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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Scary weekend, and we're still trying to unpack exactly what
happened as we find out whs not just me and Tony,
but is the station finds out. We'll pass information along,
but it's certainly scary. I was just following. I'm really
dear friends with Shawn Wallace.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Was so circus.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
What a band they were supposed to be playing, and
I gotta find out if they did or not. Hurricane
Bay and I can't imagine a better time than Hurricane Bay.
Shawn Wallace, Kadie mac car.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Just scream summer.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
So I actually on the line for you guys. Is
shot on he.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Is oh shot Okay?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Hang on?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
So I guess, okay, yeah, tell him we're on the
air for God's sake, Okay. So just it's this issue
is not Kentucky Kingdom. We're talking about the Run for
the Roses Basketball Tournament, the biggest of its kind women's
basketball tournament in the country. Thousands of teams meet here
at the South Wing. They have one hundred basketball courts
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set up. This is one of those tournaments where you
can get the top basketball coaches in the country and
your daughter can get in front of them, because it's
so hard to get your daughter recruited and to get
eyeballs on your daughter if she's interested in playing in college,
to have opportunities. Yesterday, there was an event that happened,
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and I've had reports that there were shots, fire, calls
into metro cell. I've had that that there was an
alarm that went off. But he was complete chaos. Over
one hundred police officers, automobiles were the cop cars were there,
ambulances were there, all that he was complete chaos. I've
seen some videos, but was were you Were you there?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah? Sean, Hey, Sean. First of all, you're on the
air obviously, good morning, Hey, good morning, Sean. Listen. So uh,
I think, like to Tony's point, this the event did
not happen in Kentucky Kingdom, but I think it's a
testament to the safety of Kentucky king that they went
ahead and put measures in place in case whatever was
going on was going on you all. As I'm getting
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ready to go to church, I see on your page
there's gonna be a beautiful day. Soul Circus, one of
the best bands, one of the most fun bands you
could ever see live. It's getting ready to play. I thought,
how great is that. I come back to your page
and you're hunkered down, You're removed from your wife, you're
removed from your child. There's somewhere on the other side
of the park. Can you walk us through the events
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of yesterday? What happened, Sean, and just kind of speak
to what happened? Yeah, what happened.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
We'll tell you what first.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
First thing I want to do is I want to
point out that the staff at Kentucky Kingdom did an
amazing job.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
They shut it down.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
They got everybody locked in rooms and safe and ushered
where they needed to go.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
They were very adamant. Obviously, training took.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Over one of the guys was there for over thirty years,
and he said, this has never happened before, and they
did an impeccable job.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
I also want to thank law enforcement.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
They were in Kentucky Kingdom with machine guns out and
ready to protect us.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
So big problem for all those people.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So we're yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
We're on stage.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
We're in the middle of a song, and to Katie,
the other singer in the band, she got.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
A text from a friend of ours whose husband's a
police office. She says, what's going on? Are you okay?
Speaker 6 (03:47):
And we're like, we're in the middle of singing, like
I'm literally got the microphone in my mouth. And the
next thing I look out and there's lifeguards running frantic.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
There's people starting to run, and there's thousands of people
here right.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
So the guy, our producer, is running towards us. He's
shut it down. Shut it down, piece of shut it down.
We have to evacuate immediately, everybody to the green room.
So we're trying to figure out what's going on. We're
wrapping stuff up, and then of course, immediately my brain
goes to my wife and child who are in the park.
They're on the other side of the park and they
I can't get to them, they can't get to Oh.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
My gosh, that is crazy.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Yes, so they're ushering us in there. There we're locked
in a room. There's probably I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Two hundred people in a room that should fit about
twenty five.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
And their course Kentucky King and stuff. They start passing
out drinks and waters. It's hot, you know, it's it's
a it's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
So we're frantic.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
They end up taking us out, the band out and
taking this to the HR headquarters there to where we're
with the other employees as they're trying to evacuate the car.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
It was very chaotic trying to touch base.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Cell phones were hardly working for so many people in
one small place, so we couldn't really communicate as well
as we wanted to do with people that we needed to
communicate with.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
And it was it was pretty heck pick. But you know,
all is well, that ends well. And I tell you what,
when my son and my wife walked in to that
HR building and my son was crying and it was
it was a big thing. So but I'm very thankful
to the staff.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
A room.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, here's what I will say, if you go to
Sean Wallace's page from Soul Circus. There's a picture there
where he's reunited with his boy and it's, uh, it's something.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
How hard was it to follow instructions because I'm not sure?
I look at them and say, I don't care. I'm
going to go find my son. How hard was that
to say the smart thing to do?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
What?
Speaker 6 (05:38):
The initial react, the initial gut reaction is, you know,
I'm an American and I'm a rebel, and I believe
in freedom, and I'll do what I want and I'm
going to go find my wife and kid. But being
on the phone with her at the time, and her
saying that they're hunkered down and locked in a building and.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Their safe with staff and that they're.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Police all around them, of course that helped alleviate a
little bit of that pressure. We stayed in touch as
much as we could throughout the process, because if she
would have said I don't know where we are, I
don't know what's going on, there wouldn't have been anybody
that stop that had to put me down.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
I promise you that.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So after that, how did they close the park?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
After that? And it answered that question? And then how
was it like getting out of the fairgrounds. Were the
police officers blocking the exits? How did that all work?
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Yeah, they shut the park down before they ushered everybody
out of the main gate.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
I'm assuming by that point in time they had.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Cleared whatever issue was cleared and they were trying to
clear the rest of the park just to make sure
that everything was fine. They shut everything down, got everybody
ushered out the main gate, and then of course there
were police at every entrance, every exit, every parking lot.
