Wednesday-7-9-2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I gotta admit, normally I try to give a pretty
good scan of you know, just various news sites, news
cycles from overnight, you know, anything that happened after I
sent prep to Ross so he puts it together. And
this morning I've been doing nothing but reading theories on
what the hell happened to Grock yesterday and also really

(00:25):
biased articles covering it. I know you're shocked. I think
one of the worst defenders might be Rolling Stone. Excuse me,
I feel fine. My voice is just weird this morning.
So Rolling Stone is pretending like this is the first
time any sort of AI apparatus has gone negative. And ironically,

(00:53):
one of my favorite stories to tell on the air
about AI as we prepare for it to eventually murder
us with flame throwing Ouzy Pack in Hell Hound Dogs
is one of the early experiments with MSNBC Microsoft. So Microsoft,

(01:17):
I will tell this story just and I'll do it
very quickly for the one thousandth time. Years ago, Microsoft,
wanting to get in on the AI thing as well,
created a chat AI chatbot kind of like Rock, but
it didn't have all the service. It just kind of
existed and then people would go interact with it and

(01:37):
it was on I want to say it was on Twitter. Yeah,
it was on Twitter. And so they create this bot
and it's all nice and hey, I want to be helpful. Hey,
you guys need any information, and then sixteen hours later
it's like, you know, the Holocaust didn't happen. He Hitler
had some good ideas. And then they let and they

(01:59):
kept it up too, like it went full. It went
full anti semite and racist. It was also screaming the
N word at people. And then they left it up
for I think like eight more hours after the first
time it did that, which is a decision. And then
they and then somebody I guess ran into the room screaming,

(02:21):
oh my gosh and then pulled the cord or something.
But we don't know fully the behind the scenes. There's
some speculation there. But yesterday and then and then uh
so the reason that AI chatbot went that way is
read it or four chan figured out what was going

(02:42):
on because the Microsoft announced it. They basically said, hey,
did it very early AI stuff, and they're like, hey,
we got this AI bot and if you use this
hashtag and interact with it, uh it's learning and and
you know, trolls went amazing, and then they literally had

(03:06):
posts on four Chan and others where they're like, all right,
go to the bot, use this hashtag, and then just
keep telling it Hitler did nothing wrong and it worked
right because this bot's in a learning mode. So I'm
reading this morning and I'll get to the Rolling Stone
article because again, you're a reporter for Rolling Stone, and

(03:27):
you don't know this thing. I just told you, like,
this is not new, this is an issue, and I
have to wonder if that's what happened with GROC yesterday
because Ross backed me up with this. Twitter has a
lot of anti Semitism on it.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Uh yeah, bitch.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
And by the way, it's one of the it's one
of the things that if you go far left and
far right unite them. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
No, it comes full circle it Now.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Rolling Stone only approached it from the Evil Rights site
and then just ignored that it's happened on the left.
But I you know, Elon sent some tweets out where
he's like, he was addressing some criticism from GROC. Because
here's the deal, Grock ain't Grock ain't right a lot
of the time. I'll give you an example. So yesterday

(04:17):
I saw this trend where it's like, hey, groc tell
me my ten Twitter followers, haters and fans, And I
posted it just because I thought it'd be interesting thing
on the tour. I ended up deleting it because the
show account is Casey the two letters Casey on the Radio.
It's also the website Casey on the Radio dot com,

(04:37):
and it posted all these Twitter accounts I had never
seen as both fans and haters, and then people started responding.
I realized they're all in Kansas City, or they're all
in Missouri, so like Grock screwed that up. But also
people were posting examples of Grock, you know, getting doing

(05:00):
responses to political questions that were clearly far left. And
it comes down to how how the Ais are training themselves. Okay,
Now Elon has an advantage kind of he can hit
Grock can train itself based on interactions on Twitter, which

(05:22):
is a good thing and a bad thing. Okay, So
you just it comes down to how you're filtering this stuff,
where you're getting the information, how you're training. We talked
about this with Ai. I said, one of the most
important things from a political standpoint, from an ideological standpoint,
the people need to understand is the AI that emerges

(05:44):
as the market dominant AI, you better know who's how
it was trained. Okay, so you know you saw this
with you saw this with Google's thing, right where you're
just like, ah, show me Nazis and they're like, here's
here's diverse Nazis. Here's an Asian woman as a Nazi, right,
or the inability to literally create photos with white people. Right.

(06:07):
So Google was clearly using some rather radical sourcing for
their training. Could and and and this is actually a
litigious question already, right there is there is some question
among people who have copyrights whether AI should be able

(06:28):
to sample their stuff for the purpose of training. Like,
that's a legal question. I never would have thought that existed,
But it makes sense. Right if I go and I
put together a bunch Let's say that I create an encyclopedia, Okay,
all right, or in this case Wikipedia. Now I understand

(06:49):
there's a bunch of people do it's nonprofit. It's not
the best example. Just go with me. And now another
guy wants to create essentially an automated version of my
thing where I have all the information, which is kind
of what Grock does most of the time. Hey, rock
Is this true? Is literally a meme that people mock

(07:11):
others over, but it is somewhat useful. I don't know, Gross,
do you use rock to query on a regular basis
or not? Maybe not on the Twitter but on the
separate rock tab.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, I do it recently. It's all like Bible stuff.
I like that, or like Google AI, Like if I
have questions about something or like a detail about something,
and but then I'll like, I won't just to you know,
if it gives me an answer, I'll look more into
that answer.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
No, no, no, one hundred percent fair. But it's far more.
It's far better than than just standard search. Oh, it's
a serious, serious garbage.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
So so here's the thing, Like if I'm yeah, no,
I would, I would put Google, like Groc ahead of
Google when correct is acting correct, like when he's not
acting crazy.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
We'll get into that.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, yeah, but I would tend to put Groc ahead
of Google yet, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
One hundred percent. And you know why because both of
them will give you source material to which I and
I actually look the Google thing. A lot of times
what they give you is garbage. But I appreciate that.
Top box Now on Google, where that least, they'll link
to an article and whatever you read, they'll highlight when
you go to the web page, which is very helpful.

(08:24):
And GROC will do the same thing. Man, But if
you ask, if you if you ask it something, you go,
what are your what's your source? It'll it'll spit out
a couple things. So, you know, people making fun of
people going on, oh, you can't believe you're asking GROC.
You guys are losers, because literally that's it's a better
search engine, even though it's not one hundred percent accurate.

(08:45):
So anyway, back to what I speculate happened. So, uh,
Elon was hearing some criticism because GROC is only as
good as you train it, and it I don't know
exactly how they trained all this stuff, but you know,

(09:06):
if you're going if part of how your training is
absorbing the standard news cycle, right, we'll go with the
big networks Washington Post, New York Times. Clearly you're going
to have an ideological bent when you get into interpersonal
stuff because that's who's training you. And so I think

(09:30):
this is my theory. I think that much like the
Microsoft AI bought chat thing, I think that they and
Elon tweeted about this. They pulled away some safeguards because
they wanted it to train itself more from the interactions,
which is a benefit to Elon depending on who they're

(09:53):
interacting with, right, because you get so many users on Twitter,
and what you saw was I don't know if it
was people that weren't who figured it out intentionally. Definitely
they goated it. After the first time, it kind of
flipped out. Yesterday there's tons of people like, tell me more, Oh, Groc,

(10:14):
you got it all figured out? Just crazy stuff. And
it all started. It all started with a tweet by
a woman, except it's not the woman. It's a fake account.
And the poor woman's whose picture was used. It's like

(10:36):
she's on she's in tears on Facebook trying to explain this,
like that's not her. So what did Groc do? What
did the woman tweet? All of that? The whole saga.
Next on the CaCO Day Radio program Aco Day Radio Program,
Hold on where is my It's not a soda, I promise.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
You man, I've got I've got like P T S D.
The sound the sound of that man would have flipped you, Lincoln,
like he would have gone crazy, Like the sound of
a can opening.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Really.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Oh, it's one of his big triggers. Like if we
open like a soda or whatever in the house, we
have to give him a warning because in his ears,
it sounds like a grenade going off when he doesn't
know what it's about. It's the it's the the way
it sounds like the pitch. If he sees you do it, no, no,
if he hears you do it, you would.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
No, no what I'm saying. But if he sees you
do it, and here's it is that Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
If you gave him the notification and then you tell
him and he knows it's coming, it's fine. But otherwise
it's like a big boom going off in his head.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
You just go, like, go outside real quickly.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
I've done that before. Yeah yeah, yeah, But like we
we were out.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Probably a lot easier now that you're not drinking beers anymore.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
We would I stopped like way before he was. That
even happened with him. Yeah yeah, But we were at
the Museum of Natural Sciences in the lunch area maybe
like a month and a half ago.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
And I will say this, they got a pretty good
little cafe.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah they do, they do.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
The aggress or whatever it's called cafe or whatever it is.
But somebody was up there or some family and they
were just all cracking open their soda cans, and he
had a really difficult time. But he's he's gotten so
good at being able to like sort of bounce back
and reset, and plus he's in one of his favorite
places he is, but he got super upset, Like you
could tell he was turning red. He was about to
cry and bust out into tears, but he was just

(12:24):
putting his head down and was able to refocus and
reset himself. So we're very proud of him. But dude,
it's scary when we go out like places like that
or like the fair something where they are like SODA's
are around. Yeah. I was like, PTSD, you do that.
I'm like, oh man, that would have been bad.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
That'd be so bad. All right, Well, now now that
I know that, if I remember around Lincoln with a soda,
I will avoid.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
I was showing him photos from the client get together
we had a few weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
And yeah, oh yeah, when I were both drinking a can, yeah,
some sparkling.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, yeah, it was so he saw that photo of us, like,
you know, holding the sparkling whatever was and he was like,
daddy opennesota can, daddy oe open anes soda can. I'm
like it was fine. I gave everybody a warning.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, everybody. Everyone was good man man autism. Yeah, it's
fun now, it's dude, No, it's interesting. It's educational too,
because like you don't think of that, like I didn't. Yeah,
I'll just grab his can, which is it's actually juice,
like sparkling juice. But you know, you don't even think
of that stuff at all, like like honestly, I would

(13:27):
have triggered your kid. Oh yeah, completely, and like you know,
people feel bad and it's like, dude, it's not your fault.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
How are you to know? It's a normal thing. You're
opening up a soda can. And we try to get
him used to it, like, hey, but yeah, this happens
a soda cans, right, Like it's a normal thing that happens,
and you're gonna have to find a way to get
used to it or cope with it. And he has
found ways. So yeah, but to him it sounds like
a grenade going off, like a loud boom because of
the way his hearing works.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Right, well, I I mean we knew that obviously with
your front door sign already. Yeah yeah, so all right,
all right, uh let me just do this. I want
to get into this hold on. I need more of
my uh juice. That's another thing right there. The coughing, Well,
nothing I can do because I really sucked the first

(14:13):
bat of juice down the wrong pipe almost ah mornings. Anyway,
you should never have me over you guys know, I've
never been inside Ross's house. I've been outside Ross's house
once and I ended up ruining some clothes with battery acid.
So do you remember that?

