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November 21, 2024 • 78 mins
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Speaker 4 (01:03):
What's up? Everybody? My Name is Sammy John.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
Tune in every weekday morning at nine am Pacific Standard
time and hear my show called the Bridge, and what
I do every weekday morning is I bring you the
best of South Asian music and culture from around the world,
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(01:28):
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Speaker 6 (01:33):
Number eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four.
It is also and I've done this every day this week,
so I will do it again just so that people
can ignore what I'm telling them and freak out next week.
Ross and I are not here next week full stop,

(01:56):
so you know, sorry, but yeah, we're not gonna be
here next week, which you know we did last year
and I think the year before in all the years,
but that we'll be back the week after we think.

Speaker 7 (02:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
Ross is going to the moon with his family. He's
not going to be available. I'm gonna do a little
little traveling, a little traveling myself.

Speaker 8 (02:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:19):
I actually use the line in h in the meeting
yesterday there was we had like a meeting here and
one of the sees, yeah, I had we had to
get We have a new big uber boss who came
in to greet us and we did a little get
to know yeah, and I was sitting next to a
sales rep and They're like, yeah, what do you need
those scripts? And I'm like, you know, close a business Thursday.
And he's like, so you're Thanksgiving? How I'm like, yeah,

(02:39):
it's like where are you going? I said the moon?

Speaker 6 (02:41):
The moon?

Speaker 9 (02:42):
And he looks at me like what he says, what,
I'm gonna be at the moon, So you better get
those scripts to me, like asap, because.

Speaker 7 (02:48):
Yeah, there's no I don't think we have a studio
on the moon.

Speaker 10 (02:51):
Do we know microphones in the moon?

Speaker 11 (02:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:53):
No, it's a is that a scientific thing?

Speaker 10 (02:57):
It is?

Speaker 7 (02:58):
Yeah, there's no way to check that. How can this
sound carry right?

Speaker 6 (03:02):
Yeah? Yeah, that's a good point, except you know the
moon does have gravity, so there's that.

Speaker 10 (03:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:11):
Well you have to be fair. Ross almost got us
fired when he walked in the room, so I just
want to point that out. We walk in. Nobody's met
this dude. Well I shouldn't say nobody. I'm sure some
of our local bosses had. Nobody's met the new guy.
Ross strolls in wearing his uh, one of his favorite hats,

(03:33):
very nice one.

Speaker 10 (03:34):
That's one of my twenty Bills hats.

Speaker 7 (03:36):
Yeah, yeah, he's wearing a Bill's hat.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
A new guy is from Kansas City, and so the
first thing the guy says to anyone as part of
the meeting is is accused ross of trolling him.

Speaker 10 (03:51):
Are you really from New York?

Speaker 9 (03:52):
I'm like, Essa, am go Bill's We had a good
conversation after the meeting for like fifteen twenty minutes.

Speaker 10 (03:57):
No, no, no, it was just about football. It's nice.

Speaker 6 (04:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's good.

Speaker 7 (04:03):
So that's why I'm like, we should be here after Thanksgiving.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
But like, what if you misread how it went and
he's just like, oo, we'll not have Bills fans around here.

Speaker 7 (04:13):
I mean, I'm just happy. I'm a Vikings fan.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
All right. So, uh, coming up on the Old Show today,
we got some great audio. I'm going to get into that.
I don't want to alarm you. I don't want to
alarm you. But something else looks like it has happened
in the Russia Ukraine thing that some people might be

(04:38):
a little.

Speaker 7 (04:38):
Concerned about, because remember, up to this point, what did
we learn.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
We learned the Biden administration told Ukraine, hey, those long
range missiles we got you. The ones where we're like,
but don't shoot them into Russia interior. Yeah, if you
want to do that, that's fine, go ahead, bro, And
they did. We also gave them a crap ton of
apparently of anti personnel minds, so that's you know, those

(05:06):
are not horrendous. For many times, years and decades to come,
people still get killed with minds in parts of this
world from long time ago, which does speak to the
engineering of the device, but also is pretty horrendous.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
So yeah, we did that, and then.

Speaker 6 (05:30):
Yesterday this and I would say this is mostly confirmed,
but not one hundred percent like everyone, even intelligence officials,
seem to think it's a it's a certain thing. I'm
pointing this out because it's Russia's never used an ICBM

(05:56):
in a battle. They have a lot of them, right,
This is essentially what you're talking about when you're getting
into when you know, when you're getting into the old
arms race of the sixties, the seventies, eighties, even fifties
for that matter. So yeah, yeah, so they went ahead

(06:21):
and hold on, let me just let me just go
ahead and read this bad boy, which is obviously not
a problem at all. Oh where did I But well, anyway,
so yeah, so they are. They are saying that this
this missile that came into was fired into the Ukraine.

(06:42):
Here we go, Russia's allegedly launched an ICBM. Though it
does look like the missile had a conventional warhead. What
it looks like is it had a warhead that at
a certain altitude, as a lot of these missiles do,
then broke into I think six or eight, which I
think is part of the pattern is why they're able
to tell what this thing was. And an ICBM is

(07:04):
a payload issue obviously, so they wanted to get a
lot there and clearly, clearly if you look at the
footage there it was. It was. It was successful in
decimating literally like six blocks of and I don't even
know what they It says there were some factories there.
I don't know the totality of what they were trying

(07:25):
to stray. I'm going to try to pronounce the name. Okay,
then props no d n E prop E t r
O vs nit prop tesk. I don't know the prop desk.
We'll go with the prop desk. In fact, officials say,

(07:46):
not only did they have the one capture where you
can see the six different parts of the missile blow
up in total, they think that there were four missiles,
four warheads, four separate icy so every day just a
nice escalation there, which will be the next guy's problem,

(08:11):
if you know, if if they haven't decimated one side
or the other by then, But you know the idea,
You remember when Trump said he'd have this solved in
a week, already said he'd have is solved in a week.
Am I crazy? Ross?

Speaker 7 (08:27):
Tell me?

Speaker 6 (08:27):
If I'm crazy, you need to be committed, because if
I am, then I guess maybe we go home, right,
Tell me if I'm crazy?

Speaker 7 (08:33):
Do you think there are people.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
In the power the wholes of powers, you know, really
the people actually running the government, let's be honest, not
Joe Biden. Do you think there are people who saw
what happened in that election realize not only is their
their job gone here very shortly, but likely they've done

(08:58):
enough sketchy stuff that they could find themselves with the
DOJ crawling up there behind. Do you think there are
people petty enough to go well, the win I won't
give him is to be able to go in and
quell this thing. So we're going to escalate it, so
we can't I know, completely. Okay, I'm not crazy. Okay,

(09:19):
sometimes you just got to say this stuff out loud,
not just yourself, but with other people around, Like, are.

Speaker 7 (09:25):
There people that are so callous.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
That they would do something to win a political argument
that would take the lives potentially of so many people.

Speaker 9 (09:35):
I mean, it goes pretty deep. It could go deeper too,
because there's lots of people that have speculated for a
while that there's a lot of corruption going on in Ukraine.

Speaker 7 (09:42):
Well there is.

Speaker 6 (09:43):
Well I don't even have to speculate. There is a
lot of corruption in Ukraine. That's a fact as we
observe it here in the United States. And that is
the position of the federal government. I know they want
to pretend that it's not right.

Speaker 9 (09:54):
So the longer they can make this thing go on,
and if they can escalate it, it's a way of
hiding their corruption.

Speaker 6 (09:59):
It's corruption there are you know, it's very strategic. If
you've ever seen why where exactly Putin is trying to
capture parts of Ukraine. If you put up a map
of the disputed areas basically for the purpose of this,
and then you put up a map of naturally occurring

(10:22):
deposits of natural gas and some oil they mirror exactly.
And if you put up the pipeline through Ukraine, that's
in there too.

Speaker 7 (10:36):
So this is for Putin. This is a monetary thing.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
He doesn't give a crap about people who consider themselves
primarily Russian that live in the Dawn whatever region. If
you look at that map, he is strategically targeting that
pipeline and all of those deposits, which essentially are in
like ninety five percent of Ukraine's deposits, and they have
a lot of them, which is why you have American

(11:03):
oil companies tripping over themselves to do these contracts.

Speaker 11 (11:07):
Right.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
They have bp Xon, exon Mobile. I'm trying to think
of who are the other big international play. But the
point is these big companies, they all have contracts that
are currently on hold to extract this stuff. Because Ukraine
doesn't even extract it itself per se. They let these

(11:28):
big companies come in and do it, and then they
just take the money. That's what Putin's going after because
he needs the money and that's the easiest money out
there for him.

Speaker 10 (11:36):
Right now.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
There is there are more natural gas deposits in Ukraine
than I think anywhere in Russia.

