8.27: Minimum wage is the maximum tax, Leland displays his musical prowess once again

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Don't hint Twitter off today. I am Leland Conways sitting
in for them. Oh my goodness, eight forty whas So
WDRB had to report about this or they there's a
movement in Kentucky to raise the minimum wage. So in Kentucky,
the minimum wage is the federal minimum wages is seven

(00:22):
twenty five bucks an hour, seven dollars twenty five cents
an hour, which you look, you can't Let's be honest,
you can't live on that. There's no way you can
live on that, right, So they did this report. The
Kentucky Center for Economic Policy said that the seven dollars
twenty five cent minimum wage is solo. Employers don't even
really hire at that wage anymore.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Okay, So where's the problem. Where's the problem? You already
solved your problem.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
There's no reason to raise the minimum wage because employers
are already paying above that.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
So I don't know what your deal is.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Right, According to the Center of the state's wage earnings
fall below the poverty line, with purchasing power at a
seventy five year low. It's obviously something that we're concerned
about because there's really no wage floor anymore for Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Workers.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
That's why Senator State Senator Reggie Thomas is renewing his
call for a minimum wage for Kentuckians. He says, I
want to move out of out of poverty. I want
to see Kentuckians go to work. I'm going to continue
to be a voice for that, and I'm going to
push for that, and I'm sure members of my party
are going to push for that. But this should be

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a bipartisan effort. Twenty two states have not raised their
minimum wage above the federal rate, including Kentucky and Indiana.
Washington State has the highest minimum wage at sixteen sixty
six an hour. So let me let let's let's dive
into this for a second. First of all, we have
to remind everybody what minimum wage is about. It's basically
to stop child labor violations. That's what it's for. You're

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not supposed to make minimum wage for your entire career.
Of course, you can't live on seven twenty five an hour.
You're not supposed to minimum wage. Jobs pay minimum wage
because it's minimum skill and there's a basic recognition that
will pay you something at least this much, so that
you're not taking a kid at fourteen years old and

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making them work for two dollars an hour or whatever.
That's really what minimum wage is for. It's a career starter,
not a career itself. It's designed to teach people how
to work in the workplace. It's designed to give people
a sense of responsibility getting up. It's not designed Look, honestly,
if you're like forty five and you're working for minimum

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wage and that's it, you've made some decisions in your life.
I don't mean to be rude. I'm not trying to
be rude. I'm just saying you've made some decisions in
your life that are probably not in your best interest,
and we need to have a conversation about that, not
about arbitrarily coming into businesses and telling them how to
run things. Now, I am I consider myself a missionary
to the West Coast because I have a regular show

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on iheartstation COGO in San Diego, and I can talk
about this from the standpoint of seeing what the disaster
looks like after you implement the disaster, and if Kentucky
goes down this route, it will be it will be
in a disaster.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
What this state senator doesn't understand and what the Kentucky
Center for Economic Policy clearly doesn't understand is that the
disaster will not be for them, It will be for
the people they claim to try to help. And let
me give you an example. So in California, the minimum
wage is that is right around that same amount that
they have in Washington State, but for a fast food worker,

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it's actually twenty dollars an hour.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
And what they're trying to do right now in Los
Angeles and San.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Diego is raise that wage to twenty five dollars an hour,
not just for fast food workers, but for all what
they call hospitality workers.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
So the person who.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Is putting pillowcases on the pillows at the hotels is
going to make twenty five bucks an hour. That is,
flipping burgers is gonna make twenty five bucks an hour.
And obviously the results of that down the line for
you and me the consumer, is that a burrito in
San Diego costs like eighteen fifty. Do you want to

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pay eighteen fifty for a burrito? Because that's what it's
gonna cost when the wages go to that level.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
And I was in a I think it was this.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I think it was a I think it was a
Chick fil A the other day in San Diego and
there was a robot that was going around and delivering
the food to everyone. And I was like, there you go,
that's what's happening. And they actually and I think it's
I think it's in San Francisco. They just opened a
new restaurant that literally has no employees. It is an

