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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcoming Nebraska US Senator Deb Fisher Back to the program. Senator,
good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Good morning Gary. How are you well?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Appreciate you coming on, and I want to get to
some issues as time allows here, but I want to
start with your campaign for reelection and the challenger, Dan Osborne,
who has obviously some massive money coming in because he's
all over TV and these are pretty high quality ads
(00:29):
in terms of their production value, and I haven't seen
you on as much. Is this a matter of money
available in your campaign or do you think your level
of advertising is okay?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
You know, Gary, Nebraska is a conservative state, and I've
got a really long conservative record, so I know that
with sport Nebraska's We're going to come out of this
on top. But I am taking the race really seriously.
We continue to raise. As you said, there's a lot
of really progressive East Coast money coming in for my opponent,
(01:09):
and I think the more Nebraska's learned about him, the
less they're going to like him. He claims he's an independent,
but he's funded by Democrats through Act Blue and these
super packs. He's got two superpacks. He talks like a Democrat,
and we all know he's going to vote like a Democrat.
So you know, for example, he wants to give illegal
(01:32):
immigrants social Security. He says he loves Bernie Sanders. He's
being bankrolled by the Democrat donors who support Kamala Harris.
And when Nebraskas hear about that, which they will from
the ads we have up and that we're going to
have coming, they're not going to be fooled by him.
(01:52):
They're going to see who he is and and they're
going to see that he's trying to trick the people
in Nebraska into the leaving that he's an independent when
he really doesn't talk about issues at all and where
he stands.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
You believe he would cauc us with the Democrats were
he to be elected.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Oh yes, I mean he's put out statements. He's been
quoted as saying, I think he had an ad up
asking for money, saying that he would be the fifty
first vote, that he would flip the Senate. Well, this
idea that oh I don't know who I'm going to
(02:29):
cauc us with, or I'm not going to cauc us
with anybody, Nebraska's Nebraska's not going to believe that. I mean,
he knows what he's doing. He's playing the independent card
because in Nebraska we are nonpartisan in our legislature and
works there. But in the Senate, if he doesn't cauc
(02:50):
us with anybody, he won't even get a committee assignment.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
One of the big issues that he's bounding and accusing
you of lying. And I've had input here from listeners too,
wanting to know what do you have to say about
the fact that you said you would just do two terms.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know, Gary, I served in the legislature and served
under term limits. It works when it applies to everybody,
and that is something I learned pretty quickly when I
got to the United States Senate that seniority counts. Nebraska
is at a disadvantage when we don't have senators who
(03:29):
are willing to step forward and serve an extra term.
And you can see that. I think in my committee
assignment seniority counts, and Nebraskans have been very supportive of that.
They understand I have good committees, and I heard from
a lot of Nebraskans who want me to run again.
(03:51):
So Bruce and I thought it over and decided that
we would.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
You regret making that pledge.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I think it was in a reaction to the world
maybe as we want it to be. You know, in Nebraska,
I happen to think term limits work, and I've supported
term limits, support legislation for term limits. And to be
able to really make it work, it's got to apply
(04:21):
to everybody. And that's why it works. In Nebraska, it
applies to every single state senator. But in the United
States Senate it doesn't. And in that institution, states that
have senators who are there for more than one or
two terms are able to help their citizens more. They're
(04:44):
able to get legislation moving more. And it you know,
it was a wake up call to me. It was
a lesson to learn, and you learn it pretty quickly
when you get there.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
The US Senator deb Fisher with us on a lem
ten KFB a couple of things dead. If anybody's followed
your career, they know that you are a legislator. You're
a deal maker. You are not an obstructionist. You accept,
as the old Ronald Reagan ratio, seventy five percent of
what I want for twenty five percent of what they want.
You're getting killed on that right now, especially over the
infrastructure bill. In these ads by Dad Osborne, do you
(05:18):
believe that some of this stuff the negative for you
is a reflection of Trump, because five point thirty eight
has you up four points Republicans statewide in Nebraska. Four
points is like deb even are you? Are you victimized
by an anti Trump sentiment among some Nebraska Republicans.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You know, I don't think so. I don't think so.
When we compare the Trump administration and what was accomplished
to what's happening under Biden Harris, I would think most Nebraskans,
if they're being honest, life was better under President Trump.
There was more money in your pocket it I can
(06:01):
tell you for sure. The world was a safer place
for everyone. What we're seeing now with an border that
isn't a border here in this country, with the illegal
migrants entering this country and getting all sorts of free
stuff from this administration. When we look at the cost
of living, and I hear from Nebraskans how they're struggling
(06:24):
when they have gas, groceries, rent, everything going up from
twenty to fifty percent. In fact, Congressman Flood said at
the Nebraska Breakfast yesterday, his insurance home insurance is going up,
cost of homes are going up, and the solution is
not what Kamala Harris is putting forward. The federal government
(06:48):
shouldn't be putting or giving you twenty five thousand dollars
in order to buy a new home. That shouldn't happen.
