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August 22, 2025 • 97 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Glad to have you long look at it. You almost wait.
It made it through another week of wild weather, wild news,
everything under the sun, and we just keep cruising. Eventually
it'll be the holidays, which you'll either love or hate.
But any who, we are we're in that glut, that
home stretch of no vacate days, so we keep trucking.

(00:22):
But like I said, the news cycle keeps up every
day learning something new, like the number of people who
are in the US legally I might add, Let's just
be clear, these are people who are in the country legally, probably,
and what I mean by that is, at the very

(00:44):
least upon entry they received a visa. I'm not sure
from a visa overstay standpoint the percentage, but it blew
me away to learn about the number of people that
are thought to be legally in the US who are
not US citizens. Okay, because keep in mind, in US

(01:04):
citizens wouldn't count. I'm assuming greenhol Green card holders are
among these because they still I guess they still have
of the green card is a visa technically, I'm not sure.
But the the number of quote unquote US legal immigrants,

(01:26):
because yesterday the Trump administration said they will be reviewing
all of all of the visa holders. I'm assuming looking
for overstays and also, and I think people are missing this,
they're also they also want to compare people who are
here on a visa who may have violated terms of

(01:47):
the visa, because remember, a visa is a is a gift. Okay,
there's no legal you're not legally entitled one. As many
lawsuits and and it will probably come up as a
result of this, it's very clear. This is like that
remember that law we talked about during Trump's first administration

(02:09):
where they're like, when it comes to allowing people in
from different countries, there is a very clear law that
says that the basically at the whim of the president,
he doesn't have to explain his reasoning, he can essentially
shut off migration between another country. Right, And he did,
and then they're like, ah, I try to it's a
Muslim ban. You remember all that garbage, right, And then

(02:31):
eventually he won it. Why because the law was so clear.
This is really clear too when it comes to visas.
It essentially it's the president's purview, but it's really Marco
Rubio's the Secretary of State, and he can revoke it.
At any time for any reason, because again, there is
no entitlement as it pertains to a visa. So I

(02:53):
think what they're going to be looking for is they're
going to be looking to see if people maybe had
to run in with the law, but they did so
in one of these uncooperative cities, and at that point,
maybe they'll violate their visa and be like, Nope, you
got to go, and they would, they would probably they
might be eligible to come back, but at the very
least that visa is gone. Sorry, go home, Try again

(03:14):
next time. But it's the number at any given time
as you are walking around now, obviously dispersal is going
to be different depending on where you're going, and you
come across six people, one of those people is probably.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
On a visa.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
And again this doesn't even account for people who are
here without a visa. I e. Illegally fifty five million
active visas right now in the United States for a
whole host of reasons. Clearly, right, you got tourism, right,
that's good. We want that. You have people who maybe

(03:52):
here going to school. We can argue about that, but
that's not you know, that's not necessarily problematic. You have
I guess maybe people who are in the process, and
they are they're doing everything that they're supposed to right
there in the process of getting permanent residency here. So

(04:13):
you know, most people I know don't object to that.
I understand there's some people are like shut everything down
and I and look, I also understand why some people
have gravitated more towards that, because they're just looking at
a system that's so out of control. You just got
to kind of get a handle on it. You got
to go cold turkey and get a handle on things. So, like,

(04:36):
you know, I'm assuming the majority of the people that
they're going to that they would review are fine. Maybe
they're here for a work thing. I know that's a
point of debate, but whatever. So again, those those are
likely going to be fine. But the fact that there's
fifty five million visas at any one time is just

(04:57):
a crazy number to me. Honestly, don't know how I
feel about it. Because if it's fifty five million tourists,
everyone's happy, right, If it's half tourists half people that
are following the legal process, I think most people would
be okay. But yeah, there's this is the problem when
there's no trust between the partners, because the underlying thing

(05:20):
is not just visa overstays, but also previous vetting and
anything that may have transpired in a sanctuary area where
maybe they wouldn't report. And I don't know what all
those scenarios look like, but yeah, it's a crazy big number. Man. So,
like I said, learning something new each and every day.

(05:42):
All right, coming up on the show, Disney needs your help.
I will try to help them, right, because here's the deal.
Even if you got beef with Disney, and you know,
for for whatever reason, maybe if the price is the
the activism down in Florida, just the disintegration of a

(06:04):
lot of core values that we used to associate with Disney.
In some people's minds, they're Disney's Disney. They're not going anywhere,
per se. So if they need help, and it will
make for a better product that people can celebrate more
and maybe feel a little of that Disney nostalgia we
remember from when we were kids. I'll take a swing

(06:26):
at it. I don't know it'll do any good, but
we're here. We're helpful. That's what this show is. If
if anything else, we're helpers, we're givers. That's that's that's
what we do around these parts. And so that'll be
coming up. Yet another iconic brand because apparently it's it's

(06:46):
it's trash or iconic brand week. It enters the chat
and we'll have a follow up on how Cracker Barrel's
day went yesterday. Some would say that it was not good,
but that's just people who can do math. So that

(07:06):
and Pete Callander, our radio buddy to the South. He'll
join us. That'll be at eight oh five as per
usual since it is Friday. All right, So there's a
quick little rundown. We got some audio we got to
get into. Oh we got Hulk Hogan update. I don't
know if this is going to turn into a thing,
but I'm not liking this direction that we're headed. But

(07:31):
it still sounds like family beef. But now there's others
that are kind of throwing their hat and I'll explain
it to you as well. Let's do this. We'll go
and take a break and then we'll just jump right
into this as we see what's up with the Texas
runaway Democrats because they're back kind of, I mean they're there,
they're not really wanting to do anything, and they're they're

(07:52):
having these big, weird press conferences that I don't feel
are going well. But this might be one of the
most insane things I've heard a lawmaker say in a while.
And that's saying something considering who all of our lawmakers
are so six fourteen, Hang on, dude, that's got to
be the worst part. Or maybe it's the fun part.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Ross. Would you let's say we get really old and
much more famous, and then one day you're just sitting
there in the old retirement home or whatever, and you'd
start you see your trending and you're like, I'm dead.
What the heck's going on? Are you gonna feel really
bad about that? Or is that kind of funny that
enough people?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
I would like it. I would sit back and watch
the reaction.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Would you inject stuff?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
You'd be like I saw the body you No, no, no,
I'd probably I would just be silent, but I would
watch it, probably at least for a day before I
sit because if you'd start trending that you're dead, that
means enough people still appreciate what you did, are really
glad you're dead. I guess right, But you'd have to
sit back and watch it.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, see who your real friends are, right if you
got to play the long game to see if one
of your friends writes a tell all about what an
a hole you are and then like jump out of
the shadows six months later, like ah, I knew. So
the actor played mister Feenie and what else did he play? Ross?
Go ahead?

Speaker 2 (09:09):
He was the voice of Kid.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yes, poor guy was Uh, you know, he's just he's
just trying to pimp nostalgia. So he's got like a store, right,
and he is selling autographed head shots. You know, turn
a little cash. I don't know what the residuals coming

(09:30):
in with those are right now, but yeah, a little
little side hustle there, but you know, he puts it
up and clearly it's a headshot from his time, you
know away now he was also in Hill Street Blues.
He was in the Graduates. So depending on I guess
what generation, you already may know him from other stuff.
But so he's just he's just selling these head shots, man.
And for whatever reason, I guess people because it kind

(09:53):
of sounded when the first part. And this is the
problem with some social media outlets where you could and Facebook,
Twitter kind of does this too. You can read so
much of it without clicking to expand, and some people
are so lazy, man, they just don't expand. So at
the beginning it sounded more like a hey, here's all
the stuff he did, and then it's an old photo,

(10:14):
so people jump to conclusions. They're like, I guess he's dead.
Look at that. That's very sad. And he stayed. William
Daniels is his name, by the way, and then he
does his own social media, so you had to get
on there. He's like, yeah, nope, not dead. Not dead.
I will say this, though, I was a little disappointed

(10:38):
because then he was like interacting. He was saying that
his favorite role ever was mister Feenie and Boy Meets World,
whereas I'm a night writer kind of guy, and I
gotta tell you, I never really got in the Boy
Meets World. I think I think Ross you and I
were probably what just like for or four years too old.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
It was right after our age group, like I can.
Marquis is all about that show, like, yeah, my little sisters,
my little sisters, watch the heck out of it. Yeah,
it's one of her favorite shows. In fact, she listens
to a podcast which has the formal you know the
former stars of the show that talk about the show.
So oh really, yeah, where the former actors the kid
actors is talking about like a Fred Savage's brother Ben Savage,

(11:20):
the girl that plays to Panga. You know, they all
get together and talk about it. She listens to that
podcast like all the time. She loves is the porn
the porn chick on there or not? I believe she
was on at one point. Yeah, she was a guest.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, one of the characters started doing like adult films
see and I don't know what I think it was. Again,
I think it was just an age thing. Ross and
I were talking off the air, like for us. There's
two other versions of this that I think are far superior,
and one does involve a Savage and that's the OG
Wonder Years.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, there's a comparison. And you have that group, you
know that's in Markey's group where they love Boy Meets
World and they they feel that Boy Meets World is
the super hear your show compared to the they do,
compared to the Wonder Years, And it's because what they're
brought up on, what they watched and when their kids.
To me, that's absurd, right right. The production value of

(12:12):
the Wonder Years, the weight of the Wonder Years, the
content of the Wonder Years. I mean it opens up
with that. I believe the first episode I remember takes
place where it's MLK. You know, I have a dream
speech is in the first episode. It's like a big
you know, there's a lot of heavy issues in the
Wonder Years because of the the era and the Vietnam
War and everything that happened in the sixties and the seventies.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's much I would say it's
much more drama. So maybe that's not a fair comparison.
I think what would be a fairer comparison as I
don't want to say slapstick, but something that is comedy
first and you know, will have occasional dramatic episodes, but
is much more as much lighter. Would be saved by
the bell who also yeah, who also had an actress

(12:56):
go do adult stuff. So and I think I would
go Elizabeth Berkeley over the bloy Me World girl if
I had to choose. You can't hold her against that.
That's just the slide you see when you get addicted
to caffeine pills. On the very special episode the.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Best part about that episode, I think anyway, I think
this is true. Maybe it was pulling it out of
my ass. It's possible too, but I believe that was
supposed to be like a real drug she was on
in that episode, and they couldn't pull it off because
of the sensors. So they had to make into caffeine pills.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
You know. That works for the for the for the
attitude of the show. That's fine, dude, you know. And
that's what's crazy, is like, if you go through the
sitcoms of our era, like I can tell you the
very special episodes, man, those are the ones that stick
with you.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, no, I remember the there were the caffeine pills
and say by the bell, of course you're thinking of
cherry trapped in the refrigerator and which was traumatic. As
a kid, I was fast.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
We had one of those fridges. I think we still
do because those things run forever. We had one of
those fridges was our garage fridge.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Right, and after you're seeing that episode, right, you'd walk
past the fridge and be like, whoa, I'm back away
from it.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
I wasn't allowed in there anyway, because that's where the
beer was. But yeah, but I'm like, I think gonna
eat me. Man, What the heck's going on?