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that includes some of the most exclusive access to the

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Is in a single geographic area because there's a largely big, old,
untapped part of it. That's what he's targeting, so everyone
knows what's up. So yeah, it could be the I
don't I got made to look stupid and I might
lose my job and my freedom. So f all these
people attitude, and then there's just pure greed, which as

(15:09):
we know is a great motivator for things like this.
But then but somebody, you know, somebody here had to
be like, yeah, no, you want some mind. Sure, yeah,
you want to shoot ICBMs yourself into Russia or other
long range missile devices. Sure yeah, I'll go ahead, man, absolutely.
But I just wonder if for some people the motivation

(15:30):
isn't one of money, promise power, but rather just screwing
over the other dude because you're petty, and you know what,
I don't think I'm crazy and speculating that that that
could be a motivator, because I have not seen a
good argument for saying you should do that that I've read,

(15:53):
and I've read several pieces from all over the spectrum.
I wanted the New York Times to convince me. I
want wanted USA Today to convince me. I wanted anybody
some of these substack guys who writes these big, long
articles and and one most of them can't believe it.
And then even the ones like New York Times were
cool with it, they don't. They don't explain why. So

(16:16):
then I wake up and they're they're slinging ICBMs at
each other. This seems like the thing that for decades
in this country was our single greatest fear, to the
point where school you had to inundate children with videos
saying that if you get under your desk, you won't
get superpowers or you know, die in a Hiroshima shadow

(16:41):
like and and and then people built bunkers. I wasn't
alive long enough. I haven't been alive long enough to
truly appreciate it. I mean, we're the Berlin Wall coming
down is like an early childhood memory for me. Right,
So what you guys were hyped up on, especially in
the sixties for some of some of our older listeners,

(17:03):
like I can't imagine what that was like. But it
went on for decades. It went on for decades. And
the thing that we were trying oh wait, hold on now,
I got military missile guys trying to correct me here. Well,
just to be clear, I'm reporting ICBM because that's what

(17:25):
there is. So it's SRBM. So it's a heavy payload,
but it's it can't shoot the other side of the world.
Oh okay, and they can carry up to ten warheads.
Yeah yeah, Well, whatever it was, it looked like there
were six six to eight individual you know, explosions when
this thing hit, so yeah, okay, but that's still pretty

(17:49):
That is an escalation right there, regardless.

Speaker 7 (17:54):
So you have more acronyms in the military.

Speaker 6 (17:59):
You guys need to just chill pill man or CP
you could, although I think that's another acronym and you
shouldn't do that.

Speaker 7 (18:06):
Six twenty hang on Ross is like, oh, my house
tried to blow.

Speaker 10 (18:10):
Away, dude. It came out of nowhere less night. It
was like super windy.

Speaker 6 (18:13):
Ray mentioned it on the I do remember Ray mentioning.

Speaker 9 (18:15):
This this stuff, yeah, out of nowhere, and they like
it would come and go. It's like a mini hurricane.
It was super weird. And the entire time I'm thinking
about like people living in tents in western North Carolina, right.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
Yeah, that's why. That's what That's why we had the
conversation with Ray because he's like snow and wind advisor.
I'm like, dear God, you do ever do you ever
do a lot of camp in the Ross?

Speaker 10 (18:36):
I did grown up? Yes, do you ever?

Speaker 7 (18:38):
Do you ever had your tent the wind take your
try to take your tent.

Speaker 10 (18:41):
We're just because it was like the middle of the summer.
It was hot and asy and growth.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
Okay, yeah, well sometimes it gets winding in the summer too.
Like I had a tent I was in we were
a hunt This was a hunting camp for Elk and
it's an outfitters tent. So those are the the white
canvas where you use the actual logs h for for
the support. So it's pretty significant sized tent. Like there's
four guy, there's you know, there's four bunks in there,
a cook stove, a dining table, some some random chairs.

(19:07):
There's a lot of room in there. And uh, well
we got some wind. This was near Crestedbue, Colorado, up
in Black Canyon, which is world class. Oh kind of
beautiful place. And in the middle of the night, man
four dudes trying to keep that tent from making its
way literally down where this cliff is and down this

(19:30):
hill and there's a cliff and then goes down to
the water there and like pick up the cook stove
and all of that, and uh, we were just up
and it absolutely decimated a bunch of supplies that we
had too, and we did not see it.

Speaker 7 (19:43):
And that's a strong tent. The way that we had
that tethered down.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
The video that I'm seeing the people in Swana nooah,
are six Steak Coleman six Steak Coleman tents and stuff
they're sleeping in. I mentioned coming up at eight o five.
Now normally we chat with Stephen.

Speaker 7 (19:59):
Kent on four.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
Fortunately he had a he had a thing, he had
a conflict, had something come up. So never fear. We
we decided so we we uh reach out to If
you're on Twitter, you've probably seen her stuff, Cassie Clark,
who I think is doing probably one of the best
jobs in staying on what's going on in western North

(20:24):
Carolina and bringing video and she's made inroads with local officials,
so you know, you're getting this straight dope, so to speak,
on a lot of this stuff. And yesterday I'm scrolling
through Twitter and I see a post she made talking
about how uh there you know, there's people obviously sleeping
intense We've we've, we've we keep bringing this up and

(20:47):
we will keep bringing this up. And there are people
in communities. Eight weeks later, was still no access to
proper groundwater water that you can you know, get near
your mouth, so to speak.

Speaker 15 (20:58):
And and one of the questions a lot of people ask
myself included is do you remember the fields of FEMA
trailers after Katrina, and remember it turned into such a
problem that even years later, there were still people living.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
In them and they were have and they're like, we
need you to move out of the FEMA trailer. These
are temporary, you can't and turn into a whole legal fight,
and then they were picking on the poor and stuff,
and everyone was absolutely outraged that even that long after,
they would dare have the audacity to deny individuals FEMA trailers,
And of course it was turned into a left right

(21:35):
issue when in reality it's like, no, those are temporary trailers.
And on the other side, they're like, yeah, but we
don't need them right now, so let people live in them.
And most normal people were kind of got both sides
of that, but also we're like, but everyone else was
able to help and get it together, so maybe it's better.

Speaker 7 (21:51):
And then when they got in there, a bunch of them.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
Were absolutely destroyed, and it was it was like a
continuous episode of hoarders going on, right, So I remember
and others were like, don't we have those I mean,
not the really gross ones, but we have the other ones, right,
just literally anything that can provide a certain level of

(22:14):
first world accommodation, especially when you're running around telling families
that if they don't find themselves in a situation where
they meet minimum requirements things like access to hot water.
You know, occupancy without access to hot water, I believe
is illegal in a hotel setting. I don't know how

(22:35):
it works in a setting like this, like if a
hotel doesn't have access to hot water. And I did
not know this until me and the boys booked us
a fun little drum run fishing trip to Hatteras.

Speaker 7 (22:48):
And for those of you've ever fished when.

Speaker 6 (22:49):
The drummer running there, it's where my private island is
just over there that the state tried to claim amazing
fishing and crazy. It's a crazy fishing experience because there's
on this peninsula, there's like one hundred people wading in
the water, and if some dude gets a drum, you
reel it in, but then he walked back away and
you have to watch because like drum on hooks are

(23:11):
going by your feet. Man. But there's a hotel there,
which we had, you know, we booked like I think
there was eight of us.

Speaker 7 (23:19):
We had like eight you know, eight rooms or.

Speaker 6 (23:21):
Whatever, and uh, well, we showed up like the person
whran it was like, I'm very sorry, I can't check
you in. Our our hot water system failed and they
and they found us another accommodation. They even bought us dinner,
which they didn't have to. I mean, just super nice people,
but they're like, we can't. So I don't know how
it works. But when you're threatening to take people's kids

(23:42):
and I find out looking at Cassie's post yesterday that
there are FEMA trailers just chilling in Hickory with no
timeline to get them up there, I could get every
one of those trailers hold right now if I asked
Russ do you believe that? Do you think if we
asked our audience, who's got a truck two inch and
maybe a half ton suspension minimum, that we could get

(24:03):
those trailers holed up and it would cost FEMA nothing.
We could do what you do it in five seconds?
Why aren't you tapping me? Well, we'll we'll, we'll get
them holed up there. That would be no. You tell
us where they need to go. And this weekend, even
though people are preparing to go be with their families
for Thanksgiving, getting that last little bit of work done.

(24:25):
People of North Carolina would take the time out of
their life, the money out of their own pocket for
the fuel in many cases, and haul these wherever you
want in western North Carolina. So don't give me this.
Oh there's no timeline. We don't know what we're gonna do.
That's why we're gonna talk to Cassie. I want to
know how many are there and if the gate's locked. Okay,

(24:47):
don't steal them. But this is absurd. This is absurd,
and it's fixable. It's immediately fixable. I was texting. I
was texting with the buddy of mine who lives on
the coast. He lives on the coast, like five minutes
north of the South Carolina border. That guy would drive up,
he said, I'll drive up. He goes all one to

(25:09):
ash County if you want, pointing to literally like as
far away as he could possibly be.