There was checks and balances in place everywhere. Those guys
had trained for this, They had their plan, they executed.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
There were helicopters.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
There were at least one hundred hundred and fifty police
officers with heavily armed that were policing the.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Area and running around. They were on it. We really
appreciated that very much.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Talking with Sean Wallace, he and Katie Mack, the entire
Soul Circus band, they were the fairgrounds, particularly Kentucky Kingdom
yesterday during the incident. And one of the things you
mentioned is they issued about you, the band and about
two hundred people in the green room. And by the way,
the green room that's where the band goes. It's kind
of like a backstage thing. I've been in this room
and I've seen the picture and man, it was crowded
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and very uncomfortable looking. While this is going on, do
they give you all updates and say here's what we
know so far X y Z's happened, or do they start,
I don't know, kind of diffusing the situation or updating
you all, or you just stuck there not knowing anything
at the time.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
They were doing the best that they could, but I
don't think they really had a lot of information that
The two guys that were represented the Kentucky Kingdom, which
is the producers that were there. You know, they had
their radio and they were updating it's as best as possible.
We were get most of our information updates coming, texts
coming in, Facebook messages coming there were there were hundreds
of them, to the band and to us, checking on us,
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checking on our family and then letting us know what
they're hearing on the news, and to police scanners as well.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
That was most of our input. There was one lady
in there with a couple.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Of very small child baby who needed to breastfeed, and
thankfully the staff was there and we had to kind
of get her covered up so she could do what
she needed to take care of her family as well,
and it was it was uncomfortable.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
We all knew what we had to do to keep everybody.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So okay, this is the world. Listen to what he's saying.
This is the world we live in now. So so
you're getting you go. It's crazy to think you're hunker down.
And again they don't know, so they don't you're getting
more information from social media, and I guess rightfully, So
right I mean, is that now that we have our look,
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our emergency system is now on our phones and and
getting the information from our phone is really the way
we live now.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
At least there's some peace there.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Or go ahead, let me tell you something that's trying
at the time.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
My eight year old son said to my wife yesterday
while they were there, Mom, I'm so thankful that they
help us train for this in school. Oh my gosh,
because this is helping helping me processes and get through this.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
My eight year old told my wife they helped they
this in school. I mean, we didn't do that when
we were kids. We didn't have to worry about this
when we were kidding.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
No, no, I I look in the perfect world. I'm
upset and say, you know, why is any talking about
Pokemon cards or whatever the kids are supposed to do
or are trying to make the soccer team this spring.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
But they're just like, hey, I'm glad we did this training.
It's helped me. Let let me process this.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Gosh.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Our kids should not be saying words like what it's
helping me process this horrible situation. I just I want
them to play in the in the yard and have
fun and worry about their friends, not not all this.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
We we were on our bicycles from from from ten
am until the street lights came on, and that we
can't do that anymore.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I gotta go back to one more thing while you're
back there, Sean. Sean Wallace is our guest from Soul Circus.
Uh So Circus was part of the uh they were
at Hurricane Bay yesterday during the incident at the fairgrounds.
But I want to go back to where you're in
the green room, you and two hundred of your closest friends,
and room is not a yeah, your closest so. But anyway,
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let's go back to that because at some point you
are trying to use social media to find out what's
going on. You're getting it through text or whatnot. But man,
I gotta tell I gotta tell you, most of the
time the information you get on social media is inaccurate.
So it could have been.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Agreed, yeah, you know, but agreed.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
But so but that's all you had to depend on
at the time.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
That's right, And you know, you kind of filter through
and and you know, the conflicting reports that we were
getting about, you know, empty magazines on the.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Ground, shots fired to hey, it was just glass shattering.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
I mean, and you have to kind of pick and
shoes and filter through, and honestly, you hunker down.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
You make sure your people are.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Safe, and that's all you can do because the social
media is just that, you know, and the police reports
were coming in and people are listening to the police
scanners and letting us.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Know what they're hearing, and you know, what do you do?
You just you hunker down.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
And make sure everybody's safe until somebody has the wherewithal
to say everything's all good.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, last question here, does this change you in any way?
Being said, you know, this whole situation of being separated
from your wife and kid, you're on stage all the time.
Does this change your mindset in any way and does
this change your mindset of how you protect you and
your band?
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Well, you know, my drummers said yesterday, you know, he said,
you know, he said, I've trained for this all my
life and I don't have my beer with me.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
So I tell you what.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
I tell you what this does for me. I've always
if anybody's a fan of the band or they're they're.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
On, you know, on my page on social media. You
know how much I love my family.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
But I'll be honest with you, this, this makes me
more even more worried. It brings it to the forefront
in your mind of the things that could be or
the things that that the way things should be when
we were little, versus the way things are now and
the things we have to worry about, you know, being prepared.
How do you be prepared? You have a plan. And
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I'll be honest with you, I think we've had a
plan about if things really go bad.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
In the world with my family, But this also.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Makes me want to put in a plan with my
family and with the band if things go at a
show or or something similar where it's not huge scale
on what to do and where we can meet and
how we can get through this.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It's scary, thank you, it's a shame. That's the world
we live in, Sean Wallace. So circused got and listen.
I got to say that I'm grateful that sewn Shawn
Wallace is not a man of his word. And here's
what I mean. He said years ago, not too long ago,
he said, yeah, that's it for me. I'm retiring from music,
no more soul Circus. Thankfully that didn't last very long.
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Pulled you, hey, I pulled you back in. And yet
of course this is the famous Sean Wallace line that
comes after every gig, and that is I'm never drinking again.
Sean Wallace. We love we love Circus. Thank you so much,
and thank god that you and the band are okay, okay,
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thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
You I don't know, I don't know how many times
I was on stage or doing a gig where an
entire bar got into a fight or the band got
into a fight with people that were at the place.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
But back then, you know, it was just a fight.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Maybe a chair would fly or something like that, but
there wasn't anybody with a gun pulling a gun.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
And where you have to fear for that.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
So now instead of getting into a scuffle in the
old days and you move on or you don't even react.
How many times you drink to keep drinking the beer
as the fight is going on, like you're not even
reacting to it, and now you've got to go. Does
someone have a gun? It's it's not I just got
Metro said, Matt is gonna come on?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Oh Massers, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No, no, yeah, I think yes, Matt is gonna come on.
He is in the neighborhood, so he's gonna stop, boss sweet.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
So we'll talk to him about what happened yesterday, the
response and what exactly that they hurt.
