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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcoming Dan Osborne of the program. As you know, Dan
is an independent candidate for US Senate opposing the two
time incumbent dead deb Fisher. Dan, good to have you on.
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah, thank you, Gary. I feel like we're old friends now.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, you've been listening for a while. That's good. Yeah.
Number one, by far the most asked question I get
people demanding to know from you if you win this election,
for whom you will caucus. The people in Nebraska need
to know to make a more informed decision. Uh, there
(00:36):
is no rule that I'm aware of in the US
Senate that you have to caucus with one party or
the other all, but every independent that I'm aware of
does what's your decision on that?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, you're exactly right there. There is no rule, and
there's a precedent. The last independent senator from Nebraska, from
the Cook Nebraska George Norris, who helped create the unic
camera in the state, did not caucus with either party
his last term. Look, I want to challenge the system, Garry,
because I think the system needs to be challenged. I
don't feel like it works for me and my family.
(01:09):
This one hundred and eighteenth Congress is arguably one of
the least efficient congresses of all time. They're just not
getting anything done. And I'm not going to caucuss with
the Democrats and I'm not going to caucuss with the Republicans.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
So what will you then do, Dan, If you're not
going to caucuss with either one? What about legislation? How
do you get legislation and acted if you're not with
either party? Y.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Senate rules state that every Senator has to be on
at least two committees. So there, I'm gonna get some
committee assignments. But there's a world that exists that I
could be the fifty first swing vote in the US Senate,
and that's going to have people coming and knocking on
my door, and I'm going to use that leverage to
get on committees and you know, deliver for Nebraskas.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
If the Republicans win the Senate race or Senate, if
they win enough to overtake the Senate and become the
majority part then the Senate majority leader will assign committees
to you. And if you've taken out a Republican, Dan,
that's two strikes before you step into the batter's box.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Well, you know, I my whole campaign has been based
off of issues. You know, if they're concerned, if they're
legitimately concerned about closing the border, then I'm their guy
because dev Fisher's had twelve years to do something on
the border and she's done nothing. And I will definitely
work with the Republicans to get a border closed. We've
had ten million people cross in the last couple of years.
(02:33):
That's unacceptable. We have to secure boarders without a border,
we don't have a country. You've heard a lot of
bs and a lot of lies about me recently. Those
are just dev Fisher's donors trying to paint me out
to be somebody I'm not.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Let's talk about issues. Then, where are you on free
healthcare for illegals, something that Kamala Harris has said she's
all about.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, no, absolutely Again, lies about me social security benefits
that you've heard. They they like to take little snippets
of sentences I say and twist them into untruths. You know,
are there going to be people that have to get
deported one hundred percent? Like I said, ten million people
(03:20):
in the last few years. What what I'm concerned about
is a meaningful immigration reform. I've never met anybody who's
anti immigration. They don't want anybody here. You know, we
have we have eighty thousand open jobs in Nebraska. But
we got to do it right. We got to close
the border. And you know, there's a ten year backlog
of asylum seekers and so the laws state that, you know,
(03:43):
we got to take care of them. It's the laws
that Congress haven't active. That's the problem. So we have
to we have to fix that because otherwise, if there's
a ten year backlog, what are they going to do.
They're just going to cross illegally.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Right, So is that those people exactly what I was
referring to as a broken immigration system. You said, let's
give them a Social Security card already. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I was talking about the people who have been here
twenty thirty years, that have raised families. They are part
of our communities. There are friends and our neighbors. I
wasn't talking about, you know, the people who have come
here in the last.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Year or two. What about mandatory gun buybacks for automatic
for semi automatic rifles.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
No, absolutely not. That's an infringement on our Second Amendment.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
What about fracking? Kamala Harris wants to be now she
says she doesn't, but she's changed.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
No. Look, we energy security as APEX. We have to
have our nation have energy security. But at the same
time we do have to be you know, focusing on
the future on clean energy. Look, we don't want to
lose out to China on these things. So yeah, we
have to focus on the future, but we also have
(04:54):
to focus on the present energy security.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Dan Osborne with US candidate for the United States Senate,
making more noise than any independent has in Nebraska since
George Norris, who has defeated in nineteen forty two as
an independent following a long career serving as a Republican.