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entirely automated restaurant. You go in, you sit down, you order,
you eat, it gets served to you, You eat, you.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Pay, you leave.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
You never see a human being that works for that restaurant.
It's a concept, but it's gonna work.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
How do they do that?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
So they have like somewhere down the line, there's human beings, right,
but they have like a I don't want to I'm
gonna call it like a pre cook kitchen and stuff
is delivered in. But then there's literally it's kind of
like it's it's kind of robotic, right, Like they can
move stuff off out of a refrigerator into a heater
and then it can heat up the food and then
they can put it on a plate and then it

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comes to you on one of those little robots brings
it out. I mean, it's it's literally, there's no human
beings in there. There might be like one manager of
the store, but there's no human beings. They're not You
think about when you go gus to the to McDonald's
or whatever, and you see like that whole operation there.
You got the fry guy, you got the burger flipper guy,
you got the bun toaster guy, you got the lady

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doing the soft serve ice cream, you got the drive
through person, you got the used to have the person
at the counter. But now now when we were we
were kids, Gus McDonald's had like fifteen cash registers. You
remember that, you go in and one of the cash ers,
But now it's like there's one cash register. There's usually
nobody at it, and there's a kiosk over here, and
you go and you push the buttons. But you see

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the whole operation at like a fast food restaurant. In
this case, there's nobody back there. It's just doing its
thing robotically. And it's entirely possible. I mean, we have
the technology for that. We can flip burgers without a person.
Now you can fly. To be honest with you, the
quality control is probably better, right, So I am I'm
gonna tell you right now.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I'm just warning you.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
After they implemented the twenty dollars minimum wage for fast
food restaurants in California, they lost fourteen thousand jobs within
a year and there are a number hundreds of franchise
locations that closed because they couldn't afford it. There is
a there is a place in San Diego called Rubio's
Coastal Grill and they make it's kind of cool. They

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it was a local place that started making taco. So
if you go down to Tijuana and down on the
coast in Baja, you know, California and Mexico, they've got
a certain sort of coastal Mexico style for tacos, and
they're really good.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
It's different.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
And this guy named Rubio just he went down there
and saw the operation of the guys doing it the
traditional way, and he said, I think I can do
this in the United States, and I can, you know,
just in true American fashion, I can supersize.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
It, right.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
So he started this taco restaurant called Rubio's Coastal Grill,
and it's amazing. I don't really like fish tacos, but
dag arm these things are delicious.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
And at one time. He's expanded to other states throughout
the West.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
But at one time I think he had like eighty
seven restaurants in California alone. Last year he shut down
all but twenty four of them. Now they're still doing
business in Arizona and Utah and Nevada and other states where,
guess what, the business atmosphere is much friendlier. But they
can't afford to do business in their home state. I mean,

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those types of tacos like that. The culture in San
Diego mixes with that Tijuana culture. So that's a local thing, right.
It's like having a hot brown, right, I mean Kentucky
is like you have hot brown or you know, a
mint julip. It's local to us in Louisville, right, Like
it's our thing. You come to Kentucky, you gotta get
a hot brown. That's kind of what that is. And
they can't even they can't even really operate at a

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full level in the in their home area because it's
two damned expensive. You can't afford to pay people twenty
now twenty now they're calling for twenty five bucks an hour.
And here's the weird thing about this, Gus. This is
the thing that blew my mind about it. It's only
fast food worker. So the sixteen sixty five minimum wage
that they have is for everybody else. But if you

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work at fast food, it's it's twenty dollars an hour.
But if it has to have more than I think
I can't remember the total, but nationwide has to have
more than like X number of locations, so it has
to be a chain. So imagine being a mom and pop.
You got Bob's Burgers, and maybe you've been around forever
and you're making these special burgers that everybody loves. Right,

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But the problem is the Windy's right next to you
has to pay their employees twenty bucks an hour. Now
you're a mom and pop and you can pay sixteen
sixty five because you don't have twenty some odd locations.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
But here's the problem. You can't find good workers.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Because why would I work for you for sixteen sixty
five when I go over here to want Wendy's and
I can work for six for twenty bucks?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Right, that's right?