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Why did you ever watch Blossom a little bit?

Speaker 2 (14:16):
That that was the joey guy, right though?

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Whoa that guy?

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, but you also had like a
pregnancy scare on there, which you know, yes, yeah, man,
they didn't lean into it every now and then, but
those very special episodes are the ones that stand out. Man.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
But I will say the guy, So, the guy that
plays the voice of Kid and mister Feenie. Him saying
that mister Feenie is is like, you know, most important role.
I would say, he has a generation of kids who
love him for that role. And now you know, we
loved his voice as a car, they love him as
the guy.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
You know.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Okay, So with that in mind, I know he says
he's not dead, but you know who else would say
he's not dead?

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, that's just what a robotic car would say.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
I'd figured this out. I was just explaining to Ross
because I heard a commercial with this in it that
we've been running a whole bunch of and I like,
I don't I don't blame the commercial. I understand that
they're targeting the kids but I don't like it. So
I figured out what my old man hatred thing is
going to be, right, Because as you get older, you
get to pick something that bothers the hell out of you,
so you can gripe about it. Can we? I just

(15:25):
can we not with the abbreviating of the words, because
it just smacks, it smacks as lazy, like yeah, and
the thing that triggered me was fit. Ross do you
like the word fit? Are you a fan of fit?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
I mean, what do you mean, like a leg healthy?
Like you're healthy, like you're fit?

Speaker 1 (15:42):
No, No, that would mean you're being fit. And people
would say, well, that's an abbreviation of fitness. No, it's
a separate use of it. It's a it's a it's
an adjective, whereas fitness is a noun. I guess it
can be other things, but but that's different.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
No.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Fit in the context that the modern the kids are
using it is your clothing, what you're dressed.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Oh yeah, no, I haven't. I haven't used that ever.
I don't think yet. I haven't done that.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
And they'll do things like they'll post a picture of
themselves walking out the door to go to school or something.
They'll be like fit check, and then all their friends
are like, ah, you look great or you don't or whatever,
and it's a you can say outfit you can't, I understand,
it's an extra syllable and or still as I just started,
but like, see you see how noxious that is. So

(16:30):
that's that one, and then there's just other ones because
I've decided that begrudgingly, I might try to figure stuff out,
but only for the purpose of marketing on the radio.
In normal course of conversation, I'm just gonna nod like
I understood what you said, and then never think of
it again.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
You know.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
The funny thing is because of the Twitch broadcast, like
I've I've met some people that I probably wouldn't have,
you know, become friends with. Obviously, you meet people across
the country and.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
There's a big age difference.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Now there's a big age. It's like a lot of
people they'll be and to me they're like young kids,
but they're in their mid twenties. But for me, that's
young now, Like I see like a twenty year old
and you look like a child to me.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, You're like, what greater are you?

Speaker 6 (17:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, it's so weird. I'm like was I ever that young?
I'm not sure, but like so they'll send me texts
and they'll use new slang or they'll use shorter words
and they don't use punctuation because punctuation isn't a thing.
I guess it's that's something that old people do now.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
It's all about eliminating like effort is the way. I think.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
It's just like how slang works too. I know Jim
Brewer I think did a bit on it. But somebody
sent me a text that had the word dead ass
in it, and the first time I saw it, I
was like, I didn't know what it meant. Yeah, And
then you couple that with the lack of punctuation, no punctuation.
Everything's in lowercase. And I feel like at times when
I get like messages sent to me r dms or

(17:47):
tweets or whatever, I feel like I'm I'm Indiana Jones
or something, and I'm like, I'm trying to figure out
Sanskrit or Sumerian or something like right the shield of
the night, I have no idea what this is that
you sent to me, and I'll and I'll tell them
that or they'll drop like the big thing and it's
more understanding, right. It's like they'll drop like anime references
which completely have no idea what they're talking about, never.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Heard of, that's it's here's the note, that's its own thing.
They're not like with the anime, it's its own ip.
And so they're making up characters and references and it's
not a bastardization necessarily of the English.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Now, but it's just more things for me to be
lost upon correct And then I will tell them. I
will tell them, hey, dude, I have no idea what
you said to me, and it's taken me out, like
I don't even know what these words, these slang words
you are? What does this mean? And they think that
I'm being funny, like like I'm playing up the old
man thing, like Haha, you're so funny, you're so old.

(18:41):
I'm like, no, dude, I'm not kidding. I really am old.
I have no idea what you're talking about right now?

Speaker 1 (18:46):
So what is dead ass?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
By the way, like like you're like you're dead ass serious?

Speaker 1 (18:51):
See all right, So I'm going to make a decision
here for on this show. Dead ass can mean either
your donkey died, Okay, that will be acceptable, or uh,
the phenomenon when you sit on the toilet for too
long scrolling that would be acceptable.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
That's tough. That's a tough one.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, I can that one. That one would be fine
as well, but I'm not using it in the other fashion.
And then there's other stuff that isn't necessarily an abbreviation.
It's just dumb. We've talked about like foodie on the show.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, FOODI is stupid, like people like who classify themselves
as foodies. And I thought, oh I love food. Yeah,
I need food to survive. That's something.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Oh Ross has a food edition. Oh no, buddy, Yeah, yeah,
we like Oh you like oh you like to consume
things that keep you alive? Okay, well nice for you.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's my passion. Yeah, going back to the the the
dead ass thing. I saw a gift yesterday of on
a wrestling account and it was Rick Flair walking during
the flare flop where you know that's the Flair flop.
It's a great move where he walks and just falls
forward like he flops. Yea yeah, And it said me
after reading me and in the toilet for twenty minutes.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Okay, see that's fair man. The blood flowing what it
used to be by the way, I just because we
see a lot of the same stuff. Did you see
the somebody posted a picture of a nineteen eighties wrestling
event from Madison Square Garden and the title Matt It
was the Flare Hulk Hogan was the top one. But

(20:22):
you looked at all you looked at every single other
match that was poster built, and every single one was amazing.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I saw one yesterday, but it was it was like
a make believe one, like what if WWF Legends went
against w c W Legends at the Sea. That's what
I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, it was great. It was
like Mister Man versus Arnie Anderson Rick Flack. Yeah, dude,
it was so great. Yeah, no, it was so it
was so great.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, yeah, that would can you imagine if that it
was a thing going to that thing?

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Oh, it would have been the greatest thing of all time.
Oh oh yeah, so Chip the Snake in versus Barry
Windham it was great.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you had ravaging Wick rude. Uh oh,
and the the tag teams were good too, right, who
was it was Demolition versus the Road Wars? Yes, oh
that would have been at that point you couldn't go
to another wrestling event because everything would be a downgrade,

(21:20):
you know what I'm saying. Anyway, all right, so there
we go. Yeah, we're old manning it up here on
the show this morning. But that's okay. Let's head to Tahas,
shall we, the state of Texas where the runaway Democrats
are back. But let's just say, I don't know everything
they do is is not a good look. We'll get

(21:42):
to well, hold on, let me start here. So one
of the one of the Democrats, what is her name,
Nicole Collier, just to show you how political this is,
because you know Gaven Newsom is and now they've taken
a vote in California even though they have an independent
redistricting commission. So I don't know how they can just

(22:03):
override something that was a constitutional amendment. Now granted, in
California it's not independent. It's abundantly clear. I've told you
in California there's like forty three Democrats, there's nine Republicans,
and that that is not a representative of the state.
Right And you talk about, well North Carolina doesn't or
this state or Tennessee doesn't, or whatever whatever you want.

(22:26):
But the reality is they purport to have a have
fixed the problem, and it's it's one of the worst
that's out there. So clearly there's compromise because the forty
percent of the state of North Carolina popular of California
popular vote went to Trump, so forty three to nine
does not seem to represent forty to sixty percent spam.

(22:49):
So whatever. So Collier decides she's going to jump on
a virtual press conference with Gavin Newsom and a few
other people, and this lunatic starts conducting it from the restroom.
So she's filming in the restroom to to own the Republicans,

(23:14):
never for a moment stopping to think about the fact
that you're having an entire and this wasn't just a
one on one call with Newsom. Understand she's filming from
a restroom something that potentially anyone could watch, right, because
they're streaming this thing. Everyone in the world could have
logged into that.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I know you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, well, and that's just common sense, right, that would
tell you that.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
I remember going back to streaming, like the doctor disrespect right,
the streamer that's the wig and like the alpha male
sort of like you know.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Something to get canceled.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
He got canceled because he broadcasted a line from a
bathroom during during TwitchCon or whatever it was. Yeah, you
can't do that. That's illegal.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I remember they were when they were chasing the Arizona
Senator into the bathroom. Now, but the difference was those
were moonbat activists, uh and doctor disrespect. No disrespect is
not a lawmaker, right who should have a better sense
of what is legal and what isn't legal since you
make the stuff legal and illegal. But now listen to this.

Speaker 7 (24:14):
I am confined in the room. Apparently Republican German had
decided that least out to go tee right now.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
What I'm trying to share my.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
Message with you.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
This is, by the way, this is the funny part,
because she's complaining because she thinks it's a conspiracy that
they've come into the bathroom. Uh, just just to be
mean to her, Just to show you how disconnected this
lunatic is.

