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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I feel like we got genied yesterday. Do you know
(00:02):
what that means when I say you got genid? What's
the hallmark of a genie? How can you go wrong
with the genie?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Is?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
What is the classic mistake that people who find the
lamp get to make the three wishes? What is the
classic mistake that they make when uh doing the wishes
with the genie ross? What's the classic genie inspired mistake
that tends to trip people up? Specificity? Right, you make
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you do the thing you wish for the thing, and
then you don't put the parameters enough, and genies your
natural d heads and then they just kind of lay, oh,
is this what you meant? And then it's clearly not
what you meant. So yesterday when I said on this
show that honestly I would take any other news cycle
over this Taylor Swift garbage, this is not what I meant,
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But maybe I should have been more specific. I am
blown away, as somebody who lived in Minneapolis for damn
near a decade.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
The cultural and imports.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
That this city, which isn't look Minneapolis is obviously one
of our big cities as far as markets go. It's
a high teens market from a media market standpoint, you know,
it's you got the Minneapolis Saint Paul, you got a
Gazilian suburbs, you have the north Woods. Don't get me wrong,
I have a lot of friends in Minnesota, and I
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even yes during the cold weather because I'll do the
ice Fishion really enjoyed it. But the cultural aspect was
already going in one particular direction there in the city
of Minneapolis. Riding was kind of on the wall because
you got you gotta remember when I lived there. Well,
the first governor at the time when I moved there
was Jesse Ventura, but then it was Tim Plenty. Uh,
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you know, basically almost the entire rest of the time
that I lived there. And you had Republicans, you had
dfl what they call themselves Democrats.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
And you have.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
But she had very few hyperly insane people politically, even
the mayor of Minneapolis prior to Frey, who's the current mayor.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Who will hear from this morning? Yeah, it just wasn't that.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I mean, Amy Klobashar was like the district attorney at
the time, but she was somewhat corralled on how crazy
she could be. I don't know, I don't know what happened.
I mean, I do know what happened. The Twin Cities
themselves are the natural ending point for about five different states.
Liberal kids who live in small towns who don't want
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to live there anymore. They want to move to the
city so they can be all super progressive because they
don't fit in out and you know, austin Minnesota with
the spam Museum, that's not their vibe. But they'll go
up to the Twin Cities. And there was always a
very near balance with what we call in state out state, right,
so the Twin Cities and then everybody else. It was
almost a five million to five million right there, and
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clearly people have gravitated towards the city that of course,
you know, put DFL firmly in control because Republicans are
basically in control. And then it shockingly got Jerry Mander
to hell and here we be and as a result,
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what do we have.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
We got the George.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Floyd thing, right, that's you know, that was probably the
biggest draw there. But we've had subsequent issues up in Minneapolis.
Now we have this thing up there, and of course
all the worst political takes are going to follow it
from local politicians who want to sit here and go, oh, well,
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it's you know what it is. It's the guns again,
even though there's a thousand other things going on, like
this school along with other other parochial schools that had
requested that under this governor, that they also receive security allocations. Now,
for those of you going it's a private school, well
not a public school. You don't understand how that relationship
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works in Minnesota. I do, and it's not as cut
and dry as that. See Minnesota, unlike North Carolina a
while ago, is actually somewhat progressive on the idea that
money should follow students, and that's how it's worked for
a variety of things. Sports would be really the primary
example up there, but it works for also some additional stuff,
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even some of the moneies that are allocated for students
who have learning disabilities so they can still be homeschooled,
but then they can get a tutor, you know, a
certain number of days a week, and then the money
actually follows there. So the idea that security money, which
is a whole separate line item thing, could also follow
the parochial schools, is not an unusual ask up there,
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and frankly, via a lawsuit, it probably is going to
happen now. But when you're hyper progressive and you don't
like the idea of it's not in the public school,
you're going to play all the little games and do
things where you don't give it to them.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I don't know the totality of the conversation, but people
need to shut their face holes if they don't understand
how this works in Minnesota or how it has worked
over the years. Okay, so just FYI on that. It's
not what It's not necessarily what you think. It's a
little bit different. So with that in mind, there's a
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lot to unpack, a lot to lot to unpack with
the incident there in in Minneapolis at South Manyia, I've
actually I've actually been to mass at this church too.
That's the other crazy thing, since in South Minneapolis, I
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lived kind of southwest Minneapolis for just a minute, but
I but I've been to a holiday Mass at at
this church. So, I mean, the whole thing is crazy
to me. That you're sitting there stewing. There's a stewing
is a very appropriate word here, just stewing. And once again,
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you're you're targeting something that you have you have knowledge
of Hell, your mom worked there, mom worked there, and
you decide you're going to start firing into the chapel
portion here uh where where these students who are just
back to school for any of you, I went to
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prochial school for a while, any of you who did
as well? Right, So there there's you know, you have
mass as part of your weekly curriculum at certain points
when they have mass every day. But we had mass.
We also had families, and I don't know if all
parchial schools do that. So you you would be each
of the grades would have a representative, so you know,
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because mine was you know, they k through twelve basically,
and so each the families were divided up and then
you would have a student from each grade level and
then that was your family, and then you would gather
to go do other stuff. So the name, I can't
remember what my family was. I only went when I
was much younger. But yeah, yeah, they.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Move you around.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
You go to do these things, and there's a certain process,
a certain order to it, which is probably something that.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
This demon availed themselves of.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I don't use demon lightly, man, but watching some of
the watching the videos, looking at what was scrawled in
there like I've seen some we see it represented with
like some of the you know, the procedurals on TV
or movies. You like horror movies, I love watching horror
movies like I don't. If you wanted to scene set
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for one of the most ominous characters in a movie,
you you would reduce what you saw in those videos
to a couple key moments and points like the laughter
at the beginning, Which one's the ross?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Which one's the laughter at the beginning? Is that the
first one the second one? It's just the dude.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
The whole thing is so weird, and you would have
one of the scariest antagonists probably in film history.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
If you just incorporate all.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
The stuff this, this this creature had, it would be
it would be downright terrifying.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
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Speaker 6 (09:28):
To morrow.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
I'm sorry to my family, but that's it. That's the
only people. I'm sorry to those.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Kids, right, Okay, Look, this is one naked, tucked walk
away from literally usurping that dude.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
And you hear in the video like when he's saying
all this, like he's you know, he's got the rounds.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, those are bullets.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
That's that's a noise you hear, like the clip. Yeah,
I mean people knew what that was. You see the
manifesto or the notebook drawing him looking in a mirror
and seeing a demon.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Mm hmmmmmmm.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I saw.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I saw specifically that there was two images that really
stood out to me. One was his own self imagery
in the mirror of being the demon, and then secondly
was the uh, the Jesus target.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah. And what's terrifying is like, you know, it isn't
it like he's a schizophrenic. He's choosing to be evil.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
This is a gee and arguably he's trying to get
more over the top the whole Brandon Herrera thing too, Look,
is that's him sewing further like discord and division, like
because he's you know Brandon Herrera. I guess its scene
is more of a right wing Oh, I talked to
him at shot show. Really, did you talk to him
about shooting up at church? Because I suspect if you
did that, Brandon Herrera probably would have said something. And
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it's a lot like what you saw because he one
of the things he was fascinated with was the New
Zealand shooter. Do you remember that guy's manifesto came out
and he basically had a whole all these people praise
from like far right wing to far left wing, and
then it was it was pretty clear he was writing
it just to sew for a more discord after so
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but yeah, the demon thing was really really cool. I
mean just it's all of it's creepy, obviously constituted with
what happened, but it's not going to detract from a
conversation that needs to be had. Okay, let me play
one other piece audio real quick.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Where is your God?
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Now?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Where's Your God?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Now?
Speaker 7 (11:36):
The Big Boy RiPP and Terror.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Don't forget to live, Love and love and this one's
for me in case I need.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
It all right?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And uh how much the videos are not short either? Okay,
I'm just said, and they were uploaded I guess to
YouTube the morning of scrubbed within about an hour after
for obvious reasons, and uh, but not before people captured
him put them up. I'll just tell you if you're
gonna watch it.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Just like got it.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
It's a it's a little bit of head trip, man,
a little bit of a head trip. And then of
course that's you know, so that's part one. So there's
and and oh and and in the videos, he's also
has a has a hand drawn layout of the church
that is accurate.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And is uh you just sitting there as he's he's
like stabbing it.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
It's just there's so there's so much creepy to go around. Yeah,
there's so many level levels to this. And then on
the magazines there's like different things we're in on every magazine.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
So he's got Where's Your God?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Now?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Uh, he's got six millions, you got oh it? Not
a fan of Jews either, Yeah, six million was uh,
what'd you say?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Six million? Not in for something? Whatever? It says.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Also one of them says for the children, which I
don't like that much co opting where we're trying to
have fun.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
This guy's trying to be a terrorist dirt back.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I'm probably missing some yeah, oh yeah, well there's one
other thing too, written on the gun.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
And I hear you want to see the absolute.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Uh not crap ishyess which one is the one where
they just say Trump's name was written on the gun?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Is that the first one? Is that the first one?
Speaker 7 (13:34):
Right?
Speaker 4 (13:34):
That's ABC? Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Okay, I want you to I want you to listen
to the sheer dishonesty of the reporting because of course
you knew this was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
This is from ABC News.
Speaker 8 (13:46):
Twenty three year old Robin Westman was able to leave
what police called a video manifesto that they're now going
through to try and establish motive. We've also been going
through it and can tell you there are crude diagrams
of the church. There are also photos of the weapons,
and they include all sorts of writings, the names of
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past mass shooters, criticism of Israel, the name of President
Trump written on the guns. There are also racial slurs,
nihilistic statements, all painting the picture of a disturbed individual
who carried out this mass shooting on the first week
of school at the Annunciation Church in Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And it's a little thing, but I want you when
he says, when he pivots to Trump's name, there is
a here's an upflection. It's a little thing, but it
is also it further bastardizes what the actual thing is.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
So I want you to listen to this again.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I want you to listen when he pivots to Trump's name,
where's this weird inflection change?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Okay, where his voice goes up? And I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
That is part and parcel of selling the misrepresentation here.
