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July 8, 2025 • 15 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Gary Sladlmayer, jm ros Kfab's Morning News. Pleasure to welcome
Brett Lenstrom back to the program. Good meeting, Good morning
After yesterday, you made it official. We talked to you
a week or two ago, you were strongly considering it.
So what happened between that conversation and yesterday.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, we've been in for twenty four hours. We spoke
last week and I wanted to make sure that one
last chance for my wife to say nope, and she
did not say that. So we were in and were
official and excited to get going. You know, a common
sense conservative fighting for working families, protecting retirees, future focused

(00:40):
and strength and strengthening national security. And we've been out
talking about those things here and we'll continue to go
meet the voters.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
So why you and not break her herding? Well, you know,
primaries are great.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
They've strengthened the candidates were able to get out and
in this case, I'll be able to reintroduce myself to
the voters and listen to what they have to say.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
But yeah, we're all going.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
To run on our own agenda. I have had experiences
eight years as a state senator eliminated the income tax
in the state on Social Security for three hundred and
twenty thousand Nebraskans and past sixty plus bills.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
So find a way. Is that to the point now
where it's all gone phased down, right.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
It's all gone yep. So we did military retirement that
is no longer taxed, my bill which is to eliminate
social Security that is no longer you will no longer
be taxed on that. And the income tax cuts which
we'll go to three point nine to nine, will phase
in in twenty seven, twenty twenty seven. So that was
a bill that we passed myself, Senator Lenahan, and that's

(01:49):
still in the works. And then we did some property
tax relief down there as well.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
So it's all about a total of a billion dollars. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Are you if you're Congressman Brettlinstrom last week, are you
cool with the big, beautiful bill, you would have been
a yes.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I would have been a yes.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
There.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
You know you're not gonna like everything in a bill, right,
it's a complex, large bill. But I did like what
they did on the speaking of social Security, there are
provisions in there deductions and it affected a lot of.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Retire Trump wasn't really straight out about that. It didn't
eliminate the tax on Social Security. It would for some people.
Most people will get like a six thousand or a
lot of people get like a six thousand dollars deduction.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Right, correct.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
And that's a big reason taking that experience at the
state level and going to Congress is to make sure
that I accomplish that goal at the federal level ending
that tax. I've done it before, I'll do it again,
and I want to make sure that's permanent for our retirees.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Okay, I'd like to get your view of assuming that
you win the primary, and I'm going to talk with
Brinker later. We'll ask him basically the same thing. Assuming
you win the primary. Here we are in the very
volatile second district. How do you ill with that? How
do you thread that needle? Like Don Bacon did successfully?
I think five times he did.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
And I want to thank Congress Froman Bacon for his service,
not only his military service, but his service to District two.
I represented District eighteen, right, and if you remember back
in twenty eighteen, there was the quote unquote blue weight
wave that went on. I was one of two state
senators to be successful and winning re election, and the

(03:28):
approach is nothing more than, you know, you want to
be respectful of people I view I think people view
me as a pragmatic, thoughtful legislator and I'll continue to
do that in Congress. And again, you're not going to
like everything that we're not all going to be one
hundred percent, but being thoughtful and pragmatic about solutions, listening

(03:51):
to people, that's what I've done and will continue to do.
And you know, if you look back at the governor's
race three years ago, we were successful in winning District
two in the primary by twelve percent.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, about eight thousand votes better than Charles Rubster and
Jim Pillin. And you also won Sarpye County, but just
by a little a shorter margin, a smaller margin. You're
going to get hit with two You know this is
coming bread, You're not new to this. You're going to
get hit with two key votes as a state senator
or non votes. One would be the death penalty. And
you have explained that's on spiritual grass. But let's talk

(04:28):
about voter ID. Where do you stand on it? Because
if I'm correct me, if I'm wrong, you voted, you
didn't vote on that actual final language. You were present
but not voting on that final voter ID language. Is
that correct? I may have that wrong, Please correctly.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Going back to my eight years in the legislature, the
final couple years voter ID resurfaced, I think it had
been brought up most of the time that we were
down there. Sometimes it got out of committee, sometimes it didn't.
At the time in twenty fifteen, I believe when it
came up, we were in a budgetary crisis, and my
rule was to not vote for anything that had a

(05:04):
fiscal note. Voter I D had a fiscal note. And
I stood up on the floor and articulated that when
we several years later, what does that.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Mean you didn't want to spend any extra money?

