May 1, 2025 • 9 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live across the world. Right now. This is the
John Jay and Rich radio program like.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
This afterwards podcast, And I wanted to talk about you
season five because it came out last week and all
three of you, Peyton, Rich and Kyle you're done. You've
watched it all?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Right, Yeah, binged it.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm halfway through now. I will say that it's it's interesting.
I like it, but at the same time, there's things
that really bother me about it that I just let go,
and sometimes I can't let it go. So it's making
me not rush through it like some shows I rush
through it.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Right, We're also not rushing through because you already know
the ending because you watched the last episode, right.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I watched the last episode like four time to speed,
just to get it up when it first came out,
because I wanted to, because I felt so burned by
season four that I didn't want to commit to season five.
So I'm taking my time on season five. And I
don't know. There might be spoiler alerts in this in
this afterwards podcast or might not. I don't know, but
I will say this though, this is kind of because
(01:00):
I sit in the sauna every day for twenty minutes
and every day of twenty minutes. When I do sit
in the sauna, I watch a show, and I can
tell when a show is really good and gets me
when the twenty minutes goes by real fast and season five,
that twenty minutes goes by fast.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Okay, that's good, that's a good show, right.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
But I get irritated. For example, the Maddie Reagan's sister
Reagan's sisters, Like, I just don't believe that they would
hate each other. I know, I know twins. I know
a lot of twins. I know a couple twins that
don't get along. But I just can't believe that part
in there, especially when they when they first realize that
(01:36):
they're captured and then it's like, why don't we work
together to get out of here? Like, I just don't believe.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, because Reagan basically like bullied Matten her entire life.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So I just don't believe that.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I just don't believe the twins have a bond that
are just so. That's a small problem I had. Small, Okay.
The other problem I just have is they live like
they say the Reagan character is a gazillionaire. It lives
in this crazy mansion. Right, you saw them a bowling
alley in the mansion. Gorgeous. Joe breaks into the mansion, right,
And first of all, there's nobody there. I have a
(02:09):
small house compared to them, and there's people in my
house twenty four to seven, no security, nobody working on
the yard, nobody doing it. And not only that, but
when she's doing like a robics class or she's doing
yoga by herself, I would think she'd have a yoga teacher,
probably the most famous yoga teacher in the world, tells
her out of yoga. So that's another small problem I have.
(02:29):
Then he chases her out in the field in the
backyard and wax her with a bullying hit with a
bowling pin right, knocks her out. Okay, believable. Tell me,
Joe how you got her from the back of that
yard to the car to the cage in New York
City without anybody seeing it. That is such a problem.
And the thing about season one that was so great
is you saw him dispose of the bodies, right, So
(02:53):
there's a murder committed. And then in one sentence he goes, well,
I helped Maddy get rid of the evidence, like show
show me how you did that because.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
The season one feel like it's season five. We don't
need to show you that Joe knows how to get
rid of bodies.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Now you do, because I don't think you can get
rid of buy the same way or everybody be doing it.
Like That's the part that's so intriguing is how he
chopped up the bodies in the first place. He threw
some of them it incinerator, like when Dexter does it
nine season of Dexter. You still see him chop them
up and throw them in the ocean. You still him
do whatever. It's like, Joe, it's just a passover. Hey,
so I got rid of the body, bro, how well
(03:28):
you're now famous. People now recognize you because you're married
to this verybody.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
That's the problem. I had the thing where like, okay,
so just put us on a baseball hat and nobody
sees Joe, but he's so recognizable as the husband, like
he's an IT couple. You know. They're like, uh, they're
they're they're like Benny Blanco.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Well, he does mention that at one point that he's
like now the most visible person. Like I feel like
they kind of address that right because.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
He gets recognized by the guy. But so it's kind
of like now I've heard people say, like, I word,
did I see as there was a poster or so
there where someone was like, you know, Joe, you're looking
for someone to love you, but you always had that,
You had that with love. You can't get like he's
he's a mental he's mental, Like he's got a problems.