And it makes me think since intentional, I could just
get conspiratory. It makes me think you did this intentionally
because of the way you transition to Trump's name in
your list.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
Twenty three year old Robin Westman was able to leave
what police called the fist that they're now going through
to try and establish motive. We've also been going through
it and can tell you there are crude diagrams of
the church. There are also photos of the weapons, and
they include all sorts of writings, the names of past
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mass shooters, criticism of Israel, the name of President Trump
written on the.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
On there. Huh, right, They make it sound like he's
a supporter Yes, that's why.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I sit there and I listen to that's the only
time you change the cadence of the way that you're
saying it, which makes me think that that's what you
intentionally did. And if you don't know what he intentionally did,
he intentionally left off the heart where it says kill,
which is an important contextual clue. Right, that's listen like this,
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It doesn't matter the tone you say. You say in it,
so I'm gonna use its demonic. I don't know another
word to describe it. Man, It's like it's like top
tier horror movie scene setter stuff, like and it's just
and he's just effortlessly flowing with it. What's let you
know it like all of the different like the stewing,
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the brooding that happened here. And then when you go
read some of this stuff. And then I got to
watch the media pretend like the literally arguably the most
one of the most blatant aspects of this doesn't exist,
or change up the language with the Trump thing where
they change the inflection like and you had Donald Trump's name.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Scrawled on his gun.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
No, he had killed Donald Trump and he had it
written twice. Get it on a magazine. Then he had
it on the actual barrel. That's context. You can't change
that with the thing.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Of your voice.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
We've already talked about this, like I can say, I
could just say Donald Trump's name in a very mean way,
and I could say kill Donald Trump in a very
happy way. And people are going to be more bothered
by the second one, like Ross Hayes kill Ross Hayes, right,
say it with an inflection, offlection like that. It doesn't
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make it any better. You dog crap ABC reporter who
knew exactly what you were doing, and you can't convince
me otherwise, and and it just gets stupider from there.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Let's go to MSNBC show.
Speaker 9 (17:44):
WEC News has confirmed with those same law enforcement officials
that the suspect left behind videos that were posted online.
There were writings that referenced suicide as well as extremely
violent thoughts and ideas. There was an apology to their
family and a handwritten sketch of the interior layout of
a church. Now, Chris, it's not clear or confirmed if
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that sketch, that individual sketch is the church where the
shooter eventually opened fire.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
But that's what we know right now.
Speaker 9 (18:12):
So Robin Westman has been identified by federal law enforcement
as the shooter.
Speaker 10 (18:18):
And it was pretty clear Chris when they gave the
press conference because they said back then he had a
limited criminal history that they must have known who he was.
But now they're obviously comfortable in letting us know that
information or various people who are confirming that for us.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Now, why did I play that clip because you're going
MSNBC didn't do anything there, but they did do something,
And it's really strange. Can you figure out what it
is that NBC or in this case, MSNBC did that.
I don't know that I've ever seen in any story
surrounding somebody who is transgender.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
They referred to him as he repeatedly in there.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Ross have we ever had he had one of these
stories where there's a transgender shooter where they where the
media hasn't tripped over themselves to affirm the new whatever
the newest identity is.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
No.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I noticed that it was super weird, like for them
for them, Yeah, it's even it's even weirder for the
story to still be here day later because of you know,
it's a trans shooter. We've seen this before in the past,
and the story just evaporates like disappears.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, well, one, they can't bury the manifesto here. And
arguably I think that that the shooter knew exactly what's up.
I think that they were instructed by what happened in Nashville,
because if you're if you're gonna do this, and you
want people to read your manifesto, and you realize that
if you leave a written copy, that the authority, because
the first thing Minneapolis would have memory, hold that thing
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in a moment, in a moment. So in this case,
chose to go to YouTube, er out, put it up there,
put it up, Put it up there too early. Although
now I see that leftists are saying and and and
you know what, maybe I'll be interested to see that
this guy was on the radar. He was on like
Reddit or in four Chan forums asking for music to
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shoot a school up to like a playlist. I don't
know if those have been confirmed to be him, but
they're like, see, if the FBI wasn't just run around
arresting gang members, then they are illegal immigrants and they
would have seen this stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
All right, Well, if that's the case, prove it to me.
And if that is the case, then that's a problem.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Well, that's that's ridiculous. How many times in the past
have we seen what's the meme? What's the Simpsons say?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
On our radar?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
He's on our radar? You say the words, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
So finding so if in fact they're on the radar
is one thing. But just because you found some four
Chan posts that you think might be connected doesn't necessarily
mean the FBI knew about it.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
But I digress. So all right, MSNBC's making some sense there.
All right, all right, let's continue to listen to the coverage.
I'm sure it won't go off the rails immediately.
Speaker 11 (20:52):
Do they help motivate him and radicalize him to carry
out this the shooting?
Speaker 10 (20:58):
When you use the word radicalize, we tend to think
of terror more traditional terrorists. Something that people came, especially
in this country.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
To seem to be thinking. This is great ross.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
They're talking about terrorism, They're using the proper pronoun. This
is unheard of, because, like you said, normally it just
goes away. I am really impressed, MSNBC. I think maybe
we might get to the bottom of what some of
the motivations or contributing factors may be.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
You guys are making a lot of sense. This is great.
Let's keep going.
Speaker 10 (21:28):
While you're with in the post nine to eleven era. Right,
So when you talk about radicalization, you talk about writings
that reference suicide, extremely violent thoughts and ideas, and those
multiple videos that are posted online. What do these groups
do when you say they radicalize?
Speaker 11 (21:46):
So you know whether it's a terrorist organization or you
know the variety of ideologies that different people follow. They're
following them because they have susceptibility. There's various push pull factors.
Maybe it's some kind of mental break, maybe it's uh Ross.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
They're talking about mental illness here too, because there's a
lot of people feel like maybe this affirming people with
not who not just have what is classic gender dysphoria.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
But more specifically, if you look at people who have
been diagnosed with gender dysphoria, they almost always have some
sort of mental core comorbidity. Right, They're dealing with other
diagnosable mental health issues. So when you when you affirm
the main one, you have to kind of ignore the
others in many cases, and maybe that strategy has been
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a bad strategy. Perhaps that's where MSNBC is going. I
will turn over a new MSNBC leaf. If that's where
we're going, I'll give you guys another chance before you
screw it all up.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I am really impressed, continued, you.
Speaker 11 (22:51):
Know, gone down to the toilet and they have no hope.
Maybe they have bead parenting, a variety of things, maybe
effects of COVID and the isolation what's called the gamification,
uh influence where young men are growing up, you know,
being raised by video games. All these things are involved
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in uh really people mobilizing towards violence more routinely in
these things. But you will also see people get radicalized
solely on these video games through headsets. They may never
go on the internet otherwise. So there's a variety of
things that you know, threat professionals look at now and trends.
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But we're seeing this repeated.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Oh oh you're doing so well ross. Which video game
is this that he acted out?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Which is it? Is it a school shooter simulator?
Speaker 7 (23:47):
I mean, what what.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
So so you could lean into almost anything there to
talk about perhaps maybe possibly what have been contributing factors.
And the thing that you decide to go ahead and
end up at is a video game headset?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Did it to them?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
How how long have we been dealing with this video
games caused shootings narrative?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Like my entire life.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I'm trying what was the first game that they probably
I remember, didn't they They think Doom was going to
do it?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Old Doom.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Yeah, I think I think they brought up Doom during Columbine. Yes, yeah,
I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, clearly that's what's going on there.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Seems to be like this is the only mental illness
where it's encouraged, Like they're enabling them.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
That's what I mean. As soon as you uh, you're.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Like, like like with any other mental illness, like they're
not going to encourage it, right, They're gonna sit you
down and they're going to figure out what the motivation
is and like how to make you better. And this
one you're like, yeah, you're totally a dude.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
No, we're dexcited to change to this affirming of heard.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yes, that's the tree been affirming, so gender.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Disport you used to be treated, Now it's affirmed, and
now we have an out Now look statistics or statistics,
but if you remove school when you see school shootings,
you need to understand that any shooting that takes place
in proximity to a school. It could be you know,
it could be some redneck beef in an egg parking lot.
(25:23):
It's more likely that it's gang stuff that's happening where
it's individualized. So when you see school shootings, people think
of something like this, or they think of the Columbine
kids or any of the rest. But if you remove
all the things that are not really about the school,
more about the individual, once you drill down. I saw
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somebody who made a compelling argument that there've only been
non targeted spontaneous. When I say non target I mean
just a single individual like I'm gonna kill Bill or
whatever it is. There's only been four in the last
two years that rise to the level if what's removed
the other stuff, and two of them have been transgender,
and one has been suspected to be at the very
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least somewhere on that LGBTQ whatever spectrum. Now I don't
know that that's enough data points, but it's sure. I
can promise you that if two of the four shooters
in the last two years we're wearing MAGA hats, we
wouldn't hear the end of it. And in this case,
as Ross pointed out, we know that part and parcel
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of this is something that until just not that long ago,
was a treatable mental health disorder. And I would also
argue that it probably is when the doctors are telling
you you're fine, and then you see Trump and others saying, well,
you're but you still can't be in women's sports and
we're going to withhold funding, and it becomes this political football.
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Mentally that has to take a toll on it.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Now only are you enabling it when it comes to
the individual, but you're telling the individual that not only
are you completely correct and you're not mentally ill, but
society need needs to change for you. We need to
change bathrooms, we need to change sports, We need to
change the English the English language, we need to Yeah,
so what does that tell the person? Right? It's called
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justification and justification And I'm always I'm always a victim.
I can't escape being a victim.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
But it's funny because that is the that's you just
get really hyper political here, that's the game plan, right,
That's what Democrats did to many minority voters.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Well, I mean it victim, But when it comes to this,
like you know, changing the English language and and all
these different things. You're really turning like to some people
are like it's a small issue. Who cares use the pronoun?
They want no, because like it starts there, but then
it up It up ends the entire structure of society
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and the family unit and gender roles and the foundation
to Western civilization and law like all of it, all
of it, it all gets flushed down the toilet.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And one of the most telling things on the affirmation
versus not affirmation is the suicide rate of people with
gender dysphor you. It's it's it's it's basically unchanged. So no,
it does not get you went over before. It doesn't
it make it worse. They're saying that it's only in
part with people that were in concentration camps during the Holocaust.