Speaker 7 (24:38):
I am confined in the bathroom. Apparently Republican German had
decided at least out to go tee right now. What
I'm trying to share my message with you. Everyone's here,
but we're gonna we're gonna push through this today, we
are setting the stage so that we can have a
legal record.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
So she's like, f off, I'm gonna do what I
want now. Never mind they're in a recess, which seems
like when people would go to the bathroom, Like, let's say, Ross,
if I wanted to go to the bathroom right now,
or if I wanted to do it here in a
few minutes when I go to break, which would be
the more appropriate time to go to the bathroom?

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Do you think probably during the commercial break?

Speaker 1 (25:20):
During the commercial break, Yeah, because that's what we do,
is normal people, That's what we do, all right. So anyway,
so she's just like, I'm just going to keep doing
this thing, and she does for a little.

Speaker 7 (25:30):
While to present to the court about these proposed maps
that we know our environment go Secsion two the Vilding
Rights Act. These maps will prevent black and brown individuals
from selecting the candidates of their choice because they're cracking
and pacting these districts. They are splitting them up, and

(25:51):
they're not allowing communities that share have shared interest to
vote for the candidate of their choice.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Now, the problem she's going to run into, Sorry, I'm
stopping this and we'll get to the payoff here in
a moment. They're going to have problem with that argument
because these districts are going to be majority Hispanic. I'm
not saying, Look, I'm not saying it's not Jerry Manner.
It clearly is. But what I'm pointing out is the

(26:19):
Republicans thought of that, probably, although maybe they didn't, because
then the argument is, you used race here. But it's
like the argument in North Carolina was they were using
race to draw districts. In Texas, they're mad because she
claims they're not using race to draw districts. Just to
show you how all over the place this stuff is.

Speaker 7 (26:37):
Actively they said, it's a felony for me to do.
See this, Apparently I can't be on the floor or
in the bathroom. Well you told me I was only
allowed to be here in the bathroom. No, hang on
by everybody.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
I've got to go.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
No, nobody told her that. That's the surgeon in arms.
They're telling her this. No, they said that you can't
have a political press conference on the floor, which is true,
and not just in Texas, literally everywhere that I've ever
talked about state legislatures and at the federal level, and

(27:10):
also you can't film. You can't film in a bathroom,
you can't live stream in it, but you can't do it.
You could do it in your own bathroom at your house,
but you can't do it in a publicly accessible restroom.
So I guess my question is are those the only
two rooms at the Texas Capitol? The chamber and the bathroom.

(27:35):
I feel like there might be I don't know, offices,
little side rooms, a sitting area, maybe out in the
public area in the rotunda, which she doesn't want to
go do that because then people who disagree with her
would probably you know, jump behind her and make faces.
But like just the lunacy, and I thought that was

(27:55):
pretty stupid. And then they got back into session and
they decided to take it up a notch. So now
she's got to sit here and and it's her turn

(28:16):
to speak. So this is the same woman from the bathroom.
So she's decided she's come up with an argument that
she thinks is going to be a good argument to
push back on what's going on. And I'm really dismayed
by her colleagues choosing to applaud her after even though
it's insane, as well as any of the spectators there.

(28:36):
But I think the fact that there's a pause between
when she says it, it proves to me that in
their brain they clocked what she said, and people probably
were like, did she just say that?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I thought it was like a courteous clap, Like a courtesy.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Clap, yeah, because like your side has to clap for you.
But the fact that they didn't instat clap lets me
know that they probably realize that she shouldn't have said this.
So what did she say? I'll play for you uninterrupted?
Here we go, Chairman.

Speaker 8 (29:07):
Are you aware that during slavery blacks fled? Are you
aware that during the slavery times blacks fled, they ran away?

Speaker 1 (29:19):
I can't hear you very well.

Speaker 8 (29:20):
Are you aware that when there was slavery times, blacks fled?
During the Nazi times, Jewish people fled, They fled their oppressor.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Ah. So, just to re claire the argument she's making,
she and her colleagues are the jew the Jews and
the slaves in this scenario, who fled a quorum? Which
ross you fire up to ross Ai? Can you can
you see what's worse slavery, the Nazis or a quorum

(30:06):
where you have a vote. Just see if the AI
can make it a judgment.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Saying that the slavery in the Nazis or that's that's
that's worse than the.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Okay, then the quorum where you show up and get
paid to voka.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
She is an elected member of the state of Texas, right, correct,
So she's pretty elite and privileged. One would argue, yeah,
that's pretty pretty high profile, so for her to be
making that comparison. But if we let's let's take that comparison,
as absurd as it is and take it to the
logical conclusion. If she is comparing herself to a runaway
slave or a jew in hiding from the Nazis. Yes,

(30:38):
you know, you know what those people did not do.
They did not return back to their states, right, volunteer
to hold a press conference.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
But you don't remember then, Frank Presser, what or Harry
remember what? Harry Tubman was like? She went that back down.
She said, I owned, y' all right.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I'm going to go back because you know what, because reasons. Yeah,
it's so nuts.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I mean, technically Tubman did go back, but she was
not holding pressers. She was conducting the underground railroad Man
it's so bad. But if that's where you see yourself,
how do you negotiate with somebody like that? If she
believes that, I think she does. I think that's how

(31:22):
looney tunes some of these folks are. If you think
that you are oppressed to that level, and you would
compare yourself to a fugitive slave, or to a Jewish family,
you know, hiding in somebody's basement, or or you know,
trying to make your way at least out of German

(31:42):
occupied portions of Europe. To your point, yes, why would
you go back? But also you could not. You could
not convince somebody who had just escaped a plantation where
they had watched, you know, horrendous things happen, or somebody
who had been jammed into a ghetto and watched, you know,

(32:03):
all of your neighbors gets taken away on trains and
never return. You're not going to be able to tell,
you know, convince them that the Nazis have some good ideas,
or this slavery thing actually is good for agricultural production,
you know what I'm saying. You're never going to convince
him of that. So if she is at that mental
level where she thinks it's the same thing. Why even

(32:25):
negotiate with her? Just hold the votes. I mean, I
understand why Texas some accent is doing it. One there's procedural,
but two they they keep sinking themselves because now there's
video of this woman making that comparison. But if she
honestly believes that your side's cooked, man, stop putting the
craziest person at the podium. People criticize Republicans because it's

(32:49):
generally more milk toast to do the pressers. But this
is the reason why we'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
So, you know, we've talked about preseason football, and you
know it is what it is where it is useful
obviously as teams are trying to figure you know, what
does this work? How about this? Let's plug this player
in and see how they perform and in some lead,
you know, in the closest thing we have the regular season,

(33:15):
and from there you kind of have to extrap. And
it's not like if your if your team might loses
twenty eight to twenty five or whatever, it's not necessarily
indicative of the season. However, Ross, did you happen to
catch any of the last night's game? Well, do you
watch any do you get any clips of the preseason yesterday?

Speaker 2 (33:36):
You know, I haven't watched any preseason football.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Oh okay, because the Patriots lost forty two to ten
to the Giants, and they looked awful.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
What I mean, it's preseason, so you've got to understand
that your backup saying and your second string in and well.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
But also there was some you know, there are some starting.
I'll tell you. The thing that I was looking at
is the Patriots d and they look like they'd never
practiced together, which is a big problem. I don't know,
I don't know who all the starters are gonna be.
But Tommy, by the way, I love this guy's name.
Remember the guy, Tommy DeVito, the Giants backup quarterback. He

(34:15):
looked like a pro bowler. He threw three tds a
two hundred yards on like twenty passes. Jackson Dart, who's
the rookie they took mah oh, and one of the
guys who was doing play by play had a hot
mic moment where he was trashing on Dart's release time too,
So everyone's all buzzed about that. Honestly, as I watched

(34:37):
the game, the only person on the Patriots staff who
looked like they knew what they were doing. Is the
Patriots brand new male cheerleader. So that dude was killing We.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
Salute you, mister male football cheerleader.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Patriots.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Real men don't just play smash mouth football. Real men
turn cart wheels and somersaults on the sidelines, took safely
away from the action.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Now touch me there sports down.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
And inches the games on the line. It all comes
down to you. Will you call for a turky pyramid
or a peppy line dance, knock them back, knock them back.

Speaker 9 (35:20):
All the way to hack and sack.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
So grab an ice code.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
But like mister Mayo football cheerleader, you may never show
a touchdown, but you're kind of that's gotta count for something,
miss may.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
Likely.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
So I'd say that's probably the strongest person on your
guys' roster.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Right right, we're talking about the Patriots, right yeah, yeah, yeah,
the pay last Yeah. But that cheerleader you mean the Pats,
Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Patriots cheerleader, yeah, yeah, one who's the dude who cheers Patriots?

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah, Like, you know, it's crazy hearing that ad from
what like nineteen ninety eight, they on how much capital
they squandered yes, yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
We have two of those in the system. We also
have the hurricane weather guy that I played for race sometimes.
Oh I forgot to play last week. All right, we'll
play next time we have a hurricane. Yeah. Man, they
were in a groove. You remember. Do you remember bud
Light commercials for basically the entirety of our childhood.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yes, all of them.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
They killed it. Bud Bud, bud Light, Budweiser had the
most iconic commercials. Yeah, possibly of those two decades.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
You had those ones where the guy that sang by
the way, just that guy is a talent, The guy
that says in the background, that guy was, oh my god,
it's great. And coupled with the deep voice guy the
frogs you had the Wizard was up guys.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yea, And people were like, oh, you guys are hypocrites
because you were like, ah, you were trashing on slang
earlier back there, Eat Me Eat my shorts anyway, So
what do people not use that anymore?

