are extrabberries, not the word.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
The energy that would arise from the ground would create zombies.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Oh that's right, Yeah, you forgot about what you didn't do,
your jobby analysis.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah exactly, I forgot about that, your analyzation.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
That they thank you guys, I didn't think of that part.
But it makes sense now you don't see it. It's underground,
it's one level.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
I wonder if they did that, if they said, you know,
they came up with a perfect plan. And then some
professor like professor Pipperton comes running and he goes to
anybody think about the zombies. Sounds like a professor.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
They're going, these things are going to get built right,
and they need to come up with something, and it's
going to be one after another, one after another.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Is it just gigantic warehouses? Which is a.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Giant warehouse with a stack. You know, if you go
into the stack room and are those stacks, it's just
nothing but those stacks. Forever.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
I always want to go. There's always voices. Un plug
one blue wire. You know, there's like fifty million blue
wires back and there with those stacks. I want to
unplug one and just leave it and see how long
it takes me to do.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
He used to do this stupid annoying He going there
with clippers and go get out, everybody, get out. I'll
cut the wire. He's diffusing a bomb and he's giving
himself up.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
But the way you gotta do it is you gotta
find one red wire and one blue wire and tell
him all to get out.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
All right, this is just mean and something I don't
even think you would do.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I'm intrigued.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
I'm sure you got this in your notes, but it's
just mean. In North Carolina, a woman had expressed to
her her fellow employees that she's afraid of dolls.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Dolls.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, she doesn't like dolls. She was like, they scare me.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Alredy guilty of this, I think, but go ahead, okay,
I di where the story is going.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
So she said, look, I'm afraid of dolls and it's
really it's debilitating. I get depression and anxiety about this stuff.
I hate dolls freaks me out. Some people are like
that with clowns. So the genius supervisor elf a Chucky
doll and attacked her with the Chucky doll as a joke.

(09:09):
I wonder how that ended in a lawsuit. What he's suing?
She's suing the company? Oh, come on, I don't know, man.
I'm not going to name the company because we have
a couple of these locations in Louisville, but it is
Remember Chucky is the murderous doll from Child's play.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
So I think that's a common fear because dolls are
just creepy. They are.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
They have the Annabelle doll too. Oh, I can't even
look at it in the eye.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
So my cousin, Mitch Whitten and I we took her
of Russell. Yes, I mean constantly. Well, when he passed away,
Mitch had to go his home by himself to get
some documents, and he did. And up at the top
of the stairs at Russell's house, no, there's a rocking chair,

(09:57):
and in that rocking chair there's a little doll that
was gifted to his sister.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
No thank you.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
So Mitch has to go upstairs and the alarms going off,
all this business, and he just grabs what he's got
to get high tails it out of there. I go
in deal with somewhat the same thing. Well, after he
passed away, we were over there and we had to
go through all this stuff and find out what the
family and get whatnot. I took the doll and I

(10:25):
put it in his back seat.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
I like that, But this is this is right, right,
I said, I don't think even you would do it
no wrong.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
But I wanted I wanted to be in his back
seat and ride up all the way until he got home.
So when he popped open that door, he would see
in the back seat. Well, then he's transferred to my
vehicle or my yard different ways. So we pass it
back and forth to try and freak each other out.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Now, I mean you can't even have Yeah, dolls are
just creepy. I mean even down to the Remember in Poltergeist,
the doll, the little clown doll tried to choke out
the kid under the bed. Remember that.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
So this is how creepy this doll was that we
were passing around. I was the last one to get
pranked with it. It's in my garage. I'm not letting
the thing in the house. I know it's stupid and
I know it's not rational. It's not getting in my house.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Well, now you're going to have these AI robot dolls.
I watched that movie Megan. Oh yeah, Oh what a
man she was woo a little manipulative, little whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
So and so, speaking of irrational fears, me leaving the
doll in our garage. Happy fiftieth anniversary to the movie Jaws,
which my uncle Ed Winton took me to see when
I was seven years old, and since then, I even
have difficulties with swimming pools at night. It's irrational, it
makes zero sense. Don't care. I hate dark.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Water, and I am still really upset that Lemm chewed
up and destroyed. But you're floating the float that looks
like it was expensive. It was like a hundred some bucks.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
I could float in this thing and it looks like
a look, jaw's coming to all the water.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Now you're in its mouth. When you're in the tube,
you're in the mouth of the of the shark.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Such a great float, yes, but every single float that
we have, he barks at, barks at. Eventually he gets.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
To he knew I gave it. Well, he knew I
gave it. He did good to have it.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
He's not he hates you, That's true. He's a great
judge of character.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
All Right, I'm gonna have if you're interested in being
a ref. Paul Ridgewalski, retired prosecutor here in Louisville, has
been a ref for ten or fifteen years. Uh, he
loves it. He's he's a football ref. But there's different
kinds of rest. But this is I believe, just specific football,
maybe basketballs. But if you ever want to learn, they

