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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, welcome in our number two, the Tony and
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We've been telling you about this segment for a couple
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about the subject we're about to talk to. Now. We
have a native Kentuckian from right here in Jefferson County.
He was born and reared at gal Ron Brothers Dairy
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Farm in Valley Station Ouside, the largest dairy farm in
Kentucky at the time. He graduated from Murray State University,
where he played football and he ushered in the Howard
Schnellenberger area by beating my beloved Cardinals at Cardinals Station
or at Cardinal Stadium. And I was there.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Fairground field ground sales, worst astro turf in the United
States of America.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
You'll have to have one of the most important parts.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, baby Ed moved on. He's active duty Navy Seal
Commissioned Office are spanning three decades. He served on seven
seal teams in units, including twice as Seal Team six,
leading special operations, sensitive operations, classified missions all over the
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world from the South end to the world. He is
a Navy seal also an Army ranger, one of the
very few to have done that.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And that's in a very impressive resume. But I have
one question for you. Have you ever torn Achilles tendon?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I haven't. I gotta. I gotta thank my German genetics,
hard work and clean living. You gotta try that.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
The latter is the problem. You know, I can't.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
You know I can't help you there.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
All right, So Kathain galla On, thank you for coming.
Four time Bronze Star Medal recipients. So ed, let's get
right into it. We wanted to talk to you today.
You were referred to us, and I'm so glad that
we got to meet. But let's jump into the latest
situation in the Middle East as it evolves, the twelve
Day War. I guess is what we're calling that. Your
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thoughts on that initially and how it ended?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
All right, it's not ended. I want to go back.
If I could listen at a larger level, they'll call
it to twelve day War. But it's going on right
now as we speak. Guaranteed the Israelis are doing the
kind of things on the ground and in the area
to set the conditions to monitor the Iranians and what
they're doing.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It wasn't only the US strikes, and I want to
talk about that for a minute. There's a lot of
quibbling about what really happened in the result of the strikes.
At a higher level, here's the key. We took decisive action.
We demonstrated a will and a capability to act. And
you might recall the President said, well, I might do
something in two weeks, but he really acted when the
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conditions were right. So he deferred to the planners, folks
that I want to give credit to you know, which
I did for you at one time as a professional career,
a military officer. So with respect to that, he defer
to them to set the conditions. To remember that bit
of a deception that they did. Guaranteed that came from
people that work in classified environments said look, boss, here's
what we can do. They did that very professionally, laid
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out the courses of action and plan that so that
at a high level was decisive. Never mind the quibbling
of was it or obliterated or destroyed or for how
many days? And all that. At a high level, we
demonstrated to the Iranians and also the people watching Chinese,
Russia and North Korea and other adversaries that we will
act and we will act in an unpredictable manner. So
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in some the Trump administration pushed them to turns poker
chips back on the table, similar to President Reagan when
he came in. And we needed that badly, or we're
going to sleep walk right into World War three. And
that's not hype. So now let me unpick out a
little bit more. Remember it wasn't only the strikes. Credit's
got to be given to the Israelis. They neutralize their ability,
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their anti aircraft ability, and their ability to detect us.
I want to add a caveat. There was some talk
about we did that undetected. Russia and China have capabilities
they might not have wanted to divulge and may have
well known that we launched and what we're doing, primarily
because of their space based capabilities, but they didn't want
to vulge that they had that, so they didn't tell
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the Iranians, if you follow me, So we shouldn't overestimate
about how clandestine or covert we were about that. But
the bottom line is we got to celebrate it. It
was a brilliant striking and op I want to finish
on the Israelis. Remember what else they did. They basically
took out the entire Iranian military leadership. Imagine all of
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our chairmists joint and all of our key commanders. That
was a disruption and a psychological operation. Not only that,
who else did they take out all the primary nuclear
material scientists. So there's far more than the bombs in there.
There's a larger strategic impact. But now beware, do not
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fall into the trap of mirror imaging our projection say well,
we did all this, it's only twelve day war. It's
we're going to sue for peace now. Oh no, Surrey, Bob,
I've got a list here of three pages of what
the Iranians have done from the time from the Bay
Root bombing, which was again the prototype vehicle born improvised
explosive device that started that entire area in nineteen eighty,
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two hundred and forty one Great Americans died, the largest
non nuclear detonation on the battlefield in history. When that occurred,
equal like twelve thousand pounds. But to finish that piece
out is so Now we're in a phase of watching
guaranteed the Iranians you're looking at passes prolog. And I'm
no academic, as you know, I'm a fifth generation Farmer
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crew military officer. Thanks for that introduction. It was an
honor and privilege to serve and lead those great Americans.
But with respect to that passes prologue, they've cheated at
everything they've ever done. Could I talk about a Jason
POA for a minute, so called deal again by my understanding,
and look it up. It's unclassified and I won't divulge
anything classified recognized, and I still work for you as
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a senior advisor for Special Operations and government national Security.
The JCPOA specifically disallowed inspection of military sites in Iran.
Think about that. I'm not done. It specifically left out
their ballistic missile program. Why did they have ballistic missiles
to put a nuclear weapon on it to fire at
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Israel and to reach Europe? It was also left out. Also,
there was a cave on in there, as I remember
that it was they had They got roughly twenty four
days notice of any inspection. So there was no no
notice anytime anyways, So they would sanitize a sich. So
this would this would be like you have a member
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in your family it's an alcoholic. You said, hey, we're
going to give you twenty four days till we search
your car. Oh, by the way, we're never going to
look in your room, right, but everywhere else's game. So
it was very flawed. Yes, I hear a lot of
celebration of regrettably, the facts aren't always laid out about that.
I'm going to go back to higher level. The Iranians
had cheated at everything they've ever done. Let's also remember this,
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to put a bow on it, they are led by
a cleric. A cleric he sees the world through the
lens of a Quran. They have an elected president, but
he answers to the cleric. Right, so sometimes that gets
confusing to the American public that you know, it may
not make sense, but everyone in the US, in the
Iranian government answers to that cleric. And remember what he
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just did, fought was fought, was he issued fought with
many many will act on that in terms of taking
action because it's considered a clerical religious ruling that has
indicted someone in almost a semi religious legal way. And
there's experts gon to being to that better than me.
But it's bad news story. In other words, he hadn't blinked.
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You might recall he was celebrating, you know, we slapped
your face, We did this, we won, and so forth.
So he sees everything through a different lens. So to
finish that out, I would not declare victory, not that
you did. I wouldn't call it a twelve day war.
And again I come with a special ops lens and
a master's in military intelligence. And also you sent me
to the war. Call it to think and that strategically
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the war is ongoing. You know, here's three pages of
what they've done past. They'll pick and choose, and right
now they're they're planning and picking and choose and what
they're going to do next.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
When you when you enrich uranium, then the shelf life
starts to go. Or so I believe you're the expert,
you might know, could this cease fire just to be
a let's try to reload and rebuild and start enriching
uranium if we.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Use pass this Prolou absolutely absolutely right, The great news
is those strikes basically hit their oak Ridge type complex
right as they were trying to do their Manhattan project.
So it was very decisive in terms of the ones
they hit. As an aside, our oak Ridge I meet
initially had five sites separated by ridge lines down there,
you know, because they weren't sure what was going to
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happen at each one and if it was a.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Catastrophe, started the Second World WARLD yet started.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Second word of the Manhattan projects. So with respect to that,
those strikes are very decisive and we hit centers of gravity.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I want to bounce off that you said decisive strikes.
Let's talk about the psychological aspect of when the when
the leaders were taken out by the Israelis, they were
super surgical strikes, meaning taking out one apartment, not taking
out the rest of the neighbors. That has to wear
on the Iranians that the technology that they I mean,
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they're out gunned, They're out everything I would imagine or not,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
The Iranians. Yeah, yeah, but men, some of them aren't
going to think as we would in terms of projection
in mirror imaging. So you have to you have to
factor in there's some of them that will factor in
in shilah to use the term, it doesn't matter to them.
