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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You may have seen or heard the headline Senate advances
Trump's nine billion dollars spending cutbill as Vance casts the
tie breaking vote. This is the one that is attempting
to claw back about nine billion dollars in spending. Codify
it in a law. And the focus A big part
(00:23):
of this is the defunding of NPR PBS. And we're
joined for a few minutes here by from the Media
Research Center Vice President of Free Speech America, Dan Schneider. Dan,
good morning, Gerry.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I do radio all over the country. I am speaking
to a living legend. It is an honor to be
on your show.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Well, thank you, I appreciate you coming on. Dan checks
in the mail. The vote last night was procedural and
Deb Fisher we knew Pete Rickets was a yes. But
Deb Fisher voted yes on this. But the final version
has to be voted on by Friday. Why is it
important that Deb Fisher continues to vote yes?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Right, Well, you know, there was a time when when
it made sense to have these these state funded media outlets,
these government funded media outlets. We only had three networks
in our country and most of the radio stations were
playing you know, gospel music or country music. But that
that is an that's a bygone age. We now have
(01:27):
tens of thousands of options. And what we now see
is that these NPR stations and these PBS stations have
become mouthpieces for one side only in the political spectrum,
one side only. Fresh Air, Terry Gross on NPR, she
we are latest study on her show that she had
thirty six liberal guests and zero conservative guests thirty six
(01:53):
to zero. One of NPR's own editors, senior editors here
in Washington, DC, he wrote a piece a year ago,
you know, saying, look, NPR used to be great. I've
loved NPR, you know, and he admitted he went to Berkeley,
he wears birkenstocks, and his two mothers raised him. The
(02:14):
others with a liberal mindset. But he said, but NPR
has lost the thread. It now is one sided. And Gary,
that's against the law. The law clearly states that PBS
and NPR, and I'm going to quote you the statutory
language that they have to adhere strictly to objectivity and
(02:37):
balance in all programming. But they don't. They break the law,
and they demand taxpayer taxpayers in Nebraska to fork over
their hard earned money to subsidize these outlets, and then
these outlets turn around and criticize the kind of work
that Nebraskans do. If you're a farmer, if you're involved
in manufacturing, if you're doing anything, if you're using carbon
(03:00):
based duels to NPR ones to ruin your job and
hurt your life, it can do that if it wants,
but not on our time.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Well, I'll tell you what, Dan, I don't have a
particular problem with PBS, but as it pertains to NPR,
you're exactly right, and this argument that people in rural
areas won't have any access is arrant nonsense. Let's take
Nebraska for example, because they always try it out the weld,
you know, the local news and the emergency between KFAB
(03:30):
and Omaha and KRVN and Lexington. The state is blanketed.
There's no shortage of emergency information available or local news.
So what would you what do you think? What would
you think about splitting the baby? Although that's not part
of this bill? What do you think of PBS ookary?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
PBS does their bias more politely, but they're just as biased.
For example, we looked at every single TV network and
we and we do this study periodically. How often do
they use the term far left or hard left versus
far right and hard right? And every outlet in America,
(04:12):
every TV outlet in America is bad. The average was
fourteen to one. Fourteen times more often do they use
the term far right, but the very worst of all
of them, worse in MSNBC, worse than CNN. With PBS.
The ratio of PBS forty two to one, forty two
(04:33):
times more often they use the term far right than
they use far left, because they think that anybody who
is right at center is an extremist.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, we were talking about their news hour. I was thinking.
I was thinking of you know, Sasame Street. I had
a way they're not going to go away.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Well, you wouldn't think not now in Nebraska, Nebraska public
media is a twenty five million dollar annual enterprise.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Okay, I don't know how much money the TV stations
at omahaspend. I know we don't been twenty five million
a year around here. They get twelve and a half
million from the Nebraska taxpayers. We're looking at right now
eighty nine million in debt for fiscal twenty seven starting
next year because the tax receipts came in lower. What
(05:17):
do they need to do what they do and is
what they do capable of being done by someone else?
Do we need twelve hours of legislative coverage every day
during the legislative session. Do we need Nebraska volleyball on
television when the Big ten network does it? Do we
need the state high school's tournament on television when the
(05:39):
commercial broadcasters. I don't know, I'm asking that question rhetorically,
but please, you got to do a value story. You
got to prove that what we do, we are the
only ones that can do it and it's valuable. And
I'd like to hear that argument for my twelve million
dollars in Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Gary, you just used the term they use all the time,
only we do this and they lie in the middle
of those Texas floods when the flood waters were rising,
and the private radio stations down in Kerrville, Texas, you know,
(06:19):
like the talk radio station, country music station, the even
the heavy metal station, they were all breaking from their
regular programming to interview first responders to educate their listeners
what to do with the flooding. It took nineteen hours
for Texas Public Radio to post its first social media
(06:44):
warning after the National Weather Service. Wow, that made its
big enough when noun July, sir, what was Texas Public
Radio doing during those nineteen hours? It was mounting a
campaign to get people to call their senators to vote
against this precision.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well we'll see final vote Friday. Deb Fisher so far
as thumbs up. Dan, thanks for the time this morning.