Speaker 1 (09:18):
So then your quality goes down as the mom and pop,
and the mom and pop folds so they cause they
can't compete because it's not real market. Factors that are
driving those prices. It's government intervention that's driving the prices,
and mom and pop can't keep up with government, so
we lose those mom and pop restaurants.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
And that's what's happening in California. They're closing like crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Because they can't keep up because they can't pay twenty
bucks an hour.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
So you lose that local flavor.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Man, you lose that thing that makes it special. And
that is what is coming. If Kentucky does this, it
is coming, I'm telling you. And what happens is fourteen
thousand people lost their jobs.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Here's what happens.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
When you have a minimum wage that that's high like that,
the businesses have to find a way. They either they
only have two choices. We either cut costs or we
raise prices. Right, those are only two choices, because you're
the government is coming in and telling them you have
to charge this for this, and they're like, well, the
market bears seven to twenty five an hour for this
labor because it doesn't you know, it's it's easy. Anybody

(10:15):
could do it, so it doesn't it doesn't command a
premium like being a rocket scientist. So the market only
bears this one. We're like, well, it doesn't matter what
the market bears. This is what we're telling you have
to do. So now you've got built in costs for
low skilled people, and now that cost goes up.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
So what are you gonna do. You're gonna either one.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
You're gonna raise prices, and they usually what happens is
usually you do both. They raise prices to pass some
of that off, and then you start to restrict hours.
You start to move the people that maybe don't perform
as well out and so they lose their job, and
the ones that do get shouldered with more burden, right,
and you have fewer of them, and so they have

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fewer people covering shifts. And then what happens you go
into like a Chick fil Ay or whatever. I'm sure
we've all seen this. You see special needs people in there, right,
they're kind of cleaning the tables and doing the thing.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
I love that it gives them something to do because
the purpose or you see elderly people. Elderly people have
a little job. You know, they got their social Security
and they've got a little retirement, but they want to
go do.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Something great, give them purpose.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
They go out. Those people are the first to go.
The Walmart greeters, those are the first to go. We
can't afford them because they're not really doing anything that's
driving business per se. They're just kind of like overall
creating the feel. But honestly, if we got to choose
between serving the chicken and having somebody here just wiping
tables down, we can get a robot to do that, right,
That's what ends up happening. Gus, you were gonna you

(11:35):
just went out to Seattle not too long ago and
you saw this in action, right, because that place is
falling apart.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Well, I was gonna say that I was out there
for what was it, Oh, it was the It's been
twelve years ago, my gosh u of L when I
was doing engineering for the radio network. They were out
there in the first round of the NCAA tournament. So
we went out and one night everybody else had already gone.
I had to stay back and do something. So I
go out and go. I'm gonna find me somewhere to eat.

(11:59):
And I went to a pizza place, nice place, and
number one, they had a table that's got eight people
on each side of it. Okay, you set across somebody
and you're all at one table. That's what I sat
with four girls in college. There were two on one side,
one next to me. So I'm like the odd man
out in this foursome here, and like I've got nothing

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in common with them. All I get is just like
a wood fired pizza and a root beer.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Okay, And I'm like, eighty seven dollars.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
It was twenty eight dollars thirty and I'm like, and look,
this is twenty thirteen. And I'm going, hey, or no, no,
it's twenty fourteen, fifteen something like that. Yeah, And I'm
why is this so expensive? We're just talking pizza here.
And then I'm like, oh, wait a minute. You enacted.
They were one of the first cities, I think, to
enact the fifteen dollars an hour minimum wage, and everything

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was super expensive, and I was like, we couldn't figure
it out for a couple of days. I know, it's
the West Coast. Things are a little bit more out.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
There, sure to tourist destination.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Just trying to eat a pizza and a root beer.
I didn't get any drinks. I got nothing else, And
I'm thinking, man, this is outrageous. Yeah, I know, it's
only gotten worse.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
It is, it is, it's horrible, and you know that
trickles down to the common man, right, because what ends
up happening is the person who works at the Windy's
is priced out of even getting a burger, right, I
mean again, who wants to pay eighteen bucks for a burrito.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
The other thing they did in Seattle, which.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Is terrifying and it ruined everything immediately, is they tried
to institute a minimum a minimum wage slash delivery fee
for food delivery drivers. And so the first thing that
happened within a couple of months is nobody tipped, so
they lost that money. So they ended up losing money
on the deal. And after that, people just started stopping

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ordering because they kept raising it because they were like, well,
we're not getting enough money and tips, so we're going
to raise it. So they kept forcing people to pay
more for delivery food and they were like, screw it,
I I will not do uber eats. I will just
go down to the restaurant and pick it up. And
a lot of delivery drivers lost their jobs because of
this government intervention in people's you.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Know, business. And that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
And while you're here in Kentucky, more likely they'd be like, well,
we're not gonna go all the way to fifteen an hour.
We're just gonna do like two dollars. We'll do nine
twenty five, doesn't matter. Think about Think about like a
convenience store owner scraping together or living down in Pike County, Okay,
and all of a sudden they got to pay the
seventeen year old cashier, you know, two dollars more an hour.