There's others that are going to be somewhat would you
consider reasonable, what would you would expect to do is
certainly there would be a fracture within the Iranian government
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with respect of some folks that might be more reasonable.
And you might remember we had a great opportunity. It
was a two thousand and nine the Green Revolution, and
they were on the streets as I recollect in that timeframe,
with a potential revolution or uprising, and they were crushed. Yeah,
by the Iranian Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Well, we all see those pictures of the of the
late sixties of women in universities in mini skirts and
in their books and all that, So we wish it
would go back to that. I want to ask about
the Saudis, where are they our allies and where do
they play in this role in the Middle East with US,
Israel and the rest of the rest of the folks.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, I'd answer it like this, The Mid East is
a game of thrones. If I could, and it's a
mend'sa game.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Great analogy.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
We could go down here to Uvl and it would
be an entire undergraduate degree and studying the fractures and
the fissures and so forth and so on. And with
respect to what the administration is doing with the Abraham
Courts and trying to enlarge Thowse is strategically brilliant. I
want to throw something else out to the advocacy of
rebuilding Gaza similar to what we did. And people forget
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how did we win World We learned a lesson. We
senior military leadership who advise senior elected and appointment leaders.
And I couldn't be having this conversation with you back
when I was Commodore Gawerun or Capital Gowerund or even
Lieutenant Gowern because of the constraints put upon me as
an activity military officers. But remember how we lost World
War One. We did not go back and rebuild. We
suppressed Germany. What was a treaty for sales and we
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crushed them within twenty years. They had the most powerful
military in the world. Ye right, And people just kept ignoring,
well it's okay, and they started what annexing territory and
when you appease them, look what we got. And so
I want to I want to I want.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
To put us that tie into the Saudist Well, what.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I want to pull that into what's going on in
the Israel and the Mid East writ large, is we've
got to realign and rebuild over there and pull folks
in to expand those accords in the same way we
rebuilt after World War Two after learning a lesson to
finish that out. Thanks Ton, yeah to learning that lesson
because we had we had we real built Europe and
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we rebuilt also Japan and then we stayed. Now we
don't need to stay in the Mid East. We need
our surrogates to do that. Like the Saudis, We need
them to buide on it. What do they want? They
want trade, commerce and prosperity, okay there, and that is
that's why economic.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Are they really are partners is what I'm asking? Or
are they a bad actor behind our back?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I'll speak to it in this way. Their interest is economic.
There's national, fire, diplomaticum, informational, military, and economic. I would
argue they're interested is in prosperity and that's where we
can win the day. So it was genius to go
over there and have that meeting with the Mid East
and bring in the business folks and do those agreements. Also,
I want to give credit when we went to the
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NATO meeting recently. We had muscle because the strikes in Iran.
What was the most key thing that came out of
those NATO meetings if you're Russia, China and North Korea
the five percent promise by the NATO countries to yeah,
they're spending double it. Oh, that was That was key
and strategic.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It's a game change, right, it needed to happen.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
We need to.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I want to rewind a couple of minutes ago. Tony
brought this up. It was in my notes as well,
talking about the pictures you see from the nineteen sixties
of our Ran I've seen video of Frank Sinatra, the
chairman of the performing in Iran nice arena, everybody dress skirts,
the whole bit. What percentage of our Iranians want to
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go back to that. I know they tried to revote
and they were crushed, So I mean, I would imagine
a message was saying, you never try to uprise again.
In your opinion, what percentage of the Iranian population is
against the way they're living now under this law?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
It appears a minority. I don't have the numbers on
that we probably got some folks at UFL can answer
that better than I, but it appears a minority. So
they have iron hand cleric construct control in that country.
So it would be the will of the people. It
is what we would encourage. And again we missed a
great opportunity in two thousand and nine and then somehow
supporting that directly an interact.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Do they suppress the Internet and all that stuff in Irans?
So understanding, yes, yes, so they can't get online and
watch YouTube and how everyone else is living.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I would say this, there are workarounds, as I understand it,
but by and larger suppressed. Yeah, and you know, and
back to their history, they are also historically great traders,
They prosperity, you know, to your point about their appearances,
they are very interested in being you know, modern for
lack of better term. But again they've got since the
over throw of the Shaw in nineteen seventy nine, they've
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gone the direction of the iototal ruling a cleric and
he sees the world through the lens of a Kuran.
And remember I would characterize him as a suicide bomber
looking for a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
And so you're right, absolutely it is. I asked somebody
that ran the museum of the Jewish Museum over at
the Baptist Seminary, and I said, has there ever been
peace in the Middle East? And it was live television.
He paused for the longest time, and I guess he
thought any went no, not for any significant time.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Good, great point. We need to have a wider lens
and just what happened in the twelve days and step
back and remember past this prologue. It is time now
to do a you know, change the Mid East because
the problem is Iran.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Ed Gallian is our guest here today. He is a
former Navy seal and commander of the Seals intelligence the
whole deal up and down. He is a good person
to lean on for these kind of subjects. To get
between the minutia and all the talk of the two
different sides of the news organization. You get one story
from one and the other story from another. So we're
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trying to get through that and decide what's happening twelve
day before we go to break twelve days war not over,
it's still happening.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yes, because there's other things going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I got it all right. So we're gonna take a
short break. We'll come back. We're gonna talk to Ed
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all right, we are back. El Gallron is our guest today,
former commander of the Navy Seals Intelligence the whole shot.
So we're asking questions that I think most people want
the answers to wait.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
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What pickles, baby.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
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Speaker 2 (17:29):
The family goes to food shows. The girls do have
an informed palette and they pick things to compliment the
vegetables out there coming out and see us, we got
corn coming out, our ears, the T shirt. The family
won't the family won't let any do that.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
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Speaker 2 (17:42):
That's a dollar out of the bed, Joe. But I'm
unskilled labor. You won't find me in the market. The
girls run the market. But the ladies picked those things.
But again, the we got some the braagships. We corned.
A lot of folks know about. We've been raising corn
in Kentucky for over one hundred years, so, like my
cousin says, we've done it wrong a couple of time,
so we know how to get it.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
So I've got two different kinds of pickles. I've got
the bread and butter that we love, but i also
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Speaker 6 (18:07):
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and I love spice, and this is a sweet fire,
so that means a sweet heat.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
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Speaker 1 (18:20):
You know you have a store at the farm so
people can buy.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
All these, Yes, it's a market for any folk.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
For me, we'll see online.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Uh, we'll call around farms. Okay, the vegetables are rolling
in the girls and man market lunch every day except
for Sunday eleven or two. We open after church and
the cafes open. Pet and Zoo's set up. A lot
of people think we're only opening the fall festival. No, no, no,
we open in mid April with the greenhouses. Fourteen.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
We were former navy seal or always the navy seal.
What's the navy shoe? Always the navy shoals? That're right,
just that you're a Navy.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Seal, just to say I'm a servant to our nation.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
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we gotta go, uh pull the cord. Where do you
want to start? Do you say stuff like well start
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Speaker 1 (19:47):
You got sixty seconds here. How many your best guests
without revealing any intelligence on America? How many sleeper cells
in the US from Iran or any other bad actors?
Would you guess?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Well, personal, let me answer like this. They're not sleeping.
All the folks that got in and the frankly, the
open border would have been a trojan horse. Our enemies
are thinking enemies. We did not catch the smart ones.
You might recall I mean they caught on what was
there was at least one of the Wagner Group, you know,
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famously the Russian paramilitary group Wagner Group better pronunciation, was
caught with a drone in his backpack. He wasn't coming
to look for airbnbs, all right, now, that's him, and
he's coming here to disrupt. Back to the Iranians and
other folks that we didn't catch the smart ones. Remember
what we when they say known god aways, there is
another category of the ones we don't know about, because
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they knew where to cross word, to distract and how
to get there. I would offer they're not in a basement,
they're not in an attic, they're not in a barn.