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Speaker 2 (20:28):
And but first the fairgrounds. What can you tell.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Us, Well, I can tell you that the community should
be extremely proud of their police department.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Amen to that wow which happen.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
I was impressed.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
I was out working overtime at the PGA detail at
the Hurstport Country Clip for the ISCO when the page
came out, and it's just one of those calls where
everybody goes. It doesn't matter what part of the city
you're patrolling, you go. And that's what your police department
did yesterday. When I got there, there was you know,
there was one hundred hundred and twenty police and fire
(21:02):
ems a state. I mean, everybody goes to that type
of call and and it's a privilege to see my
cohorts rushing to the unknown. But I'm going to tell
you what happened yesterday, and you're not gonna believe it
because it's very simple and I can understand how the
chaos ensuit.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Okay, here's what happened.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Forty thousand people packed into an arena for a girls
basketball tournament, over two thousand teams from across the country
for a girls basketball the largest tournament in the in
the country is going on. There, A ceiling tile falls
and hits a metal chair, causing a loud noise at
the same time that a woman is having a medical emergency.
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Those two things combined created that chaos yesterday and turned
into an active aggressor.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
So people started running out of the building because they
heard the loud noise. Most likely he thought that it
was a gunshot, saw a woman in distress, and then
panic ensued and so people pulled the fire alarm. We're
confirming that this morning, and there were some doors that
had some damage, but that was just people trying to
(22:14):
get the hell out of there.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
The people got injured were trying to leave.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
Yeah, there was six injured. Two were transported. All the
injuries were from like trampling and falling and things.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Of that magic gosh.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
So that escalated to nine to one one calls for
service for an active aggressor at the fairgrounds with forty
thousand people prompting your police response. We learned pretty quickly
when there was no gunshots, what we call stimulus, no victims,
that it was not a legit active aggressor.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Thank god.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Your officers are trained to not small talk people. We're
trained to look for stimulus. We are listening for gunshots.
So when we show up on scene, we're in search mode,
and then when we hear gunshots, it's fast as you
can go. You're blowing past doors. You're not searching anymore,
You're going to the sound of gunshots. And we never
heard that yesterday.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
So again, a ceiling tile fell from the roof, smacked
in aluminium or metal chair at the same time that
there was a woman that was in medical distress. Yes,
the two combine to get what you had yesterday.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
So two plus two equals wow. Okay, But is that
symptomatic though? Is that symptomatic of the world that we
live in?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Correct, it is, it is.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
But I'm going to tell you this, your police department
can't afford to look at it that way. We have
to respond every single time, like the way we responded yesterday.
The second a cop goes hats crap right, No one's
gonna shoot up a girls basketball tournament. No one's gonna
shoot up that school that's a good like this. No
one's gonna shoot up that church in Lexington yesterday morning.
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The second that your police don't respond the way that
we do, we're eve all day and so we can't
afford to do that, and so I was really proud
of the men women of Bell and pd Man they
were doing.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I didn't do anything.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
I stood around and was tweeting a little bit, trying
to let the media know where to go and where
we were going to brief them, and trying to let
the public know on our social which brings me to
another point. I would want to caution your listeners to
watch watching what's going on on these scan pages, these
these scanner pages that listen to our scanners and then
make a Facebook post about it. Because I've been a
con I've been a cop for sixteen years. I've been
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dispatched to thousands and thousands of calls for service. I
can tell you unequivocally it's very rare that what we
get dispatched to is exactly what we end up finding out.
What we saw everything online yesterday, from people being killed
too yeah, to we know who the suspect is, to
shots were being fired. I have it confirmed, and I'm thinking,
(24:45):
where the hell did all this come from? They heard
it on a scanner maybe, or they heard it from
word of mouth, or they saw it on some well.
I got a text from somebody that's there that said
this man, social media is the devil something.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
So it definitely is. When we were talking with Sean
Wallace from so Sarckers earlier who was performing Kentucky Kingdom,
they got pulled back all the way Kentucky Kingdom and
good on Kentucky Kingdom as well, because they made sure
everybody was safe. But I gotta ask you, at some
point on social media, I was starting to see face, Well,
we have a suspect in custody. Was all of that?
(25:19):
BS two? There is no suspect or is there?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
We detained a guy.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
You detained a guy that was acting a little suspicious
out in the parking lot, but he was he was
crazy guy, I'll be honest with you. He was off
his meds and he was just being erratic in a
in a situation where he's probably not the best spot
to be erratic. So we did detain somebody, but really
quickly we learned this guy needs.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Just ronical medical help. Okay, we're able to get him.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
That do these these are citizens with Facebook pages that
listen to Scanner, that comment on it undred Okay, so
do that dude? Does those people cause people to call
nine to one one?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Okay, so some of the calls yesterday were probably people
that weren't even there.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Yes a hundred, it's you know what it is.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
It's worried family members that have people at Kentucky Kingdom,
that have people at the tournament that are calling us saying, hey,
I'm seeing this on social media, and you know, they're
creating some more havoc there, just like I want the
public to know that we will get you the information
when it's time, but we have work to do first.
(26:22):
Our job was to flush out the South wing and
the North wing in the Skybridge and make sure there was.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Nobody bleeding, dying and actively shooting.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Right.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Once we get that done, we will address everybody else.
But everybody wants to know what's going on so quickly,
and the rumor spread so quick and like Kentucky Kingdom,
we had calls for service of an active aggressor at
Kentucky Kingdom. While I was standing at gate one yesterday
at the Fair and ex Post Center, nothing was I
was like, multiple shots are heard of Kentucky Kingdom and
I was like, that's Kentucky Kingdom right there. I don't
(26:49):
I don't hear any gunshots. What the hell's going on. Okay,
to your point.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I had no knowledge that anything else was going on
at the fair grounds. I'm not your sports enthusiasts, sure,
but I didn't know that this basketball term was going on.