Speaker 12 (25:15):
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Speaker 4 (25:22):
There's something for them this year too.

Speaker 12 (25:24):
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more than sixty seasonal and classic cocktails each and out
of thirty seconds at the push of a button, and
right now, Bartisian is having a huge sight wide sale.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
You can get one hundred dollars off any cocktail maker
or cocktail maker.

Speaker 12 (25:41):
Bundle when you spend four hundred dollars or more so,
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Speaker 4 (26:00):
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Speaker 1 (26:17):
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a year, what could you get at the end A
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get a year of the best reporting from all over
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four right now You'll get a Washington Post subscription for
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(26:39):
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(27:08):
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And that dude has a very professional job.

Speaker 6 (28:24):
He's a doctor. It's not Campbell, it's another guy, but
I met him through Campbell. He I mean, he'll pause
his practice for a day to do it. So I
want to find out what's up here. And we need
to figure out how we get this solved. Because, just
as Ross pointed out, and you probably experienced everyone in

(28:44):
North Carolina experience yesterday that wind. If you think your
house is going to go, now, imagine you're in polypropylene.
Those are your walls and us maybe not solutions for everybody,
but solutions for some people, which every little bit helps

(29:06):
is a start. Sit there, just hanging out and to
our governor and lute, how do you not go? Why
the hell do we have these trailers sitting in one
of our cities and we can't get them Hickory, you're
halfway there. You can't get them up to people. The

(29:30):
absolute absurdity. No comment on the Femis stuff. I will
never forgive these two. I'm gonna have beef. I've had
beef with Roy Cooper over stuff, and I'm fine with
it being idological. And Josh Stein with his silver spoon
and his smirk and his bad attitude and his handshake. Ross,
did you see his handshake? Did you see Josh Stein's handshake? Duh,

(29:52):
I'm sorry handshakes.

Speaker 9 (29:55):
I'm gonna say it's probably because the other dude was
so strong.

Speaker 7 (29:59):
Did you see that?

Speaker 11 (30:00):
Though?

Speaker 6 (30:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (30:00):
I did see it.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
Yes, you think that. You think the reason that his
wrist is turned upward like that, as though he's a
king asking for his ring to get home.

Speaker 9 (30:08):
I'm gonna give him the benefit of the down. I
think the guy's hand he was shaking was probably like
an X man or something. It's like a mute and
it's super strong, and boom almost broke his wrist.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
Because okay, it's not just because Josh Stein has one
of the weakest handshakes I've ever seen in my life.
It's not that okay, all right, I was I was confused.
Ross sent me straight here. So, yeah, we have all
those beefs. If you just get those trailers hold and
speak up, I'll I won't yell at you for a week.

(30:38):
How's that like? I will trade the integrity of my
story selection if it means they get help.

Speaker 7 (30:45):
I'll still do stories, but I won't.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
Yeah, I'll let the audience do it. How about it, guys,
How come on, come al Roy? These are your people, Josh,
these are your people. You guys trade so heavily on
your North Carolina heritage, which is great, that's fine, And
yet you've chosen to side with the federal government when

(31:10):
there's clearly issues here. So that conversation coming up at
eight oh five, and it just makes me angry. And
it makes me angry because it's so easy that one thing,
not the totality of it, but the one thing is
so easily solvable. Because when you let government solve it,
they come up with stuff. Did you know, do you

(31:31):
guys know what's happening in California right now? With business taxes,
business payroll taxes. Oh, if you haven't seen this, it's crazy,
and frankly it's important. I know you say, well, it's
in California. No, this is important because if this is
in fact how this works, North Carolina could have this

(31:53):
happen to it, and it would take politicians like Josh Stein.

Speaker 7 (32:01):
To justify and do something like this.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
Of course you need the legislature too, and he doesn't
have that, not yet. But this is terrifying, and I
want any of you who work at a small or
work at you don't want any of you. This should
offend any of you. People are sending me pictures of
the trailers. Now there's also an add there's acres acres

(32:29):
of FEMA trailers between Thomasville and Denton on Highway one
oh nine. I could get them all hold this weekend.
I know the one lady can't call me anymore because
they fired her ass yesterday. And that's good. Somebody actually
was held accountable for not knowing how to do their
damn job. Okay, so whoever's making a call now text me.

(32:51):
I will use this radio platform and every minute of
my almost every minute. You know, we got spots and
we got to stay in business. But I will use
my platform across two of the three major metros in
this state. A company signals covering five six million people.

(33:13):
I don't even know what the full footprint is of
our signals. And I tell you what, I could get
every one of those trailers hauled this weekend. Let's do it.
Let's public public private partnership this. And you know what
I bet if I call our buddy Pete down in
Charlotte and our buddy Mark out there in Asheville to

(33:34):
the he's more on the receiving end. Mark's the morning
guy on the Asheville station. Pete obviously we chat with Friday,
there's Middays on BT. I think between the three of us,
we can get every one of those things repositioned this weekend.
And I think also there'd be businesses stepping up to
cover fuel and food and all of that, because this

(33:56):
is something that is tangible that people can get behind. Now,
if you want to tell me those trailers are not
the reason they're not out there is because they're not functional.
There's right, there's they've been stripped out or something in there. Well,
then why aren't there people out there working on them
because it seems like the shortest route to getting one
rather than just building new ones.

Speaker 7 (34:17):
We'll get into that.

Speaker 6 (34:18):
But when we return, what's happening in California, Why it's happening,
which is an important component. And also we'll find out
who was responsible for the murder of Lake and Riley.
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, So all that more coming up
CaCO Day Radio program. Ross. I think I've already secured

(34:41):
forty trucks, and that's probably a light estimate. So what
are we doing, people?

Speaker 7 (34:50):
What are we doing?

Speaker 6 (34:52):
This is easy, this is an easy win. Let's go ahead.
Let's go ahead and get this man. Let me get
let me get Jason on here. Jason, what's up?

Speaker 8 (35:02):
Hey? If you're serious about this, I can probably get
you about thirty trucks if you give me enough head.

Speaker 6 (35:09):
If female are for the state government were to actually
say we if we give volunteers for this, and we
can go ahead and haul them, and they would allow
us to do that with stuff we already own. I'm
deadly serious, sir. I will spend I will spend whatever
it takes in invaluable radio time not covering their own

(35:30):
scandalous behavior, because this is our priority and yeah, so
they won't.

Speaker 8 (35:35):
I'll leave my number with Ross. And if you're serious,
and I'm off next week and you have at least
definitely one pickup truck round the clock from Monday through Wednesday,
if you're serious.

Speaker 6 (35:48):
Well I appreciate I've got clear. Yeah, Jason, I want
to be clear. I'm serious. But the hurdle here is
not whether we could do I think we could do it,
as evidence by your calling all the emails. I'm getting easy.
This would be easy, right, But it's the it's the
bureau the bureaucratic side of this. So I'm putting it

(36:10):
out into the universe that I will personally sit here.

Speaker 7 (36:15):
And and uh and and.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
Use this radio time to get the people to get
the equipment to do whatever we can do if the
bureaucracy side will cooperate.

Speaker 7 (36:26):
So I want it out there.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
And if you encounter anyone who has any sway over this,
you tell them that the crazy dude on the radio
said they'll haul it tomorrow for you.

Speaker 16 (36:35):
All right, Okay, a quick question.

Speaker 8 (36:38):
So, uh, Now, I've heard reports that people have brought
tony houses to those people and they're telling them they're
not zoned for that area, and they're not letting them bring.

Speaker 6 (36:52):
Again. I've heard a lot of things. That's one of
the reasons I want to talk to Cassie today. There
was if you you've been were you what was less
time you were in Ashville before the storm went through, sir.

Speaker 8 (37:03):
Ah, we were there two weeks before.

Speaker 6 (37:05):
Okay, you know on the right, on the other side
of the river, we're going over to East Asheville. They
have that there's that whole neighborhood that's tiny houses right there.

Speaker 7 (37:13):
I guess that was absolutely devastated.