They're not hiding. They're out amongst us. They're doing the reconnaissance,
they're preparing. They're hiding in plain sight so they can
get placement and access. Some of them are probably working,
some of them are probably right around us. I don't
mean to cast cloud to doom or be hyperbolic about it,
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but you've got to not discount the fact that the
enemy's already here and then recognize the fact that how
many several hundred were on the known terrorist watch list.
You've got a factor in how imperfect the information is.
I have a master's degree in intelligence and have worked
with the intelligence communities because at the strategical level, that's
key factor of all our planning. So with respect to that,
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we don't know everything about those folks. So just because
you didn't have derogatory information or that they were involved
in something and doesn't mean that they weren't. We're relying
on countries that weren't very cooperative. Do you have some
information on these? So it's an imperfect database to start
with for the ones that we caught. But I'd come
full circle and say we didn't catch the smart ones.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Wow, uh yes, no, or maybe sleeper selling Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Let's just say it's highly possible.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Back after this on news radio eight forty whas five
said one eight four eighty four. Berth is on the
line already. We'll come back with your calls next. We
are here still talking to Ed galarn In, a Kentucky
native expert in military intelligence, and we're specifically talking about
the Middle East today and we're taking this is a segment.
We'll take phone calls from you. We wrapped up with
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the possibility of a sleeper sell in Kentucky on the
last break. So we're going to get your phone calls. Now,
ask your question and uh and we'll go to the
next one. We'll start with Bertha. You're up first. Bertha,
You're on news radio eight forty w h as Hi.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Good morning, guys, and thank you so much for actually
bringing Ed on to give some insight. And thank you,
sir for your service from a very proud long term
federal employee. So, actually two little questions. The first question
is do you think that the other that some of
the other small countries that are seeing what's happening, you know,
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with ran and the bombings, you know, do you think
it's really making them think it's like, oh, we don't
want to get into this at all. And second off, Mike,
there's raccoons that have destroyed my corn this year in
my large gardens and I have a lot of squash
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and we have I'm a longtime Kentucky girl gardener, so farmer.
I got squash borers this year and I usually circle
my you know, third acre of corn with the squash
because they don't like the little barbs on the vines. Well,
evidently the raccoons decided they're just gonna make a dive
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for it in the bad squash. So do you have
any ideas?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
All right, let's say, Bertha, hang up, He'll answer your
You are an expert in both these, I hope.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
All right?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Okay, okay, well, I don't want to say I'm an expert.
But Bertha, we've done it wrong enough. Like my cousin
says that, every now and then we get it right.
But Berth, I got some bad news for you. Could
you throw in the towel on your garden and just
come on out to Guy Ryan's and get.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
What we got.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
We've got. We've got what you call compara the advantage.
I don't want to make too heavy of a sales pitch,
but come on out to get a bike. We do
that every day from eleven to two and uh, grow
flowers and enjoy that.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
But you know, back to that, you know, for the coons,
you're gonna have to have dogs, all right, and then
you're gonna have to do a little research for your squash.
And depending on what's in and around you, there are
some items you can get. Maybe go down the Southern
States and ask those folks or you can go to
the county extension office here, here, or any Every county
has an extension office and they will help you with
what University of Kentucky says, here's sort of a battle
plan because there's others, some dependencies, but at a high level,
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birth of come on out and ask for me. I'm
never in the market. I'm unskilled labor. The girls are
on the market. I'm out on a tractor truck. Tony
was bothering me yesterday. I had to stop the tractor.
Profit margins are then on the farm. I don't care
what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
The first question she had, yes.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
And that's why I said, those are a question.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Let's read it with this smaller countries. Uh, does it
give them pause of what we did?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Absolutely, it'll it's a. It's a They are now realizing
that we have put to Terrens chips back on the
table and that we will play a part and we
will act decisively. So with respect to that, they will
calculate their alignments. And remember what we're fighting against is
China is doing a Cold War type strategy the way
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we did it against the Soviets and defeated them. Remember
we didn't defeat the Soodivits by a battle. We defeated
them by a strategy under President Reagan. We crushed them
economically while parallel concurrent, we were using diplomatic, informational and military
power to position ourselves. But it was the economic power
that beat the Soviets. That's what the Chinese are trying
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to do to us. To come back to your question, yes, ma'am,
people are paying attention, they're making judgments. We need to
win the diplomatic, informational and that would be the soft
power aspect.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
All right, let's go to the phone lines. Five seventy one,
eight four eighty four is the phone number if you
have a question for Ed Kirk. You are on the
radio with us. Now your question.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Thank you for your service, captain. From the intelligence part
of it, and looking forward, how do we keep from
going into w W three?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Oh great question question. I'm afraid we're sleep walking into
it right now. And again you the taxpayer, And let
me add this those various degrees and such. I didn't,
Ed Goweran did not ask to go back to college.
You know you might remember famously Murray Racer undergrad masters
inag before I went off official candidate school when President
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Reagan was rebuilding our nation in the service. But if
you look at history, we're in the most volatile time
since pre World War Two. The contours an almost exactly overlay.
Remember pre World War Two, it was Nazi Germany, it
was Communist Soviet Union, it was the fascists in Italy,
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and it was the fanatics in Japan. All right, those
are the four Now look who are against the Chinese
nationalistic chi As he has declared he is going to
reunite China and read and take it back to what
two thousand years ago power, and they want Taiwan back,
will come back to that North Korea, and they have
declared Kim Jong Unn he's going to reunite the South
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the you know Korea in terms of the South Peninsula.
You got Russian Putin's declared he wants to rebuild the
Soviet Empire. And you have Iran that wants to dominate
the Mid East and also destroy the US in Italy.
So with those contours overlaid, we're facing the Four Horsemen apocalypse.
Hold that parallel and concurrent, there is a massive espionage
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campaign going on that we hear about daily. Remember the
FBI and other intelligence community leadership CIA and others has
testified unclassified in front of Congress about the massive espionage
i e. Spying and you know not just the balloon.
And oh, by the way, that balloon that overflew US
was not looking for Airbnb. It was a giant vacuum
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cleaner to vacuum up for future targeting and understanding both
kinetically and non kinetically. Think about it's soaking up all
the airwaves and other thing has got a huge, huge
solar power array on it. And it would be interesting
if the administration would release what was really found when
that balloon was recovered to inform the American public to
kind of threat we face. And that's just one element
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of their espionage. So there's a huge esmionage campaign exactly
like Nazi Germany did pre World War Two that we're fighting.
So to come full circle, if we don't put deterrence
back on the table, and remember deterrence is in the
eyes of the beholder, we've got to convince them we
will take We have the will and capability to take
the action. That's why the strikes in Iran were not
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only important at the at the tactical level to disrupt
their nuclear weapons program, but at the strategic level, at
a much wider level, that was where the impact was
more important.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
All right, let's keep the phone calls come in five, seven, one, eight,
four eighty four ask ed here in this segment, let's
go to Elmer. Elmer, you're on news radio eight forty whas.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Oh, yes, thank you, thanks for your serch this Scott Ryan.
I had a question what it is. I had looked
into this fourteenth state at this point have of laws
that our adversaries cannot buy property. Kentucky's not one of them.
And I talked to a friend of mine that's a
state represented that they tried it a few years ago
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and they rejected it. And I went forward again with
my representative, and do you have an opinion on that?
Or is that how do you feel about that? Or
or do you you know, want to express yourself?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I'll start with this. I can tell you that I
can tell you firsthand Chinese are not borrow buying farmland
and Kentucky to get rich. The profit margins are too thin, right,
We're struggling out the right right. So I say that
little bit tongue in cheek, but that's truthful. They're being
very back to esme knowedge, They're being very strategic. Look
at where they buy to include near Fort Campbell.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Wow, sir.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
To answer your question, it goes back to elections. You know,
who are we electing that understands that kind of threat
and what are we doing about As I understand, the
administration has taking that on and the Department of Agriculture
starting some efforts. It was just announce here recently. And
oh by the way, we hosted the new Secretary of
Agriculture out at Galerian Market just days after she was
an ounce back in February. We're glad to have her
at a family farm, appreciate her coming, and so I
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look forward to what they're going to do to help
us to protect that SOT. At a high level, we
we should have the checks and balances and in the
controls to understand who is buying this ground for what reason.