So you gotta let this. I can't argue with any
of his the stuff that he's saying, you know what
(04:15):
I mean, because like, you're crazy, dude, You're crazy. But
when it comes to the people putting together the show
the way, they just gloss over stuff that bothers the
hell out of me. And that's but I'm still watching it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
But you know what I mean, And I think some
of your concerns I think they address right towards the
end in the plot. Like with the sisters, they get
into that a little bit, right.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No matter how much the sisters hate each other, well
hate each other, I can imagine.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
That Regan's man. What Yeah, I said, Maddie wants Reagan's
man like.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
That wants her life.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, she wants her life, which explains to me a
little bit about the sister.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
And they've established it. They're like selfish because they're rich
and entirely right.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
But she's like, I carried that surrogate that baby for you,
and you know I could have died, and she goes,
we knew that. Like there's like acting also bothers me.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
That actually bothered me a little bit. I felt like
the acting wasn't as great, which takes you out of
the storyline.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
The show isn't unflawed, like the storyline is.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
It's good, it's juicy.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
It's much better than season four.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, way better than season four. But I'm just like
not excited about I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Have you had people ask you do I need to
watch season four to watch season five? And I don't
think you do. I think they recap all y'all know, oh.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Do you because I don't. I don't remember a lot
of season four, Like I don't remember him marrying her.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I don't remember the girl because I know I can
tell already because they brought up the other wife, the
black girl. Yeah, I'm to the part where they show her,
like they show a picture of her. I'm not like,
I'm only on episode five and there's five more episodes left,
and I'm just kind of like I'm taking my time
getting through because it's not a mussy for me. Plus,
there's an interesting point in TV during the week right now.
(05:56):
A lot of good shows drop on Friday and Sunday.
And then I watched it was like Monday, Tuesday. Then
I go back to you for Wednesday, Thursday until Friday.
You know what I'm saying, Right, So there's that.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I just want to do a little I think you'll like.
I think you'd be satisfied with the ending, although I
don't think everybody in here was.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I was not happy with the ending.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Oh really, Oh that's right.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
We talked about that, right, right, right, there's a lot
of people not happy with it.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah. I thought the ending sucks. It totally didn't give
me totally closure that I wanted.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
How much time we have about four?
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I thought you said twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Well we're back at thirty one. I was wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
That's not twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Then, well, twenty sevens when the song starts, thirty ones
when it ends. Oh okay, so we have a few
more minutes.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And I thought, I also think that if a year
or two goes by See, Here's what I think happens
on a lot of shows is that they try, the
actors try to make it doing something else and then
they can't and then come back to the show.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Because that's what people know him like.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
He's like Joe is Gospel people know from Gospel Girl,
and people know from You. And think about it, he's
the last lists a ground up. Ten years he's been
playing Joe from you. He hasn't done anything else.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
True.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
That is true. And I do feel though that, like
Dan Humphries from Gossip Girl, the character that he plays
like could very well be Joe. Like Dan may have
changed his changed his name and became Joe Gold because.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
He was around rich people that he didn't care for. Right.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah, but also like just like they like the fact
that Dan was Gossip Girl gives me like the stalker
Joe vibes, Like why do you have tabs on everyone?
You creep? Yes?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Great, I was just gonna weigh in about Penn Badgley Talk.
He's also in a remake came out well before Gossip
Girl of the Stepfather with oh the guy from uh
Nip talk.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
No, but the guy from Lost was the original stepfather. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
John Locke. But this is the one the nice doctor
Doctor McNamara from uh Nip Talk is the stepfather. Yeah,
and it starts with a brutal, like brutal murder of
a family and then Penn Badgley is the step son
and it's like it's like seventeen eighteen year old Penn Badgeley.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You guys seen John Tucker Must Die because he's the
other brother in John Tucker Must Die and he was
like eighteen nineteen and that movie TiO.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yeah, if you want to borrow stepfather on Blu Ray
John my stepfather was mortifying. The second the one with
Sean McNamara is like brutal.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah. When you talk about famous people like Joe do
you know? Also, like Glenn Powell was in Spi Kids.
Is it weird?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Yeah, he's not kid.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yes, he's in one of the Spike Kids movies like
a Kid, which is weird because it's like now he's
just good looking honk and it's.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Like, how do you how do you know that fingered boy?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Right?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Like an extra?
Speaker 5 (08:27):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Emily Osmond was in Spy Kids too, but it's weird.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Knowing like and so when I see him with like
Cidney Sweeney or I see him this this sex symbol.
You're like, he was just a kid in three.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
D Game Over, that's like the best Spike Kids movie.
I think that one came out in theaters and it
was three D. That was epic, right, that was such
a good one.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, what of the stepfather?
Speaker 5 (08:48):
And you know who the girlfriend of Penn Badgley is
who Amber heard? And this was in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Never heard Johnny Dipson.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, dude, this is not Glenn Powell.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
It is too.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
He was weird looking, right, it's weird looking when he
was a kid.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
How old was he had to be, like eleven, twelve, thirteen,
So you're like, you know, you're still everyone's awkward at
that age.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I totally remember him.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
But you're looking at a picture of Elijah Woodrand just.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
So everyone she's not looking at it.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
He's like, he looks weird.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It looks like he should.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Be a hobbit.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Oh he does look like him anyway
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That's her Afterwards podcast Enjoy Hugs and Kisses,
Broadcasting live across the world. Right now. This is the
John Jay and Rich radio program like.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
This afterwards podcast, And I wanted to talk about you
season five because it came out last week and all
three of you, Peyton, Rich and Kyle you're done. You've
watched it all?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Right, Yeah, binged it.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm halfway through now. I will say that it's it's interesting.