Speaker 2 (36:53):
This is crazy how you can go from like that
to where they are now.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, and they're trying right now. They're like, oh gosh,
get Peyton Manning and Shane Gillis to do all of
our ads. That would have been a great idea about
I don't know six years ago, wouldn't it. And it's
like Peyton hasn't been doing stuff, but you're like, nah,
how about what let's go Dylan Mulvaaney, brilliant, all right,

(37:17):
marketing director, Hey, you should go on a podcast and
trash all your customers. Done, done done. That's where we
find ourselves, So kudos to you. You Pats fans probably
probably want that dude play in all the different positions,
which he might. So, you know, I don't know what
the injuries are going to be shaping up this season,

(37:37):
but yeah, even in preseason forty two to ten woof
any who, speaking of squandering legacy brands, we've been talking
obviously about what's going on with the you know, with
the Cracker Barrel, and it's very interesting watching people's reaction
to it because a lot of people are going, well,

(37:57):
this isn't a go woke, go broke, and that's not
it's not necessarily a go woll go broke, although it
might be. There's some stuff emerging of really what cracker
Barrel implemented from a DEI standpoint, and it's a it's
like a kind of steroid version of some of the
other stuff we've seen with companies. But the bigger problem

(38:18):
is is the idea from a market these you know,
these marketing agencies where you have you know, a lot
of really young people, but you also have people who
don't have emotional connections to brands, which can both be
a good thing and a bad thing, right, it can
be you know, you can get stuck in your ways

(38:40):
and then you get a myopic view of things. But
the other side of it is if you don't understand
what motivates your customers to be your customers, which is
clearly something that bud Light found out the hard way.
And you and you and also within your life, you
don't understand what motive what? How do how I don't

(39:03):
want to say how the other half lives, but how
normal people live. Because you're a you're a super successful
marketing exec up in New York City, right and you
and and you think and you refer to anywhere outside
of the coast as fly over in a negative way,
You're not going to be able to successfully steer a

(39:25):
brand like Cracker Barrel, a brand that is the nostalgia
and and and everything that's connected to it is one
that harkens back to uh, you know the reason there's
even little things like the tables, like you go to
the tables, how the tables used to be. Those are
like your standard country kitchen table. It it has that

(39:46):
southern vibe, but it doesn't it's not necessarily just southern.
You can see a little bit of it if you
live in the Midwest and you know from a farmer's
perspective or any of the rest and that those are
your core audience. These are people who come there after church.
You probably don't even go to church. And also if
you were just if they come to you and they're like, hey,
we need a rebrand, You're like, no, I think you're good,

(40:07):
they'll probably not come to you again.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Well it's so I mean, listen, people went there because
you wanted to feel like you were going to grandma's
house or whatever. Yes, that's the way you went there.
That was the point of it.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
And and and and and if you if you don't
have that experience, if you don't place value in the
traditional family, who would come after church? I mean that's honestly,
if when you know one of the you remember one
of the things that they ask us to do in
radio is they go tell us who your listener is, right,

(40:40):
and then you and you, So it's a it's an
exercise that they do in radio. So what they say is,
all right, who's your listener. They don't give us a
broad range. They mean create a dude or a woman
out of thin air, all right. And so in news
talk you would go, all right, my listener's Bob. And
Bob is he's forty five. He works. He works in

(41:02):
a managerial position, but maybe in a blue collar setting
or or in a white collar And again, I'm not
going to give out all the stuff that we have
on ours. I'm sure that that's company stuff. But but
and and he's got he's got three kids. He might
be divorced, but probably not. And he lives in this
part of town, and he makes this amount of money,
and he drives this kind of vehicle. And it's an

(41:24):
exercise so that you never forget who it is you're.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Talking to, right, And a lot of stations will have
you like print out Bob, like his face put in
front of you, so you're like that you're talking to
that guy, talking.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
To that guy. Now, it doesn't always work in every circumstance.
This show deviates demographically from the rest of the station,
which is by design. That's the kind of show I
wanted to do. I appreciate and and and what Ross
and I do. And I will give kudos to our management.
We don't get a lot of pushback because we put

(41:58):
a high value on for me and so it has
allowed us to have It's it's a very very big
tent because.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
It's about to say, the net's bigger than it used
to be, a lot bigger. And I love it.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
I love it. We have a lot more female listeners,
which people don't necessarily associate. We have a lot younger
listeners with people don't necessarily associate, and I love it.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
It used to be too, like the consultants would come
in and it would be like harder to do because
I was so out of what the what the demo? Like,
you know, it was like, you know, twenty, like thirty,
you know, younger, And now it's like I've sort of
become the demo.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah, but if you're but if you hire a consultant
who thinks that they have to do something to get paid,
and I've been in those meetings that person comes in
and they go, all right, well, you're your demo is
not the traditional news talks. So what we need to
do is you need to core focus on what is
in the traditional thing. And and and I'm like, so
you just want me to say f you to like
twenty percent of my listeners. What that's the kind of

(42:55):
bad advice. It's attaching to things like this cracker barrel thing,
if that makes sense. And I don't. I I like,
I don't understand the the ritualistic suicide that that that
it is. And people want to go, well, it's a
it's a woman in there. No, no, no, no, there's

(43:16):
there's plenty of women who understand who their who their
demo is. Some of the best managers I've had in radio,
by the way, have been women in this format because
they get it. Because you also have to get that
maybe you don't get it that not everyone is a
multi millionaire CEO of we're of a traded stock company. Okay,

(43:38):
that's where you got to rely on. Not focus groups
that you cobble together in LA or New York. You
should be focus groups. And also focus groups are also
people who want to be in focus groups. I would
tend to think that a lot of people who would
be your, your, your cracker barrel regulars want nothing to
do with sit in a room with a bunch of suits.

(43:58):
Do you know what I'm saying? You know, because they're busy,
They got stuff to do, They got to go out
and work, and they want to spend time with their
kids and their grandkids. And then occasionally they want to
go over to the your your restaurant and have a
consistent meal and a consistent experience over there. Those people,
it's the same problem they run into with the with
the various polling right. The problem with poles is most

(44:23):
the people you probably want to talk to and get
insight don't want to talk to you. They just want
things to be what they are, so you throw all
your eggs in that basket. Let me give you another
example yesterday, Ross when I say, notre dame, what do
you think of from a branding standpoint, university? Not the

(44:44):
not the thing?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Like the Irish leper kunk guy with his like you know,
fists up, like you know, come here.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Like yeah, what do they call them? They don't just
call them the Irish? What they call them the fighting
Irish fite Irish man. What you want to talk about
one of the most long running burned into our red
understood branding in all of I would argue outside it
not just even sports. The fight in Irish are their
own thing. They're such their own thing. They wouldn't even

(45:10):
get into division to play football, and we were like cool.
They were the fighting Irish. And even people who have
never been to Indiana to South Bend had some sort
of even through their Irish heritage, they had some nostalgia.
You know, many people I know are are are Notre

(45:31):
Dame fans who've never been to Notre Dame because they
like the fighting Irish concept. So how do you go ahead,
what do you do with that? Well, you announce a
rebrand yesterday, which they did, and now instead of fighting
because you know that's violence. Never mind that it's a
sport where three hundred pound men slam into each other

(45:51):
at the speed of cars. Now he's holding the football.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
This is the first time I'm seeing it. I just
reposted it in the show account in Casey on the radio. Yeah, disgusting,
it's so dumb. Hell is this?

Speaker 1 (46:05):
It's well, you don't want I'm fighting because it's a
negative stereotype. I saw some people arguing, do you know
the Irish the only ones who don't care? How many
times on this show we pointed out that it's perfectly
socially acceptable to have a drunk leprechaun as your weather
graphic on Saint Patrick's Day, and they all do it.
But this isn't Patty Wagon, which drives people like Boston

(46:26):
Paul nuts. This is this is the fight, and in
Irish they don't necessarily mean a bar fight or smacking
your woman around. They mean kicking button, taking names. That's
how people saw it. And I know it's a little thing.
It's still you know, still looks like the dude, but
as soon as he doesn't have his fists up, like,
come on into my stadium, I'll kick the crap out
of you. And now he's holding a football, it's it's

(46:49):
app it's it's it betrays your fan base. Maybe not
all of them, but I think enough of them were like,
this is just dumb, and yet it's apparently the week
for that to squander one's brand. So I just didn't
get the memo. But I think Cracker Barrough got the memo.

(47:09):
They lost sixteen percent or no, that was inter day trading,
so they were up. I think they ended up at
twelve percent or something. They lost hundreds of millions of
dollars in market cap yesterday. The value of their company
went down hundreds of millions of dollars. And that doesn't
even account for the hundreds of millions that they spent
on this rebranding effort, because that's real revenue, that's real

(47:32):
capital that was excuse me, capital that was expended so
that they could do these renovations. And I watched the
interview with this delusional CEO. She's like, we went to
our manager's meeting and all the managers are standing, When
am I going to get my restaurant upgraded and updated?
And we did focus group and everybody loves it. I
don't know, doesn't feel like it. I also don't know

(47:54):
that i'd buy the dip at the moment.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Well, I don't think there's any customer I don't wonder
how many customers they talked to that would be like, yeah,
you need to change this, but you know, if you're
I don't. And when it comes to like you know,
your underlings in management, a lot of times you get
a lot of yes people because they're afraid of losing
their job. Man.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yeah, that's a hut. That is a one hundred thousand
percent and it permeates every industry.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
You like to think, Oh, you know, my boss is
you know, you know, he's gonna be confident whatever. Your
boss is a human being and when they're you know,
confronted with somebody that could instantly fire them, a lot
of times they're just going to say yes and go
along with what you want to what you want? What
do you want them to say? That's that's normal human
nature there.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Yeah, I refuse to believe then all of the focus
groups that a representative sample of the folks that I
might I might see eating. Uh, let's say at the
one in Benson, right. And that's the other thing. That's
the other thing too. Your entire strategy has been to
maintain a particular thing and to uh, like, where do

(48:53):
they put where do they put cracker barrels? The only
place they put them? Where do they put they have
one in downtown Raleigh? No, went in downtown Greensborough. No
they don't. That's not their thing. Their thing is I'm
going to be by the highway and some families driving
and they want to eat and they're like, hey, a
Cracker barrel. I know what I'm getting. Well, now you don't,
we'll be back. I mean, you know, we were talking

(49:13):
about the various bud Light campaigns with the frogs and
the lizard, and it was up and and everything else. Uh,
the real man of genius. And somebody said, don't forget
the best, the and and twins and what's crazy sir?
And I'm not correcting you to be a jerk. That
was Coors Light. That was actually a Coors campaign commercial.

(49:36):
But Ross brings up a good point. You thought it was.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, it just shows how powerful the brand was that
when you think of a you know, you think of
that commercial, when you think of the amazing commercial, you
automatically you automatically assume it was a bud Light ad.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Yeah, but yeah, that was that was Cooors. But it
was a good campaign, man. That was good because that's
how they used to sell the beer. So that's number one.
Number two, Why it's a log Oh why do people
care that much? Well, in the case of Cracker Barrel
is more than a logo. However, let's talk about the
Notre dame side of it. Because part of branding properly.