And although we want to have the freedoms here, it
is prudent to protect ourselves against our adversary.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I think I'm taking crazy pills to think that another
country can buy property in land in another country. They
wouldn't allow us to do that.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Well, they think about having open borders for four years,
and not only that, companies that are fronts for other companies,
and there's so many cutouts that folks that are actually
the company are unwitting.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
They don't even realize it. Not doing a deep dive
on the intelligence aspect. But things are not always what
they seem, and so don't And I know this is
going to pop y'all's bubble. You know, the media doesn't
always have the full story.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I will watched the news is twenty twenty because it's
it does me no good. But let me ask you,
after having open borders for four years, can it be corrected?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Well, that aspect would be the illegal immigrants. It's going
to take a herculean effort to do that, and it
would seem reasonable that if you're here, you're here legally.
You know, the laws are passed and you know they
can be debated, but they exist, so let's follow the law.
But back at a higher level, even before the open borders,
for over twenty years, China has been on this containment
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you know, the Belton Rolled Initiative. What they're doing, that's
their word for containment, what they're doing around the globe
and their espionage against US, you know, in terms of
full throttle Esmiena. Remember there's a number of Chinese that
were caught flying drones in the US and they're not
doing that to check out Airbnb. So they were caught.
Some of them have been tried, others convicted spying and otherwise.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
All right, I would love to ask you about the UK.
It just seems like we were partners and a lot
of stuff and now it just seems to be us
in the story. But let's go to a net and net.
You're on news radio eight forty whs. You have a
question for Ed go.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yes, I'm sort of a frustrated citizen who really doesn't
know what to do to We have no power to
influence these kinds of things. I see the foreign policy
flipping back and forth between Democrat and Republican, and that's
what seems to be working as in these bad directions
like the possibility of World War three, and it is
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so very frustrating when the policies just it's like a sailboat,
you know, tipping on a stormy sea, and there doesn't
seem to be anything for a normal everyday citizen to
do about it.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Okay, good question. What can we do. Thank you be
an informed, critical ing it.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I want to thank you for you. I want to
thank you for your your sentiment, young lady. I really
appreciate that. For those of its that served and were
the uniform, I will tell you that the secret weapon
in the United States of America, and this is not cheesy,
is not an Area fifty one, not Seal Team six.
It's an informed, critical thinking voter. Yes, ma'am. Talk to
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your friends, talk to your relatives, be informed, and so
with respect to that, you will have an impact. So
thank you for that question.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Any thoughts on the British what, what do they how
do they help us?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Well, of course some of that would a lot of
that would be classified, but they and Israel are our
two biggest partners, frankly, and they had been historically all
the way back to World War two. Uh So we
got to give them kudos for that.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
And the and the biggest difference between the Second World
War War now is that we've owned the skies for
a couple of decades. I mean we do, right, I
mean there is nobody that can compete with our air force,
UK's air Force or Israel's air force.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Well, if you were to categorize at all three at once.
We could probably it would depend and gain air supremacy.
But we need not overstate that China has massive combat power.
Quantity has a quality all its own, and when you
look at the numbers and what they've done, they could
isolate and gain comparative combat power over US. Saying an
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area like Taiwan.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
This question comes to us from social media. Keith asked
how long would take to rebuild a nuclear program for
I Ran?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Great, great question. Uh, that'll have to be determined by
intelligence folks, and you can rest assured that Israel's working
hard on getting the exact details what's going on. As
an aside somewhat related to that, you can anticipate there's
going to be, for lack of a better term, a purge.
There's going to be a lot of suspicion within Iran
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about who might be an agent or who might have
you know, for lack of better term, compromised, you know,
some of their programs and so forth and so on.
So they're going to turn on themselves in some ways,
and then there's some disinformation operations that may occur to
you know, feed that. But to come back to the
actual the timeline. I wouldn't have that information, couldn't divulge
it if I did. But here's what you can take
to the bank. They will attempt to rebuild it full stop.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
The people over there just I just don't know. There's
difference between the government and people. We all know that, right,
And a lot of times we see, you know, because
back in the eighties and the seventies and eighties where
the sixties were doing the Cold War, and it was
the Russian government versus the Russian people, and we saw
how terrible they lived, and they wanted to get out
of that as soon as possible. They couldn't wait to
take that wall down and go capitalists. But one of
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the people, it's just it seems, it seems what is
your opinion of the general public of the Iranians the
iraqis you know, that's been a mess for the longest time.
The normal person that lives there just wants the same
things we do, right, raise a family in a safe neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I don't know if I can say it for all,
but let's go back to a Soviet Union, Russia. But
look what happened. Putin works himself back to power, and
look at where they are now. So for all the
hope that we had when the wall fell, and I
was wearing a uniform for you at that juncture as
a professional military officer, look at where we are now.
He's back in power. He wants to be the next czar.
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Now remember back to the full horsemen of the apocalypse.
Every one of them have a calendar. They know how
long they're going to be on this earth. Every one
of them have declared in value to vowed to do something,
you know, in terms of their legacy. I would be
paying attention to what they said, and we touched on
that earlier, all right, But to come back to what's
going on in Iran, I would call it there is
an opportunity here because, as the facts bear out, they
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are a minority led country by that cleric as opposed
to what is you would consider a democracy where you
have elected leadership. And again it gets confusing because they
do have an elected president and right now they have
an acting president. They got to go to an election
again because the other one died in a helicopter crash. Interestingly,
one of three helicopters crashed. It had all the markings
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of our good frenzy Israelis. But I have no first
hand knowledge that.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I'm gonna let you wrap up with this because you
got about sixty seconds here you talk about a colonel
for Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Let me go back to the threat of Iran. Since
they overthrew the Shaw in nineteen seventy nine, there is
an American from Bowl County, went to Southern High School
and went to the university level, Lieutenant Colonel Higgins Marine.
He was serving active duty as a UN observer in
Lebanon in the late eighties. He was captured by Iranian
back terrorists, tortured, executed. I set alert to rescue him
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as a young Navy seal officer with my team. We
never got the actionable intelligence. So the threat of Iran
comes all the way here to central Kentucky and rest
assured after those fought was they have a whole asymmetric
warfare arm. Remember they attempted to kill an assassinate folks
right here in the US. They're operating. Back to the
point about sleeper sales, they're not sleeping at all. They're
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out there picking out you know, when the getting a
better understanding of their targets and where their freedom of
action is to take advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Well, I apologize for making you sit in the air
conditioned studio today rather on a tractor ninety degree whether
I'm sure you're gonna lose.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
That one other thing nicely and called me mister Gallerin.
You gotta call me Ed. Mister Gallerin's uncle Bill ninety
four and a half. It works every day. Don't get
between uncle Bill and work. It'd be the wrong place.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
To get one more thing though, Ed, how do people
find the farm? Because you've got me interested in them?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Jurin Farms just just there in Shelby County. You can
get off an extra thirty two or eighty thirty five.
Look up galerind Farms. Can't miss it. We're only about
ten or fifteen minutes past the Altan mall. Everybody knows
that lambar. Come on out and see us. Bring the kids,
pet and zus O.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
Thank you.
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All right, welcome in our number two, the Tony and
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We've been telling you about this segment for a couple
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At the bottom of the hour. Round ten thirty five
will take your phone calls if you have any questions
about the subject we're about to talk to. Now. We
have a native Kentuckian from right here in Jefferson County.