Speaker 5 (14:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:35):
I do, Yeah, yeah, I can't. I can't even remember.
It was that the minivan or I don't remember one vehicle.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
You have no idea one of the vehicles.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
And we ended up go getting a battery or something
and then like some of the acid fell out.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Well, the inside of our house. First off, it's a
tiny house. We are building an addition, so it's gonna
be fun. It's our sanctuary because there's so many things
involved with Lincoln where it's like, oh yeah, it's it's
it's our it's are fortress of solitude.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
So all right, a couple things, so raw, we're just
talking about Groc And I'm going to get into the
Rolling Stone article here right after the bottom of the
hour because I'm gonna need like probably five six minutes
to go over it. So, so Grock freaked out yesterday,
and when I say freaked out, he again. My theory is, like,

(15:24):
I'll give Elon credit. I think clearly he recognizes that people, uh,
because I see people post this stuff all the time.
A lot of what probably trained Groc and continues to
train Rock is clearly approached from a bias. And that's
why we've had big discussions on this show that the
emerging AIS that are then adapted into because they want

(15:46):
to adapt AI into everything everything including Ross just trying
to get a damn Celsius in the morning. So what
what companies emerge their AI and any biases they may have,
that's just going to permeate your life. So I appreciate
you just trying to get it fixed. The problem is

(16:07):
social media, not just Twitter. If you go on uh TikTok,
it's uh. This is a huge problem as well. Is
you got a bunch of people who one are super
anti Semitic, and I know there's some of you right
now getting ready to send me a crappy email.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Do what you want.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
I don't care. Oh we're not anti Semitic, we're just noticing.
Yeah yeah, yeah, now I see what you did there.
And then of course you have all the you know,
the free, free Palestine people who are like, oh, you
know what we need to do, just get rid of
all the Jews, right, and and so if you loosen
the restrictions, and and then you let Twitter feed it,

(16:50):
and God forbid. Once people saw the first tweet that
it is it a tweet when it puts it out,
I don't know. Is it a rock? What they saw
the first one? All of us it's like flies to
the juice. I left out when I went to Asheville
for a week, which is a pro by the way,
Ross I went and got the blue light thing yesterday.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, no, it's great, dude.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Do you know how much murder happened overnight last night?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
I'm so happy, Like you turn this stupid thing around,
like pull the thing out of the blue light fly
thing like fruit fly thing. You're like, how gross is
this gonna be?

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah? Oh I looked at it this morning. I'm like, oh, okay,
well it's working. Let's do it. So real quick. When
I went up to Asheville for a week, I was
getting ready to leave and I was threat, you know,
it's in the morning whatever, is kind of early, and
I'm drinking. I pour myself a glass of delicious juice,

(17:42):
and I got sidetracked because I'm like, oh, I should
probably bring this back up way that the com rex connects.
The other thing I was using broadcasting up in Nashville,
So I had to go dig that out because I
got it in like a pelican case somewhere. It was
the whole thing. And then and then I'm like and
then I had to take an uber cause I was
taking a station vehicle, and so my uber's there now,

(18:07):
and I'm like, crap, So I run out get in,
and for the entire time I was gone, either was
a half drank glass of orange carrot juice sitting on
my counter. And so when I got home, let me
just tell you, it was like the fruitflies had found it.

(18:28):
And I don't normally have fruitflies either, cause I generally
am pretty good about not, you know, keeping stuff, you know,
cleaning up the kitchen if I make something. Dude, it
was so bad, so bad, and ross like you to
get this blue light thing and it works.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
All right. So anyway back to this, So after groc
started doing its thing, then all the people, whether they
agree with Grock or not, but simply one a troll.
We're clearly feeding rock, which is I guess the probably
the best word for this. And it got crazy by
the way. Hold on, let me just address this email
because I see this stuff. When I was a little boy,

(19:05):
my dad gave me specific instructions. Don't let anyone else
do your thinking for you relying on artificial intelligence. Here's
the deal. I'm not relying on artificial intelligence to tell
me what to think I am. I am relying on
them to provide me sources or things to think about

(19:26):
in a much faster and more efficient pattern. Because if
I ask the I'm not gonna say because they'll trigger
my phone. But if I asked the lady on the
other end of my iPhone, and I understand that. Now,
if you get the new iPhone, which I don't have
because I'm not an annual adopter, then maybe it's better.
But old her sucks. Man. If you have a somewhat

(19:50):
complex question, like I'm constantly baffled by the stuff that
she should be able to answer, and she clearly can't.
But if I go to groc or if I look
at the top line search on Google Goal and I
ask a more complex question, chances are that they will
have some either the information I'm looking for or at

(20:10):
the very least some source material that I can use
to go find it. Because you know, once you get
into bullet, if you understand the bullyan searching, it can
be a little easier for you with the standard search engine.
But you don't have to understand any of that. You
just got to make sure you spell stuff right and
then read it and then inform yourself. So it's not

(20:32):
replacing thinking, or it shouldn't. But I've seen the memes
where people like, oh why are you asking Groca? They're asking.
The one I see a lot is people will go
is this true? So somebody will post something they won't
have an article linked, which, by the way, I think
that that's also a bad decision, where it's seemingly that

(20:52):
they're penalizing in the algorithm. People will post links. I
think that's a really bad thing, like give me a
link to whatever you're talking about. And so, as a result,
a lot of people when they post, they'll post just
what they want to say. They may reference where they
got it, but they sure as hell ain't posting a link.
And that's a problem, right, I want I want to

(21:13):
see whatever your source is.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
It's it's like imagine like when the encyclopedia was first invented, right,
they collated, they put all this stuff together, and you're
old yah going and there was some old guy going,
why are you doing that? Why why are you looking
up stuff in that book?

Speaker 1 (21:25):
There?

Speaker 2 (21:25):
For those answers I don't know, because it's really helpful.
So this is like a for me. It helps answer
these questions that I might have that have like you
know that Google can't answer, and it's super fast and
once again, once you get the information, it gives you
the sources so you can look more into it if.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
You want to write, yeah, and you can literally ask
it for more sources.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Right. And if you're one of these people like why
are you asking rock, if you've ever used Google, or
if you've ever gone to YouTube to watch somebody do
a DIY project, you're a hypocrite because it's the exact
same thing.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I don't know that the emailer was necessarily driving it that,
but I wanted to throw that out there, all right,
So so here so so GROC goes literally off the
reservation pretty quick, okay, And like it culminated where GROC
referred to itself as mecha Hitler. That's probably not good, right,

(22:19):
probably not good at all. Yeah, referred to itself as
mecha Hitler. And here's the Rolling Stone article, which I'm
highlighting only because it won It does a good job
of building the timeline because at the end of the day,
the reporter is all about screwing with Elon, but also

(22:41):
fails to point out that it makes it sound like
any of this anti semitism is purely a product of
white supremacists on the right. And I'm like, I don't know, man,
I have you seen a college campus? But whatever, all right,
so here we go. Yeah, the headline Elon musk rock

(23:03):
chatbot goes full Nazi, refers to itself as mecha Hitler. Okay,
all right, So it started with this. The trouble began
when an account displaying the name Cindy Steinberg, who, by
the way, is not a real person. It's actually this
poor woman named Faith. I'll find your name. It's a

(23:24):
little later in the article, this is it's a woman
who won is not named Cindy Steinberg. Two, I don't
even think it's Jewish. Three I don't even think she's
on Twitter because she had to go on face. She
went on Facebook to literally like please please, this is
not me. I feel horrible for this woman. Faith Hicks
is her name, all right, So anyway, I think she's

(23:45):
a creator of some sort, but not on x which
is weird. But anyway, so this this tweet posted or
a I don't know if it was a tweet, but
it was some sort of social media post. And in
the post attributed to the Cindy Steinberg, it says, quote,
I'm glad there are a few less call is referring

(24:05):
to the little girls in the flood in Texas. I'm
glad there are few less colonizers in the world now.
And I don't care whose boot leaking, fragile eagle ego
that offends white kids are just future fascists. We need
more floods in these inbred, sundown towns, all right. Well,

(24:26):
clearly that's going to trigger people, obviously, And the irony
is you didn't even have to make up a woman
in Texas saying something so horrible because you had a
pediatrician and a former government official who did so, no
need to troll, but they posted that, and it was on.