(12:50):
have a meeting coming up on Monday. If you just
want to kind of fact find and just go to
the meeting and we'll talk to them a little bit
later in the show, and then Marty Martin Bok is
going to give us a call. Did Indiana win last night?
They did? It's going to Game seven? No way. They
beat their ass too. Can I say that on the air? Oh? Yeah, yeah,
they beat Yeah, so they won. That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
You're up by thirty at one point it was at Indianapolis.
They'll go back to Oklahoma City for Game seven on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Sunday nights. Sunday nights, like the Marty Book's going in
late to carriage Forward on on Monday, and I still
got to be here at four o'clock four thirty. Do
you have your Pacers gear?

Speaker 3 (13:30):
I used to have one family Night Pacers T shirt
that has now become the shirt that I use when
I'm like working on a vehicle and stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
If you were a true fan, you would drive a Pacer.
I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I'm sure some of the fans have it.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Those are cars.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
They are terrible. They're terribly also, they look like greenhouses.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
They're already better than the Reggie Miller Pacers though, because
Reggie Miller's team lost in six games, and yeah this
is going to game seven.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Speaking of ugly cars, I did like grimlins are uglier
the well, I can't say they're ugly, yes, but one
thing that did make them cool in the seventies people
would paint them like tennis shoes. At least they did
in the South End. I never saw that. Because they
look like a tennis shoe. People would put really you know, no, no,

(14:15):
that makes it cool, shoe strings on the hood, draw
Yank's shoestrings.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Out in East End we had pintoss.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
And then the South Inners went out there and tried
to bump you in.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
The map exactly blow you up. Let's do joke of
the day on Friday, Hey.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Fellas, Hey, businessman taking a trip to do some business
and his car breaks down on an old country road.
That's when he starts walking down the road trying to
get to the next town. He comes across a farmer
working out in the field.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Oh yeah, he's when.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
The guy yelled at the farmer goes, uh, hey, how
long is it going to take me to get to
the next town. Farmer just stood there. How long? Go
take me to get to the next town. Still no answer. God,
wait a bit, He's all right whatever. Start off walking.
He gets about one hundred yards of years twenty minutes,

(15:12):
twenty minutes. Why didn't you tell me? When I asked,
he said, well, I didn't know how fast you could walk.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
It's not terrible.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's not terrible.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
It's not terrible. Back after this on.

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Speaker 1 (16:37):
Hello, Joe Wash Huh.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I'm watching the young kid on LKY. He's a lot
of fun, very talented. He is on a ride at
Holiday World on a roller coaster. What cameraman, I just
I can't ride roller coasters anymore. It's a sad when
Stallone does that speech of you know, life takes everything
from you and that's part of life.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Oh my gosh, it's like slides and hey John, that's
nut alone. That's Tony doing it. I know you can't see,
but how crazy is that?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
But little by little they take stuff like oh, yeah,
you love red riding roller coasters? Yes, that's gone.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
What I used to love it? Yes now nothing seems
like if you said, like going to King's Island and
we look forward to it every every summer. Dad would
take us and now knows this sounds more miserable.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Well, and then they started to try to do the
digital thing where they let's get rid of the roller
coasters and then we'll put them in one of those
things that go up the simulator and the screens in
front of you and you're going universal.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
As they do it universal for a lot of their
run I get motion sickness. Yeah, they're fun to ride,
though you can't do it more than a couple of
times and you kind of get sick of know what
you mean?