He was born and reared at gal Ron Brothers Dairy
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Farm in Valley Station Ouside, the largest dairy farm in
Kentucky at the time. He graduated from Murray State University,
where he played football and he ushered in the Howard
Schnellenberger area by beating my beloved Cardinals at Cardinals Station
or at Cardinal Stadium. And I was there.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Fairground field ground sales, worst astro turf in the United
States of America.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
You'll have to have one of the most important parts.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, baby Ed moved on. He's active duty Navy Seal
Commissioned Office are spanning three decades. He served on seven
seal teams in units, including twice as Seal Team six,
leading special operations, sensitive operations, classified missions all over the
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world from the South end to the world. He is
a Navy seal also an Army ranger, one of the
very few to have done that.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And that's in a very impressive resume. But I have
one question for you. Have you ever torn Achilles tendon?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I haven't. I gotta. I gotta thank my German genetics,
hard work and clean living. You gotta try that.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
The latter is the problem. You know, I can't.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
You know I can't help you there.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
All right, So Kathain galla On, thank you for coming.
Four time Bronze Star Medal recipients. So ed, let's get
right into it. We wanted to talk to you today.
You were referred to us, and I'm so glad that
we got to meet. But let's jump into the latest
situation in the Middle East as it evolves, the twelve
Day War. I guess is what we're calling that. Your
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thoughts on that initially and how it ended?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
All right, it's not ended. I want to go back.
If I could listen at a larger level, they'll call
it to twelve day War. But it's going on right
now as we speak. Guaranteed the Israelis are doing the
kind of things on the ground and in the area
to set the conditions to monitor the Iranians and what
they're doing.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It wasn't only the US strikes, and I want to
talk about that for a minute. There's a lot of
quibbling about what really happened in the result of the strikes.
At a higher level, here's the key. We took decisive action.
We demonstrated a will and a capability to act. And
you might recall the President said, well, I might do
something in two weeks, but he really acted when the
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conditions were right. So he deferred to the planners, folks
that I want to give credit to you know, which
I did for you at one time as a professional career,
a military officer. So with respect to that, he defer
to them to set the conditions. To remember that bit
of a deception that they did. Guaranteed that came from
people that work in classified environments said look, boss, here's
what we can do. They did that very professionally, laid
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out the courses of action and plan that so that
at a high level was decisive. Never mind the quibbling
of was it or obliterated or destroyed or for how
many days? And all that. At a high level, we
demonstrated to the Iranians and also the people watching Chinese,
Russia and North Korea and other adversaries that we will
act and we will act in an unpredictable manner. So
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in some the Trump administration pushed them to turns poker
chips back on the table, similar to President Reagan when
he came in. And we needed that badly, or we're
going to sleep walk right into World War three. And
that's not hype. So now let me unpick out a
little bit more. Remember it wasn't only the strikes. Credit's
got to be given to the Israelis. They neutralize their ability,
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their anti aircraft ability, and their ability to detect us.
I want to add a caveat. There was some talk
about we did that undetected. Russia and China have capabilities
they might not have wanted to divulge and may have
well known that we launched and what we're doing, primarily
because of their space based capabilities, but they didn't want
to vulge that they had that, so they didn't tell
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the Iranians, if you follow me, So we shouldn't overestimate
about how clandestine or covert we were about that. But
the bottom line is we got to celebrate it. It
was a brilliant striking and op I want to finish
on the Israelis. Remember what else they did. They basically
took out the entire Iranian military leadership. Imagine all of
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our chairmists joint and all of our key commanders. That
was a disruption and a psychological operation. Not only that,
who else did they take out all the primary nuclear
material scientists. So there's far more than the bombs in there.
There's a larger strategic impact. But now beware, do not
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fall into the trap of mirror imaging our projection say well,
we did all this, it's only twelve day war. It's
we're going to sue for peace now. Oh no, Surrey, Bob,
I've got a list here of three pages of what
the Iranians have done from the time from the Bay
Root bombing, which was again the prototype vehicle born improvised
explosive device that started that entire area in nineteen eighty,
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two hundred and forty one Great Americans died, the largest
non nuclear detonation on the battlefield in history. When that occurred,
equal like twelve thousand pounds. But to finish that piece
out is so Now we're in a phase of watching
guaranteed the Iranians you're looking at passes prolog. And I'm
no academic, as you know, I'm a fifth generation Farmer
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crew military officer. Thanks for that introduction. It was an
honor and privilege to serve and lead those great Americans.
But with respect to that passes prologue, they've cheated at
everything they've ever done. Could I talk about a Jason
POA for a minute, so called deal again by my understanding,
and look it up. It's unclassified and I won't divulge
anything classified recognized, and I still work for you as
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a senior advisor for Special Operations and government national Security.
The JCPOA specifically disallowed inspection of military sites in Iran.
Think about that. I'm not done. It specifically left out
their ballistic missile program. Why did they have ballistic missiles
to put a nuclear weapon on it to fire at
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Israel and to reach Europe? It was also left out. Also,
there was a cave on in there, as I remember
that it was they had They got roughly twenty four
days notice of any inspection. So there was no no
notice anytime anyways, So they would sanitize a sich. So
this would this would be like you have a member
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in your family it's an alcoholic. You said, hey, we're
going to give you twenty four days till we search
your car. Oh, by the way, we're never going to
look in your room, right, but everywhere else's game. So
it was very flawed. Yes, I hear a lot of
celebration of regrettably, the facts aren't always laid out about that.
I'm going to go back to higher level. The Iranians
had cheated at everything they've ever done. Let's also remember this,
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to put a bow on it, they are led by
a cleric. A cleric he sees the world through the
lens of a Quran. They have an elected president, but
he answers to the cleric. Right, so sometimes that gets
confusing to the American public that you know, it may
not make sense, but everyone in the US, in the
Iranian government answers to that cleric. And remember what he
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just did, fought was fought, was he issued fought with
many many will act on that in terms of taking
action because it's considered a clerical religious ruling that has
indicted someone in almost a semi religious legal way. And
there's experts gon to being to that better than me.
But it's bad news story. In other words, he hadn't blinked.
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You might recall he was celebrating, you know, we slapped
your face, We did this, we won, and so forth.
So he sees everything through a different lens. So to
finish that out, I would not declare victory, not that
you did. I wouldn't call it a twelve day war.
And again I come with a special ops lens and
a master's in military intelligence. And also you sent me
to the war. Call it to think and that strategically
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the war is ongoing. You know, here's three pages of
what they've done past. They'll pick and choose, and right
now they're they're planning and picking and choose and what
they're going to do next.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
When you when you enrich uranium, then the shelf life
starts to go. Or so I believe you're the expert,
you might know, could this cease fire just to be
a let's try to reload and rebuild and start enriching
uranium if we.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Use pass this Prolou absolutely absolutely right, The great news
is those strikes basically hit their oak Ridge type complex
right as they were trying to do their Manhattan project.
So it was very decisive in terms of the ones
they hit. As an aside, our oak Ridge I meet
initially had five sites separated by ridge lines down there,
you know, because they weren't sure what was going to
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happen at each one and if it was a.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Catastrophe, started the Second World WARLD yet started.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Second word of the Manhattan projects. So with respect to that,
those strikes are very decisive and we hit centers of gravity.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I want to bounce off that you said decisive strikes.
Let's talk about the psychological aspect of when the when
the leaders were taken out by the Israelis, they were
super surgical strikes, meaning taking out one apartment, not taking
out the rest of the neighbors. That has to wear
on the Iranians that the technology that they I mean,
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they're out gunned, They're out everything I would imagine or not,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
The Iranians. Yeah, yeah, but men, some of them aren't
going to think as we would in terms of projection
in mirror imaging. So you have to you have to
factor in there's some of them that will factor in
in shilah to use the term, it doesn't matter to them.
There's others that are going to be somewhat would you
consider reasonable, what would you would expect to do is
certainly there would be a fracture within the Iranian government
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with respect of some folks that might be more reasonable.