Speaker 2 (05:16):
We didn't have any money to spend. So like this year,
the voter ID would have cost money. It would have
cost money in the seven figure range to do. And
this is prior to twenty twenty, and so I stood
up on the floor and discussed that. Now, later on
when the bill came to the floor, I did vote
and do support Voter I D. But you know, going

(05:37):
back to those original days, we simply just didn't have
the money to spend on anything.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
You were a budget hawk. Basically that was a big
part of your tenure right as a state senator. That
was a big part of your your guiding principle.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
It was and to do tax reform, you're going to
have to keep spending low. You can't ask the voters
and the taxpayers to continue into shell out money to
the state. And unless we control spending, our our budget
and our deficit at the federal levels continue to grow.
And the only way to rein that in is this

(06:11):
say no.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
So there, of the Democrats that are running, who concerns
you the most?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't think I'm concerned. It's not that I can
control those things. As far as who's running. I can
control my message, and I think my message and the
things that I am going to fight for for the families. Well,
ultimately we'll be successful in this race. We'll see they'll
have a contentious primary. In the years past they have
not usually they've had somebody anointed in a sense to that.

(06:46):
So they'll have their own battle, and whoever comes out
on that, I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
To go Trump positive or negative if he if he
would come in to the district.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
A campaign, you know, I don't know if he'll come
into the district. I guess depends on who to.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Hold the seat. Yeah, well I'm in here to hold
the seat.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
But you know, President Trump, and let's just take this
last bill and the things that he's done in this
second term. He's been very good on national security, peace
through strength. He has focused on putting more money in
the pockets of families and if we can do that
as Republicans, and we're going to need a big, tent

(07:25):
large approach to get everybody on board because this race
will come down, as it always does, to one or
two percent, and we can't have the infighting that we have.
So whoever successful in the message and fighting for families
and talking about those, I believe we'll be able to
win in district.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Too great to see. Thanks for coming in, Thank you,
good luck, touch of course Brett Linstrom Fab's Morning News
Canada for district to Congress. We welcome Bringer Harding back
to the program. Amaha City councilman and candidate now for
second district. The Congress announced here a week ago today,
wasn't it Drinker?

Speaker 4 (08:02):
It was exactly a week ago.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
And now for having me, Yeah, and now the pool
is open and Brett Linstrom has jumped in, which were
pretty much expected. So, uh, what are the what do
you see as the as the back and forth in
the primary, supposing it ends up being just you two,
what are the issues?

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Well, I think there are a number of issues, and
that's that's what the campaign is going to be all about.
We're going to hit Saunders County, We're going to hit
sarp County, We're going to hit Douglas County. Talk to
the voters about the issues, and we're going to earn
their earn their votes.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Right, but specifically between you and and and and Brett Linstrom,
do you see anything any friction points?

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Immediately? Absolutely? And I think I think you heard a
little bit about that just a little bit ago. I
think the voter I D thing is is certainly going
to be an issue.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
I know.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Brett tried to explain it away, but the bottom line is, look,
eighty one percent of the people, if I'm America, believe
in voter ID. He stood on the floor the unicameral
and advocated against against having voter ID. And you know
he explains it maybe to say that it was because
of a cost. Well, if they cost by that, well

(09:16):
I don't buy that for this reason. If it's if
it's a million dollars, which I think is what they
were saying it was at the time. We have an
eleven billion dollar budget in the biennial budget in the
state of Nebraska. One million dollars is point zero zero
nine percent. We need to spend money on things that

(09:39):
secure America. We need to support our police, not defunder police.
We need to Another example is the President's Golden Dome.
We've seen how effective the Golden Dome or similar system
is in protecting Israel. When Iran decides to throw a
bunch of bombs on top of him, we can't. Well,