And the only information I had, which was coming straight
from social media, was it was all at Kentucky Kingdom, yeah,
when in fact it wasn't even near it. They were
just making sure that their patrons were safe.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, it seems like Kentucky Kingdom.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
It was a bleedover effect from what That's probably a
bad pun when we're talking about active aggressor, to be honest,
but it was an effect that happened because of the
fair and expost Center, the Exposition Center, you know, we
went into were we had a helicopter over Kentucky Kingdom immediately, yeah,
and was like there's people eating at restaurants. We don't
see anything crazy. And then and then people started evacuating
(27:38):
on their own, right, L ANDPD didn't make the call
to close Kentucky Kingdom, right, okay, people were like we're
out of here, We're done for the day. And then
we had a little bit of a traffic issue. Back
to your point, real quick, Dwhite, I would say, if
you're going to monitor social media for stuff, I would
monitor just verified yeah, verified stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Our Twitter.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
Anytime there's a crisis L ANDPD Twitter is the place
to go because we're putting live updates on there for
the media and the public to see.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
I'd stay away from scanner pages.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
It's weird to think of back in the day when
we just had landlines. To you all the police were
going off very little information to now you're trying to
weave through the too much information.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
It's disinformation.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
It's not too much, it's dis and it makes our
job a little bit harder because sometimes we chase our tail.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Okay, so now you've got the fair coming up and
you have the concerts? Is this so, what do we
learn from this situation? Okay, those are two pretty big
events with a lot of people. You all responded in perfection.
How do we learn from that on these next two events?
Speaker 7 (28:38):
I mean, just having boots on ground I think is
a big thing. There were some officers that were working
security for the detail. They weren't LMPD, and but it's
just not enough. You know, we can't be everywhere. And
I understand how this happened. You hear a loud noise
in a venue and people are unequivocally trained, conditioned to
think active aggressor. And it's a sad world that we
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live in, but it is the reality.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Uh God. Going to social media, Zach says that he
was there actually officiating games for a run for the Roses,
and he says LMPD was there in minutes on and
off duty. Yeah, and he said it was quite impressive,
and it was quite impressive what you all do. And
I hate, I hate even speaking of this event, but
you know, it's just proven. With the bank shooting, well,
(29:25):
you know, I mean that response was something unreal.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
Well we had we have old national on our in
the back of our mind, but then there was an
active aggressor in Lexington yesterday. People that was on people's
minds too, just because they ran a basketball game. I
mean there was multiple dead. You know, yeah, it's it's
it's on our minds, it is. But I just want
I want your listeners to know they should be proud
of your police department.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
We're doing the right thing. We're rushing to the sounds
of gunfire.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
And we need people to do that and I need
you to accept that challenge and come to LMPD dot
dot com, LMPD jobs dot com except the challenge and
be a part of something great, because that's what's going
on here within your police department should be proud.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
You said before we went to break in, I told
you not to tell us until we were live. You
said you won't believe. Yeah what And I would have.
I would have never gotten there in a million years
that a tile fell and hit a metal chair and
a woman was stressed.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Actually, people put those two differs.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Actually, I texted you yesterday and I said, I bet
you was a ceiling tile and a chair, if you
remember I did say that I did. And by the way, John,
we're gonna push real it into years to after afternoons
eleven o five. Uh, but I gotta tell you it's
quite impressive. The helicopter was there with I mean, your
(30:43):
response time was impeccable. But just to get on the
scene and then the pandemonium of when people think there's
an active aggressor, I can't only imagine. I talked, I
told the story earlier in the nine o'clock hour. I
had a friend of mine, she was out there with
her daughter. She makes it from the car. She's getting
(31:03):
ready walk into Kentucky Kingdom. And again this was not
where the suspicion was going on, but people were running
out of Kentucky Kingdom because they had bad information. Sure,
she starts running a family that she doesn't even know,
invites them here, get in our car. We'll get you.
Speaker 7 (31:18):
That's awesome, isn't That's something Little stories like that always
pop up.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
But let's go back to what you dealt with. You
show up on the scene and everybody is me, me, me,
saved me to the point this is the flip side
of that coin, to the point where people are actually getting trampled.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
Yeah, we had one woman fall down an escalator. Another
woman rolled her ankle pretty good. But see it's not
just the police that respond, you know, on active aggressors.
We trained with the fire department and EMS as a team.
The three agencies get together and we have tactics on
how we respond to these. Used to be like the
police go in, we neutralize the threat, and then we
(31:54):
waved the first response. The first responders in fire and
MS come triage people. We don't have time to do
that in a legit active aggressor scenario. So guess who
comes with us. Fire and EMS come in to the
active aggressor scenario with us. We have an instant command
protocol system.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Okay. There there's like.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
If it's a fire department, if it's this, yeah it's us,
it's whoever we can.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Change to show up.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Hey, this is our case. Back off, Yeah, get out
of here.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
But the fire department in the MS they built, they
have teams that come in with officers. We deploy them
from a staging area into the into the thing and
then we'll that way they can triage inside and save life.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
The fair grounds have a police officer or police squad.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, I know they have a jail because I've been
in it all.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
They have a hell of a police department, Okay, and
there most of them are retired l MPD and they
were with us like it was. It was a thing
of beauty yesterday from a communications standpoint, because I'm there
with the LMPD commander that's in charge with the fire captains,
in charge with em s that's in charge.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
With the fair ground.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
People were all in one area making decisions and things
are happening fluid, you know, just seamlessly. The only problem
that we really had was the traffic jam of getting
everyone from the Expo Center and Kentucky Kingdom out at
the same time. We opened all the gates, left officers
of gates and just rushed everybody out.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
It took some time.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
It was okay, but it's not just getting there. I'm
glad you brought that up, because I would have forgot
about this. Sean Waller so Circus was talking about the
experience yesterday. Not only is it you all have to
get to the scene of what you think as an
active aggressor or active shooter, but you all have you
also have to steal off the exits, and you did that, yeah,
to the point where there was there was nothing left
(33:39):
to chance on this.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Well, on this one, we actually wanted everybody out of there.
You know, we don't. We don't want forty thousand people
to shelter in place. If you didn't witness it and
you're not injured, get out of there like you're just
another body in our way and potentially another victim if
there really was an active aggressor. So honestly, we opened
all the doors, and then when we learned really quick
there was no showcasings, no blood trails, no five hundred
(34:03):
calls for service that people be. It was a lot
different than the phone calls we got from old Dashall.