Speaker 2 (17:51):
But I would I miss writing roller coasters?

Speaker 1 (17:53):
I don't No what Nope, I don't.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
You don't miss it?

Speaker 1 (17:58):
No, man, last time I road one, I was up
in my ears a bit and I said, well that's
my last memory.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
No. Dave Jennings and I rode one. We did a
live remote at Holiday World and it messed my backup
and I was like limping and he was like, I
don't feel so well. We were down for like thirty
minutes and I looked at him it was like, we
are old. Was that the voyage? When that came out
I'm assuming think because it was like the fastest wooden coaster. Yeah, John,

(18:25):
it was actually telling you John, it was just the teacups.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
It was not a roller coaster.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
And then they had the fun one was they they
had that where you got in a raft and the
thing picked the raft up and it took you to
the top of the water. Thing.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
It was.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
It was the highest water slide, you know, like a
raft situation in the in the world.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Well you remember the Kelboat canals up in the King's Island. Yeah,
that was always fun too.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
It's a log ride again in like it looks like
a log. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
You would take it up and it just you would
go through up over the trees, the whole bit and
then go down one last.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
That's a fun ride.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
It was very fun.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
And the people would stand there so when the water
was splashed they'd get well, yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah.

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Back after this. They're located in Middletown by the way
News Radio eight forty w h as. It is a Friday,
and it looks like it's going to be a beautiful
day today. It is going to be a hot one hot.
I like it. What it's hot. It means the and
it's not raining. That means the grass is not growing.

(21:19):
That means I don't have to be out there pushing
a lawnmoar around the place. But football practice is in
right now and the refs are also practicing. Uh we're
gonna have Paul Ridgewaalski and some refs in here to
talk about, uh what the when you if you're interested
in becoming a ref, it's it's a way to be
involved in football in sports. You know, when when you've

(21:43):
you know your life's slowed down, or you're looking to
get involved again in sports, but you don't have a kid,
or your kids have already gone through the system. This
is a good way to learn and find out more
about what that entails. You do get paid. It is
a paid position to get involved. You probably start with
grade school and then work your way up. As a
matter of fact, you do. You start with great school

(22:03):
football games, work your way up to high school. But
right now there is a shortage of refs and they
need more. Because that's why you've seen some games. You're like,
they move them to Friday, or they move them to
Saturday nights or Thursday nights if the schools can swing it,
because they just don't have enough refs. It. I love it,

(22:26):
and I know a lot of these guys. I coached
a little bit John and his friends and buddies, and
you get to know all of them and then sort
of they adopted me a couple of years ago, and
I got really involved and we pushed it hard on
my old sports show, and there was a lot of
guys that kind of went to that and went to
the night to where you find out more about it.
And luckily Dwight came back with our guests four minutes

(22:50):
into the break. And that'll be great that they can
sit down and talk to us about it with the
crippled guy.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, let the crippled guy get your call off for it.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
I asked him.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
I asked him, Oh my gosh, this is fantastic. Oh boy,
Oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm getting in every high school
football game for free from now on.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, yeah, yes, signed. All right, Uh Paul, sit down, buddy,
sit down, We're sit down, sit out. We are on
this thing. Let's still have referee shirt.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
The wife and I like to role play, so now
I need to get her a football costume.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
All right, Paul. We've you've done this bit with us
for years and years and even goes back to the
Afternoon Underdogs, and we've had a lot of people that
heard those situations and signed up to go. Uh. But
right now we're in a shortage of referees. Now Monday night.
What do you got going on? Is it Monday? Is

(23:52):
it Monday night? Or when when's the event to find
out more about being a rest.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Monday night, six o'clock, Trinity High School in the cafeteria.
We're gonna have an orientation meeting, a welcome meeting all
the people that have expressed interest in the last year,
or notifying the people have signed up. We'll have our
mister Tom Hoffins with me this morning. Who's our president?
Kind of like the redneck.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Hello, mister president.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
President?

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Just does the president make the schedule on who works
what game?