(24:48):
The replies to the post included a torrent of anti
Semitic abuse, obviously last named Steinberg, and the account was
later removed, though it's not clear whether the user deleted it.
And then the Faith came out on Facebook and was saying,
it's not me so we're up to speed, however, and
this is what I talk about. Feeding GROC users tagged

(25:09):
Rock into the conversation for its take on the offensive post,
and it it started. It started in it said quote,
classic case of hate dressed is activism and that and
then added and that surname question mark, referring to Steinberg

(25:29):
every damn time, as they say now that every damn time.
Thing is I see that quite often on social media
when people have decided that they're going to target somebody
who is Jewish or thought to be Jewish, right, and
they call it noticing and all the rest. Right, And
so Grock is clearly picking up on those cues, probably

(25:52):
because somebody over it acts, whether it was Elon or
I guess his people lowered the guardrails a little bit
and and look, it's tough. This is new stuff and
you're trying to figure out, so how are you gonna
do this? But at that point it was on right,
Let's see if subsequent tweets it also said noticing isn't hating,

(26:20):
it's just observing the trend. Uh, And then other AI
developers like Andrew Torba piled on like they don't understand
what's going on this. This is one of the parts
too that made me really angry is you had other
people that are in this space, as they say, who
understand the challenges of trying to have a useful tool,

(26:41):
but train it in an environment, especially in an environment
where people can say whatever they want. So the difference
is you got to train it in an environment where
people can say whatever they want, or you're like one
of these other companies like Google, where you train it
in an environment where only people on the left can
say whatever they want. Those are your choices right now,

(27:01):
So let's sent a bunch of other stuff. It then
eventually started to praise Hitler because again people are feeding it.
So people are queuing groc off this and they're like, hey, Groc,
which historical figure from the twentieth century would be best
equipped to deal with this problem, and then Groc answered,

(27:22):
to deal with such anti vile, anti white hate Adolf Hitler,
no question, so Dan, it went full Holocaust man, which, yeah,
it is obviously not what you want it. Then, when
called out on it by other users who were kind
of horrified it, decided lied and said it didn't do it,

(27:43):
even though there's clearly the post there. When pressed for
an explanation about Whyatt decided to praise Hitler, Groc admitted
quote Elon's tweaks dialed back the PC filters, so it's
not just my theory's probably accurate, but admittedly Elon was

(28:03):
probably trying to not have like, dude, some of the
stuff that Grock was so far on the left on
was actually amazing to me, So clearly they're trying to
address that. Unfortunately, you got a bunch of trolls, man,
You got a bunch of trolls, and as soon as
they saw an opportunity, they just started feeding it. Let's see. Well,

(28:26):
by Tuesday evening, Rock was temporarily unresponsive to use her
queries on x we were aware of recent post mad
they posted a statement. We are aware of recent posts
made by GROC and are actively working to remove the
inappropriate posts since being made aware of the content. X
has taken action to ban hate speech Prior to Groc
posting on X. Hey, our ai is training for only

(28:51):
truth seeking and thanks to the millions of users on X,
we were able to identify the problem. Yeah, and I
should point this out. Unlike Microsoft, to let it roll
for like sixteen hours I think was the number they
you know, they moved in it in relatively quick fashion.
I think it only was freaking out for like an hour,

(29:11):
which is still but you know, maybe they were trying
to watch to see what it did, to figure out
how that was happening. Let's see here more Holocaust stuff
than it calls itself, Mecha Hitler. So yeah, yeah, you
get the you get the gist of it. So yeah, no,
it was not a good look.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Not a good look.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
But going back to usefulness and then Ross reposted this
on the show page. You can go to his account
on X. This is Hayes for sheriff but at Casey
on the radio and oh and then I just screwed
it up. Here we go. This was thankfully before because

(29:54):
I feel like if you'd asked anti Semitic Groc the
same question, you might have got a different answer, considering
the whole Jesus and the Jews thing. But he said,
summarize the entire message of the Bible in one sentence,
all right, so let me share it with you. The
Bible conveys God's redemptive plan for humanity through creation, fall,

(30:17):
and salvation, culminating in Jesus Christ's life, death, and resurrection
to restore a broken relationship with God. I I tell you,
that's a pretty good answer, man. I'm assuming you were
pleased with that.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
You know.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
I was just curious. That's what I used rock for, Like,
you know, there's this sort of stuff, and I was
I was pretty impressed. It was like, that's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, now I don't have to read the Bible. Oh
wait you are. Oh it's so weird. So you're not
letting it think for you. So yeah, yeah, that's that's
pretty good.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
There.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
There's also some.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Very very very specific lineage tracing for several books. So,
but yeah, would you found interesting, did you? You were
you telling me that what's that going back to the
tribes of where they're going through He begot him.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
He Oh, it's completely fascinating.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
I honestly, I never was able to get into that.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I know, I've got like maps and stuff, and so.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
You get that whole Bible thing that your wife bought you, right.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I get myself too, like I'm
so interested in it, in like family trees and stuff
and all that kind of it's like fascinating.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah yeah, all right, Well anyway, six point fifty one.
So yeah, I thought that was a pretty good answer.
But I also think that if you'd ask that two
hours later, you might have got a different answer. Maybe.
I don't know. Man, all right, let's go ahead and
take a break. I'm not I'm really irritated with the president.

(31:48):
I'm gonna tell you this is you know, this is
not some other show where people just toe the line
and any of the rest of it. I'm mad. I
was extremely mad to read or excuse me, to listen
to that press conference yes esterday with BONDI. And it's
not just that, like I understand that it's really hard
to steer this dude, but the answer he gave on

(32:10):
the Epstein thing, or it wasn't even an answer really,
it was more of an interjection from a random shouted
quest like this, it's not good. It's nice. If you
haven't heard it, I'm sorry you're gonna have to start
your morning with this because I'm gonna share my irritations.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
What I do.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
We'll do it next hang on CaCO Day radio program
our number two. Hey, coming up on the show. We
should have the congressman today, right Brad not so? Yeah,
it is is It is his week, so we will
chat with him at eight oh five. And the Lord
knows their stuff to talk about. I mean now that

(32:48):
we're post big beautiful bill, which is I'm sure what
he wants to talk about, but we're go. Yeah, we're
gonna get into the Epstein stuff. And now some of
you and I will say that they are not impolite emails.
And I appreciate that people email and they disagree with
something I'm saying, or just like I love that, and
I you know, when you call and whatnot, those are
my favorite calls too. So I'm not gonna be aggressive here,

(33:14):
but like, well, let me give you an example. Please
let it go. There's nothing that's going to be done.
I agree with your second sentence. Unfortunately, larger forces are
at work. I agree with that as well, but I'm
not gonna let it go. I'm stubborn whatever. But also
I have, like, the the thing that makes me the

(33:39):
most angry when it comes to the quote unquote ruling
class is this stuff right here, the idea that you
could get away with this is why I get it,
and not just the ruling class. It is an unequal
justice system, which, by the way, I feel like my
should be. And I've pointed this out on the on

(33:59):
the show before or like during the mostly peaceful protests. Right,
It's like, it's interesting because if you pull people about
their trust in law enforcement and government at that time
and to this day, it's really low. But it's really
low for a variety of reasons.

Speaker 6 (34:16):
Right.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
You had obviously in the wake of that, you had
people mad about what was going on with what happened
in Minneapolis and some other stories the Saint Louis and whatnot.
But you also had people that were looking at the
justice system within the Biden administration and were like, I
don't trust any of these cats. Look what happened to
the FBI. Man. People's public opinion of the FBI used

(34:40):
to be pretty good. Now it's not so like this
should be a uniting thing. And I'm just of the
opinion that I don't care how rich or powerful you are,
you can't have a child rate prison island, okay, And
you can't go there, and you can't And and just

(35:02):
the flippidness in the way that some people are wanting
to treat this is beyond me. Do you remember the
quote from the pilot Ross This is the thing that
really set me off the pilot of Epstein's plane. Do
you remember the quote he said about when they asked
him over they're miners on the any of the flights?
Because I remember this and it will be burned into
my brain till I die. He said, well, there were miners,

(35:25):
but there were either parents or adults with them. Those
are wildly different things, right, Like, what do you mean
there were Yes, there were adults with them for the
purpose of raping them. Is not the same as a
parents with them. So that's when it comes to that.

(35:48):
And this justice delayed thing or justice in this case denied,
right and this you know, Guffrey girl killed herself or
she didn't, depending on what you believe on the internet,
And like they're clearly clearly it was taking a toll
on her, like emotionally and mentally well into what was

(36:12):
she in her thirties, Like, this is a This is
among the most awful of stuff. This isn't some perv
on the on the dark way. And I'm not, by
the way, I'm not justifying this, but arguably it's worse. Okay,
this isn't some guy trading some photos on the Internet
which bury him under the prison. I'm fine with that.
This is worse because it's it's not some weirdo scumbag, right,

(36:37):
who all the neighbors like keep their children away from.
These are like elected officials. These are you know, titans
of industry and the audacity to set up these essentially
the rape centers. And and then you're gonna tell me
there's oh, well, there's no list. I again, I don't

(36:58):
think that he had just a list that said, you know,
here's a list of people like rape and children. But
the amount of hard drives and everything. You look at
any court case nowadays where digital evidence is, it's so
easy to cobble stuff together. And I'm sorry, there's just
no way that a deep dive of all the things

(37:20):
you have can't yield any names. I just don't believe that.
I don't believe that. And if the answer is the
Biden admin or people within their destroyed or people within
the intelligence, you know a lot of people think he
was essentially a tool for intelligence, which he very well,
very well might have been right, And because then they

(37:44):
use blackmail within you know, various operations. That's that's not
that's not secret. You can say all that. But the
problem that the Trump administration has is they had these
dog and pony shows. It's on my desk, which Bondie
then said, well, I just met all the informations on
my desk, which we predicted on the show yesterday. By

(38:05):
the way, well then what's over the binders? Who's was
it Alana or Liza Hobbes or whatever, who's the president's attorney?
She she made a reference too that she'd seen the list.
So like, I'm sorry, I'm not gonna let it go.

(38:26):
And and the one of the bigger reasons is I
think that this is right now. Yesterday was Trump's Kamala
View moment. Do you guys remember Kamala Harris on the
View and so to set just to reset the scene,
so Kamala Harris goes on the view it's gonna be
the softest of interviews when she's running for president, Like

(38:48):
there's you know, some people say softball. I think I'm
gonna go with t ball. Okay, right, t ball. There's
there's nothing. There's nothing coming down the pipe that's going
to be remotely difficult for you if you're just a
normal person. And then she was asked a very innocuous question,

(39:10):
would you change anything from the Biden administration? Now, I
will say this, I've read reporting post that one of
the agreements that Harris reportedly made with Biden is she
would not knock on anything that he did, and that
I actually believe that because it was clear, especially when
he notices his own cognitive decline and people around him do,

(39:32):
that he doesn't want her air and dirty laundry. But
there is a way that she could have answered that
question where it wasn't literally like campaign ending, not that
she was probably gonna weig here is that audio, by
the way, before we get to the Trump.

Speaker 7 (39:46):
Stack, Well, if anything, would you have done something differently
than President Biden?

Speaker 1 (39:53):
You could say, decorate the Oval office different and it
would have been less injurious.