But Dan, this this race is certainly captured a lot
of attention across the country. But in your case, when
(05:20):
you talk about getting to the United States Senate and
making an impact, I suspect you fully appreciate the value
of which party with which you caucus. Do you still
maintain that you don't know the origins of the massive
amounts of out of state funding that has come into
your campaign by third party groups? Do you know who
these people are?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Well, that's that's the key word, right there, is people.
They're individuals in the federal Max out is thirty three
hundred dollars. So if you think I'm going to owe
any one person a favor for thirty three hundred dollars,
they're going to have another thing coming to them. My
average donation still remains forty dollars, and you know they're
the fact remains also that I have more in state
(06:04):
donors than than deb Fisher does not total money wise,
but certainly a number of donors. And uh, you know,
there's there's we have to think about America first, and
you know, we talk about cryptocurrency and we talk about
AI spaces. There's there's people that understand that I am
not going to over legislate crypto and AI so they
(06:26):
can't operate in this country and then we're going to
lose to China. So yeah, there's some individual donors in
Silicon Valley in Manhattan that understand the value of me
being in the US Senate.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
The third party groups which have funded a lot of
the campaign ads for you, these are that there's no
limit on what they can contribute into these third party operations.
You surely know who these people are. Jeff Fordenberry proved
that if you don't know who your campaign donors are
you can get into big trouble. So do have you
had any meetings with your staff?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Kay? Who are these people? What is their political persuad?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Why are they giving into a fund that will run
negative ads against my opponent?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, no, that's that's that's a great question, and that's
the overall broad stroke message of my campaign is is
campaign finance reform, ending Citizens United that allows all of
this to happen. But by law, the only thing I
can know about an independent expenditure is that it exists.
I can't solicit to it. I can't communicate with those folks.
(07:28):
You know, I just found out I had another one.
I don't even know who these people are, and they're
soliciting money in my name. This is why, this is
why DC is corrupt, This is why Washington, d C.
Is broken. It's Citizens United. And you know, until we
fix these things, until we end Citizens United, until we
implement term limits. I made a two term pledge yesterday
(07:50):
at my deal. Until we do those things, we're not
going to clean up the corruption in DC. We're just
going to continue getting you know, empty suits that are
just doing corporate bidding.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
About a minute left, you have you you mentioned to
us earlier here this morning that you think a lot
of the things that the Fisher campaign and others have
said about you are unfair. It strikes me as a
little unfair that you have accused your campaign has accused
her repeatedly of being in the pocket of these big companies.
Don't shouldn't you have to provide evidence of that to
(08:23):
make that claim.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well, yeah, it's all it's all public knowledge.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Uh no, it's not. What's public knowledge is they may
have contributed to her campaign, but that's one thing. It's
another thing to say that she's beholden to them, she's
in their pocket, and she's gotten fabulously wealthy.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I got pictures that I haven't used of her getting
off of corporate up corporate jets. And why would a
senator be on a up corporate jet. I don't know,
but I can get those to you if you need them.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I don't need the pictures. I'm just saying, you're suggesting
that she's doing the bidding and taking money from these
big companies. That's pretty strong charge. Correct, you stand there,
You stand by it, But you wouldn't be doing the
bidding of any of these big money operations that have been.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm gonna I'm going to have a working person's agenda,
not a corporate agenda.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Okay, appreciate you coming on the day before the election.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Dan, thank you, Thank you guys. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Dan Osborne.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I got to tell you, Sadler, no populist has had
this much impact in Nebraska in seventy years. This is
this is real. And part of it may be Dan,
part of it may be deb Fisher. Part of it
may be Nebraska practicing a very common activity, and that
is throwing entrenched politicians out of office. It's happened here.