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Scary weekend, and we're still trying to unpack exactly what
happened as we find out whs not just me and Tony,
but is the station finds out. We'll pass information along,
but it's certainly scary. I was just following. I'm really
dear friends with Shawn Wallace.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Was so circus.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
What a band they were supposed to be playing, and
I gotta find out if they did or not. Hurricane
Bay and I can't imagine a better time than Hurricane Bay.
Shawn Wallace, Kadie mac car.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Just scream summer.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
So I actually on the line for you guys. Is
shot on he.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Is oh shot Okay?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Hang on?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
So I guess, okay, yeah, tell him we're on the
air for God's sake, Okay. So just it's this issue
is not Kentucky Kingdom. We're talking about the Run for
the Roses Basketball Tournament, the biggest of its kind women's
basketball tournament in the country. Thousands of teams meet here
at the South Wing. They have one hundred basketball courts
(01:33):
set up. This is one of those tournaments where you
can get the top basketball coaches in the country and
your daughter can get in front of them, because it's
so hard to get your daughter recruited and to get
eyeballs on your daughter if she's interested in playing in college,
to have opportunities. Yesterday, there was an event that happened,
(01:54):
and I've had reports that there were shots, fire, calls
into metro cell. I've had that that there was an
alarm that went off. But he was complete chaos. Over
one hundred police officers, automobiles were the cop cars were there,
ambulances were there, all that he was complete chaos. I've
seen some videos, but was were you Were you there?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah? Sean, Hey, Sean. First of all, you're on the
air obviously, good morning, Hey, good morning, Sean. Listen. So uh,
I think, like to Tony's point, this the event did
not happen in Kentucky Kingdom, but I think it's a
testament to the safety of Kentucky king that they went
ahead and put measures in place in case whatever was
going on was going on you all. As I'm getting
(02:37):
ready to go to church, I see on your page
there's gonna be a beautiful day. Soul Circus, one of
the best bands, one of the most fun bands you
could ever see live. It's getting ready to play. I thought,
how great is that. I come back to your page
and you're hunkered down, You're removed from your wife, you're
removed from your child. There's somewhere on the other side
of the park. Can you walk us through the events
(02:58):
of yesterday? What happened, Sean, and just kind of speak
to what happened? Yeah, what happened.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
We'll tell you what first.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
First thing I want to do is I want to
point out that the staff at Kentucky Kingdom did an
amazing job.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
They shut it down.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
They got everybody locked in rooms and safe and ushered
where they needed to go.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
They were very adamant. Obviously, training took.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Over one of the guys was there for over thirty years,
and he said, this has never happened before, and they
did an impeccable job.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
I also want to thank law enforcement.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
They were in Kentucky Kingdom with machine guns out and
ready to protect us.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
So big problem for all those people.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So we're yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
We're on stage.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
We're in the middle of a song, and to Katie,
the other singer in the band, she got.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
A text from a friend of ours whose husband's a
police office. She says, what's going on? Are you okay?
Speaker 6 (03:47):
And we're like, we're in the middle of singing, like
I'm literally got the microphone in my mouth. And the
next thing I look out and there's lifeguards running frantic.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
There's people starting to run, and there's thousands of people
here right.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
So the guy, our producer, is running towards us. He's
shut it down. Shut it down, piece of shut it down.
We have to evacuate immediately, everybody to the green room.
So we're trying to figure out what's going on. We're
wrapping stuff up, and then of course, immediately my brain
goes to my wife and child who are in the park.
They're on the other side of the park and they
I can't get to them, they can't get to Oh.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
My gosh, that is crazy.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Yes, so they're ushering us in there. There we're locked
in a room. There's probably I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Two hundred people in a room that should fit about
twenty five.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
And their course Kentucky King and stuff. They start passing
out drinks and waters. It's hot, you know, it's it's
a it's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
So we're frantic.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
They end up taking us out, the band out and
taking this to the HR headquarters there to where we're
with the other employees as they're trying to evacuate the car.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
It was very chaotic trying to touch base.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Cell phones were hardly working for so many people in
one small place, so we couldn't really communicate as well
as we wanted to do with people that we needed to
communicate with.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
And it was it was pretty heck pick. But you know,
all is well, that ends well. And I tell you what,
when my son and my wife walked in to that
HR building and my son was crying and it was
it was a big thing. So but I'm very thankful
to the staff.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
A room.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, here's what I will say, if you go to
Sean Wallace's page from Soul Circus. There's a picture there
where he's reunited with his boy and it's, uh, it's something.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
How hard was it to follow instructions because I'm not sure?
I look at them and say, I don't care. I'm
going to go find my son. How hard was that
to say the smart thing to do?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
What?
Speaker 6 (05:38):
The initial react, the initial gut reaction is, you know,
I'm an American and I'm a rebel, and I believe
in freedom, and I'll do what I want and I'm
going to go find my wife and kid. But being
on the phone with her at the time, and her
saying that they're hunkered down and locked in a building and.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Their safe with staff and that they're.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Police all around them, of course that helped alleviate a
little bit of that pressure. We stayed in touch as
much as we could throughout the process, because if she
would have said I don't know where we are, I
don't know what's going on, there wouldn't have been anybody
that stop that had to put me down.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
I promise you that.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So after that, how did they close the park?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
After that? And it answered that question? And then how
was it like getting out of the fairgrounds. Were the
police officers blocking the exits? How did that all work?
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Yeah, they shut the park down before they ushered everybody
out of the main gate.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
I'm assuming by that point in time they had.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Cleared whatever issue was cleared and they were trying to
clear the rest of the park just to make sure
that everything was fine. They shut everything down, got everybody
ushered out the main gate, and then of course there
were police at every entrance, every exit, every parking lot.
