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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wonderful of welcome Nebraska second District Congressman Don Bacon back
to the program.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Don, good morning, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I wanted to get the I want to get to
the We had several questions about the big beautiful bill
and how it may impact healthcare outside of Medicaid. But
and we will in a second. I want to ask
you about this legislation that and this has become a
big topic now protecting United States farmland from foreign ownership.
(00:29):
Where what's the status of that?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Well, I haven't the Farm Bill, but it hasn't passed yet.
And what it does is it mandates of the federal
government to track how much fireland China is buying, where's
it bought at? And the goal was to ultimately forbid
farmland being bought by China, particularly around US military basis.
But we don't know the scope of the problem. So
(00:52):
my bill passed the governments. Okay, what is the What
is the scope of this problem? There's a lot of rumors,
so we just I just want to the bottom of it.
Is how much China own where is it at?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Is it only China or other adversaries too?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It was focused on China, Okay, And it's you know
when you got some by farmlent, say by offit air
Force base and it it's China. There's it's not a coincidence, right, right,
And so we want to know the scope of the problem.
And a lot of this is about intelligence collecting, and
I think it's an antial security concern and we should
(01:28):
know what the problem.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Is, right Congressman Don Bacon with US. I had a
couple of listeners emailing and asking yesterday about the Big
Beautiful bills impact on healthcare. Congressman Bacon, outside of the
medicaid piece, my assumption was that Medicaid was the only
part affected, but it may there are some pieces of it.
(01:50):
The touch Obamacare, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
There's this thing called the premium tax credit. If you
earn under Obama Cure, if you earn under four hundred
percent of the poverty level, so four hudred percent or less,
whatever you paid in premiums, you could get a tax
credit back. Under Joe Biden, he waived that, and you
(02:13):
could earn over four hundred percent and still claim the
tax credit. And once you got on it, you didn't
have to prove that you that your income levels increased significantly.
You just keep the tax credit, which isn't fair to
other people who are not getting that tax credit, and
so we went back to the original language to do
a bilocker of legislation that if you earn four hundred
(02:37):
percent or less, you get the tax credit, and once
you qualify, every year you have to reverify that you've
not earned higher levels of income that put you outside
of that. It seems it seems fair to me. You know,
this is intended for people who are not earning a
lot of money, this tax credit, and it has been
abused under the Biden administration, so people earning way over
(03:00):
the poverty level are still getting it.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I guess the message there is for those who are
on the exchange is to pay close attention to what
those deadlines are and what you need to do to
verify your income because a lot of the complaints about
this from the left is that, well that people don't
know how to do that. Well, people need to learn
how to do it.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I mean, but I don't medicaid itself. There's like two
point six million people who are not eligible beyond Medicaid
and are on it, and it's not fair. This is
intended for people who are living in poverty to get assistance.
And you know, some people on the left say, well,
(03:41):
we wanted to get it anyway. They want free healthcare
for everybody. That's not sort of their philosophy. But Medicaid
was an intendant for that. It was intended for children,
disabled adults, and those that are under the you know,
fall on the snafety net is they're not earning any
enough money, and we should have provisions through the help
(04:01):
for once you're earning over a certain level by law,
you know, you got to take that, take that responsibility on.
And there's still other ways to get help. Committee health
centers will charge people based on their level of income.
And now there's there's various measures we have out there
to help people get the health care they need.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
What about premiums for folks on Obamacare on the exchange,
will they be changed under this bill?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Well, if you get less tax credits because you earn
over the poverty level, uh, you know, then you'll be
paying more because you'll lose that tax credit. Right, I
think that's the mean. That's probably the mean with what
they're referring to there. I'm not aware that premiums will
go up just by virtue. Other than that.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Okay, Rosie was mentioning earlier before you came on down.
We're very curious about your view of the second District
GOP primary rais replace you so far Brinker Harding and
Brett Lenstrom? Are you going to endorse?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I wasn't playing in a Dorsey. You know, I know both,
and I consider both my friends, and I've worked with
Breaker from day one, and I've got to know. I've
got to know you know Senator Lenstrom since I got elected.
And I think they're both running when I would consider
a smart campaign. They're focused, They're not going to the
right and excluding the voters they got to have to
(05:26):
win in the general. So I think they're they're keeping
in mind you got to win swing voters in this
district to win. Republicans are thirty eight percent of the vote.