All that does is increase the cost of a home
by twenty five thousand dollars. And who pays for it?
We just keep printing money. Who pays for it? You know?
This is I think when people really step back and
they're honest and they look at the issues, which I
(07:11):
always try to do to be able to see how
that affects everybody's life. President Trump, we did better. We
did better, Our businesses did better. You know. I traveled
over thirty communities in August and made over a hundred
(07:31):
stops and visiting with Nebraskans and listing with them in
their communities and their businesses and their hospitals and their schools.
And yeah, life right now is just pretty darn tough
for people right.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And I hate to interrupt, but I had to interrupt.
Our time is limited, and I promise i'd get to this.
The House finally said amen to the AM Radio bill.
It's important to a lot of people in our listening audience.
What are its chances in the Senate.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, that's one of those bills. It's up to Chuck
Schumer if he's going to get it done. I mean,
we've got great support for it, and we all realize
how vital AM radio is for the emergency alert system.
It's critical the public safety. We want to make sure
that automakers still put AM radios in their vehicles. That's
(08:25):
how we get our latest local news. It's how we
get our weather developments. And if we have car makers
who are going to drop access to that, we lose
that really vital, vital piece of communication.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Is Schumer opposed to it?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
He doesn't put anything up.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Is he opposed to it? Schumer?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Chuck Schumer's transactional, and he's looking at how he can
get leverage not just within his caucus, but how he
gets leverage over Republicans as well, and so everything's transactional there.
He will do whatever it takes to win an election
and support the candidates he wants to support. And we've
(09:10):
seen that for example with appropriation spills, with deciding how
we're going to fund government. He doesn't bother to put
those on the floor, even though an Appropriations Committee for
the last two years, we get the bills out that
hasn't happened for like five or six years. Well, we've
done it the last two years, and then he doesn't
put it on the floor, So.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Senator, we'll have to leave it there for this morning.
I appreciate the time, and let's stay in touch and
do more and get the more issues. That's Senator deb
Fisher
Welcoming Nebraska US Senator Deb Fisher Back to the program. Senator,
good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Good morning Gary. How are you well?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Appreciate you coming on, and I want to get to
some issues as time allows here, but I want to
start with your campaign for reelection and the challenger, Dan Osborne,
who has obviously some massive money coming in because he's
all over TV and these are pretty high quality ads
(00:29):
in terms of their production value, and I haven't seen
you on as much. Is this a matter of money
available in your campaign or do you think your level
of advertising is okay?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
You know, Gary, Nebraska is a conservative state, and I've
got a really long conservative record, so I know that
with sport Nebraska's We're going to come out of this
on top. But I am taking the race really seriously.
We continue to raise. As you said, there's a lot
of really progressive East Coast money coming in for my opponent,
(01:09):
and I think the more Nebraska's learned about him, the
less they're going to like him. He claims he's an independent,
but he's funded by Democrats through Act Blue and these
super packs. He's got two superpacks. He talks like a Democrat,
and we all know he's going to vote like a Democrat.
So you know, for example, he wants to give illegal
(01:32):
immigrants social Security. He says he loves Bernie Sanders. He's
being bankrolled by the Democrat donors who support Kamala Harris.
And when Nebraskas hear about that, which they will from
the ads we have up and that we're going to
have coming, they're not going to be fooled by him.
(01:52):
They're going to see who he is and and they're
going to see that he's trying to trick the people
in Nebraska into the leaving that he's an independent when
he really doesn't talk about issues at all and where
he stands.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
You believe he would cauc us with the Democrats were
he to be elected.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Oh yes, I mean he's put out statements. He's been
quoted as saying, I think he had an ad up
asking for money, saying that he would be the fifty
first vote, that he would flip the Senate. Well, this
idea that oh I don't know who I'm going to
(02:29):
cauc us with, or I'm not going to cauc us
with anybody, Nebraska's Nebraska's not going to believe that. I mean,
he knows what he's doing. He's playing the independent card
because in Nebraska we are nonpartisan in our legislature and
works there. But in the Senate, if he doesn't cauc
(02:50):
us with anybody, he won't even get a committee assignment.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
One of the big issues that he's bounding and accusing
you of lying. And I've had input here from listeners too,
wanting to know what do you have to say about
the fact that you said you would just do two terms.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know, Gary, I served in the legislature and served
under term limits. It works when it applies to everybody,
and that is something I learned pretty quickly when I
got to the United States Senate that seniority counts. Nebraska
is at a disadvantage when we don't have senators who
(03:29):
are willing to step forward and serve an extra term.