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And you run the number of labor hours across the board,
and you look at how much that's going to eat
into their overall And these these types of businesses, these
small business they run on like a two percent profit margin,
if that right. I got a friend that owns a
bunch of fast food restaurants here in Kentucky, and when
she started up, she was talking to me about their
profit margin, right, And initially I think it took her

(14:59):
about three or four years to even turn a profit,
to get everything up, because she was investing in the business.
And you know, the profit margin that she's operating on
is about two maybe three percent. So when the government
comes in and raises your wages by twenty percent, what
does that do to your profit margin?

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Right?

Speaker 1 (15:17):
And the thing is, and I know there's lefties out
there listening right now, and they're like, well, profit margin,
he's been with greedy business owners. No, she ran that
business working eighty to one hundred hours a week with
zero salary and her home leveraged for three years before
she ever got a check. Does what does she deserve
as an owner of the business? What does she deserve

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as turn in terms of return on investment? Because those
employees that rarely showed up on time for work didn't
care about the customers in the front, said rude things,
did rude things, fault with each other, all the problems
you have with employees. They didn't take any risks. They
just saw it as oh, going on the store, do whatever,
like whatever. They didn't take any risks. There was nothing
on their backs. They lose that job, they just go

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to the pizza hut. No problem, no harm, no foul.
So what what do they get? What is the what
is the person who owns the business get? The government
comes in and says we're gonna take all your profit
and we're gonna give it to these people who are
not doing nothing, that complaining all the time, doing low
skill work.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
It doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
I'm telling you right now, if Kentucky does this, it's
gonna be a disaster, and it's gonna be a disaster
for the people they think it will help.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
It will be a disaster for the workers.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Use minimum wage as a stepping stone to get some
skills and then get a better wage. I'm just telling you,
don't do it coming up at the bottom of the hour, Gus,
He's gonna put me through the ringer, reeling in the
years again.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I don't do I get paid for this humiliation or anything.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Oh take money out of your check every time you
get it wrong. You've hit it two days in a row, maybe.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
But the first day doesn't really count. Yesterday was my generation.
I have a feeling you're gonna you're you're gonna do
something to screw me over today.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I know it's gonna happen. I swear it's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Lovable me.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I'll never do anything.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Leland Conway and for Tony and Dwight News Radio eight
forty whas all right? Coming up reeling in the years
a game I am spectacularly terrible at and Gus is
gonna make it even harder on me today.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
So I am preparing for my humiliation.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
We are keeping an eye on a breaking story, guys,
that is not good.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
In Minneapolis.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Police are responding to what appears to be a mass
shooting at a Catholic school up there. We don't have
a lot of details on it, but as those details unfold,
I'm hearing potentially three dead.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
As those details unfold, we will have them for you. Also.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Congressman Massey joins this top of next Hour. Leland Conway
in for Tony and Dwight News Radio eight forty whas
Leland Conway in for Tony and Dwight got to get
my butt kicked in this game again, reeling in the years,
Oh my god. Before we get to that, though, just
a real quick serious note, John, You've been covering this
breaking story out of Minneapolis. What is the latest we

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have on this potential Catholic school shooting up there?

Speaker 2 (18:03):
What's going on with Leland.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
What we've got is reports of as many as twenty
people may have been shot at this Catholic church and
school in Minneapolis, and it was just as students were
arriving for school. Police responded eight thirty Central time this morning,
so about an hour ago our time to reports of
a man with a rifle at the church and the school.
When they arrive, they already found casualties. Just in the

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last couple of minutes during the commercial break, they've updated
that the shooter is dead and the FBI is en
route to the shooting to assist in the investigation. Eyewitnesses
have described the amount of fire as tremendous. The volume
of fire is tremendous. Minnesota State Police are there, Hennepin
County EMS is on scene, as well as fire trucks.