There was checks and balances in place everywhere. Those guys
had trained for this, They had their plan, they executed.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
There were helicopters.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
There were at least one hundred hundred and fifty police
officers with heavily armed that were policing the.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Area and running around. They were on it. We really
appreciated that very much.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Talking with Sean Wallace, he and Katie Mack, the entire
Soul Circus band, they were the fairgrounds, particularly Kentucky Kingdom
yesterday during the incident. And one of the things you
mentioned is they issued about you, the band and about
two hundred people in the green room. And by the way,
the green room that's where the band goes. It's kind
of like a backstage thing. I've been in this room
and I've seen the picture and man, it was crowded
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and very uncomfortable looking. While this is going on, do
they give you all updates and say here's what we
know so far X y Z's happened, or do they start,
I don't know, kind of diffusing the situation or updating
you all, or you just stuck there not knowing anything
at the time.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
They were doing the best that they could, but I
don't think they really had a lot of information that
The two guys that were represented the Kentucky Kingdom, which
is the producers that were there. You know, they had
their radio and they were updating it's as best as possible.
We were get most of our information updates coming, texts
coming in, Facebook messages coming there were there were hundreds
of them, to the band and to us, checking on us,
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checking on our family and then letting us know what
they're hearing on the news, and to police scanners as well.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
That was most of our input. There was one lady
in there with a couple.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Of very small child baby who needed to breastfeed, and
thankfully the staff was there and we had to kind
of get her covered up so she could do what
she needed to take care of her family as well,
and it was it was uncomfortable.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
We all knew what we had to do to keep everybody.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So okay, this is the world. Listen to what he's saying.
This is the world we live in now. So so
you're getting you go. It's crazy to think you're hunker down.
And again they don't know, so they don't you're getting
more information from social media, and I guess rightfully, So
right I mean, is that now that we have our look,
(08:52):
our emergency system is now on our phones and and
getting the information from our phone is really the way
we live now.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
At least there's some peace there.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Or go ahead, let me tell you something that's trying
at the time.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
My eight year old son said to my wife yesterday
while they were there, Mom, I'm so thankful that they
help us train for this in school. Oh my gosh,
because this is helping helping me processes and get through this.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
My eight year old told my wife they helped they
this in school. I mean, we didn't do that when
we were kids. We didn't have to worry about this
when we were kidding.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
No, no, I I look in the perfect world. I'm
upset and say, you know, why is any talking about
Pokemon cards or whatever the kids are supposed to do
or are trying to make the soccer team this spring.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
But they're just like, hey, I'm glad we did this training.
It's helped me. Let let me process this.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Gosh.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Our kids should not be saying words like what it's
helping me process this horrible situation. I just I want
them to play in the in the yard and have
fun and worry about their friends, not not all this.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
We we were on our bicycles from from from ten
am until the street lights came on, and that we
can't do that anymore.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I gotta go back to one more thing while you're
back there, Sean. Sean Wallace is our guest from Soul Circus.
Uh So Circus was part of the uh they were
at Hurricane Bay yesterday during the incident at the fairgrounds.
But I want to go back to where you're in
the green room, you and two hundred of your closest friends,
and room is not a yeah, your closest so. But anyway,
(10:34):
let's go back to that because at some point you
are trying to use social media to find out what's
going on. You're getting it through text or whatnot. But man,
I gotta tell I gotta tell you, most of the
time the information you get on social media is inaccurate.
So it could have been.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Agreed, yeah, you know, but agreed.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
But so but that's all you had to depend on
at the time.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
That's right, And you know, you kind of filter through
and and you know, the conflicting reports that we were
getting about, you know, empty magazines on the.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Ground, shots fired to hey, it was just glass shattering.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
I mean, and you have to kind of pick and
shoes and filter through, and honestly, you hunker down.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
You make sure your people are.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Safe, and that's all you can do because the social
media is just that, you know, and the police reports
were coming in and people are listening to the police
scanners and letting us.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Know what they're hearing, and you know, what do you do?
You just you hunker down.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
And make sure everybody's safe until somebody has the wherewithal
to say everything's all good.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, last question here, does this change you in any way?
Being said, you know, this whole situation of being separated
from your wife and kid, you're on stage all the time.
Does this change your mindset in any way and does
this change your mindset of how you protect you and
your band?
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Well, you know, my drummers said yesterday, you know, he said,
you know, he said, I've trained for this all my
life and I don't have my beer with me.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
So I tell you what.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
I tell you what this does for me. I've always
if anybody's a fan of the band or they're they're.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
On, you know, on my page on social media. You
know how much I love my family.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
But I'll be honest with you, this, this makes me
more even more worried. It brings it to the forefront
in your mind of the things that could be or
the things that that the way things should be when
we were little, versus the way things are now and
the things we have to worry about, you know, being prepared.
How do you be prepared? You have a plan. And
(12:40):
I'll be honest with you, I think we've had a
plan about if things really go bad.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
In the world with my family, But this also.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Makes me want to put in a plan with my
family and with the band if things go at a
show or or something similar where it's not huge scale
on what to do and where we can meet and
how we can get through this.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It's scary, thank you, it's a shame. That's the world
we live in, Sean Wallace. So circused got and listen.
I got to say that I'm grateful that sewn Shawn
Wallace is not a man of his word. And here's
what I mean. He said years ago, not too long ago,
he said, yeah, that's it for me. I'm retiring from music,
no more soul Circus. Thankfully that didn't last very long.
(13:21):
Pulled you, hey, I pulled you back in. And yet
of course this is the famous Sean Wallace line that
comes after every gig, and that is I'm never drinking again.
Sean Wallace. We love we love Circus. Thank you so much,
and thank god that you and the band are okay, okay,
(13:42):
thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
You I don't know, I don't know how many times
I was on stage or doing a gig where an
entire bar got into a fight or the band got
into a fight with people that were at the place.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
But back then, you know, it was just a fight.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Maybe a chair would fly or something like that, but
there wasn't anybody with a gun pulling a gun.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
And where you have to fear for that.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
So now instead of getting into a scuffle in the
old days and you move on or you don't even react.
How many times you drink to keep drinking the beer
as the fight is going on, like you're not even
reacting to it, and now you've got to go. Does
someone have a gun? It's it's not I just got
Metro said, Matt is gonna come on?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Oh Massers, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No, no, yeah, I think yes, Matt is gonna come on.