(50:10):
You want people to feel that they not only are customers,
you want them to feel like their family. How many
branding things are associated with making people feel like their family? Right,
like Olive Garden right by the way, I saw you
throw them under the bus yesterday. How's that working out?

(50:30):
Didn't you pimp out? You didn't? You used to have
your Twitch channel pimped out with Olive Garden stuff, and
now you switched it to.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Uh no, no, no, no, it's no completely different. So yeah, no,
we did our own. We've been researching this for a while,
trying to rebrand and change the logo on the Hayes
for share of Twitch channel, and our research team came
out with the logo that we attached yesterday. Are you
saying there's some sort of connection to another company the.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Thing where it all looks like Cracker Barrel branding?

Speaker 10 (50:55):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Is that Cracker Barrel's old logo? Because I was annaware.
I just thought of their team came out been so low.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I understand, Yes, yeah, no, there might be some similarities
there so, but any but anyway, so, but it's more
so the fighting Irish is more accurate because when you
if you can, if you can properly brand and get
a customer where they don't just feel like they're a customer.
And sports teams do a very good job of this,
right the eleventh man or the twelfth man excuse me,

(51:23):
uh in Seattle's case, things like that. That's what you want.
That's the point of marketing. You want people to be
emotionally connected to your to your product. So if somebody's
emotionally connected to something, think of this and your interactions
with your spouse. Let's say that you went and made
a decision about the paint on the outside of the house,
and then your spouse came home. How's that gonna go?

(51:46):
Ross if mark If Marky went to go visit her
family for a week, she came home and you had
painted the entire outside of the house bills, red, white,
and blue. How would that conversation go?

Speaker 6 (51:58):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Probably not? Well, we are going to pay the house,
by the way. So I mean, this is a conversation
we've had, and it's one, like I said, but you're
having together. But say it's a conversation that we've had
because it's very important for both of us.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
We need right, yes, and and I understand that it's
not the same dynamic, but it feels like it feels like,
what's the word I'm looking what's It's just people feel
like you just don't care what they think anymore. And
that's and and while it may not be that serious,

(52:29):
if people have that mental reaction to it, then it
is that serious because now it affects your bottom line.
They don't want to feel betrayed. Nobody wants to feel betrayed,
whether it's your spouse is cheating on you, the ultimate betrayal,
or or they changed your logo in grand scheme of things,
a more minor betrayal, but it betrayal. Nonetheless, they don't

(52:51):
want to feel they're forgotten about it. And then finally,
the last email was I've seen this. A couple of
people say this. They said, really for them, they thought
at the beginning of the in for Cracker Barrel was
when they started serving alcohol. One. I guess I didn't
realize they were serving alcohol because I never really think
to order one there. But more importantly, I at least

(53:11):
understand that because the difference is that that seems like
a call to expand the tent, right, because what they're
looking at is they're looking at the brunch crowd. You
look at the brunch crowd, and you got all these
restaurants like First Watch, they got a bunch of First
Watches around the can remember the chain they got one
in North Hills for other places. You know, again, this

(53:33):
is this is more of the brands, the bigger brands,
the chains, and and so they're looking at it and
they're like, boy, I'd love a piece of that, but
you're not getting necessarily a piece of that. Because on
a Saturday morning, people with you know, in that demographic,
you know, twenty, you know, young twenty somethings, what do
they do? They all go, They all go stand in

(53:54):
line over at one of the brunch joints. They want
to go in. They want to get their big greasy
pile of food. Generally, and by the way, the food
is probably just basically same quality a lot of these
places as it is at Cracker Barrel. And then they
want to see the Bloody Mary menu or they want
to get a mimosa, and they willing to spend a
lot of money. So I understand to some extent chasing that.

(54:17):
But the difference is what Cracker Barrel is doing now
feels like a replacement it's replacement theory. I throw that out.
People feel like you don't want them anymore, you want
this other thing instead of you wanting both of them.
If that makes sense. Okay, that's that's where I'm at,
all right, Lucas, thanks for hanging on. What's up?

Speaker 6 (54:39):
Yeah. Back in the early two thousands at apleassa State,
they brought in a New York advertising company to rebrand
the Mountaineer, which everyone knows that went to State is Joseph.
And they shaved his beard off, took away his corn
cob pipe, and put him in an orange plaid shirt
and they were milk middle of the.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
In the middle of the mountains of western North Carolinas. Genius.

Speaker 6 (55:08):
When they released him to the to the football stadium
full of people, there were so many booze the Alumni
Association with nuts. They had to revert because that is
not what it was supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
All right. So now if they hired me, sir, this
is the direction I would go. Tell me, because you're
an app State fan, it sounds like, tell me what
you think of this? All right, we'll get him his
pipe back, We'll get the old Amish looking beard thing,
and then he's standing on the neck of a Wolverines player.

Speaker 6 (55:41):
I think everyone could agree with that.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
All right, See, we'll say this. I have no connection
to app State. I have a few friends that are alumni.
I've got to Actually, somebody sits on one of the
boards there that I know and he's just a huge fan.
I have no connection, but that is one of my
favorite college football moments. Was you guys going in up
there in Michigan to their own stadium and kicking their

(56:05):
teeth in to start the season. Loved it.

Speaker 6 (56:08):
There are mosaic paintings of all that, and a lot
of the restaurants up in Boom that's great.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Oh I've seen them, man, I love it. I think
it's like it's the ultimate underdog story and it's just
the look. In fact, I watched a recap of that
thing on Twitter because they always posted on football season
and every time they cut to the sidelines, the absolute
bewilderment of the Michigan coaches is like it just adds
to it so that if I was asked to redesign,

(56:34):
I want to mess with your logo. But if they
asked me, that's the direction I would go.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Okay, I don't think I might would I would disagree
with that, thank you, all right, I have a go.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
See this is the thing though, you can do that,
right because you're familiar with the product in the area
and you understand what you're talking about in the history
of the team. But what the problem is with a
lot of these rebrands, and you mentioned before, you know,
it's not that it's women. It's these white women from
liberal New York City or California doing the rebrands that
have no idea what they're talking about.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Yeah, yeah, and to your point too, uh who also
then check it with the people who who who are there,
who are under them, who rely on them, and them
liking them to be there, you know, to have a job. Right,
that's not the right person. It's not the right person
to consult man, not it Sorry sorry, h w C.

(57:24):
All right, what's up.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
This deal about Notre Dame. You know they should have
led in Applets and State or East Carolina because Notre
Dame's contract with NBC Football NBC and Notre Dame all
the millions of dollars they received from winning the championship,

(57:50):
h ACC didn't get a die.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Yeah, that's why Notre Dame has always been this weird thing.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
So yeah, so as far as I'm concerned, you know,
the the Lebrecon could have been wearing a tamp on,
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Well yeah, okay, well again this is the It's not
meant for you, sir, because already you clearly don't like
Notre Dame. So yeah, you want to wocome up. That's
not who it's meant for, sir. It's meant for people
who had a positive respect for it or even yeah,
like they were fighting.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
But did you know that not only the football but
the Notre Dame hockey is not a member of the
Atlantic Coast Conference either.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Yeah, no, it's it's weird because some of their sports
are and some of their sports aren't. And it's yeah
again it's always been, and thanks for the call. Is sure,
it's always been its own strange thing. Uh. And the
other point too, going back to the app State thing,
I don't honestly think you should change your logo there.
But to Ross's point, being able to recognize that if
you want to get an app State fan really excited

(58:55):
and talking his football season, to bring up the Michigan
thing is is the most basic thing that you need
to do to be able to understand emotionally how to
connect with people. Go ahead, talk to an app state person.
Just go, hey, remember that time you guys played Michigan
in the opening season and then your hour the next hour,
you don't have to do anything. Just sit there and

(59:15):
drink your beer. They'll fill the time for you. They'll
fill the time. Raced agic. They just changed the Clemson
logo too, and now it's the panther or something Notre Dame.
I did not so he's not a fighting Irish anymore.
Instead of a little piss up, they just decided fist
down in a football in his hands. And I'm just like,
why is everyone destroying their logos this week? I don't

(59:38):
know what was that cracker barrel did that too?

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Just now?

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Yeah? Yeah, according to the stock market yesterday billion dollars.
But can you imagine Clemson being like, all right, we're
getting rid of the paw and this orange is stupid? Right?
What the fans would do? They lose their crap? They would,
they would. I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:00:01):
I'm a big guy on tradition, and it's like, why
do you want tradition to go away?

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
I don't. I just don't.

Speaker 9 (01:00:09):
Then they say, well, we can start a new tradition. Well, no,
that traditions don't need to be restarted their dame. You've
been building one for fifty years or exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Anyway. All right, So we are on our way out
on Aaron. I guess because I saw that, I guess
you're gonna let people get back coastal tomorrow or something
for later today, maybe in some areas, So moving away.

Speaker 9 (01:00:34):
Two more invest areas in the Atlantic that may become
name storms. But our weather is gonna get real nice
around here starting late in the weekend early next week,
and that northwest flow and the next cold front coming
in going to keep both of those next invest areas
well off. The East coast has some very pleasant air,

(01:00:54):
very cool air. It is going to settle in after
we get through the next couple of days. With some
spotty storms today, especially from the try It and west
into the mountains, little fogg and spots early, otherwise cloud
sunshine and depends on where you are be on either
side of about eighty degrees upper seventies, low eighties tomorrow
and again just hit miss storms around, lots of sun
and cloud otherwise, plenty of dry weather Saturday. Then we

(01:01:14):
get this front to come through Sunday morning, you're gonna
wake up in the fifties in many places. Sunny seventy
five in the afternoon. Yeah, seventy five for a high
Sunday Monday, Tuesday, May, we may not get out of
the seventies, the mid and upper seventies in many places
as the showers thundershowers are for the most part. Oh sorry,

(01:01:36):
I'm sorry, eighty five Monday. Boy, look at me, I'm
actually looking at.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:01:42):
So the showers thundershowers go a way as we go
through the weekend, and then as we get into Monday,
we're still limin eighties. It's Tuesday, Wednesday, we may not
get out of the mid upper seventies to near eighty
degrees with lows in the fifties at night.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
So sorry about that. Had to do a little reset here,
no problem.