And you might remember we had a great opportunity. It
was a two thousand and nine the Green Revolution, and
they were on the streets as I recollect in that timeframe,
with a potential revolution or uprising, and they were crushed. Yeah,
by the Iranian Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Well, we all see those pictures of the of the
late sixties of women in universities in mini skirts and
in their books and all that, So we wish it
would go back to that. I want to ask about
the Saudis, where are they our allies and where do
they play in this role in the Middle East with US,
Israel and the rest of the rest of the folks.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, I'd answer it like this, The Mid East is
a game of thrones. If I could, and it's a
mend'sa game.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Great analogy.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
We could go down here to Uvl and it would
be an entire undergraduate degree and studying the fractures and
the fissures and so forth and so on. And with
respect to what the administration is doing with the Abraham
Courts and trying to enlarge Thowse is strategically brilliant. I
want to throw something else out to the advocacy of
rebuilding Gaza similar to what we did. And people forget
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how did we win World We learned a lesson. We
senior military leadership who advise senior elected and appointment leaders.
And I couldn't be having this conversation with you back
when I was Commodore Gawerun or Capital Gowerund or even
Lieutenant Gowern because of the constraints put upon me as
an activity military officers. But remember how we lost World
War One. We did not go back and rebuild. We
suppressed Germany. What was a treaty for sales and we
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crushed them within twenty years. They had the most powerful
military in the world. Ye right, And people just kept ignoring,
well it's okay, and they started what annexing territory and
when you appease them, look what we got. And so
I want to I want to I want.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
To put us that tie into the Saudist Well, what.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I want to pull that into what's going on in
the Israel and the Mid East writ large, is we've
got to realign and rebuild over there and pull folks
in to expand those accords in the same way we
rebuilt after World War Two after learning a lesson to
finish that out. Thanks Ton, yeah to learning that lesson
because we had we had we real built Europe and
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we rebuilt also Japan and then we stayed. Now we
don't need to stay in the Mid East. We need
our surrogates to do that. Like the Saudis, We need
them to buide on it. What do they want? They
want trade, commerce and prosperity, okay there, and that is
that's why economic.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Are they really are partners is what I'm asking? Or
are they a bad actor behind our back?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I'll speak to it in this way. Their interest is economic.
There's national, fire, diplomaticum, informational, military, and economic. I would
argue they're interested is in prosperity and that's where we
can win the day. So it was genius to go
over there and have that meeting with the Mid East
and bring in the business folks and do those agreements. Also,
I want to give credit when we went to the
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NATO meeting recently. We had muscle because the strikes in Iran.
What was the most key thing that came out of
those NATO meetings if you're Russia, China and North Korea
the five percent promise by the NATO countries to yeah,
they're spending double it. Oh, that was That was key
and strategic.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It's a game change, right, it needed to happen.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
We need to.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I want to rewind a couple of minutes ago. Tony
brought this up. It was in my notes as well,
talking about the pictures you see from the nineteen sixties
of our Ran I've seen video of Frank Sinatra, the
chairman of the performing in Iran nice arena, everybody dress skirts,
the whole bit. What percentage of our Iranians want to
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go back to that. I know they tried to revote
and they were crushed, So I mean, I would imagine
a message was saying, you never try to uprise again.
In your opinion, what percentage of the Iranian population is
against the way they're living now under this law?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
It appears a minority. I don't have the numbers on
that we probably got some folks at UFL can answer
that better than I, but it appears a minority. So
they have iron hand cleric construct control in that country.
So it would be the will of the people. It
is what we would encourage. And again we missed a
great opportunity in two thousand and nine and then somehow
supporting that directly an interact.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Do they suppress the Internet and all that stuff in Irans?
So understanding, yes, yes, so they can't get online and
watch YouTube and how everyone else is living.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I would say this, there are workarounds, as I understand it,
but by and larger suppressed. Yeah, and you know, and
back to their history, they are also historically great traders,
They prosperity, you know, to your point about their appearances,
they are very interested in being you know, modern for
lack of better term. But again they've got since the
over throw of the Shaw in nineteen seventy nine, they've
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gone the direction of the iototal ruling a cleric and
he sees the world through the lens of a Kuran.
And remember I would characterize him as a suicide bomber
looking for a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
And so you're right, absolutely it is. I asked somebody
that ran the museum of the Jewish Museum over at
the Baptist Seminary, and I said, has there ever been
peace in the Middle East? And it was live television.
He paused for the longest time, and I guess he
thought any went no, not for any significant time.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Good, great point. We need to have a wider lens
and just what happened in the twelve days and step
back and remember past this prologue. It is time now
to do a you know, change the Mid East because
the problem is Iran.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Ed Gallian is our guest here today. He is a
former Navy seal and commander of the Seals intelligence the
whole deal up and down. He is a good person
to lean on for these kind of subjects. To get
between the minutia and all the talk of the two
different sides of the news organization. You get one story
from one and the other story from another. So we're
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trying to get through that and decide what's happening twelve
day before we go to break twelve days war not over,
it's still happening.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yes, because there's other things going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I got it all right. So we're gonna take a
short break. We'll come back. We're gonna talk to Ed
some more and Dwight. We're gonna we're gonna take some
phone calls if you have any questions. This will be
a couple of minutes. But if you want to wait
on the line, that's fine. Five seven, one, eight four
eighty four is the phone number.
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all right, we are back. El Gallron is our guest today,
former commander of the Navy Seals Intelligence the whole shot.
So we're asking questions that I think most people want
the answers to wait.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
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talk about something important.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
What pickles, baby.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
When did you all start the pickles? You have your
own pickle one. What do you get these?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
The family goes to food shows. The girls do have
an informed palette and they pick things to compliment the
vegetables out there coming out and see us, we got
corn coming out, our ears, the T shirt. The family
won't the family won't let any do that.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
That's a dollar.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
That's a dollar out of the bed, Joe. But I'm
unskilled labor. You won't find me in the market. The
girls run the market. But the ladies picked those things.
But again, the we got some the braagships. We corned.
A lot of folks know about. We've been raising corn
in Kentucky for over one hundred years, so, like my
cousin says, we've done it wrong a couple of time,
so we know how to get it.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
So I've got two different kinds of pickles. I've got
the bread and butter that we love, but i also
have the sweet fire.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Now one of those is for Tony, and I love pickles, yeah,
and I love spice, and this is a sweet fire,
so that means a sweet heat.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
He's got a little bit sweetness. And my man, all right, and.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
You know you have a store at the farm so
people can buy.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
All these, Yes, it's a market for any folk.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
For me, we'll see online.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Uh, we'll call around farms. Okay, the vegetables are rolling
in the girls and man market lunch every day except
for Sunday eleven or two. We open after church and
the cafes open. Pet and Zoo's set up. A lot
of people think we're only opening the fall festival. No, no, no,
we open in mid April with the greenhouses. Fourteen.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
We were former navy seal or always the navy seal.
What's the navy shoe? Always the navy shoals? That're right,
just that you're a Navy.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Seal, just to say I'm a servant to our nation.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Okay, here's my point. If somebodce comes up and they say, hey, ed,
we gotta go, uh pull the cord. Where do you
want to start? Do you say stuff like well start
seven clicks out.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
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farming at Kentucky Front. I speak fluent in Kentucky.
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Speaker 1 (19:47):
You got sixty seconds here. How many your best guests
without revealing any intelligence on America? How many sleeper cells
in the US from Iran or any other bad actors?
Would you guess?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Well, personal, let me answer like this. They're not sleeping.
All the folks that got in and the frankly, the
open border would have been a trojan horse. Our enemies
are thinking enemies. We did not catch the smart ones.
You might recall I mean they caught on what was
there was at least one of the Wagner Group, you know,
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famously the Russian paramilitary group Wagner Group better pronunciation, was
caught with a drone in his backpack. He wasn't coming
to look for airbnbs, all right, now, that's him, and
he's coming here to disrupt. Back to the Iranians and
other folks that we didn't catch the smart ones. Remember
what we when they say known god aways, there is
another category of the ones we don't know about, because
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they knew where to cross word, to distract and how
to get there. I would offer they're not in a basement,
they're not in an attic, they're not in a barn.