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Unconfirmed reports of how many casualties so far, but we
do not. At least twenty people have been injured and
the shooter is dead.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Wow, And if I could just I gotta say that
real quick. I'm telling you right now people, if you
have a church or any type of real and we
don't I'm not trying to get into the motives on this.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
We don't know. But obviously it's a Catholic school.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
If you have a church, a synagogue, if you have
a private school that is religious affiliated in any way,
you've got to have a security plan.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
You have to.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
I work with an organization full disclosure that we provide
those kinds of trainings for people. I was up in
Montana just a couple of weeks ago, and we had
a course that we put on for church security. We
had eighty church security folks show up in Billings, Montana.
And it was just that week. Prior to that event,
there had been a sixteen year old who was arrested

(19:43):
on his way to shoot up a church. Guys did
the where I live in Colorado, synagogues, Jewish protesters firebomb.
If you have a religious affiliate organization, you have got
to have a plan to keep those people safe. If
you're not, you're you're you're really you know, missing the
boat on this because it's we live in a crazy

(20:05):
divided world right now and that kind of stuff has
a target on its back big time.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
And we'll have more details as this unfold.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
I know, John, you're covering it and we'll keep in
touch with you, and we don't want to say too
much before we have those details.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
But man, it just it breaks my heart.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
And and maybe they did have a security plan, but
I mean, you've got to have somebody and just you got.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
You might remember up in Michigan just just four or.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Five weeks ago, Uh, there was a guy that tried
to come in and shoot up while they were doing
a kid's play, right, and there were three people that
had ironically just taken that course I was telling you
about that. We're able to stop that individual. Well one
of them got shot, but nobody died in that case
because they had a plan. It just it breaks my heart, man.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
And it's and it happened at a very chaotic time
of day. You got everybody arriving for school, so there's
cars trying to crowd in and find a parking spot,
kids running around.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
Really easy not to catch catch something that that.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
My best friend out in Texas is member of his
church's security team. Yeah, you retired Navy sailor and he
is part of their security team.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
It's happening.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
I mean, it's evil, and evil is visiting us right
now and we have to be prepared for it. So
we'll get more details. Thank you for covering on that.
But yeah, I just I had to get that off
my heart because it's like you hear these stories and
it it it rattles us because these are kids and
these are families and you know, but we don't have
any other details, so we will we'll keep it focused.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
Joe Lincoln will have them at the top of the hour.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Perfect. Perfect, Yeah, we'll keep people tuned in.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Okay, you guys are free to kick my ass now, Okay,
I'm helping you.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Actually, John, you're helping you. So okay. So you're trying
to steal for my win yesterday.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
None. I have taken no credit. Gus can tell you.
I took no credit for the win yesterday.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Not everybody gets a trophy in this situation.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
You win or you lose. You go yeah, oh god,
this is like the worst sport for me.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
I mean okay, by the way, I don't know if
you guys saw this, but my new favorite sport they is.
It's a real thing in Germany. It's the shopping cart
return Championships.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
Have you guys I've seen that.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
No, like in the It's a televised sport, the shopping
cart return Championship.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Okay, I'm curious. How does this work? Okay, So I
could be in on this. I could go for this maybe.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
But you have a shopping rack on the other side
of the stage, and then you have people that have
to push roll it like let it go and try
to get it into the shopping cart rack on the
other side.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Of the stage.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
Oh, I so win that.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Like, what's the Olympics curling? Curling?

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yes, very much like.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
Curve except with shopping carts.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, are you out there in the aisle with the
brooms trying to get all the cigarette butts and everything
out of the way.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Now, what I want to know is is after you
get it successfully back into the little cart stable thing,
do you get your euro coin.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
Back that you have to put into those baskets to
get them out?

Speaker 1 (22:50):
You do well because they're smart enough not to let
the homeless steal their carts over right.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, they all latch together and you have to put
a coin in there to get it loose, and you
get back when you latch it back in, just like
all these.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah, it's not a speed thing, it's an accuracy thing.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, it's well, it's both how fast inaccurate can you be?

