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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good to have Nick von de Carrol joined us for
a few minutes. Nick is associate editor of NewsBusters Media
Research Center, and he is here to talk about some
of the headlines that we've all been consuming in recent
days regarding the state of the national media. We know
that we know about the Colbert situation, and the rumors
(00:21):
started flying that the View was to be no more,
although what we what we know is that they're on hiatus,
but this seems to be largely a rumor that that's
going to be over. But let's bring Nick in for commentary. Nick,
good morning, Good to have you on.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I guess I guess the president the president didn't he
post something that said by slamming Joy Behar that he
kind of indicated the view is going to be canceled.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, So there was kind of this perfect storm last
week where the President mentioned that sort of going against
the view there because they had mentioned some nasty the
sys some nasty stuff about him the day prior and
sort of went at them about their ratings and sort
of hoping that they would be canceled. And then later
that same day, uh SEC Chairman Brandon Carr made some
(01:14):
statements about the View having some issues and that maybe
there should be an effort to look into ABC in
the View. And then literally later that day also Joy
basically announced there that they were going on their their
usual summer hiatus. But the way she said it was
sort of cryptic and was like, was this public knowledge
(01:35):
and sort of generated this storm, But it is their
normal summer hiatus.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
They probably need to keep that show on because I
don't I don't know what their ratings are, but everybody
talks about them all the time, and the conservative media
a lot of it gives them oxygen. Every day they'll
play clips from the show, so that's probably good for them, right.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Uh yeah, So they're actually fairly popular. They are the
number one daytime talk show. Earlier this year in January,
there's a little bit of the Fox News Show that
was sort of out pacing them. Outnumbered on Fox News.
I'll pace them for a little bit, but they are
the number one. I know, it's very surprising to a
lot of people. They are actually fairly popular at the
(02:19):
number one daytime talk show slot.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
They say some of the most jaw droppingly stupid things
on that show, because I can just tell from the
clips and we know about the cold bear situation. What
is the future and neck in your view of the
late night quote comedy shows.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, so what it's looking like so far is that
it's not looking really good for them because it's a
model that really isn't working anymore, especially with the sort
of twenty four hour You can get any sort of
entertainment you want via the internet. You want to go
back and look at old versions of the different hosts
or just different person and different talent doing different things
(03:02):
in terms of comedy, especially when their comedy now is
just largely centered around politics. Like Jay Leno over the weekend,
I believe, said some comments basically scoffing at the current
state of late night where most of their content is
political and it just alienates half the audience.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, Johnny Carson talked about that in a sixty minutes
interview back in the seventies. Yeah, because Mike Wallace was saying,
why don't you talk about things that matter to the
Because why would I do that? Why would I alienate
half of my audience? People at ten thirty at night
want to have fun, They want to laugh, and they
want something to smile about when they go to bed.
(03:39):
They don't want to be mad at the guy. And
that was fifty years ago that he said that. So
he says to me, you know, we got the wrong
people in charge of these these late night programs.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Another thing, Nick, is that we now, and this is unusual,
we have an honest or god conservative as a chairman
of the Federal Community Gasons Commission, and he's looking at
at getting rid of a lot of old rules, most
of that technical stuff for radio on TV. But he's
also talking about the legacy media Megan of course correction.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Right, Yeah, that's definitely what we've been seeing, Like he
made those comments that sort of built into the to
the a little bit of the misinformation storm about the
view there. But what we're seeing so far, there's nothing
said in Stoniet or put to paper about any sort
of future regulations yet. I think what they're possibly hoping
(04:38):
for is that the executives will sort of course correct themselves,
which is what we're starting to see with CBS and
the Colbert them hiring the ombudsman to try to make
sure there's no bias. You saw ABC recently fired Terry
Moran for the comments he was making. It's so far
what we're seeing is that it's the executives themselves that
are realizing, oh, we need to start making this course
(05:00):
correction without government interfering, so we can at least have
some sort of control over how we course correct. And
that's what we're starting to see. That's why I sort
of feel like we should also apply the term rand
standard a little bit of the view, because the view
is an ABC News show, surprisingly enough. So yeah, So basically,
(05:21):
what we're starting to see is the executives being the
ones that take things back and being like, hey, you
guys need to make these changes.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
It's interesting, Nick, We've been talking this morning about the
local news media landscape here in Omaha, and it's not
just here, it's all across the country. They're pretty much
reflecting what we're seeing on the national level. It's quite
it's quite interesting. And I guess Rosie's worked in TV.
(05:47):
I have not, But Jim, you say a lot of
that is consultant driven.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, absolutely, they go, Look, the advertisers want to know
who owns women eighteen to thirty four or eighteen to
forty nine, and you better be doing stuff that they're
interested in, and if you're not, they won't watch you.
And that may be so, I don't know. That's certainly
the way it was.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
When I was in it.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
It's the way it looks, it's it's but you think
that would not be at the expense of covering news items.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
It's what matter to people. It's what you're talk me
to emphasize, right right, Nick, Thanks great to have you on.