(10:00):
voter ID is a very important issue, and for Brett
to say that it's not or that it's not worth
point zero zero nine percent of the state's budget to
secure order to have voter ID, that will be an issue.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Now he's going to run you over with a streetcar.
He's going to say, Brinker agreed to this as a
city councilman. To that, you say, to.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
That, I say, when I worked for Hal Dobb and
how was an advocate for the streetcar back in nineteen
ninety seven, I was against it. When I ran for
City Council in twenty seventeen, I was against it. It
was not as much of an issue. In twenty twenty
one that that issue had kind of gotten to the
back burner. But then as it came back up, the

(10:42):
only reason I became a supporter of it was because
in those instances before it would require a tax increase,
and when it was when we came up with a
plan that would not require a voter or would not
require a tax increase, that was something that caught my attention,
something I could get behind. And remember, the streetcar is

(11:05):
not a transportation solution. It is an economic development tool,
and it is spurring four billion dollars of investment along
the line. And with those excess funds, and I think
I don't mean to preempt the mayor Mayor Ewing, but
I think the maryor is going to be talking a
little bit about that later this week. And the excess

(11:25):
funds created by the tax increment financing that's paying for
the street car, those some of those excess funds might
be used for things like affordable housing.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Well we'll see if that happens. As you know, Breaker,
I talked about this for a year and a half.
I am skeptical that there will be four billion dollars
of development downtown because right now, of the one point
eight billion, about half of that is mutual of Omaha's towers.
So I'm skeptical. But let's see how it works. Well,
it's going to happen. We're not not going to have
the streetcar.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
No, let's we are going to have the streetcar. And look,
the other thing the on the streetcar, Jim, is that
we're a city of five hundred thousand people and we
build different amenities and different interests or have to cater
to different interests all across our city. Do you use
every golf course in Omaha?

Speaker 3 (12:14):
They won't let me on.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Well do you? Yeah, you're that I know where you play.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
We're not talking about me.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
My point is this is that we have parks. Not
everyone uses the parks. We have tennis courts, not everyone
uses a ten course. We build different amenities for different
people and different interests and different likes for all five
hundred thousand people. This is something that is going to
grow our city and and that urban core, and it's

(12:44):
vital to have that economic development tool that we're going
to use.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Okay, what else are you going to hit them with
We talked about voter idea. I brought that.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
I don't want to show all my cards today. That's
what the campaign's about. But I think it's it's very
important that you know, we we we start out here
and that's what these that's that is what this campaign
is about. It's about getting out to the voters at Saunders,
getting out to the voters at Douglas and Sarpie to say,
what are the issues and if this is an eighty
one percent issue? And I got to tell you that

(13:13):
I heard you're asking about how are you going to
thread that needle. You've got to remember when I ran
for city council, I had four the last five mayors
endorse me. That included Mayorphah, that included Mike Boyle. I've
had Democrats support me over the years as well as
you know my base of the Republicans. I just got
elected to the vice president of the Omaha City Council.

(13:37):
We have three Republicans on the city Council and four Democrats.
I appealed to at least one of those Democrats that said, Okay, Brinker,
we believe in you, we know you would be a
good leader. Have a good leadership role in the city council.
So I think that demonstrates got that one to endorse you.
That would be awesome.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
You can get one of those from the Democrat city
council people to indorse. Now you got something.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
We're working on. I do have a funny story about that.
I won't say who, but there is a Democrat who
has endorsed uh mister cabin on the Democrat primary. I
called this person, I said, would you consider I understand
you you're supporting John in the primary. Would you consider

(14:22):
supporting me in the general? And he said, Brinker, I
will think about that. That's that's real progress. You know what.
It also goes to show you, yeah, that I'm not
afraid to reach.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Across the aisle. You're going to need Democrats.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
You're going to absolutely have him go up and down
those blue dot avenues here and Grand It'll be beautiful.
Granola Birkin stock wear wirem Glass Cross was.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Just giving me a little grief about my shoes.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
I don't think they are. It's running shoes on. If
I had my camera, i'd post something he's running. Yeah
he is.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Hey, Franker, good to see again.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Gentlemen, I appreciate that we can do this every week
if you want to week, but we will be in
touch a lot
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