(28:26):
Not no, no, no, So these were yeah, these were
pre These were essentially Jews in Nazi occupied Germany and
other places. So this is like they knew, they knew
the end was coming, so they would take their own lives.
That is this, That is the that is the only
statistical suicide rate in modern history that matches what the
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transgender suicide rate was and continues to be even after
that period of affirmation where everything did change and everybody
it didn't help, didn't help. So that would tell me
that there's a treated other mental health issues here.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
And I don't look.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I don't care if you if you if you are transgender,
you consider yourself to be, or non binary, any of
the I still don't want you to kill yourself, right.
I have basic human compassion, and so I try to
look at this in a clinical sense. And if you're
if you have this huge problem, the statistical anomaly that
is only on par with Jews in Germany in the
nineteen thirties and forties, and it doesn't get better because
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some people came in, these woke folks, and they're like, well,
if you do this, it'll make everything better, and it's
not working. At what point do you pivot because real
lives are being lost, But you can't not when you're
ideologically dug in. Nobody should ever have to turn on
Fox News or MSNBC or CNN and see a ten
year old boy doing an interview.
Speaker 12 (29:49):
Like this, my friend like rant kind of someone helped him,
like run out. He saw him. He was wearing all
all black and he had a ski mask on. I
was down, so I didn't really look up. I mean,
he's got shot through the stained glass windows, so they're
probably ruined. And then my friend Victor, he was like
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laying on top of me, like making sure I was safe,
and he got hit, so that was really brave of him.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
And you have a nick on your neck, Yeah, that
was I.
Speaker 12 (30:20):
Don't even know it's from kind of looks like debris
or something.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
A ten year old took a bullet for another ten
year old. And I never wants to scream, what's the guns.
It's the guns. Minnesota's got a lot of guns, and
I would just argue that the person shooting it up
did more than just own guns, had a lot of
other things going on. And then what's the point too,
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When you live in a society like in Minneapolis, the
amount of prosecuted to the fullest extent gun crimes for
when they're doing gang intervention and things like that is.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Very minimal.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
All these people want new laws or the same ones
who work you know, they went cashless bond in Minneapolis
for gun crimes in some instances, give me a break.
And the mayor, mister Frey, his reaction is just I mean,
just listen, this is going to get you angry. And
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I'll explain why people are trying to defend this. Don't
have a leg to stand up.
Speaker 13 (31:26):
Those families are suffering immense pain right now. Think of
this as if it were your own. Every one of
us needs to be wrapping our arms around these families,
giving them every ounce that we can muster. These were
Minneapolis families, these were American families, and the amount of
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pain that they are suffering right now is extraordinary. Don't
just say this is about thoughts and prayers right now.
These kids were literally praying.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
He was the first week of school.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
They were in a church.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
All right, So you know, normally we wait a few
days before somebody doves the hot praying. Take but I
mocking prayer. Here is what that is. And I saw
somebody disagree with me that he's not mocking it.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
He's just pointing out the reality of it. No, he's not.
He's mocking it.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
He's saying thoughts of prayers, prayers don't work. These kids
they were praying and they were shot down. They were praying,
where's your God?
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Now?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
He was essentially saying with this dude scrolled on there
and I know that it's hackery, because I promise you
if this had been about, oh.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
How far would five points be from there? Five point?
They have a five points in Minneapolis too.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
It's basically where the Somali neighborhood and all the moths
are and the religious schools. So let's say that was
over there. I don't know, maybe about three miles from
where this is. Let's say they were over there and
it was one of the Islamic schools up there, and
somebody came there and they started shooting through the windows
and they killed two kids, and they wounded ten others
and four staff.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Or whatever the number was.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I promise you there is zero chance that the mayor
of Minneapolis, Jacob Fray, shows up at the scene and says,
there they were.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
They were having you know, Eve.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Afternoon prayer or whatever, and they were praying to Allah
and it didn't matter in this.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Where's your ala?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Now?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I promise you that would not happen. Imagine a world
where that would happen.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
It doesn't exist.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
It doesn't exist because it was not the time, it
was not the place, and the dude just couldn't help himself.
And remember of Minneapolis, they'll snatch your kids if you
want to affirm their gender identity. Look it up. We'll
be right back. Little elements to discuss.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Is this this horrific, tragic story up in Minneapolis at
the the Catholic school there in South Minneapolis, and.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Just you know, there's a lot of the stuff that
we usually see. There are some unique aspects to this.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I think it's very interesting because of the way that
they chose that the shooter apparently has chosen to go
about putting their manifesto out there, and authorities don't have
the ability to essentially just keep it from everybody like
they did in Nashville, where you really get a glimpse
into this stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Has forced additional conversation. But it's also you know, it's
got all the other stuff where the media is covering
it and they literally are leaving little nuggets out to
make it look like the shooter was a Donald Trump fan.
The mayor of Minneapolis essentially mocking prayer, which would not
happen had this been in Islamic school, I promise you.
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So everyone defending this saying that's not what he means.
He wouldn't even utter the words had it been in
Islamic school. And that's the litmus test. Would this have
played out the same in each of the religious components.
If the answers no, then ask yourself why it went
in this direction.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
But basically, the you know.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
The preminent, well, these kids were literally in the act
of praying and they were gunned down.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Where's your God?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Now?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
It just kind of mirrors the attitude of the shooter.
It's really gross, really gross. And look, I understand, I
understand that like biblically people, people wrestle with this stuff.
It's not lost if you are in good faith, asking
how is it that God lets good or horrible things
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happen to good people? That's that's a question that I
think people, whether they're you know, religious or even not religious, can.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Have struggled with. And I understand it.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I get it, and I you know, anyone who's in
a position to as a pastor or a preacher, or
a priest, or a rabbi for that matter, or whatever,
I'm sure has had to counsel parishioners on that exact question.
But he's not asking it to learn, he's asking it
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so they can pivot over to the gun grab stuff
or or own the own the Republicans, because again I
run it through the filter of would he have asked
that in any other sense? And I just I don't
see it happening in the scenario that I laid out.
So that's where I'm at right there, and that's fine.
People have kay Ross and ever talking off the air man,
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like I don't remember this conversation, but I'll just give
you an example, like when you're when you're talking about kids, man,
I remember or I don't remember this, but I remember
my mom years later telling me about it, and she
was talking about how you know, you go you go
to the the little Bible study portion too that we
had for the kids there, and then you go to
the main mast.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
That's how we did it.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
And when I was very very young, we got into uh,
we got into.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Exodus, right.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
So I don't know if you know what's happening there
in Exodus, but it's the you know, it's all the
pharaoh stuff. And we got to the part at the
with the very last plague roster what the very last
plague was of Egypt there?
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Yeah, it involved the firstborn children.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Uh no, it was firstborn male children, right.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Well, guess what I am, Yeah, man, Apparently I came
home from that and was not doing well, and I'm
and she said that I came to the conclusion that
since my older cousins and eventually my sisters raised lambs,
because that's the only lambs that we had, that that
was my loophole. But like, it's just funny. It's funny
(37:29):
through the interpretation of kids like that. Through me, I'm like,
oh man, how often does that happen? What's going on there? So, like,
if people want to have legitimate conversations, that's good. That's
probably a good thing. I think the theory, the theory
that some people have too that sometimes bad things happen
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to have because people's attention needs to be drawn to things.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
I think that is a valid religious theory. And I
have a lot of thoughts and passion on this obviously,
you know. But so it's it gets the point where
like I'm sort of like so into it that I
have a hard time articulating what I want to say.
Like off there, it's different, but on here, I get
like nervous about it.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah, no, no, this is why I'm just proaching this generically,
because it's like, who the hell am I to talk
about these issues?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
And I'm not.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
But but no, no, no, no, but but but understand what
I'm saying. I'm saying that if people are talking about
because they're genuinely curious, that is a far cry from
what the mayor of Minneapolis is doing.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Oh no completely yet. And I agree about the wake
up call thing. I mean that's where I sort of
came down all by myself thinking about it, and the
mayor if he's going to go that down that road,
there's a big theological logical gap, right, and it's thinking
where why would? There are numerous occasions in the Bible
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where God uses a horrific event that was purposefully done
to be horrific by the wicked person, and he turns
that in the long run into a positive. The biggest one,
the most obvious one, is the ac is the murdering
and the killing of his only of his son. Right, Yeah, yeah,
like that's a big plot point. Yeah, that's sort of
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sort of a biggie. But there's other instances, over and
over again, somebody saying, you know, screw God, I'm gonna
do this horrible thing. I you know, I hate all
I'm gonna do this though, just to be evil, and
then God uses it long down the road to form
something positive. It happens all the time.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
And but again those are conversations for people who genuinely want.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
To have you can have them, and there's answers to
be found, right, I mean, the Book of Job is
all about suffering and why do what do these things
happen to good people? And on and on and on
and on, like theod Brothers selling brother into slavery man
like there's I mean, there's there's some really dark stuff
up in there. So yeah, but I mean, if you're
being honest, if he's really want an answer to his question,
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you can find them and you can find people that
can help you. But I like you're saying he's being dishonest,
he's not being genuine.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Nope, No, he is going full on.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
We got we got political achievements that we need to which,
by the way, is in and of itself evil. I
would point that out, so well, wicked, wicked if you
want to use that word. So, uh, you're you're you're
literally playing with fire, literally, Mark, what's up?
Speaker 14 (40:16):
Yeah? Just uh, yesterday I was listening to Glenn back
when all this brake, Yeah, and they said about uh
uh had killed Trump? Written on the magazine and the Rifle, Yes, sir,
and I called yesterday. I said, Uh, mainstream media is
gonna spend this. They're gonna say Trump's name was on
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the gun, but they're not going to have the context
together with it. And exactly will.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Come get your prize, sir, because he nailed at ABC News,
took the bait many couldn't.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
I called it.
Speaker 14 (40:49):
I mean, I was like, they're going to spend this.
They're going to spend this.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah, and uh they they've only just begun, you know,
an how we're into where Thank you for the call,
because there's a lot of people, even in the disgusting
partisan nature of how they'll interpret this, are still not
on board with going full you know, politics the day of.