And you can see that. I think in my committee
assignment seniority counts, and Nebraskans have been very supportive of that.
They understand I have good committees, and I heard from
a lot of Nebraskans who want me to run again.
(03:51):
So Bruce and I thought it over and decided that
we would.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
You regret making that pledge.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I think it was in a reaction to the world
maybe as we want it to be. You know, in Nebraska,
I happen to think term limits work, and I've supported
term limits, support legislation for term limits. And to be
able to really make it work, it's got to apply
(04:21):
to everybody. And that's why it works. In Nebraska, it
applies to every single state senator. But in the United
States Senate it doesn't. And in that institution, states that
have senators who are there for more than one or
two terms are able to help their citizens more. They're
(04:44):
able to get legislation moving more. And it you know,
it was a wake up call to me. It was
a lesson to learn, and you learn it pretty quickly
when you get there.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
The US Senator deb Fisher with us on a lem
ten KFB a couple of things dead. If anybody's followed
your career, they know that you are a legislator. You're
a deal maker. You are not an obstructionist. You accept,
as the old Ronald Reagan ratio, seventy five percent of
what I want for twenty five percent of what they want.
You're getting killed on that right now, especially over the
infrastructure bill. In these ads by Dad Osborne, do you
(05:18):
believe that some of this stuff the negative for you
is a reflection of Trump, because five point thirty eight
has you up four points Republicans statewide in Nebraska. Four
points is like deb even are you? Are you victimized
by an anti Trump sentiment among some Nebraska Republicans.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You know, I don't think so. I don't think so.
When we compare the Trump administration and what was accomplished
to what's happening under Biden Harris, I would think most Nebraskans,
if they're being honest, life was better under President Trump.
There was more money in your pocket it I can
(06:01):
tell you for sure. The world was a safer place
for everyone. What we're seeing now with an border that
isn't a border here in this country, with the illegal
migrants entering this country and getting all sorts of free
stuff from this administration. When we look at the cost
of living, and I hear from Nebraskans how they're struggling
(06:24):
when they have gas, groceries, rent, everything going up from
twenty to fifty percent. In fact, Congressman Flood said at
the Nebraska Breakfast yesterday, his insurance home insurance is going up,
cost of homes are going up, and the solution is
not what Kamala Harris is putting forward. The federal government
(06:48):
shouldn't be putting or giving you twenty five thousand dollars
in order to buy a new home. That shouldn't happen.
All that does is increase the cost of a home
by twenty five thousand dollars. And who pays for it?
We just keep printing money. Who pays for it? You know?
This is I think when people really step back and
they're honest and they look at the issues, which I
(07:11):
always try to do to be able to see how
that affects everybody's life. President Trump, we did better. We
did better, Our businesses did better. You know. I traveled
over thirty communities in August and made over a hundred
(07:31):
stops and visiting with Nebraskans and listing with them in
their communities and their businesses and their hospitals and their schools.
And yeah, life right now is just pretty darn tough
for people right.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And I hate to interrupt, but I had to interrupt.
Our time is limited, and I promise i'd get to this.
The House finally said amen to the AM Radio bill.
It's important to a lot of people in our listening audience.
What are its chances in the Senate.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, that's one of those bills. It's up to Chuck
Schumer if he's going to get it done. I mean,
we've got great support for it, and we all realize
how vital AM radio is for the emergency alert system.
It's critical the public safety. We want to make sure
that automakers still put AM radios in their vehicles. That's
(08:25):
how we get our latest local news. It's how we
get our weather developments. And if we have car makers
who are going to drop access to that, we lose
that really vital, vital piece of communication.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Is Schumer opposed to it?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
He doesn't put anything up.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Is he opposed to it? Schumer?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Chuck Schumer's transactional, and he's looking at how he can
get leverage not just within his caucus, but how he
gets leverage over Republicans as well, and so everything's transactional there.
He will do whatever it takes to win an election
and support the candidates he wants to support. And we've
(09:10):
seen that for example with appropriation spills, with deciding how
we're going to fund government. He doesn't bother to put
those on the floor, even though an Appropriations Committee for
the last two years, we get the bills out that
hasn't happened for like five or six years. Well, we've
done it the last two years, and then he doesn't
put it on the floor, So.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Senator, we'll have to leave it there for this morning.
I appreciate the time, and let's stay in touch and
do more and get the more issues. That's Senator deb
Fisher
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