He is in the neighborhood, so he's gonna stop, boss sweet.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
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Speaker 2 (20:28):
And but first the fairgrounds. What can you tell.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Us, Well, I can tell you that the community should
be extremely proud of their police department.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Amen to that wow which happen.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
I was impressed.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
I was out working overtime at the PGA detail at
the Hurstport Country Clip for the ISCO when the page
came out, and it's just one of those calls where
everybody goes. It doesn't matter what part of the city
you're patrolling, you go. And that's what your police department
did yesterday. When I got there, there was you know,
there was one hundred hundred and twenty police and fire
(21:02):
ems a state. I mean, everybody goes to that type
of call and and it's a privilege to see my
cohorts rushing to the unknown. But I'm going to tell
you what happened yesterday, and you're not gonna believe it
because it's very simple and I can understand how the
chaos ensuit.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Okay, here's what happened.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Forty thousand people packed into an arena for a girls
basketball tournament, over two thousand teams from across the country
for a girls basketball the largest tournament in the in
the country is going on. There, A ceiling tile falls
and hits a metal chair, causing a loud noise at
the same time that a woman is having a medical emergency.
(21:47):
Those two things combined created that chaos yesterday and turned
into an active aggressor.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
So people started running out of the building because they
heard the loud noise. Most likely he thought that it
was a gunshot, saw a woman in distress, and then
panic ensued and so people pulled the fire alarm. We're
confirming that this morning, and there were some doors that
had some damage, but that was just people trying to
(22:14):
get the hell out of there.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
The people got injured were trying to leave.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
Yeah, there was six injured. Two were transported. All the
injuries were from like trampling and falling and things.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Of that magic gosh.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
So that escalated to nine to one one calls for
service for an active aggressor at the fairgrounds with forty
thousand people prompting your police response. We learned pretty quickly
when there was no gunshots, what we call stimulus, no victims,
that it was not a legit active aggressor.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Thank god.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Your officers are trained to not small talk people. We're
trained to look for stimulus. We are listening for gunshots.
So when we show up on scene, we're in search mode,
and then when we hear gunshots, it's fast as you
can go. You're blowing past doors. You're not searching anymore,
You're going to the sound of gunshots. And we never
heard that yesterday.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
So again, a ceiling tile fell from the roof, smacked
in aluminium or metal chair at the same time that
there was a woman that was in medical distress. Yes,
the two combine to get what you had yesterday.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
So two plus two equals wow. Okay, But is that
symptomatic though? Is that symptomatic of the world that we
live in?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Correct, it is, it is.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
But I'm going to tell you this, your police department
can't afford to look at it that way. We have
to respond every single time, like the way we responded yesterday.
The second a cop goes hats crap right, No one's
gonna shoot up a girls basketball tournament. No one's gonna
shoot up that school that's a good like this. No
one's gonna shoot up that church in Lexington yesterday morning.
(23:52):
The second that your police don't respond the way that
we do, we're eve all day and so we can't
afford to do that, and so I was really proud
of the men women of Bell and pd Man they
were doing.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I didn't do anything.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
I stood around and was tweeting a little bit, trying
to let the media know where to go and where
we were going to brief them, and trying to let
the public know on our social which brings me to
another point. I would want to caution your listeners to
watch watching what's going on on these scan pages, these
these scanner pages that listen to our scanners and then
make a Facebook post about it. Because I've been a
con I've been a cop for sixteen years. I've been
(24:24):
dispatched to thousands and thousands of calls for service. I
can tell you unequivocally it's very rare that what we
get dispatched to is exactly what we end up finding out.
What we saw everything online yesterday, from people being killed
too yeah, to we know who the suspect is, to
shots were being fired. I have it confirmed, and I'm thinking,
(24:45):
where the hell did all this come from? They heard
it on a scanner maybe, or they heard it from
word of mouth, or they saw it on some well.
I got a text from somebody that's there that said
this man, social media is the devil something.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
So it definitely is. When we were talking with Sean
Wallace from so Sarckers earlier who was performing Kentucky Kingdom,
they got pulled back all the way Kentucky Kingdom and
good on Kentucky Kingdom as well, because they made sure
everybody was safe. But I gotta ask you, at some
point on social media, I was starting to see face, Well,
we have a suspect in custody. Was all of that?
(25:19):
BS two? There is no suspect or is there?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
We detained a guy.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
You detained a guy that was acting a little suspicious
out in the parking lot, but he was he was
crazy guy, I'll be honest with you. He was off
his meds and he was just being erratic in a
in a situation where he's probably not the best spot
to be erratic. So we did detain somebody, but really
quickly we learned this guy needs.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Just ronical medical help. Okay, we're able to get him.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
That do these these are citizens with Facebook pages that
listen to Scanner, that comment on it undred Okay, so
do that dude? Does those people cause people to call
nine to one one?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Okay, so some of the calls yesterday were probably people
that weren't even there.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Yes a hundred, it's you know what it is.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
It's worried family members that have people at Kentucky Kingdom,
that have people at the tournament that are calling us saying, hey,
I'm seeing this on social media, and you know, they're
creating some more havoc there, just like I want the
public to know that we will get you the information
when it's time, but we have work to do first.
(26:22):
Our job was to flush out the South wing and
the North wing in the Skybridge and make sure there was.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Nobody bleeding, dying and actively shooting.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Right.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Once we get that done, we will address everybody else.
But everybody wants to know what's going on so quickly,
and the rumor spread so quick and like Kentucky Kingdom,
we had calls for service of an active aggressor at
Kentucky Kingdom. While I was standing at gate one yesterday
at the Fair and ex Post Center, nothing was I
was like, multiple shots are heard of Kentucky Kingdom and
I was like, that's Kentucky Kingdom right there. I don't
(26:49):
I don't hear any gunshots. What the hell's going on. Okay,
to your point.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I had no knowledge that anything else was going on
at the fair grounds. I'm not your sports enthusiasts, sure,
but I didn't know that this basketball term was going on.