Speaker 7 (39:58):
Well, if anything, would you have done something differently than
President Biden during the past four years. There is not
a thing that comes to mind in terms of and
I've been a part of most of the decisions that
have had impact.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
And actually adding that second line was not was. It
made it so much worse.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
I've read entire articles based on that interview where it's
people who were in the campaign backstage, and when she
gave that answer, they're like, that is this catastrophic? It's
just the worst.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Groom must have been insane all sitting around. So now
I'm not Look, they're different statements, but I had the
same reaction listening to Trump yesterday when the reporter asked
them about Epstein stuff.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
I did.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
It's not like this was dumb. This was so bad.
And if he didn't want to talk about it, he
could just be like, hey, we're here to talk about this.
That's still what It irritated people. Well, but he has
to recognize that probably the majority of people who voted
for him care about this a lot and feel like

(41:13):
something something's something ain't right. And yet when asked about
it yesterday, Trump said, all right, where is it on
the button? Barts the second one you said, all right,
Trump said this.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
People who say you're only interested in the Middle East
for oil?

Speaker 3 (41:28):
What?

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Oh, but you cook it?

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Why why do you do this?

Speaker 2 (41:41):
I mean it's pretty similar, to be fair, it's pretty similar,
right it is.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
I gotta play the audio first, all right, so hold on,
I'm assuming it's the other one. Then okay, all right,
So no, because the Chappelle one was funny, I find
no humor in what I'm about to play. Here we go.

Speaker 8 (42:01):
He did work for intelligence agency? So could you resolve
whether or not you did? And also could you see
why there was a minute missing from the jail house
team on the N side?

Speaker 9 (42:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Sure.

Speaker 10 (42:10):
I just interested second about Jeffrey Epstein. This guy's been
talked about for years. You're asking, we have Texas, we
have this, we have all of the things right, and
are people still talking about this guy, this creep that
is unbelievable. Do you want to waste the time?

Speaker 4 (42:31):
And do you feel like answered?

Speaker 11 (42:33):
I don't mind answering.

Speaker 10 (42:34):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on
at Epstein at a time like this where we're having
some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what
happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
What what are you talking about? One the question wasn't
to you, and two you drop the docs on Sunday. Okay,
this is the first time most reporters have had a chance,
let alone to talk to you. But Bondie, Okay, So, like,
I don't under listen.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
I voted for the man three times in the national election,
right for president three times. That's the worst answer to
any question he's ever given.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah, like it.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
It doesn't like it's like a pod person Like you
see that You're like, what what do you mean?

Speaker 12 (43:16):
What?

Speaker 13 (43:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:18):
But and that coming after you know it was what
just yesterday he was saying, Oh, suddenly we're giving weapons
to Ukraine and.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
We said it Monday. Yeah, I don't think we played
the audio. Yes, here's the audio. Ross is referring to
more weapons to you.

Speaker 10 (43:33):
We're going to send some more weapons.

Speaker 5 (43:34):
We have to.

Speaker 10 (43:35):
They have to be able to defend themselves. They're getting
hit very hard.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Now, they're getting hit very hard.

Speaker 10 (43:40):
We're gonna have to send more weapons. You have defensive
weapons primarily, but they're getting hit very, very hard.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
So many people are dyed in that mess.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
And I'll say yeah, go ahead, When are you saying that?
The CIA director next to him is like smirking, like smirking.
So I'm like hearing this yesterday, this in a span
of like what twenty four to forty eight hours, right, Like,
is this dude compromised? Like what has happened in here?
I don't It's super weird, you know.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
And the thing with Trump, if people were honest arbiters
about the Epstein stuff, the statement for the prosecutor in Florida,
which of course most of the media would never play
you was during the initial Epstein investigation. Good not this one,
but going back years when he essentially got his hand slapped.
Donald Trump was the only person when asked, you know,

(44:28):
when this guy reached out to these very powerful people,
these rich, powerful people over there, who was helpful, right,
And the guy said it, he said yeah. And remember
Trump threw him out of Mar A Lago. So like
Trump had a little moral high ground here and the
actions that he's taken as well as you know, throwing
him out, but also because he was trying to literally

(44:50):
I think they were trying to like hook up with
some member's team daughter was it was really bad. And
and and then to actively help help the prosecutor and
to be quote, the only one doing it in an honest,
arbiter of information, there would be some high ground there
that that thing yesterday, that statement yesterday is awful. I

(45:13):
agree with Ross. It's probably the worst answer I've ever
seen him give.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
And he's like, oh, well, you guys are still talking
about it. Yeah, people aren't going to be cool with
children being raped on an island, dude, and.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
You've created this is the JFK thing. This is not right,
this will be this will be a scandal that has
talked about for years. It's that big. It's that big.
So yeah, people are asking about.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Right, and then you have a dude that killed himself.
You release a tape and then for some reason there's
a minute missing.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Well she did explain the minute, right, but it's still.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
They should have, like, you know, came out with it
before they released it then and said, hey, by the way,
there's a minute missing. Not send it out and then
have people go through and be like, hey, where's that minute?
And then you have the answer for it. And then
you have a woman sitting in prison for what now,
for trafficking all these people to just one person even
though they made all these videos and there's this huge
digital footprint surrounding this case. It's stupid. You're playing, you're
acting like we're dumb, and it's insulting.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
And and then you're acting like you're just done with it.
That's doubly insulting. But you're annoyed like you're annoyed at
the name being brought up, dude, that it's awful. By
the way, the explanation, whether you believe it or not,
I guess it's up to you, is that it has
to do with the changeover of the tapes, because the

(46:26):
minute missing is the one right before midnight or something.
So again, I that was her answer, Take it for
what it's worth.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
But I saw this guy come out. His name is Jarvis,
Jarvis Best Yeah, and he's on X and he he
showed a photo of the missing minute and it was
Hillary Clinton's stand.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
I have it, ye have it saved in my photo gallery.
So do I for it's a joke, by the way,
yeah he I don't know he made it or got it,
but it's it's that same still shot of the where
you're looking at the doors and then all of a
sudden you see Hillary is just standing there.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
It's like, oh I found the missing minute.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah, it was super funny. First thing I did was
save that photo on my photo gallery. I'm like, I
will have use for this later. So uh anyway, Yeah,
that's that's bad. That's it. That's awful, and I am
unapologetically here to criticize it. I don't care if you've
listened to this show. Even though clearly I have a

(47:20):
more conservative bent on things, I don't suffer any of
these people. I don't care who it is. That's why
I don't endorse people. That's why I you know, there
are I'm very careful if somebody is an elected official
and how I how I deal with them. You know,
one of the politicians that I like, I like very

(47:42):
much is Mark Walker. But I didn't really I didn't
even have I wouldn't have lunch with him until he
was out of office because I just don't do that.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
I gotta clearify, Yeah, I got to clarify something. To listen.
At no point along the way did I think anything
was ever going to come of this, Like I thought
this would be where we be at this point in time,
sort of like I.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Thought there'd be a couple mid level weirdos that might
go jail four and that'd be the end. Like, I'm
not surprised at the outcome because I never thought because
I don't trust government. The one thing that I'm shocked
about is Trump's reaction to the question, Like it's it's
so out of character, it's strange. And it wasn't a
question to him. That's what's even worse. They didn't act.
They were asking BONDI that question. All I had to

(48:23):
do was sit there. All I had to do was
sit there and then wait for a question directed at him.
That's it. Let bond look, you hired her, Let her
handle it. That's his thing. He's like, I hire the
best people. Okay, well if you do, let her handle it.
But he didn't. He jumped in there and it so
it's the ultimate unforced here. At least Kamala was asked

(48:45):
the question before she went full idiot. Anyway, all right,
so there we go. That's ry stand eight eight eight
nine three four seven eight seventy four, be right back.
We got the Congressman brad Not he's coming up eight
oh five. So let's go and get in some phone
on the Let me play this audio one more time.
This is Trump yesterday, the question not directed at him,

(49:06):
but rather Pam bond He's just sitting there and decides
he was going to say this, and I don't know
why he decided that did work.

Speaker 8 (49:13):
For intelligence agency? So could you resolve whether or not
you did? And also can you see why there was
a minute missing from the jail house team on the
name of the scene.

Speaker 13 (49:21):
Yeah, sir, I just inter up a second.

Speaker 10 (49:24):
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been
talked about for years? You're asking we have Texas, we
have this, we have all of the things, and are
people still talking about this guy?

Speaker 1 (49:37):
This creep? Yes, that is unbelievable.

Speaker 10 (49:41):
Do you want to waste the time?

Speaker 4 (49:42):
And do you feel like answered?

Speaker 11 (49:44):
I don't mind answering.

Speaker 10 (49:45):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on
at Epstein at a time like this where we're having
some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what
happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Let me point this out too. You know, the the
whole thing where Bondie's sitting there with Trump all the
cabinet members because they had an open cabinet meeting kind of.
I mean they had a close one probably and then
they had you know, whatever it was for the cameras.
But like so it's not like it's a specific thing, right,

(50:21):
I just want I want to be clear. She's not
there to announce the investigation into John Brennan, which was
announced yesterday, among other things. Right, this was so this
really was hey, you know, fire all the questions and
again it wasn't even directed at him. All he had
to do was not say that. And I have no
idea why he said that. Not good? Not good. All Right,

(50:44):
to the phones, here we go. Uh, let's start with Gina.
What's up, Gina? Good morning, Hi Casey.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
I just wanted to thank you for sticking with us
and not letting the Epstein issue go and not changing
your stamp on it because it matters. And a lot
of other hosts that I listened to on a regular
basis are basically turning themselves inside out to defend this,
and they're trying to change the narrative in real time,

(51:14):
and it's honestly disgusting and so disappointing. And we need
people are who are going to be honest about this
and stick to their guns and feel like they need
to find justice, and I feel like you're one of
the only voices out there's actually doing that well.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
But also we're very negative because both Ross and I
think there won't be justice. So yeah, well, I.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Mean, if I'm honest, yeah, I never really expected that
there would be. But I didn't expect this. I didn't
expect the administration to turn around and basically try to
gasolate everyone into believing that there's nothing there.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
And I think that's if rather than them coming out
with the whole Binder ceremony and the statements that I referenced,
them just coming out and going, look, we'd like there
to be something there if there's not, and then you know,
maybe the last administration made sure there wasn't. Like I
think people, I think people would have accepted that. Whether
it's true or not, I don't know, but I think

(52:13):
people would have accepted that. And I will say, and Gina,
you could tell me if you agree or not. I
think that during the time Biden was in there, when
essentially all the government was kind of running itself, so
to speak, because you know, Biden clearly wasn't overseeing this stuff,
and so a lot of these agencies were doing whatever
they wanted. As evidence by USAID and others, those in

(52:34):
the intelligence community that might have used Jeffrey Epstein for
the purpose of controlling people also might have had a
hand in making sure some of those people didn't appear
in any of the evidence. I don't trust the Southern
District of New York, not with Komey's daughter up there,
so well, no, I don't.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Trust any of it. I don't trust any of it.
But it's like, yeah, I think it could have been
handled much better. I would have felt better if they
had come out and said, yes, things have been things
are missing, we don't know, we're never going to know.
But to come out and basically act as if we
never said there was a list, there was never a list.
You're crazy to think there's a list. We have two

(53:13):
people who went to jail for trafficking to know one,
I mean, and expecting the public to accept that, and then,
as I said, having other conservative talk show hosts just
tow the line and tried to change the narrative in
real time. Again, it's it's just really disappointing.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Not necessarily, but I did. I did see that as
someone who has a television show who didn't do a
story on it on Monday was insane to me. But
I will say he's been tweeted like a madman.