Speaker 6 (37:16):
So I did see a report where they were replacing those,
but I don't know about the zoning in other areas,
some of the thinking that's been done in the upper
echelons of emergency response. So I got this email, and
this is good. This is really good because I want
you to know. This is something I considered before just
spouting off on the radio, which is not my usual

(37:37):
m I usually just say stuff and then deal with it.
But I've given this a lot of thought. When I
was looking at this trailer thing. Again, I need to
know what's going on there. But somebody wrote and they're
absolutely correct, and I'm gonna solve I'm going to solve
the problem within ten seconds after and then I'll finish
the California story because it's crazy. He said, Well, I

(37:58):
agree with you. Let me give you some background. All
those trailers will have to be set up on a
non flood plane with water sewer and power. This will
require flat land with the lease and those other items
in place. You're absolutely right, sir, which is why it's
already there. All of this already exists flat land, non

(38:22):
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Empower hookups.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
Do you know how I know this because I've been
camping before in the Pisca National Forest and in other
places of North Carolina where the you don't even have
to lease it from a private individual.

Speaker 7 (41:43):
Do you know how many r.

Speaker 6 (41:45):
V hookup sites currently exist in places like Julian Price.
In places as you get down much further south, especially
in and around Swannanoah, around the Lake Lure area, these exist.
These are RV campsites at National Forest campsites, campsites on
the Blue Ridge Parkway with RV hookups.

Speaker 7 (42:07):
They have a series of road stuff.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
How do I know this because while I'm not an
RV camper, I know some guys who went out and
blew a lot of money, like stupid rock star money,
uh on, some crazy campers man, And this is what
they do. They go, they'll, they'll they'll bank up someplace.
And that's not even counting the KOA stuff. Right when
you get into the private campgrounds where I'm sure you

(42:30):
can negotiate something. So these are flat parcels by design,
flat parcels by design, which in many cases not look
not all campsites have them, but if you go to
a campground I think in price they have what twenty
five seventeen As you get down by Little Switzerland there

(42:50):
because I've tent camped in those. How many RV hookups
are on Mount Mitchell in that lower lot just before
you get up to the top with the rest and everything,
That whole lower lot is r V stuff too. Well,
they have a tent, they have a tech camp areas
the highest up, then they have RV's you get a
little down there, these have the infrastructure and hookups. These

(43:11):
are by design flat parcels of land because that is
what is demanded by r V people. Now does it
crimp RV people being able to maybe access some of
these right now? Yes, But you're telling me on land
you own that is already graded, that has the service
that is required. Here and FEMA trailers are twenty five

(43:34):
feet or forty feet. They have some bigger ones that
are meant not for living but for rather offices and working,
you know, like disaster work stuff. So we're not talking
about those. They're forty feet and twenty five feet. Why
is that important because forty feet is generally the max
length or it's slightly more, but it's you can use

(43:56):
you go forty and a half feet for some reason
on these that you can put on these parcels, these
RV hookups. You don't believe me. Go on to the
there's there's a website. There's tons of them, but just
type camp RV camping Pisca National Forest and you'll get
slammed in the face. You go to places like Outdoorsy,

(44:17):
which is it's like a hotels dot Com for URV stay.
You search all this stuff where you can go to
the state website where you go to like reserve campsites,
like if you're going to Price, if you're going to
any of the other places. So I have thought about this,
and you're absolutely right, and this is it's so great
that we essentially have a solution right here.

Speaker 7 (44:40):
We've done the work. We did the heavy lift.

Speaker 6 (44:42):
Go throw a trailer on there. Is it going to
be one minute from the person's former where their residence was?

Speaker 7 (44:48):
No? Probably not.

Speaker 6 (44:50):
Most people don't live a mile from the campground, but
it'll be close. It'll be held a lot closer in
the Greensboro facility, which, by the way, why isn't that
filling up with people. I understand the frustration of giving
people vouchers for hotels that are sometimes two hours away.
I get it. But there with that many people displaced
and that that many problems out there, they just may

(45:12):
not exist. Plus, FEMA basically has the whole Cherokee Casino,
so I can't go there. This is I'm telling you.
I need to hear a logical objection to what's going on,
and it may exist. I hold that out, but if not,
let us help, let us help you. Let's do this.

(45:37):
And if it means that I can't go camping up
at Price this year, because there's still people staying up there,
and they're on the Lakeside site, which isn't the RV,
that's a tent site. So maybe I'd be okay, that's
fine because I'm human and I'm like those people have
a home.

Speaker 7 (45:51):
I just want to go catch some fish for the weekend.

Speaker 6 (45:54):
This is easy stuff, Michael, what's up.

Speaker 8 (45:59):
I used to work for FEMA.

Speaker 11 (46:00):
I'm retired Navy guy, and it's not hard to get
into a job like FEMA and work your way up
when you're military. You know, we're talking federal people. There's
good people on FEMA, but I started off as a courier.
I did eliminated damage assessments. Katrina was when I really

(46:23):
got my feet wet, and I just moved up the
totem pole and out in the field.

Speaker 8 (46:29):
I was fine.

Speaker 11 (46:29):
But the better I did, the more I did, the
more qualifications I got. They moved me into the management position.
So I was a housing chief and I did the
staging for the FEMA trailers for the mobile homes, and
I had to quit.

Speaker 6 (46:48):
I wouldn't well before you tell us, because you get
how it turned out. I'm just curious. Is it sounds
so crazy that you would take an exempting an existing
level campsite with sewer, water and electrical hookups and propose
putting a trailer that fits the dimensions of the plot
and doing so in an emergency fashion. Like does that

(47:10):
sound that crazy, sir? Because it doesn't sound crazy to me.
It sounds like a logical way to take advantage of
our resources.

Speaker 11 (47:18):
It's not crazy. That's one of the things I did.
I was in construction until I got put out of
business by the illegals up in West Jefferson, and so
that was one of the things I did. And we
would make what they call the FEMA sites. But you
could get a location, put a bunch of trailers out there,

(47:41):
but the THEMA people go out do their inspection. You've
got to be able to put in a sewer system.
You've got to be able to get the power. You know,
It's like the two main things.

Speaker 6 (47:50):
That's why I'm going to So it's all there. I'm
going campus. It's already existing, yes, And.

Speaker 11 (47:56):
We used to use local contractors. After Katrina it went
to maybe six contractors throughout the United States. And the
Katrina disaster was when it transitioned because we couldn't figure out,
why can't we get these local guys to move these trailers.

(48:18):
We had to wait two weeks for people get mobilized,
and we were the ones that were doing this and
we didn't even know because we hadn't been informed. Well,
we don't use local contractors anymore. I did a tornado
down in Florida and the district person running the Joint
field office, I was not a fan of his, and

(48:41):
I told him, don't go on the news, And it
was the exact same thing. Why are we waiting? Why
are we waiting? And he said I will get when
I'm the news and told them. I'll have enough contractors
in here Holland trailers in two days. We'll get it done.
I told him not to do it, it probably loses

(49:02):
his job. Well, government people never lose their job no
matter what they do. And sure enough they sent another
manager down and swamped them out. And wanted to know
why he made that comment on TV, and it was
because we've gone from local people that can do exactly

(49:22):
what you're saying. We went from that. And when I
became a contracting officer and they want to move me
to DC, that's what I got out. I said, I
can't stand this. This whole FEMA is a taxpayer rip off.
It's not tuitional. It's a eighty twenty eighty percent of

(49:43):
the people are leeches. Twenty percent of the people are
people like me that get into it.

Speaker 8 (49:49):
They want to do good, they want.

Speaker 16 (49:50):
To save the tax dollars, and it ain't happening. They
got six.

Speaker 11 (49:54):
Contractors that nobody can compete with.

Speaker 7 (49:58):
What absolute lenescy.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
While I could go down to the little brown jug
and Joco and talk twenty people into helping assault trailers
in five minutes, I.

Speaker 11 (50:08):
Mean exactly exactly. And what they will do is these
six contractors who are so big. We're talking, can you
mobilize like a situation like Katrina. You know, we're talking
to big ones. Can you mobilize people in forty eight hours?

(50:30):
Well they say they can, but they can't. And what
they're doing is they're gonna call They've got people set
up in different regions and they call them and say,
get the local contractors together, and we're gonna start doing this.
So see it went from the local anyhow, that's who
They're gonna be nied for a lot of things. But

(50:51):
it's got to go through the government. And I mean
it's nuts. I couldn't stand it. I said, I'm done.
I'm not going to be a part of the problem.
I couldn't sleep at night and I was making money
hand over fists. And that's why these people don't quit.
It's too good of it's a gravy train and and

(51:13):
I mean.

Speaker 7 (51:13):
They don't have that.

Speaker 11 (51:15):
For them.

Speaker 7 (51:16):
Yeah, they don't have to quit, sir.

Speaker 6 (51:17):
We can fire them if if we had any stones
about us, like we just fired the woman in charge
of the hurricane Matthew stuff here in North Carolina. You
know why, because they're still they.

Speaker 7 (51:27):
Haven't done stuff.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
A bunch of stuff. Right, So, how hopeful tent? How
helpful can you be living in a tent watching that
they just had to finally fire this woman in charge
of Matthew, of Matthew Hurricane Matthew Relief.