They're not hiding. They're out amongst us. They're doing the reconnaissance,
they're preparing. They're hiding in plain sight so they can
get placement and access. Some of them are probably working,
some of them are probably right around us. I don't
mean to cast cloud to doom or be hyperbolic about it,
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but you've got to not discount the fact that the
enemy's already here and then recognize the fact that how
many several hundred were on the known terrorist watch list.
You've got a factor in how imperfect the information is.
I have a master's degree in intelligence and have worked
with the intelligence communities because at the strategical level, that's
key factor of all our planning. So with respect to that,
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we don't know everything about those folks. So just because
you didn't have derogatory information or that they were involved
in something and doesn't mean that they weren't. We're relying
on countries that weren't very cooperative. Do you have some
information on these? So it's an imperfect database to start
with for the ones that we caught. But I'd come
full circle and say we didn't catch the smart ones.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Wow, uh yes, no, or maybe sleeper selling Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Let's just say it's highly possible.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Back after this on news radio eight forty whas five
said one eight four eighty four. Berth is on the
line already. We'll come back with your calls next. We
are here still talking to Ed galarn In, a Kentucky
native expert in military intelligence, and we're specifically talking about
the Middle East today and we're taking this is a segment.
We'll take phone calls from you. We wrapped up with
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the possibility of a sleeper sell in Kentucky on the
last break. So we're going to get your phone calls. Now,
ask your question and uh and we'll go to the
next one. We'll start with Bertha. You're up first. Bertha,
You're on news radio eight forty w h as Hi.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Good morning, guys, and thank you so much for actually
bringing Ed on to give some insight. And thank you,
sir for your service from a very proud long term
federal employee. So, actually two little questions. The first question
is do you think that the other that some of
the other small countries that are seeing what's happening, you know,
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with ran and the bombings, you know, do you think
it's really making them think it's like, oh, we don't
want to get into this at all. And second off, Mike,
there's raccoons that have destroyed my corn this year in
my large gardens and I have a lot of squash
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and we have I'm a longtime Kentucky girl gardener, so farmer.
I got squash borers this year and I usually circle
my you know, third acre of corn with the squash
because they don't like the little barbs on the vines. Well,
evidently the raccoons decided they're just gonna make a dive
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for it in the bad squash. So do you have
any ideas?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
All right, let's say, Bertha, hang up, He'll answer your
You are an expert in both these, I hope.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
All right?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Okay, okay, well, I don't want to say I'm an expert.
But Bertha, we've done it wrong enough. Like my cousin
says that, every now and then we get it right.
But Berth, I got some bad news for you. Could
you throw in the towel on your garden and just
come on out to Guy Ryan's and get.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
What we got.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
We've got. We've got what you call compara the advantage.
I don't want to make too heavy of a sales pitch,
but come on out to get a bike. We do
that every day from eleven to two and uh, grow
flowers and enjoy that.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
But you know, back to that, you know, for the coons,
you're gonna have to have dogs, all right, and then
you're gonna have to do a little research for your squash.
And depending on what's in and around you, there are
some items you can get. Maybe go down the Southern
States and ask those folks or you can go to
the county extension office here, here, or any Every county
has an extension office and they will help you with
what University of Kentucky says, here's sort of a battle
plan because there's others, some dependencies, but at a high level,
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birth of come on out and ask for me. I'm
never in the market. I'm unskilled labor. The girls are
on the market. I'm out on a tractor truck. Tony
was bothering me yesterday. I had to stop the tractor.
Profit margins are then on the farm. I don't care
what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
The first question she had, yes.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
And that's why I said, those are a question.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Let's read it with this smaller countries. Uh, does it
give them pause of what we did?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Absolutely, it'll it's a. It's a They are now realizing
that we have put to Terrens chips back on the
table and that we will play a part and we
will act decisively. So with respect to that, they will
calculate their alignments. And remember what we're fighting against is
China is doing a Cold War type strategy the way
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we did it against the Soviets and defeated them. Remember
we didn't defeat the Soodivits by a battle. We defeated
them by a strategy under President Reagan. We crushed them
economically while parallel concurrent, we were using diplomatic, informational and military
power to position ourselves. But it was the economic power
that beat the Soviets. That's what the Chinese are trying
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to do to us. To come back to your question, yes, ma'am,
people are paying attention, they're making judgments. We need to
win the diplomatic, informational and that would be the soft
power aspect.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
All right, let's go to the phone lines. Five seventy one,
eight four eighty four is the phone number if you
have a question for Ed Kirk. You are on the
radio with us. Now your question.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Thank you for your service, captain. From the intelligence part
of it, and looking forward, how do we keep from
going into w W three?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Oh great question question. I'm afraid we're sleep walking into
it right now. And again you the taxpayer, And let
me add this those various degrees and such. I didn't,
Ed Goweran did not ask to go back to college.
You know you might remember famously Murray Racer undergrad masters
inag before I went off official candidate school when President
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Reagan was rebuilding our nation in the service. But if
you look at history, we're in the most volatile time
since pre World War Two. The contours an almost exactly overlay.
Remember pre World War Two, it was Nazi Germany, it
was Communist Soviet Union, it was the fascists in Italy,
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and it was the fanatics in Japan. All right, those
are the four Now look who are against the Chinese
nationalistic chi As he has declared he is going to
reunite China and read and take it back to what
two thousand years ago power, and they want Taiwan back,
will come back to that North Korea, and they have
declared Kim Jong Unn he's going to reunite the South
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the you know Korea in terms of the South Peninsula.
You got Russian Putin's declared he wants to rebuild the
Soviet Empire. And you have Iran that wants to dominate
the Mid East and also destroy the US in Italy.
So with those contours overlaid, we're facing the Four Horsemen apocalypse.
Hold that parallel and concurrent, there is a massive espionage
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campaign going on that we hear about daily. Remember the
FBI and other intelligence community leadership CIA and others has
testified unclassified in front of Congress about the massive espionage
i e. Spying and you know not just the balloon.
And oh, by the way, that balloon that overflew US
was not looking for Airbnb. It was a giant vacuum
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cleaner to vacuum up for future targeting and understanding both
kinetically and non kinetically. Think about it's soaking up all
the airwaves and other thing has got a huge, huge
solar power array on it. And it would be interesting
if the administration would release what was really found when
that balloon was recovered to inform the American public to
kind of threat we face. And that's just one element
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of their espionage. So there's a huge esmionage campaign exactly
like Nazi Germany did pre World War Two that we're fighting.
So to come full circle, if we don't put deterrence
back on the table, and remember deterrence is in the
eyes of the beholder, we've got to convince them we
will take We have the will and capability to take
the action. That's why the strikes in Iran were not
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only important at the at the tactical level to disrupt
their nuclear weapons program, but at the strategic level, at
a much wider level, that was where the impact was
more important.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
All right, let's keep the phone calls come in five, seven, one, eight,
four eighty four ask ed here in this segment, let's
go to Elmer. Elmer, you're on news radio eight forty whas.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Oh, yes, thank you, thanks for your serch this Scott Ryan.
I had a question what it is. I had looked
into this fourteenth state at this point have of laws
that our adversaries cannot buy property. Kentucky's not one of them.
And I talked to a friend of mine that's a
state represented that they tried it a few years ago
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and they rejected it. And I went forward again with
my representative, and do you have an opinion on that?
Or is that how do you feel about that? Or
or do you you know, want to express yourself?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I'll start with this. I can tell you that I
can tell you firsthand Chinese are not borrow buying farmland
and Kentucky to get rich. The profit margins are too thin, right,
We're struggling out the right right. So I say that
little bit tongue in cheek, but that's truthful. They're being
very back to esme knowedge, They're being very strategic. Look
at where they buy to include near Fort Campbell.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Wow, sir.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
To answer your question, it goes back to elections. You know,
who are we electing that understands that kind of threat
and what are we doing about As I understand, the
administration has taking that on and the Department of Agriculture
starting some efforts. It was just announce here recently. And
oh by the way, we hosted the new Secretary of
Agriculture out at Galerian Market just days after she was
an ounce back in February. We're glad to have her
at a family farm, appreciate her coming, and so I
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look forward to what they're going to do to help
us to protect that SOT. At a high level, we
we should have the checks and balances and in the
controls to understand who is buying this ground for what reason.