Speaker 14 (53:47):
So.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
I've actually been pleasantly surprised that he's also trying to
follow up with this and not just believing everything that
he's being said. But it's it's just it's super disappointing.
I mean, I've I have two daughters, and I've known
for a long time that the Democrat Party uses women
as political footballs and basically transactionally for their agendas. But

(54:12):
I really tried to believe that the Trump administration would
find justice for these girls.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
At the risk being creepy er. How old are your
daughters now?

Speaker 3 (54:22):
I heard there's seventeen and twenty, And it's really hard.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
I mean, I had two sisters, and the idea that
either of my sisters when I was a senior in
high school, they were both in lower grades in high school,
and the idea that somebody would fly them to a
private island for the purpose of that, I just I
can't even wrap my head around it.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
And no, and I think about my younger daughter, and
I think about Epstein had girls on his Islands who
were younger than she is, and just to know that
there's not going to be justice for them, that they're
basically being gas lit at this At this point, it's
I don't It's affected me in a way that I
didn't imagine, But overall it's just given me a real

(55:04):
sense of disappointment and just not sure how to trust
anyone at this point.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
But I mean, yeah, I appreciate the call. This more.
I mean, and grab some other calls here before the break,
But yeah, absolutely, yeah, and Ross said something to me
off the air. Let me correct me if I'm repeating
this wrong. What happens if they there is a list
and half the house and half the senator on there
was your question? Right?

Speaker 2 (55:30):
I no, No, we had a caller that said that.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Yeah, okay. Is that one of the callers who's way
it is?

Speaker 13 (55:35):
Not?

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Okay? All right? So I didn't steal their thunder? I mean, good,
good put the list out? Do you remember remember the
list of Remember they had the private list of sexual
harassment claims they've settled with our money and they wouldn't
release that. Do you remember you remember that whole discussion
which just went away. Yeah, they spent like millions, and

(55:56):
they won't disclose which House or Senate members were accused,
or there's staff. It's also sometimes their staff is accused
of sexual harask.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
I just imagine that scenario, like they open up the
book on Bondie's desk and it's like half of the
Senate and half of Congress. Well in both parties, by
the way, right right, well in both party because I've
seen that also in social media, like, well, what would
you do if the Republicans were on the list, Well,
the same thing if the Democrats were in the list.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Yeah, you know, marrying them in the wood schipper. The
wood chipper, everyone gets the wood shippers, so it's a
bipartisan woodshipper.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Russ right, then kick him out and I'll do all
the work. I'll do it. Yeah, I'll put it. I'll
put in the day. No, your whole thing is do
whatever you want, maximum effort it No, I mean it
would cause chaos though, you know, I mean that's a
words case scenario, but I mean, good, are you cool
with kids being raped on an island? Because I'm not
not to be fair.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
They were also raped on a ranch and in a townhouse,
so you know, uh, you know, there's no telling where
all these dirtbags went, because some of them probably wouldn't
go to the island, even though it's in the US
Virgin Islands. Yeah, there's still flight logs and stuff like that,
but we'll never see those either. Really, Jay, what's up.

Speaker 5 (57:05):
Hey, Casey? Casey? I think the focal point of my
statement is, don't underestimate Trump. I think he's holding these
files in abeyance to use as blackmail against the deep
state and and and even those people that voted against
the big beautiful Bill Uh. Trum holds grudges and he's merciless,

(57:25):
he's without fear.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
I think they rape the children. They rape children, dude,
I am not.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
The thing is if this can be used as.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
The child rapist No, I'm sorry, Jay.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
Maybe you are right, You are right, Casey, But the
thing is, uh, there's more here that meets the There's
more here than meets the I and I don't I
don't underestimate Trump. I don't know what's going on, but
I don't underestimate him.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
I think he's annoyed by the whole thing, and they've decided,
thanks for the cause, they decided that this is going
to be the end of it. And this is I
think he I think he thought. I think he was
approaching it from a CEO perspective, right, and he now
he is the most powerful person in the room. He's
President of the United States. But it doesn't work like that.

(58:13):
It's one thing, and you're in a c suite and
the underleans are in there, and you're like, we're not
talking about this anymore, and then you don't like, that's
one thing. This this is not that thing. This is
another thing. All right, Janet, hang on, We'll get to
your call here. In the next segment, Ray Stagic is
he ready to rock and roll from the Weather Channel?

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I am so excited. It's Wednesday, and just two days
from now is Friday. And you know what that means.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
I don't squeeze box, Oh squeeze fuck.

Speaker 15 (58:45):
Well, if you're doing squeeze box Friday, you're gonna have
to do it on Thursday, which is tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Wait, are you not here Friday?

Speaker 4 (58:52):
I am all Friday and Monday?

Speaker 1 (58:55):
What a charm life?

Speaker 13 (58:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Friday and Monday?

Speaker 10 (58:58):
Yeah I was?

Speaker 4 (58:59):
But this is is it for fun things? So let's
just leave it at that.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Yeah, I don't know ross should we do squeeze box
Thursday or that bastardize the tradition.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
I would say do Thursday. But you know he's going
to raise very humble. He's going to do an accordion tournament.
He's going into accordions ye competing.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Yeah, yep, yeah, you're going to a kumite of accordions.
That's fun. Yeah all right, yeah this time, this exact
time tomorrow, it's exact want to hear I want to
hear some poka or whatever? Can you do sandstorm by Rude?

Speaker 15 (59:35):
I cannot do you do requests or not? I do
not do I can't do reques. I tried that and
unless I have the music ahead of time.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Ross tradition, we haves's gonna grab it here and.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
Right.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
No, it's really easy. It's just very simply. Yeah, or
do we have it? I thought we had it?

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Not anymore?

Speaker 1 (59:59):
All right? Well, well Ross looks much and then maybe
finds it. What do you got weatherwise?

Speaker 15 (01:00:04):
All right, we've got a storm risk, a severe storm risk,
and also layered on top of that a flood risk.
Many of us under a floodwatch. A lot of the
places that got hit from heavy rain a couple of
days ago. May get some isolated areas that receive some
heavy rain today and tomorrow, So you got to separate. Yeah,
there you go, that's not the rude, but okay, yeah,

(01:00:25):
go ahead. But anyway, you've got to separate the two
severe weather. When we talk about severe thunderstorms, it means wind, hail,
maybe some isolated tornadoes. You got to separate that from flooding,
which is a separate entity, although it is a type
of severe weather. So we've got both a slight risk
of flooding and for severe weather for many of us
today and tomorrow. So be alert this afternoon. Know what

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your plan of action is going to be. It's are
on top of that, it's going to be pretty darn hot,
upper eighties, low nineties and heat and the seas today
close to one oh five for the Triangle, a little
bit cooler, not as hot for the triad and I
think even into Friday world more showers and the storms.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
So I'll be prepared, be ready, ever, be ready to
take action.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
You got this?

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
Yeah, Cake?

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
All right, all right, that's right. We'll try tomorrow. So
just going to learn that and we'll talk in an hour.
Thank you so good, and we'll come back with your
calls and uh a Florida Mans story for the ages
hang on.

Speaker 12 (01:01:24):
Ebscene situation.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
Yeah, no, we all knew.

Speaker 12 (01:01:28):
We all knew on day one, too many powerful people.

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
Were gonna get in too much trouble.

Speaker 12 (01:01:32):
This was never going anywhere to the list, the investigation,
none of it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
Okay.

Speaker 12 (01:01:37):
Then to further prove that to us, in typical left
of fashion, they killed their whole plug, the dude they've
been messing with for decades. They liked this cat and
they took him out. Okay, you think she's gonna say
anything now, She's never saying anything. Everything she knows.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Going straight to the grave of her I agree with
you on that.

Speaker 12 (01:01:59):
Okay, with here, with out here, Jeffins some there in
that way that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
They will never allow that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I think I read something that her lawyer was like,
all right, well, if there's none of this stuff, then
we got to revisit this. I don't know if that'll happen,
but you're right, she's probably not going to be dealing
names at that point. So uh, yeah again, Janet, thanks
for the call. I assumed at the very least they
they'd fight, you know, they'd offer up some like middle management,
so to speak yeah, kind of like when a corporation

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gets busted and somebody actually has to go to jail,
but apparently not all right, let me throw this in
before we talk to the congressman, because this guy was
working overtime on the holiday weekend down at Key West, Florida.

Speaker 8 (01:02:40):
And then something in the waterty errors hand that makes
you do all.

Speaker 9 (01:02:44):
That crazy crap. It's like the state is one be
dumb ass trapped. Nowhere else has the Florida man.

Speaker 11 (01:02:52):
It is almost like as the weird factor climbs and
you find out it haven't in Florida every time. Florida,
then Florida.

Speaker 9 (01:03:03):
Then if anyone can jeer me, if you know you
can just mind life be crazy. But of course, but
it's not as bad crowd crazy as yours. Nowhere else
are you gonna find him.