Appreciate the time.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Nick fond de Carrol from NewsBusters here on kfa b's
morning News
Good to have Nick von de Carrol joined us for
a few minutes. Nick is associate editor of NewsBusters Media
Research Center, and he is here to talk about some
of the headlines that we've all been consuming in recent
days regarding the state of the national media. We know
that we know about the Colbert situation, and the rumors
(00:21):
started flying that the View was to be no more,
although what we what we know is that they're on hiatus,
but this seems to be largely a rumor that that's
going to be over. But let's bring Nick in for commentary. Nick,
good morning, Good to have you on.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I guess I guess the president the president didn't he
post something that said by slamming Joy Behar that he
kind of indicated the view is going to be canceled.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, So there was kind of this perfect storm last
week where the President mentioned that sort of going against
the view there because they had mentioned some nasty the
sys some nasty stuff about him the day prior and
sort of went at them about their ratings and sort
of hoping that they would be canceled. And then later
that same day, uh SEC Chairman Brandon Carr made some
(01:14):
statements about the View having some issues and that maybe
there should be an effort to look into ABC in
the View. And then literally later that day also Joy
basically announced there that they were going on their their
usual summer hiatus. But the way she said it was
sort of cryptic and was like, was this public knowledge
(01:35):
and sort of generated this storm, But it is their
normal summer hiatus.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
They probably need to keep that show on because I
don't I don't know what their ratings are, but everybody
talks about them all the time, and the conservative media
a lot of it gives them oxygen. Every day they'll
play clips from the show, so that's probably good for them, right.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Uh yeah, So they're actually fairly popular. They are the
number one daytime talk show. Earlier this year in January,
there's a little bit of the Fox News Show that
was sort of out pacing them. Outnumbered on Fox News.
I'll pace them for a little bit, but they are
the number one. I know, it's very surprising to a
lot of people. They are actually fairly popular at the
(02:19):
number one daytime talk show slot.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
They say some of the most jaw droppingly stupid things
on that show, because I can just tell from the
clips and we know about the cold bear situation. What
is the future and neck in your view of the
late night quote comedy shows.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, so what it's looking like so far is that
it's not looking really good for them because it's a
model that really isn't working anymore, especially with the sort
of twenty four hour You can get any sort of
entertainment you want via the internet. You want to go
back and look at old versions of the different hosts
or just different person and different talent doing different things
(03:02):
in terms of comedy, especially when their comedy now is
just largely centered around politics. Like Jay Leno over the weekend,
I believe, said some comments basically scoffing at the current
state of late night where most of their content is
political and it just alienates half the audience.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, Johnny Carson talked about that in a sixty minutes
interview back in the seventies. Yeah, because Mike Wallace was saying,
why don't you talk about things that matter to the
Because why would I do that? Why would I alienate
half of my audience? People at ten thirty at night
want to have fun, They want to laugh, and they
want something to smile about when they go to bed.
(03:39):
They don't want to be mad at the guy. And
that was fifty years ago that he said that. So
he says to me, you know, we got the wrong
people in charge of these these late night programs.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Another thing, Nick, is that we now, and this is unusual,
we have an honest or god conservative as a chairman
of the Federal Community Gasons Commission, and he's looking at
at getting rid of a lot of old rules, most
of that technical stuff for radio on TV. But he's
also talking about the legacy media Megan of course correction.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Right, Yeah, that's definitely what we've been seeing, Like he
made those comments that sort of built into the to
the a little bit of the misinformation storm about the
view there. But what we're seeing so far, there's nothing
said in Stoniet or put to paper about any sort
of future regulations yet. I think what they're possibly hoping
(04:38):
for is that the executives will sort of course correct themselves,
which is what we're starting to see with CBS and
the Colbert them hiring the ombudsman to try to make
sure there's no bias. You saw ABC recently fired Terry
Moran for the comments he was making. It's so far
what we're seeing is that it's the executives themselves that
are realizing, oh, we need to start making this course
(05:00):
correction without government interfering, so we can at least have
some sort of control over how we course correct. And
that's what we're starting to see. That's why I sort
of feel like we should also apply the term rand
standard a little bit of the view, because the view
is an ABC News show, surprisingly enough. So yeah, So basically,
(05:21):
what we're starting to see is the executives being the
ones that take things back and being like, hey, you
guys need to make these changes.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
It's interesting, Nick, We've been talking this morning about the
local news media landscape here in Omaha, and it's not
just here, it's all across the country. They're pretty much
reflecting what we're seeing on the national level. It's quite
it's quite interesting. And I guess Rosie's worked in TV.
(05:47):
I have not, But Jim, you say a lot of
that is consultant driven.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, absolutely, they go, Look, the advertisers want to know
who owns women eighteen to thirty four or eighteen to
forty nine, and you better be doing stuff that they're
interested in, and if you're not, they won't watch you.
And that may be so, I don't know. That's certainly
the way it was.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
When I was in it.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
It's the way it looks, it's it's but you think
that would not be at the expense of covering news items.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
It's what matter to people. It's what you're talk me
to emphasize, right right, Nick, Thanks great to have you on.
Appreciate the time.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Nick fond de Carrol from NewsBusters here on kfa b's
morning News
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