Speaker 11 (51:48):
Nowhere else.

Speaker 6 (51:49):
Yeah, and I'm sorry, I'm not paying God bless you
for one to do that.

Speaker 11 (51:53):
I understand.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
And and and then people within FEMA, and I have
I have interviewed people with FEMA that I thought were
very confident in their jobs.

Speaker 7 (52:01):
But you're right.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
Once then it's this is like I was talking about yesterday.
Once the management attitude, and thank you very much for
the collmaker. The management attitude is one that is rot
with bureaucracy, and then they are willing to accept it.

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Speaker 6 (55:22):
You want me to make a prediction that's running through
my mind that I hope is one hundred percent wrong,
And people are gonna scream and say that I'm fear mongering.
Somebody's going to freeze to death. I'm a kid who
grew up in the mountains. Somebody's going to freeze to death.
The what you need to winter camp have how many
of you have winter camped? How many of you have

(55:44):
winter camped where? Because you didn't wrap enough blankets around
the propane, it turned to gel in the canister? Did
you know it can do that? I do the amount
of things that you need to be able to do that,
and that's not And also there's things you don't do.

(56:07):
There are parts of the day where you're not outside,
you don't come in contact with water.

Speaker 7 (56:11):
You don't drink alcohol in that situation.

Speaker 6 (56:13):
Because it gives you a false sense of the internal
temperature of your body. And if you drink too much,
people freeze to death in tents. And somebody who's living
in a tent for eight weeks in Swanna Noah, thinking
help will never come, might damn well reach for the bottle.

(56:35):
And then what are we gonna say? I shouldn't I
should have called somebody? Who who should they have called?
I don't have any family, I have friends. I don't
have family not here. I mean, I have two sisters
and a brother. Other than that, the rest of my
family is dead, gone, and neither of those three are

(56:57):
anywhere near here. So what about that? Remember that old
lady who went back in her house and was the
fatality there in Chimney Chimney Rock didn't have anybody, That's
what they said. So now you're living in a tent.
You're getting a wall of wind that is making homeowners nervous,

(57:20):
home occupiers nervous, and you get snow on top of it,
and you get wet snows. It's good.

Speaker 7 (57:27):
See, it's even gonna be worse than snow.

Speaker 6 (57:28):
It's gonna be wet snow because of where the temperatures
are is right now, which is far worse because then
you get ice pretty quickly. It's just the whole thing
is maddening, and the thing in California is maddening because
it shows you the inefficiency of stuff. So in the
state of California, they took that twenty million dollar loan

(57:49):
to shore up their unemployment fund, which they squandered through
just hey, who wants money, come to the money room.

Speaker 7 (57:57):
All of that happened, and.

Speaker 6 (57:59):
Then they made a conscious decision budgeting to not pay it.
So this isn't They didn't have the money, and now
the bank's coming for their house, you know what, like
normal people deal with. They had the money, per se, right,
they but they couldn't cut any of their their pets, stuff.
So they just didn't pay it. Why because the federal

(58:20):
government has recourse. And I learned about this when I
saw it. You know who chef Andrew Gruhl is on Twitter.
It's pretty He posts a lot, but he also owns
a couple He owns restaurants in California. American Gravy is
one of them. Slapfish is the other one. All right,
And I think they have a few locations in around
La there. So he was doing his payroll and because

(58:43):
you enter it into the state system there for his payroll,
and it was two thousand dollars more, and they were
trying to what the hell's the two thousand Because when
you take a loan from the Feds as a state
and you don't pay it, the backup their leverage is
they then tax your businesses. So every State of California
business that pays federal tax saw an increase. His was

(59:06):
two thousand dollars in one month. That's twenty four thousand
dollars a year for however long it takes to meet
this obligation that his businesses and others will have to
pay because the state borrowed the money, use them as
the collateral, and is now forcing them. And oh, by
the way, if you try to sell your business and leave,
that's an exit tax. The amount of absurdity that we're

(59:30):
having to fish through on the show today is crazy.
We'll be back, but I want to point out I'm
putting this plan together on the fly while I'm doing
a radio show. I know it doesn't sound impressive, but
it's really I'm like having to read stuff while I'm talking, Okay,
because I just want to make sure I'm like, I'm

(59:51):
not crazy. If you have trailers, you have trailer spots.
I know I'm harping on this, but hear me out.
Three hundred and forty is the number of RV campgrounds
currently exist in the state of North Carolina's state owned
or so state parks or state owned attractions greet and forty.

Speaker 7 (01:00:08):
Now, they're not all in.

Speaker 6 (01:00:10):
Western North Carolina, however, the majority are and in western
North Carolina. That that number translates to once you break
it down by region, so not counting to Piedmont, not
counting eastern North Carolina. Currently there are four hundred and
eighty one RV sites that include electrical, sewer.

Speaker 7 (01:00:31):
And water.

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
Now, some of them may have been impacted for the
same reason that people don't have access to water or
electricity in some areas of western North Carolina. I yield
that this is but those are just state spaces, and
I did. This didn't dawn on me, but then when
I was researching this it did. In addition to four

(01:00:52):
hundred and eighty one camp sites which have the basic
necessities of life, they have we the state of North
Carolina has one hundred and fifty one reservable cabins. I
forgot about these reservable cabins with sewer, water and electricity,
with the exception of but these are not state ones.

(01:01:16):
Some of the cabins that are utilized along the old
app trail up there, So that's that doesn't count anything
in the federal system. So when I talk about like Price,
that's a state park. When you look at campgrounds in
the Pizga, those are generally federal Blue Ridge Parkway federal,

(01:01:38):
and I am. I can't track down the number of
the FED sites. But if there's four hundred and eighty
one r V sites plus one hundred and fifty one cabins,
you do almost six hundred and fifty people or not
just people, families, families who are living in a tent
right now. Shouldn't be grab a call here, Alan, what's up?

Speaker 18 (01:02:06):
Hey, thanks for taking my call. I hope you're doing
well your.

Speaker 6 (01:02:10):
Last collar tents in the mountains, Sir. I'm doing fantastical
and he's gonna I'm.

Speaker 18 (01:02:18):
A retired Yeah, I'm a retired engineer from the North
Carolina National Guard. I've been on multiple state active duties
and What makes me frustrated is as soon as FEMA
shows up and the bureaucracy hits you can't do nothing.
For example, we operate chainsaws. You could not operate chainsaws

(01:02:39):
to help the state of South Carolina because we weren't
forestry certified to operate a chainsaw. I understand if I'm
cutting a tree down beside a house, but if the
tream's already on the house, what does that matter. I'm
licensed by the military to use a chainsaw. The other
thing is every year we're looking for projects, the state
buys them to do the project. Why can't we repair

(01:03:02):
a FEMA trailers?

Speaker 11 (01:03:05):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:03:05):
No, this is what I mean. I don't know about
old government. I don't know the full state.

Speaker 6 (01:03:09):
But to your point, this is you guys are exactly
like explain explain to people, because I think people lost
it when they were hearing like the staging that was
going on down to Brag for like a week before
they let those soldiers in.

Speaker 7 (01:03:21):
You guys have whole divisions.

Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
Probably not the right word, but there are groups where
this is your moo, correct, this is it.

Speaker 18 (01:03:30):
This is your job in the engineers. In the engineers,
we have electricians, farmers, we have carpentry, masonry, We have
heavy equipment operators, so we can do everything from bigger
foundation to put a roof on a house. The problem
is is when we get well, there's lots of problems.
But under previous administrations, we would like I remember, we would.

Speaker 16 (01:03:54):
Be on call twenty four hours.

Speaker 18 (01:03:56):
Hey, hurricane's coming. Get your go bag ready in case.

Speaker 10 (01:03:59):
We get called up.

Speaker 18 (01:04:00):
You report to the armory within twenty four hours. We
were boots on the ground.

Speaker 7 (01:04:06):
But now he's telling me they give them three days
of this time around.

Speaker 18 (01:04:10):
Yeah, they now they sit around, But I mean we
would already be staged closer to the area. Like so
the hurricane is going to hit the mountains, so the
day before the hurricane hits, a lot of times we
would be staged in Hickory with all our equipment and
all our guys.

Speaker 11 (01:04:25):
Yeah, and we're ready to go.

Speaker 18 (01:04:27):
And when when you're first on the ground, you usually
work with the local sheriff, local police, or the local
fire department. Yes, and we would help clear the routes
for emergency services. But then as soon as FEMA stepped in,
it was like, stop what you're doing. We got to
get permission, We got to get authorization and casey, you

(01:04:50):
sit around for three or four days doing nothing.

Speaker 6 (01:04:53):
And you tell what, dude, the chainsaw thing blows me
away because South Carolina is such a lawless land for
everything else.