Speaker 9 (01:01:56):
Yeah, So today, let's just recap today, partial sun and
temperatures upper seventies, low eighty same thing Tomorrow. I'll be
hitt miss storms around and maybe some leftovers on Sunday
before the front comes through early next week. Next week
is going to be real nice, and we should have
some mild weather Monday before we cool off Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
mostly Sunday. You know that nice deep blue sky you
love to see this time of year. Back is what

(01:02:17):
We are going to have a couple of mornings and
may wake up in the fifties I think, starting Tuesday
morning and Wednesday morning and real nice weather into the afternoon.
So now, hold's true for you know next weekend coming up?
You know, you know it's going to be real nice.
Uh there's some college football this weekend too. Tomorrow tomorrow, yeah, tomorrow.
And by the way, I am not.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Pleased with this. Why not? There is not a there
is zero reason why American college football's first game should
not be played in America.

Speaker 9 (01:02:50):
Oh that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
This, this is this is you want to talk about
violating people's trust. Wait wait, wait where is being playing?

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Oh? So tomorrow is called they're called zero week games.
They're just little samsers. They have four games, all right,
And this is not an insignificant game. Iowa States playing
Kansas State. It's the very first game and it's in Dublin, Ireland. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Oh that's dumb.

Speaker 9 (01:03:12):
Well this goes back to tradition, right, I don't know, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Fine, tradition of playing in Europe.

Speaker 9 (01:03:20):
But no, I'm saying tradition of not. I'd say fine
if you want to be a fan of but yeah,
I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Yeah, and again the zero week thing is is a
more modern thing, right to get a little get people
pumped up. It's kind of like the NFL with the
Hall of Fame paper whatever. That's fine, but no, the
first actual one that counts cannot be outside of the US.
I'm sorry, but anyway, but it is. Allow me to
go old man. We'll get into more of it tomorrow.

(01:03:48):
We'll talk in an hour to you again, Thank you, sir.
I appreciate it. Yeah, Ross, you didn't know that. Can
you imagine the first NFL game? They're like, oh, where
is it? Bolivia? You know how I feel about those
games anyway, Right, but at least those are in the
middle of the season. But the first game come on first.
This is like when Roy Cooper announced his goobernatorial runs
in New York both years. Both times. That felt pretty dirty.

(01:04:13):
Huh right, Ange, your running for governor of New York. Well,
I used to do it in our North Carolina, not
New York. Oh, we're gonna open it in doublin Ireland.
All right, all right, maybe they can play the Migrants.
That'll be fun. So yeah, since then, whereas it I
Idaho State, UNLV, Fresno State, Kansas and Sam Houston and

(01:04:38):
Western Kentucky. Well so they got a couple like games
that might be significant for standings later in the year.
We'll see Friday. It is the final stretch, oh the show,
and it is time to chat with our radio buddy
to the South Pete Calendar Middays WBT and the saddest man.
He doesn't get to go to the Charlotte Hispanic Festival

(01:05:00):
this year because he got canceled. So yeah, m that's weird.

Speaker 10 (01:05:04):
In my defense, in my defense, I have never gone.
This was going to be the year, right, well, I
am very hesitant to be, you know, just appropriating people's culture.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Oh okay, all right, that's so weird because like I'm
eating breakfast to ketos, so I'm all, yeah, no.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
That's that is white supremacy, casey.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
But I ordered them that they sold them to me
at the Mexican restaurant yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
I don't make the roofs. I do not make the roofs.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
I see I see. So the theory was that they
couldn't have the festival because if they did, I should
come arrest everybody. Is that to imply that everyone who
is Hispanic who would partake this in Charlotte is here illegally?
Because I don't believe that. I think you don't believe that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
No, it does sound kind of racist, dude, make that assumption.
So no, I don't make that assumption. Although it is
interesting that the people who claim to be fighting against
the racism and accusing everybody else of being the racists
seemed to say things that are kind of racisty like that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Yeah, that is weird. I did notice that. You know
what else is weird? And how long have you lived
in North Carolina, mister pet because I know you're a
you're a carpetbagger like everybody else on the show, but.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
High ye, well, I mean I fled New York as
soon as I could at age eighteen and went to
South Carolina first. I stayed there until nineteen ninety nine,
and then I moved to North Carolina and have been
in Charlotte or Ashville ever since.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Okay, with that in mind, and it's you know, it's
been in the double digits for both Ross and I.
One of the things that we didn't have access to
where I came from, but then we did have access
when I moved down here, and I was so happy
for it was in fact, and I know, it's the
little things the Cracker Barrel restaurants, right and potato, the

(01:07:09):
potato thing that they have in the morning, like the
potato cast role thing. Oh yeah. But the one thing
that was easy for me, and maybe because we work
in this industry, is to recognize the vibe the audience
so to speak. We use the term audience, but the
customer base there and to understand We strive to understand

(01:07:33):
what motivates people to do what it is that they
do because we swim in the world of advertising and
marketing and it is with that in mind that immediately
you see what Cracker Barrel's doing and you're like, this
is not going to end well, and I'm curious where
you think it comes from. We speculate on a lot
of stuff on the show, and a lot of it

(01:07:56):
I think is an app the inability to apparently consult
anybody who has any sort of emotional connection to the product,
and I think that would be the big driving force
and I think that that has that has been the
same problem you had with bud Light. Most people were
mad about mulvaney, but I think the bigger screw up

(01:08:17):
was your marketing director on a podcast calling your your
customer base a bunch of frat boys and misogynists.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
Not helpful.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Not help So, like you have a brand whose vibe
is Grandma's kitchen, apple latch, the Southern you know a
little bit of Southern this, but but it worked in
the Midwest too. But literally it was where you go
to eat church. If you're not going to Grandma's house
to eat after church, that was it?

Speaker 6 (01:08:43):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
How do you screw this up so badly? How does
this keep happening? So?

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
I think I think that the Cracker Barrel brand is
unique because it is selling nostalgia right, just like you described.
And so when you're going into that kind of a setting,
it's not like you're rebranding or you know, sprucing up,

(01:09:10):
freshening up Taco Bell, which is the that's where the CEO,
I think she came from Taco Bell and was very
successful in revamping the Taco Bell brand and franchise or
redid the stores right, allowed new menu items that were
really successful. So she has she has a string of

(01:09:33):
you know success in her previous stops. I think she
came out of Starbucks as well, during like their boom period.
So she is considered from what I could tell, she's
considered very good in the industry. But I think Cracker
Barrel poses a unique challenge in that, like we said,

(01:09:56):
it's selling this nostalgia and you have a very difficult
time as a marketer trying to freshen up quote unquote
a brand that sells something old, right, And that's why
I like the revamp of the look. You know, you
go into the stores, the Cracker Barrel stores, I don't
I haven't seen anybody talk about any kind of revamp

(01:10:18):
of the store that's in the front, you know, like
you where you walk around and.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Buy all of it. There's less stuff in there, I guess.
I guess they've tried to make it a little more open,
U right. Described So but lit is is it's yeah,
it's still look, it's it's still The whole point of
that is if you show up to most restaurants and
they're like it's going to be forty five minute wait
for bright, you might turn around and go. The whole
point is to make people go forty five minutes. I

(01:10:42):
do that on my head. Let's get some jelly beans
for the kids. It's a smart business model.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
Absolutely right. And so, like I said, I haven't seen it.
I haven't seen anybody really attacking anything regarding the store.
So it makes me think that they're going to leave
that largely intact, because I agree it's a very good
tool to keep people there, as are all the rocking chairs,
you know, that's the iconic part of their brand. As
for the sprucing up on the inside, I know people

(01:11:09):
don't like that esthetic. You know, it's it's they've taken
a lot of the stuff off the walls, a lot
of the the knickknacks and the signs and all of
that stuff, and people are like, oh my gosh, it's
you know, it's so uh, it's just barren.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
It's so lived as house. What was ma have? Right?
All the you go over to Grandma's house, there's a
thousand things you're not supposed to touch from a lifetime
spent collecting, and people connect to them.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
Right, but do they anymore? So? I didn't say it's
the challenge, right but right, But This is the challenge
is that if you have if you have a client
base that is becoming older and older and dying off,
and you've got fewer people that have been to those
types of grandma houses in their own laws vives, do

(01:12:01):
they have that kind of that same kind of a connection.
And you know, then of course you layer in the
costs of redoing stores and all of that, because I
got to tell you, I've seen the I've not been
in a Cracker Barrel that has been renovated, so I
don't know what it actually looks and feels like. I mean,
they kept the wooden tables and the wooden chairs. It's
still got a lot of the wood elements and stuff

(01:12:23):
that's you know, they still have some decorations on the walls,
but not you know, not every square foot covered with something.
I mean, I didn't hate it. If I had never
been to a Cracker Barrel before and I had just
gone in and that was my first experience, It's not
anything that I would have been repulsed by, right, it
would just look like a normal store. And you also

(01:12:43):
got to remember they're competing in a in an environment,
these restaurants. I mean, you're talking like olive Garden, red Lobster.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
First, all right, let's but let's talk about the breakfast
side of this, because I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, so
you have first Watch, you have that chain there, yes, okay, right,
and that's.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
Cleaner, yeah right, and so but my point was that
in these types of restaurants that are sort of casual, uh,
but longer term, like you're sitting at the table, you're
renting the table for a longer period of time because,
like you said, people have built it into their routine.
They're coming in and they're uh after church, and they're
sitting for a longer period of time. So you're not

(01:13:26):
turning tables as quickly as say a First Watch might
be turning them. You're more you're turning them more like
a red lobster or like a dinner's right. So but
the problem there then is that you're you're dealing with uh,
lower turntables, right, and you're dealing with higher pricing, and
so how do you save on costs everywhere else? And

(01:13:49):
how do you how do you make this a more
profitable business because it's the restaurants struggle to clear profits
just always, and that's why they added in the alcohol, uh,
which ago.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Yeah, And let me let me say this because I
think this is the point that I wanted to make.
And I'm curious what you think, because I think it's
a tale of two changes, and I think it goes
to a bigger thing that we talk about in politics
and everything else. Alcohol. While the addition of alcohol may
have rubbed some people the wrong way, some of my
listeners they don't like it. They're not necessarily teetotalers, but
they don't think it. But the difference is I saw