Speaker 1 (23:09):
And every single one of the competitors is like a Karen,
like with the Karen real estate agent hairdo you know
what I'm talking about?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
I want to see the manager, right.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
I actually was at the grocery store the other day,
not to chase a rabbit trail, but there was I
swear to god, she was probably in her sixties. Old lady,
sixty year old lady. I'm not saying old lady. She
wasn't old old, but she was elderly somewhat late sixties.
And she was riding the cart like she you know
what we did when kids. Yeah, she was she like
runs and does it with one leg and then jumps
up on it. And I was like, I want to

(23:41):
be that lady when I'm sixty eight too. I want
to be that lady. She was having a blast.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I loved it. Okay.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Oh, by the way, shout out to Courtney donahoe. She
is listening to this, So no pressure on you because she.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Started really and started this, Yes didn't she? Yes, she's
to have a problem with Courtney. Courtney, I'm texting you
after the show. We're gonna that We're gonna throw down.
This is this is not fun.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
To be fun to watch.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Let me get some popcorn because I saw this playing
out on Facebook last night.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Now I love Courtney. All right, here we go, Okay,
started or whatever the hell you do.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
It would be nineteen something, really darn all right? First
song give you six here. I think you'll get this
based on a song that's in it because it's related
to something else.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
This is from Days of Our Lives, is it? Yes,
it was on there, Gloria.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Law Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. You
watched soap operas when I.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Was in high school?

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yes, in high school spring break. Yeah, I followed Bowen,
Hope and Doug and Julie all over the place. This
is Gloria Loring and Peebo Bryson.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Johnson, Carl and you.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Right to say it if Leland wasn't. You just revoked
all kinds of man lists right there.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Hey, John, after the show, do you want to go
grab some tofu and kuen?

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Wah?

Speaker 5 (24:52):
God, No, it's got some faux I want.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
To have an all right, So John got this. That's
very good.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
It's it's actually what did he say?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I'm still trying to figure out what the ship, what
the song is.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
We're not surprised by that, But.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
What is it? John?

Speaker 4 (25:10):
It's Gloria Loring and Carl Anderson Friends and Lovers.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah. I know those guys. I got them on my
iTunes list.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Because Gloria Loring was also one of the main characters
on Days of Our Lives at that time.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Do you understand that this type of song is like
sitting in a classroom with somebody scratching a chalkboard.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yes to me.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
It got so overplayed.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
It was a hit on radio, and then every time
there was some scene with the girl with Gloria Loring,
it was always playing in the background.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
I'm a little disturbed, you know, exactly all the people
on days of our lives. That's that's you know. I
don't admit that out anymore.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
I'm just I'm hurt.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Okay, let me think I'm gonna say eighty six.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
This feels like the No I don't, oh, I do.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
This feels like something that This isn't made in the
middle of Ferris Bueller's day off.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
This is in my wheelhouse.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
I graduated high school in eighty seven, so I might
actually be used.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
John, don't tell him who this is. We're gonna make you.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Come on, let me go.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
This was a part of This is a video like
a Pepsi commercial, I think, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Well, listen to it? There you go?

Speaker 5 (26:15):
What a feeling.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Is the song called Oh What a Feeling?

Speaker 3 (26:20):
No, you'd be in where's the buzzer?

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Here we go?

Speaker 2 (26:26):
All right, John, he's over here, like let me add it?

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Dancing on the ceiling Lionel Richie.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
Oh my, so this pushes it back.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
This is like more like my sophomore year, maybe eighty
four eighty five time frame.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Oh my word, I'm terrible at this sport. Can I
just go do the chopping? Car?

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Getting better from this point on? All right, that's aid.
John was right, Lionel Richie dancing on the ceiling. That
was a very popular song. So okay, this is oh oh,
I know this song.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Crap and it sounds really good live. I've seen him
on the eighties cruise a couple of times.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Take my breath away.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yes, I have a confession.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
It's from a city.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
It's it's, it's It was in a film.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Aim.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
This song actually broke the band up.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
No, this is from a famous film.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Yes, they just made a sequel to it that made
more money than the original.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Can you get that? Can you get the film?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Leland?