Speaker 4 (24:21):
No?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Tom? Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Okay, all right, yeah, but you can lean over his shoulder,
go out, I'm president.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
It doesn't work that way.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
A lot we do, and it's just we have an
assigner that assigns the games every Friday night. We do
it through a system called the Arbiter where it's all
computerized and you can look at your text on your phone,
go in the email, see what games, See where everybody
else is that weekend?

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Is there any kind of maybe this is too far,
but there is there any kind of filtering for this
guy went to DAWs. Don't let him refereec.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, that's why they get the question of you do.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
You absolutely so you go in there and if you
have an affiliation with that school. For instance, my kids
went to Eastern. None of them played.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Football, couldn't couldn't get him into DAWs Could you? Did
you go to Dawston's school for the uh?

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I don't mentioned it at all. I don't, But no,
that's the point. That's the old line of check the
rest for the class ring. I mean, that's the that's
the deal. So you don't want an Eastern guy working
an Eastern game.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Correct, And it's just I mean, once you've been out
of school for twenty years, does it matter that you've
been out that long? But there could still be an
interest there. So we try to alleviate all that.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, some schools go too far and they show up
to every football game dressed in or squeezing in their
letterman jacket forty years later and going go Trinity. What
was I talking about? Hang on, Yeah, dragons, we're talking
about the dragons. Dragons. Yeah, that dos dragons.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
But Paul, that's the thing that we try to explain
to folks that you know, most refs ninety reffs they
just want to get it right and they want to
they want to make the game better, right.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Safety and fairness. That's our two main goals every time
we go on the field. We don't care wins, you know,
the coaches think that, the families think that, but we really,
we really don't care. And were talking earlier about Monday.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Night show up.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
We'll tell you everything you need to know, how to
get signed up, how to get registered, what what it
may cost you out of pocket to do this, and
also on the flip side of the financial benefits of
being a referee or a football official, in addition to
good for you exercise. Oh yeah, no better place to
be on a Friday night than the football field. You

(26:28):
two know that, working with kids, dealing with kids.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
So there's a test, right, yes, so a written test,
so you would get the play or the playbook, you
would get the rule book, right, tom right there.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Is because we're gonna we're gonna have a little Q and.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
A with Oh yeah, let me ask you this. Okay,
this goes back even to my childhood when we would
play in a field. We get down the dirt and
Tony's the bottle cap. You'd be the match stick. You'd
be more like a hyperderm we just found and we
would draw up a trick play, you know what I mean? Yes,
I would be the spark plug. But anyway I would.

(27:07):
You know, there's always these trick plays, even go back
when you just playing, you know, with with your friends, family,
and then goes high school, same thing, college pros. And
I was like, how do the referees know where to
watch if there's a trick play in football? Is that
disclosed to the refs before the game somehow?

Speaker 4 (27:25):
Or it ought to be because I'll tell you if
you notice. We will meet with the head coaches before
every game, regardless of the level, and there's certain qualifying
questions that we ask them about all your players properly equipped?
Anybody got a cast?

Speaker 2 (27:39):
We need to look at it, Yeah, see if it's
wrapped up properly, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
To try and avoid anything once the game gets started.
And also is there any special plays you're going to run?
Because I know you're not going to believe this, but
there are some football coaches who've never broken the cover
on that rule.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
I learn it because before the game they talked to them.
The refs are all like, Okay, what do you hear
you know information information You are you gonna run any
trick plays? Yeah, we got one trick play. We might run.
Here's the thing. So they get a heads up. But
after the game starts, that coach starts walking over towards you.
You go, howny, it's a different don't walk over here,
don't don't come on, don't come over here.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
And you'll be surprised.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
We'd be able to head them off because I've got
to you know, I've got to tackle illegible play.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Coach.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
You can't run that. You know it's not legal and
they don't know, and that way that avoids them from
doing it.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Confusion about what the rule is, I think is ninety
nine percent of the problem.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
Absolutely, And that's most of the time a coach is upset.
That's all he wants. Just give me an answer, because,
like Paul said, he probably doesn't know that rule. So
when you say something to him, he's like, well why,
that's all we want. Just turn around, just tell me why.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Uh? And now you're being filmed from every angle. If
you work high school, you know, I saw a team
come in from Pennsylvania to play Trinity and they had
their cameras on those long like flag poles all the
way up, and they were in every angle of the stadium.
Every coach had an iPad and then they had a