Appreciate it very much.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Thanks Jerry,
You may have seen or heard the headline Senate advances
Trump's nine billion dollars spending cutbill as Vance casts the
tie breaking vote. This is the one that is attempting
to claw back about nine billion dollars in spending. Codify
it in a law. And the focus A big part
(00:23):
of this is the defunding of NPR PBS. And we're
joined for a few minutes here by from the Media
Research Center Vice President of Free Speech America, Dan Schneider. Dan,
good morning, Gerry.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I do radio all over the country. I am speaking
to a living legend. It is an honor to be
on your show.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Well, thank you, I appreciate you coming on. Dan checks
in the mail. The vote last night was procedural and
Deb Fisher we knew Pete Rickets was a yes. But
Deb Fisher voted yes on this. But the final version
has to be voted on by Friday. Why is it
important that Deb Fisher continues to vote yes?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Right, Well, you know, there was a time when when
it made sense to have these these state funded media outlets,
these government funded media outlets. We only had three networks
in our country and most of the radio stations were
playing you know, gospel music or country music. But that
that is an that's a bygone age. We now have
(01:27):
tens of thousands of options. And what we now see
is that these NPR stations and these PBS stations have
become mouthpieces for one side only in the political spectrum,
one side only. Fresh Air, Terry Gross on NPR, she
we are latest study on her show that she had
thirty six liberal guests and zero conservative guests thirty six
(01:53):
to zero. One of NPR's own editors, senior editors here
in Washington, DC, he wrote a piece a year ago,
you know, saying, look, NPR used to be great. I've
loved NPR, you know, and he admitted he went to Berkeley,
he wears birkenstocks, and his two mothers raised him. The
(02:14):
others with a liberal mindset. But he said, but NPR
has lost the thread. It now is one sided. And Gary,
that's against the law. The law clearly states that PBS
and NPR, and I'm going to quote you the statutory
language that they have to adhere strictly to objectivity and
(02:37):
balance in all programming. But they don't. They break the law,
and they demand taxpayer taxpayers in Nebraska to fork over
their hard earned money to subsidize these outlets, and then
these outlets turn around and criticize the kind of work
that Nebraskans do. If you're a farmer, if you're involved
in manufacturing, if you're doing anything, if you're using carbon
(03:00):
based duels to NPR ones to ruin your job and
hurt your life, it can do that if it wants,
but not on our time.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Well, I'll tell you what, Dan, I don't have a
particular problem with PBS, but as it pertains to NPR,
you're exactly right, and this argument that people in rural
areas won't have any access is arrant nonsense. Let's take
Nebraska for example, because they always try it out the weld,
you know, the local news and the emergency between KFAB
(03:30):
and Omaha and KRVN and Lexington. The state is blanketed.
There's no shortage of emergency information available or local news.
So what would you what do you think? What would
you think about splitting the baby? Although that's not part
of this bill? What do you think of PBS ookary?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
PBS does their bias more politely, but they're just as biased.
For example, we looked at every single TV network and
we and we do this study periodically. How often do
they use the term far left or hard left versus
far right and hard right? And every outlet in America,
(04:12):
every TV outlet in America is bad. The average was
fourteen to one. Fourteen times more often do they use
the term far right, but the very worst of all
of them, worse in MSNBC, worse than CNN. With PBS.
The ratio of PBS forty two to one, forty two
(04:33):
times more often they use the term far right than
they use far left, because they think that anybody who
is right at center is an extremist.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, we were talking about their news hour. I was thinking.
I was thinking of you know, Sasame Street. I had
a way they're not going to go away.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Well, you wouldn't think not now in Nebraska, Nebraska public
media is a twenty five million dollar annual enterprise.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Okay, I don't know how much money the TV stations
at omahaspend. I know we don't been twenty five million
a year around here. They get twelve and a half
million from the Nebraska taxpayers. We're looking at right now
eighty nine million in debt for fiscal twenty seven starting
next year because the tax receipts came in lower. What
(05:17):
do they need to do what they do and is
what they do capable of being done by someone else?
Do we need twelve hours of legislative coverage every day
during the legislative session. Do we need Nebraska volleyball on
television when the Big ten network does it? Do we
need the state high school's tournament on television when the
(05:39):
commercial broadcasters. I don't know, I'm asking that question rhetorically,
but please, you got to do a value story. You
got to prove that what we do, we are the
only ones that can do it and it's valuable. And
I'd like to hear that argument for my twelve million
dollars in Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Gary, you just used the term they use all the time,
only we do this and they lie in the middle
of those Texas floods when the flood waters were rising,
and the private radio stations down in Kerrville, Texas, you know,
(06:19):
like the talk radio station, country music station, the even
the heavy metal station, they were all breaking from their
regular programming to interview first responders to educate their listeners
what to do with the flooding. It took nineteen hours
for Texas Public Radio to post its first social media
(06:44):
warning after the National Weather Service. Wow, that made its
big enough when noun July, sir, what was Texas Public
Radio doing during those nineteen hours? It was mounting a
campaign to get people to call their senators to vote
against this precision.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well we'll see final vote Friday. Deb Fisher so far
as thumbs up. Dan, thanks for the time this morning.
Appreciate it very much.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Thanks Jerry,
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