(01:14:25):
the addition of alcohol an attempt to take that giant
slice that you see probably an uptown Charlotte every Sunday
and Sunday morning of twenty somethings who are willing to
spend an ungodly some amount of money for what is
essentially not that great a food but an extensive bloody
mary selection and mimosas, and that's their thing. I want

(01:14:45):
to go and they want to go out and do it.
And so Cracker Barrel wanting a piece of that makes
sense to me because it does also address trying to
train people who are younger to come to your restaurant. So,
and the margins are high, correct, and margins are high
difference is Jetti seeing the logo and then some of
the DEI stuff that's now going to start taking out,
which has already started leaking out. That gets into the

(01:15:08):
idea of replacement theory, right, right, branding standpoint, and now
people don't want to feel they're being replaced. They want
to feel that it's a bigger tent, not one that
they're kind of not welcome in more in more, And
I think that was the mistake that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
They made, right, and so this is right. I think
people will go along with some of those changes, like
the addition of alcohol and stuff, even some menu changes,
as long as it's not radical, you know, so people
will go along with that. Long term customers will go
along with that stuff. But right the layering in then
of the DEI stuff, the trainings and the celebrations, the

(01:15:46):
corporate memos that have gone out that are now being publicized,
it's like, now people start wondering, Okay, do you not
want me as a customer. Now it's like you're actively
trying to repel me because you don't want my business,
and that, you know, people take offense at that as
they should. And I don't know if this if that

(01:16:07):
was the intention. But when you when you take you
know what Uncle Herschel off of the logo and you
you strip it down like that, to me is the
actually more egregious thing that they have done here, which
is the logo is as barren as people are complaining
the interiors are. I don't find the interiors to be
that barren, but the logo, it's it's just nothing like

(01:16:29):
you might as well just say food here, you know,
there's yeah there, it's soulless.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
As somebody pointed out, you got rid of the cracker
and the barrel, right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
Yeah, and then yeah, and they took out old country store, right.
And I'm curious to know if they had done any
kind of market research or focus groups to you know,
connect yeah, connected to that logo, the old logo, Like
does that actually repel people from going in?

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
It just feel it's I don't know, man, something about it.
And maybe it's indescribable because remember her their whole model,
where are cracker barrels always located? I've never seen one,
with the exception I think they have one in the
Mall of America, just because it's the Mall of America
where they're off. They're off an exit, not in the
city center. And and and so you you you have

(01:17:19):
You're from your from the word go. Everything you've done
is to promised a consistent experience so that the screaming
kids in the back will shut up on the road trip,
right or the people. That's what you've done. You've you've
positioned yourself away from everything else to create your own
unique thing. And here you are. I got to pivot
just because we could be on this the whole time.

(01:17:39):
How disappointed were you after yesterday? I was promised that
Donald Trump was going to do a ride along, and
I wanted to see him kick doors yesterday and then
he just went and visited with police because I thought
he was going to and I didn't know. I didn't
understand logistically how he could do a ride along. You've
been on a ride along. I've been on a ride along.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
No, I've not done the right along.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Oh man. Yeah, And I on a I went on
a very dark day. I was riding along with an
officer and we had a young teenage high schooler who
killed somebody drunk and a race. That's what I got
found my ride along. So with that in mind, Donald,
I understand they're not going to take him to the
tough stuff. But he yeah, him in the trash truck

(01:18:20):
and him Jim McDonald's thing worked worked really well where
it didn't work for like Kamala and others. For whatever reason,
I was looking forward to it and he didn't do it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
So you can't you can't do it. I mean there's
you can't do the guy's motorcade.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Let him taste somebody, Let him taste somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:18:39):
All right, Well, then you would have to take him
to some sort of you know, a closed track with
professional drivers or something. You would have to stage something,
and then that would be a whole thing that they
would mock him forth because the guy's motor cad has
like fourteen vehicles in it. You can't run a patrol
of fourteen vehicles. They shut the roads down.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Wait, dude watching him pavement pancakes. Some dude, I would
have been here.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
I don't think. What was it. The Florida Attorney General
was out there busting somebody, taking him into custody. Taking Yeah, yeah,
the truck driver guy. Yeah, you're not going to get
that from the sitting president of the United States. When
I saw that he was doing a ride along, and
then I saw the actual images of him, Like, that's
not a ride along, that's just a that's a motor key,
that's a profession like that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Fives. I don't want to hear.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
It different times. Man, speaking of nostalgia. My goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Yeah, hey, well you know, callbacks or callbacks, what do
you get? What are you going to do? So the
d C Oh, by the way, and actually we just
got two minutes you see there raiding John Bolton's house
this morning.

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
I did see that. I don't know why, but like
the norm of you know, not doing this sort of
thing to former gov CO officials, Uh, that norm is dead.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
So yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
Why people are outraged the people that were saying it
was totally legit to go raid.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
Maar a lago.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
Uh, and now are somehow concerned about this. I don't
know why. You guys said no, one's above the law.
So the law.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
And by the way, apparently there was not a perfectly
placed CNN reporter who just happened to be nearby for this,
so that's you know.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
I wonder if their sources have dried up after all
of the revocations of the top secret clearances.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Yeah, well, John Bolton loves a war and apparently he's
got one, so we'll we'll see more on that. But
all right, Pete, I appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (01:20:39):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
We had one hundred we could have done today, but
we'll try again next week. All right, See you buddy, appreciate.

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
It, see it all right?

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
There you go, Pete Calender joining us here on the
CaCO Day Radio program. Yeah, Ross, all I wanted was
Trump taste somebody. That's it. That's all I wanted in
my life. We'll talk more about it in just a
few minutes here on the CaCO Day Radio program. Here
we go. So a special announcement that will be an
address from the Oval Office at noon today. All right,

(01:21:09):
let's irresponsibly speculate, Ross, aliens or child sex dungeon under
John Bolton's house.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
I'm sorry, you mean the Ambassador's house.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Excuse me, the ambassador's residents whatever, which when you think
it's Bolton as I think it is, and I have
a guess I think it more.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
I mean I would prefer aliens of some sort that'd
be cool before I die, as long as they're peaceful
and they're not going to vaporize us. Right, Probably Bolton
probably Bolton's.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
Probably Bolton, And I honestly, I think here's what I
think is more likely, because it just kind of tracks
with what how I think people would game this out,
I think, and I could be one hundred percent wrong,
but this is one of the scenarios I think could
be likely. Somebody got when that John Bolton had a
bunch of retained top secret documents. I think a lot

(01:22:00):
of these cats do, and they were able to verify
that he's got him in there, so they rated it.
Because of everything that happened with mar Lago and Trump
and everything else, They're like, fine, if this is a problem,
this is a problem, and then that's what it's going
to be. And of course then that you know, MSNBC
and CNN will downplay it, even though it will make

(01:22:22):
them look super hypocritical, and it'll just turn into an
argumentative thing. I mean, I hope it's bigger than that.
It doesn't necessarily have to be Bolton related, you know,
but I could see that as the explanation for the
raid and the press conference, if that makes sense. But
I don't know. Maybe he's nationalizing Cracker Barrel. I don't know.

(01:22:45):
Maybe he will taste somebody he heard the segment and
he's like, that's a good point. There's some poor intern.
It's his first day. Take one for the team, buddy,
so couldn't tell. You don't know what's going on, but
that'll be at noon today, so clearly obviously you know
later when you're listening, I'm sure Bucking Sexton will be
jipping it, so or Buck sex excuse me, Buck and

(01:23:07):
Clay will be jipping it. So stay tuned for all
that fun, all right. I laughed out loud when I
saw this story yesterday. This is from Variety. Disney urgently
seeking more movies for gen Z men, and they are
basically they put out a cattle call for Hollywood creative
types who have concepts and ideas that Disney Studios can

(01:23:32):
then parlay into, you know, attempting to actually capture the
you know, thirteen to twenty eight year old male consumer
because it's it's a huge weak spot for them. So
I have a suggestion, Ross, let's brainstorm. Can we do
this a lot on the air. So I have some suggestions,

(01:23:53):
and I just want to hear what you think. I know,
you're not a thirteen to twenty eight year old man, anymore.
But pretend you be for ten. You're immature for a moment. Okay,
tell me if this should appeal to you. All right,
So I got two ideas. All right, here's the first idea,
and I think Disney if you get these, he's gonna
be slam dunks to appeal to men, uh if handled correctly.
All right. So the first one is a space thing, right,

(01:24:15):
so right, and it's but it's a time of war.
Oh wow, okay, yeah, yeah, it's a time of war.
We got a lot of unique characters. Some of them
are humanoid, some of them are big fat. There's a
big fat guy, really big fat guy, right, and he
likes to like chain women up and freeze dudes in metal.
And then and then there's like another du it's like Bigfoot,
like remember Harry and the Henderson's but like an edge

(01:24:37):
your spaceier star laden version of one of those.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
On So you have space kids love space, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
They do, especially if you remember we're targeting men. We're
targeting young men. Here.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
You got like battles in space, yeah yeah, wars and
stuff yeah among the stars basically yeah. And you said
something about what a like a hot woman or like
a like is she like a princess or something her?

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
She could be a princess, sure absolutely, man and her
brother might try to sleep with her, but don't worry
about it. So like that, And and then they have
the big the big Harry and the Henderson's looking bigfoot dude.
But here's the deal. We don't give him any real lines,
but he emotionally connects with people nonetheless, right, because you

(01:25:21):
know that's what you want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
I mean, I'm not gonna lie. This sounds like a banger.
I think we should at least I mean, if that
script or that property were to come across Disney's desk,
they should actually offer the owner that like billions of
dollars because he is going to be a sure fire away.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
Yeah. Oh I just thought of this too.