I like it, but at the same time, there's things
that really bother me about it that I just let go,
and sometimes I can't let it go. So it's making
me not rush through it like some shows I rush
through it.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Right, We're also not rushing through because you already know
the ending because you watched the last episode, right.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I watched the last episode like four time to speed,
just to get it up when it first came out,
because I wanted to, because I felt so burned by
season four that I didn't want to commit to season five.
So I'm taking my time on season five. And I
don't know. There might be spoiler alerts in this in
this afterwards podcast or might not. I don't know, but
I will say this though, this is kind of because
(01:00):
I sit in the sauna every day for twenty minutes
and every day of twenty minutes. When I do sit
in the sauna, I watch a show, and I can
tell when a show is really good and gets me
when the twenty minutes goes by real fast and season five,
that twenty minutes goes by fast.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Okay, that's good, that's a good show, right.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
But I get irritated. For example, the Maddie Reagan's sister
Reagan's sisters, Like, I just don't believe that they would
hate each other. I know, I know twins. I know
a lot of twins. I know a couple twins that
don't get along. But I just can't believe that part
in there, especially when they when they first realize that
(01:36):
they're captured and then it's like, why don't we work
together to get out of here? Like, I just don't believe.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, because Reagan basically like bullied Matten her entire life.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So I just don't believe that.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I just don't believe the twins have a bond that
are just so. That's a small problem I had. Small, Okay.
The other problem I just have is they live like
they say the Reagan character is a gazillionaire. It lives
in this crazy mansion. Right, you saw them a bowling
alley in the mansion. Gorgeous. Joe breaks into the mansion, right,
And first of all, there's nobody there. I have a
(02:09):
small house compared to them, and there's people in my
house twenty four to seven, no security, nobody working on
the yard, nobody doing it. And not only that, but
when she's doing like a robics class or she's doing
yoga by herself, I would think she'd have a yoga teacher,
probably the most famous yoga teacher in the world, tells
her out of yoga. So that's another small problem I have.
(02:29):
Then he chases her out in the field in the
backyard and wax her with a bullying hit with a
bowling pin right, knocks her out. Okay, believable. Tell me,
Joe how you got her from the back of that
yard to the car to the cage in New York
City without anybody seeing it. That is such a problem.
And the thing about season one that was so great
is you saw him dispose of the bodies, right, So
(02:53):
there's a murder committed. And then in one sentence he goes, well,
I helped Maddy get rid of the evidence, like show
show me how you did that because.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
The season one feel like it's season five. We don't
need to show you that Joe knows how to get
rid of bodies.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Now you do, because I don't think you can get
rid of buy the same way or everybody be doing it.
Like That's the part that's so intriguing is how he
chopped up the bodies in the first place. He threw
some of them it incinerator, like when Dexter does it
nine season of Dexter. You still see him chop them
up and throw them in the ocean. You still him
do whatever. It's like, Joe, it's just a passover. Hey,
so I got rid of the body, bro, how well
(03:28):
you're now famous. People now recognize you because you're married
to this verybody.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
That's the problem. I had the thing where like, okay,
so just put us on a baseball hat and nobody
sees Joe, but he's so recognizable as the husband, like
he's an IT couple. You know. They're like, uh, they're
they're they're like Benny Blanco.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Well, he does mention that at one point that he's
like now the most visible person. Like I feel like
they kind of address that right because.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
He gets recognized by the guy. But so it's kind
of like now I've heard people say, like, I word,
did I see as there was a poster or so
there where someone was like, you know, Joe, you're looking
for someone to love you, but you always had that,
You had that with love. You can't get like he's
he's a mental he's mental, Like he's got a problems.