And although we want to have the freedoms here, it
is prudent to protect ourselves against our adversary.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I think I'm taking crazy pills to think that another
country can buy property in land in another country. They
wouldn't allow us to do that.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Well, they think about having open borders for four years,
and not only that, companies that are fronts for other companies,
and there's so many cutouts that folks that are actually
the company are unwitting.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
They don't even realize it. Not doing a deep dive
on the intelligence aspect. But things are not always what
they seem, and so don't And I know this is
going to pop y'all's bubble. You know, the media doesn't
always have the full story.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I will watched the news is twenty twenty because it's
it does me no good. But let me ask you,
after having open borders for four years, can it be corrected?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Well, that aspect would be the illegal immigrants. It's going
to take a herculean effort to do that, and it
would seem reasonable that if you're here, you're here legally.
You know, the laws are passed and you know they
can be debated, but they exist, so let's follow the law.
But back at a higher level, even before the open borders,
for over twenty years, China has been on this containment
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you know, the Belton Rolled Initiative. What they're doing, that's
their word for containment, what they're doing around the globe
and their espionage against US, you know, in terms of
full throttle Esmiena. Remember there's a number of Chinese that
were caught flying drones in the US and they're not
doing that to check out Airbnb. So they were caught.
Some of them have been tried, others convicted spying and otherwise.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
All right, I would love to ask you about the UK.
It just seems like we were partners and a lot
of stuff and now it just seems to be us
in the story. But let's go to a net and net.
You're on news radio eight forty whs. You have a
question for Ed go.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yes, I'm sort of a frustrated citizen who really doesn't
know what to do to We have no power to
influence these kinds of things. I see the foreign policy
flipping back and forth between Democrat and Republican, and that's
what seems to be working as in these bad directions
like the possibility of World War three, and it is
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so very frustrating when the policies just it's like a sailboat,
you know, tipping on a stormy sea, and there doesn't
seem to be anything for a normal everyday citizen to
do about it.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Okay, good question. What can we do. Thank you be
an informed, critical ing it.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I want to thank you for you. I want to
thank you for your your sentiment, young lady. I really
appreciate that. For those of its that served and were
the uniform, I will tell you that the secret weapon
in the United States of America, and this is not cheesy,
is not an Area fifty one, not Seal Team six.
It's an informed, critical thinking voter. Yes, ma'am. Talk to
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your friends, talk to your relatives, be informed, and so
with respect to that, you will have an impact. So
thank you for that question.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Any thoughts on the British what, what do they how
do they help us?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Well, of course some of that would a lot of
that would be classified, but they and Israel are our
two biggest partners, frankly, and they had been historically all
the way back to World War two. Uh So we
got to give them kudos for that.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
And the and the biggest difference between the Second World
War War now is that we've owned the skies for
a couple of decades. I mean we do, right, I
mean there is nobody that can compete with our air force,
UK's air Force or Israel's air force.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Well, if you were to categorize at all three at once.
We could probably it would depend and gain air supremacy.
But we need not overstate that China has massive combat power.
Quantity has a quality all its own, and when you
look at the numbers and what they've done, they could
isolate and gain comparative combat power over US. Saying an
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area like Taiwan.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
This question comes to us from social media. Keith asked
how long would take to rebuild a nuclear program for
I Ran?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Great, great question. Uh, that'll have to be determined by
intelligence folks, and you can rest assured that Israel's working
hard on getting the exact details what's going on. As
an aside somewhat related to that, you can anticipate there's
going to be, for lack of a better term, a purge.
There's going to be a lot of suspicion within Iran
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about who might be an agent or who might have
you know, for lack of better term, compromised, you know,
some of their programs and so forth and so on.
So they're going to turn on themselves in some ways,
and then there's some disinformation operations that may occur to
you know, feed that. But to come back to the
actual the timeline. I wouldn't have that information, couldn't divulge
it if I did. But here's what you can take
to the bank. They will attempt to rebuild it full stop.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
The people over there just I just don't know. There's
difference between the government and people. We all know that, right,
And a lot of times we see, you know, because
back in the eighties and the seventies and eighties where
the sixties were doing the Cold War, and it was
the Russian government versus the Russian people, and we saw
how terrible they lived, and they wanted to get out
of that as soon as possible. They couldn't wait to
take that wall down and go capitalists. But one of
(35:22):
the people, it's just it seems, it seems what is
your opinion of the general public of the Iranians the
iraqis you know, that's been a mess for the longest time.
The normal person that lives there just wants the same
things we do, right, raise a family in a safe neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I don't know if I can say it for all,
but let's go back to a Soviet Union, Russia. But
look what happened. Putin works himself back to power, and
look at where they are now. So for all the
hope that we had when the wall fell, and I
was wearing a uniform for you at that juncture as
a professional military officer, look at where we are now.
He's back in power. He wants to be the next czar.
(36:02):
Now remember back to the full horsemen of the apocalypse.
Every one of them have a calendar. They know how
long they're going to be on this earth. Every one
of them have declared in value to vowed to do something,
you know, in terms of their legacy. I would be
paying attention to what they said, and we touched on
that earlier, all right, But to come back to what's
going on in Iran, I would call it there is
an opportunity here because, as the facts bear out, they
(36:26):
are a minority led country by that cleric as opposed
to what is you would consider a democracy where you
have elected leadership. And again it gets confusing because they
do have an elected president and right now they have
an acting president. They got to go to an election
again because the other one died in a helicopter crash. Interestingly,
one of three helicopters crashed. It had all the markings
(36:49):
of our good frenzy Israelis. But I have no first
hand knowledge that.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I'm gonna let you wrap up with this because you
got about sixty seconds here you talk about a colonel
for Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Let me go back to the threat of Iran. Since
they overthrew the Shaw in nineteen seventy nine, there is
an American from Bowl County, went to Southern High School
and went to the university level, Lieutenant Colonel Higgins Marine.
He was serving active duty as a UN observer in
Lebanon in the late eighties. He was captured by Iranian
back terrorists, tortured, executed. I set alert to rescue him
(37:28):
as a young Navy seal officer with my team. We
never got the actionable intelligence. So the threat of Iran
comes all the way here to central Kentucky and rest
assured after those fought was they have a whole asymmetric
warfare arm. Remember they attempted to kill an assassinate folks
right here in the US. They're operating. Back to the
point about sleeper sales, they're not sleeping at all. They're
(37:50):
out there picking out you know, when the getting a
better understanding of their targets and where their freedom of
action is to take advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Well, I apologize for making you sit in the air
conditioned studio today rather on a tractor ninety degree whether
I'm sure you're gonna lose.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
That one other thing nicely and called me mister Gallerin.
You gotta call me Ed. Mister Gallerin's uncle Bill ninety
four and a half. It works every day. Don't get
between uncle Bill and work. It'd be the wrong place.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
To get one more thing though, Ed, how do people
find the farm? Because you've got me interested in them?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Jurin Farms just just there in Shelby County. You can
get off an extra thirty two or eighty thirty five.
Look up galerind Farms. Can't miss it. We're only about
ten or fifteen minutes past the Altan mall. Everybody knows
that lambar. Come on out and see us. Bring the kids,
pet and zus O.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
And after you get your vegetables from the farm, make
sure you go and you get the grill of your dreams.
I love grill masters supply. I love cooking on my
pits and spits. As a matter of fact, I love
it so much I got a second one. You're gonna
love the selection to Grill Masters Supply. If you don't
know what you're doing. They have beginning sets, they have grills,
they have smokers. They even have the pit Boss Navigator.
(38:54):
It's the only place you can get it is at
grill Master's Supplies where I get all my woods, all
my rubsleather, be lines. You're gonna love Grill Master Supply
ten four oh eight.
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They'll take care of you with your eye and your vision.
All the glasses I own are from Vision First. My
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