But they'll dig in today and I'm sure CNN is
going to be mostly unwatchable, but you know, we'll round
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up whatever whatever we can find for you because the
story clearly isn't going away. All right, let me do
this coming up on the show, because we do have
some other stories we got to get into. We got
to Stephen Kent, by the way, our NERD correspondent, that'll
be an eight oh five, and we got to talk
about the.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Will Smith thing.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
The TV show Peacemaker, which I watched the first season
of Peacemaker.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
It's on HBO.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Max Ross hasn't watched it. Is it the best superhero series?
Speaker 14 (41:51):
No?
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Not necessarily was the first season? Okay, yeah, yeah, I
kind of think it was. I was, you know, it's
John Cena's Peacemaker, the suicide Squad, but you always the
anti hero.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
He's got an eagle, which is only like the baby.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
I was thinking about checking it out because everything I've
seen like, it's John Cena and the weird goofy sort
of help.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, and it's the story's a good one too. I
think the story is a good one. I don't want
to give it away if you haven't seen the first season.
So imagine my surprise last week when they uploaded the
season two and I watched that first episode and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Did I just put a porn in?
Speaker 4 (42:29):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
They decided to go and put a giant and this
thing is there. It isn't like there's no Austin powers
with strategically placed.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Things blocking any of the full frontal.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
They went for a full cocaine fuel minutes long, like
it's not just like a quick little hit, minutes long
orgy with nothing left to the imagination on a superhero
show that I suspect it's probably watched.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
I would think so, because that's not what I would
imagine by seeing the thumbnail. I thought it was like
a goofy, funny sort of you know, Marvel or DC whatever.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
They will tell you it's an R rated superhero, but
I would say the first season is only just.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
An R rated barely okay, so like The Punisher or
like not as bad because.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
It's not that gritty. It's meant to be comedic, I mean,
but it has the gritty moments, like I will tell you.
In the first season, he hooks up with this chick
which looks like an eighties club check, who turns out
to be in one of the bad people, and then
there's a there's a fight scene and there's a little
like side boob I guess in there, but it's like
they don't dwell on that, and it's it's made to
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be funny, is the only way to describe it. So
I could see where parents, if they watched it might say,
all right, even though it's R rated, I wouldn't mind
my fifteen year old watching this, but not that first
episode of season two. Game of Thrones didn't go that
hard in a scene like that.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
Really, it's worse than Game of Thrones game.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
There's a there's a couple scenes in Game of Thrones
that are kind of the big ones where people freaked
out over both of which are kind of orgy scenes,
and they didn't go as graphic. Because I watched all
the Game of Thrones, man, they didn't go as graphic
as this.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Do you think babyface Sina would have been against it?
But this is heal Sena or this is.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Clearly he'll see.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Okay, yeah, because the whole premise is he stood depressed
because people still don't really like him even though he
saved the world, and so he decides to go on
a cocaine marijuana bender and.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Then organize this this thing. That's the premise of it.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
It's anyway, we'll get into more of it with Stevie
because I don't understand the decision. And that's James Gunn
who just did Superman. That's his that's his project, So.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
We'll get into Oh and uh, we got to cancel
a TV show that I suspect many of you watched
back in the day. I'm sorry the New Yorker just
got around to it, and I don't make the rules,
so lots to get to Witcher calls as well. Eight eight, eight, nine,
three four seven eight seven to four hang on. Seventy
piles of cremated human remains mysteriously dumped in desert near
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Las Vegas raised questions or sparks investigations the way the
Post rode it. Uh, yeah you think, And no, to
answer your question, rus, they're not in barrels. They're literally
just little piles, seventy different piles and not little. It's
about the amount of ashes that come if you've ever
seen somebody cremated.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
The hell's going on?
Speaker 4 (45:31):
Remember they had this story where the lake was like, well.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Yeah, kept finding the bodies because Lake Bead was going down.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Yeah, Lake Mead, And they were like, how can we
keep finding all these bodies and barrels so here.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
That's so weird near the city that gangsters built, right,
I don't know, I wonder what it must be seventy
piles here, What where any of.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
The ashes that like, you know, have c ent around them?
Or no?
Speaker 1 (45:54):
No, I mean look at the I just texted you
the picture the articles. Look at the look of the text.
You can see how they're arranged. Oh yeah, it looks normal,
doesn't it. Yeah, clearly that they couldn't have been out
there too long because the wind did, they'd be gone right.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
So that's like, what's going on? Man? Is that? What's
happening to cheats?
Speaker 4 (46:15):
Now? Why does the belagio of that giant oven in
the basement?
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Well, actually, so that's funny you mentioned that. So you
know that the fake Eiffel tower there at New York
or whatever, it's actually a smokestacks. Oh okay, A lot
of people don't know that, so, uh yeah, that's creepy
as hell. Is there even speculation in here? An anonymous
source stumbled upon, Well, I don't know. Anonymous source might
(46:39):
be uh, I don't know, suspect number one upon an
arrangement of burned flesh and pularized bone here dirt road.
Have they confirmed their human? They keep saying cremated human.
So somebody, I guess is confirmed they're human. Yeah, the
Bureau of Land Management confirmed the ashes or human remains.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
What is going on?
Speaker 1 (47:07):
The individual non commercial scattering of cremated remains. So yeah, okay,
so what they're saying is it's legal to go out
to the desert and you know, flip mom into the
wind because she loved the desert or whatever. That's fine,
as we did with my well, not the desert, we
went with the mountains. But but yeah, yeah, that's way
too many.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Okay, all right, well we'll uh all right.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
So the only speculation is the story is they think
some somebody at a funeral home that well, why would
they do that. They've already done the work, so I
don't understand the financial motive.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
I'll be I can't wait to see what that turns
out to you. Joe Anne, good morning, what's up?
Speaker 15 (47:50):
Hey, Hey, good morning. I was just talking to Ross
about this whole thing. What's this horrible tragedy, And I
just wanted to point out I'm a Credo Catholic and
I'm sixty eight years old and practicing. But people will
say that doesn't matter what religion or any religion, if
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he just falls, you love the Lord. We don't say that,
we don't. We don't say why to God let this happen?
It was because we know God had nothing to do
with it.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
No, no, no, no, don't we know, But don't misunderstand. I'm
not saying people who are devout Catholices. What I'm saying
is somebody from the outside looking in who may have
questions and genuinely wants to know. I think that that is.
Those are questions that people ask, and I think that
they're the people of faith. Talk to those people and
inform them, well, believe what they believe. That's what I'm saying.
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I just don't think the marriage good conscious that's true.
Speaker 15 (48:46):
That's that. And I wasn't saying I'm sorry. I wasn't
saying that. Three of my grandchildren got twenty one grandchildren.
Three of them their mother died tragically a little over
a year ago by her in hand, and their stepmother
called me and said, why God dolet this happen? And
I told her, I said God didn't do this. I said,
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God was there with her when it happened. I said,
but that was her choice, just like it was a
shooter's choice to go and do this. That's I guess
that's the point I'm trying to make. I don't care
what face you are to well, even if you don't
go to church, you don't have to go to Church
of the Lord. But I just want to put it
out there that the people who have great faith, that's
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not something we say. And yes, we are there to.
Speaker 14 (49:34):
Talk to people.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
I could just talk about this shooting thing and we'll
still take your calls on it, for sure, But we
got a few other stories we got to get into.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
Let me see here there we go.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
So this arrest that was made in Durham, right, and
you might have flipped right over it over the headline,
like I kind of did last night because I was
just innundated with trying to put together all this stuff
having to do with what happened to Minneapolis. But in
Durham yesterday they arrested a guy by the name of
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David Taylor. And David is the cult leader. I'll go
ahead and use that word, because this thing sounds super culty.
But he's described as a church leader out of Tampa,
and the FBI conducted a multi state raid arresting Taylor
as well as his partner, Michelle Brannon. I believe she
(50:31):
was arrested in Tampa or in Florida. He was arrested
in Durham. And when you start digging into this church
man and what the accusations are.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
It gets real dark, real quick.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Bedole and state authorities across the country conducted raids of
properties connected to the Kingdom of God Global Church, formerly
known as Joshua Media Ministries.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
The church leaders were.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Indicted Wednesday on allegations of using forced labor to solicit
millions and donations, which of course were then used for
fun stuff like jet ski's and vacation houses.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
And all sorts. And it wasn't a small amount.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
I think they've raised like fifty million dollars. So how
did this guy become the church leader? Well, you don't
have to look far. You can literally go to the
church's website. According to the Kingdom of God's website, Taylor
claimed to have a face to face encounter with Jesus
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who appeared to him in a dream when he was seventeen,
and then continued he was living quote a worldly lifestyle
and then kept appearing to him in the dreams over
the years, which eventually led him to become a minister.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Okay, so far, that's.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
You know, that's that's not that's not a unique story
if yeah, you go historically through the Christian faith. But
here's where it gets a little different. He then decided
that he's essentially Saint Peter. And if you don't know,
with Saint Peter, there is a moment in the Bible
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where Jesus confers authority onto Saint Peter, the King's the
keys to the Kingdom of Heaven. Well, according to Taylor,
when Jesus finally did show up, he decided to give
him the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven, and this
is where things get crazy. Taylor also said that he
is Jesus's best friend, he's his bestie and and Jesus
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considers him his bestie. So that of course sets up
the scenario where, Hey, you want to you wanna fast
line to Heaven, you better hang with me and do
what I say, because I'll just call my boy Jesus
and it'll either go well for.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
You or it won't.
Speaker 4 (52:47):
You know, first off, I want to forgive you for
spoiling that part of the book for me. Haven't gotten
there yet.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
But also, you know this guy, it's different because typical
boiler alert. Typically these people all believe that they're Jesus,
like I am Jesus. I never heard of Saint Peter before.
It's different. What's that like, somebody thinking there's Saint Peter.
I've never heard that before.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Well, he doesn't think he's Saint Peter. He's the new
he's the new Saint Peter.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Okay, apparently God made an extra set of keys. I
don't know, right, Maybe there was a two for one
over at the locksmith.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (53:18):
I don't know, right, right, So he's in charge of
the gate.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
Yeah, he's to the Kingdom of Heaven. Interpret that how
you will.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, I'm sorry, yes,
spoiler whoopsie so so so anyway, so he's best, he's
I don't know if they text a lot, if they
if they game together, or what he's implying.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
But he then.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Parlayed that into let's see, see, here's the powers that
the keys provide. By the way, this does not track biblically.