Speaker 7 (01:05:00):
So they didn't you know, how to run.

Speaker 18 (01:05:02):
Well it wasn't, but it wasn't. But it wasn't South Carolina.
That's just it.

Speaker 16 (01:05:06):
I mean we went down there, what was it six
seven years.

Speaker 19 (01:05:09):
Ago, Yeah, when they had all the flooding, and you know,
you're out there trying to you want to operate a chainsaw,
and anybody that served in the military will tell you, like,
you don't just.

Speaker 18 (01:05:21):
Get licensed on a chainsaw. You get licensed on every
type of chainsaw the military has. So if there's a
chainsaw and you're not licensed on it, you can't use it. So,
you know, I'm like, if I was cutting a tree
down free standing beside a house, you know, I'd want
to be concerned. I'd want somebody to be licensed and
bonded and all that. But if the tree is already

(01:05:43):
down and it's blocking the road and the ambulance seems
to get through you to save somebody, who cares. If
you're licensed is by the federal government to cut down
a tree.

Speaker 7 (01:05:52):
The tree year eleven year old nephew who can run.

Speaker 10 (01:05:55):
A chainsaw, just be honest, right, you know?

Speaker 18 (01:05:58):
And you know and yeah, and if you just make
one cut and hook a chain up to it and
drag the tree off the road, at least then emergency
vehicles can get through. But you know, when they put
a stop to everything, and then you're sitting there scratching
your head like this is why I joined the National Guard,
because I get to serve in the military, but I
also get to serve my community. When the natural disaster

(01:06:18):
hits and and.

Speaker 16 (01:06:20):
It's it gets so frustrating because.

Speaker 18 (01:06:22):
You're like sitting there for three or four days until
you get to do anything, and then it's like not
even really doing.

Speaker 7 (01:06:27):
Its sharpening your blades, just waiting to turn it on.

Speaker 6 (01:06:30):
Its crazy Alan taking the vehicle. Yeah, hey, I appreciate
the call this morning, and you know, thank you too
for you know, making that commitments the community, even if
people stood in your way, so I can't even imagine.

Speaker 16 (01:06:44):
I appreciate it, And thank you for all you guys.

Speaker 18 (01:06:46):
DoD Man. I love your show and I listened every day.

Speaker 6 (01:06:48):
We're blowhearts Man, You're out there running a chainsaw when
they let you. So that's that's good.

Speaker 18 (01:06:52):
Stuck, well not anymore.

Speaker 16 (01:06:54):
I'm retired back case.

Speaker 6 (01:06:56):
Oh you're not you're not licensed. I understand, all right, Alan,
appreciate it. Have a good one there, and then somebody
else send me this email.

Speaker 7 (01:07:04):
You hear you ready?

Speaker 6 (01:07:05):
You just you know it was your craft some more
this Why I'm sorry, Does any you want me to
do a story that's not this for just like two
minutes so we can all calm down because the next
email I'm gonna read you it might put you over
the top instead. Why don't we go and real just
real quick, and then we'll do the weather.

Speaker 7 (01:07:23):
In a moment.

Speaker 6 (01:07:25):
Let's uh So, the the the ghoul who murdered Lake
and Riley was sentenced to stay to life in prison,
which I hate, Like this week, that guy and this
that sick woman who cooked her babies in the oven
filmed it to spite her boyfriend or husband both got
life and not the.

Speaker 7 (01:07:42):
Wood chipper, which is frank.

Speaker 6 (01:07:44):
I don't know if I'm licensed to run one near Forrest,
but I think that's where they both should go.

Speaker 7 (01:07:49):
But how did it happen? Well, CNN did the analysis.

Speaker 20 (01:07:52):
It's important to note that all of this vitriol that
we're hearing from a Republicans and President elect Trump regarding
the policies of the Biden administration, it's important to know
that President Trump, a president like Trump, did force Republicans
to essentially tank a bipartisan border security bill that both
sides of the aisle said would have essentially addressed border

(01:08:15):
security and immigration issues.

Speaker 6 (01:08:17):
Here, okay, about nine things. Yere one the bill that
only contained twelve percent of its funding to actually dealing
with immigration stuff. The rest was Ukraine, Israel, bunch of
stuff that had nothing to do with it. Two, that
bill was proposed after Lakenriley was killed, so it would
have done nothing, And frankly, there's not a lot of

(01:08:38):
confidence it would have done anything anyway, because the monies
were about getting more people to the border and to
facilitate essentially the fast tracking of people into the country.
Now they were going to It wasn't remain in Mexico.
There was going to be some extra barriers there, but
it wouldn't do anything with dudes already running around who

(01:08:59):
had committed multiple crimes in multiple states. So the level
of dishonesty over there at CNN and others that the
MSNBC is probably going away. You realize that right as
you know it at least named that NBC wants that carcass.

Speaker 7 (01:09:13):
Off of their payroll.

Speaker 6 (01:09:16):
They finally come to the conclusion that it's damaging the
NBC News brand. It's very clear with the discussions they're
having right now. The irony is they don't recognize that
the NBC News brand also damages the NBC News brand.

Speaker 7 (01:09:29):
But you know who buys it? Soros?

Speaker 6 (01:09:31):
Is this kid who just bought all those radio stations?
Am I allowed to bring up Soros?

Speaker 18 (01:09:35):
So?

Speaker 6 (01:09:35):
I mean, they did just buy all those radio stations.
They buy that and then just flip it. What happens
to the immense salaries that people like Maddow and them
get and Morning Joe? Oh man, what happens to Morning Joe?
Maybe that's why he's up in the winter White house
kissing butt. The other day anyway, raced Agic from the

(01:09:57):
Weather Channel. Why'd you try to blow poor his house
down yesterday?

Speaker 21 (01:10:03):
I huffed and I puffed.

Speaker 6 (01:10:05):
Yeah, you did some huffing and puffing. It's the first
thing I said to me this Morning's like, holy crap,
that wind yesterday My house almost blew over, so I
need you to not do that again.

Speaker 21 (01:10:15):
Well that was the almost said Arctic front, not really
an Arctic front yet. We're getting into that time of
year though, I was the cold front, and now the
chili temperatures. Just again, do you have a freeze watch
actually covering up most of the triangle here for tomorrow morning,
so the colder air continues to come in. I mean,
we could get to the mid fifties Tomato. Yeah, yeah,

(01:10:35):
they could be. They could be, but the wind's gonna
make it feel chillier. The winds haven't picked up yet.
We'll have to get the sun to continue to shine
on the atmosphere. We call it mixing. So once we
see the winds from the upper levels, it's a it's
a physics thing. I don't want to get into it.
I already did. But just it's gonna be breezy to
windy later, how about that? And it's not gonna feel
like the fifties tonight, near freezing, Thus the freeze watch

(01:10:57):
for some of us that may not have had freezing
temperatures yet. Tomorrow is still a gusty breeze in the
low fifties. Over the weekend, we get a little mile.
They're back close to our above sixty degrees for the triangle,
probably staying in the fifties for the triad and then
near seventy Monday, so we will get warm up. This
little cold snap in the mountains are winter weather advisories now,
and they do get into the western North Carolina mountains Heywood,

(01:11:19):
Yancey Counties, not Bunkham County where Asheville resides.

Speaker 6 (01:11:22):
So our buddy Mark's doing. Okay, give me the haywood.
There's a bunch of damage, and he give me the haywood.
How cold is yeah? Going to be tonight because we
have people living in tents and we have FEMA trailers
right Hickory that nobody will move.

Speaker 7 (01:11:33):
So sorry, I'm very.

Speaker 6 (01:11:34):
Yeah, it's yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:11:36):
It's winds maybe twenty to thirty miles per hour, snow
Hickory may see a slusher light accumulation, but there could
be two to four inches in some of the higher
peaks above two or three thousand feet, So really good
times on where you are. Heywood, Okay, so Heywood, Haywood County. Yeah,
there may be a couple of inches of snow accumulating too,

(01:11:56):
So let's see Heywood, Yancey, Madison Counties in that Heywood
in the winter weather advisory that could be for up
to maybe four to seven inches above five thousand feet
so and the wind's gusting, so it's gonna feel like winter.

Speaker 6 (01:12:10):
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Speaker 10 (01:12:15):
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Speaker 6 (01:12:17):
Yeah, that's that's.

Speaker 7 (01:12:19):
Another word that was going for.

Speaker 6 (01:12:21):
That's not nicest man. Justice all right, I'm sorry to
drag you into my CV mature this problem.

Speaker 7 (01:12:26):
So yeah, problem, all right, we'll talk in an hour.

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We'll be back. Want one more bite at this apple
before we again? We go chat with Cassie Clark, social
media influencer and uh a hawk on what's going on
in North Carolina's western uh western mountains and uh this
FEMA trailer thing.