So you gotta let this. I can't argue with any
of his the stuff that he's saying, you know what
(04:15):
I mean, because like, you're crazy, dude, You're crazy. But
when it comes to the people putting together the show
the way, they just gloss over stuff that bothers the
hell out of me. And that's but I'm still watching it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
But you know what I mean, And I think some
of your concerns I think they address right towards the
end in the plot. Like with the sisters, they get
into that a little bit, right.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No matter how much the sisters hate each other, well
hate each other, I can imagine.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
That Regan's man. What Yeah, I said, Maddie wants Reagan's
man like.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
That wants her life.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, she wants her life, which explains to me a
little bit about the sister.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
And they've established it. They're like selfish because they're rich
and entirely right.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
But she's like, I carried that surrogate that baby for you,
and you know I could have died, and she goes,
we knew that. Like there's like acting also bothers me.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
That actually bothered me a little bit. I felt like
the acting wasn't as great, which takes you out of
the storyline.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
The show isn't unflawed, like the storyline is.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
It's good, it's juicy.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
It's much better than season four.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, way better than season four. But I'm just like
not excited about I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Have you had people ask you do I need to
watch season four to watch season five? And I don't
think you do. I think they recap all y'all know, oh.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Do you because I don't. I don't remember a lot
of season four, Like I don't remember him marrying her.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I don't remember the girl because I know I can
tell already because they brought up the other wife, the
black girl. Yeah, I'm to the part where they show her,
like they show a picture of her. I'm not like,
I'm only on episode five and there's five more episodes left,
and I'm just kind of like I'm taking my time
getting through because it's not a mussy for me. Plus,
there's an interesting point in TV during the week right now.
(05:56):
A lot of good shows drop on Friday and Sunday.
And then I watched it was like Monday, Tuesday. Then
I go back to you for Wednesday, Thursday until Friday.
You know what I'm saying, Right, So there's that.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I just want to do a little I think you'll like.
I think you'd be satisfied with the ending, although I
don't think everybody in here was.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I was not happy with the ending.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Oh really, Oh that's right.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
We talked about that, right, right, right, there's a lot
of people not happy with it.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah. I thought the ending sucks. It totally didn't give
me totally closure that I wanted.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
How much time we have about four?
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I thought you said twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Well we're back at thirty one. I was wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
That's not twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Then, well, twenty sevens when the song starts, thirty ones
when it ends. Oh okay, so we have a few
more minutes.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And I thought, I also think that if a year
or two goes by See, Here's what I think happens
on a lot of shows is that they try, the
actors try to make it doing something else and then
they can't and then come back to the show.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Because that's what people know him like.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
He's like Joe is Gospel people know from Gospel Girl,
and people know from You. And think about it, he's
the last lists a ground up. Ten years he's been
playing Joe from you. He hasn't done anything else.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
True.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
That is true. And I do feel though that, like
Dan Humphries from Gossip Girl, the character that he plays
like could very well be Joe. Like Dan may have
changed his changed his name and became Joe Gold because.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
He was around rich people that he didn't care for. Right.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah, but also like just like they like the fact
that Dan was Gossip Girl gives me like the stalker
Joe vibes, Like why do you have tabs on everyone?
You creep? Yes?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Great, I was just gonna weigh in about Penn Badgley Talk.
He's also in a remake came out well before Gossip
Girl of the Stepfather with oh the guy from uh
Nip talk.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
No, but the guy from Lost was the original stepfather. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
John Locke. But this is the one the nice doctor
Doctor McNamara from uh Nip Talk is the stepfather. Yeah,
and it starts with a brutal, like brutal murder of
a family and then Penn Badgley is the step son
and it's like it's like seventeen eighteen year old Penn Badgeley.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You guys seen John Tucker Must Die because he's the
other brother in John Tucker Must Die and he was
like eighteen nineteen and that movie TiO.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yeah, if you want to borrow stepfather on Blu Ray
John my stepfather was mortifying. The second the one with
Sean McNamara is like brutal.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah. When you talk about famous people like Joe do
you know? Also, like Glenn Powell was in Spi Kids.
Is it weird?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Yeah, he's not kid.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yes, he's in one of the Spike Kids movies like
a Kid, which is weird because it's like now he's
just good looking honk and it's.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Like, how do you how do you know that fingered boy?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Right?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Like an extra?
Speaker 5 (08:27):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Emily Osmond was in Spy Kids too, but it's weird.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Knowing like and so when I see him with like
Cidney Sweeney or I see him this this sex symbol.
You're like, he was just a kid in three.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
D Game Over, that's like the best Spike Kids movie.
I think that one came out in theaters and it
was three D. That was epic, right, that was such
a good one.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, what of the stepfather?
Speaker 5 (08:48):
And you know who the girlfriend of Penn Badgley is
who Amber heard? And this was in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Never heard Johnny Dipson.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, dude, this is not Glenn Powell.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
It is too.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
He was weird looking, right, it's weird looking when he
was a kid.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
How old was he had to be, like eleven, twelve, thirteen,
So you're like, you know, you're still everyone's awkward at
that age.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I totally remember him.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
But you're looking at a picture of Elijah Woodrand just.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
So everyone she's not looking at it.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
He's like, he looks weird.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It looks like he should.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Be a hobbit.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Oh he does look like him anyway
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That's her Afterwards podcast Enjoy Hugs and Kisses,
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!