(29:07):
big screen TV on the side, and they pulled, defense
came off, offense came off, and they were they were
flipping the plays from the iPad to the TV screen.
So you guys are getting videoed on every angle. Back
in the eighties and all that, if you if you
missed a call or you got a good call called right,
it was done and gone. You didn't have video evidence
of it. Now every angle it is.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
And just like Dwight said, if I was the bottle cap,
nobody knew if I did something.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
No, no, no, no, no, You're the hypodermic needle. This is
why the play didn't work, Rich Wolski, He's the bottle cap,
He's themestic. I'm the spark plug, hypodermic needer.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Get it right. So that's.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Signing up and we're gonna push him around in a
wheelchair with that cast.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Let's talk about it. But let's talk about where starting
out as a high school referee can legia Because no kidding,
there's been someone to start out with you all the
wines up uh in the Super Bowl. Matt in a
Super Bowl, right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
We have quite a few people that are in the
sec ACC. In fact, this year for our training we
started another it's called an ATC class Advanced Training Class,
and we have Matt Austin. I don't know if you've
heard that name. Yeah, so Matt Austin. It was the
works for ESPN as a sports analyst and rules analyst.
He's actually gonna teach that class.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
And I'm not Yeah. I love seeing him, by the way.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
And it's not so much he's teaching the rules because
high school and college rules are different. That's where a
lot of people get pissed off at us because they're like, well, hey,
this happened on Saturday. That's right, that's a Saturday rule,
this is a Friday rum, that's right. So he's coming
in to help pretty much teach more like ethics of officiating.
How do you handle an upset coach? You know, how
do you handle a fan an unruly fan, Because unless

(30:46):
you have really thick skin, there's people that may have
a temper that want to turn around and yell back
at the crowd. Right, you want to be professional. We
don't want that.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
And by the way, you all don't throw them into
a big game in high school first game. No, you're
you're working grade school game first exactly.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Paul said this best. We did a thing down at
the Bats game this past week and I heard him
talking to one of the young guys that were signing ups,
and We're not just gonna.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Throw you to the wolves.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Yeah, so you will literally come to We're actually gonna
have our meetings at Wagner High School and you're gonna
come to a meeting every Wednesday night, and we have
a training syllabus that we go over with instructors, both
instructors of college football for years, and they're gonna sit
down and take you through what are the basics of football?
You know, you have to learn with fundamentals first, So
what is a fumble? What is a loose ball, what

(31:31):
is a live ball, what is a dead ball?

Speaker 2 (31:32):
What's holding? Yeah, because I guarantee you there are certain
games you could call holding on every single play. Now
in your head, you're like, Okay, how am I going
to mitigate this? Right?

Speaker 5 (31:42):
And absolutely, I mean that's one of the things. I'm
an umpire. Paul's an empire. So that's our main focus
is on holding. Well, what is a hold exactly? Because
if I got Dwight and I'm holding onto his shirt
and he reaches out and pulls the guy down, is
that really a hold? He made the tackle, right, so
I have to just physically remove you to turn you,
pull you away from So everybody's definition of a hole

(32:05):
could be different. But our main thing is too is
is it at the point of attack?

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Okay, that's the thing. Yes, So why do you get
people get mad about the holding call when it's all
the way across the field and it was a sweep
left and they scored.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
And you tell me your athlete is fast enough in
high school with the right forty yards across the makes
a tackle with lin of scrimmage.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Is there some kind of special phone that you all
need down on the field because I keep hearing about
referees getting miss calls? Oh the field?