Speaker 7 (01:16:22):
We're gonna we'll get into all of this.

Speaker 6 (01:16:25):
And by the way, I probably have one hundred trucks
where people would immediately plus I gotta we got a
bunch of great listeners that you know they houl heavy
equipment and whatnot. So the trucks they have or are
We're not just talking F two fifties here. We're talking
the big boys, which is good because it doesn't matter
at that point.

Speaker 11 (01:16:44):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:16:44):
If you got the equipment to go ahead and haul it,
then you do it. And the amount of people that
would come forward within it would take nothing. And I
don't care whether you're in your standard pickup truck. In fact,
I was gonna look up the gross weight on one
of these things. This coupled with the ability to have

(01:17:05):
access to these campgrounds. I don't know why this isn't
at the very least the first thing easy that you
do and then do other stuff so you you know,
have your personal truck, have that dually you bought because
you work a construction gig, be a Kenworth pulling logs,
a cab overpete with a refront, or a Jimmy Hollen'd hoggs.

Speaker 7 (01:17:23):
I don't care, and some of you will get that reference.
I don't care.

Speaker 6 (01:17:27):
And the people who are sitting intense freezing their ass
off side, they don't care either.

Speaker 10 (01:17:34):
This is wild.

Speaker 6 (01:17:35):
And then I read this and then I just lose
my mind more. Uh, all right, be very careful here.
A lot of people, a lot of people and understandably
don't want their names used because they're surrounded by bureaucrats.
You do too, too.

Speaker 7 (01:17:51):
Okay, So I got this email.

Speaker 6 (01:17:53):
This is from a guy who who works as alignment
or works with the linemen, and he says that quote,
we went to we went to restore in western North Carolina.
The company, the power company, I'm not sure which one,
set up an entire camp with showers, lodging trailers, food tents,

(01:18:14):
so commas. You know, you got commissary, you got stores,
you've got the cafeteria, you've got the shower facilities, You've
got all of this for thousands of linemen in a weekend.
The mini city also includes its own fuel for everything, right,
so they keep it all. I'm assuming it's massive general
I don't know, but it doesn't matter. They've set up

(01:18:35):
a facility so that these linemen can do the really
important work that they're doing, which is to spread out.
And within a weekend they took a parcel of land
and turned it into a thousands of multi thousands.

Speaker 7 (01:18:49):
Of people's city.

Speaker 6 (01:18:52):
For people who are going to spend really long days
working and need to be able just to you know,
have five minutes to get some sleep and some food
and all of it. They're able to facilitate that, and
you know why, because they're not the government. Because they're
not the government, and so they can go ahead and
do this. I surprise some bureaucrats not over there, like,

(01:19:12):
oh we brought the fire, marshal, let's check. See how
many people you have to shut up? It's been me
just trying not to lose my crap all morning. So
now I'm going to push that responsibility off on our guest,
Cassie Clark. You follow on Twitter at Dogwood Blooms, a
very good source of what's been happening out in West
North Carolina, Western North Carolina and more specifically what's not

(01:19:33):
been happening, and that has been the focus this morning.

Speaker 7 (01:19:36):
Cassie, how you doing today?

Speaker 8 (01:19:38):
I'm good.

Speaker 16 (01:19:39):
How are you well?

Speaker 6 (01:19:41):
I'm not living in a tent in Swannanoah with two
inches of forecasted wet snow. Oh that's right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:19:48):
Unfortunately.

Speaker 6 (01:19:49):
Look I saw your post yesterday and then our discussion
this morning. I just wanted to prove a point and
I want to talk about these FEMA trailers. Within one
segment of this show, one hundred and fifty people with
trucks that can haul these things, who will go drive
there tomorrow. The need for flat space with sewer, water
and electric exists in western North Carolina to the tune

(01:20:13):
of four hundred and fifty one state park places one
hundred and fifty cabins. And that's not counting fed campgrounds
for our vs, which are established and ready. Why what
is going on in Hickory and why are those trailers
there and not say in Price Park near Blowing Rock?

Speaker 7 (01:20:30):
What is going on?

Speaker 22 (01:20:32):
So I've been on the sound with multiple people who
are involved in politics, you can know that I'm not.
From what I understand. The problem with getting the trailers
into western North Carolina is they will not set those
up in floodplains. And after the storm, a great many
people who are hurting right now own property where in floodplains.

Speaker 6 (01:20:56):
Understandable, And that's why when I say, understand why you
don't want to go stick it on a guy's plot
of land if it's in a floodplain, although some of
it I don't because of what they've now expanded the
definition of floodplain, but those campgrounds are not. They're specifically
not that. We don't build those in flood plains. If
you go to price, you'd understand. And I'm sure you've

(01:21:17):
camped over the years and one of our beautiful campgrounds
here in North Carolina. They don't build those in flood plains.
And so they have and they're flat and they're ready
to rock and roll. Has this even been discussed with
any of the folks you've been speaking with, because it
sounds like a solution, or at least a temporary solution.

Speaker 22 (01:21:36):
I have not heard that at all. But I think
it's important to remember that hillbilly culture is different than
anywhere else, right, And so you know I've said this before.
I'm a part owner of a piece of property in Canton,
North Carolina. That piece of property has been in my
family for five generations. To me, that piece of land

(01:21:57):
is like my family. I love it dearly. Would not
tell me that I cannot live there if I wanted to.
You could not convince me of that.

Speaker 11 (01:22:05):
Right.

Speaker 22 (01:22:05):
That's part of my culture. And so a lot of
these people who live on these plots of land that
have been flooded out it's land that they've inherited, right,
and so they're going to be just as attached to
that piece of property as I am to mine. And
so there's going to be a huge cultural disconnect between

(01:22:28):
the rules and regulation set by FEMA and local entities
and the people who are living on those plots of land.

Speaker 6 (01:22:36):
And let's talk about those people for a moment. And
your family and my family have something in common that
most people don't realize happened to families who homesteaded, you know,
before the establishment of things like the Pisca National Forest
or in my case, the Big Horn National Forest. My

(01:22:56):
family grew up a big chunk of that National forest
and joy used to be our property, okay, And and
they they went through this reclamation, they took this back,
so it created significant trust issues with the descendants of
people living there. What what in your in your obviously
knowed learned over your growing up there and your family

(01:23:19):
being their opinion, what do you how do you think
that most western North Carolina, especially legacy property owners like
that view anything with the Feds based on that and
several other things that have happened over the years, there's
no trust there.

Speaker 22 (01:23:36):
None as far as this trust of the government goes.
You're not going to find a place where that's more
deeply entrenched than Appalasia, Right. I mean my family what
you were talking about with the forest, My family roots
are very deeply embedded in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park.
Ask us how they got that, how they.

Speaker 7 (01:23:55):
Can how they get that light? You remember, you get
to go there for free forever, right.

Speaker 22 (01:23:59):
Oh, you're supposed to, but now there's parking fees.

Speaker 7 (01:24:02):
Yeah, so weird.

Speaker 6 (01:24:03):
Which is an actual which is which is a promise
that was made on the record to Cassie's family and
others that they would never have to pay to access
what used to be theirs.

Speaker 22 (01:24:13):
That's correct, Just like the roads nowhere was a promise
that we would have a road back to our family
burial plots. That's they never completed that. Now there's wild
pigs rowing around and they root up our burial spot
and they won't allow us to put senses up.

Speaker 6 (01:24:31):
We had a guy call in in the last hour
as a National Guardsman who said that when they went
to respond to an emergency in South Carolina a few
years ago, they are trained engineers.

Speaker 7 (01:24:40):
They're trained to literally run all the chainsaws.

Speaker 6 (01:24:42):
The FEDS stopped him because he wasn't force certified for
chainsaw use. This is a guy in uniform whose mos
is to run chainsaws. So yeah, it's it's wacky. But
here's the thing. We can sit here and we can
grouse about this all we want. If these folks would
just move out of the way, there's a solution for
these trailers. It may not be a solution for everyone.

(01:25:04):
But here's what I'm terrified about, Cassie. I've camped in
the winter. The amount of preparation and things that you
need and how careful you have to be cannot be over.
I can't say it enough times. And whether it is
things that you just you strictly don't consume alcohol in
those situations give you a false sense of warmth. And

(01:25:24):
the amount of people who have killed themselves with propane
heaters or other heating elements. I am terrified that somebody
in North Carolina is going to die winter camping, whether
it's from long range pneumonia, they catch their tent on fire,
the wind, the damn near Blue House is over. Just
going through the triangle yesterday cuts through you. This is

(01:25:48):
we're getting into emergency range. When they're forecasting two inches
of snow. People got to be freaking out up there.