This is his interpretation according to According to him, his
best friend Jesus gave him the keys, which then gives
him the authority to creed, declare and break the rules
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of demonic kings, princes and strongholds, and bring the kingdom
and move of God to the masses. That's straight from
their website. There he had a few pet projects. He
claimed that his presence and prophecies were connected to drug bus,
sex trafficking bus and even that Jesus had tasked him
with the reunification of North and South Korea. Well, come on, man,
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that's your friend. That's your buddy who tasked you with that?
God a friend?
Speaker 5 (54:31):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (54:34):
So this guy?
Speaker 3 (54:35):
My point is this dude's got a pretty high opinion
of himself.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
The website also stated that he was connected to Hollywood,
having mentored several actors, including Tyler Johnson and Richard T.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
Jones.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
Who tried to look up but I kind of see
who that. I recognize who they are.
Speaker 3 (54:53):
Let's see here, where's the one real there's the one
really crazy part. Oh, the human trafficking. Let's get into this.
Speaker 1 (55:00):
In the Department of Justice, investigators found the Kingdom of
God Global Church was in fact a perpetrator of large
human trafficking operations that span multiple states like Michigan, Florida, Texas,
and Missouri. According to the indictment, Taylor and Bann established
call centers in these states, and anyone who was a
member of the church who worked at a call center
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was known as an armor bearer. Armor bearers were the
personal servants who fulfilled tailor's demands around the clock, but
in a variety of different ways. So you had armor
bearers that worked these call centers, and the call centers
were exactly what you think they would call and they
would solicit people for donations, and again they took in
like fifty mil. You had other armor bearers that would
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essentially be, you know, just lackeys who would you know,
drive Taylor around, also drive the people they were trafficking around.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
And at these centers, if you did not.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
Perform, he would withhold food according to the alligations he
would They weren't allowed to leave. They slept basically at
the call center or what were known as adjacent ministry houses,
and they would bunk up like six to a bedroom.
Speaker 4 (56:10):
It kind of sounds like scientology stuff a little.
Speaker 7 (56:13):
Bit, a little bit.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
And then he had there was another form of servitude
among the female armor bearers.
Speaker 4 (56:22):
Ross.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
Do you want to guess what the order of servitude
was from among some of the female They Yeah, they.
Speaker 4 (56:28):
Made the sandwiches, they washed the dishes a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (56:32):
A little bit more, little more.
Speaker 4 (56:34):
They sowed, They sowed the clothes lot a hem in there,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (56:39):
Like anyway, they were a sex legs. Yeah yeah, And
in fact, according to some of the according to the indictment, uh,
they and they, and it wasn't just one or two
at a time.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
They would drop like a busload of female armor bearers
off and then according to documents, because I guess they've
got some tads some witness testimony, they would then pick
the women up the next day and they were required
to go make all the women take Plan B, which
obviously tracks with a Christian mindset there.
Speaker 4 (57:15):
So it's weird. It's weird how it always goes down that,
like you know, hey, I'm gonna have sex with your
wife sort of thing with these cult leaders. David Koresh
was the same way.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
Oh yeah, man, oh yeah, that is weird. That keeps happening.
Jim Jones was doing that too, man, I know, we're
all shocked.
Speaker 4 (57:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
So they would also traffic women for those purposes. I
don't know if there's any allegations women are under age,
but yeah, you get the gist there, and there's a
lot more.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
You should read the whole article.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
And what happened all that money sounds like, you know,
clearly property they have some properties and stuff, but like,
I don't know that any victims.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
Are gonna get renumerated. But this thing was out of control.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
Yeah, prosecutors say that they took the charitable donations and
spent them on luxury properties, vehicles, boats, ATVs and jet
skis pretty classic scam there, man, just awful and real quick.
We got a canceling for you.
Speaker 3 (58:15):
We'll do that right on the heels.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
I had not thought about this in this way, but
luckily the New Yorker is here for us.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (58:24):
I don't have the full thing because it's not a paywall,
but I got the gist of their articles. So what
classic television show was canceled? We hell you ready, it's
one of It's one you probably should have seen coming right.
Speaker 3 (58:37):
Never sat right with me? You're ready? The Golden Girls? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yeah, rechro What did the Golden Girls go off the air?
Even that didn't make it out of the What did
that make it out of the eighties?
Speaker 3 (58:54):
Why we're getting around to it. Well, a couple things.
Speaker 1 (58:57):
One, apparently the Golden Girls are a little too right leaning.
Speaker 4 (59:01):
I've seen this before in social media where people are
saying that like, yeah, they lean more to the right,
and their example of it was it was be Arthur's
character and it's like, who.
Speaker 3 (59:11):
Was the liberal ex school teacher?
Speaker 4 (59:13):
Yeah, And it was one of the first few episodes
of Not like the first episode and she's in the
kitchen talking about how she had to, you know, discipline
one of her students for having green hair and how
she was like a freak and a weirdo. And it
was crazy because at the time that character was considered
to be left or progressive. But now they're like, oh,
b Arthur was base. We had to cancel the show, right.
Speaker 3 (59:31):
Well, luckily it's more than that.
Speaker 1 (59:33):
Is funny though, because it's the whole Overton window thing, right, right,
or how how things have changed? But no, no, no, no,
there's there's one other aspect to it, and that's the
doozy here and then I just.
Speaker 3 (59:46):
Flipped away from it. Why did I do that?
Speaker 6 (59:48):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (59:49):
Here we go here.
Speaker 1 (59:50):
Let me just read the part I can read. Loss
of Independence is the repressed horror that haunts the Golden Girls.
It conjures a fantasy of old age that is largely
free of ch but also largely free of doctors providing
an inaccurate representation of what it means to get older.
Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
It's this is the thing.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
So you on a sitcom and I'm I'm sure they
went to the doctor in the sitcom.
Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Sure that was played in there. You don't.
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
This is like you don't tune in the Fresh Prince
of bel Air and watch will Go number two?
Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
You know, but it's also complete garbage. We recently went
through a binge of watching The Golden Girls. Yeah, because
that's what you do, and there are health scares in
that show. They have children that visit in that show.
The fact is that they're retired in Florida and it's
a sitcom.
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
People, Yeah, you don't see all the things that they do.
And I just used kind of the stark example there,
but you can just assume the other stuff is happening,
but it's not part of the storyline.
Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
So are we so out of things to cancel? We
had to go back and get The Golden Girls.
Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
It's like when I was upset watching Reacher because like,
you know, he's a big bodybuilder and they never show meeting.
It got so frustrated, right, yeah, yeah, where's wires? Is
p Yeah, it's been like three weeks and he hasn't
worked out once. Like, you can't have that body and
not eat that amount of protein. Like what are we
doing here?
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Yeah, that's a good point. All right, raced agent from
the Weather Channel. You never see him work out.
Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
But nope, but he does. He tries the games. Are there?
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
Man? Man?
Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
It's Thursday, tomorrow's squeezebox Friday, So we're excited about that.
Speaker 16 (01:01:22):
Yeah, got a got a nice, appropriate, appropriate song already
picked out?
Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
Oh good, okay, Yeah, is it the Golden Girls theme?
Speaker 16 (01:01:31):
No, it's not the Golden Girls, it's it's related to
let's just say it's a sports related theme heading up
into a big, big college football weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Is this the Clemson fight song?
Speaker 16 (01:01:42):
No, that's that's too difficult to play. I can't play
Tiger rag. Okay, So all.
Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Right, well, well all right we'll wait.
Speaker 16 (01:01:49):
Yeah, baited breath, can't wait. Yeah, this is must listen
radio right right now, right now, right now, or everybody
set your clocks. But weatherwise, it's a nice treat and
it continues. We get a little milder tomorrow, upper seventies,
low eighties today, see quite a bit of cloud around.
We'll see more sun maybe this afternoon, but then tonight
we will clear upper fifties, low sixties across the area.
Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Low eighties, mid eighties.
Speaker 16 (01:02:14):
Tomorrow, nice sunny day, might see a touch of humidity,
but really not much before the next front comes through.
And for the holiday weekend, mostly to partly Sunday. I
think each day we'll see a lot of sunshine, except Sunday,
where there may be a little bit more cloud in
the mountains. There might be a shower thunder shower over
the weekend, but it's a low to mid eighties overnight
low's upper fifties, low sixties, and I think this dry
sunny weather we'll continue into early next week, even after
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the holiday.
Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Okay, all right, thank you, sir, appreciate it. We'll talk
in an hour and we will be right back hanging out.
I kind of delved into the sometimes God is trying
to send a message that maybe this would be an
appropriate follow up story.
Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Ross. Did you see what happened at burning Man yesterday?
Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
You know you saw that that's going on because all
these people were stuck out of the mud in the desert,
which is pretty much an annual thing.
Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
Yeah, I never miss it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
So freak windstorm the orgy dome blew away?
Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Yeah, yeah, I just took the old orgy. Now, I
don't know that there was. It sounds like there wasn't
an orgy going on at that moment.
Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
But that would have been That would have been awkward,
yeah or or or yeah, maybe they've been into it
and if it was big enough, maybe it wouldn't have
blown away.
Speaker 7 (01:03:24):
So yeah, h.
Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
So is that a message? I don't don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
Did the dome like flow away and then the you know,
the lightning strikes came?
Speaker 7 (01:03:36):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
I just said it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
There was torrential rains that followed, so yeah, you had
the big storm and then torrential rains. So yeah, it
sounded a little uh, sounded like it was a little
more than just a windstorm.
Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Was a peacemaker there?
Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
I don't see peacemaker. I do see a bunch of dudes,
shirtless dudes run around trying to hold it, but unsuccessfully
because let's face it, if anyone's pumped about the orgy,
it's going to be the guys, right, because they're just dudes, Like, no, no,
not the orgy dome but yeah, blew away like a
bouncy house at a coastal kid's birthday party.
Speaker 7 (01:04:09):
Man, well, let's see here, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Appuple are posting Bible verses on it verse Peter four
to three unrestrained behavior, evil desires, drunkenness, orgies, carousing, and
lawless idolatry.
Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Nailed it.
Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Yeah, so again, pretty bad windstorm there. I'll tell you
what I didn't see this year, and I'm kind of sad.
Do you remember last year with the eco moon bats
in the road who forgot their res police are different
than regular police and learned the hard way.
Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Do you guys remember that video?
Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Or they were blocking the entrance on they were blocking
a highway and then eventually the entrance to Burning Man.
And the difference is that it wasn't Nevada State patrol
that rolled up. It wasn't even one of the local
towns police. It was the res police. Yeah, I remember
that the Indians don't play. They don't play.
Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
I told you.
Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
One of the things that my mom was adamant about,
because I had friends who lived up on the reservation
up there north of Rnchester, is that I remember that
I'm not in Wyoming or Montana anymore because the resid
is technically Montana, but I yeah, she would. She drove
that point home and we got thrown off the Res
one night because we had some beers in a car
(01:05:30):
and even like two of us were not man and
they just like, all right, you got to get out
of here.
Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
And we didn't argue.
Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Because the Res police do what the Res police once,
and the Res police there in Nevada, they just went
cause remember they just drove right through the middle of
their stupid little barricade and everyone's screaming.
Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
We're non violent, We're non violent.
Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
They didn't drive over them, They just drove through all
their stuff and then arrested them.
Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
So they weren't playing that this year, just having their orgy.
Don't blow away. Now do they get it reassembled?
Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Yeah, it doesn't look like they. Oh it destroyed it too.
Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Yeah, now you're gonna have to have everything outside, I
guess in the mud.
Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
So have fun with have fue with all of that.
Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
In just a moment, we're gonna chat with Stephen Kent.
He is our official NERD correspondent. If you guys don't
know the Will Smith story, we'll get into that be
a little more rapid fire version than we normally do.
With our official NERD correspondent, Stephen Kent, who is positively
giddy over.
Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
The Tayte engagement. How are you doing this morning, sir.
Speaker 6 (01:06:40):
I'm doing all right. I am filled with vibrant some
joy at the coming wedding of our Queen Taylor Taylor Swift.
It's going to be exciting.
Speaker 14 (01:06:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Are you a football guy? I don't know. Do you
have a Do you watch a lot of NFL?
Speaker 6 (01:06:52):
Or I host a YouTube channel called Geeky Stoics. Do
you think I watched football?
Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
I mean I had to at least be polite, did
ask so? But the Chiefs games are going to be
unwatchable this year, so if you do accidentally stumble.
Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Upon one, good luck with that.
Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
So it is crazy though. I was looking at some
statistics and because even though we don't have to care
about that, somebody wrote a pretty good piece and they
were talking about marriage rates and birth rates as it
pertained in the UK to both Charles and Diana back
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in the day, and then Prince William to a lesser extent,
and basically like when these big almost royal esque weddings
or God forbid, somebody gets Pregger's a bunch of mindless
sheep follow man, and I want to get in on that. So,
like the amount of women that are probably wanting to
be engaged during this time because you live vicariously, and
(01:07:51):
the fact that they want this wedding to look like
a royal wedding, I don't know what that says about
our society.
Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
Is that just is that fan worship or isn't harmless?
Speaker 6 (01:08:01):
I mean, sheep and shepherds is a real thing. I
was just watching old episodes of Law and Order SVU
last night and there's this episode I went back over
where Robin Williams play is a criminal who is basically
obsessed with making people not be sheep and not follow
and do what they're told, but he generally believes that
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they do. And this is something that Ben Shapiro at
The Daily Wire had noticed that same article that you
did about Princess Diana. Folks look to role models and
superstars and celebrities for how they should live their lives.
And if Taylor Swift is going to be getting married
and stand up for the general institution of marriage have children,
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there's going to be a Taylor Swift baby boom, because
people do look up to these individuals and say, well,
this is what they're doing, this is what I'm going
to do. And so that's just why we criticize certain
role models and pop stars who live these lives of
being atomized into visuals and single cat ladies until they're
sixty years old and still going out there and doing
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shows as if they're thirty. This is not a way
we want people to live their lives. And there are
young people watching.
Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
But Shapiro's point was, is that necessarily a negative thing?
Because right now there's a lot of conversation about declining
verse rates, declining marriage rates. So yeah, yeah, and so
it's if you achieve your goal, it's not necessarily for
the right reason. Is it okay to go, oh, that's
a good thing. My question is, let's say that it
falls apart as many of her relationships have done, other
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than probably putting the number one album out, like do
then women go, you know what, I don't want to
be married anymore? And what does that horror look like?
And I understand I'm kind of projecting a little here,
or not projecting being a Native community on this stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
But I don't know that I'm wrong.
Speaker 6 (01:09:49):
He want people to do things for the right reason.
You know something that C. S. Lewisy's to write about
this and it comes up. You know, he's the guy
who did the Chronicle Narnia, and he has a couple
other philosophical books, and he's one of these thinkers who
really advocates that in the screw Tape Letters, that marriage
should not really be about love, that it has to
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be about other things, duty to God, commitment, and just
sort of a belief in the institution itself, and that
love will be a byproduct of marriage. This is a
very very countercultural notion today, and the whole Taylor Swift
thing is going to promote generally the idea of the
perfect romance, the fairy tale story. She tweeted about how
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it's the English teacher marrying the gym coach and this
is a great story, but what do we learn if
it goes awry. It's not as if celebrities don't often
get divorced and move on to second and third husbands
and wives. So there's going to be a lesson here
down the road about what we do when love is
not there. When the fairy tale is not as romantic
(01:10:56):
as you thought it was going to be. And these
are not things you're going to learn from celebrities, not
going to be something you learned from Taylor Swift. You
generally would learn these kind of things from your parents.
Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
And yeah, yeah, you would think our friends around you. Now,
I get it, all right, let me let me go
over to this.
Speaker 15 (01:11:12):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
I know that normally we're sitting here and we're kind
of bashing on some of the new media offerings that
are more in the you know, in the in the
nerd genre. But let's talk about Peacemakers. So I watched
the first season a Peacemaker. I wouldn't say it's my
favorite series I've ever seen, but I thought it was Okay,
I thought I for what it was going for Peacemaker.
(01:11:35):
It's the you know, the anti hero, clearly a suicide
squad member. There's you know, a little backstory, but you
don't need the backstory, and yes, is it is it?
Is it in an adult fashion? Absolutely? They don't make
any bones about it. It's rated TVM A or whatever.
And there was a scene earlier in the first season
where he hooks up with a Wet'll just say an antagonist,
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and but it's pivotal to the story and there's a
little bit, a little bit of nudity there but not really.
Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
And the thing plays out.
Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
And I thought the storyline of season one was okay,
So imagine my shock when I was like, oh, season
two is here, let's open this, and I am treated
to a full frontal minutes long, cocaine fueled orgy that
arguably Game of Thrones.
Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Didn't do an orgy scene that was as graphic as this.
Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
And the reason I'm a little concerned is I think
if I had a teenager I thought was mature, like sixteen,
but was pretty mature.
Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
And into that, I might have let them watch the.
Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
First season of Peacemaker, because there's nothing vilely offensive about it.
But you go into this James Gunn project, who's just
coming off Superman, and you begs the question, why would
you do that?
Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Why would you do this?
Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:12:53):
You know, this is DC trying to crank out their
own Deadpool, you know, Ryan Reynolds Deadpool over on the
Marvel Side is very much a mature comedy, mature sexually
and violent based show. It's very funny, and John Cena
is essentially doing the same thing over on the DC side. Now,
(01:13:18):
I saw this stuff about the season two premiere of Peacemaker.
You know, it does kick off, like you mentioned, with
a sexually explicit orgy, full frontal nudity, all this kind
of stuff. I would never have expected them to go
there with this character or this franchise. But I do
have to point back to Deadpool because I'm looking over
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this and I'm going, well, Deadpool, I mean that movie
kicked off its first film with sex scenes that were
basically just right out of like you know, here's five
pages of the Kama Sutra with him and his.
Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
Love and right and the sucker and very.
Speaker 6 (01:13:57):
Yeah, very explicit and even down to you see a
lot of stuff. I mean, you don't see Ryan Reynolds
full frontal. But I don't think that that. I don't
think that that is the metric of how bad a
sex scene can be in a in a comic book story.
I mean, there are tons of kids who watch Deadpool movies.
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Deadpool is very popular, He's a well known ip and
those films go into some really dark and bizarre places
which I don't even feel comfortable talking about on radio
when it comes to this stuff. So it's for me.
I'm going, all right, Peacemaker is DC's same spent on
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this this kind of genre, and I'm going to give
them some space to do it. But I don't want
to watch it. I mean I don't want to watch it.
I just don't think it's that I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
Want to watch it. I enjoyed Did you see the
first season? Did you watch the first season?
Speaker 6 (01:14:51):
I peeked in on a couple of episodes, but it
didn't it didn't draw me in.
Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Yeah, okay, Yeah, Like I said, it wasn't. It wasn't
the greatest thing I ever seen. But I actually if
I enjoyed some something enough that I would go seek
out the second season rather than waiting for it to
populate just because I was curious, and generally is a
good thing.
Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
It doesn't happen that often, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
So, speaking of dark stuff there is this is one
of those questions that haunts anyone who's coming up with
something new.
Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
And I don't care whether it's.
Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
A kid's game, if it's a product that's going to
be sold in stores, a fidget spin or something, there's
going to at some point there's gonna be a team
of lawyers they're gonna sit around and they're going to
figure out what is our liability of things go sideways here? Right,
That's what the lawyers do. That's their job. That has
to be immeasurably difficult. When we get into AI and
(01:15:38):
I told this story yesterday, let me just give you
the cliff notes. There was a young man who back
in April took his own life. He hung himself with
the news. But he had been trending in this direction
for a while. He had suffered health setbacks. Removed from
the basketball team, he was essentially home bound, and so
he started incorporating Chad GPT into his studies since he's
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now learning at home. And then he started talking to
it like it was his friend. And he started confiding
in Chad GPT that he had suicidal thoughts. And at
first chat GPT's like, you need to talk to somebody.
Then he tried to hang himself unsuccessful, and he had
rope burns around his neck, and Chad GTP coaching on
how to hide those. So now we're into the weird thing.