(09:45):
I don't well, it has happened, Yes, it has.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
We shall see. That's Dan Osborne here on KFAB this
Morning News
Welcoming Dan Osborne of the program. As you know, Dan
is an independent candidate for US Senate opposing the two
time incumbent dead deb Fisher. Dan, good to have you on.
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah, thank you, Gary. I feel like we're old friends now.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, you've been listening for a while. That's good. Yeah.
Number one, by far the most asked question I get
people demanding to know from you if you win this election,
for whom you will caucus. The people in Nebraska need
to know to make a more informed decision. Uh, there
(00:36):
is no rule that I'm aware of in the US
Senate that you have to caucus with one party or
the other all, but every independent that I'm aware of
does what's your decision on that?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, you're exactly right there. There is no rule, and
there's a precedent. The last independent senator from Nebraska, from
the Cook Nebraska George Norris, who helped create the unic
camera in the state, did not caucus with either party
his last term. Look, I want to challenge the system, Garry,
because I think the system needs to be challenged. I
don't feel like it works for me and my family.
(01:09):
This one hundred and eighteenth Congress is arguably one of
the least efficient congresses of all time. They're just not
getting anything done. And I'm not going to caucuss with
the Democrats and I'm not going to caucuss with the Republicans.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
So what will you then do, Dan, If you're not
going to caucuss with either one? What about legislation? How
do you get legislation and acted if you're not with
either party? Y.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Senate rules state that every Senator has to be on
at least two committees. So there, I'm gonna get some
committee assignments. But there's a world that exists that I
could be the fifty first swing vote in the US Senate,
and that's going to have people coming and knocking on
my door, and I'm going to use that leverage to
get on committees and you know, deliver for Nebraskas.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
If the Republicans win the Senate race or Senate, if
they win enough to overtake the Senate and become the
majority part then the Senate majority leader will assign committees
to you. And if you've taken out a Republican, Dan,
that's two strikes before you step into the batter's box.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Well, you know, I my whole campaign has been based
off of issues. You know, if they're concerned, if they're
legitimately concerned about closing the border, then I'm their guy
because dev Fisher's had twelve years to do something on
the border and she's done nothing. And I will definitely
work with the Republicans to get a border closed. We've
had ten million people cross in the last couple of years.
(02:33):
That's unacceptable. We have to secure boarders without a border,
we don't have a country. You've heard a lot of
bs and a lot of lies about me recently. Those
are just dev Fisher's donors trying to paint me out
to be somebody I'm not.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Let's talk about issues. Then, where are you on free
healthcare for illegals, something that Kamala Harris has said she's
all about.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, no, absolutely Again, lies about me social security benefits
that you've heard. They they like to take little snippets
of sentences I say and twist them into untruths. You know,
are there going to be people that have to get
deported one hundred percent? Like I said, ten million people
(03:20):
in the last few years. What what I'm concerned about
is a meaningful immigration reform. I've never met anybody who's
anti immigration. They don't want anybody here. You know, we
have we have eighty thousand open jobs in Nebraska. But
we got to do it right. We got to close
the border. And you know, there's a ten year backlog
of asylum seekers and so the laws state that, you know,
(03:43):
we got to take care of them. It's the laws
that Congress haven't active. That's the problem. So we have
to we have to fix that because otherwise, if there's
a ten year backlog, what are they going to do.
They're just going to cross illegally.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Right, So is that those people exactly what I was
referring to as a broken immigration system. You said, let's
give them a Social Security card already. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I was talking about the people who have been here
twenty thirty years, that have raised families. They are part
of our communities. There are friends and our neighbors. I
wasn't talking about, you know, the people who have come
here in the last.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Year or two. What about mandatory gun buybacks for automatic
for semi automatic rifles.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
No, absolutely not. That's an infringement on our Second Amendment.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
What about fracking? Kamala Harris wants to be now she
says she doesn't, but she's changed.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
No. Look, we energy security as APEX. We have to
have our nation have energy security. But at the same
time we do have to be you know, focusing on
the future on clean energy. Look, we don't want to
lose out to China on these things. So yeah, we
have to focus on the future, but we also have
(04:54):
to focus on the present energy security.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Dan Osborne with US candidate for the United States Senate,
making more noise than any independent has in Nebraska since
George Norris, who has defeated in nineteen forty two as
an independent following a long career serving as a Republican.