Speaker 22 (01:25:55):
Oh, I'm sure. I mean I have talked to several people,
and I do want to correct the record. On yesterday
in my video, I said that there were tent cities
in Swanaoah. I've spoken to about four people who have
confirmed that those are volunteer tents. So there's not actually
people who are living in those particular tents or.

Speaker 6 (01:26:19):
The one video, but the video that the dude did
or the one where it's just kind of where they've
spin around, because there's two different videos out there.

Speaker 22 (01:26:26):
Well, the one that I did yesterday, I said that
there are two tent cities in Suanaoah. Those tent cities
are actually full of volunteers. Now, does that mean that
there aren't people living in tents?

Speaker 19 (01:26:38):
No.

Speaker 22 (01:26:38):
I actually spoke to someone, a preacher's wife last night,
who told me several areas where there are still people
living intents. I'm going to try to confirm that. But
I also spoke to Sean Hendrix who let me though
that there are people living in RVs that he has
actually supplied who don't have electricity. Sure, so you're still

(01:27:00):
talking about the same thing you're talking about people not
having shu.

Speaker 6 (01:27:04):
No, no, that's one hundred percent there. And yeah, the
other video, I think they only identified four tenths rather
than tense cities, So I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:27:13):
I'd be curious to hear that though.

Speaker 6 (01:27:14):
But you're right, the amount of people without power, that's
confirmable because they report this. We got an email earlier
from a guy who's alignment said that they constructed a
city that literally houses you know, thousands of people, which
are just all the linemen working up They're completely with cafeteria, lodging,
shower facilities, entertainment facilities. It's a city. They built a

(01:27:36):
city in a weekend up there, and they did it
because they're a private company.

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And so I think that's where most people's frustration lies. Also,
they're seeing things like this woman who thankfully was relieved
of her duties yesterday, who was in charge of the
Hurricane Matthew relief, which, as we know, simply has an
arrived for many people yet. And so if you're sitting
in the mountains watching that and you're thinking when was Matthew?

(01:31:07):
Now you're extra terrified in your RV without energy or
whatever it may be.

Speaker 22 (01:31:13):
Bob said, I celebrated last night when I found out
that she had been relieved of her duties. I'm not
kidding us. Sat down until about three shots and then
shine and celebrated because not only do I have roots
in western North Carolina, I have roots in eastern North
Carolina too, And so you know, no matter where you're
at in the state, whatever is going on and impacting

(01:31:33):
me and my family in some way, and that was
vile when that came out that there are still people
without homes who were impacted by Matthew and Florence.

Speaker 6 (01:31:43):
What do you make of the hearings, the FEMA hearings,
because do we had a second whistle blow or so
to speak?

Speaker 7 (01:31:51):
And if you guys didn't catch that.

Speaker 6 (01:31:52):
So you know the woman right who was fired, and
she came on and said, no, this is kind of
the atmosphere there at standard operating procedure. The second one
came from a contractor, a FEMA contractor who, in a
conversation with an elderly disabled veteran in Georgia, told Comer,
the chair of the committee, that he recommended to this

(01:32:13):
guy who was wondering where the help is to remove
all Trump signage from his property. So there's a couple
things that make you go, what the heck's going on here?
Not that our governor or are soon to be governor
care but do you think at the federal level they
accomplish anything with that hearing, because now it just sounds
like they're going to have they're going to have an
investigation with a blue ribbon panel and that doesn't put

(01:32:37):
that in one hand and you know what in the other,
and you know which one fills up faster.

Speaker 22 (01:32:42):
Well, anyone who knows me, who knows me well, knows
that I have zero trust in the government at all.
I mean, that's part of my heritage, right, like I
have left. Right, that's all the same to me. And
so did they accomplish anything? Did they ever know? You know,
all they did was ask a couple of questions and
that's it. FEMA is going to continue to do what
they've always done, and we're just going to continue to

(01:33:04):
think money into them, and people will continue to wait
for years on end, and trailers will sit somewhere and
rot like they always have. I mean, whatever changes.

Speaker 6 (01:33:14):
Yeah, let me ask you, this is nothing changes. So
let me let me ask you what do you think?
What do you think? Is there an individual or maybe
I don't want you throwing names out. Is there something
that is a big hold up that you think is
seemingly easy to solve or is it just the totality
of the bureaucracy, Like because I want to get stuff solved,

(01:33:37):
so like this is and most people do. So is
there one or two things that if people really put
pressure on you think that would make things better there
From what you're observing.

Speaker 22 (01:33:49):
I think that this is going to take the people
raising King honestly. I mean I've seen that. You know,
I'm not a political pundit aloho about culture, right, and
this storm came and all of a sudden, my whole
direction changed, just because I want to deal with this
particular topic, right, And all of a sudden, I have

(01:34:11):
politicians calling me and in my DMS all the time,
like wanting to discuss, to discuss what we can do
to make things better. Well, the honest answer to that
is is obviously get rid of the red tape. You know,
we just found out that trailers aren't being placed on
people's property because they're in a floodplane. What kind of
sense does that make when this was a storm that

(01:34:33):
only occurs what once every hundred years, once every five
hundred years.

Speaker 6 (01:34:38):
It was more than that, even I think it was
even I think it were in the thousands. But to
your point, it's taken. Yeah, and they're temporary trailers. They're temporary, right,
And I remember they staged an entire city of them
directly outside the city of New Orleans, which correct me
if I'm wrong. That's in a floodplane right because it's
under sea level.

Speaker 22 (01:34:59):
Exactly. So they can do whatever they want, and they
have proved it over and over again. So if they
can do whatever they want, why can't they actually help
the people and make a difference.

Speaker 6 (01:35:10):
Let me ask you one last topic. This is one
that gets batted around and people go, it's fake news.
It's not. But I've seen too many videos of this now,
so I'm curious what you think people who are fearful
that the state will come in and take their kids
because they're in a they're in essentially not a legal
living situation due to no fault of their own. But

(01:35:35):
you know, if they got the kids living in something
without power, feasibly, DHS will come in and do some
about it. So are people worried or are is there
tangible evidence that that is something that could occur? Even
though they're screaming for help, the breaking up of families,
what is I'm sure you've gotten many of these videos
forwarded to you. What do you think?

Speaker 22 (01:35:56):
Absolutely so, I'm not the biggest fan of dsa US,
particularly in western North Carolina. What I will say is
that I don't think that they're just going in and
taking children, really nilly. What's happening is is a lot
of these people already have cases against them. Then Helene came,
and when Helene came it it caused DSS to have

(01:36:20):
a reason to go in and take those kids. So, yes,
there have been instances, but those particular instances ended up
being where there was already a case open. Could that
progress from here? I don't put anything you know, absolutely
I think that it could happen. Will it I don't know.

(01:36:40):
Only time will tell.

Speaker 6 (01:36:41):
But interesting Engel, actually can I you don't have to
name names, have democrat? I know, I know you don't
want drug into this, but unfortunately, as soon as you
started talking about it, every leftist weirdo on the internet
started attacking you.

Speaker 7 (01:36:54):
I see what's in your post there.

Speaker 6 (01:36:55):
So with the politicians who are calling you just want
to know, and I hope the answer is yes. Are
they on both sides of the aisle right? That's the
only way this gets done?

Speaker 22 (01:37:06):
No, they're not. And that really upsets me because, to
be quite frank, I'm not a like I said, I'm
not a political pundit. I'm not one of these people
out here who are bashing one side or the other.
I try to be fairly equal, and the way that
I treat this way.

Speaker 6 (01:37:22):
Yeah yeah, right, on both of them. That's how they
that's the fairest.

Speaker 22 (01:37:25):
Way, so right, and so it gives me the feeling
that there's only one side who actually cares about what's happening.
And that's not a good look for the Democrats.

Speaker 6 (01:37:35):
Yeah, and I saw somebody comment they go, well, the
only reason the Republicans are doing it is because political reasons.
I'm like, do you think that the person with no
electricity and they're a trailer that the Hendricks folks have
been nice enough? Do you think you have a crap
why somebody wants to come up there and help them?

Speaker 7 (01:37:49):
I don't think they.

Speaker 22 (01:37:50):
Do, right, And let's not forget that asshole is a
solid blue city, you know, and y'all don't care about them.
Those are people who vote for you, and so for
no one at all to have reached out from the
Democrat Party is really disappointing.

Speaker 6 (01:38:05):
Yeah all right, Well, look, I know some of them
listen because they steal little snippets and then bark about
it on Twitter.

Speaker 7 (01:38:13):
So hopefully they heard this part. We'll see Cassie I
got a role.

Speaker 6 (01:38:16):
It's at Dogwood Blooms your Twitter handle. Folks should follow you.
Lots lots of interesting stuff posted there. We appreciated this point,
Thank you, Kathy. All Right, there you go, Cassie Clark
here on the Cacoday radio program. So just a barrage
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