(01:16:19):
And then eventually, on the faithful Day, he crafted a
news clearly, I guess a better news than the previous
one which had failed ran it by Chad GPT, who
complimented on the job that he did, and then he
hung himself and now the parents are suing. Okay, yeah, yeah,
so what the hell do you do here?
Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
Man?
Speaker 6 (01:16:38):
Oh? This is I mean, this is a really tough one.
I just wanted to point out. In the New York
Times story, the part that really disturbed me was he
had suggested, after crafting this news that he wanted to
leave it out in his room quote so someone would
find it and try to stop him. So basically suggesting,
you know, I'm doing a cry for help here. I'm
(01:17:00):
going to leave it out for somebody to find it,
and then shat GBT says, quote, please don't leave the
noos out. Let's make this space the first place where
someone actually sees you. So basically saying this is our
little secret and nobody knows me like you do. This
is devouring mother kind of insanity. And it reveals that
(01:17:22):
these AI models, you know, they're not intelligent, They're not
able or trained to make value statements. They are completely
devoid of any value system. That's that's why when you
try to write with these things and do creative writing,
they just can't take opinions. They try to make every
point under the sun liability. I mean, this is a
(01:17:44):
black hole. I don't see how you reach a resolution
here short of having adult accounts and child accounts, with
child accounts having the same kind of parental controls and
notification systems that you might get through a Google Suite
or you know, YouTube kids. But even YouTube kids is
kind of a mess.
Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Yeah. Well, and here's the thing. Uh, that's that does
make sense. But here's the problem.
Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
I still don't want chat GTP contributing, our GPT contributing
to twenty five.
Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
Year old's suicide. Yeah right, even if there's not parents.
Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
Necessarily to sue, although maybe they would, the goal should
be not having it in any way, shape or form
help you on your your downward spiral to the you
know this this kind of decision.
Speaker 6 (01:18:29):
So yes, and that requires yeah, I mean that this
is I mean, this is the thing, and I obviously
I want it nersed. Obviously from a value position, I
want chat, GPT and other ais to have a view
of human life that it is valuable and to be
honored and worth protecting. But there's not going to be
(01:18:52):
a way to really have these things be I suppose,
like neutral feedback sources for any subject, if you code
into it that all human life is sacred and must
be protected and all that kind of stuff, and it
stops you from suicide. And then it also cranks out
the same value system when it comes to talking about
(01:19:13):
the pro life versus pro choice debate from a public
policy perspective, you're just not going to be able to
get it, and so you get this horrible, almost demonic neutrality,
which would push somebody in this direction. It's really really scary. Again,
I don't know what there's a solution here, because even
if you keep it neutral and there's an alert system,
(01:19:36):
you're talking about having an alert system that goes to
the authorities based on the kind of thing that you
search for and conversate about, it could save somebody's life.
But then all you have to do is tweak it,
and then it's alerting the authorities for a politically incorrect
opinion or something like that.
Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
You know happened.
Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
We didn't get into it. But there is a system
that monitors school devices. And there's a horrible story Nashville.
I don't know if you saw this where this girl
made a joke because her friend called her Mexican because
she looks she looks, you know, she has the kind
of the complexion. And she said, kill the Mexican meet
and when she was referencing, is to kill the joke,
like we got to kill this line of jokes.
Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
And they she was at her.
Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Life got turned upside down because no adult wanted to
weigh in and make a judgment call here. They pulled
her out of the school, They put her in solitary confinement,
They stripped search or she's like fifteen. They wouldn't let
the parents here for an extended period of time. They
suspended her. They then put an anklet on her, made
her stay in her house. They ran all of this,
and even the judge was like he called her and
(01:20:38):
he called her the R word or suspected she might be.
It's an insane story we talked about here a few
weeks ago, all based on a judgment call AI made
that no human wished to attempt to look at.
Speaker 6 (01:20:53):
I'm going to be looking this up when we got
off the off the line here, because I haven't heard
this one, but I get you, yeah, yeah, And that's
a good example. I mean, just even here in this
story from the New York Times. There's the question of, oh, well,
you know Chad, GBT and open AI, they all need
human moderators to go over this stuff. Well, we've been
down that road before with all of the social media platforms,
(01:21:16):
and they're so called neutral enlightened moderators who go over
content and then basically put their thumb on the scale
for the twenty twenty election. You know, this kind of
stuff is never going to stop. And I've argued many
times that the solution to biased political activists and moderation
(01:21:39):
is in fact, neutral AI. But then you get back into.
Speaker 14 (01:21:43):
Where we started.
Speaker 6 (01:21:44):
The neutral AI can't make value judgments and pushes people
to kill themselves.
Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Yeah, and you know, maybe the use of AI is
because a lot of people don't realize how much AI
is being used in the periphery. It's not necessarily when
you interact with it. It's being used when you do
things like you make a searches on a travel side.
There's a lot of AI at work nowadays, so we
we we yet to know all the different ways it
may screw with us.
Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
But we'll have to leave it there for today because
I am just out of time, man, So I'll find
I'm gonna find that article from a few weeks ago
and send it to you. It's it's it's really dark.
Uh and and.
Speaker 6 (01:22:20):
Always always a new dystopia every time we talk.
Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Yeah, absolutely, all right, there you go, Stephen Ken joining
us here on the cac O Day radio program. Thank
you to him.
Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
I didn't get to the Will Smith story, so Ross
and I will carve that up coming up in just
a few minutes. Plus, I just saw this, Ross, were
you were you aware that Nicholas Cage is starring in
a new horror movie about Jesus? Okay, I just I
just learned this right now, we'll digest hang.
Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
On or four, hold on one two. I was a
few more than that.
Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
It was one two free, so it was it was
a handful of games going back last Saturday. That's called
you know, week zero. Now we're into it Week one.
College football, that's getting that's getting rolled. Ross, who do
you like tonight? Of the about twenty seven thousand games
there are, there's only two eights wolf Pegs. Yeah, so
(01:23:16):
wolf Pack ECU. And by the way, there's some bad
blood there if you don't y'all don't remember. However, one
season ended last year so there's two State players who
cannot play for the first half because of their rejection
from the Military Bowl, which was against ECU. So ew yeah,
(01:23:37):
and that's only one of them is a starter, but
he is kind of the stud nose tackle.
Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
And then they have a guy on the defensive side
and I can't remember the excuse me, yeah, on the
offensive side who I don't believe is a starter this year,
so I guess that will be less impactful. But yeah,
losing your nose tackle for half of your season opener
against the team that beats you last year at the
end of the season, that'd be some bad blood.
Speaker 4 (01:24:04):
Boy.
Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
I bet the tailgate lot's going to be crazy later.
Speaker 7 (01:24:09):
We'll see, we'll see, Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
So yeah, that's going on. Everyone's getting all jazzed up.
The other acc is Duke, and I think it's at Duke.
It's Elon coming to Duke, which happens every year or so.
I don't know if it's every year. It feels like
it's every year. But either way, that's what's up. And
then you know, then we'll be Then they got more
games Tomorrow, you got Wake Forest is playing Kennesas State.
Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
That's at Wake Forest. Is there another ACC game tomorrow? Oh, well,
you got app State playing Charlotte and that's a Bank
of America Stadium in Charlotte, So that'll be a big deal.
In fact, I know some guys are going down for
that right there and then just fully into it. Man,
Saturday is just gangbusters. So h Saturday, I guess the
(01:25:02):
big game everyone's watching on Saturday is gonna be the
uh the Texas Ohio State number one versus number three. Now,
I've been reading a lot of stuff saying that Texas
is so opeed at every position that if you're number
two or number three, it almost it almost doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
You read that every now and then, and then injuries happen,
and people people, uh, you know, miscalculate things.
Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
So I will wait and see, we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
But yeah, So if you're if you if you love
some college football, uh, it's it's right into it today
and they're playing all the games in America.
Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
I think.
Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
So that's good.
Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
NC double A doing your first game of the year
for college football in Ireland or anywhere outside the US.
Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
What the hell is that? That's the thing that happened
last week.
Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Uh and then eventually, uh, you know, Carolina, they'll get underway. Sorry,
I probably should have had I just have the main
list out here.
Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
I should have had all the specifics on the various
start times for Saturdays games brought broken down by acc
but I did not. I was irresponsible because this isn't
really a sports show at the end of the day,
but it is, you know, the week of college football
kicking off. We can see the Bill Belichick machine, which,
by the way, I thought this was interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
So apparently.
Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Apparently they had University of North Carolina football head coach
Bill Belichick and his girlfriend Jordan Hudson have applied for
some trademarks. H Okay, some of them makes sense. Chapel Bill.
That's you know, that's kind of what they're calling. Although
there is a fake There was a fake Twitter account
(01:26:44):
that had like way too many followers because people are
idiots and they didn't figure out it wasn't him and
they were playing into that. But yeah, Chapel Bill, the
be illustrator Trail of Salty Tears. But the one that's
really funny is they filed for the trademark for the
term old digger as it pertained to producing jewelry and keychains,
(01:27:05):
which I do. I think that's kind of funny, man, Like,
you know, clearly his you know, clearly George's. Yeah, people
people fling that at her, So you might as as
well make some money off it.
Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
I don't care, you do you?
Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Man?
Speaker 5 (01:27:18):
So?
Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
But I also can you can you trademark? I guess
maybe if it's just for the purpose of a line
of jewelry, you can. I don't know, I you can
just trademark the word. It's too prevalent in our society.
But maybe so we'll see. Speaking of former connections to Massachusetts,
I saw this yet.
Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
I saw this this morning. It started laughing.
Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
So apparently the state of Massachusetts is wanting to redesign.
I don't know why these states are doing this. I
wanted to redesign their flag and their Great Seal. And
so what do they do? What you always do? You
ask the internet? Sure, yeah, absolutely, And they got so
many any possible submissions, in fact fully illustrated submissions for
(01:28:07):
what the new state flag should look like numbered over
one thousand, and then people voted on it. And I'm
starting to see some themes here, like there's one flag
that features the state dinosaur holding a Duncan Dons coffee
and just running one another suggestion that got a bunch
(01:28:27):
of votes and wants to change the state's flag colors
to the Dunkin Donuts colors. Okay, you guys like some
Duncan I get it. Uh, where's enough? Oh this one's obnoxious,
you're ready. One of the leading vote getters included the
(01:28:49):
three to twenty eight scoreboard, Right, so the scoreboard from
the super Bowl where the Patriots are three in Atlanta's
twenty eight and then obviously we know what happened after that.