But Dan, this this race is certainly captured a lot
of attention across the country. But in your case, when
(05:20):
you talk about getting to the United States Senate and
making an impact, I suspect you fully appreciate the value
of which party with which you caucus. Do you still
maintain that you don't know the origins of the massive
amounts of out of state funding that has come into
your campaign by third party groups? Do you know who
these people are?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Well, that's that's the key word, right there, is people.
They're individuals in the federal Max out is thirty three
hundred dollars. So if you think I'm going to owe
any one person a favor for thirty three hundred dollars,
they're going to have another thing coming to them. My
average donation still remains forty dollars, and you know they're
the fact remains also that I have more in state
(06:04):
donors than than deb Fisher does not total money wise,
but certainly a number of donors. And uh, you know,
there's there's we have to think about America first, and
you know, we talk about cryptocurrency and we talk about
AI spaces. There's there's people that understand that I am
not going to over legislate crypto and AI so they
(06:26):
can't operate in this country and then we're going to
lose to China. So yeah, there's some individual donors in
Silicon Valley in Manhattan that understand the value of me
being in the US Senate.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
The third party groups which have funded a lot of
the campaign ads for you, these are that there's no
limit on what they can contribute into these third party operations.
You surely know who these people are. Jeff Fordenberry proved
that if you don't know who your campaign donors are
you can get into big trouble. So do have you
had any meetings with your staff?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Kay? Who are these people? What is their political persuad?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Why are they giving into a fund that will run
negative ads against my opponent?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, no, that's that's that's a great question, and that's
the overall broad stroke message of my campaign is is
campaign finance reform, ending Citizens United that allows all of
this to happen. But by law, the only thing I
can know about an independent expenditure is that it exists.
I can't solicit to it. I can't communicate with those folks.
(07:28):
You know, I just found out I had another one.
I don't even know who these people are, and they're
soliciting money in my name. This is why, this is
why DC is corrupt, This is why Washington, d C.
Is broken. It's Citizens United. And you know, until we
fix these things, until we end Citizens United, until we
implement term limits. I made a two term pledge yesterday
(07:50):
at my deal. Until we do those things, we're not
going to clean up the corruption in DC. We're just
going to continue getting you know, empty suits that are
just doing corporate bidding.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
About a minute left, you have you you mentioned to
us earlier here this morning that you think a lot
of the things that the Fisher campaign and others have
said about you are unfair. It strikes me as a
little unfair that you have accused your campaign has accused
her repeatedly of being in the pocket of these big companies.
Don't shouldn't you have to provide evidence of that to
(08:23):
make that claim.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well, yeah, it's all it's all public knowledge.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Uh no, it's not. What's public knowledge is they may
have contributed to her campaign, but that's one thing. It's
another thing to say that she's beholden to them, she's
in their pocket, and she's gotten fabulously wealthy.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I got pictures that I haven't used of her getting
off of corporate up corporate jets. And why would a
senator be on a up corporate jet. I don't know,
but I can get those to you if you need them.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I don't need the pictures. I'm just saying, you're suggesting
that she's doing the bidding and taking money from these
big companies. That's pretty strong charge. Correct, you stand there,
You stand by it, But you wouldn't be doing the
bidding of any of these big money operations that have been.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm gonna I'm going to have a working person's agenda,
not a corporate agenda.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Okay, appreciate you coming on the day before the election.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Dan, thank you, Thank you guys. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Dan Osborne.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I got to tell you, Sadler, no populist has had
this much impact in Nebraska in seventy years. This is
this is real. And part of it may be Dan,
part of it may be deb Fisher. Part of it
may be Nebraska practicing a very common activity, and that
is throwing entrenched politicians out of office. It's happened here.
(09:45):
I don't well, it has happened, Yes, it has.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
We shall see. That's Dan Osborne here on KFAB this
Morning News
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