And the only information I had, which was coming straight
from social media, was it was all at Kentucky Kingdom, yeah,
when in fact it wasn't even near it. They were
just making sure that their patrons were safe.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, it seems like Kentucky Kingdom.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
It was a bleedover effect from what That's probably a
bad pun when we're talking about active aggressor, to be honest,
but it was an effect that happened because of the
fair and expost Center, the Exposition Center, you know, we
went into were we had a helicopter over Kentucky Kingdom immediately, yeah,
and was like there's people eating at restaurants. We don't
see anything crazy. And then and then people started evacuating
(27:38):
on their own, right, L ANDPD didn't make the call
to close Kentucky Kingdom, right, okay, people were like we're
out of here, We're done for the day. And then
we had a little bit of a traffic issue. Back
to your point, real quick, Dwhite, I would say, if
you're going to monitor social media for stuff, I would
monitor just verified yeah, verified stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Our Twitter.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
Anytime there's a crisis L ANDPD Twitter is the place
to go because we're putting live updates on there for
the media and the public to see.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
I'd stay away from scanner pages.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
It's weird to think of back in the day when
we just had landlines. To you all the police were
going off very little information to now you're trying to
weave through the too much information.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
It's disinformation.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
It's not too much, it's dis and it makes our
job a little bit harder because sometimes we chase our tail.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Okay, so now you've got the fair coming up and
you have the concerts? Is this so, what do we
learn from this situation? Okay, those are two pretty big
events with a lot of people. You all responded in perfection.
How do we learn from that on these next two events?
Speaker 7 (28:38):
I mean, just having boots on ground I think is
a big thing. There were some officers that were working
security for the detail. They weren't LMPD, and but it's
just not enough. You know, we can't be everywhere. And
I understand how this happened. You hear a loud noise
in a venue and people are unequivocally trained, conditioned to
think active aggressor. And it's a sad world that we
(28:59):
live in, but it is the reality.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Uh God. Going to social media, Zach says that he
was there actually officiating games for a run for the Roses,
and he says LMPD was there in minutes on and
off duty. Yeah, and he said it was quite impressive,
and it was quite impressive what you all do. And
I hate, I hate even speaking of this event, but
you know, it's just proven. With the bank shooting, well,
(29:25):
you know, I mean that response was something unreal.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
Well we had we have old national on our in
the back of our mind, but then there was an
active aggressor in Lexington yesterday. People that was on people's
minds too, just because they ran a basketball game. I
mean there was multiple dead. You know, yeah, it's it's
it's on our minds, it is. But I just want
I want your listeners to know they should be proud
of your police department.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
We're doing the right thing. We're rushing to the sounds
of gunfire.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
And we need people to do that and I need
you to accept that challenge and come to LMPD dot
dot com, LMPD jobs dot com except the challenge and
be a part of something great, because that's what's going
on here within your police department should be proud.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
You said before we went to break in, I told
you not to tell us until we were live. You
said you won't believe. Yeah what And I would have.
I would have never gotten there in a million years
that a tile fell and hit a metal chair and
a woman was stressed.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Actually, people put those two differs.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Actually, I texted you yesterday and I said, I bet
you was a ceiling tile and a chair, if you
remember I did say that I did. And by the way, John,
we're gonna push real it into years to after afternoons
eleven o five. Uh, but I gotta tell you it's
quite impressive. The helicopter was there with I mean, your
(30:43):
response time was impeccable. But just to get on the
scene and then the pandemonium of when people think there's
an active aggressor, I can't only imagine. I talked, I
told the story earlier in the nine o'clock hour. I
had a friend of mine, she was out there with
her daughter. She makes it from the car. She's getting
(31:03):
ready walk into Kentucky Kingdom. And again this was not
where the suspicion was going on, but people were running
out of Kentucky Kingdom because they had bad information. Sure,
she starts running a family that she doesn't even know,
invites them here, get in our car. We'll get you.
Speaker 7 (31:18):
That's awesome, isn't That's something Little stories like that always
pop up.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
But let's go back to what you dealt with. You
show up on the scene and everybody is me, me, me,
saved me to the point this is the flip side
of that coin, to the point where people are actually getting trampled.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
Yeah, we had one woman fall down an escalator. Another
woman rolled her ankle pretty good. But see it's not
just the police that respond, you know, on active aggressors.
We trained with the fire department and EMS as a team.
The three agencies get together and we have tactics on
how we respond to these. Used to be like the
police go in, we neutralize the threat, and then we
(31:54):
waved the first response. The first responders in fire and
MS come triage people. We don't have time to do
that in a legit active aggressor scenario. So guess who
comes with us. Fire and EMS come in to the
active aggressor scenario with us. We have an instant command
protocol system.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Okay. There there's like.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
If it's a fire department, if it's this, yeah it's us,
it's whoever we can.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Change to show up.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Hey, this is our case. Back off, Yeah, get out
of here.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
But the fire department in the MS they built, they
have teams that come in with officers. We deploy them
from a staging area into the into the thing and
then we'll that way they can triage inside and save life.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
The fair grounds have a police officer or police squad.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, I know they have a jail because I've been
in it all.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
They have a hell of a police department, Okay, and
there most of them are retired l MPD and they
were with us like it was. It was a thing
of beauty yesterday from a communications standpoint, because I'm there
with the LMPD commander that's in charge with the fire captains,
in charge with em s that's in charge.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
With the fair ground.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
People were all in one area making decisions and things
are happening fluid, you know, just seamlessly. The only problem
that we really had was the traffic jam of getting
everyone from the Expo Center and Kentucky Kingdom out at
the same time. We opened all the gates, left officers
of gates and just rushed everybody out.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
It took some time.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
It was okay, but it's not just getting there. I'm
glad you brought that up, because I would have forgot
about this. Sean Waller so Circus was talking about the
experience yesterday. Not only is it you all have to
get to the scene of what you think as an
active aggressor or active shooter, but you all have you
also have to steal off the exits, and you did that, yeah,
to the point where there was there was nothing left
(33:39):
to chance on this.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Well, on this one, we actually wanted everybody out of there.
You know, we don't. We don't want forty thousand people
to shelter in place. If you didn't witness it and
you're not injured, get out of there like you're just
another body in our way and potentially another victim if
there really was an active aggressor. So honestly, we opened
all the doors, and then when we learned really quick
there was no showcasings, no blood trails, no five hundred
(34:03):
calls for service that people be. It was a lot
different than the phone calls we got from old Dashall.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah, okay, Matt, can you stay for the next break
and do really in the years and they talk about
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