You don't win with thirty eight percent. You got to
win a swing and independent voters. Now, I would say
that Democrats there's five of them in right now, I believe,
and this is a race to the left. Are they
(05:47):
and this is going to help out? Are the Republicans
in the general. You got consider Kavanaugh, one of the
three most liberal senators in the unicamer and you got
Powell and he got a few others in there that
are it's they're going to run and who's the most
liberal left candidate, it seems to me, which is going
(06:09):
to help out the Republicans in the general.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Are you surprised that Dan Osborne didn't run for this
seat as an independent?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, I don't believe the Democrats would ever seed try
to put a Democrat, you know, as a nominee, and
he couldn't win if there was a Democrat on the
ticket as well. So I think that's just the reality.
He had to either run as a Democrat to have
a chance to win, and I don't think he wanted
to do that. He wanted to maintain a quota's independent
you know status, and the Democrats are they're always going
(06:42):
to run someone in the seat. I mean, it's pretty
much a fifty to fifty seat and they got a
shot at it. But I think and yet ols Work
could ever win if you've got a Democrat also running.
So his calculation was that they'll run Mickey Mouse as
a Democrat against Pete Riggins. Yeah, like last time with
Doug Fisher, they didn't even nominate it democrat, right, so
he was able to get all the Democrat votes and
(07:03):
he was able to try to appeal to some of
the independent voters out there. But I think if you
look at his rucker, I mean, he's talked about packing
the Supreme Court, he wanted no restrictions at all on abortion.
Some of these, to me, these are pretty liberal policy
positions they have. And I just think of I think
(07:23):
people are on where he's at positions, and I think
sna Rickets will have probably an easier time of it.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Okay, now you've got they've got a run here, Doma.
You've got a talent a teletown hall com on Monday
evening and the people need to sign up. Can you
just call in? And how does that work?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
We're gonna call it. We're gonna do a master robo call,
or people could call in onto it. Last time we
had seventeen thousand people on and folks, you know, some
of the left wing groups like Indivisible, move move on,
dot org, you know, want talent in person town hall,
so create a little bit of chaos. But you know,
three or four people and a public town hall. Here
(08:03):
we had seventeen thousand and we covered a lot of topics,
and I didn't avoid one hard question, and so we'll
ask all, we'll put all the hard questions on there,
and I'm good with that. I think that's why it
should be.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Congressman Don Beak, and always good to have you on. Don.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Thanks, thank you,
Wonderful of welcome Nebraska second District Congressman Don Bacon back
to the program.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Don, good morning, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I wanted to get the I want to get to
the We had several questions about the big beautiful bill
and how it may impact healthcare outside of Medicaid. But
and we will in a second. I want to ask
you about this legislation that and this has become a
big topic now protecting United States farmland from foreign ownership.
(00:29):
Where what's the status of that?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Well, I haven't the Farm Bill, but it hasn't passed yet.
And what it does is it mandates of the federal
government to track how much fireland China is buying, where's
it bought at? And the goal was to ultimately forbid
farmland being bought by China, particularly around US military basis.
But we don't know the scope of the problem. So
(00:52):
my bill passed the governments. Okay, what is the What
is the scope of this problem? There's a lot of rumors,
so we just I just want to the bottom of it.
Is how much China own where is it at?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Is it only China or other adversaries too?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It was focused on China, Okay, And it's you know
when you got some by farmlent, say by offit air
Force base and it it's China. There's it's not a coincidence, right, right,
And so we want to know the scope of the problem.
And a lot of this is about intelligence collecting, and
I think it's an antial security concern and we should
(01:28):
know what the problem.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Is, right Congressman Don Bacon with US. I had a
couple of listeners emailing and asking yesterday about the Big
Beautiful bills impact on healthcare. Congressman Bacon, outside of the
medicaid piece, my assumption was that Medicaid was the only
part affected, but it may there are some pieces of it.
(01:50):
The touch Obamacare, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
There's this thing called the premium tax credit. If you
earn under Obama Cure, if you earn under four hundred
percent of the poverty level, so four hudred percent or less,
whatever you paid in premiums, you could get a tax
credit back. Under Joe Biden, he waived that, and you
(02:13):
could earn over four hundred percent and still claim the
tax credit. And once you got on it, you didn't
have to prove that you that your income levels increased significantly.