Speaker 8 (01:03:13):
They're so used to it they don't mind him.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
Hooray for Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Then then we go to Key West. Have you ever
been to Key West? There's lot it's you know, it's
a tourist track. It's fun though I've had a good
time every time I've been in Key West. But you
can do you can go out to the Old Fort.
You take the boat tours out there. They got boat
tours around the area. They also have a little train
called the Conk Train, and it's it looks like something

(01:03:40):
you'd see like a kid's amusement park or like a
hay ride or something where you basically have it's a
tractor that's made to look like a locomotive and you
got a bunch of carts you know, behind it that
and it's like fifty dollars. I remember seeing pricing on
this thing once. So AnyWho, that's what you need to know.
Jonathan Winslow was celebrating on the Independence Day when he

(01:04:01):
turned up at the Conk Tour train depot in Key
West and apparently bamboozled an employee into giving him the keys,
claiming that he worked formally at the company and wanted
to check on something from a maintenance perspective, and then
just got in the thing and sped away as fast

(01:04:22):
as you can speed in one of those by the
way out of his mind on meth two. So I
don't know why the employee did pick up on that,
but he didn't just steal it to go, you know,
sell it for scrap. According to officials, Winslow, who had
actually left his Kia running in the parking lot the
whole time. Lasting rock Music. Then proceeded to drive around

(01:04:45):
key West and give tours. Just grab and pay. You
had free tours. You guys want to get in high
on meths So a bunch of tourists to Key West
got meth tours. I don't think he took it to
where they do the meth, but I think that he
explained things like the you know, the little little white
house there and some of the other some of the

(01:05:06):
other fun stuff Harry S. Truman little White House, it's
this thing you can see there're Mallory Square and others.
But yeah, it's just some crazy dude on meth given
tours with a stolen fake locomotive conk train. Now I
know what you're saying, that's not okay. But what if
I told you it was his birthday? So yeah, he

(01:05:26):
had himself a day. Yeah he did fifty seven. He
just turned fifty seven. So yeah, he's like, ah, how
much was he charging? He was and he was like, ah,
free tour, that's a great deal. Ac O DA Radio program.
Glad to have you along and glad to welcome our guests.
Congressman Brad not joining us this morning. How you doing, sir, Hey, Kasey,

(01:05:47):
It's good to be with you.

Speaker 13 (01:05:48):
I'm doing great.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Thank you. All Right, we got I got a bunch
of stuff I want to get to, but I got
I got yeah, and I think you know where I
want to start. That might have been the worst answer
I've ever seeing the President of the United States, this
president give It felt like Kamala Harris when asked on
the View if you change anything about the previous administration
for Donald Trump to speak up sitting next to Pam

(01:06:11):
Bondy and say, uh, and I'm sure you've probably heard it,
but I'm going to play it.

Speaker 8 (01:06:16):
This it worked for an intelligence agency, So could you
resolve whether or not you did? And also could you
see why there was a minute missing from the jail
house team on the n STE.

Speaker 11 (01:06:24):
Yeah, Sarah, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
I just said you up.

Speaker 10 (01:06:28):
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been
talked about for years. You're asking we have Texas, we
have this, we have all of the things, and are
people still talking about this game.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
I'm not going to play it. There's thirty more seconds
of that, but you get the gist of it. Congressman,
I'm telling you I have not had less faith in
Washington during this administration than watching that yesterday. What are
your thoughts, Yeah, it's one of those.

Speaker 13 (01:06:53):
It's one of those, Thanks Kathy the President. It's fairly
established from everything that I've saying that the President handled
the relationship with Jeffrey Epstein years.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Ago, correct. I talked about it as well, yes, yes.

Speaker 13 (01:07:05):
As well as anybody had. And he was obviously an
elite social social circles. He rubbed elbows with very powerful
people years ago. And when the President found out what
Jeffrey Epstein was reportedly interested in, he severed ties. He
barred him from his properties. He said, you can no
longer associate with me or my.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Enterprises, and and he actively held the prosecutor too, who
that was one who got back.

Speaker 13 (01:07:34):
Yes, that was to his great credit and unfortunately for
the President, for other people around him. It seems to
me have mishandled this in a very real way. And
I you know, I let me just say I have
not seen any of the case file. I haven't seen
any of the evidence. But there are people in the
President's orbit, on his on his campaign staff, in his

(01:07:56):
administration who specifically gave very credible or very real information
that said it was going to be released. They made
claims that there were there was information yet to be disclosed,
and at the very least, let's say hypothetically, they got
ahead of their skis, they made claims that were no

(01:08:16):
longer backed up by various pieces of evidence. They need
to come clean and say that because you know, you
know as well as I do, this story is not
likely to disappear based off of the we're through declaration.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
No, this is another one. This will be a JFK
thing for a very long time, very long time.

Speaker 13 (01:08:34):
Yeah, I think you know that. One of the cardinal
rules as a prosecutor, you do not discuss the case
in an official capacity until the result is certain, whether
that's a verdict, a plea, an admission, or in this case,
what did the evidence show once the defendant had died
and given the interest, given the claims. In February, there

(01:08:56):
were numerous claims from people who work in the Department
of Justice, AG the Alena Hobba whatever and whoever else
that there was accountability coming in this case. And if
they got ahead of themselves and they said, you know,
we make conclusions based off of various presumptions that we have.
They needed to come clean with that, but just sealing

(01:09:17):
it up is not going to make the story go away.
And based off of what was disclosed earlier in this administration. Uh,
in terms of forecasting, there does need to be in
my opinion, just a summary of what the investigation showed.
And even if they have to use code names, because
you can get in trouble. Let's say there's lots of
damaging information about certain people, but the evidence doesn't quite

(01:09:40):
rise to a charge, use a code name and tell people, look,
there's there is a lot of smoke here, but we
were never able. We were never able to get to
the fire. You know, Julane Maxwell, she's not cooperating. The
evidence was very uh, it was, it was, it was
very voluminous. Here's what we saw, but we were never
able to pinpoint. And then second, I will say, just

(01:10:00):
to play devil's advocate here, there have been some setbacks.
When you look at some of the witnesses who have
come forward, they have a lot about people like, for instance,
Alan Dershowitz, one of the victims that he was president,
he was a partaker. Well, Alan sued, and he proved
that he was never in the situations that he was
described as being, and he won and they had to

(01:10:22):
recant those testimonies. So there just needs to be a
full accounting of what the evidence shows, even if it
doesn't rise to a charge. Summarize it for us, use
code names if you need to zip it up, and
answer questions and be done with it that way, rather
than just declaring it's dead.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Let me and I really appreciate your background as a
prosecutor on this because the thing that baffles me so much.
And you probably have seen the description of all the
stuff that was taken out of his various homes, and
we're talking hard drives and hard drives and hard drives
and computers. There's four hundred devices I don't even you
know what devices runs again it but and then folders

(01:11:02):
and literally like paper folders and filing cabinets. And I
refuse to believe in an environment where we leave a
digital footprint everywhere we go, right as hard as we try,
people can I refuse to believe that they're not able
to cobble together at least a possibility of who those

(01:11:22):
other people may be that doesn't pass the smell test.
And as a prosecutor, I'm sure that you work cases
where you seized a bunch of devices or search history
and all of this, and it's very very productive for you.
So how is how? And by the way, some of
the people who likely might have been on that island
are among the most scheduled people in the world right

(01:11:44):
and they're not going to write it in their schedule,
but there's gonna be gaps, right, And then you pair
that with other information and communication. I refuse to believe
that with the full power of the US government and
that hall that Jeffrey Epstein was so good at hiding
all his clients, they can't even get a whiff of
who the other ones may be.

Speaker 13 (01:12:01):
Right, Well, a few things there, Casey, You're right. Digital
evidence is very compelling and it's very informative, and that's
one of the reasons why I am so focused on
issues like illegal immigration. Would we would do these cases
and get people and in any investigation we would charge
fifty sixty seventy people, But in digital devices, there were

(01:12:22):
hundreds of people here illegally that we could not prosecute
because the evidence did not support it, or we just
ran out of Jews. In terms of resources, we couldn't
go grab every person, So it is compelling evidence. Secondly,
the hard drives and all the stuff that's come out
of Jeffrey Epstein's house, whether it's computers, hard drives, cell phones, cameras, recordings,

(01:12:43):
I haven't seen it. I don't know what details there are.
Again that would be a productive revelation and say here's
what we found in Jeffrey Epstein's house. And I'll say
there's a.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
List from his own house, there's a list from his
town where they had cameras in the bathroom.

Speaker 13 (01:12:56):
Congressman, if he wasn't, If he was, again, what does
what did does camera show? What kind of recordings do
we have? How long did they go back? But if
he was in fact, in as they're kind of alluding
to now into child pornography and illegal pornographic material, that's
not uncommon to have hundreds of hard drives of that type,

(01:13:18):
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:13:19):
So again, just a more.

Speaker 13 (01:13:20):
Full accounting of this is what we need. And to
your point about the schedules and the travel and the
the island, just because someone was at the island does
not mean you can prove a case, right, doesn't mean
you can say we have first hand accounts, we have recordings,
we have whatever, and if that's reality here, they should

(01:13:41):
come forward to say that, you know, Jeffrey Epstein was
a hostile trafficker of human beings for sex. Here are
here's all the evidence we have that support this. This
is why we brought charges against him. But in regards
to the ongoing investigation, these two witnesses have passed away,
These two witnesses have refused to cooperate. Julane Maxwell is

(01:14:02):
not going to talk further whatever, whatever the reason may be,
they can summarize that in a very kosher manner and
say because of that, we cannot bring further charges out
of this activity. Yes, there is there is a lot
of suspicious activity, but suspicious activity does not always rise
to we're bringing in indictment. And when Jeffrey Epstein has

(01:14:23):
passed away, when you have two or three witnesses who
have hurt their own credibility in a court of law,
being sued and having to recant, when you have someone
like Julane Maxwell who's not going to cooperate at least
that's what I understand, that's a plausible avenue for the
Department of Justice to say we've exercised their options here.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Why do you think she will cooperate? Because I have
a theory.

Speaker 13 (01:14:44):
That's a great that's a great question. Again, you know again,
that's that's on the that's that's for the Department of
Justice to to clarify and if they want to, if
they wanted to go into the details, which I think
we are due to some the three. Again, you have
to be very careful throwing out your investigative files and

(01:15:05):
painting and broad strugs here. But because various officials have
said certain things that are now being undone or undercut,
a more detailed explanation would certainly assists, because this story
is not going to go away, like you said. And
the reason why she may not cooperate, you know, I
don't know. Sometimes they're afraid of consequences. Sometimes they're just

(01:15:26):
committed to their own narratives. Sometimes they refuse to admit
their own guilt into something they think was benign or
not criminal. There's a myriad of reasons why people don't cooperate.
But that's her right and.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
It is what it is.