Speaker 3 (27:28):
I don't expect the song. I've given up that.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Hope Berlin, Yes, yes, yeah, but it was.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
This song actually broke them up because Terry was part
of it was part of Top gun sound. Yes, the
love theme from Top gun Y. But Terry Nunn wanted
to go more in this kind of direction. The band
had always been kind of a punk pop kind of thing.
The rest of the original the rest of the original
members didn't want to go that direction, and they split ways.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
My wife is listening. She's gonna want to watch Top
Gun again now, which is fine with me. It's like,
that's not a hard thing to watch, so but she
loves that. She loves that movie.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
I'm gonna say, okay, I'm narrowing this down by that movie.
I'm gonna say eighty five.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna suggest we
go eighty six.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Joe, okay, Oh, this was a controversial song.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Third third top or the number three song this year
or this week this year.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
No idea, you know what I love though, it's like
the ross from Friends the keyboard that he used to play.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
Yes, it's.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Artists here and see if you can tell us. Don't
give you many hits.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
John Okay, Okay, I'm dancing in the studio right now.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
We don't need to see that. John.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
No, Yes, there's no cameras in here.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
We're good. I have no idea. I told you I'm
terrible at this sport. I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Uh gus is like for the love of Godly, he's
face the words I wanted to use.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
Yes, he's face palming in there right now.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Very popular artists in the eighties set trends. Uh vogue.
I'm like doing the twenty thousand dollars pyramid thing, trying
to see if I can help you out here. Name
starts with an M, has no last name.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
Uh me maybe title coming up right now?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Oh, Madonna's I Don't Preach, Yes, nineteen eighty six, it
has to be nineteen eighty six.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
I'm saying eighty five.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
I'm just I'm just overjoyed that you figured out it
was Madonna?

Speaker 2 (29:45):
All right, Okay, next my keyboard.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
In the eighties, man ever number two? Oh yes, do
do Dude, Do Do Do Do? Do Do do?

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Would this have been the number two songs?

Speaker 3 (30:00):
This would be the number two songs.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
And it's a remake if I remember right, it is.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
A remake from an early seven nineteen seventies song.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yes, is this Patty LaBelle.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
No, no, no, no, that's decent. I'll give you that.
That's in that range right when Patty was popular.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Very popular?

Speaker 5 (30:18):
You got it?

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Is that the title je It's venus Oh, originally released
in nineteen sixty nine.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, I'm your veen. Okay.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
So when was that Redone in like the nineties. Wasn't
it Redone in the nineties too?

Speaker 3 (30:36):
No, it was I'm not familiar with that one. This
group's named after a fruit if that?

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Hell?

Speaker 3 (30:42):
That not that that matters. You got the song the
Purple Bananas, Well, you got part right. It's banana rabbits
take the purple off? All right, vital song here? This
is number one?

Speaker 5 (30:53):
Okay. Now, now I might be with you, Leland, I
might be leaning towards eighty six on this.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
Oh, great song, and it stayed at number one forever.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I just hear guys banging on trash cans.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
Oh, you'll recognize the voice when you kick in, okay.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Former keyboardist for miss Writer The Detroit Wheels. Yes, the
number one song.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Oh higher, Yes, Like the title of the song is higher.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Who's saying this?

Speaker 1 (31:26):
My wife's gonna be like texting me in a minute, going,
you are an idiot?

Speaker 5 (31:31):
Courtney Donaho is texting you as we speak. Uh, well, no,
she's still singing the last song never mind.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Steve Winwood, Yes, Higher, love. Yes, Yes, nineteen eighty six.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
It's gotta be. It's gotta be eighty six, John, Okay, I'm.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Gonna I'm gonna trust your judgment on this and I'm
gonna go with it. Okay, finally, maybe try to get
my man card back here.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Wait wait, wait, wait wait, I don't think you should
just I don't think you should just trust me, John, I.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Know I'm going to you're you're two and oh you got.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
The marble all the Marblesky, I.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
Don't have time right now and I can't watch him.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Final answer eighty six.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Steve Winwood's Higher Love was number one on this week
in nineteen eighty six. Yes, Johnny, we try swept it.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
Yes, we did get out the brooms.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
It's a sweet what's funny if he knew every single song?
And I'm sitting here going how can I google silently.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
When you didn't know Lionel, Ritchie and Madonna? I'm like, hell,
oh my, We've hit an epic landmark.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Thank you, John. I appreciate it. Man, you saved my
butt twice in a row. I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
Pleasures all mine.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
All right, we'll have some updates on that story at
the about the shooting at the bottom of the hour
or the top of the hour. Also coming up at
the top of the hour, Congressman Thomas Massey joins us
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