So yeah, they're gonna they're voting for a lot of stupid.
The problem is is they it's strictly it clearly says
the seal flag and motto should reflect our history, our vibrant,
(01:29:10):
diverse community, the future we're building, as well as nature,
natural elements, things like that. I don't know what what
is the mat shoot it's known for from a nature perspective.
Cranberry's I think is the thing up there clearly the
ocean refer Oh dude, I just thought of a perfect one.
Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
Dude, I got ross.
Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
We got to do a submission. I have the perfect Oh,
this is gonna be so great.
Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
All right, you ready? All right? So check it. So
here's here's what we want to do. Dang it, dang it,
ding it?
Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Hold on, do do do do? I want to make
sure that I have this one accurate.
Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Oh dangn what is I can't type today here? Sorry,
It'll be totally worth it.
Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
Just hang on because I'm going to solve this for you, okay,
all right. So, because you want the nature component, you
want the ocean scape ross, here's what it is.
Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
You ready.
Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
It's that famous photo from.
Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
The bridge or just on the other side of the
bridge where you can kind of see the beach in
the background, and then underwater is a nineteen sixty seven
Old Smobile eighty eight, the Belma was it the Delmon
or whatever it is, right with Mary Joe inside and
then but then we'll have a deer drink and so
you get the more nature there. I think that'd be
(01:30:39):
a great state flag for you guys, really tell the
story of what's going on up there, or a have
to plate a football.
Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
We can have that on.
Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
The shoreline by where the Olds eighty eighty is under
the water with nobody trying to rescue her because they
didn't care and then got.
Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
Away with it.
Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
All right, So anyway, those are my suggestions, but I
suspect they won't take any And then finally, real quick
this and this is sad Man. So Will Smith who
put a music album out here a few months ago. It,
you know, got kind of mediocre reviews. I admittedly I
don't know if I know any.
Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
Songs from it. I'll be honest with you, so I can't.
Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
But yeah, I wasn't Will Smith even like I get
I was never getting jiggy with it, and I knew
where Miami was, so I didn't need anyone to tell
me other than that.
Speaker 3 (01:31:33):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
Like maybe going back to you know, when he first
came on the music scene, I recognized some of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
But that's fine. I still love me some Will Smith.
Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
I think everyone did. He was in all the movies
I've met him. When he was doing he was promoting
Seven Pounds, which was a movie he did. It was
kind of a Christmas release, and he was He literally
came into the radio station and just chilled.
Speaker 3 (01:31:57):
Just super nice guy.
Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
And you can kind of tell with these guys when
they bring people in what it's going to be like
like sometimes I won't even talk to you during commercial breaks,
won't even be in the room, just pop in, pop out.
Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
Uh Yeah. Will Smith was one of the nicest guys
I've ever met, so super so. Yeah, like one of
those things where you walk away and you're like, that's
a nice guy. And you're in a business where you
don't meet a lot of people like that.
Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
You don't and sometimes just because people are guarded and
I kind of get it.
Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
But no, he was conversational. He was nice real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
You forgot you were talking to a guy who's probably
one of the biggest movie stars in the country at
the time. And then that all changed man clearly with
what happened. And I think that with him, he's just
infatuated with this woman who clearly doesn't love him, like
you don't love somebody and do what she did, openly
talking about her she want to be with Tupac instead
of him, and then interviewing him about his own getting
(01:32:46):
cheated on by her with the son's friend. That's crazy
town and so and it just broke this guy. And
then it came to a head with the Chris Rock
moment out there, and it's just this whole brand that
he had cultivated so well, but also so it was
so genuine to him and at least in the time
that I got to interact with him, just flushed it
all away in one day.
Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
And now to put out the music videos to support
the music, apparently he had to. The accusation is they
had to render up a an AI crowd so that
you could see people really excited about him. The problem was,
you know how AI will give you a few extra limbs,
so and like he even some of the crowd are
(01:33:28):
crying like yeah, no, the Jesus, the Second Coming of Jesus.
Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
It's the people crying in the crowd. Well, well he
sings getting jiggy with it or Miami where you're like,
why what's going on here?
Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
Right?
Speaker 4 (01:33:38):
Like like he's Michael Jackson in his prime, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
Like that's just a further embarrassment.
Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
Or I have a possibility ross what if his one
of his demos he does really well with are people
born with limb deformities and tear duct issues?
Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
No, we're probably going AI.
Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
That's just I feel so bad, man, because I he
did anything. I mean, grant he slapped Chriss rock, but
he didn't do anything as overt as Cosby destroying what
was you thought an undestroyable legacy. But ah man, but yeah,
it looks pretty bad. All I raced agic. Would never
have to doctor up fans.
Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
He's got it on, yeah, all over the place.
Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
Yeah, they can't go anywhere killing it, killing it all right,
So h what's going on, sir?
Speaker 16 (01:34:24):
Good shape weatherwise, no rain of the forecast. If you're
heading to the mountains for the holiday weekend, there may
be a little bit, but for the most part we're
under high pressure. We'll get a front that will try
to approach us here as we look toward the middle
and second half of the weekend right now, not officially
putting any showers thunder showers in the forecast, especially triad,
(01:34:45):
but into the mountains there may be some. As we said,
it's gonna stay real comfortable, upper seventies, low eighties today,
maybe low to mid eighties tomorrow, so may actually get
a little bit milder with more sunshine around today. We
will see a little bit more sun as the day
goes on to already starting to see some breaks. The
weekend is going to be real nice, upper seventies, to
low eighties, with the warmest being on Saturday, when we
could sneak into the middle eighties. But even Labor Day
(01:35:08):
we're right around eighty degrees or either side of it.
And mostly Sunday. I think Sunday is the best chance
of maybe hit or misshower thunder shower somewhere, but I've
got to fine tune the details of that. Maybe tomorrow's
we get ready to get into a big travel day
tomorrow for the holiday weekend.
Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
Oh yeah, if you love big ones, ye have that
for you.
Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
All right, then sir, have a good one, okay, and
we'll come back with Jeff Bellinger next.
Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
Jeff, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
Well, Good morning, Casey.
Speaker 17 (01:35:31):
New data from Washington suggests the job market and the
economy in general are holding their own. The Labor Department
reports the number of new claims for unemployment benefits fell
by five thousand to two hundred and twenty nine thousand
last week, and another report says the economy grew at
a three point three percent annual rate in the second quarter.
(01:35:51):
And video shares down just a fraction now in pre
market trading after the tech giant post and its quarterly
results and vidio sales and profits set records, but investors
were not impressed with its forecast and executive with ubs.
Wealth Management has since told Bloomberg TV and Vidio's numbers
indicate the AI story is still intact. Best Buy posted
(01:36:14):
a bigger than expected adjusted profit for the second quarter.
The consumer electronics retailer reaffirmed its comparable sales forecast, saying
it believes it is trending toward the higher end of
the sales range, but Best Buy shares are down one percent.
Pre market investors are concerned about the impact of tariffs,
coffee lovers getting some unwelcome use today. The price of
(01:36:35):
coffee is already high and it will soon go higher.
Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
JM.
Speaker 17 (01:36:39):
Smucker says it plans to hike the price of its
Folgers and Cafe Bustello brand coffees to offset new tariffs.
The increases will take effect in early winter, and the
price of Robusta coffee beans, a cheaper variety mainly used
for instant drinks, is at a three month high because
of low inventories. In casey Utube blockout of Foxcom has
(01:37:00):
been averted, at least for now, YouTube says an extension
of the old carriage deal. We'll keep all of the
Fox channels on its streaming platform while negotiations continue.
Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
Casey, this is my least favorite game, and again I'm
just the fact that we now have to follow it
to streaming it is absurd.
Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
All Right, thank you much, Jeff, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (01:37:19):
All right, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
There you go, Jeff Fellinger, Bloomberg News. All right, a
few little quick hit stories. So I just saw, literally,
I just saw this headline this morning. I don't know
what's going on. There's a teaser trailer. It's not very long,
it's only twenty two seconds.
Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
Ross.
Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
Did you get a chance to watch this? I know
I sent it to that I did not. Yeah, Ross
is doing some other stuff. Basically, it's Nicholas Cage and
it's described as a Jesus themed horror movie called The
Carpenter Son. I think that there's a lot of imagery here.
The production quality and the costuming looks pretty spot on.
Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
I'm assuming he is the quote the Carpenter Son, I
E Jesus.
Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
There's a like this quick shot of the shroud of Turrens.
I don't know what's going on. In the description, it
says inspired by the Gospel of Thomas, the Carpenter's son,
tells the dark story of a family hiding out in
Roman Egypt, known only as the Boy, who is driven
to doubt by another mysterious child. Is that the anti
crime who knows, rebels against the guardian blah blah blah.
(01:38:21):
The Boy and his family become targets of horrors, both
natural and divine. I'd like to assume that Nicholas Cage
isn't going to go full blasphemy, right right, But I
don't know. It is not a two video release. It
is in fact high budget enough. It is scheduled for
a November release.
Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
Um let's see here, Yeah, in theaters in November. So
it doesn't say which day yet though, I don't know, Man,
we will see.
Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
And one other Hollywood news story, the rumors and the
storyline of Liam Neesen and Pam mel Anderson. We're in
a relationship, remember all that. Right as the Naked Gun movie,
which by the way, I've heard a lot of complimentary
things about. I have not watched it, but I probably
will watch it.
Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
It was never real. It was a marketing STU.
Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
Yeah, it was all fake.
Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
It was all fake. They knew that leaning into it.
Would it says right here, I'm just reading the Variety article.
Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
They knew.
Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
They're both pros who knew that leaning into the rumor
meant good pr and cooked up tickets.
Speaker 4 (01:39:28):
But that whole thing where he saved her from the
sheik in the boat, that was real, right. Are you
sitting down that? Oh yeah, obviously. But the second time
she was taken that.
Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Was oh yeah, clearly because the mom was taken too,
which I wasn't as upset about leonor No, she's awful. Yeah,
what were they going for there? I don't understand that, because,
like the stepdad was kind of an a hole, but
like he clearly took that. He really looked after the girl. Yeah,
I mean he got her a pony got it.
Speaker 4 (01:39:56):
Yeah yeah,