You just keep the tax credit, which isn't fair to
other people who are not getting that tax credit, and
so we went back to the original language to do
a bilocker of legislation that if you earn four hundred
(02:37):
percent or less, you get the tax credit, and once
you qualify, every year you have to reverify that you've
not earned higher levels of income that put you outside
of that. It seems it seems fair to me. You know,
this is intended for people who are not earning a
lot of money, this tax credit, and it has been
abused under the Biden administration, so people earning way over
(03:00):
the poverty level are still getting it.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I guess the message there is for those who are
on the exchange is to pay close attention to what
those deadlines are and what you need to do to
verify your income because a lot of the complaints about
this from the left is that, well that people don't
know how to do that. Well, people need to learn
how to do it.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I mean, but I don't medicaid itself. There's like two
point six million people who are not eligible beyond Medicaid
and are on it, and it's not fair. This is
intended for people who are living in poverty to get assistance.
And you know, some people on the left say, well,
(03:41):
we wanted to get it anyway. They want free healthcare
for everybody. That's not sort of their philosophy. But Medicaid
was an intendant for that. It was intended for children,
disabled adults, and those that are under the you know,
fall on the snafety net is they're not earning any
enough money, and we should have provisions through the help
(04:01):
for once you're earning over a certain level by law,
you know, you got to take that, take that responsibility on.
And there's still other ways to get help. Committee health
centers will charge people based on their level of income.
And now there's there's various measures we have out there
to help people get the health care they need.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
What about premiums for folks on Obamacare on the exchange,
will they be changed under this bill?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Well, if you get less tax credits because you earn
over the poverty level, uh, you know, then you'll be
paying more because you'll lose that tax credit. Right, I
think that's the mean. That's probably the mean with what
they're referring to there. I'm not aware that premiums will
go up just by virtue. Other than that.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Okay, Rosie was mentioning earlier before you came on down.
We're very curious about your view of the second District
GOP primary rais replace you so far Brinker Harding and
Brett Lenstrom? Are you going to endorse?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I wasn't playing in a Dorsey. You know, I know both,
and I consider both my friends, and I've worked with
Breaker from day one, and I've got to know. I've
got to know you know Senator Lenstrom since I got elected.
And I think they're both running when I would consider
a smart campaign. They're focused, They're not going to the
right and excluding the voters they got to have to
(05:26):
win in the general. So I think they're they're keeping
in mind you got to win swing voters in this
district to win. Republicans are thirty eight percent of the vote.
You don't win with thirty eight percent. You got to
win a swing and independent voters. Now, I would say
that Democrats there's five of them in right now, I believe,
and this is a race to the left. Are they
(05:47):
and this is going to help out? Are the Republicans
in the general. You got consider Kavanaugh, one of the
three most liberal senators in the unicamer and you got
Powell and he got a few others in there that
are it's they're going to run and who's the most
liberal left candidate, it seems to me, which is going
(06:09):
to help out the Republicans in the general.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Are you surprised that Dan Osborne didn't run for this
seat as an independent?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, I don't believe the Democrats would ever seed try
to put a Democrat, you know, as a nominee, and
he couldn't win if there was a Democrat on the
ticket as well. So I think that's just the reality.
He had to either run as a Democrat to have
a chance to win, and I don't think he wanted
to do that. He wanted to maintain a quota's independent
you know status, and the Democrats are they're always going
(06:42):
to run someone in the seat. I mean, it's pretty
much a fifty to fifty seat and they got a
shot at it. But I think and yet ols Work
could ever win if you've got a Democrat also running.
So his calculation was that they'll run Mickey Mouse as
a Democrat against Pete Riggins. Yeah, like last time with
Doug Fisher, they didn't even nominate it democrat, right, so
he was able to get all the Democrat votes and
(07:03):
he was able to try to appeal to some of
the independent voters out there. But I think if you
look at his rucker, I mean, he's talked about packing
the Supreme Court, he wanted no restrictions at all on abortion.
Some of these, to me, these are pretty liberal policy
positions they have. And I just think of I think
(07:23):
people are on where he's at positions, and I think
sna Rickets will have probably an easier time of it.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Okay, now you've got they've got a run here, Doma.
You've got a talent a teletown hall com on Monday
evening and the people need to sign up. Can you
just call in? And how does that work?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
We're gonna call it. We're gonna do a master robo call,
or people could call in onto it. Last time we
had seventeen thousand people on and folks, you know, some
of the left wing groups like Indivisible, move move on,
dot org, you know, want talent in person town hall,
so create a little bit of chaos. But you know,
three or four people and a public town hall. Here
(08:03):
we had seventeen thousand and we covered a lot of topics,
and I didn't avoid one hard question, and so we'll
ask all, we'll put all the hard questions on there,
and I'm good with that. I think that's why it
should be.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Congressman Don Beak, and always good to have you on. Don.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Thanks, thank you,
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