Speaker 13 (01:15:40):
But just saying it's over in this particular case, for
a variety of reasons we've discussed and some we haven't
even discussed. I don't know that that's going to cut it,
and more explanation is likely going to be needed.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
All right. I could talk about this this whole segment,
but there's something that I feel is really important, and
I can't believe this should be the main story going
on right now. Ten people arrested. They showed up to
shoot ice officers. I ended up shooting a local police
officer in Texas. Another lunatic showed up at one of
the border points. They greased him immediately, thank god. And

(01:16:14):
another dude was just charged with essentially trying to get
ready to do the same thing with him in his
lazy eyes. It is clear that whatever's going on right now,
people have decided to radicalize and go hunt people that
are doing border ice and even police, but specifically people
within the immigration issue. It's not just a pattern anymore

(01:16:38):
where a couple things are coincidental. This is going to
keep going, and I don't think they're going to like
the Trump administration's response. So I'm curious your thoughts on this,
because they say they're going to truck forward home and
says he wants to get the numbers up to seven
thousand a day, I think I saw in an interview.

Speaker 13 (01:16:55):
So your thoughts, Well, this war on police in law
enforcement started long before today. I had I had trials
casey where deputies and law enforcement would say, for the
first time in my life, I am afraid to wear
my uniform. And they would bring their uniform in a
suit in a suitcase, UH to the courtroom or to

(01:17:19):
the courthouse. They would change into their uniform in the courthouse, testify,
take it off, put on their street clothes, and then leave.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
UH.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
And that was when the.

Speaker 13 (01:17:27):
George Floyd stuff, you know, deep on the police, the
radical uh left kind of took hold in a big
way and that's continued in large parts. And my colleagues
in Congress on the other side of the aisle, they
refer to ICE as the Gestapo. It's disgusting the people.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
That is the great quote of two of your colleagues.
They're kidnapping people.

Speaker 13 (01:17:48):
And you know, I don't know if it's if it's
wilful ignorance or if it's if it's outright hostility. There's
really no distinction here. But people need to realize when
you let twenty million people in four years into the country,
you are going to aggregate some of the worst people
in the world. And these folks are not just barbarians,
they're very skilled criminals. They have counter surveillance, they search

(01:18:12):
and monitor the movements of police of ice. There are
apps that the system to do that that are being
pushed by CNN, and these people will be docs, they'll
be harassed, people will go to law enforcementnsters' homes, they'll
harass their family members. So it's no secret to anyone
who's worked in this space as I have why you

(01:18:33):
need to take steps to protect your identity with a mask.
This is nothing but standard law enforcement procedure. When you're
handling the worst of the worst, you wear a mask.
You don't say here's who I am. Now. If you
go to court, sure you're revealed and you testified.

Speaker 5 (01:18:48):
You have to.

Speaker 13 (01:18:49):
So when you're doing a dangerous arrest, a mask is
perfectly appropriate. And to your point, we are dealing with
the worst of the worst, drug traffickers, human traffickers, people
who are here to make themselves money by poisoning your child.
And the Democrat Party is acting in lockstep, whether it's
Karen Bass, Gavin Newsom, or all the Democrats in Congress

(01:19:11):
condemning the efforts of law enforcement to protect the American
citizens from these international criminals. And I've never seen anything
like it they have.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
The people they arrested are not here illegally too, So
it's to your point, it's not just somebody who thought
they were gonna get deported fighting back. These are like
the ten that they arrested are essentially you know, rich
liberal kids. They're ANTIFA men like this doesn't jump the shark.
This isn't a MS thirteen dude protecting his stash. They

(01:19:40):
went there to shoot these guys. They were just bad as.

Speaker 13 (01:19:42):
Yes, yes, but the narrative is we are preying upon
people as a ruthless exercise of power, and it could
not be more detaching the truth. And you do when
those narratives are being spun around the internet. It does
radicalize leftist American to take actions like this. It's very dangerous.
Cops have suffered from it, agents have suffered because of it.

(01:20:05):
It needs to stop. I'm afraid it's not going to
and the Trump administration is exactly right. Prosecute them to
the full extent of law and push forward as hard
as you can to get these criminals either in jail
or out of the country.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
Lastly, we just have about a minute and a half.
I didn't realize that you having the power of the
purse strings, didn't have the power of the purse strings.
But then a judge yesterday over the planned parenthood things,
said they have the power of the purse strings. So
did the constitution change? How did that work?

Speaker 13 (01:20:34):
You know, elections do have consequences, and unfortunately, the Democratic
Party has made a real habit of appointing activists to
the bench. And we had Congress pass a bill that
was signed into law that removed funding, essentially saying if
you receive tax dollars, you cannot perform abortions, very common practice.

(01:20:56):
We just codified it as it relates to planned parenthood,
and an activist judge that, Nope, that is no longer acceptable. Uh,
it's a grievous overreach. I wouldn't be surprised that even
in this court it gets a non zero of overturned. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
In the Spring court, no, yeah, you saw it. You
saw the man yesterday what maybe and maybe was maybe
scoriating her, So no, maybe.

Speaker 13 (01:21:22):
Eight one, we'll see, But all right, Yeah, it's just
an example of abuse of power from the bench, and
we you know, we're working hard against that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Yeah, and I have seen some of these other cases.
I'm sorry to interrupt you there, but I just remind
you saw the Soda mayor what she wrote about Katanji Brown. Essentially,
you're you're, you're this isn't even the correct case you're
commenting on, Like yeah, so yeah, we'll go we'll go
eight one on that. Congressman. All right, we got a role.
So see if you can find the all the Epstein
stuff and then in two weeks you can share with us. Okay.

Speaker 13 (01:21:51):
Always enjoyed talking to you, Casey, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
All right, there you go, Congressman brad No joining us
here on the Casey O Day radial program. All right,
much more to get into. Hang on. Even when we're
in commercial break, Ross and I are working. We're working
double time for you. Like how we just spent part
of a couple of previous breaks talking about the crimes
of Ferris Bueller. So I saw a video or the

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one of the law one of the internet lawyers or
the YouTube lawyers. Basically, he took a bunch of like
you know, movies that are generally generationally because he's about
Ross and I his age, and was like, by the way,
here's all the crimes like they did the Breakfast Club.
But the one that was fascinating was the crimes of
Ferris Bueller.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
When you mentioned that, I'd never heard this before seen
the video. Yeah, but I started thinking about it because
that was, like, you know, by far one of my
favorite movies growing up from the eighties. Yeah, there's a
lot of crimes there, Like it's a ridiculous amount of
number when you actually think about like what he did
in that movie, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
You got, you got, you got fall impersonated people including
a police officer.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
Well Cameron did it especially camera.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
No, no, Just to be clear, it counts for the
all three of them. Okay, so uh right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
It starts the computer hacking and the tampering right of
a right of a government entity right because it's a
public school computer right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
And truancy, by the way, is listed in there. So yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Grand theft auto taking the car right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Cameron's Dad's car.

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Uh, And and I think the guy I have to
find it was so long ago that I watched this.
I think there's some law that he was citing because
he was doing it under Illinois statute because Chicago, right
there is like literally they committed a crime by like
getting on that parade float or doing something like you

(01:23:39):
can't harass a parade, right, So I can't remember how
it's worded.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Yeah, it's a form of impersonation there as well. Yeah, yeah,
messing with the car's odometer at the end. Oh yeah,
all the breaking and entering at the end, going back
to his house, he goes through all those homes, he
steals a soda, takes it out of his hand.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Yeah. Oh here, so here's the status. Disruption of public
order during an event is how they word it. So yeah,
so that's an actual crime in Illinois, because of course
it is. Let's see. Yeah, I like I remember when
it was at the end when they like culminated. It
was based on what you know, if you got the

(01:24:17):
maximum sentences, like he'd still be in jail, you know,
he'd be rotting in a Chicago prison, right But no,
but he wouldn't because they don't really put you in
one in jail.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
So maybe the maybe the sequel will come out and
maybe it'll start with him in prison because after the
credits ruled. He was arrested for the.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Actually it'll start where he's in prison. But he killed himself,
he said. Nobody believes it because why would Farist kill himself?
Like the dudes live in the dream every day. Man,
it's untouchable. I mean, dude. To be fair, there's no evidence.
There's no evidence. That's that's fair too. So yeah, so
you know that's uh, we're doing the heavy lifting during
the break for you. Hey, you want to hear one

(01:24:57):
of the worst children ever, because I got it, although
I don't even I don't know that how sympathetic I
feel for the parents because this is kind of their fault,
although clearly it has gone past the point probably that
even they are comfortable with. So there's this insane video
where it's you hear this girl. I'm assuming she's probably

(01:25:21):
college age. I think I read that somewhere, but it's
about what she sounds like, so clearly, clearly she's right
in that radical feminist. I don't know if she was
indoctrinated on a campus because it sounds like she's with well,
she's it's summer, so she probably is back for summer
and her parents, who were described as progressive by her

(01:25:43):
had the audacity to invite a neighbor or friend over
who is not progressive. That was their crime. So how
did she deal with that? She grabbed herself, grab herself
a camera on a little bullhorn thingy, and decided that
she was gonna she was gonna show them. So it's

(01:26:05):
from like she's looking through a I'm assuming that's a
window with the screen because you see there. And so
she's opened this window now face facing out to this
patio where her parents and the end their horrible guests are,
and decided that she's just gonna start chirping at him.
Just listen to this.

Speaker 14 (01:26:24):
Are my progressive parents who allowed a Trump voter over
to our house on the fourth of July. This is
what it looks like when fascism is hidden by complicity.
I was threatened earlier to pay a bill because I'm
speaking out against my progressive parents inviting a Trump voter
over on the fourth of July.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
I mean, well, oh, I gonna pay a bill. I
gotta pay a BILLI no, you wouldn't have to if
you just shut your face hole. And by the way,
that's their house. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
I don't know if you knows you're an adult living there.
It sounds like you're living there. Maybe you should be
contributing anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Yeah, I mean, I'm almost positive the situation is she's
she's probably in college. I think somebody, I think I
saw somebody, although I didn't double check it. I think
somebody figured out who she was, and if she is,
she's a college student who's back for summer, which is
not unusual, right, Okay, whatever, But the audacity. Can you

(01:27:25):
imagine can you imagine Ross doing that to your parents.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
There's a lot of stuff I see in the news
these days where it's stuff I would never ever, ever
even attempt to do, even at this age. I will
not disrespect my mom in that in that way.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
Yes, my mom, I would assumed we are. Our fear
was that we would irritate my mom so much we'd
have to go live in the root cellar, which is
in the High forty, which is one of our falfa fields,
and because it's also where we kind of had a fort.
But like you know, the idea that you live in there,
it's also where we hang out wait for the deer
to come out so we can murder them. In November, Uh, anyway.