Speaker 8 (01:25:38):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Also, have you know what else? Little boys like guns
and stuff, right, except rather than just regular guns, we're
gonna we'll have some of those while like space guns,
you know, pew pew. But what if we have really
really big ass guns like star Killers. Oh that's a
fun name, right, a great name. Or we have or

(01:25:59):
we have a gun that's the size of a planet,
you know, you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
Know what, Like I said, I was believe it or not.
At one point it was I was a teenage boy. Yeah,
swords are pretty cool, like yeah, okay, I like swords,
but lasers are cool metals. And if we combine the
swords with the lasers, yea some sword.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Yes, I love it. So that's that's idea number one.
Idea number two. Are you ready for this?

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
You have more?

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
Oh? Yeah, dude, because you got I want to have
a couple of things, right, the surefire slam dunk ways
to connect the men? All right? So the second one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
Is we have people.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
They look like people, some of them don't, but they
start as people kind of. And then but they can
do stuff other people can't, Like some of them can like.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
They have like abilities or something like what you Yeah, yeah,
they're powerful.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
We'll call them powers. They have powers, but not regular
powers more right, so they're.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Like bigger like like superabilities.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
Super yes, yes, something like that, and they could like
some of them have laser eyes. Some of them their
power is being rich, but it's still cool. So and
and then I.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
Don't know, can any of these people like fly or
anything or like oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
Dude's yeah yeah yeah they can fly. They can't some
of them are actually gods. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
Okay, here's the thing. When you're like a teenage boy,
you know, you're like you wish you were more powerful
than you were. Are they like strong at all? It's
like strong in.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
The Yeah, some of them are so strong it's crazy.
Like some would say they're almost oh piece.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Okay, okay, but are they good or evil?

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Okay? So here's the thing. Some are good, some are evil.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Okay. So there you're establishing a conflict of some sort,
like that's not.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Yeah, yeah, conflict like the war and the other thing. Yeah,
it's very important. So and and and there'll be so
many of them, so many because I want them to
be so many that they can literally make a bunch
of different things, but are all kind of interconnected.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
Yeah, because I was gonna surely these people, these individuals
with the superabilities would never come across each other and
meet each other. So you're saying they're in the same
universe and they can like interact with each other, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Although occasionally there's interventional stuff, but we get to that. Yeah,
they can interact. And then what'll happen is and this
is because you know what's uh oh, and I just
thought of another power that young men like where you
can see through women's clothes. We'll throw that in just
for something to do. But anyway back to this. So
what will happen though, is remember how you said there's
some bad and some good. There'll be a really really

(01:28:30):
bad dude, like really bad. He'll also be kind of
ope like I described a right, and that will require
all the good guys to get together to stop the
bad guy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
That sound like a pretty crazy war, right there. Yeah,
the end all be all of wars. That sounds Yeah,
the endgame is they would chat yea. So once again,
if I was Disney and this property or idea came
across my desk, I would give the owner of that
billions of dollars to right.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Yeah, and then one last idea, Okay, we're gonna take
both properties. This is nuts. And and then we're gonna
make the most important character a woman who has never
done anything to earn it. And and then we're gonna
kill off the people that they like. What do you
think I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
I I was really along for the ride there up
until that last part. Yeah, lost me there.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
Whoops, whoopsie that Disney didn't dude the the concept of
Disney begging for ips that will attract young men after
taking two.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
Of the arguably most legacy three three Indiana Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
Oh that's right. Excuse me, I forgot my other pitch.
All right? Do you like artifacts? Do you hate Nazis? Yeah? Anyway,
so we'll put We'll get a woman to solve that.
So yeah, it's not Look, Disney is always very has
done a very good job of maintaining female audience and
and especially when you get outside just their cartoon products,

(01:29:57):
they've always had a very good job of that. The
what they forg got though, is you have to have
some for the other team. And so the idea that
you're begging for intellectual properties in this variety article and
you like, I don't know if there were bigger ips
you could have destroyed that were slammed dunks. You're the
you're the what's her uh? Who gets all the me
bounds And you're the Angel Reese of studios if she

(01:30:21):
got the ball on the other end of the court,
nobody thought to run over and defend her. You can't
be trusted with ips that because you don't have the
ability to actually produce something that young men want to
gravitate towards So that's why I laughed out loud, you lunatics,
all right, race Agic for the weather tick. He's not

(01:30:43):
a lunatics. No. Disney's like, we need some we need
IP ideas to attract young men. I'm like, you just
took Indiana Jones, Marvel Universe, and Star Wars and it
made them girl boss centric, Like you can't be trusted
with ips to attract young men. Yeah, probably, probably, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:31:02):
I'm in a not much, not much, just looking at
the tropics and thankfully Aaron pulling away and two other
invest areas that most likely stay off the East coast,
compliments of a front that's gonna come through and actually
bring us here a very very pleasant air mass as
we get into early next week, some days not getting

(01:31:22):
out of the seventies, overnight lows getting into the fifties,
and really not much rain around the next few days.
Partial sun today and tomorrow upper seventies to low eighties,
and how spotty showers here and there, especially from the
Triad west into the mountains where they'll be a little upslope,
so a little bit better chance there Sunday, maybe a
couple of showers, thunder, showers still upper seventies to low eighties.
Warmest day this run is gonna be Monday, low to

(01:31:44):
mid eighties and sunny before the front comes through Tuesday. Wednesday,
Thursday will be on either side of eighty, so upper
seventies likely for the Triad near just above eighty for
the Triangle. Overnight lows could get into the fifties, and
it's some of the coolest readings in the mountains. One
of those mornings Tuesday on Wednesday actually see some forties.
So we'll see some real nice weather coming next week.

(01:32:05):
And that trough that's coming in bringing that northwest flow,
we'll keep those two invest areas off the east coast.
That's the way it looks right now, so we may
get through the rest of the month of September, our
rest of the month of August, before we get into
September October, the two busiest months of hurricane season, without
any additional tropical systems threatening the US.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Ray's brain is all in college football right now.

Speaker 9 (01:32:27):
It is that, and I got a head cold, and
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
No I do, dude. I was whatever you're dealing with.
I was dealing with the version of it earlier this week. Yeah,
today you were gone. I did not feel well at all. No,
not good man. Yeah, So have a good weekend bunch.
Just take up back urbine in it. You'll be fine. Yeah,
that's next. Okay, all right, it's bourbon time. Look at that. Yeah, perfect,
all right, thank you sir, appreciate it. Eight forty seven.
Back in just a few now, Jeff Bellinger, what's happening, Good.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Morning, casey.

Speaker 11 (01:32:55):
Stock market futures are higher at the moment now. Jerome
Powell takes the podium at the Federal Reserve Symposium in
Jackson Hole, Wyoming, just over an hour from now. What
he says could set the direction for the rest of
the Friday session on Wall Street. Investors are hoping he'll
at least hint about a September interest rate cut, but
a lot of analysts think he'll remain cautious. This will

(01:33:17):
be Powell's last Jackson Hole speech. A growing number of
postal services around the world are suspending parcel deliveries to
the United States because of confusion over tariffs. The so
called de Minimus exemption for small, low value packages expires
a week from today. Postal services in South Korea, Singapore,
Germany and other nations have paused US deliveries they want

(01:33:40):
more clarity. Cracker Barrel Old Country Store caused a social
media storm this week after it announced a logo change.
The casual dining chain is removing the image of an
old man leaning on a barrel and the words old
Country Store from its logo. Some conservatives took the decision
to remove the man's image as a move by Cracker
Barrel's female CEO to strip the chain of its history

(01:34:03):
and character. Sales of bud Light were down for a
year after the brand angered conservatives in twenty twenty three.
Michael Halen at Bloomberg Intelligence does not think Cracker Barrel
will suffer a similar fate. We'll see apples like the
price of its Apple TV Plus streaming service from ten
dollars to thirteen dollars a month. The price of an

(01:34:24):
annual subscription will remain at ninety nine dollars. Tennis star
Serena Williams signed on with the Telehealth, a telehealth startup ROW.
Williams will be the face of a ROW campaign to
promote weight loss drugs like Wegovi and zupbound. Williams has
used weight loss drug She says they helped her to
shed thirty one pounds, and at first it may seem

(01:34:45):
like an unusual pairing women's where Daily Reports Tractors Supply
will launch a collection of women's apparel designed with cookbook author,
food network host, and sugar beet farmer Molly ya in Casey.
The items will be in stores on Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
Can't wait, I will rush down. Okay, Thank you so much, Jeff,
appreciate it.

Speaker 11 (01:35:05):
Have a great weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
Take care, Yeah you too. There you go, Jeff Bellinger.
All right, I was just I wasn't gonna get to this,
and now I'm just this is we talk about how
the media lies to you when one of them is
through omission. This might be one of the most egregious
examples I have ever heard. Ross. I'm gonna relay this story,
and then when I get to the end, I want
you to tell you there's anything missing, and I promise

(01:35:27):
you I have scanned every version of the story. It
is not in there. All right, So here's the story.
Transgender women say man through beer bottle at them in
Raleigh nightclub assault. All right, two transgender women who go
by poison and lotus Lolita, Okay, I'm sure I don't

(01:35:49):
write out the real names. But anyway, so they were
at Legends Nightclub on Saturday when some sort of altercation happened.
They were walking through the nightclub. They say one patron
grabbed them several times. After they rebuffed the advances, things
got physical and then quote, he threw a beer at us.
That escalated things got physical. There's a little thing of

(01:36:12):
the eye of one of the the quote unquote victims
here because again I don't I don't know if there
was another portion of this altercation. But anyway, and then they,
you know, reported it to the police. I guess they
reported it to the nightclub. Ra El reached out to RPD.
We're told charges are pending. They're working to track down
the individual's assault in the nightclub. Legends Nightclub released to statement.

(01:36:39):
We Legends know about the incident currently under investigation. We
stand with trans Lives Matter, you know, all the corporate
stuff there. But the whole thing is high quote highlights
concerns over safety for the lgbt Q plus community at
nightlife venues. That's the whole story. Do you think, perhaps

(01:37:02):
maybe Ross, do you think there's any context that should
have been included?

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
Yeah, something really jumps out there, right, and it would
be the the sort of bar that legends is Oh no,
it seems to be integral to the story, right, Oh okay,
it's a honky I mean it's a gay bar.

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
Yes it is. Yeah, now that doesn't mean that people. Again,
I don't know what the motivations are, but when you
write the line, it highlights concerns over safety for the
LGBTQ plus community. They're at a gay bar.
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