Speaker 2 (32:34):
We yeah, we uh. We discussed that the new chat
GPT is making people dumber.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Dwight's there, yeah, so we why I did not need no, no,
I did not need chat GDP to get me this
stupid Oh that's true.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
The other thing I think is, and we're going to
get to again, how do y'all get out there and
the and the joys of doing it too right, because
we're short on reft and we got to get back
in it. You gotta be tough skin and let's go.
The other thing is people don't want to notice the
ref We always say, hey, if you don't know what's
the referees, then it was a good called game, right.
But there's sometimes you need the ref because the two
teams are a little chippy. I've watched several high school

(33:12):
games where the refs are going to have to take
control this now because the hits were just, i mean
too hard, and they're the little action after the play.
You got to get involved in that. How do you
know when to say all right or I'm sure you're
talking to the players or coaches.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Well, we try to.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Nip that in the bud.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
Paul said, at the very beginning, when we meet those coaches,
in the very beginning, we talk about sportsmanship. We talk about, hey,
we only have five officials, you have twelve coaches. We
are going to have everything go through the head coach.
And then we talk about sportsship on the field. So
Paul and I our job is when every play is done,
when there's a dead ball and we're going in to
get ready to spot the ball.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
As you talk, you use your voice.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
You don't have to throw a flag all the time
to be able to see somebody getting up and get heated.
You can get in there and say, hey, I see
you talking to him. Let's watch what we're doing here.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Paul I was talking to something I think it was
Nick Coffee the other day. He was like, we have
all this technology and we're still using a chain and
two dudes with a pole to do the first round.
How do you spot the ball?

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Forward progress? Where is it?

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Where is it? But please, where's the ball? Rid of
the chain?

Speaker 4 (34:18):
When and everybody thinks, you know, play to the whistle,
Play to the whistle, you know, then keep going except
the play is over by rule, all right, the whistle
just confirmed, right it playsof So that's why you hear
coaches losing their minds. But if the kids, and at
least in high school, if he touches the ground, he's down.
If he goes out of bounds, he's down. Even if

(34:39):
he's running out totally unaffected, there's nobody around him. I
had a coach at Ballard one time lose his mind
quarterback rolling out, he fell down, plays over plays over
touched him and he went and I said, coach, you
know what if he got killed?

Speaker 1 (34:52):
All right?

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Uh, but going back to something he said earlier, there's
your rule book. Okay, right, yeah, yeah, two hundred and
thirty six differences between.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
That in college. That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Oh that's number one.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
What's the biggest one?

Speaker 1 (35:04):
A pass?

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Not pass interference? But oh there's a lot.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
But the second thing is mechanics. You asked how to
see and where to be?

Speaker 1 (35:13):
That's the other part.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Yeah, of that, because like Tommy said, there's only five
of us now, the pros and college they got seven
or eight plus replay, but there's just five of us,
four of us on a high school field. So uh,
that's that's what the training is about.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah. I used to get upset at wrestling matches. Hey, uh,
but some of them are not in the best shape.
You know, you got to get on the mat to
call the pin, right, you got to get down, all right.
I never yelled anything. Uh, you know, too bad, that's okay, sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we never look you you get one call that goes

(35:48):
your way today, you'll get another one that goes the
other way, so it all usually evens out. But I
think it's interesting too because certain coaches that coach a
long time, they have tendencies and you could you know
what players there they're coach to do that right instead
of just doing it on their own exactly.

Speaker 5 (36:04):
I mean there's you can tell there's some teams that
don't want seven officials on a high school football, right
because they want those cornerbacks to hold with the offensive
guys going downfields.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
So all right, one more time, Tom and Paul give
me a Monday night at Trinity in the cafeteria.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Yeah, June twenty third, six o'clock, kfo A dot info
is you can go to our website and that'll tell
you as well. But show up and we'll tell you
everything you need to do and come on out.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
And it's a paid position.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
You get paid, right, it's if you really stop and
think about it, except for a high school game, because
you do have to be there an hour and a
half early. A lot of the games now pay forty
dollars and they're an hour game, so you're making thirty
five to forty dollars an hour for a part time
gig not bad.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
I blow it at the snack place on the way out.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
Oh, there's no doubt, no doubt, you can get a
free hot dog and drink.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Are you sure.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Signing up? Shirts? It is the heat of summer in
football practice has started. The dead period is weeks from
the Oh I love it. Thanks Tom?

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