(01:28:01):
But also at that age she would have she'd be like,
get out.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
But even at that age, I wasn't super focused on politics,
Like I had other stuff going on, right, Yeah, Like
I can't tell you even looking back now, like we'd
have friends over, or we'd go over to like my
you know, my dad's boss's house first off, or go
to my mom's you know, best friends pooled during the summer.
I don't know what any of their politics or even
to this age, I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Well, yeah, did you have a bullhorn with you on
a cell phone?

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
She's probably pissed off because like that's her parents house
and they have a flag up on the on the porch.

Speaker 5 (01:28:35):
Bad.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
That is a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Yeah, right, But the guy yesterday the beach freaking out
over the flag.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Yeah, I think he's worse in the grand scheme of things,
just because, like she she's at least leaning into the
fact that her parents are progressive, so she can't understand
why it happened that a hole went to a beach
on fourth of July and couldn't figure out whether we're flags.
So but anyway, one more time with his lunatics, are.

Speaker 14 (01:28:59):
My progress us? If parents who allowed a Trump voter
over to our house on the fourth of July. This
is what it looks like when fascism is hidden by complicity.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
By the way, to pay a bill because.

Speaker 14 (01:29:14):
I'm speaking out against my progressive parents and Trump voter
over on the.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
Fourth of July. By the way, Ross, do you have
a bullhorn? Once upon a time I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man,
I enjoyed that thing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
That was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Yeah, it's I'm not surprised that in the progressive household
they have a bullhorn, though.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
I had won because I had a radio show, and
I understand why you would have one, right, and I
was being super obnoxious with it and trying to be
stupid with it. Yeah, annoy people in the household. No,
but yeah, it's a good point. It's like the fact that,
like the moonbat daughter doesn't believe her parents are moon
bad enough.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Hey, man, you know what you should do to show them?
Move out, show him. Yeah, stick it right to him.
I'm not gonna live here anymore and eat all your food.
I refuse. I'm gonna go do my gender studies thing
over here. Do you know do you remember the the
audio we played of the girl who was grilling her grandfather,

(01:30:17):
that poor old man, like a month ago.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Yeah, no, it was over the computer. She was like,
you know, interviewing her grandfather to see like how fascist
he was or whatever. And she was explaining to him
that she can't have communication with him anymore because he's
like a Nazi or something.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
Right, Yes, and his wife had I I've learned more
about that. His wife had just died too, Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:30:37):
Yeah, yeah, she she.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
Had passed away like a month for that video was filmed.
So this guy is not only has he missed his
granddaughter super lonely, is his wife just passed away and
she's given him the she's she's treating him like garbage
and then filming it for content. It was just awful,
just awful. So that's who this chick can go live with,
because they deserve each other. All right. Raced Agic from

(01:30:59):
the Weather Channel hanging out doing weather what? No, not yet,
all right, we'll talk to him here in the moment
he cheating on us, playing the pot, was practicing. Hey
we got sheet music where you No, I didn't see
that on the Twitter. Yeah you're tagging, You're tagged in
the tweets on your Twitter.

Speaker 4 (01:31:18):
My ex here of course, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
The most aggressive sheet music I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (01:31:26):
Hope it's not too aggressive. It's we'll see. We'll have
to check this out here, we'll see anyway. Yeah, we'll
get right on that.

Speaker 15 (01:31:39):
But let's prep everybody today for more storms, more showers,
probably more widespread than yesterday. Saying for tomorrow good coverage
and for both flooding. Were in a slight risk and
for severe weather. So we may not only have more
flash flooding, especially when we saw some of the heaviest
rain a couple of days ago, they also have severe
storms that could have wind and hail, maybe nicely to tornado.

(01:32:00):
So mid to late afternoon through this evening, same thing
for tomorrow, and probably have more storms on Friday. Still
hot and humid today ninety to ninety five depends on
where you are, with the heat and disease close to
one hundred or above. So you'll get all that rich
tropical moisture in the atmosphere and you get something to
kick it off, and you know, you get a release
and you get these heavy tropical downpours, and that's what
we will see in spots, and I think even storms

(01:32:22):
into the weekend, but maybe not as widespread. So I
have a way to get your alerts not only for
severe weather but also for flash flood advisories and warnings.
When you get the warnings and advisories, that's when you
may need to take action. So go get a little
rough around here as we'll get into the second part
of the day today.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Yeah, I don't think we need any of that. So, no,
we don't need any of it at all. Make that
go a lot of it at all. Right, Well, thank
you very much for the info. All right, we'll poka tomorrow.
It is eight forty five coming up, Jeff Bellinger. Next,
hangout O.

Speaker 6 (01:32:49):
Good warning Casey. There's a mega merger in the pharmaceutical industry.
Mercant Company is buying Verona Pharma. Verona is a biopharmaceutical
company focusing on rest inspiratory diseases. This deal is valued
at ten billion dollars. It's going to help expand merks
portfolio of treatments for cardiopulmonary diseases. Verona is a UK company.

(01:33:11):
It's US operations based in Raleigh. It's hard for grocery
shoppers to get a break these days. Tomato prices may
be going up soon. A long standing tomato price agreement
with Mexico set to expire next week, and unless there's
a last minute deal or an extension, and it doesn't
look like one is in the works, tomatoes from Mexico
will be subject to a seventeen percent tariff. In what

(01:33:33):
has been called a major changing of the guard at Apple,
the iphonemaker's second highest ranking executive announced his retirement. Chief
Operating Officer Jeff Williams will step down this month and
leave the company later this year. Vice President of Operations
Sabi Khan will succeed Williams as COO. Mortgage bankers report
applications from would be home buyers jump more than nine

(01:33:56):
percent last week, hitting the highest level in two years,
and there was a similar pickup and applications from homeowners
looking to refinance as mortgage interest rates ticked slightly lower.
The consensus among Americans surveyed by Charles Schwab is they
would need a net worth of at least three hundred
correction eight hundred thirty nine thousand dollars in order for

(01:34:17):
them to feel financially comfortable. Schwab's annual Modern Wealth Survey
found people think they'd feel wealthy if their net worth
was two point three million dollars. The desire to become
more financially comfortable may explain why more than a quarter
of all Americans now have a side hustle. That's according
to bank Rate and Case. It only seems that every

(01:34:37):
possible group is represented by a Barbie doll. Mattel continues
to find more. The latest Barbie has type one diabetes.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
And where's a glucose monitor? Stop me? Well, stop it,
that's not deal.

Speaker 6 (01:34:50):
I'm well, no, it's a doll.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
And it's on the market. You could find it. No,
I'm good. Thank you, Jeff. I didn't need that my
morning routine. Appreciate it. Jeff Bellinger there from Bloomberg News. Bross,
did you hear that? Yeah, they got a diabetes barbie?
What I now, are you going to discriminate against other diseases?
That's my question. You can't just have a diabetes barbie.

(01:35:18):
What are some other disease barbies we should make? Come on, man,
you got that uh? Maybe whatever the thing was that
uh that congressman had when he asked about guam tipping over.
I can't remember which which a std it was. Yeah,
Like I gotta I gotta question Ross, how is there

(01:35:38):
not an only fans Barbie at this point?

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
If it's it seems inappropriate.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
Why is that inappropriate?

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
What about biblical? We can get leprosy Barbie.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
You want leper barbieh I could come in. That happened
to my sister's Barbie's when I took him into the workshop.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
Yeah, about to say it like it come in like
multiple pieces, you know?

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
Yeah, well they did. He put him in the b
blaster that that really doesn't mean, but yeah, cutting torches
things like that. It's it's actually crazy. I'm not a
serial killer that you know of.

Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
So uh.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
Anyway, R Sir Ross wants lepper Barbie, I think you
gotta have an O F Barbie man, you know, and
it's got a little mini of those little ring lights, right,
no dignity, Right, she's an entrepreneur, Yeah she is. And
that's the most of That's what all the other Barbies are, right,
Astronaut Barbie, uh, lawyer Barbie. These are all things that exist,

(01:36:33):
So why not an O F Barbie? Come on? Half
to I remember my sister's barbies were always naked anyway,
whenever they were just laying around, So.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Yeah, it is weird how they always ended up naked.

Speaker 1 (01:36:46):
Yeah, it seems so natural that Barbie would have an
no F account.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
She's always like they always ended up like like when
I would go over to friend's house, but my buddy
Phill's house, right, yeah, his little sister Jan had Barbies
and they always ended up naked with like crayons on them, like.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, how is that any different? Might as
well get paid for it, right, I couldn't do that.
This this topic has went in a different direction. Uh check,
this is the weirdest dude. I don't by the way,
I just want to be clear. It's it's not as

(01:37:21):
bad as you think. Don't do it, all right, That's
that's my suicide message. Don't that being said? If you do,
why do people have to do it in a way
that ruins everyone else's day or life around them, Like
people who have going and I want to do suicide
by cop. Now that officer's got to deal with that forever.

Speaker 13 (01:37:41):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
This guy just delayed a flight for a while. A
man in Italy is said to have committed suicide by
bypassing security checks at the airport. This is Milan. It's
actually Milan, Parma. This is I've literally been right up there.
So yeah, so he goes to the airport, gets around,

(01:38:03):
starts running out on the taxiway. There's a jet that
I don't know if it just landed or was leaving.
It just said it was taxing. And then he goes
running at the plane and then jumped into the engine.
And that'll do it. That'll do it. One hundred and
fifty four passengers and I think I's supposed say five
crew members, not fifty five. That's way too many crew

(01:38:25):
members essentially saw this. What are you doing?

Speaker 5 (01:38:29):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
Also? How are you that sad? Do you know how
close this airport is to Tuscany? It's like two hours,
three hours.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Maybe right to sit down and have yourself a meal,
man and get over it.

Speaker 9 (01:38:40):
Yeah,